I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Gravatarhah!


Gravataras much time as i've spent around here the last couple days ...


Gravataralthough it is lonely.


Gravatarsigh


Gravatarnobody loves me, i guess


Gravatarthink i'll go eat worms


Gravatarmaybe i'll go read my blog. no one else does.


GravatarParody runs in the family.


Gravatari've never got 10 in a row. is that a strike?


Gravatarwhew! i'd begun to think i'd missed the holocost!


GravatarNobody blows a goat quite like Howie Kurtz.


Gravataror maybe wt and i are the only survivors, and will be forced to repopulate...


Gravatarok, a three-way.


GravatarDirk, that has to be a record. OR maybe the first time Atrios posted and all the commenters were is SO.


Gravatarok, a three-way.
dirk gently


I don't think it'd be fair to pass my genes on to the next generation.


GravatarDirk, that has to be a record. OR maybe the first time Atrios posted and all the commenters were is SO.
Bad Art | 04.21.07 - 4:23 pm | #


i guess the honorable thing to do is go call the owls ... brb


GravatarI don't think it'd be fair to pass my genes on to the next generation.
SteveNS | 04.21.07 - 4:23 pm | #


and i've been "fixed"

(don't tell wt)


GravatarLet the Righties bask in this dumb shit all they want. Let them all sign their name to the forever proclamation that they really do believe this stuff and then pull their pants down to show their little weenies and weenettes.


GravatarAnd these are the people who laugh at the 9/11 conspiracy theorists...


GravatarI'm so bummed that Alec Baldwin is a nutcase and a mean daddy. I love him on 30 Rock!


GravatarI actuallt had a post done last night about this Gaubatz guy, but I had a system crash and lost it. He's the one who inspired Crazy Curt Weldon's abortive secret spy trip to Iraq -- remember that?

Gaubatz also believes that Islamists are plotting to kill our children by infiltrating American school buses and are plotting to sneak nuclear weapons into our sewer systems. And that even though the Va Tech killer wasn't a Muslim, the lesson of the Va Tech killings is to clamp down on Muslims.

I'm not making any of that up.


GravatarSo sad that in this day and age, fine writers like Greenwald feel the need to comment on the ravings of the loonies which inhabit the world of Melanie, beyond the remark of, "These people are fucking nuts."

The entrenchment of complete lunatics in our government is so deep, that the really good politcal journalists of our time have to spend there time decontructing utter horseshit.

What a waste. I can't wait until the people with at least a passing relationship to reality are back in charge.


GravatarAs gun ownership approaches infinity, crime rates approach zero.


GravatarI think everyone went over to FDL to contribute to Dr. Wulsin.

At least, that's what I want to think, and I'm not letting anyone stop me.

~


GravatarGoddessblogging.


Gravatarso, no registring guns but a database of muslim daycares?

that makes sense.


GravatarAs gun ownership approaches infinity, crime rates approach zero.
john lott | 04.21.07 - 4:27 pm | #


as does the population.


GravatarSurprising.


GravatarI'm not making any of that up.
Thers | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 4:27 pm | #


Remember the good old days when you would have need to make shit up. Now it's just in constant supply.


GravatarHello CNN, I really wanna know what Ted Nugent thinks about all this!
Wango Tango PoonTango!
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GravatarDon't volunteer.
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GravatarThe project to which Dave Gaubatz is currently devoting his time is called "Mapping Sharia in America", the purpose of which is to create a comprehensive map of every mosque and Islamic school in the U.S.

Required reading for every fucking brownshirt nutcase with an arsenal at his disposal, I'm sure...


Gravatarso, no registring guns but a database of muslim daycares?

that makes sense.


Does to him. He has a long explanation of why all Muslims want to kill all Americans. The guy really is a total maniac.


GravatarGO RED WINGS!


GravatarBe in touch with us by sending in tips on new mosques, Islamic day schools, and the like. There is no crime in keeping tabs on these organizations but it is a crime of indifference to pretend that the Jihadists walking down your streets and preaching to the faithful are not a threat to our national existence and existence simply!

This afternoon, I saw a woman walking down the sidewalk with a scarf over her head.

She was pretty brown, so she could have been an Islamofascist. Or Korean. Or worse, both.

Preferring to err on the side of caution, I pushed her in front of a transfer truck.

You're welcome.


GravatarI'm going to get a bunch of witches together and we're going to map every evangelical church and school in America, identify their leaders, describe what they teach and publish the information.

Countdown to Christianist heads asploding amid screams of persecution in 5, 4, 3, 2, . . ..


GravatarTime to map out all the christian fundamentalist schools while we're at it. Jesus, that guy is insane.

dirk, I like that you were talking to yourself. I find I do that sometimes too.


GravatarWhy are any of these people not considered kooks when that is all they are?


Can we please get rid of this media?

I can't wait for Moyers' special.


Gravatarso, no registring guns but a database of muslim daycares?

that makes sense.


It's not like there's an amendment protecting religion...


GravatarHecate, here's a special stoli for you. Cheers.


GravatarBe in touch with us by sending in tips on new mosques, Islamic day schools, and the like. There is no crime in keeping tabs on these organizations

I say we all send him the address of our local fundie church. If he ever complains, we can say that all those Abrahamic monotheistic sects look alike to us.


GravatarI'm going to get a bunch of witches together and we're going to map every evangelical church and school in America, identify their leaders, describe what they teach and publish the information.

Countdown to Christianist heads asploding amid screams of persecution in 5, 4, 3, 2, . . ..
Hecate


I'll fucking help you - and we can fill in the divorce statistics and other pertinent info.


GravatarSlowly the light turns on. About the previous post, wasn't Cunningham the first fruits of Abramoff and Ney brought down by that gold coin nonsense?


