Henry Allingham, the world's oldest man and one of the last surviving World War I servicemen, has died at the age of 113, his care home has said.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.18.09 - 10:50 am | #
If I remember correctly from a few years ago the buses were free in downtown Seattle during the workday; I know they were on Saturdays.
Karatist Preacher |
07.18.09 - 10:50 am | #
In Phoenix they run every 10 minutes during peak hours and 20 minutes at other times, though at this point they are still figuring out the timing and the GPS system which is used to tell waiting riders when the next train is scheduled to arrive, is not yet working so you arrive at the platform but you have no idea how soon the next train is really coming.
r€nato |
07.18.09 - 10:50 am | #
...at this point they are still figuring out the timing and the GPS system which is used to tell waiting riders when the next train is scheduled to arrive, is not yet working so you arrive at the platform but you have no idea how soon the next train is really coming.
We've got that for our LRT system. And, next year, a couple of bus lines are gonna upgrade to that. It's pretty slick.
AndyG |
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07.18.09 - 10:53 am | #
racy,
How you feeling?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.18.09 - 10:53 am | #
Morning, good.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
07.18.09 - 10:53 am | #
so you arrive at the platform but you have no idea how soon the next train is really coming.
r€nato
How very 20th century.
Adam Hominem |
07.18.09 - 10:53 am | #
...the GPS system which is used to tell waiting riders when the next train is scheduled to arrive, is not yet working so you arrive at the platform but you have no idea how soon the next train is really coming.
but the religious theory that good is stronger and will always prevail is total bullshit.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 07.18.09 - 10:53 am | #
It's not bullshit, it's wishful thinking.
rootless-e, ahora con picante |
07.18.09 - 10:54 am | #
We've got that for our LRT system. And, next year, a couple of bus lines are gonna upgrade to that. It's pretty slick.
AndyG
Finally I'll have proof for Hominem's Theorem: at least one bus will pass by going the other way while you are waiting for yours.
My little train-lover is here. Talk to you lovely liberals later.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.18.09 - 10:54 am | #
racy,
How you feeling?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Well...
I am looking forward to mornings where the first thing I do is something other than plan my pain management strategy for the rest of the day.
Other than that, I have a nice cuppajoe, not feeling too bad.
racymind |
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07.18.09 - 10:56 am | #
"Real-time" scheduling w/ GPS really comes in handy...especially during the winter when there are many weather delays.
AndyG |
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07.18.09 - 10:56 am | #
Sometimes a weinermobile is just a weinermobile.
Jeffraham, public option | Homepage | 07.18.09 - 10:54 am | #
no doubt.
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Madison — Wisconsin will purchase two trains from a Spanish manufacturer that plans to establish assembly and maintenance facilities in the state, Gov. Jim Doyle announced Friday morning.
Talgo is expected to create about 80 manufacturing and maintenance jobs in Wisconsin. The company could add more jobs if other states buy its trains, Doyle said.
Locations of the assembly and maintenance facilities haven't been chosen yet, but a statement from Doyle said they're likely to be located in south-central or southeastern Wisconsin. Antonio Perez, chief executive officer and president of Talgo Inc., the company's U.S. subsidiary, said it has scouted locations in Milwaukee and Janesville. Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett said he would push hard to win the plant.
The two 14-car Talgo train sets, which will cost the state $47 million, will replace cars now used on Amtrak's Milwaukee-to-Chicago Hiawatha Service. They will boost the capacity of each Hiawatha train from 350 to 420 passengers. Hiawatha ridership jumped 24% last year, to 766,167.
If Wisconsin wins federal stimulus funding to begin 110-mph passenger rail service between Madison and Milwaukee, it has the option to purchase two more trains from the company.
GuyInMilwaukee |
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07.18.09 - 10:57 am | #
...and curse the Chinese for inventing gunpowder!
AndyG |
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07.18.09 - 10:58 am | #
Clearly Atrios was deprived of choo-choo sets when he was a kid.
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07.18.09 - 10:58 am | #
. . . and another thing (missed the discussion last thread) I have never seen this country so polarized and dumbstruck as at this time.
I was of age during the sixties and this is much, much worse. There is a cadre of people who live to hate and another cadre of people dedicated to feeding that hatred by any means possible.
