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GravatarOT: Peroxide Perino stomps her feet in writing:

Budgeting is about making difficult choices and setting priorities. Always deciding to spend more and raising taxes isn't a difficult choice, and isn't responsible. We encourage Congress to work quickly to send the remaining appropriations bills one at a time -- as they promised the American people -- and within the reasonable spending limits recommended by the President.

The failure of Congress to carry out its basic responsibility to fund the government cannot be resolved with letters. It can only be resolved by Congress getting its work done, and not wasting dwindling legislative days on political statements and legislation that wil never become law.


Gravataruh uh


GravatarToday in Chimpyland:

PRESIDENT BUSH: I'm now going to go feed the Chancellor a hamburger. (Laughter.) Right here, Crawford, Texas. No, well, I mean back over there. Thank you all.
CHANCELLOR MERKEL: Obviously, for me, as a person who originally came from Hamburg --
PRESIDENT BUSH: Yes.
CHANCELLOR MERKEL: -- it's even more important.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Hamburger.


GravatarOT: Western documentary makers should think twice about making films about Islam because they do not understand the issues as well as their Muslim counterparts, a leading Muslim film-maker has said.

Parvez Sharma, whose documentary about what it means to be gay and Muslim had its European premiere at the Sheffield International Documentary Festival last night, said Western non-Muslim film makers were jumping on the "Islamic bandwagon".

Sharma added: "Post 11 September, [Islam] is suddenly very hot", and he cited the "plane-loads" of documentary makers who flew from New York to Afghanistan after the terrorist attacks of 9/11.

"For many documentary film-makers there's very little understanding of the complexities. Everyone has been jumping on the Islamic bandwagon. Very few of those films do justice [to Islam]. They suffer from a lack of comprehension. There's this need to cash in on the Islamic theme."

Sharma, whose documentary, A Jihad For Love includes emotional interviews with gay Muslims from around the world, torn between their homosexuality and their faith, said there was a "paucity" of Muslim film-makers and called on Islamic documentary producers to make their own voices heard to combat Islamaphobia. His Jihad, filmed over six years, reveals the often shocking treatment meted out to homosexuals in Islamic states such as Iran, where one of the men featured was flogged for attending a gay party, and in Egypt, where another interviewee was thrown into prison, where he was raped, then fled to France.


http://news.independent.co.uk/ me...icle3146393.ece


GravatarCHANCELLOR MERKEL: Obviously, for me, as a person who originally came from Hamburg --
PRESIDENT BUSH: Yes.
CHANCELLOR MERKEL: -- it's even more important.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Hamburger.


Oh, now I get it!


GravatarToday's Republicans aren't nearly as adept in keeping their pathological issues under wraps, as were their predecessors.


Gravatar"PRESIDENT BUSH: I'm now going to go feed the Chancellor a hamburger. (Laughter.) Right here, Crawford, Texas. No, well, I mean back over there. Thank you all.
CHANCELLOR MERKEL: Obviously, for me, as a person who originally came from Hamburg --
PRESIDENT BUSH: Yes.
CHANCELLOR MERKEL: -- it's even more important.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Hamburger. "

Yet we allow this man to spend our tax dollars flying around in Air Force One.

Poor aircraft will need fumigation and and a complete upholstery change when he leaves office.


Gravatar Space News


GravatarThree-dimensional images of a foetus "walking" in the womb

I once heard a blastocyte recite the Gettysburh Address: Four meitoses and seven years ago...


GravatarHecate,

This quote is from John at Americablog, "Just add it to the litany of issues - from privacy to Osama - that the Dems have repeatedly dropped the ball on.

I swear, the Democrats deserve every single bit of pain they get. They're absolutely useless. Heads need to roll in this party, bad. The current crop of members, leaders, and consultants have no idea, nor desire, to fight back. They deserve to lose. A serious, serious bloodletting is needed in our party. Now."

Yep


GravatarToday in Chimpyland:


Jesus.


Fucking.




CHRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIST!!!


GravatarI once heard a blastocyte recite the Gettysburh Address: Four meitoses and seven years ago...
spinoza 66:6


"A mitochondion divided against itself, well, actually can stand."


GravatarObsolete: How I stopped worrying about the Muslims…


GravatarSounds like Bush has decided on the Chancellor's fun new nickname


GravatarThree-dimensional images of a foetus "walking" in the womb

Actually, it was doing the Electric Slide.


GravatarThis sounds like an excellent basis for a libel/defamation lawsuit.


GravatarI once heard a blastocyte recite the Gettysburh Address: Four meitoses and seven years ago...

They understand the concept of years after only a few cellular divisions?


GravatarI was looking at Arbitron ratings for satellite radio today and was disgusted (though not really surprised) to discover that the top-rated channels on both XM and Sirius are the ones that exactly mirror the formats which are already available on broadcast radio.

I know the channels I listen to don't have a chance of surviving the merger, if it occurs.


GravatarThree-dimensional images of a foetus "walking" in the womb are to be shown to MPs and peers by a cross-party alliance of campaigners in an attempt to persuade the House of Lords to tighten the law on abortion.

Scans produced by Professor Stuart Campbell have been dismissed as misleading by pro-abortion MPs, who insist that the foetus is not sufficiently developed to feel pain until much later.

But campaigners for tighter abortion laws will use the images to try to persuade more MPs and peers to back their call for the upper time limit for abortion to be reduced from 24 weeks to the European average of 13 weeks.


GravatarDemocracy as dictatorship


Gravatar"The United States Government just asked us to save the world, anyone want to say no?"
- Bruce Willis and in that movie where they blow up the asteroid.


What if someone came to you and said that, what would you be willing to do?

Now let's say that Ntodd's view on peace is what is required to save the world. What would you be willing to do?

Now who has a better track record in saving the world? The Government or NTodd?
From below.


GravatarThree-dimensional images of a foetus "walking" in the womb

Mr. President, we must not allow a three dimensional walking foetus gap!!


GravatarReflections on Remembrance Sunday


GravatarRight wing radio host using their radio show to raise money. Hmmmm. Where have I heard that before?
M elanie M organ and Move America Forward.


GravatarThree-dimensional images of a foetus "walking" in the womb

Guess we know the next guest celebrity on Dancing With the Stars.


GravatarThree-dimensional images of a foetus "walking" in the womb




Have Condi teach them to iceskate.


GravatarThe Western perception of Iranian women is that they live difficult, oppressed lives. Yet these pictures taken by the British photographer Olivia Arthur show Teheran's young women to be independent, party-loving, and leading surprisingly liberal lives. By Isabel Albiston


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Now who has a better track record in saving the world? The Government or NTodd?


The question should read:  Bruce Willis or NTodd?


GravatarDumbya, if Merkel was from Frankfurt, what would you feed her then? Don't forget, you're already responsible for one divorce.


GravatarThey understand the concept of years after only a few cellular divisions?

They not only are humans at conception, they are little Calvinistic Christians who can do math and sing light opera. I once saw an embryo with only a few divisions show that evolution was wrong using a slide ruler and Charles Hodgman's Mathematical Table.


GravatarHeh, Chimpy and the Hamburger.

Wonder how she feels about our man in Pakistan.


Gravatarpart of me is worried about these 'pro-choice' fuckheads but then they don't have the same backing as those in America if that makes sense

its not a vital issue in most people's lives and everytime its tried to be made an election issue, people have other worries i.e. jobs, houses

abortion is low on the list


Gravatar"Heh, heh, Ah'm gonna call you 'Burgy'."


GravatarThree-dimensional images of a foetus "walking" in the womb

Walking back from your house, walking in the womb

I hope my leg don't break, walking in, walking in the womb


GravatarWhen it comes to debating RWAs you don't fight lies with the truth. You fight it with derision. Just laugh in their faces, say something like you poor stupid tool and walk. Drives them nuts. The implication that you know something they don't and you don't care what they have to say hurts. But debating these people when they lie or repeat lies is pointless.
Neponset | 11.10.07 - 4:27 pm | #


There are two tactics, one of which will always work:
1. Neponset's derision. I find telling them that the Iranian Secret Service really enjoys working with wingers, drives them nuts. You can ask when they want to sent Ollie North back to Iran with more cakes and stingers.
2. Ask them to try to separate their personal, obsessive, interest in glorifying tough sweaty men with guns and uniforms, from their political discussion. This can reduce them to sputtering rapidly, but one should be aware of the potential for violence. "Obviously, you are attracted to these policies because you are sexually turned on by men in uniform, but as a policy, it makes no sense."


GravatarOK, so we tried Jethro Bodean in the Oval Office, just to please the dentally challenged voters.

It worked out horribly.

Now, can we elect smart people again?!


GravatarIf Fetuses are walking in the womb, why the fuck do they lie there like infants the first months of their life? This is like the Riddle of the Sphinx tres stupido.


GravatarOr would that be Walkin in the womb?


GravatarThe Western perception of Iranian women is that they live difficult, oppressed lives. Yet these pictures taken by the British photographer Olivia Arthur show Teheran's young women to be independent, party-loving, and leading surprisingly liberal lives. By Isabel Albiston
Moonbootica, Der Rosenkavalier


That proves nothing. I've seen porn movies where the poor exploited women are forced to dress as nuns.


GravatarJonathan Aitken, the disgraced former Tory cabinet minister who was jailed for perjury, will be rehabilitated into the political frontline when he takes charge of a task force on prison reform that will help formulate Conservative policy.

In one of the most spectacular comebacks in recent British political history, which meets with the approval of senior members of the shadow cabinet, Aitken is to chair a high-powered group of criminal justice experts that will examine the crisis in Britain's prisons.


http://politics.guardian.co.uk/ c...2209213,00.html


GravatarHey, let's set up a huge robotics show that we can travel with all over the country...we can call it "Walking with Foetuses."


GravatarWill someone say something on topic please? I'm not understanding the FDL post, except there are shady dealings going on.


Gravatarrootless-e | 11.10.07 - 4:56 pm

Hmmm, I'll have to try one of those, thanks.


GravatarThat proves nothing. I've seen porn movies where the poor exploited women are forced to dress as nuns.

That was that cool Jersey City bar, correct. My, uh, friend told me about it.


GravatarOh, I forgot.

Damn you to hell spinoza.


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Three-dimensional images of a foetus "walking" in the womb


They should give the little bugger a cellphone.


GravatarThe fetus walking in the womb is an update of the biblical story of Jonah inside the whale, only digitized and shrunk for Gooper duper consumption.


GravatarA cursory scan of the thread would appear to suggest that fund-raising scandals involving the Jena 6 are not a major concern of the 125 Atriots currently online.


GravatarOkay, I'm going to work on some other stuff for awhile. Later.


GravatarOK, so we tried Jethro Bodean in the Oval Office, just to please the dentally challenged voters.

Well, Rudy would certainly make THEM feel inadequate.

(just pic)


Gravatar"
Now who has a better track record in saving the world? The Government or NTodd?
From below.
Spocko "

Okay, I have been lost in family photo land for several hours...

When did this Asteroid show up and why is my life depending on NTodd saving us all?


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A cursory scan of the thread would appear to suggest that fund-raising scandals involving the Jena 6 are not a major concern of the 125 Atriots currently online.


Bring on the cookie recipes.


GravatarThat was that cool Jersey City bar, correct. My, uh, friend told me about it.
spinoza 66:6


One of them, anyway.


GravatarI'm not understanding the FDL post, except there are shady dealings going on.
mer


"Or not."

Which is how I read it.


GravatarAn asteroid, you say?

Sounds like a job for Lembit Öpik.


GravatarOh, pooh.
No good deed.
.


Gravatarwhere do i get rid of fabric?


GravatarI'm not understanding the FDL post, except there are shady dealings going on.

No, there's a dickweed nationally syndicated radio wingnut alleging that there are shady dealings going on, despite hard proof to the contrary.


GravatarTouchdown, Illinois!

They lead Ohio State 21 to 14 with 17 seconds until halftime.


GravatarOh, pooh.
No good deed...


"...goes unpunished" is implied, innit?


GravatarMer, the scandal is that there is no scandal. That didn't stop ABC radio from claiming there was a scandal, however, even though it was provided with proof that the money raised for the Jena 6 was paid to the lawyers representing them.

Does that help?


GravatarNorman Mailer's dead.


Gravatarwhy do i have 6 yards of celery green velour?


Gravatarwhere do i get rid of fabric?
ErinPDX


Ahem. What kind of fabric?


Gravatar"where do i get rid of fabric?"
--ErinPDX

ql?


GravatarRe: "Walking with Foetuses":

The "Walking with Dinosaurs" show is here this weekend. But because the cheapest tickets are $35 and it would cost me $40 in gasoline to go get my 8-year old nephew and take him to it, we're not going.


Gravatarmer,

the way I read the FDL post is that someone is pissed that the group raising money is actually spending it on lawyers and not sharing it with . . . well, just plain fokes cause fokes need money too, you know?


GravatarNorman Mailer's dead.

Still?


GravatarNorman Mailer's dead.
Richard


What, still?

Bet he writes an article for Playboy about it.


GravatarEver since he first entered Parliament Lembit has been banging on about the threat posed to the planet by near-earth objects, an obsession that may well have something to do with the fact that his grandfather was an astronomer and even has an asteroid 2099 Opik named in his honour. Lembit got very excited when it was repported that the near-Earth object 2002 NT7 might well be on a collision course and strike the planet on the 1st February 2019. "I have said for years that the chances of this asteroid having an impact which could wipe out most of the human race is 100%" he informed a reporter before admitting that actually near-Earth object 2002 NT7 would miss the Earth by a good 600,000 miles or so.