GravatarHave you read what Lee Iococca (yeah. the Chrysler guy) is saying about Bush? It's damn good. In fact i'm wondering if he read this blog! It seems he wrote a book just to blast Bush.

http://americablog.blogspot.com/...-cheney- as.html


Gravatarwe can fill in the divorce statistics

Oooh, I love it. And how many of their ministers have been arrested for pedophilia.


GravatarNobody blows a goat quite like Howie Kurtz. - SteveNS

Ole!


Gravatarup from below

In Delaware we are inundated with former Tom Carper staffers. They have bounced from his office to the County Executive's office, to the state house etc. a real door-opener. Recently, Carper's Chief of Staff left for a lobbyist position on K Street.
Carper bragged about this move in his press release: now is the time to get into lobbying, with the DEMs in power.

Sick fucking mother fucker.
That shit is what got the DEMs thrown out of power in the first place and has the GOPers on the run now.

Carper is a top tier DLC and it shows.

Now off for more gardening or weeding actually. yes, with some weed smoking too.


GravatarSomethings deserve an encore...
Over at FOXNews TOP Video, Laura Bush.
I can't bear to watch it.

"The first lady sits down with FOX and does something she hasn’t done in six years"

I'm guessing she changed the batteries in her Pocket Rocket!

http://www.foxnews.com/
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Oooh, I love it. And how many of their ministers have been arrested for pedophilia.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Well, now, sure you're gonna have enough books to hold all those names?

Where I live I know of three evangelical churches/schools within five minute drive of my house. They're thick all around.


GravatarCountdown to Christianist heads asploding amid screams of persecution in 5, 4, 3, 2, . . ..
Hecate


That's exactly what I was thinking. If anyone made a list of Christian churches they'd scream bloody murder.


GravatarBe in touch with us by sending in tips on new mosques, Islamic day schools, and the like. There is no crime in keeping tabs on these organizations but it is a crime of indifference to pretend that the Jihadists walking down your streets and preaching to the faithful are not a threat to our national existence and existence simply!

They are begging people to help them start a Jihad against Islam. All Islam. I do not understand why the MSM treats them as serious people - unless the MSM is also anti-Islam.

But I've had all this I can take - I am fed up with this bullshit - this is a call to genocide. Call what it is.


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Be in touch with us by sending in tips on new mosques, Islamic day schools, and the like.


I guess the abortion clinic bombers are gearing up for new targets.


GravatarThe Big Book of Hypocrisy
The True Story of Rightwing Religious Loons in America

By Tena and Hecate


GravatarVermont is the best state (yes, even with NTodd in it)


Vermont pushes bid to impeach Bush

The senate in the northeastern US state of Vermont passed a resolution Friday calling on Congress to begin impeachment proceedings against President George W. Bush, senate officials said.

The largely symbolic move, which stands little chance of going much further, was approved by 16 votes to nine and followed a public rally this week in the state capital Montpelier calling for Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney to go.

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/ Ver...h_04202007.html


Gravatar"The first lady sits down with FOX and does something she hasn’t done in six years"

I watched.

Trust me, she was faking it.


GravatarOooh, I love it. And how many of their ministers have been arrested for pedophilia.
Hecate,


I think every motherfucker who has been exposed for his hypocrisy needs to be on that map - course it will take up most of the room -


Gravatar If anyone made a list of Christian churches they'd scream bloody murder.

I already have one for my region that is automatically updated every year.

I think they call it a P-H-O-N-E-B-O-O-K



Gravatarhttp://www.foxnews.com/
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Agent Orange

you are insane if you think we're gonna click on this link.


Gravatar"....does something she hasn’t done in six years"
prunes I tell ya prunes or lose Shrub


GravatarMmmmmmmmm... cake!


GravatarApparently one of the Blue Angels crashed in Beaufort at an air show.

Several houses are supposedly on fire.


GravatarVermont pushes bid to impeach Bush

You coulda linked to me...


Gravatar"The first lady sits down with FOX and does something she hasn’t done in six years"

I so don't want to know.


GravatarHave you read what Lee Iococca (yeah. the Chrysler guy) is saying about Bush

I did and I failed wholly to follow up:

GLOATgloatGLOATgloatGLOATgloatGLOATgloatGLOAT...


I've known any number of older people, mostly Repug voters, who practically worship Iacocca. IF any of them are still alive, this may have an effect.

It's a thing of beauty, regardless, AFAIC.


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If anyone made a list of Christian churches they'd scream bloody murder.


You'd almost certainly be getting a knock at your door from the FBI.


GravatarI'm going to get a bunch of witches together and we're going to map every evangelical church and school in America, identify their leaders, describe what they teach and publish the information.

You could start here.

Can we include the home-schooled christianists, too? I think that would be extra-fun!


Gravatar
HOUSTON, Texas — The shooter in an apparent murder-suicide at Johnson Space Center had received a poor job review and feared being fired, police said Saturday.

William Phillips, 60, smuggled a snub-nosed revolver into the space center Friday and barricaded himself in a building that houses communications and tracking systems for the space shuttle, officials said.

Phillips, a contract worker, confronted a superior, David Beverly, 62, in Beverly's office about his performance review, police said. After talking with Beverly for several minutes, Phillips shot him twice and left. He returned and shot Beverly two more times, police said.

Williams duct-taped a woman to a chair, holding her for hours, police said. Officers freed her after hearing the gunshot that killed Phillips.

Houston Police Chief Harold Hurtt said Phillips bought a .38-caliber revolver last month, two days after receiving an e-mail that his job performance was going to be reviewed.

The woman hostage, identified by NASA as Fran Crenshaw, a contract worker with MRI Technologies, worked in the same general area.


What's all this bullshit again about criminals being the only ones who'll be able to get guns?


GravatarNot a list, A MAP identifying just which loonies are where.

And by god, I'd like to provoke the motherfuckers into a fight-


GravatarYou coulda linked to me...
NTodd

NTodd, i linked to you 3 times this week and you didn't even acknowledge. So, pffffff


GravatarApparently one of the Blue Angels crashed in Beaufort at an air show.