Those who are even sort of wise (McCain) recognize this for what it is: a Hitler-Germany-type of mindset, but this has not discouraged either the haters or those who feed the hate.
Everything - even innocuous things - are now politicized to the point of absurdity. (Obama is not a natural born citizen, he wants to take your guns, health care is BAD, and on and on.)
I have little faith that this country will prosper and an intense worry that this will end in violence.
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07.18.09 - 10:59 am | #
Is that a weinermobile in your garage or is your house just happy to see me?
Glad you are feeling better: the pain management thing is a bitch though. (Sometimes it just does not go away - ever - not even for an instant)
DWD-Sordid |
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07.18.09 - 11:01 am | #
I see city names these days,like Seattle in the post, and the first thing I wanna do is check the weather. I am so tired of the heat already... and the dog days used to be one of my favorite times of the year.
I think I want a cool night/morning more than anything. I need to get out and walk, but it is so icky hot and humid. Grrrrr...
racymind |
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07.18.09 - 11:01 am | #
yeah no one with sense should go to washington state or nevada for any reason.
Matchbook School |
07.18.09 - 11:01 am | #
Everything - even innocuous things - are now politicized to the point of absurdity. (Obama is not a natural born citizen, he wants to take your guns, health care is BAD, and on and on.)
DWD do you remember the hard-hats beating up hippies? It's the same people, 40 years on. So in a sense at least, I must disagree. It's just Nixon's constituency, the Silent Majority, who have never ever shut up, not even once.
I have little faith that this country will prosper and an intense worry that this will end in violence.
DWD-Sordid
You may be right. Certainly, they are violent people.
Adam Hominem |
07.18.09 - 11:02 am | #
Beat ya, Guy in Milwaukee, linked to the "Wiener Zu Hause" last thread.
plantsman, mad google skillz |
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07.18.09 - 11:02 am | #
I was of age during the sixties and this is much, much worse. There is a cadre of people who live to hate and another cadre of people dedicated to feeding that hatred by any means possible.
I remember the Archie Bunkers spitting on long hair veterans. The police riot in Chicago in 1968. The desperation of the Weathermen. The war on the panthers. The murder of Fred Hampton. Cointelpro.
Go look at some clips of the mob at Little Rock when it was being integrated or in Boston during busing.
rootless-e, ahora con picante |
07.18.09 - 11:02 am | #
Jeffraham, public option |
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07.18.09 - 11:03 am | #
b b m l
Jeffraham, public option |
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07.18.09 - 11:03 am | #
I think I want a cool night/morning more than anything. I need to get out and walk, but it is so icky hot and humid. Grrrrr...
racymind
You could come here--it's fall-like in Minneapolis right now. About 60 deg F.
Adam Hominem |
07.18.09 - 11:03 am | #
In 30 years, trains and subways in the US won't be as good as they are in Taiwan (and probably a lot of the rest of the developed world) Right. Now.
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Tralfaz |
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07.18.09 - 11:03 am | #
One of my heroes, Paul Ehrlich, has been yelling about overpopulation for decades. It is at the root of most of our problems, too many of us.
We had the choice to limit that number or to see those numbers adjusted in less gentle ways.
noblejoanie | Homepage | 07.18.09 - 10:44 am | #
Had this discussion with my friend last night. She's from a family of 7 and doesn't see problems with parents having 4 or more children. In theory this is all fine, if mommy and daddy can support the children. But when every set of parents has many children, and they all want to live a 'first world' lifestyle, then it becomes a bit problematic.
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07.18.09 - 11:03 am | #
A video tape of "Joe" to Adam Hominem, fellow optimist.
rootless-e, ahora con picante |
07.18.09 - 11:04 am | #
Glad you are feeling better: the pain management thing is a bitch though. (Sometimes it just does not go away - ever - not even for an instant)
DWD-Sordid
Yeah, compared to what some others go through, my pain worries are small. I may plan a day around pain management, others have to plan their lives around it. I will get better, but I am a little impatient about the pace of my healing. so it goes.
racymind |
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07.18.09 - 11:04 am | #
(It took until the late 80s for Phoenix to finally complete the last piece of I-10...)
r€nato | 07.18.09 - 10:46 am | #
syracuse will never, ever, ever, ever finish i481. by state law, i think.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.18.09 - 11:04 am | #
Here is some good blog coverage with pics of the new light rail in Seattle:
That's the story of my life plantsman.