He has however faced accusations that he has a tendency to sensationalise the issue and is believed to have an arrangement with the journalist Nigel Nelson of the Sunday tabloid The People, by which they regularly collaborate on an asteroid-threat story every month or so, which no doubt helps Lembit raise his public profile. Neverthless his tireless campaigning was partially responsible for the government's decision, announced on the 4th January 2000, to establish a Task Force on Near-Earth Objects to assess the threat posed by orbiting rocks. It was presumably a disappointment to him that the Task force recommended that the proposed Near Earth Objects Information Centre be established at the National Space Science Centre in Leicester rather than the Spaceguard UK facility which is conveniently (and entirely coincidentally) located near the town of Knighton in his own constituency.


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why do i have 6 yards of celery green velour?


You intend to make a Riddler costume?


GravatarTaking the toddler to Chuck E Cheese tomorrow for his third b-day.

I am frightened.


GravatarName yer poison, Zap. The extra one-liner cost me...


GravatarHello bats!
I didn't expect to be able to get online, but here I am at Conception Abbey in the library on one of their monastery computers!
Our conference is over, tonight we see a local production of "The Fantasticks", tomorrow we have our outting (& a nice dinner) & Monday I fly to Columbus, OH to visit my parents -- now, how are those football games going?


GravatarHOLD IT A MINUTE G_D DAMMIT TO HELL.

WHAT IS THIS?

Fighting has erupted between far-right marchers and more than 1,000 counter-demonstrators in the Czech city of Prague on the anniversary of a notorious Nazi-era massacre of Jews.

The counter-demonstrators had gathered to protest against a rally by the Movement for Young Nationalist Democrats (MND).

Police had earlier sealed off the meeting point of the MND and the city's Jewish quarter, where the counter-rally was held.


MOON? WHAT THE HELL?


Gravatar"Does that help?"
--Diane C.

Yes, thank you.


GravatarNo good deed goes unpunished is the reason that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.


GravatarI am frightened.
trifecta


You should be afraid...very afraid.


Gravatarokay, one MORE errand to run.

Which means I will have been up and down these fucking stairs 9 times today.


GravatarTaking the toddler to Chuck E Cheese tomorrow for his third b-day.

I am frightened.
trifecta |

You should be.


GravatarMOON? WHAT THE HELL?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar | Homepage | 11.10.07 - 5:04 pm | #


beats me, i'm not an expert on the Czech political scene heh


GravatarNorman Mailer's dead.
Richard

What, still?

Bet he writes an article for Playboy about it.
SteveLG


If anyone could believe that they themselves would rise from the dead physically like Christ, it would be Norman Mailer.


Gravatar
Still?


Well, I guess 4 hour old stories are old news.


GravatarIt is a long time since Norman Mailer has written anything that I liked (but that's just me)


GravatarTaking the toddler to Chuck E Cheese tomorrow for his third b-day.

I am frightened.
trifecta


Jeez... used to have anniversary dinners with the then-wife at Chuck E. Cheese.

My favorite memory was a birthday party for kid across the street... the birthday boy was absolutely terrified of Chuck E.

Good times, good times.


GravatarAhem. What kind of fabric?
ql vaginal American

2 yrds, 60" wool-blend herringbone purple w/pink & lt blue flecks. Had I planned to make a jacket?


GravatarWhich means I will have been up and down these fucking stairs 9 times today.

watertiger

You can skip the gym tomorrow wt!


GravatarBrazilian energy ministers have announced the second largest discovery of new oil reserves in the past 20 years in a find that could transform the country into one of the world's largest producers.

The Brazilian government said tests on the Tupi oilfield, in the Atlantic Ocean 160 miles off the coast of Rio de Janeiro, showed it could eventually produce up to 8 billion barrels of light oil and natural gas, increasing the country's reserves by more than 60 per cent. That would make Brazil the world's eighth biggest oil producer, ahead of Nigeria and not far behind its Latin American neighbour Venezuela.

The find, the largest new oil discovery since the 12-billion barrel Kashagan field found in Kazakhstan in 2000, also enabled BG, the British gas group, to defy the falling stock market yesterday. BG, which posted a 1.6 per cent share price rise to 1,005p, has a 25 per cent stake in the Tupi venture, which is 65 per cent owned by Petrobras, the Brazilian oil giant. The final 10 per cent of the operation is held by Galp, a Portuguese exploration company.


http://news.independent.co.uk/ bu...icle3146478.ece


GravatarOne drink of her choice to Diane.

But I am out of here for a while. Later . .. .


GravatarIt is a long time since Norman Mailer has written anything that I liked (but that's just me)
Prior Aelred


Hi Prior.

You and everyone else if the morning thread is anything to go by.

Hope you are enjoying your vacation.


GravatarMovement for Young Nationalist Democrats (MND)

You know, these groups are running out of Nazi euphemisms...


GravatarNorman Mailer's dead.
Richard

What, still?

Bet he writes an article for Playboy about it.
SteveLG


Too late.
His ego is already in a jar of formaldehyde at the Harvard Medical College.


GravatarYou can skip the gym tomorrow wt!

not on your life!  yoga makes me sane.


Gravatar"If anyone could believe that they themselves would rise from the dead physically like Christ, it would be Norman Mailer."
--Jennifer

In that case, he still has a couple of days left.


GravatarWalken in the womb. "Your father asked ...me to give you...this watch."


Gravatarwatertiger you're my hero.

I've been up and down twice and am ready to croak.

I still have to go grocery shopping, alas.


GravatarMy Bloody Valentine - Soon


GravatarScariest thing is Chuch e cheese opens at 9am on Sundays. we are contemplating going then to beat the crowd.


GravatarIf the fetus can walk in the womb, clearly it is human!

Or at least anthropoid!


Gravataromg
3 1/2 yrds 60" Barney Purple wool.
heeeeeeee
wtf was i thinking?


Gravatar2 yrds, 60" wool-blend herringbone purple w/pink & lt blue flecks. Had I planned to make a jacket?
ErinPDX |


Oh dear, quilts only use cotton. Sorry.


GravatarThis picture of Rudy and Bernie could be mistaken as one of those gay marriage pics from a while back.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/


GravatarI saw "The Fantasticks" on Bleeker St. in Greenwich Village 30 years ago.

Loved it.


Gravatarbefore admitting that actually near-Earth object 2002 NT7 would miss the Earth by a good 600,000 miles or so.

How close would it have to get to be captured by Earth's gravity if, indeed, gravity captures stuff?


GravatarScariest thing is Chuch e cheese opens at 9am on Sundays. we are contemplating going then to beat the crowd.
trifecta


Good idea. Then you all can take a nap. I always found these things to be extremely tiring.


GravatarScariest thing is Chuch e cheese opens at 9am on Sundays. we are contemplating going then to beat the crowd.
trifecta


Why? The mayhem's the best part.


Gravatarql vaginal American --

We had a wonderful nun as presenter -- basic topic was the relationship between the older & younger monks & passing on "monastic wisdom" & community stories -- she (currently a Benedictine nun -- formerly a Dominican sister -- constitutionally a teacher) had each of us tell our own community's stories -- it was really interesting.


GravatarNorman Mailer's dead.
Richard


Timothy Leary wept.


GravatarTaking the toddler to Chuck E Cheese tomorrow for his third b-day.

I am frightened.


Give me power of attorney. Somebody will need to make major decisions for you after your brain dies.


GravatarBBC Four were showing a programme about the Permian–Triassic extinction event and it was discussing the various theories from the Siberian traps to the sudden release of methane hydrates from the sea floor

a cretiniosts would hate the show


GravatarWatertiger: I enjoy yoga sometimes too, but my biggest problem is that my mind wanders easily and then I start feeling trapped, wondering how much longer the class is going to go on. Wish I were more one with myself!


GravatarHow close would it have to get to be captured by Earth's gravity if, indeed, gravity captures stuff?
Lime Rickey


Depends on how fast it's going.


Gravatarwatertiger you're my hero.

poor guy who's painting the apartment across the hall - as we crossed paths on our numerous trips, I said, "don't worry.  it doesn't get any easier."



Gravatarwatertiger --
If yoga makes you sane, when R U planning on starting?


GravatarHi, Prior!



GravatarYou got it Ntodd. I will not wake up holding 100% of my investments in Tastee Freez Inc though will I?


Gravatar Combining comments can be fun. Hecate takes on petitioner:

The guy collecting signatres at the farmers' market to get Rudy on the ballot told me that I was the rudest woman he's ever met. It's been bothering me all day. I want to go back and see if I can rachet up the rudness enough to be the rudest person he's ever met, as well.

Hecate, I surely hope you gave that signature collector for JulieAnnie enough hell to blister his backside!

The first time that he asked me to sign, I just gave him the finger and walked away to buy some brussel sprouts. The second time, well, I may have been a bit more expressive.

I was sitting here, heard a BOOM! and then everything went off.

Petitioner tartare, anyone?

Nope, he's tartare. Apparently he got thrown clear of the transformer before he cooked.

Large one, too, so plenty to go around. Takers, anyone?


GravatarIf anyone could believe that they themselves would rise from the dead physically like Christ, it would be Norman Mailer.
Jennifer


And well he should do. Him and Studs Terkel, sons of bitches, could write like hammers to the heads of fools.


GravatarWish I were more one with myself!

That's why it's a "active meditation."  Coordinating your breathing with the movement keeps your mind focused.


Gravatara cretiniosts would hate the show
Moonbootica, Der Rosenkavalier

Recent information indicates that the Permian extinction was caused by a confluence of events including the long simmering Siberian Traps and another meteor/earth impact that acted like a catlyst for the ensuing destruction of nearly all life.


Gravatarnot on your life! yoga makes me sane.

watertiger


Okay.
You're in charge of the next Nepali class.
.


GravatarBuckeyes currently choking No. 1 away at half 21-14 to Ill.


GravatarDid I miss the Ron Paul thread?


GravatarAnd well he should do. Him and Studs Terkel, sons of bitches, could write like hammers to the heads of fools.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar


Yes, but his habit of referring to himself in the third person was a bit "Second Coming"-ish, don't you think?


GravatarMy wife goes to "Hot Yoga", where they turn up the thermostat in the room where they exercise.

I'm thinking, hell, that was high school wrestling practice, Nov '74.


GravatarHi sister of ye!

How are things back home in MI?

The weather has been brisk but pleasant in MO. The monastery is an hour & a half from Kansas City airport (true of most Benedictine monasteries -- a drawback for those of us who hate to travel).


Gravatar
If yoga makes you sane, when R U planning on starting?


who knew priors were such wiseasses?

btw, saw a monk in Costco today.  I giggled.


GravatarFor some reason, I find myself humming the Wisconsin fight song...


GravatarMy big score today: locally grown and pressed organic canola, flaxseed and sunflower oil.


GravatarMy wife goes to "Hot Yoga", where they turn up the thermostat in the room where they exercise.

Hot yoga isn't really that healthy.


GravatarHot Yoga, aka, Bikram Yoga.


Gravatarsome one was talking on the last thread about the furry tailed rat.

http://www.maniacworld.com/squir...cle- course.html


GravatarNov 9th

# 1444 - Battle of Varna: The crusading forces of King Vladislaus III of Varna (aka Ulaszlo I of Hungary and Wladyslaw III of Poland) are crushed by the Turks under Sultan Murad II and Vladislaus is killed.
# 1520 - Danish King Christian II executes dozens of people in the Stockholm Bloodbath after a successful invasion of Sweden.
# 1619 - René Descartes has the dreams that inspire his Meditations on First Philosophy.
# 1674 - Anglo-Dutch War: As provided in the Treaty of Westminster, Netherlands cedes New Netherlands to England.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_10


GravatarDepends on how fast it's going.
Arkenor


Heh. There's always some mumbo-jumbo qualifications with this scientific crap.


GravatarYes, but his habit of referring to himself in the third person was a bit "Second Coming"-ish, don't you think?
Jennifer


No.

There used to be American writers. There was an American voice. Once heard, you felt better and stronger and able to deal. It's gone.


GravatarFor some reason, I find myself humming the Wisconsin fight song...
Barndog, GO STATE!

Damn! Now I am too.

MSU beat Alabama...suck it, Scarborough.


GravatarI was much better at yoga when I was 50# lighter!

I've been getting in a daily run here -- it just makes me hungry!

BTW -- I did get a bell for my mother in the gift shop (my mother collects bells -- the purpose of these workshops is to find her another one).


Gravatarbtw, saw a monk in Costco today. I giggled.

Did you buy him? And which section was he in?


Gravatar
Recent information indicates that the Permian extinction was caused by a confluence of events including the long simmering Siberian Traps and another meteor/earth impact that acted like a catlyst for the ensuing destruction of nearly all life.


I saw a documentary about it. The theory is that the two in conjunction with each other caused a global warming double whammy. Temperatures went up by about 20 degrees.


Gravatar
Hot yoga isn't really that healthy.


I don't need the room temperature turned up to 108 degrees (or whatever Bikram's trademarked and patented procedure is).  I sweat enough in ashtanga yoga.

And yes, that fuckwit who founded "Bikram" yoga has it trademarked.  Because it's only a thousands-of-years old practice.