Several houses are supposedly on fire.
Snow, Propter Hoc


Sad to happen, and on a day perfect for flying.


GravatarBut I've had all this I can take - I am fed up with this bullshit - this is a call to genocide. Call what it is.


The lunatics are planning a sequel to Nuremberg, Germany.


GravatarVermont pushes bid to impeach Bush

The senate in the northeastern US state of Vermont passed a resolution Friday calling on Congress to begin impeachment proceedings against President George W. Bush, senate officials said.


That's funny, cause it's the northeastern portion of VT that has been settled by Fundies. The "NE Kingdom" is almost more nutz than the entire state of New Hampster. So Bush has really got to be less popular than the little wiggly bugs under rocks.


GravatarWhat's all this bullshit again about criminals being the only ones who'll be able to get guns?

Well, he was a criminal...

NTodd, i linked to you 3 times this week and you didn't even acknowledge. So, pffffff

Like I see every comment here!


GravatarIt just pisses me off beyond belief that they're including daycare centers. Cuz you know that list is an open invitation to some whackjob with a gun. Daycare centers. Kali on a cracker. Wasn't there a daycare center in the Murrow Building? What is it with these creeps and daycare centers? Can't we even leave the little kids alone?


GravatarHalloo again. Friends have moved on. I may not be here long as I've just had some of my spiffy new hydrocodone-flavored cough syrup, mmmmmm. Good fer knocking a body out.


GravatarThe Iacocca thing could really be influential, I'm thinking. He seems to have quite a following with a certain kind of old white Republican guy, as Tena mentioned downthread.

Definitely he's something of a demi-god in my (Italian) family. Everybody had to read his autobiography, or risk being disowned


GravatarThe lunatics are planning a sequel to Nuremberg, Germany.
genoasail


O they just think they are and what gets me is the media plays along with this fantasy.

It's somewhat less of a fantasy in that we do have Muslims locked up among other immigrants in privately owned concentration camps right now. But people aren't just sitting still for it, either.


GravatarLike I see every comment here!
NTodd

you were present the 3 times i posted your links. You just don't read us, babe. You just pretend to!


GravatarWilliam Phillips, 60, smuggled a snub-nosed revolver into the space center Friday

I guess Homeland Security was too busy making old ladies take their shoes off at airports and confiscating tubes of lip gloss.


GravatarMena, enjoy your nap.


Gravatar hydrocodone-flavored cough syrup,

You sippin' sizzyrup.

Mix it with alcohol, it's " that purple drank."

!

They call that getting screwed, down hyeah.


GravatarApparently one of the Blue Angels crashed in Beaufort at an air show.


RPG attack?


GravatarYea Plum, NTodd only looks into his hand mirror when he isn't typing.


GravatarIt just pisses me off beyond belief that they're including daycare centers. Cuz you know that list is an open invitation to some whackjob with a gun. Daycare centers. Kali on a cracker. Wasn't there a daycare center in the Murrow Building? What is it with these creeps and daycare centers? Can't we even leave the little kids alone?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


We have a large mosque and school near where we currently live. It is constantly getting picketed by fundie loons and receives a great deal of very vile anonymous mail. A neighbor whose family attends has said repeatedly that her children won't attend the school because of the possible danger.


GravatarI hope Our flory appreciates the fact that today I also bought a brand new jar of Haggerty's silver polish, which I intend to exhaust to-morrow.
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GravatarDave Gaubatz,public enemy number one!


GravatarWilliam Phillips, 60, smuggled a snub-nosed revolver into the space center Friday

I guess Homeland Security was too busy making old ladies take their shoes off at airports and confiscating tubes of lip gloss.


It's not like he was doing, you know, rocket science or anything . . ..


GravatarCan't we even leave the little kids alone?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Future terrorists. The Nazis have taught us that it's alright to kill children that have the taint of the other in them.

I'm sorry, did I just call down the evocation of Godwin's Law or Murphy's Law or whatever it is about comparing people to Hitler?


GravatarWilliam Phillips, 60, smuggled a snub-nosed revolver into the space center Friday

How on Earth you can prevent that on a sprawling site like that is beyond me.
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GravatarOh, and Judgement at Nuremburg is on TCM now.


GravatarI guess Homeland Security was too busy making old ladies take their shoes off at airports and confiscating tubes of lip gloss.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator

I've had my car searched only once by NASA security. At 3:30 AM on a Saturday evening. I was rushing in to fix a server problem and they grabbed me on the way out. Outside of that random search, NASA security is a bit of a joke.


GravatarThe lunatics are planning a sequel to Nuremberg, Germany.
genoasail

O they just think they are and what gets me is the media plays along with this fantasy.



Wait a minute.

If they announce it, and the media reports it,does it then not become so?


Gravatarso Iaccoca will be making all the shows promoting his book in the next few weeks, from Colbert to Letterman, The View to Larry King. And that's going to be his message: Bush is a weak leader (his book is named "Where Have All the Leaders Gone?").

that's cool Lee, very cool!


GravatarHAWAII VOLCANOES NATIONAL PARK, Hawaii (AP) -- Rangers at Hawaii Volcanoes National Park are launching a program to stop people from leaving religious offerings at the summit of Mount Kilauea -- including food they say attracts rats and cockroaches.

Visitors leave 45 pounds of offerings from Halemaumau Crater each week, including flowers, bottles, money, incense, candles and crystals, park rangers say.

But food offerings are the most problematic, they say.

"The accumulation of rotting food and foliage attracts rats, flies, ants and cockroaches," a park statement said.

One ranger recently found a whole, cooked piglet replete with a papaya, orange and apple in a cardboard box, the park service said.

The rotting offerings pose a hazard to the endangered nene goose, the state bird endemic to the islands, the park service said.