Day late. Dollar short.
GuyInMilwaukee |
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07.18.09 - 11:05 am | #
BUT these were not in every town and every church: this is different. Yes, I remember the haters but there was only a limited network for them to be fed their hate: Carl McIntyre - Joe Pyne - et al.
Now you have mainstream churches, essentially, preaching that killing an abortion doctor is nothing more than they deserved. (And that is not even to contemplate the mind-set of those who see NOTHING amiss with our economic system that a few more tax cuts to the rich will not improve.)
No. I have thought of this for a long time and this is much different: much more main-stream and socially acceptable to be a sociopath now.
DWD-Sordid |
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07.18.09 - 11:05 am | #
Racy, glad to see you here; I'm not sure of your age but know for myself that healing takes much longer than it used to.
plantsman, mad google skillz |
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07.18.09 - 11:05 am | #
And yet, they won't let me on board. Unless I wear one of those stupid vest thingies.
Arthur J. GWPDA, Appts Secy |
07.18.09 - 11:06 am | #
DWD,
Great bit from Frank Rich this weekend, about the Palinistas:
...she [Palin] stands for a genuine movement: a dwindling white nonurban America that is aflame with grievances and awash in self-pity as the country hurtles into the 21st century and leaves it behind.
Aflame in grievances and awash in self-pity. That says it all.
Adam Hominem |
07.18.09 - 11:06 am | #
You could come here--it's fall-like in Minneapolis right now. About 60 deg F.
Adam Hominem |
Heh... I checked the weather in about 10 cities this morning, Minneapolis was one of them. Seattle weather was particularly appealing, some highs in the 80's, nice and cool at night.
racymind |
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07.18.09 - 11:06 am | #
And yet, they won't let me on board. Unless I wear one of those stupid vest thingies.
Arthur J. GWPDA, Appts Secy | 07.18.09 - 11:06 am | #
same here, but with pants.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.18.09 - 11:07 am | #
Tralfaz, you may well be right, but Taiwan has dog fashion shows; HuffPo had a slideshow of one last week.
plantsman, mad google skillz |
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07.18.09 - 11:07 am | #
Back in the 60s there was plenty of stupid but the difference was it was not okay to be stupid. Now our society /MSM celebrate it.
noblejoanie |
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07.18.09 - 11:07 am | #
You could come here--it's fall-like in Minneapolis right now. About 60 deg F.
I love October in Minnesota. This is perfect fence-putting-up weather.
AndyG |
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Buckeye, what happened in Dayton is that a way of life passed. Boys graduated from HS and worked at GM, or some variation hereof. Girls worked at NCR or Reynolds & Reynolds til they married a GM man and had babies.
It's all gone now, so they hide in the megachurches, blame anybody they can, and pray for better times. If they can find work, it's in the medical field, where they treat the pain of the lost lifestyles.
I know 'cuz it's what happened to one whole side of my family. It's an incredibly sad thing to see.
stuckinlodi | 07.18.09 - 10:56 am
But a lot of the fundies in the Dayton area have good jobs, live in the burbs, etc. The loss of the way Dayton was is part of it, but not all of it. Interestingly, a lot of our nurses are rural raised/living and are fundies. Odd, that. On the job, you must adhere to science, off the job you deny it.
Buckeye ... |
07.18.09 - 11:07 am | #
Adam Hominem,
I think what really bothers me is that, in the end, the law stopped people from their vicious behavior.
I am not so sure it will anymore. Ya know?
DWD-Sordid |
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07.18.09 - 11:07 am | #
A video tape of "Joe" to Adam Hominem, fellow optimist.
rootless-e, ahora con picante
Yeah, that was one depressing movie.
Maybe DWD needs it more than me.
Adam Hominem |
07.18.09 - 11:08 am | #
no seattle sux pretty bad but you like it
Matchbook School |
07.18.09 - 11:08 am | #
although in pheonix, i'm sure arthur j wears a vest AND pants.
Could this be Roadmasters home?
Shared Humanity |
07.18.09 - 11:11 am | #
Are any liberal bloggers safe?