GravatarYou got it Ntodd. I will not wake up holding 100% of my investments in Tastee Freez Inc though will I?

The plan isn't to have you wake up...


Gravatar
I saw a documentary about it. The theory is that the two in conjunction with each other caused a global warming double whammy. Temperatures went up by about 20 degrees.
Richard | Homepage | 11.10.07 - 5:17 pm | #


thats what the BBC Four programmed concluded


GravatarIt's gone.
GWPDA


I actually think it is making a come back. I am currently reading Ann Quinlan's "Rise & Shine" Though I'm about half way through, I don't quite know where she is going with the story, but it is a good read anyway.


GravatarMy big score today: locally grown and pressed organic canola, flaxseed and sunflower oil.
Moe Szyslak


My big score today: handmade, honest to Christ chopped liver from Katz's Deli, made with real schmaltz, not canola oil. Un-effing-believable. And, from Karsh's, fresh challah rolls, so soft and sweet as to make you cry.


Gravatar
Did you buy him? And which section was he in?


He was in the office supplies section.  I didn't have the right coupon.


GravatarTurns out, IOKIYCIR (it's ok if your cock/cunt is Republican).


Gravatar"who knew priors were such wiseasses?"

Well, anybody who listened in on this Priors' Workshop would have gotten a pretty good idea!

The most fun monastery history was St. Vincent in Latrobe, PA -- their founder, Bonniface Wimmer, was completely insane!


GravatarI didn't have the right coupon.

I haven't seen a monk coupon since Martin Luther.


Gravataralright, and now I really have to make the trek down the stairs.


Gravatar
Police had earlier sealed off the meeting point of the MND and the city's Jewish quarter, where the counter-rally was held.

MOON? WHAT THE HELL?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar | Homepage | 11.10.07 - 5:04 pm | #


Sudetenland yearns for the Reich.


GravatarMy big score today: locally grown and pressed organic canola, flaxseed and sunflower oil.
Moe Szyslak

My big score today: handmade, honest to Christ chopped liver from Katz's Deli,



My big scroe today: frost-sweetened kale and dandelion greens at the farmer's market and a Dynamite Vineyards 2003 Merlot at SteveLG's place.


GravatarPrior, I haven't poked my nose outside today - I decided to go grocery shopping tomorrow and make the my designated totally lazy day - but it looks pretty gloomy and Novemberish.

Sounds like you're having a good time at your convention, travel notwithstanding. Back when I was still churchgoing I knew some pretty cool nuns.


Gravatar
Did you buy him? And which section was he in?


Probably with the Fish Friars.

Or the Chip Monks.


Gravatarscroe=score


GravatarCelebrating my 28th anniversary tonight...going out to dinner....to prepare myself I intend to be pleasant with all of you....even NTodd.


Gravatarhmm i love Double Gloucester and Chive cheese

can't stop eating the stuff


GravatarI intend to be pleasant with all of you....even NTodd.

That's a pretty fucking silly way to celebrate!

Anywayz, congrats.


Gravataromg
3 1/2 yrds 60" Barney Purple wool.
heeeeeeee
wtf was i thinking?
ErinPDX


Of making ur own Dinosaur?

(Said GWPDA, suddenly realising that the wonderful winter coat obtained at the resale in fancy-schmancy KC is pure purple....).

Good choice!


GravatarDepends on how fast it's going.
Arkenor

Heh. There's always some mumbo-jumbo qualifications with this scientific crap.
Lime Rickey


Then you'd have really hated the long answer.


GravatarI did get a bell for my mother in the gift shop (my mother collects bells -- the purpose of these workshops is to find her another one).


You are a good son


GravatarWhen it's people that do the right thing they call it responsible. When it's an insurance company they call it Liberty Mutual.


GravatarWhat's a Siberian Trap?


GravatarCzech it out:

The organizers were the Young National Democrats, which is linked to the National Resistance, a neo-Nazi group. They said their intention was to protest the deployment of Czech troops in Iraq and they pledged to defy the ban.

http://www.ynetnews.com/ articles...3469883,00.html


GravatarI realize the oils aren't the best thing to cook with, but they'll make it that much easier to reach the 100 perent local target. Now, where can I find some Nova Scotian grown coffee?


GravatarHe was a powerful congressman. She was a fledgling state candidate with promise. A master politician with a national profile, he took her under his wing and found his life's love.

Sounds like the cover blurb on a cheesy romance novels.


GravatarHi Hecate!

How has your Saturday gone?

I understand Norman Mailer is stil dead.

Also that nobody has missed him for several decades.


Gravatarmy 28th anniversary tonight


Congratulations! Many happy returns of the day!


GravatarWhat's a Siberian Trap?
Shared Humanity

Volcano that spews basalt lava.


GravatarI did get a bell for my mother in the gift shop (my mother collects bells -- the purpose of these workshops is to find her another one).

Do you need one from Arcosanti? Some neighbors of mine have them and I could easily dispatch them for you.


GravatarToday I at more of the Russian barszcz I made last night. Figured it would help with the head cold I'm fighting.

You people and your exotic buys. I'm excited 5 lb. bags of potatoes are on sale at Krogers.


Gravatarql, looks like mostly wool. May have some cotton plaids, will let you know.
back to sorting.


GravatarNow, where can I find some Nova Scotian grown coffee?
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 11.10.07 - 5:24 pm | #


Roasted in seal blubber?


GravatarHow has your Saturday gone?

I understand Norman Mailer is stil dead.


V. nicely, and made only nicer by the passing of that mysognist asshole. I hope that he forgot coins for the ferryman.

I went to the farmers' market, to work for a few hours, to Mexacali Blues in Clarendon for fish tacos, and then home to rake leaves.

Where is your conference?


GravatarEvery country has fascist groups. We've got the BNP, and the incredibly disturbing Redwatch, who devote themselves to taking pictures of liberals and posting them on their site for victimisation.


GravatarOne of my farmer pals is slaughtering an emu this week.


Gravataralright, and now I really have to make the trek down the stairs.

Stair Trek VII: The Wrath of Watertiger


Gravatar
There used to be American writers. There was an American voice. Once heard, you felt better and stronger and able to deal. It's gone.


And Digby and Driftglass and Gilly('sup Steve) and Bilmon(the fuck are you?)and so forth and so on are...what?


GravatarHundreds of protesters staged a noisy demonstration outside Downing Street, calling for the restoration of democracy in Pakistan.

Led by Jemima Khan, the ex-wife of Pakistani cricketer-turned-politician Imran Khan, the demonstrators chanted slogans and waved banners, calling Pakistani president General Pervez Musharraf a "butcher" and a "terrorist".

Pakistani lawyers, students and journalists turned out for the protest, which was organised by a disparate group of political parties and human rights groups.

Hina Jilani, a Supreme Court lawyer, said: "We want to show everyone inside Downing Street that every section of Pakistani society is now opposed to Musharraf.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ uklate...7067377,00.html


GravatarMy mother never thinks I am a good son when I leave to go back to the monastery!

The bell is actually a Christmas tree ornament, but it is a beautiful cobalt blue with gold decoration (abtract of the Holy Family) -- of course she would like it since it was a gift from me no matter what.

BTW -- the turnout for the Priors Workshop was very low this year & we are discussing whether or not to try to keep it going it -- we are sending out questionnnaires to all those who did not attend & asking what we can do to attract more participants -- changing the time of year, etc., etc. -- it gets too expensive to keep going if we fly in name speakers & only have ten or so of the 40 priors show up to share the cost!


GravatarTuesday is our 9th anniversary but we're semicelebrating today. A nice bottle of Pinot Noir, a copy of the new Terry Pratchett hardcover for Mrs. Gummo, and a delicious homemade meal for me.

Then maybe a really bad movie. John Agar, perhaps, or Timothy Farrell.

It's shared tastes like that that once caused my MIL to look at us in wonderment and ask, "Do you ever think how strange it is that you two found each other?"


GravatarChildren, children....