People also burn fake money which in Chinese culture is meant to aid people in the afterlife. Such fires are illegal, the park statement said.

Park Superintendent Cindy Orlando said the park must preserve the summit area, which has special significance in Hawaiian culture.

Some Hawaiians believe lava is the physical representation of the fire goddess Pele, making the volcano summit sacred.

"We look to our partners and local communities to assist us in communicating the value of resource protection and cultural sensitivity," Orlando said.


GravatarThere's a Nuremberg movie with Brian Cox as Goering which is supposed to be first rate

The Firefly episode, Ariel, was fantastic (but you knew that)

Usually security for employees tends to be lax


Gravatar"A neighbor whose family attends has said repeatedly that her children won't attend the school because of the possible danger."
--left rev.

Great way to win friends and influence people...


GravatarThey call that getting screwed, down hyeah.
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There's so many ways to go with that I think I'll just let it lay there.

Can't we even leave the little kids alone?

When have we ever done that?


Gravatar"Be in touch with us by sending in tips on new mosques, Islamic day schools, and the like. There is no crime in keeping tabs on these organizations"

I wonder if this would count as stalking.


Gravatarthat's cool Lee, very cool!
Plum P


Actually, it's sad that it took Lee years, and a book tour, pimping himself, that he finally came out. Johnny-come-latelys don't deserve praise or support.


GravatarAfternoon, all.

Off to Gomorrah-on-the-Hudson for my traditional Saturday night quaffing of elitist chardonnay with my satanic commie pals.

Talk to you all later this evening, j'espere.


Gravatar"It's not like he was doing, you know, rocket science or anything . . ..
Supreme Commander Thor | 04.21.07 - 4:48 pm | # "

Good one (even if based on a New Yorker cartoon -- maybe most humor is)


GravatarChrist, what's wrong with these people?

19 religious fanatics with box cutters pull off the (nearly) impossible, and their brains just turn to fizzing foam - for years, and years, and years. 5+ years after 9/11, they're champing at the bit to herd people into cattle cars.

I wonder whether Republicans will be able to recognize the grotesque, misshapen, red-eyed monsters they will find in their mirrors after Bush is gone - these goose-stepping apologists for empire, torture, unprovoked murder, and aggressive war who, once upon a time, concerned themselves chiefly with cracker barrel bullshit like 'small government,' fiscal responsibility, and property rights?


GravatarActually, it's sad that it took Lee years, and a book tour, pimping himself, that he finally came out. Johnny-come-latelys don't deserve praise or support.
General Zod

at the point we're at, better late than never.


GravatarRangers at Hawaii Volcanoes National Park are launching a program to stop people from leaving religious offerings at the summit of Mount Kilauea --

Have'nt they done that for generations? Is it not part of their religion?

What's good for the goose is certainly not good for the gander with these fascist xtians. They have gone past obnoxious into the realm of impossible.


GravatarSo I just miss steve simels -- well, enjoy yourself!


GravatarLeaving offerings at volcanoes is a religious act. Surely they can find some way to let people leave the offerings in a particular place and then burn them at the end of the evening.


GravatarVisitors leave 45 pounds of offerings from Halemaumau Crater each week, including flowers, bottles, money, incense, candles and crystals, park rangers say
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That's silly. Why not just require people to throw their offerings in? No muss, no fuss.


GravatarIf they announce it, and the media reports it,does it then not become so?
smalfish, armed


How so?

Just saying something doesn't make it so - that's been the whole problem with the Rat Wing and the media.


GravatarUsually security for employees tends to be lax
Prior Aelred |


What would constitute tight security at a government site with thousands of employees arriving everyday in their automobiles headed to dozens of buildings?
Getting a gun on site will always be doable.
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GravatarAnd that's going to be his message: Bush is a weak leader (his book is named "Where Have All the Leaders Gone?").

You go, Lee. All this strong leader crap -- if anything, it's W's clueless passivity that stands out.

Question is: will he get an interview on FOX? 'Cause otherwise, folks like my dad and my grandfather aren't gonna hear him...


Gravatar"Be in touch with us by sending in tips on new mosques, Islamic day schools, and the like. There is no crime in keeping tabs on these organizations"

I wonder if this would count as stalking.
Lumpenprolitariot


Probably not unless they are posting information about specific people. It surely counts as idiotic though. None of these places are secret and any organization that wishes to be secret will not be known to outsiders to be reported.

Just...well, stupid.


GravatarTalk to you all later this evening, j'espere.
steve simels

please be back for Bjork and Scarlett Johannson on SNL tonite? The show will still suck but at least we get the pretty women to look at.


GravatarThis afternoon, I saw a woman walking down the sidewalk with a scarf over her head.

She was pretty brown, so she could have been an Islamofascist. Or Korean. Or worse, both.


Hmmmmm..... In Nova Scotia? Are you sure it wasn't this Lady?


GravatarRangers at Hawaii Volcanoes National Park are launching a program to stop people from leaving religious offerings at the summit of Mount Kilauea --

If these were so-called 'Christian' offerings, there wouldn't be a problem now, would there?


GravatarHecate --

One of the nice things about the weekend is that the emails I get to sign petitions & write government officials are closed over weekends -- you at the office?


Gravatarbut at least we get the pretty women to look at.
Plum P


alas that radio does not afford the same pleasure


Gravatar"Be in touch with us by sending in tips on new mosques, Islamic day schools, and the like. There is no crime in keeping tabs on these organizations"

Please tell me someone in an official capacity didn't make this statement.


GravatarFeatured comment left on the MSNBC Shooting massacre discussion board...


“Our culpability in this situation, as a society, has been mischaracterized. Where we fell down was not in our lack of coddling this idiot or some misstep in guiding his defective and deviant urges towards more constructive ends. We are a society based on self-sufficiency, and those who are not self-sufficient are intrinsically barred from being full members of our society. Where we fell down was not Cho. We fell down with everyone else in that classroom. We taught them to be cowards, and then told them it was good that they were."