Shared Humanity |
07.18.09 - 11:12 am | #
We've got that for our LRT system. And, next year, a couple of bus lines are gonna upgrade to that. It's pretty slick.
AndyG
Finally I'll have proof for Hominem's Theorem: at least one bus will pass by going the other way while you are waiting for yours.
Huzzah!
Adam Hominem | 07.18.09 - 10:54 am | #
Buckeye's Theory: The bus you are waiting for is running late, and you have to make a transfer downtown. If you cross the street to get another bus, the bus you were originally waiting for will come by and the bus you are now waiting for will be late.
And no, Dayton doesn't have those fancy GPS tracking systems so the actual passengers out waiting for the bus know what the bus status is.
Buckeye ... |
07.18.09 - 11:12 am | #
'Joe' was a good film with a very young Susan Sarandon.
Karatist Preacher |
07.18.09 - 11:12 am | #
When one gets up at 5:30, 11:07 FEELS like lunch-time.
Dayton has busses?
Shared Humanity |
07.18.09 - 11:14 am | #
Addendum: I posted this paragraph last night: it might be worth reading (Charles Kuralt)
Openly opposed to the fast paced, minimal information format of many news broadcasts, through the years Kuralt has chastised television executives for "hiring hair instead of brains." Quoted in TV Guide on 2 April 1994, Kuralt said, "I am ashamed that so many [anchorpersons] haven't any basis on which to make a news judgment, can't edit, can't write, and can't cover a story."
DWD-Sordid |
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07.18.09 - 11:15 am | #
Got a kick out of this in the "comments" section of a story on Sotomayor at SFGate:
the minorities are becoming the majority in this country. it's a bitter pill for white republicans to swallow. they better hope that the new majority doesn't treat the new minority the same way the old majority has treated the old minority.
syracuse will never, ever, ever, ever finish i481. by state law, i think.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Same with Houston and I-610, I-45, I-10, I-69. They finish one round of redesign, it's time to rip it up and start a new one...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person |
07.18.09 - 11:16 am | #
"Thirteen year after voters approved the taxes to build it"
Openly opposed to the fast paced, minimal information format of many news broadcasts, through the years Kuralt has chastised television executives for "hiring hair instead of brains." Quoted in TV Guide on 2 April 1994, Kuralt said, "I am ashamed that so many [anchorpersons] haven't any basis on which to make a news judgment, can't edit, can't write, and can't cover a story."
DWD-Sordid
He's got a point, but it's worth remembering that his entire career AFAIR was composed of feel-good pieces, with precious little content.
Not to mention his secret family...
Adam Hominem |
07.18.09 - 11:17 am | #
Interestingly, a lot of our nurses are rural raised/living and are fundies. Odd, that. On the job, you must adhere to science, off the job you deny it.
With the exception of any Jehovah's Witnesses, none of the science the nurses are using on the job is denied in their churches. Whether the earth is 6K or 6 billion years old, the prescriptions and the scanners all still work.
Anonymous |
07.18.09 - 11:17 am | #
when I went to the market this morning I had to wait while a freight train went through.
Little town is divided by rails, 35 trains a day pass through. Coal trains and container trains, usually a mile or so long.
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.18.09 - 11:17 am | #
I've gotta go get 250 lbs. of post cement. Later.
No matter what they say, you're not dumb as a post.
Just a little hard headed.
Shared Humanity |
07.18.09 - 11:18 am | #
What else does Dayton have the we're not aware of. And when did they get it?
Shared Humanity | 07.18.09 - 11:16 am | #
The air show this weekend. Though with the low clouds, no one is going to see anything today.
And whatever we have left is probably going to move Atlanta.
Openly opposed to the fast paced, minimal information format of many news broadcasts, through the years Kuralt has chastised television executives for "hiring hair instead of brains." Quoted in TV Guide on 2 April 1994, Kuralt said, "I am ashamed that so many [anchorpersons] haven't any basis on which to make a news judgment, can't edit, can't write, and can't cover a story."
DWD-Sordid
reminds me of the jon stewart line:
as rare as a brunette on fox news.
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07.18.09 - 11:18 am | #
.they better hope that the new majority doesn't treat the new minority the same way the old majority has treated the old minority.