Norman Mailer:
...“Democracy, more than any other political system, depends on a modicum of honesty. Ultimately, it is much at the mercy of a leader who has never been embarrassed by himself,” Mailer, who as a young Harvard graduate had served in the South Pacific during World War II, wrote of Bush at the close of a brilliant piece for The New York Review of Books.
~~~“What is to be said of a man who spent two years in the Air Force of the National Guard (as a way of not having to go to Vietnam) and proceeded–like many another spoiled and wealthy father’s son–not to bother to show up for duty in his second year of service? Most of us have episodes in our youth that can cause us shame on reflection. It is a mark of maturation that we do not try to profit from our early lacks and vices but do our best to learn from them. Bush proceeded, however, to turn his declaration of the Iraqi campaign’s end into a mighty fashion show. He chose–this overnight clone of Honest Abe–to arrive on the deck of the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln on an S-3B Viking jet that came in with a dramatic tail-hook landing. The carrier was easily within helicopter range of San Diego but G.W. would not have been able to show himself in flight regalia, and so would not have been able to demonstrate how well he wore the uniform he had not honored. Jack Kennedy, a war hero, was always in civvies while he was commander in chief. So was General Eisenhower. George W. Bush, who might, if he had been entirely on his own, have made a world-class male model (since he never takes an awkward photograph), proceeded to tote the flight helmet and sport the flight suit. There he was for the photo-op looking like one more great guy among the great guys. Let us hope that our democracy will survive these nonstop foulings of the nest.”


GravatarThe UK must be careful how it tackles terrorism and treats Islamic culture if it is to avoid recreating a society reminiscent of Nazi Germany, the head of the Muslim Council of Britain has warned.

Muhammad Abdul Bari, in an interview with the Daily Telegraph, criticised the Government for fuelling tensions in the Muslim community rather than dissipating them.

He told the paper: "There is a disproportionate amount of discussion surrounding us. The air is thick with suspicion and unease. It is not good for the Muslim community, it is not good for society."

The Muslim leader continued: "Every society has to be really careful so that situation does not lead us to a time when people's minds can be poisoned as they were in the 1930s.

"If your community is perceived in a very negative manner and poll after poll says that we are alienated then Muslims begin to feel very vulnerable.

"We are seen as creating problems, not as bringing anything, and that is not good for society."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ uklate...7067376,00.html


GravatarCan you people out in CA please try and convince DiFi that she is a Democrat.

Please, it would be greatly appreciated by the Nation.


Gravatar we are sending out questionnnaires to all those who did not attend & asking what we can do to attract more participants

You're either Canadian or living in Mendocino County.


GravatarCan you people out in CA please try and convince DiFi that she is a Democrat.

Please, it would be greatly appreciated by the Nation.
ql vaginal American


There's a LOT of that going around.


GravatarI rented two movies but can only watch one tonight with my wife and another couple.

One is "Venus" with Peter O'Toole and the other is "Little Children," with Kate Winslet.

Any suggestions as to which would be best for after dinner for four wine-inebriated adults.


GravatarHecate has email.

It's yesterday's lunch menu from Le Paradou, and the wine list.

Brilliant and interesting cooking... not necessarily the 'best' I've had there, but a fine experience, as it always is.


Gravatarql

The CodePink women at the DC CodePink house have been doing a v. good job of keeping the pressure on DiFi. Course, she's a Repuke in all but name who ignores it.


GravatarThe pressure on Sir Ian Blair has intensified after it emerged that Scotland Yard was probing allegations that millions of pounds in "expenses" had gone missing.

The Met's professional standards watchdog has launched a review of spending on American Express cards issued to staff.

According to the News of the World, up to £6 million is unaccounted for and anti-corruption officers are preparing to interview hundreds of detectives.

There are claims that cash has been lavished on luxury watches, flatscreen TVs and holidays.

A spokesman for the Yard confirmed that two of the force's detectives had been arrested last month on suspicion of theft in connection to the probe.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ uklate...7067378,00.html


GravatarMailer, NYTRB, 2003
.
...It was a political bonanza for Bush provided he could deliver an appropriate sense of revenge to the millions-or is it the tens of millions?-who identified directly with those incinerated in the Twin Towers. When Osama bin Laden failed to be captured by the posses we sent to Afghanistan, Bush was thrust back to ongoing domestic problems that did not give any immediate suggestion that they could prove solution-friendly. The economy was sinking, the market was down, and some classic bastions of American faith (corporate integrity, the FBI, and the Catholic Church-to cite but three) had each suffered a separate and grievous loss of face. Increasing joblessness was undermining national morale. Since our administration was conceivably not ready to tackle any one of the serious problems looming before them that did not involve enriching the top, it was natural for the administration to feel an impulse to move into larger ventures, thrusts into the empyrean-war! We could say we went to war because we very much needed a successful war as a species of psychic rejuvenation. Any major excuse would do-nuclear threat, terrorist nests, weapons of mass destruction-we could always make the final claim that we were liberating the Iraqis. Who could argue with that? One could not. One could only ask: What will the cost be to our democracy?

Be it said that the administration knew something a good many of us did not-it knew that we had a very good, perhaps even an extraordinarily good, if essentially untested, group of armed forces, a skilled, disciplined, well-motivated military, career-focused and run by a field-rank and general staff who were intelligent, articulate, and considerably less corrupt than any other power cohort in America.

In such a pass, how could the White House fail to use them? They would prove quintessential morale-builders to a core element of American life-those tens of millions of Americans who had been spiritually wounded by 9/11. They could also serve an even larger group, which had once been near to 50 percent of the population, and remained key to the President’s political footing. This group had taken a real beating. As a matter of collective ego, the good average white American male had had very little to nourish his morale since the job market had gone bad, nothing, in fact, unless he happened to be a member of the armed forces. There, it was certainly different. The armed forces had become the paradigmatic equal of a great young athlete looking to test his true size. Could it be that there was a bozo out in the boondocks who was made to order, and his name was Iraq? Iraq had a tough rep, but not much was left to him inside. A dream opponent. A desert war is designed for an air force whose state-of-the-art is comparable in perfection to a top-flight fashion model on a runway. Yes, we would liberate the Iraqis....

.


GravatarAs I said this morning: DiFi has never been a friend of the people. She tried to get discussion of marijuana banned on the intertubes, and wanted alcohol taken off airplanes, to begin with.


GravatarGWPDA --
Those look nice (also reasonable) - I might get back to you on that

Hecate --
I am at Conception Abbey in Missouri -- far northwest corner -- nothing for miles & miles except wind generators & a large convent of nuns (about 1/3 of whom are in the infirmary -- one of my favorites whom I hoped to see when we visited yesterday died last month -- at 92 -- we both were in charge of our respective mailing lists in the Addressograph/Graphotype days) -- brilliant & truly holy woman -- heaven's gain is our loss!


GravatarGordon Brown is planning a radical scheme to subsidise farmers in Afghanistan to persuade them to stop producing heroin, as part of a wide-ranging drive to re-energise policy in the conflict the prime minister now regards as the front line in the fight against terrorism.

The Foreign Office minister Lord Malloch-Brown has admitted that the rise in opium production in the country means Britain "cannot just muddle along in the middle" and must come up with more imaginative ideas on opium eradication.

Ministers are looking at what Lord Malloch-Brown describes as a system of payments loosely along the lines of the common agricultural policy to woo the Afghan farmers off opium production. The government is conducting joint research on suitable economic incentives with the World Bank.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ afghan...2208736,00.html


Gravatarlight blue wrinkled linen gauze, once used for hippy girl top


GravatarThe Met's professional standards watchdog has launched a review of spending on American Express cards issued to staff.

1-800-THECARD

Ask for the Band 40 Team Leader.


GravatarMoe Slyzack --
Re:spelling -- or I can't type & am stuck on a stinking PC with a lousy browser that doesn't catch my typos but also I have indiscriminately read British & American texts for so long that I get confused about some spellings ("--or" & "--our" are easy, but "s" v "z" & the like are real work)

BTW -- you know how to get 30 Canadians out of a swimming pool?

You say, "Everybody get out of the pool!"


GravatarHi Prior --
I went yesterday to a gathering of Lutheran deaconesses, to honor one who was retiring. She's going to be working with St John's monastery in Minnesota on a book/workshop/something on monastic spirituality. Amazing people, the deaconesses from Valpo; I'm sure you've run across several of them in your travels.


GravatarSo Norman Mailer died, huh? I'm sorry to say that I'm not sad. *dancing a little funeral dance*


GravatarMailer is in the Dead Letter Office


GravatarCan you people out in CA please try and convince DiFi that she is a Democrat.

Please, it would be greatly appreciated by the Nation.
ql vaginal American


ql, Dianne Feinstein has never been a progressive, and I doubt that now she even qualifies as a Democrat.

A measure of the Republicans running in this state is that she was overwhelmingly re-elected. A measure of the Democrats who lead the state party is that she had no real primary opposition.


GravatarNaomi Wolf, author of "End Of America," is at firedoglake's Book Salon right now.


GravatarSteveLG has envious email.


GravatarBTW -- you know how to get 30 Canadians out of a swimming pool?

You say, "Everybody get out of the pool!"
Prior Aelred


Hey, I told that joke here about a year ago.


GravatarWhy are they bothering to cut down of the Afghani poppy production? There is such a backlog that it will make no difference & if it did it would only increase the price & therefore the violent crime involved in getting the money to buy heroin (benefitting the mob in both cases) - US drug policy is insane!


GravatarI have yet to read any book by Norman Mailer. Never felt the call to do so.


GravatarFuck.

The suitcase nukes that the administration has been using to scare the bejebus out of everyone. Well, they turn out not to be such a big worry after all.

"The suitcase nuke is an exciting topic that really lends itself to movies," said Vahid Majidi, the assistant director of the FBI's Weapons of Mass Destruction Directorate. "No one has been able to truly identify the existence of these devices."


GravatarThe Archbishop of Canterbury is facing renewed pressure to postpone the 2008 Lambeth conference of the world's Anglican bishops because of the unresolved row over gay clergy. This week nine primates, including Archbishop Peter Akinola of Nigeria, demanded its delay until all bishops could meet "in a spirit of true collegiality and unity in the faith".

In a letter they said: "What is at stake is the very nature of Anglicanism - not just about sexuality but also about the nature of Christ, the truth of the Gospel and the authority of the Bible. We reject the religion of accommodation and cultural conformity that offers neither transforming power nor eternal hope."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ religi...2208804,00.html


GravatarAs for Canadian spelling, the general rule of thumb is that if you can in any conceivable way add an extra letter, do so. All the s and z stuff, just make it up however you want, somebody in the country does it that way.


GravatarNARAL endorsed Al Wynn against Donna Edwards.

I guess the Lieberman endorsement didn't piss off enough people.


GravatarQL, I just assume that everything the administration is warning about is just a load of BS we don't really have to worry about.

What the administration is doing - or not doing, as in the case of regulation - is another matter.


GravatarHecate, ready to start boozing it up?  I am


Gravatarstrawhat --
Our monastery was originally in Valpo, but the only Lutheran sisters I've ever met were from Germany (Communitat Castellar Ring)& came to our monastery (with their chaplain) --I do know the monks from Collegeville -- their abbot & I were Novice Masters together back in the Dark Ages!

Moe Slyzak --
What? You want I should buy your joke? What am I, Jack Benny?


GravatarWhere'd we ever get a comedic monk?


GravatarI love the way the Canucks say "rezources".


GravatarHecate, ready to start boozing it up? I am

Way ahead of you.

/slides Sallyh an icy cold vodka.


GravatarWhere'd we ever get a comedic monk?
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 11.10.07 - 5:43 pm | #

Father Guido Sarducci


GravatarMoe, are you kidding?  We have goddesses, zombies, a Turkish dictator, a marsupial...the comic monk should come as no surprise


GravatarI've already had a Dry Martini and 2 glasses of red wine


GravatarNARAL endorsed Al Wynn against Donna Edwards

Motherfuckers.


GravatarMore vodka sounds good.

[goes to get cheap vodka/pop mix]


GravatarBleh. I am still stuck at work, and should be getting about it instead of hanging about here.


Gravataryou have had a several hour head start though moon.


GravatarNARAL endorsed Al Wynn against Donna Edwards.


Oh crap.

What are they thinking?


GravatarWe have goddesses, zombies, a Turkish dictator, a marsupial...the comic monk should come as no surprise
Sallyh


Well, there is that. Thank ba'all we don't have any witches.

/runs


GravatarNARAL is dead to me.


GravatarI've already had a Dry Martini and 2 glasses of red wine
Moonbootica, Der Rosenkavalier | Homepage | 11.10.07 - 5:44 pm

Ruh oh. Take some aspirin before you go to bed


GravatarEmily's list is supporting Edwards at least.


GravatarI can't wait to drink with Moon. That's gonna be a blast.


Gravataryou have had a several hour head start though moon.

An hour more if you start through me It's twenty to midnight.


Gravatar"No one has been able to truly identify the existence of these devices."

You can't see germs, neither, but that don't mean they ain't all around us.


GravatarMoonbootica --
I recommend the OTHER Guardian article on the Anglican "crisis" -- the one by Giles Fraser (rector or Putney in Southwark -- currently in Pasadena -- weather better than Missouri, I'll wager)

The great thing is that these homophobic bishops have been acting like jerks for years & our new Presiding Bishop Katharine is going after them -- legal action against them is getting underway -- she had more balls than any of the other bishops -- we are so lucky to have her!
BTW-- Her parents live on the same island that our nun presenter's convent is on -- she knows them!


Gravatarmade only nicer by the passing of that mysognist asshole.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t...h? v=tfpQJ_cz364

Mysogyny on Parade.....and yet he gets it right on Iraq...guess there is good and bad in all ofus.


GravatarEmily's list is supporting Edwards at least.

Well, that's the last $$$$ they'll ever get from me. I thought they were supposed to support women candidates.


GravatarWhich goes to show you can't please everybody.


GravatarSpain's King Juan Carlos told Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez to "shut up" as the Ibero-American summit drew to a close in Santiago, Chile.