--MattyfromCincinnatti


Gee, thanks for frontpaging that psycho rant MSNBC.


GravatarIf these were so-called 'Christian' offerings, there wouldn't be a problem now, would there?
Sallyh

If they were Xian offerings, the priests would eat them. Like St. Joseph's Feast Day.


GravatarFrankly,

I don't visit things like forests, streams, etc without leaving an offering, although I've never been to a volcano. My offering is ususally birdseed, but I've left other things a few times. The park is going to have to figure this out; you can't just tell people to stop practicing their religion.


GravatarLeaving offerings at volcanoes is a religious act. Surely they can find some way to let people leave the offerings in a particular place and then burn them at the end of the evening.

I was thinking the same thing, but as someone else just said, the Xians now running the park district can't be havin' this heathen shit goin' on in THEIR park 'round THEIR volcano.

Be nice if Pele would just smote some guy trying to haul off that stuff, yelling, "Hey, that's MY pig, motherfucker!"


GravatarThe Park Rangers aren't interested in pocketing the cash offerings? (Maybe they are afraid of getting hexed)

Probably they can forbid just about anything in a park (doesn't mean people will cooperate, of course)


GravatarHmmmmm..... In Nova Scotia? Are you sure it wasn't this Lady?
GWPDA

la reine!


GravatarRe: Ioaccoca Book Tour

Question is: will he get an interview on FOX?

No.
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GravatarJust saying something doesn't make it so - that's been the whole problem with the Rat Wing and the media.



Guess I left out my snark tags.


GravatarBe nice if Pele would just smote some guy trying to haul off that stuff, yelling, "Hey, that's MY pig, motherfucker!"

Made me giggle.


GravatarWatching "Judgment at Nuremberg."

As many times as I see this, I still shake my head in disbelief and disgust at the part where the guy is trying to tell Richard Widmark to go easy on the Nazi war criminals because of the bad old Russkies.

Even then, the right wingers were scum!


GravatarBe nice if Pele would just smote some guy trying to haul off that stuff, yelling, "Hey, that's MY pig, motherfucker!"


See? Now there's a god I could get behind.


Gravatar"Be in touch with us by sending in tips on new mosques, Islamic day schools, and the like. There is no crime in keeping tabs on these organizations"



THIS is AMERICA?

How are we any different from the old Soviet Union when we have THAT attitude?


GravatarI don't visit things like forests, streams, etc without leaving an offering, although I've never been to a volcano. My offering is ususally birdseed, but I've left other things a few times. The park is going to have to figure this out; you can't just tell people to stop practicing their religion.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator

That is truly a lovely thing to do. I mentioned your blog in my morning post at Echidne's. Hope you don't mind.


GravatarEven then, the right wingers were scum!
Terry C

remember who was at the head of the FBI at that time


Gravataryou at the office?

Dear Prior,

I really should be, but I'm not. Babysat G/Son this morning and had the best time ever going outside and playing. Then, Son & D-i-L got home from running errands and we went and sat outside in the sun at a local Tex-Mex place and drank margaritas and ate cerviceh. So, by then, I decided not to work, but to just come home and hang out.


GravatarSee? Now there's a god I could get behind.
smalfish, armed


That would be very advisable until you are sure of her aim.


GravatarTerry C --

Or as George C. Scott's Patton refers to them in the eponymous movie, "God-damned-Mongoloid-Russians!"


Gravatarthat's cool Lee, very cool!
Plum P


Yeah it is. It makes a difference when captains of industry are saying this shit - it makes a difference to a lot of people who usually vote Repug -


GravatarBradley Smith says that the freewheeling days of political blogging and online punditry are over.

In just a few months, he warns, bloggers and news organizations could risk the wrath of the federal government if they improperly link to a campaign's Web site. Even forwarding a political candidate's press release to a mailing list, depending on the details, could be punished by fines.

Smith should know. He's one of the six commissioners at the Federal Election Commission, which is beginning the perilous process of extending a controversial 2002 campaign finance law to the Internet.


Gravatar don't visit things like forests, streams, etc without leaving an offering, although I've never been to a volcano.

Beer cans and hersey bar wrappings are the leavings of choice for the average american.


GravatarFrom CBSNews...
"Short Term Surge May Be Long Term"


Well Gooooolllllly Sgt. Carter

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/ 2...in2713600.shtml
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GravatarSmalfish, bears love Hershey bars and beer. But only if it's good beer.


GravatarBe nice if Pele would just smote some guy trying to haul off that stuff, yelling, "Hey, that's MY pig, motherfucker!"

Ka wahine `ai honua. Used to have a recording of Pele chants. I'd love to replace it but haven't gotten around to it yet.


GravatarGuess I left out my snark tags.
smalfish, armed


I wondered - don't blame me if I'm slow - I've been interrupted every 5 minutes the last half hour or so.



GravatarHecate --

Working on cases after too many margaritas might not be a good idea



(OK, define the concept of "too many margaritas")

BTW -- birdseed is a good offering -- I understand that if birds eat rice, they swell up & die (so they tell me)


GravatarSmalfish, bears love Hershey bars and beer. But only if it's good beer.
Sallyh

Yes. yes we do.


GravatarSmith should know. He's one of the six commissioners at the Federal Election Commission, which is beginning the perilous process of extending a controversial 2002 campaign finance law to the Internet.


Are we going to go thru this every election cycle?


GravatarBeer cans and hersey bar wrappings are the leavings of choice for the average american.

Well, beer and chocolate are pretty sacred...


GravatarI understand that if birds eat rice, they swell up & die (so they tell me)
Prior Aelred


Francis? Francis of Asisi? Is that you?