Luckily for them, rather than a new majority, what we have is a white plurality. The other groups, although they may constitute more than half of America, will likelycontinue to be played against one another by the media-empowered white establishment for some time to come.
slartibartfast |
07.18.09 - 11:19 am | #
"I am ashamed that so many [anchorpersons] haven't any basis on which to make a news judgment, can't edit, can't write, and can't cover a story."
DWD-Sordid
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person |
07.18.09 - 11:19 am | #
reminds me of the jon stewart line:
as rare as a brunette on fox news.
peterboy
"So weren't some locals complaining here the other day that this new light rail set-up takes 10-15 minutes longer to traverse the same route as the bus it's replacing?"
That's not really the point of light rail.
Also, it takes about the same amount of time for the train and the express route (194). It might also depend on the time of day, as the latter uses the highway for part of the trip.
I believe the train also has longer and more frequent service.
No baggage space on the 194 or 174, either.
fred |
07.18.09 - 11:19 am | #
"I am ashamed that so many [anchorpersons] haven't any basis on which to make a news judgment, can't edit, can't write, and can't cover a story."
DWD-Sordid .
Kuralt was one of those who took the whole idea of "TV News" seriously. Silly man...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person |
07.18.09 - 11:20 am | #
Luckily for them, rather than a new majority, what we have is a white plurality. The other groups, although they may constitute more than half of America, will likelycontinue to be played against one another by the media-empowered white establishment for some time to come.
slartibartfast
Lani Guinier made an entire career of studying just this point.
Adam Hominem |
07.18.09 - 11:20 am | #
I've gotta go get 250 lbs. of post cement. Later.
should get pre-cement, it's easier to work.
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.18.09 - 11:20 am | #
Interestingly, a lot of our nurses are rural raised/living and are fundies. Odd, that. On the job, you must adhere to science, off the job you deny it.
With the exception of any Jehovah's Witnesses, none of the science the nurses are using on the job is denied in their churches. Whether the earth is 6K or 6 billion years old, the prescriptions and the scanners all still work.
Anonymous | 07.18.09 - 11:17 am | #
Oh, this is quite true. But were are 'evidence-based'. But this applies only to medicine, not other sciences. So people like my boss can believe in Creationism and shit like that. And not find it odd at all.
Buckeye ... |
07.18.09 - 11:20 am | #
I didn't believe that anyone, anymore, believe the earth was only 6K years old.
And then I met someone who did. It's like believing the earth is flat, y'know?
Adam Hominem |
07.18.09 - 11:22 am | #
you can find this letter to Rep. Rangel on the cbo.gov.
It is the buried lead on the true cost of health care reform over 10 years. It came out yesterday.
it adds to the deficit, but only a tiny amount over 10 years. I have no idea why it was buried in a release late on Friday or why it isnt getting covered now. I learned about it at the orange satan.
Honorable Charles B. Rangel
Page 3
By the end of the 10-year period, in 2019, the coverage provisions would add
$202 billion to the federal deficit, CBO and JCT estimate. That increase would be
partially offset by net cost savings of $50 billion and additional revenues of
$86 billion, resulting in a net increase in the deficit of an estimated $65 billion.
$65 billion over 10 years is pretty small.
peterboy |
07.18.09 - 11:22 am | #
And then I met someone who did. It's like believing the earth is flat, y'know?
Adam Hominem
For the most part, reality has a very tenuous relatiionship with what people believe.
slartibartfast |
07.18.09 - 11:23 am | #
It's all about relationships. We weant to be your news friend. [/Chatterbunnies
bo, needs coffee |
07.18.09 - 11:24 am | #
we want.
bo, needs coffee |
07.18.09 - 11:24 am | #
Kuralt was one of those who took the whole idea of "TV News" seriously. Silly man...
Meanie-meanie, tickle a person
I don't know what that statement is based on, other than Kuralt's self-serving words, of course.
Like I said, all I remember from him, during a time when he could have been doing some good, were anecdotes about the goodness in people blown up to entire stories.
Also, unlike actual news, Kuralt always seemed to have been given plenty of time in the broadcast for his pieces. Funny, that.