The outburst came after Mr Chavez called former Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar a "fascist".

Mr Chavez then interrupted Spanish PM Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero's calls for him to be more diplomatic, prompting the king's outburst.

Latin American, Portuguese, Spanish and Andorran leaders were meeting in Chile.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ameri...cas/ 7089131.stm


GravatarThis is not the first moronic thing NARAL has done -- I think they believe in the power of incumbancy (& if they have invested money in a politician who has voted their way on their issue -- this is the way advocacy groups work -- other issues are not their issues -- didn't NARAL back Lieberman?)


GravatarEmily's list are doing good Hecate. They sat out 2006, and are endorsing Donna this time.

NARAL is a useless organization. Lieberman and Wynn is just pathetic.


GravatarI have yet to read any book by Norman Mailer. Never felt the call to do so

Armies of the Night
The Naked and the Dead
The Executioner's Song

I saw him give a reading once at UT Knoxville. The man was an asshole on so many levels, but the son of a bitch could write.


GravatarNARAL is dead to me.
mer


They've been dead to me for a long time. IIRC the head of NARAL is "personally" anti-choice. But she doesn't let that interfere with her duties. Uh huh. Tell me another one.


Gravatar"Fuck.

"The suitcase nukes that the administration has been using to scare the bejebus out of everyone. Well, they turn out not to be such a big worry after all.""

But who will hear this? The first false report/rumor out (about anything or anyone) is the one that sticks.

Thanks msm, for fact checking upfront.


GravatarTajikistan's Communist Party has asked the authorities for permission to preserve the capital's last remaining statue of Lenin.

The communists want to move the statue to their party headquarters when the park in which it stands is redesigned.

It will be replaced by a statue of the ninth-century Tajik poet, Rudaki.

The BBC's Tajik section says the authorities hope to promote nationalism but that the move could prompt debate about ownership of old communist items.

Dushanbe's last remaining statue of Lenin has been standing in the central park since 1926 when it was brought from the Russian city of St Petersburg.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-...fic/ 7087696.stm


GravatarEmily's list is supporting Edwards at least.

Well, that's the last $$$$ they'll ever get from me. I thought they were supposed to support women candidates.


There's a right-wing joke in there somewhere..


GravatarWell, that's the last $$$$ they'll ever get from me. I thought they were supposed to support women candidates.
Hecate


You beat me at the typing, Hecate.

That Emily's List is supporting Edwards is infuriating and a complete betrayal of their charter.


GravatarNARAL lost my money a long time ago.  Something to do with Joe Lieberman, i believe.


GravatarPrior --
I got to visit some of the Castellar Ring sisters at the Augustinerkloster in (oh, what's the name of that town . . . ) (I forget) where Martin Luther was a monk, lo these many years ago. They really embodied Benedictine hospitality -- they were wonderful. And they have a lovely little bookstore & cafe on the corner by their big ol' monumental church, too. Some more Benedictines (Catholic ones this time) run the Kloster Helfta outside Halle -- now that's a four-star guest house if ever I saw one. They brew their own beer, and darn fine beer it is, too.

So do you brew your own beer at your monastery, Prior?



GravatarI saw him give a reading once at UT Knoxville. The man was an asshole on so many levels, but the son of a bitch could write.
Toonscribe: Cartoon Liberal | 11.10.07 - 5:49 pm | #

Like Hank on Californication


GravatarDonna Edwards!

Not John Edwards.


Gravatartrifecta,

I know, I was making a (poor) joke about "Edwards." I've been giving $$$$ to Emily's List since long before I could afford to.


GravatarWell, that's the last $$$$ they'll ever get from me. I thought they were supposed to support women candidates.
Hecate


*Donna* Edwards

not John


GravatarDate night with Mrs. Moe tonight. I'm cooking some dinner, then we're off to a play, and drinks at a harbour front bar afterwards, all in the snow.


GravatarHecate --
Maybe they're supporting Elizabeth Edwards (I'm a big fan of hers!)

On a test it was Kucinich & Dodd who tied as the candidates who most cloesly matched my positions (FWIW -- am I a loser or what?)


GravatarPrior:

Magdelburg? Erfurt? Eisenach?


GravatarSo do you brew your own beer at your monastery, Prior?

Tell her about Br. Cuthbert's oatmeal ale!!!


GravatarWas there ever any serious fear campaign about suitcase nukes? I thought it was common knowledge that you really can't make one of those without some very sophisticated technology.

A shipping container nuke is another matter. For that, you just need a fuckload of HEU.


GravatarI'm outtahere. See you fine folks tomorrow.


GravatarI'm cooking some dinner, then we're off to a play, and drinks at a harbour front bar afterwards, all in the snow.

Sounds v. romantic. Mrs. Moe is v. lucky!


GravatarEmily's list are doing good Hecate. They sat out 2006, and are endorsing Donna this time.

Tri, the whole point of that organization was to help get women elected. That they would endorse a man before the first primary in a field with a woman in it is absolute bushit.

They are not doing good.


GravatarErfurt! That's it! Erfurt! Thanks! -- Brother Cuthbert's Oatmeal Ale? mmmm, do tell, Prior!


Gravatarciao Moe


GravatarI can't wait to drink with Moon. That's gonna be a blast.
Moe Szyslak


I think our Moonie could drink me under the table in half an hour.

Wine or *a* cocktail about does it for me.


GravatarSeven human rights groups including Amnesty International have urged Iran to set aside a prison sentence for women's rights activist Delaram Ali.

She has been ordered to begin her sentence of two-and-a-half years in prison and a flogging on Saturday.

Ms Ali, 24, joined a protest last year calling for greater legal rights for Iranian women.

Dozens of journalists and activists have been detained or jailed recently, accused of acting against the state.

Police broke up the demonstration Ms Ali was part of last year which called for greater rights for women in Iran's Islamic legal system.

Ms Ali says the security forces broke her left hand when they beat up the demonstrators.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...ast/ 7088310.stm


GravatarOne thing that Kos has said which is absolutely true is how useless groups like NARAL are on single issue voting.

Al Wynn votes pro choice, but voted for Iraq and the bankruptcy bill, and is corrupt.

You have a female pro choice challenger, they go with power.

Same thing happened with Lieberman/Lamont, except for the fact that Lieberman thought rape victims should have to take a taxi to the nearest hospital that would treat their needs.

He is "pro-choice" though. Fuckers. Lieberman, Wynn, and NARAL.


GravatarYou could certainly make a suitcase dirty bomb, but thats not quite so glamorous.


GravatarSee above Diane. They are endorsing Donna Edwards over Al Wynn.

They are likely supporting Hillary in the presidential race.


Gravatar*Donna* Edwards

not John
ql vaginal American


Oops.

Never mind.

/Emily Litella


GravatarA dirty bomb really can't do anything a conventional bomb can't do besides make a really big, difficult mess for you to clean up. Meh.


Gravatarscrew the evening plans.

i'm done.


GravatarYou could maybe make a steamer trunk nuke, but who travels by ship anymore?


GravatarI scored a Kucinich supporter on one of those tests. Kucinich always struck me as a bit of a jerk, but that was nothing set in concrete that my mind couldn't be changed on.

His wife seems smart and a good sport, judging by her Daily Show appearance. And Dennis taking up Stephen Colbert's challenge impressed me, and cracked me up as well.


Gravatarstrawhat --
Not me -- I just drink it -- Br Cuthbert brews our beer -- also friends with Br Peregrine from Collegeville who brews their beer & sent Br Cuthbert some of their hops --I prefer Belgian ales (Maredsous Triple is good -- also Castel) & dark British brews -- porters & stouts -- Scotch ales usually taste rather sweet with little or no hops.
BTW - never been to Germany -- I was on the Loire & saw the canal to the Rhine - closest I've been (& in Burgundy I drank wine, of course).


GravatarDirty bomb actually is kind of worse blerb.

One set in Manhattan would shut it down for years.

You would have to decontaminate everything. It would cause more disruption.


Gravatarwell at least i will be over the age limit for drinking when i go to America

22 in January I iz


GravatarGo for it, man...


http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11...eberman-for-vp/

Right-wing starts pushing Lieberman for VP.In a new Weekly Standard editorial, William Kristol, one of the most prominent and influential voices in the conservative movement, suggests that Sen. Joe Lieberman’s (I-CT) recent speech attacking war critics may be cause for the eventual Republican Presidential nominee to “offer him the vice presidency.” Peter Wehner, a former assistant to President Bush, endorses the “Joe for VP” meme at the Corner.


Gravatarscrew the evening plans.

i'm done.

watertiger


Time to order pizza.


GravatarThere have been clashes in Prague between neo-Nazis and protesters trying to block their right-wing march.

More than 1,000 people rallied in the Czech capital's old Jewish quarter to try to stop the march by members of the Young Nationalist Democrats (MND).

The march was planned for the anniversary of the 1938 anti-Jewish purge known as Kristallnacht.

Police managed keep most of the 400 right-wing marchers and the anti-Nazi demonstrators separate.

But there were scuffles in side streets near the Jewish quarter and at least one person was injured, witnesses said. Police arrested several of the right-wing marchers.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europ...ope/ 7089031.stm


GravatarI've snagged 3 Mailer books from usenet.


GravatarThere better be a good movie on teevee tonight. I need a mental break.


GravatarYou would have to decontaminate everything. It would cause more disruption.

Not with the Bush EPA. They'd just say everything was hunky-dory. Breathe deep.....


GravatarTime to order pizza.

No room in the fridge for the leftovers.  Gonna put on a pot of soup.

Hetero puke soup.


GravatarOne set in Manhattan would shut it down for years.


I find it very hard to conceive of any plausible dirty bomb scenario that shuts down all of Manhattan. Maybe a coupla dozen blocks, which is bad enough, but the whole island? No way in hell.


GravatarDirty bomb actually is kind of worse blerb.

One set in Manhattan would shut it down for years.


Nah, the EPA would just declare everything's fine, go back to work.


GravatarBr Cuthbert did brew some imperial stout with an alcohol content so high that it killed the yeast & the it was flat (bottle conditioned) -- so used it for cooking, but one day I was passing by the kitchen when he opened a bottle & it popped, we had an imediate consumption of stout before it was too late & he got another (flat) bottle for cooking -- WHY one bottle carbonated & the others did not remains a mystery.


Gravatar
Not with the Bush EPA. They'd just say everything was hunky-dory. Breathe deep.....


No one could have anticipated the night lights.


GravatarWanna hear a catchy new surf instrumental?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m...h?v=m1aATqoc- sM


GravatarMwah!  Creature features all night on Scifi!

My life is wonderful


GravatarOh, well, Toonscribe beat me to the comment. Want a cheap vodka/orange pop? It's about all I have.


Gravatar
Hetero puke soup.


My fave!

Flight of the Conchords is sold out all over town. (pouts)


Gravatar
Time to order pizza.
Gomez


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a...h?v=aS6- b7CONDI


Gravatarbad news/good news

the bad news is my ears have been freaking clogged for the last two weeks, which means within a day or so i've got to go to a dr(insurance-less) and see wtf is wrong.

the good news is my ears are clogged and can barely hear my wife screaming at the tv as osu stinks up the place.


Gravatarql vaginal American --

Quick! Fly to Missouri & come see the local production of the Fantasticks!

Re: dirty bomb -- what sister of ye said!


GravatarPrior A,

Maybe it was possessed.


GravatarWant a cheap vodka/orange pop? It's about all I have.

That would do quite nicely. Thanks.


GravatarSeriously, dispersing enough highly radioactive material to poison a large number of people with a conventional explosive is not an easy thing to do, even in a place as crowded as Manhattan.


GravatarWhen they led their campaign for equal pay in the 1970s, campaigners predicted that the glass ceiling that had hung over women would soon be smashed. More than 30 years on, a deluge of statistics has proved how premature those hopes were.

Equality activists have reacted with horror to a string of reports released this week which revealed the extent of Britain's gender pay gap, showing that women's salaries languish way behind their male counterparts – and that female workers suffer from endemic prejudice as soon as they start their careers.

The research showed that the salary split begins at graduate level, with three times as many male as female graduates earning top salaries within three years of leaving universities.

A report from the Higher Education Statistics Agency showed that 3 per cent of men would earn £50,000 or more within three years of graduating, compared with 1 per cent of women. On average, female graduates would also earn £1,000 less than their male peers in that time.


http://news.independent.co.uk/ uk...icle3146394.ece


GravatarThe Nazis liked abortion just like Liberals.


Gravatar"Nuclear family" takes on a whole new meaning -- think of the advatages of self cooking TV dinners!


GravatarNice to know that Minnasota's head of FEMA is a clone of Brownie. She was in D.C. when the bridge collapsed and didn't return for ten days.


GravatarThe Nazis liked abortion just like Liberals.
I stand with Hannity | Homepage | 11.10.07 - 6:03 pm | #

I LOVE Abortion


GravatarEventually, history books will talk about how the entire "War on Terror" was a collossal scam.


GravatarNo room in the fridge for the leftovers. Gonna put on a pot of soup.

Hetero puke soup.

watertiger


You're going to live to 90 eating like that.


GravatarHitler raised taxes just like Hillary will.


GravatarEventually, history books will talk about how the entire "War on Terror" was a collossal scam.
blerb | 11.10.07 - 6:04 pm | #

Books will be banned or burned.


GravatarThe Nazis liked abortion

Don't think so.


Gravatarwatertiger,

Soup sounds good on a chilly night like this. You and NTodd and GWPDA have email. That is what I was cautioning Moon about.


GravatarMolly Ivors --
I suggested just pouring it in a glass & dropping in a couple of Alka Seltzer -- kill two birds with one stone!

OK -- don't feed the trolls - but the Nazis banned abortion!


GravatarJeez. We seem to have a whole new assortment of obnoxious trolls today.


Gravatar
Seriously, dispersing enough highly radioactive material to poison a large number of people with a conventional explosive is not an easy thing to do, even in a place as crowded as Manhattan.


My thinking as well, particularly given the shielding effect of a landscape consisting of skyscrapers.

I can't see a suitcase sized conventional bomb being able to disperse material even beyond a block.


GravatarPETA thinks that Hitler was the greatest leader of all time since he was a vegan and passed animal "cruelty" laws.


GravatarI LOVE Abortion

Moi, aussi. Abortion allows women to compete on a somewhat more equal playing field at work and in academia. It allows women to space their chidren, plan their families, be better mothers. It helps to control an already-way-too-high population. Abortion is a good thing.


Gravatarhere's the thing:

can the crazies set their sights on another city?  we here in NYC are a little sick of all the attention.


GravatarSame trolls. New identities.


GravatarOK -- don't feed the trolls - but the Nazis banned abortion!

Maybe it was observational humor.


GravatarThe Nazis liked abortion just like Liberals.
I stand with Hannity


And I like to stand in Hannity's pants.


GravatarHecate, abortion is a social positive.

If only it'd been used on a few right wingers.


GravatarMany Nazis were homosexuals like Barney Frank.