GravatarI think many of these assholes were upset that the VA Tech shootings were NOT done by an 'Islamofascist'. Better luck next time I guess.
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Gravatar"Are we going to go thru this every election cycle?
smalfish, armed | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 5:03 pm | # "

prolly so



Gravatari think i'm going to follow my cat and go for a nap.
a kitten before i go:

http://www.dailykitten.com/archi...7-sophie- 2.html

À plus tard.


GravatarWell, beer and chocolate are pretty sacred...
==

Heh. Nobody liked my idea, huh? That's okay, I think it's perfect.


GravatarThe Iacocca thing could really be influential, I'm thinking. He seems to have quite a following with a certain kind of old white Republican guy, as Tena mentioned downthread.


This is not the Iacocca I grew up with. This is an old person now who is trying to get into heaven.

/Bill Cosby


Gravatar"Apparently one of the Blue Angels crashed in Beaufort at an air show."


I blame Muslim Day care workers, I mean can they PROVE they had nothing to do with it?

It's either that or rap music.


GravatarA Chinese political prisoner sued Yahoo! in a US federal court, accusing the internet company of helping the Chinese government torture him by providing information that led to his arrest.


Big brother precedent awaits. In the name of terra they'll enable Big Bro. and the holding/rendition company.


Gravatara kitten before i go:

O I love that. My little boy used to sleep in his head with his feet up against the back of the chair.

I hate it that they grow up!


Gravatarleft rev.

Uh, no

Just a Benedictine (no, we do not make the liqueur -- the monks in Latrobe, PA used to brew beer, but the Irish bishop persuaded them to give it up -- but only for sale -- I understand they have beer on tap 24/7 - a transfer is a great temptation, but I would have to become RC)


GravatarSmalfish, bears love Hershey bars and beer. But only if it's good beer.


I drive around our city alot, and there are so many creeks around here and after heavy rains it really pisses me off how much trash is caught in our water paths. I has become entirely too noticable of late.


GravatarFrom CBSNews...
"Short Term Surge May Be Long Term"

Long term surge is definitely escalation. The only reason for it is to prolong the bug out till after Bush leaves the Whitehouse. With his pockets full of the silver.


GravatarI blame Muslim Day care workers, I mean can they PROVE they had nothing to do with it?

It's either that or rap music.


No. This was apparently because NBC elected to show the video and pictures of Cho back on Wednesday.


GravatarThe project to which Dave Gaubatz is currently devoting his time is called "Mapping Sharia in America", the purpose of which is to create a comprehensive map of every mosque and Islamic school in the U.S.

What is needed is a comprehensive map of every Jeebofascist church and Christianist school in the US.

So we can assess the actual threat to our republic, it's Constitution, and the Enlightenment in general.


Gravatar
I think many of these assholes were upset that the VA Tech shootings were NOT done by an 'Islamofascist'.


Scum sucking psycho shitbags who accuse the victims of being "cowards" all while refusing to sign up for Bush's vanity war.

Fuck them.


GravatarWhat is needed is a comprehensive map of every Jeebofascist church and Christianist school in the US.

So we can assess the actual threat to our republic, it's Constitution, and the Enlightenment in general.
Apprentice to Darth Holden


That's what we're talking bout!


GravatarOne of the best ways to deal with little is serious deposits -- it helped in Michigan (but drunken teenagers tend not to be responsible while driving -- it all sort of adds up, doesn't it?)


GravatarHeh. Nobody liked my idea, huh?

Sounded good to me. If you throw chocolate into the volcano, it'll get all melty, right?


GravatarWhat is needed is a comprehensive map of every Jeebofascist church and Christianist school in the US.


You're gonna need a bigger map.


Gravatara kitten before i go:
==

Oh my. How inviting that looks.


GravatarApprentice to Darth Holden--and don't forget all the Jeebofascist homeschoolers. Let's find out who they are and call them in.


GravatarLong term surge is definitely escalation. The only reason for it is to prolong the bug out till after Bush leaves the Whitehouse. With his pockets full of the silver.
olvlzl, guilty habit


This human tragedy will necessarily get worse before it has any chance of getting better. The Bush Plan is to cap the violence at some 'acceptacle' level until January 20 2009 and then go fuck off to his pig farm.
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GravatarOnly problem with leaving chocolate is that it's toxic to some animals.


GravatarRecently the Archbishop of Canterbury used the term "biblicist" -- I said I preferred "Biblidolaters" -- one of the commenters was offended -- I managed to get a good night's sleep anyway



GravatarSounded good to me. If you throw chocolate into the volcano, it'll get all melty, right?
nascardaughter


S'mores!


GravatarProbably they can forbid just about anything in a park

It's an interesting question that's cropping up all over the world as Pagans of all sorts insist on worshipping at sacred places. England, for example, has fenced off Stonehenge except for the once or twice a year when it allows Pagans to celebrate there. A blog called The Wild Hunt has done a good job keeping track of stories about this issue. Can you just tell Native Americans that they can't worship at their sacred sites because their sacred site is now a park? Recently, Ireland wanted to move an ancient stone carving of a "Janus" into a museum and the local Pagans protested. Sure, sites have historical or simple recreational value, but they're also sacred to some groups. And the notion that commerce, recreation, and study always trumps religious worship is just wrong. Meanwhile, the xians seem to have figured out how to allow both worship and tourism to go on at, say, Notre Dame. We need to do the same with other religions' sacred sites. Paganism is one of the fastest-growing religions in the world.


GravatarScum sucking psycho shitbags who accuse the victims of being "cowards" all while refusing to sign up for Bush's vanity war.

Fuck them.
Richard


Authoritarian Followers are perfectly capable of holding two completely contradictory beliefs at one time and believing both of them completely. The book (online) that Glenn Greenwald linked to is really fascinating.


GravatarScum sucking psycho shitbags
==

You tell em, Richard. I can tell the hydrocodone is kicking in at last. See you all later on. Peace andd love.