Adam Hominem |
07.18.09 - 11:24 am | #
thanks, adam h.
peterboy |
07.18.09 - 11:25 am | #
...Which is to say that it is tribalism that for the most part dictates what people's world view is. That was no doubt quite an adaptive social strategy in the bad old days of the Pleistocene, but nowadays it is distinctly problematic.
slartibartfast |
07.18.09 - 11:25 am | #
6.5 billion annually on a trillion dollar budget deficit.
...Which is to say that it is tribalism that for the most part dictates what people's world view is. That was no doubt quite an adaptive social strategy in the bad old days of the Pleistocene, but nowadays it is distinctly problematic.
slartibartfast
Yes! I think the tribal nature of man is highly underrated (at our peril), and seems to be very much a part of our DNA.
Adam Hominem |
07.18.09 - 11:26 am | #
I didn't believe that anyone, anymore, believe the earth was only 6K years old.
And then I met someone who did. It's like believing the earth is flat, y'know?
Adam Hominem | 07.18.09 - 11:22 am | #
My boss was having a conversation with one of the docs, and somehow she mentioned the 6000 years old bit.
A bit later he saw me in the hallway and told me he had no idea she was a fundy. he was quite shocked.
Buckeye ... |
07.18.09 - 11:27 am | #
Once carpooled for 2 years to work with a Northwestern trained engineer. Commute was about 40 minutes so we had a lot of time to talk. He and his wife were volunteering to help former gangbangers, part of their Christian Ministry. He was a really good person.
He shared with me that he believed everything in the Bible was literally true.
I asked him how he was able to reconcile this with all of the scientific evidence to the contrary. He admitted some difficulty with this.
Shared Humanity |
07.18.09 - 11:27 am | #
6.5 billion annually on a trillion dollar budget deficit.
Cheap
noblejoanie
Every camel's back has a straw, doesn't it?
Adam Hominem |
07.18.09 - 11:27 am | #
I didn't care for Charles Kuralt.
Don't know why; just didn't.
Terry C - Castrating B*tch- |
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07.18.09 - 11:28 am | #
"he believed everything in the Bible was literally true."
People can be so fucking stupid...
fred |
07.18.09 - 11:28 am | #
A bit later he saw me in the hallway and told me he had no idea she was a fundy. he was quite shocked.
Buckeye ...
Lunacy. Make the point, though, that it's not just trailer dwellers with no teeth who believe this stuff. On the contrary, the person who told me he believed it had a PhD.
Adam Hominem |
07.18.09 - 11:29 am | #
It's like believing the earth is flat, y'know?
Adam Hominem
Both beliefs are ridiculous.
Terry C - Castrating B*tch- |
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07.18.09 - 11:29 am | #
"he believed everything in the Bible was literally true."
People can be so fucking stupid...
fred
Particularly since the bible contradicts itself from one page to the next.
Terry C - Castrating B*tch- |
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07.18.09 - 11:31 am | #
I didn't care for Charles Kuralt.
Don't know why; just didn't.
Terry C - Castrating B*tch-
He was exactly like Eric Sevareid. He never actually said a fucking thing you could take home with you, and they both didn't say it at considerable length.
I mourn Cronkite, but either of those guys? No.
Adam Hominem |
07.18.09 - 11:32 am | #
The ad says "Democrats Are Scared...Find Out Why."
How about "Republicans ARE Delusional....I KNOW Why!"?
Terry C - Castrating B*tch- |
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07.18.09 - 11:33 am | #
A bit later he saw me in the hallway and told me he had no idea she was a fundy. he was quite shocked.
Buckeye ...
Lunacy. Make the point, though, that it's not just trailer dwellers with no teeth who believe this stuff. On the contrary, the person who told me he believed it had a PhD.
Adam Hominem | 07.18.09 - 11:29 am | #
My boss is very, very smart woman. But her mom was a fundy, and her husband's very conservative. So, she believes literally in the bible.
My mom was pretty religious, but neither she nor her father, a pastor, believed in the bible as literal truth.
Buckeye ... |
07.18.09 - 11:33 am | #
It never ceases to mystify me how some people can tolerate the stark cognitive dissonance of simultaneously harboring elaborate belief systems based on both the scientific method and tribal mythology. But there are many such people, even some of them who are in my line of work - viz. Francis Collins.
slartibartfast |
07.18.09 - 11:33 am | #
He was exactly like Eric Sevareid. He never actually said a fucking thing you could take home with you, and they both didn't say it at considerable length.