GravatarAbortion allows women to compete on a somewhat more equal playing field at work and in academia. It allows women to space their chidren, plan their families, be better mothers.

Son of a bitch, why didn't anyone tell *me*?!?


GravatarIf only it'd been used on a few right wingers.

I have a little list.


Gravatar.Same trolls. New identities.
Richard


I guess the one that just popped up now is one of the regulars. I was thinking of the screaming one a few threads ago. That looked like a totally new MO to me.


GravatarSon of a bitch, why didn't anyone tell *me*?!?
Molly Ivors


The world needs Rosie & SP.

How's our girl doing?


GravatarMany Nazis were homosexuals like Barney Frank.

Whew! 'Cause it would be much worse if they were like Larry Craig or Ken Mehlman or Ted Haggard!


GravatarI have a little list.

How much Stoli have you had?


GravatarHow much Stoli have you had?

Not nearly enough.


GravatarI'm grilling tonight.

Asparagus marinating right now in some minced garlic and olive oil, salt and pepper (no longer than an hour). Place on grill (crosswise so it doesn't fall through) for about 8-10 minutes, turn frequently. Delicious.


GravatarSpinoza, she's had a little Stoli


GravatarHmm. The wine is being poured. We're having artichokes with garlic butter. That's it. Don't need anything else except perhaps some bread.


Gravatar
How's our girl doing?


Fabulously well. She's napping now, but we just got back from a shopping trip in which she acquired several pairs of new, holiday-themed socks. She's quite delighted.


GravatarMPs are to be given a free vote on lowering the time limit for abortions.

As The Daily Telegraph disclosed on Friday, a cross-party group is planning to table amendments to the Human Tissues and Embryos Bill when it reaches the Commons next year, proposing lowering the time limit from 24 to 20 weeks.

Government sources have now confirmed that Labour whips would follow the tradition of treating abortion as a "conscience issue" and allow a free vote on amendments proposing changes to abortion laws.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/...10/ npill210.xml


GravatarHow I love killfile.
Almost as much as I'd love another beer. brb


GravatarYeah, the anti-abortionists are so pro-life that they're pushing for universal prenatal care and free health care for moms and kids.

What's that? They're not? Didn't think so.

I'm just tipsy enough to mention this: I survived an abortion my mom tried on me, and I assure you that there aint a winger alive who's happy my dirty fucking hippie ass survived. So they can take their posturing and blow it out their asses for all I'm concerned.


GravatarHmm. The wine is being poured. We're having artichokes with garlic butter. That's it. Don't need anything else except perhaps some bread.

(checks mapquest for driving times to DE)

Shit.


GravatarI was thinking of the screaming one a few threads ago.
That looked like a totally new MO to me.


Screaming? Do you mean all caps?

One of the regulars has resorted to that when he feels he's being ignored.


Gravatarseveral pairs of new, holiday-themed socks.

I love Rosie. She's going to rule the world someday, you just wait and see. That young woman is amazing.


GravatarOkay, I'm out.

Enjoy all.


GravatarA major insurer has started varying the pension it pays depending on where you live.

Legal & General says it will now pay higher pensions to people who live in areas where life expectancy is short.

But it denies it will cut pensions paid in areas where people can expect a longer life.

In future, the insurer says it may pay pensions relating to other factors such as obesity and lifestyle.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/progr...box/ 7088656.stm


GravatarBats --
even here I have to go pray -- prolly won't C U 4 over a week -- be good to one another ("death to the trolls!")


GravatarDid you know that feminism killed the Neanderthals? It's true. I read it in Boston Globe.


GravatarWow, sister of ye! That's amazing!

Are you coming to EschaCon again?


GravatarI assure you that there aint a winger alive who's happy my dirty fucking hippie ass survived. So they can take their posturing and blow it out their asses for all I'm concerned.

I love you


GravatarHave a great evening/week, Prior A! Always great to see you!


GravatarI don't love abortion. I do love that abortion is legally.


Gravatarfeminism killed the Neanderthals? It's true. I read it in Boston Globe.

?????????


Gravatarcan the crazies set their sights on another city? we here in NYC are a little sick of all the attention.

Houston's available.


GravatarDid you know that feminism killed the Neanderthals?

Well, they were asking for it.


GravatarI find it hard to get behind the idea that surgical abortion is a good thing. If for no other reason, because it is a highly unpleasant procedure to undergo. I'd prefer to say that abortion is sometimes a necessary thing. If we had a reasonable commitment to providing access to family planning services to women in this country, it would almost never even be that. Between RU486 and the morning after pill, almost every surgical abortion should be preventable.


GravatarDid you know that feminism killed the Neanderthals?

You missed some.


Gravatarmy brother recently bought his daughter Seity a Thomas the Tank engine train station and track, they spent today putting it together and its a big hit

she loves trains, her favorite toy at Chez Moonbooica is a musical train, it has fun sounds and a coo lights

but when you look at the toys, they always have a little boy on the box, when i'm sure little girls love trains just as much


GravatarChris Matthews contrasts grownups and bloggers at the bookfair on c-span2/BookTV. Actually, he has his language somewhat confused as his critique reveals - about how grownups-have-to-meet and bloggers-hide baloney. Like many things, it depends.
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GravatarI've had several D&Cs for miscarriages, and they're not really that bad. A lot less painful than, you know, giving birth.


Gravatar'mout.

Don't forget to liveblog the Iowa JeffJackDay dinner on C-SPAN at 8:30 so I can catch up when I get home.

kthxbai


GravatarConFascists wouldn't abort Osama


GravatarYou missed some.



GravatarMolly, Mlle had one when she miscarried.  Her reaction to the procedure was one of relief.


GravatarI like to think my niece will be brilliant at whatever she does

she is such a bubbly and bright little girl, always chatting and observing what your doing

she is just about getting to that stage than you can have some form of conversation

its fun


GravatarSteve Hadley

The [Bush-Merkel] dinner last night was supposed to go until 8:00 p.m.; I think we broke up after 9:00 p.m., left the dinner table, sat around a circle of chairs, talked about history.


GravatarScreaming? Do you mean all caps?


Yes. I dunno. If you're curious you can go back to the "rhymes with Laci Peterson" thread and check it out. It looks like a new troll to me, but who knows.


GravatarRemember, blerb, that for wingnuts RU-486 is abortion. They don't recognize the distinction.


GravatarI've never understood the wingnut attempts to try to turn Hitler into a liberal. It's just so fucking stupid. It does not make any sense. Also, why are they trashing one of their heroes?


GravatarDennis!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...11/10/17513/ 595

DK: Leave Iraq
HC: Redeploy and out by 2013
DK: Cancel NAFTA
HC: NAFTA si. Peru free trade too.
DK: Patriot Act NO
HC: Patriot Act YES

So, there is a progressive democratic candidate.


GravatarRight, sallyh. Point being: it's not different from surgical abortion, and if we could exclude all the moralistic bullshit, it would be significantly less stressful than a D&C for a miscarriage of a welcome pregnancy.


GravatarI frequent some of the black gossip blogs and quite a few commenters had started raising questions about Jena 6 fundraising a few weeks ago when 5 of the kids attended the BET Hip Hop Awards Show. I recall one poster saying that he/she wanted their money back. Just thought I'd put that out there.


Gravatarfeminism killed the Neanderthals? It's true. I read it in Boston Globe.

?????????


Here.
The New York Times (with a nice picture of how it all happened) joins in here.


GravatarHowza'bout we stop paying our credit card bills for a couple few months? I hear noise about consumer boycotts of places like walmart hurting working people from the likes of Ed Shultz.

Who does it hurt if you stop payments to the credit mafia for that new flatscreen whatever? Not the retailers, they have already been paid. Not the people who stock the shelves, in theory.


GravatarI've never understood the wingnut attempts to try to turn Hitler into a liberal. It's just so fucking stupid. It does not make any sense. Also, why are they trashing one of their heroes?
Toonscribe: Cartoon Liberal | 11.10.07 - 6:20 pm | #

It's "Chicken of the Sea" thinking. NAZI means "socialist", so Chicken of the Sea must mean "Chicken"


Gravatarrootless, change the record, dood.


GravatarRemember, blerb, that for wingnuts RU-486 is abortion. They don't recognize the distinction.
Molly Ivors


Oh, sure. Even the pill,and not the morning after variety either, is abortion in their worldview, since it prevents implantation of an already-fertilized egg. If you include everything that falls under the winger definition, then I suppose I'd say abortion is a good thing too.


GravatarHey kiddies don't forget to give all you have to ActBlue or another organization to elect more Democraps! Sure the war will continue and corporations will still run wild but Markos and Jane will be able to go to more DC parties and isn't that what matters most.



Gravatarwingnuts just cannot seem to accept that fascism is a right wing ideology


GravatarThe toddler is going to marry Rosie. I think they will produce 147 grandkids or so.


GravatarOlvlz's take is here (on Neanderthal feminism). And mine is here.


GravatarMolly, considering how badly her marriage was going, I think the worst thing that could have happened was for the pregnancy to actually complete.


GravatarThe toddler is going to marry Rosie. I think they will produce 147 grandkids or so.

Okay by me. Christmas is going to be a little nuts.


GravatarTweety is breaking me up. "Every whacko -I mean every viewer" ...
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GravatarAmon Ra Bob. Bob, for short. Won't somebody, please to hell take me home?
.


GravatarTrifecta, Hecate and I have arranged for the marriage of our Gorgeous Grandchildren, who will set the world right.

It's going to be one hell of a wedding.  We're planning it already.


Gravatarechidne,

Some days, it's all that I can do not to take a hostage.


GravatarEchidne,
Olvlzl is a great guest blogger, almost worthy of you.

In case I haven't mentioned it.


Gravatarmy nice, the little grublet


GravatarPlease let me make clear that I never said that nobody should get a surgical abortion. I just don't think it's any more a good thing to get one than it is a good thing to get a root canal. Both are unpleasant procedures that are done to avoid even worse things happening.


Gravatar
Well, they were asking for it.


Feminists a better rate than GEICO.


GravatarThe one good thing is that my mom and I became good friends before she died. Going on 20 years, but I still miss her.

But the family dynamics set up with me being the first unwanted kid still echo in the and are much of the reason most of them don't speak to me anymore - not a huge loss, actually.

If I woman isn't in a position where she can handle kids, she shouldn't have them, plain and simple.

If society really wants those kids, they'd set up support systems for the moms, especially where the decision to abort is made for financial reasons. But TPTB forbid that fundies should actually spend their money to support people uncritically, instead of trying to control their intimate decisions.


GravatarMolly Ivors, he is an absolute sweeting. I like the idea of a Maine farmer doing it. And thanks for your kind words.


GravatarTweety does know that bloggers have corporeal form, right? And that they actually meet sometimes?


GravatarDamn Neanderthal women. Burning their elk skin bras and shit, ruining it for everybody.


Gravatar
If I woman isn't in a position where she can handle kids, she shouldn't have them, plain and simple.

If society really wants those kids, they'd set up support systems for the moms, especially where the decision to abort is made for financial reasons.


Amen.


GravatarSo what can I do with this red-hot anger next?


GravatarI like the idea of a Maine farmer doing it.

So do I!


GravatarI know a few fundies who walk the walk and adopt unwanted kids like crazy.

99.9% of them just like pointing their fingers at people.


GravatarEchidne, melt some dark chocolate and dip strawberries in it?


Gravatar Wall Street has already been hit hard by the sub-prime crisis and no one believes that British banks will escape unscathed. But there is huge uncertainty about how severe the pain will be, says Iain Dey

After Stan was canned, Chuck was chucked. Then it looked like Morgan Stanley's John Mack was running the risk of being knifed, following in the footsteps of his peers at Merrill Lynch and Citigroup. Being the chief executive of a Wall Street bank is not much fun these days, thanks to the sub-prime crisis. They are dropping like flies.

Now the pressure is mounting on this side of the Atlantic. Shares in Barclays were falling so fast on Friday that they had to be temporarily suspended by the London Stock Exchange. All manner of rumours were being publicly denied by the bank, yet that didn't stop the slide. Royal Bank of Scotland was also taking a battering as similar tales spooked the market.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money.../ ccbanks111.xml


GravatarBetween RU486 and the morning after pill, almost every surgical abortion should be preventable.
blerb


G_d bless your naivete. May it keep you warm and safe.


GravatarI know a few fundies who walk the walk and adopt unwanted kids like crazy.

Yeah, but then they blame their genetics if the kids don't turn out crazy like them and excoriate them in public.

See: Randall Terry and his gay son Jamiel.


Gravatarif i weren't trying to multitask, that comment would have made sense.


GravatarAuntie GWPDA, bless you!

how is your lovely crystal bowl from Arthur?

And how does Arthur feel about chipotle lime roast chicken?


GravatarSo what can I do with this red-hot anger next?
Echidne


Either build a nice brick wall, or plant several trees. Either will channel the physical anger into something worthwhile. Also, making bread is a good thing.
.


GravatarMy mom was telling me that at a clinic she volunteered for in LA... the majority of the patients were married latina women with multiple kids already.

They had to get abortions behind husband's backs due to Machismo/Catholic church.

RU486 isn't going to help them. What they are supposed to take a dose every night?


GravatarAlso, making bread is a good thing.

Plus, you get to punch it.


GravatarG_d bless your naivete. May it keep you warm and safe.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar


I repaet, I am not one tiny bit arguing that access to surgical abortions should ever be restricted in any way. I'm just saying that our society in particular is doing a piss-poor job of preventing them from being necessary by providing easy access to other options for preventing and/or terminating unwanted pregnancies. Obviously there are some cases where those interventions would not work.


GravatarDid you know that feminism killed the Neanderthals? It's true. I read it in Boston Globe.
Echidne | Homepage | 11.10.07 - 6:14 pm | #

There are still a few of us lurking around, masquerading as modern men.


GravatarPlus, you get to punch it.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 11.10.07 - 6:30 pm | #

Don't Bake Me, Bro!


GravatarI should start baking bread. I have far too much pent-up anger that just isn't in my nature to take out on anyone.


GravatarFor the young women I encounter, there's an idee fixee that sex without birth control is more moral, because it's unplanned.

Fucked. Up.


GravatarIllinois upsets Ohio State 28 - 21.


Gravatar
Plus, you get to punch it.


Battered bread.


GravatarBuckeyes just choked.


GravatarBattered bread.

D'ough!


GravatarDon't Bake Me, Bro!




GravatarWho buys Coulter's books? "Geeky Wall Street guys who carry her book around like it's a machine gun".

Hah!
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GravatarDisney ride founders under weight of obese passengers
By Andrew Gumbel in Los Angeles
Published: 10 November 2007