GravatarSallyh, point well taken.

Does anyone doubt that Monica Goodling was homeschooled for an extended period?


GravatarThe Bush Plan is to cap the violence at some 'acceptacle' level until January 20 2009 and then go fuck off to his pig farm.
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Agent Orange

I'm expecting that soon the media will be qualifying the reports of decreased casualites with "in the Green Zone".


GravatarScum sucking psycho shitbags who accuse the victims of being "cowards" all while refusing to sign up for Bush's vanity war.

Fuck them.
Richard |


I guess the name Derbyshire was one I'd seen before. "Rushing the shooter, counting the shots fired until he reloads."
Is this guy like a 14 year old kid or what?
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GravatarS'mores!
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar


Chocolate & Peeps?


GravatarEven then, the right wingers were scum!
Terry C

remember who was at the head of the FBI at that time
Plum P


The voyeuristic, cross-dressing J. Edgar "There Is No Such Thing As Organized Crime" Hoover.


GravatarAtrios is right about Bush NEVER leaving Iraq (leaving = losing) -- "surge" or whatever other names they come up with are just to spin things out.

Chocolate is toxic to many animals -- leave it with me!


GravatarWhat stupid, stupid shit.

That's all I've gotta say.


Gravatar& the beer, too (just in case)


GravatarApprentice to Darth Holden--and don't forget all the Jeebofascist homeschoolers. Let's find out who they are and call them in.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


Compassionate intervention! Liberate the brainwashed kiddies!


GravatarI've visited religous sites around the world, and the first rule is be respectful when you visit, even if that religion is not your cup of tea.

This seems very common sensical to me.


GravatarStone Goes to War with Bush on Iraq

HOLLYWOOD, CA (Hollywood Today) 4/21/07 — Oliver Stone is taking on an active new role in the anti-Iraq war movement with plans to direct an emotionally powerful TV ad showing Iraq vets and their families do not all support the war.


Stone has partnered with MoveOn.org and Votevets.org to direct a TV commercial featuring Iraq war veterans aimed at bringing home the troops. As a veteran on the Vietnam War where he received the Purple Heart during his service, Stone has always used his creative voice to reflect upon social and political issues as in the movies “Nixon,” and “JFK,” however with this new commercial Stone is taking an active role in influencing the present.


In the face of Bush’s controversial decision to surge in Iraq by adding another 28,000 troops, Stone will give Iraq veterans a voice of dissent. “We have leaders in Washington who say they’re ’supporting our troops’ — but the people who suffer most from their policies are the troops themselves,” Stone said in a statement Thursday.


GravatarIs this guy like a 14 year old kid or what?

Way too experienced in "Counterstrike".


Gravatar"Biblidolaters"
I've used "Bibliolaters", before.


GravatarIs this guy like a 14 year old kid or what?
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Agent Orange


No, he just lusts after them.


GravatarSallyh, point well taken.

Does anyone doubt that Monica Goodling was homeschooled for an extended period?
Apprentice to Darth Holden


Nope - don't doubt it for a second.


GravatarIs this guy like a 14 year old kid or what?



Watched too many AhNuld movies.


GravatarStone's one of those assholes who actually served, and served under fire, so the wingnuts can dismiss his position out of hand.

Apparently, the only people who know what is good for the troops are those who have never been near a recruiting center their entire lives.


GravatarChocolate is toxic to many animals

I think they won't eat it then, right?

I may be mistaken.

As I say, I usually leave birdseed.


GravatarWatched too many AhNuld movies.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now!


Or Dirty Harry, "feeling lucky today punk!"
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GravatarNIGHT MENA!

The drugs they gave me for walking pneumonia were some of the best ever!

"I guess the name Derbyshire was one I'd seen before. "Rushing the shooter, counting the shots fired until he reloads."
Is this guy like a 14 year old kid or what?
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Agent Orange | 04.21.07 - 5:12 pm"

No, but he is married to a mail order Asian bride who looks like a 14 years old.


GravatarDoes anyone doubt that Monica Goodling was homeschooled for an extended period?
Apprentice to Darth Holden

I doubt she was scooled, though she might have gone to Andy Schlafly's "Eagle Forum Academy". That is where he got the brain trust for his "Conservopedia" project. Go read it, it's hilarious.


GravatarNo, but he is married to a mail order Asian bride who looks like a 14 years old.

Michelle Malkin?

/rimshot


GravatarI think they won't eat it then, right?


Dogs will.


GravatarWatched too many AhNuld movies.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now!

Or Dirty Harry, "feeling lucky today punk!"
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Agent Orange


And "Red Dawn"


GravatarWASHINGTON — "If President Bush's former chief of staff can chat about the identifying of CIA agent Valerie Plame on Jon Stewart's comedy show, he can talk about it to the House oversight committee, the panel's chairman said Friday. If Andy Card refuses, the panel will vote Wednesday on whether to compel his testimony with a subpoena, said Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif."


GravatarHecate --

No -- chocolate is poison for dogs -- they love it -- then they get sick -- if you're lucky they survive.


Gravatar
HOLLYWOOD, CA (Hollywood Today) 4/21/07 — Oliver Stone is taking on an active new role in the anti-Iraq war movement with plans to direct an emotionally powerful TV ad showing Iraq vets and their families do not all support the war.



I'm not a fan, but I'm damn glad to hear this.


GravatarBTW -- birdseed is a good offering -- I understand that if birds eat rice, they swell up & die (so they tell me)
Prior Aelred

totally untrue.

Yet Rev. Hagee want all jews to die.


GravatarStone's one of those assholes who actually served, and served under fire, so the wingnuts can dismiss his position out of hand.

Apprentice to Darth Holden


His Purple Heart was obviously for a self-inflicted scratch. Where's that Pat woman with the purple heart bandaid on her primary chin?