I mourn Cronkite, but either of those guys? No.
Adam Hominem
I didn't care for Sevareid either. And you just hit on the reason why.
Terry C - Castrating B*tch- |
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07.18.09 - 11:34 am | #
People can be so fucking stupid...
fred | 07.18.09 - 11:28 am | #
Well, that was not the conclusion that I drew. This guy was actually quite bright. His wife was a medical resident. And yet their faith allowed them to hold what appeared to be radically contradictory views of the universe.
Shared Humanity |
07.18.09 - 11:34 am | #
Buckeye, the current fundies in Dayton - some of them anyway - are people who have recovered economically. But the foundation of the society is gone.
The rural fundies, like your nurses, were always there, gut the economy has forced them to come into town to get jobs.
Innaresting place, Dayton metro area - an amateur sociologist's dream .
stuckinlodi |
07.18.09 - 11:34 am | #
And yet their faith allowed them to hold what appeared to be radically contradictory views of the universe.
Shared Humanity
That's why they call it faith.
Adam Hominem |
07.18.09 - 11:35 am | #
The ad says "Democrats Are Scared...Find Out Why."
i don't know why this should be a positive thing. we aren't playing football, for christ's sake. i'm pretty sure the tibetans were scared when china's army started approaching, but that didn't really have any bearing on who was right or wrong, or what outcome would be best.
fucking republicans. always at war with everyone, for no other sake than to be at war.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.18.09 - 11:36 am | #
nice one on cronkite and halberstam over at glenzilla.
not too too long, either, or wordy.
includes this.
UPDATE II: In the hours and hours of preening, ponderous, self-serving media tributes to Walter Cronkite, here is a clip you won't see, in which Cronkite -- when asked what is his biggest regret -- says (h/t sysprog):
What do I regret? Well, I regret that in our attempt to establish some standards, we didn't make them stick. We couldn't find a way to pass them on to another generation.
It's impossible even to imagine the likes of Brian Williams, Tom Brokow and friends interrupting their pompously baritone, melodramatic, self-glorifying exploitation of Cronkite's death to spend a second pondering what he meant by that.
Sevareid was great as himself in The Right Stuff.
NTodd, Wise Latina |
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07.18.09 - 11:37 am | #
back when dems were bare knuckle
never aired, though.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.18.09 - 11:37 am | #
"Well, that was not the conclusion that I drew. This guy was actually quite bright. His wife was a medical resident. And yet their faith allowed them to hold what appeared to be radically contradictory views of the universe."
True, but I consider that to be profoundly stupid, particularly *because* they are so educated. They don't have an excuse.
The Bible is a perfectly workable document without needing to believe it as literal truth. It's when people try to put the proverbial square peg in a round hole that they start being wackjobs.
I have a couple of relatives just like that. Boggles the mind.
fred |
07.18.09 - 11:37 am | #
I don't personally see how any sensible connotation of the word "faith" can used to justify belief in things that are manifestly, demonstrably at odds with reality. The correct word is "denial".
slartibartfast |
07.18.09 - 11:37 am | #
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QuentinCompson, Retributionary |
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07.18.09 - 11:38 am | #
Yuck. Ick. Ptui.
Scott SImon interviewing a couple about their fifty year anniversary.
And there are SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETS
BlueinColorado |
07.18.09 - 11:38 am | #
The famed hot dog's Wienermobile crashed Friday into the deck and garage of a home in Mount Pleasant, about 35 miles south of Milwaukee.
If there were any weiners on it, the homeowners didn't have to worry about what to have for dinner that night.
Terry C - Castrating B*tch- |
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07.18.09 - 11:38 am | #
cats love trains. if you love cats, you love trains
jr |
07.18.09 - 12:45 pm | #
i found an illustration for a monorail in my children's 'encyclopedia set-the book of knowledge'. said it would be coming soon in 1912.
pansypoo |
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07.18.09 - 1:35 pm | #
We also have the South Lake Union Trolley, with the acronym SLUT. Tshirts say 'ride the SLUT', awesome...
Anonymous |
07.18.09 - 1:54 pm | #