For 43 years, the happy smiley people at Disneyland have been telling us it's a small world after all. But now, finally, reality has set in.

In January, Southern California's signature theme park will be closing its most famous ride – the one where visitors pile into flat-bottomed boats and go on a shiny plastic water tour of Planet Earth to the strains of that supremely irritating song. The ride has to undergo some renovation.

The reason? Disneyland's visitors have been getting not smaller but bigger, wider and fatter, and the boats on the "It's a Small World" ride have developed an annoying habit of running aground under all the extra weight.

The company itself denies that obesity has anything to do with it: it says the renovation is necessary because a series of fibreglass patches on the bottom of the waterway have created obstacles that need to be cleared.

But visitors, former employees and self-appointed Disney watchers all attest to the frequent occasions on which the boats on "It's a Small World" back up because a vessel carrying more pounds per square inch than anyone could have reasonably envisaged back in 1964 has ground to a halt.


Gravatar
how is your lovely crystal bowl from Arthur?

And how does Arthur feel about chipotle lime roast chicken?

Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


Oh it is LOVELY! A little Waterford tulip bowl - a little bit too little, but otherwise, adorable. Such a good boy, my Arthur. I finished off the pickled onions this afternoon, and tomorrow intend to move on to a nice pepper and onion relish pickle to use up the rest of the vinaigre mixture - so that's good too. Either that or we're preserving pomegranate cranberry relish.

But as it happens, we have a nice bit of lemon chicken in the oven right this minute!


GravatarCrap. My wife is an LSU alum. She will be insufferable for the next week if LSU is #1 in the polls.


GravatarMichigan is now kicking itself.


Gravatar.RU486 isn't going to help them. What they are supposed to take a dose every night?
trifecta


No, only when they discover they are pregnant. RU-486 works late enough in gestation that you can take it for several weeks after you miss a period and get a positive urine test. If it were available free of charge to any woman who requested it at any pharmacy, it could be used in essentially all such cases. But see, you didn't know that. If our society were less stupid, everybody would know that.


Gravatar
D'ough!


No loafin' around for you!


Gravatar
If you're curious you can go back to the "rhymes with Laci Peterson" thread and check it out. It looks like a new troll to me, but who knows.


I just took a look. Not one of the usual trolls, but I think he's popped up before. I stuck his name, Andrew Kruzel, in google and this popped up...

http://www.aznma.com/show.php3?t...ocs/ kruzel.html

I'm think I've seen that webpage before, probably doing the same kind of search after a troll infestation.


GravatarI should make some Dwarf Bread, as in Discworld.


Gravatar.I'm think I've seen that webpage before, probably doing the same kind of search after a troll infestation.
Richard


I see. I guess there is nothing new under the sun.....


GravatarI'm think I've seen that webpage before, probably doing the same kind of search after a troll infestation.
Richard


Yes, we decided he was the same clown who agreed to a match with me, to beat me up right in front of Phoenix PD headquarters ( Or was it Phoenix FD?). A real idjit. It's been years too - someday he will graduate, I'm sure.
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GravatarFor reasons of obesity alleged,
A Disney ride is going to be dredged -
Flat-bottomed boats routinely run aground
By bottoms that were much too wide and round.


GravatarI've always felt the Neanderthals got a raw deal being portrayed as loutish brutes. I'm eagerly awaiting the studies investigating whether Neanderthals and "modern" hummans in fact interbred and that there may be Neanderthal DNA passed on to this very day.


Gravatar
Illinois upsets Ohio State 28 - 21.


I suspect some folks should ought to avoid tall buildings for the next while lest they be tempted to jump.


GravatarI need to see _The Music Man_ again. When do you suppose TCM will show it?
.


GravatarI'm think I've seen that webpage before

He can bend water molecules.


GravatarYay! Our windows have been winterized.

Gosh bless the folks at Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing.

(I keed)


GravatarThere's something funny about "Its a Small World" having to redo itself because people are fatter.


GravatarIllinois upsets Ohio State 28 - 21.

And then there were none.


Gravatar
the good news is my ears are clogged and can barely hear my wife screaming at the tv as osu stinks up the place.


I'm really glad I don't get TV.


GravatarMolly, saddest pregnancy cases were the young girls I met at juvie.  A lot of them were pregnant via nonconsent.  Some were as young as 11.

A lot more has to be done than simply making contraception free and available.  Males of all ages have to get it through their heads that they don't have a right to female bodies.


GravatarI've always felt the Neanderthals got a raw deal being portrayed as loutish brutes. I'm eagerly awaiting the studies investigating whether Neanderthals and "modern" hummans in fact interbred and that there may be Neanderthal DNA passed on to this very day.

You mean like this:

http://www.jqjacobs.net/anthro/ p...eanderthal.html


GravatarMales of all ages have to get it through their heads that they don't have a right to female bodies.

Yep.

And even when consensual, thy still have to wear condoms, even if they don't like them.

It's really not all that complicated.


Gravatar...and David Beckham is in town. I could plunk down two hundred American to have a drink with him tonight.


GravatarAuburn v. Georgia, the refs are Southern fried.

"Pee-enalty own the deefeeance..."


GravatarI LOVE retroactive abortion, especially when it comes to wingnuts/Hannity lovers


Gravatar...and David Beckham is in town. I could plunk down two hundred American to have a drink with him tonight.
Zap Rowsdower


Does he still accept dollars?


GravatarI'm not trying to shirk the male responsibility in the matter of unwanted pregnancies either. Obviously, more action in that quarter would also reduce the number of cases where surgical abortion is the endpoint.


Gravatar"Its bizzzniss timmme..."


GravatarDoes he still accept dollars?

I think he gets paid in haircuts.


Gravatar
Does he still accept dollars?


Krona.

Or some certificates for collagen injection for Posh.


Gravatarits women who are lectured about being 'responsible' and end up blamed for being pregnant but men are not held up to the same standard

i think when it comes to sex education, it should be boys who need to be taught responsibility and respect

like its ok for men to be fucking everything


GravatarWow.  Rudy really IS an assface.

I never noticed that before.


GravatarThe best thing abort abortion is the bucket of Kentucky Fried aborted xian fetus. Enough for the whole family.


GravatarYou mean like this:

http://www.jqjacobs.net/anthro/ p...eanderthal.html
spinoza 66:6 | 11.10.07 - 6:41 pm | #

I love science.


Gravatar
I'm eagerly awaiting the studies investigating whether Neanderthals and "modern" hummans in fact interbred and that there may be Neanderthal DNA passed on to this very day.


From last year...

Humans and Neanderthals interbred
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/814
SYDNEY: Modern humans contain a little bit of Neanderthal, according to a new theory, because the two interbred and became one species.

The theory is the latest addition to the ongoing debate about what happened to this early species of human.

In a paper published this week in the U.S. journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, a team of European researchers report a "mosaic of modern human and archaic Neanderthal features" in 30,000 -year-old human fossils from Romania.

Co-author Erik Trinkaus from Washington University explains: "[Some] closely related species of mammals freely interbreed, produce fertile viable offspring, and blend populations." This is what appears to have happened with Neanderthals and modern humans, he says.


Gravatar"Its bizzzniss timmme..."

(Weeps.)


GravatarIf feminists killed off Neanderthals,
Could we break down some inter-species walls
And maybe clone some women of that clime
From DNA and bring them to our time?
Perhaps they'll show us methods never inked
And made a few Republicans extinct.


Gravatar"I've always felt the Neanderthals got a raw deal being portrayed as loutish brutes."

Cromagnon man stole their smoke.

They even have a Wiki going.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEI...i/ GEICO_Cavemen

It is a crying shame.


Gravatarwhat I meant is that women get rougher treatment by the system than men


GravatarBlerb, there's nothing inherently evil about surgical abortion.  It's actually fairly low risk compared to many procedures.

And when you're dealing with very young girls, they may not even realize they're pregnant until it's way, way too late to contemplate anything else.


GravatarWow. Rudy really IS an assface.

I never noticed that before.



What are those teeth made of?


Gravatarwhy not make vasectomies more affordable and add insentives to get men to go for them?



Gravatarwe're either sluts, bimbos, bitches or frigid


GravatarJasper Fforde has a soft spot for the Neanderthals.


Gravatarwe're either sluts, bimbos, bitches or frigid

There's an NTodd joke in there somewhere...


Gravatartatted, vasectomies are a relatively inexpensive procedure, much less so than tubal ligation.


Gravatar"why not make vasectomies more affordable and add insentives to get men to go for them?"

Get one suture, get two lap dances?

That sort of thing?


GravatarJeez, my spelling goes to hell when I'm drunk. However, this is my designated get drunk day. I've been stressed out, which means my muscle tension has been aggravating my arthritis, so I figured getting shitfaced might help the problem.

No, I won't get into my car. Got enough food at home to feed any munchies. If wisdom doesn't come with age, at least you learn a little bit.


Gravatarwhy not make vasectomies more affordable and add insentives to get men to go for them?

You gotta offer up one hell of an incentive to get a guy to sign on somebody cuttin' on his sack.


Gravatarwe're either sluts, bimbos, bitches or frigid

Only applies to republicans.


GravatarWe've already determined that NTodd is a slut.


Gravatarwe're either sluts, bimbos, bitches or frigid

Well, yes. So we might as well ignore all those judgements, because there is no way of ending up praised.


Gravatar
What are those teeth made of?


Piano keys.


Gravatar
What are those teeth made of?


A space-age polymer, I'm guessing.


Gravatar"What are those teeth made of?"

Recycled teeth found at...

Nope I am not going to go that low.


GravatarAlso from last year, but with a difference conclusion

Scientists decode Neanderthal genes
Material from 38,000-year-old bone fragment being analyzed

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15732243/
No evidence of interbreeding
In popular imagination, Neanderthals are often portrayed as prehistoric brutes who became outsmarted by a more advanced species, humans, emerging from Africa. But excavations and anatomical studies have shown that Neanderthals used tools, wore jewelry, buried their dead, cared for their sick, and possibly sang or even spoke in much the same way that we do. Even more humbling, perhaps, their brains were slightly larger than ours.

The results from the new studies confirm the Neanderthal's humanity, and show that their genomes and ours are more than 99.5 percent identical, differing by only about 3 million bases.

"This is a drop in the bucket if you consider that the human genome is 3 billion bases," said Edward Rubin of the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, who led one of the research teams.

For comparison, the genomes of chimpanzees, our closest living relatives, differ from humans by about 30 million to 50 million base pairs.

The findings also appear to argue against speculations by some scientists that Neanderthals and humans interbred in more recent times. "We see no evidence of mixing 30,000 to 40,000 years ago in Europe," Rubin said. "We don't exclude it, but from the data that we have, we have no evidence that pages were ripped from one genome and put in the other."


GravatarI have no problem with that either. But permanent sterilization is not an appealing option to many people, especially the ones who are most likely to find themselves dealing with or responsible for an unwanted pregnancy. How many men are going to get a vasectomy at 19?


Gravatarwhy not make vasectomies more affordable and add insensitives to get men to go for them?

Thanks, but no thanks....my wife thinks I'm insensitive enough.


GravatarBlerb, I wouldn't advocate for 19 year old males to have vasectomies.

Those that are older and are certain they don't want more kids, sure.


Gravatarany kind of incentive. i had mine when i was 36, and wish i had done it at 12 yrso.


GravatarThat picture is why Rudy can't win.

Too uglee.


GravatarAlso from last year, but with a difference conclusion

Yes. But the conclusions that get the most attention are about feminism killing the Neanderthals. Just wait.

I hate the speculations without evidence, but that's what makes it fun for so many. Like we can all be scientists without bothering to read all those dusty books.


Gravatarany kind of incentive.

A new toaster? A case of beer?


GravatarBlerb, I wouldn't advocate for 19 year old males to have vasectomies.

Those that are older and are certain they don't want more kids, sure.


There's a vas deferens between the two.


GravatarYou gotta offer up one hell of an incentive to get a guy to sign on somebody cuttin' on his sack.
MP


No 18 years of child support payments and wage garnishments for men who adamantly don't want to be "daddy" seems like a pretty good deal to me.


Gravatarany kind of incentive.

A new toaster? A case of beer?


The Russians are doing this in reverse. If you get pregnant you can be in a big lottery with prizes such as refrigerators and cars.


GravatarIf feminism killed the neanderthals, why are there still republicans?


Gravatar
A new toaster? A case of beer?


Craftsman™ Socket Wrench set!


GravatarI'm not trying to shirk the male responsibility in the matter of unwanted pregnancies either. Obviously, more action in that quarter would also reduce the number of cases where surgical abortion is the endpoint.

What is your hangup with surgicial abortions? It's a safe medical procedure. There is nothing morally or ethically wrong with it. Demonizing abortions seems to me to show a willingness to demonize women's bodies. Men are willing to ejaculate a bunch of cells into a vagina and then get all up on two legs and make odd hooting noises when women say they want to have some unwanted set of cells ejaculated out of their bodies.


GravatarYou gotta offer up one hell of an incentive to get a guy to sign on somebody cuttin' on his sack.
MP | 11.10.07 - 6:48 pm | #

Actually had a vasectomy in 1985. The incentive was that my wife was pregnant with our third child in less than three years. I felt it was my responsibility to take care of it. I did not want her to use the pill for health reasons. Later, when we decided we wanted another child, we chose to adopt.


GravatarBut permanent sterilization is not an appealing option to many people

Vasectomies can be reversed.


GravatarA new toaster? A case of beer?

Craftsman™ Socket Wrench set!

watertiger


A lifetime supply of Valium.


Gravatarget all up on two legs and make odd hooting noises

I love you.


Gravatarthanks Richard. I know there was newer stuff on interbreeding but could not find it.


Gravatar"Two minutes in heaven is bettah than one minute in heaven"


Gravatar
Yes. But the conclusions that get the most attention are about feminism killing the Neanderthals. Just wait.


What comes to mind is that story a few weeks back about some idiot speculating that the human race was going to diverge into two species, one pretty, one ugly.

How the fuck can you know that?


GravatarThere is a reversable vasectomy in the works that doesn't involve all that scary cutting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IVD

The intra vas device, analogous to the intrauterine device (IUD) for women, is meant to be a reversible alternative to a vasectomy. The device consists of a set of flexible, hollow silicone plugs, each about a millimetre in diameter and 2.5 cm long. The IVDs are inserted into the vas deferens and block the flow of sperm from the testes to the seminal glands.

Doesn't sounds too bad. I'd be up for one of them if I had any need for it.


GravatarEven my wingnut brother had a vasectomy after two kids.


Gravatarget all up on two legs and make odd hooting noises

I love you.


Geesh, I make odd hooting noises all the time...


GravatarEven my wingnut brother had a vasectomy after two kids.
Toonscribe: Cartoon Liberal


The too many kids thing decides it pretty quickly.


Gravatarcurrently the book I'm reading is titled Bitches, Bimbos and Virgins: Women in the Horror Film by Gary J Svehla and Susan Svehla


GravatarTo give my six brothers credit, several of them have had vasectomies. Being part of a family of 10 kids shows you the benefits of family planning.

I really do think that if the Pill had come along a few years earlier, there would've been a few less of us, the Pope bedamned.


GravatarMen are willing to ejaculate a bunch of cells into a vagina and then get all up on two legs and make odd hooting noises when women say they want to have some unwanted set of cells ejaculated out of their bodies.

Seems to me the man's choices are pretty damn simple. 1) use condoms faithfully or 2) have a vasectomy and 3) choose a romantic partner among the tens of millions of women in America who are at a place in their lives where they don't want to get pregnant and have a baby.


Gravatar"Pee-enalty own the deefeeance..."
MP


It's like music to my ears.

I hope the Bengal Tigers survive the carnage that is the SEC to line up against the OSU Buckeyes in the BCS Championship.


GravatarThe IVDs are inserted into the vas deferens and block the flow of sperm from the testes to the seminal glands.

But the massive buildup of sperm will contribute to global warming!


Gravatarharry reid is a FUCKING LOSER.


GravatarSpinoza, maybe we can have National Sperm Release Day, and then convert the spoils into alternative fuels.  (ducks)


GravatarGeesh, I make odd hooting noises all the time...

We're not talking about masturbation time.


Gravatar
Geesh, I make odd hooting noises all the time...


Mlle doesn't care about the hooting noises.  It's the farting in bed that kills it for her.


GravatarI really do think that if the Pill had come along a few years earlier, there would've been a few less of us, the Pope bedamned.
sister of ye


I don't know, the early Pill had some problems, as I am here to report. (Hi Mom!)


GravatarYay! Our windows have been winterized.

Gosh bless the folks at Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing.

(I keed)
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 11.10.07 - 6:40 pm |


Me, too, though only partially.

Hopefully, I will finish tomorrow.

If only the landlord would spring for new windows.


GravatarStinky, yep, Mlle was on the pill when she conceived both her living and miscarried fetuses.


Gravatar.What is your hangup with surgicial abortions? blah blah blah....spinoza 66:6

Why don't you try reading what I actually wrote before you make a comment like that? I don't have any kind of hangup about surgical abortions. My own wife has had one, with my whole-hearted concurrence in the matter. I'm demonizing them? Where the hell did you get that from? Sure, it's a relatively safe surgical procedure, but it still sucks to have to get one. herefore, it would be good to make a real effort as a society to increase the availability of other, less unpleasant options, like free RU-486 or maybe for some of us castrating all the males at birth. That. Is. All. I. Am. Saying. Sheesh!


GravatarU.S. near bottom among modernized nations for infant death
http://www.yahoo.com/s/732751

But we have the world's best health care.


GravatarStinky, yep, Mlle was on the pill when she conceived both her living and miscarried fetuses.

Antibiotics destroy the ability of the pill to prevent pregnancies.


GravatarSpinoza, maybe we can have National Sperm Release Day, and then convert the spoils into alternative fuels. (ducks)

How many microwatts do you think those flagellum produce per ejaculate? BTW don't tell Moe about this. He will write a newspaper story and encourage Canadians to whack off.


GravatarBut we have the world's best health care.

And everyone has access to emergency rooms!


GravatarI've winterized my house here in the San Fernando Valley -- the air conditioner is turned off and the sliding door to the patio is open.


GravatarWell, the baby of my family (God rest her soul) gave birth to the niece that is currently living with me, so that is good. Great kid, and doesn't seem to mind sleeping on my couch too much.

Though calling her a kid is probably patronizing (she's 22), but at 52 it does seem young.


GravatarIt's the farting in bed that kills it for her.

I generally avoid that. Kayla, on the other hand...


GravatarAnti-arms campaigners have won a judicial review of last year's decision by the Serious Fraud Office to end its investigations into the defence company BAE's contracts with Saudi Arabia.

The judgment will be hugely embarrassing to the Government, which opposed the review and has consistently backed the SFO's decision to drop the case.

Yesterday two High Court judges granted an application from the Campaign Against the Arms Trade and Corner House for the right to mount a full challenge to the SFO, which in December last year dropped an inquiry into allegations that BAE had made secret payments to Saudi officials in order to secure a series of massive contracts.


http://news.independent.co.uk/ bu...icle3146477.ece


GravatarShoppers eager to buy goods on sale stampeded at a Carrefour supermarket in southwestern China on Saturday, trampling three people to death and injuring at least 31, state media reported.

Shoppers slipped as they rushed through a door at the Carrefour in Chongqing city at 8:30 a.m. to snap up sale items, and those that fell were then crushed by other shoppers, the Web sites of the Xinhua News Agency and People's Daily reported.

The People's Daily said the shoppers had lined up outside the store since 4 a.m. to buy discounted rapeseed oil used for cooking.

(They are becoming more americanized each day.)


GravatarI've winterized my house here in the San Fernando Valley -- the air conditioner is turned off and the sliding door to the patio is open.



Seeing that this is my first winter in my own home, I'm not sick of it yet.


GravatarToons, we did the same


GravatarAntibiotics destroy the ability of the pill to prevent pregnancies.

Is that right? I did not know that. Any idea what the mechanism is?


GravatarAnd everyone has access to emergency rooms!

Abortions, abortions,
I love ya, abortions
You just a cab ride away...

L'il Orphan Joey


GravatarI have never heard of such a thing, but I suppose it's not impossible. I imagine it would only be one particualr class of antibiotics, though.


GravatarSpinoza, penicillin based antibiotics do seem to inhibit the release of progesterone in oral contraceptives, but the mechanism isn't well understood.


GravatarLadies: Do you ever have that "not so fresh" feeling?


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GravatarToons, we did the same

Summers can be like living in an oven, but I looooove the winters out here.


Gravataryou = you're




GravatarAntibiotics destroy the ability of the pill to prevent pregnancies.

Is that right? I did not know that. Any idea what the mechanism is?


Antibiotics destroy the little demons living in your body that ordinarily eat the fetuses.


GravatarSpork, only when the trolls come around.


GravatarAll I've heard is the warning to use condoms while on antibiotics.


GravatarSallyh-So antibiotics can also possibly interfere with menstrual cycles? If so I would love to know if there is comparative research. Antibiotics on cows and chickens could inhibit fertilization. And antibiotics that get out into the wild could disrupt seasonal breeding cycles.


GravatarI have never heard of such a thing, but I suppose it's not impossible. I imagine it would only be one particualr class of antibiotics, though.
blerb


It's true. Some anti-depressants prevent the pill from working also.


GravatarToons, I admit it.  I love summer in the Valley.

I think I was a greenhouse plant in a former life.  Or a tumbleweed.


GravatarLadies: Do you ever have that "not so fresh" feeling?

What the copywriter was thinking:

"Ladies, were you ridden hard and put away wet?"

I swear, the industry that has been built around the "evil" of human scent.


GravatarSalah al-Din, Nov 10, (VOI) – Twenty-three gunmen were killed in violent clashes between warring armed factions east and south of the city of Samarra, an official security source in Salah al-Din province said on Saturday.

"Gunmen from the Islamic Army Organization attacked positions of the al-Qaeda Organization in Iraq in the villages of Banat al-Hassan, al-Mutasem and al-Jalam, south and east of Samarra, on Friday evening and Saturday morning," the source told the independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI) on condition of anonymity.

"According to information available so far, 18 gunmen of al-Qaeda were killed and 16 others arrested by fighters of the Islamic Army Organization," the source said.


http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m3808...&hd=&size=1& l=e


GravatarNow the vasectomy itself..that was another story....we were recommended a doctor by my wifes midwife as she was preparing to deliver our third. I went in for a consult to discover that the doctor was a woman. That's OK I thought (She had chosen this calling because she felt theat men should shoulder some of the responsibility and she had performed more than 10,000 vasectomies.) Good very experienced. As I sat in her office I noticed some odd collages of photos on her office walls of people that appeared naked.

Flash forward to the day of the outpatient procedure. Her assistant was a very Gay male. Again, no problem I'm liberal and tolerant. They asked if I wanted to watch and I said no. Throughout the surgery they made little jokes about slipping etc.

My recovery was difficult. I had extreme bleeding and swelling (they were the size of grapefruit). It took weeks to fully recover. When comparing notes with friends and aquaintences, mine seemed far worse than anyone elses experience.

Flash forward six months....my wife calls me at work and says that I will never guess who is on Oprah. Needless to say I can't and she chimes in that it is the doctor who performed my vasectomy. (Makes sense, talking about birth control no doubt.)

"No" she says, "the topic is about radical feminist lesbian nudist lifestyles."

To this day I think the two of them had been beating on my manhood. I only recommend her to people I don't like.

(True Story)


Hey, NTodd would you like a vasectomy?


GravatarAntibiotics destroy the ability of the pill to prevent pregnancies.

Ann Coulter is a very effective back-up method.


Gravatarman, i'm not firing on all cylinders.

human = female.




GravatarSpinoza, I'll find you some; I don't know about veterinary research in that regard, but I'm sure there has to be something out there.

Just about any medication can interfere with menstrual cycles; positive feedback systems seem more easily disrupted than negative ones.


GravatarWT, I think alcohol would cure your problems.


GravatarOK, Bonus Critter Blogging is up.

Warning: this one broke my heart.


GravatarToons, I admit it. I love summer in the Valley.

It's really not so bad as long as we don't have too many days in a row above 100. But I miss summer afternoon thunderstorms like we used to get in Tennessee.

Of course, the last couple of years, they haven't been getting them so much in TN either.


GravatarHow many microwatts do you think those flagellum produce per ejaculate?

There won't be any watts in the ejaculate
Provided the conception is immaculate.


GravatarWT, I think alcohol would cure your problems.

Nah.  That just makes me more useless.




GravatarI swear, the industry that has been built around the "evil" of human scent.

Teevee has taught me that women smell bad and they orgasm whilst washing their hair.

So who is going to tell me that teevee isn't educational?


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GravatarThere won't be any watts in the ejaculate
Provided the conception is immaculate.


Jesus jizm
is better than fission


GravatarOk, the stupidest fucking guy on the planet might be Cliff May.

This is a blogpost at the cornhole.

Ah, Yes, I Remember It Well [Cliff May]
Page 1 of today's Wall Street Journal notes Michael Mukasey being sworn in as attorney general and adds that the former judge inherits a Justice Department that "is struggling to restore its independent image."

Would that be the independent image it had when Jan Reno held the office?


Dear fucking God. Reno was always agreeing to special prosecutors and doing her own thing. Are these people high or stupid?


Gravatar
OK, Bonus Critter Blogging is up.


Anyone remember a cereal called Crispy Critters?


GravatarAre these people high or stupid?

Yes.


GravatarWatertiger, I meant my comment the other day - I love your site. Thanks for giving us such a perfect opportunity to snark.

Another story re my niece (not my only niece, but the one I'm closest to) -- her boyfriend was taking steroids for a blood disorder, and my sister said they assumed it had affected his fertility. Of course, she also said they only had sex once, not totally impossible when you come from a family of 10 kids, but unlikely.


Gravatarspork I think you need to get out more.


GravatarRichard, I loved Crispy Critters!

"The one and only cereal that comes in shapes of animals."


GravatarAnyone remember a cereal called Crispy Critters?

Yep. Made by Post, IIRC.


GravatarMickey Kaus would get aroused by this..

1980's Crispy Critters Cereal Commercial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7...h? v=7bmIKrU2jQU


GravatarI miss King Vitamin.

Actually, I don't. Reminds me being poor (WIC-approved cereal).


GravatarAll the Crispy Critters you can afford!


GravatarWatertiger, this will please you:  MacFrugal's carries ScentStories for .78/pop.


Gravatarway OT and at the shallow end: Kylie Minogue has revealed that she would be keen to make a return appearance to Dr Who.

The popstar, who will make a guest appearance on the upcoming Christmas special, has admitted that if the opportunity arose she would love to star on the programme again.

Minogue told WENN: "It's not up to me but I know there has been talk that my character could be reintroduced at a later date. We'll have to wait and see."


http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult...-to-dr- who.html


GravatarWe don't want endless occupation of Iraq, they don't hear us. We don't want a war with Iran, they don't hear us. We want an energy policy that admits we have hit peak oil and our planet is in peril. They don't hear us.

We max our credit cards this season and then not pay, all together and in solidarity, in january, in febuary, in march, in april....they will hear us.


Gravatarsister of ye,

you're a big part of it!


GravatarThe kind of commercials that were playing when I was eating the stuff...

Orange Moose! 1960s cereal commercial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S...h? v=SN3WCnBAdrc


Gravatar1980's Crispy Critters Cereal Commercial

Is the boy in that Mikey from the Life cereal commercial? Looks like him to me.


GravatarHow much will it cost to get the stench of deserting coward out of Air Force One?


GravatarSheets, in which I will hopefully have the good sense not to wade into any pointless hot-button debates.


Gravatarwe're either sluts, bimbos, bitches or frigid
Moonbootica, Der Rosenkavalier


No, you most certainly are not, my dearie. Don't even begin to place yourself within that continuum as an attempt to explain. You. Are. Not. You are yourself, and you are all that is necessary. There is not one single 'category', other than good and clever and sweet that you need to identity with, ever. I am an old woman and I promise you that this is the truth.
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GravatarIs the boy in that Mikey from the Life cereal commercial? Looks like him to me.

I think it was Tucker Carlson.


Gravatarowls!!!!!!!!


Gravatarspork I think you need to get out more.

Too true, too true...

Anyway, since I get all of my teevee off of the Intertubes now I don't see commercials.

That said, whatever happened to commercial jingles?

Those of us of a certain age can still sing the Oscar Meyer Weiner song. Today, it's all pop music.

I want a good jingle. Is that too much to ask for?


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Gravatarfuck abc radio for employing mouth-breathers


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