GravatarThis is an old person now who is trying to get into heaven.



Ah well, the more people who stop legitimizing insanity, the better for us all...


GravatarMichelle Malkin?

/rimshot
Apprentice to Darth Holden

Oh, oh. Talking dirty about Malkin sets off one of the trolls here. Can't remember which sock it is but he's got a hankerin' for Malkin.


Gravatar"Also being considered for a subpoena on a related issue: Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. Waxman wants to know what Rice knows about the administration's claim, later discredited, that Iraq sought uranium from Africa."


Gravatar& the beer, too (just in case)

Oh. It occurs to me that I have poured libations onto the Earth or stones. Generally wine or vodka, not beer. I bet ants would love beer, bees, too, maybe. I leave a small bowl of v. good booze on my home altar for the house brownies and devas of this place. I've never had a bit of trouble w/ ants or anything else going for that.

I'm just blown away by the park's insensitivity. Would they ever ask xians to stop praying at a certain site because it was holding up traffic or whatever?


Gravatar If Andy Card refuses, the panel will vote Wednesday on whether to compel his testimony with a subpoena, said Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif."

Ain't that sweet?

GLOATgloatGLOATgloatGLOATgloatGLOATgloatGLOAT...


GravatarApparently, the only people who know what is good for the troops are those who have never been near a recruiting center their entire lives.
Apprentice to Darth Holden



Yep - and how fucked up is that?


Gravatar"Waxman is taking aim at the firings, too. His committee's agenda Wednesday includes a vote on a subpoena for Republican National Committee documents related to e-mails written by White House officials and possibly deleted in violation of the law."


Gravatar"Also being considered for a subpoena on a related issue: Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. Waxman wants to know

I love me some Mr.Waxman.


GravatarActually, "Red Dawn" is a wingnut favorite -- it baffles me that they don't recognize that the movie explains what is happening in Iraq (freedom fighters = insurgents, get it?) -- they are so stupid!


GravatarWaxman '08


GravatarI heard a recent invu with Darth Cheney the other day on radio.....It actually sounded just like Vader.
He talks in long bites then takes a huge suck of air to replenish his starving cardiac muscle.
It was right out of the Star Wars sound track.
freeeeeaaaaaaaaaaky


GravatarIs this guy like a 14 year old kid or what?

He probably owns a copy of the "Left Behind:Eternal Forces" video game, where your goal is to shoot as many non-Christians as possible....


This game immerses children in present-day New York City -- 500 square blocks, stretching from Wall Street to Chinatown, Greenwich Village, the United Nations headquarters, and Harlem. The game rewards children for how effectively they role play the killing of those who resist becoming a born again Christian. The game also offers players the opportunity to switch sides and fight for the army of the AntiChrist, releasing cloven-hoofed demons who feast on conservative Christians and their panicked proselytes (who taste a lot like Christian).

Is this paramilitary mission simulator for children anything other than prejudice and bigotry using religion as an organizing tool to get people in a violent frame of mind? The dialogue includes people saying, "Praise the Lord," as they blow infidels away.

The designers intend this game to become the first dominionist warrior game to break through in the popular culture due to its violent scenarios and realistic graphics, lighting, and sound effects


GravatarAh well, the more people who stop legitimizing insanity, the better for us all...
nascardaughter



Exactly. People's lives are at stake. I will take my allies where I find them and not cavil too much about where they were last year and the year before.


GravatarNo -- chocolate is poison for dogs -- they love it -- then they get sick -- if you're lucky they survive.

Yep.

I had a poker party at my house long ago and someone dropped a joint on the floor. My very young dog found it and ate most of it. Man, was that one stoned dog. Had to take him to the vet. He survived alright, but we were very worried.


GravatarThe right wing blogs are heaping praise on Dave Gaubatz. Gaubatz's "SANE" webpage accuses Bush of treason. So, they can't be all bad.

"The response we know to expect now would be, “What could you possibly be suggesting would have been the proper response of the authorities?” And to that question the answer should be, but is not, obvious. That he and his parents should not have been here in the first instance is clear. That this “troubled” young man was not deported, but should have been, at the first sign of “trouble” is also clear. And, we did not because it would not have been “fair” because he is, after all, as President Bush reminds us about the illegal immigrants in America, a “person” just like “us” except what that means of course is that there is not US only ALL or the World. And therein lies the treason."


GravatarOh, oh. Talking dirty about Malkin sets off one of the trolls here. Can't remember which sock it is but he's got a hankerin' for Malkin.
olvlzl, jamais cool


liberal jeenyus.


Once called me a racist simply because I called her a delusional asshole.


GravatarApparently, the only people who know what is good for the troops are those who have never been near a recruiting center their entire lives.

Now now. Those things are everywhere. It is quite unpossible for a wingnut to have never been near a recruiting center in their entire lives.

In a recruiting center, they've certainly never been.


GravatarBoth cats and dogs have been reported to have died from eating chocolate, I was kind of surpised about the cats. Cat's will go up to something, smell it and turn away in disgust. Dogs smell it, think it's disgusting but will eat it just to make sure. I love dogs, by the way. Echidne's puppy picture last night was one of the most cunnin' I've ever seen.


Gravatar"I'm just blown away by the park's insensitivity. Would they ever ask xians to stop praying at a certain site because it was holding up traffic or whatever?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 5:19 pm"

I sure as hell hope so!


Gravatarchocolate is poison for dogs -- they love it

Prior,

I didn't know that. Thanks!


GravatarI bet ants would love beer, bees, too, maybe.

Hecate

Many post-republican slugs would find themselves back on the wheel for another go-around, however.


GravatarI heard a recent invu with Darth Cheney the other day on radio.....It actually sounded just like Vader.



I fiiind your lack oof faiiith...Disurrrbing.


GravatarPlane apparently struck a tree and then crashed.


GravatarNo -- chocolate is poison for dogs -- they love it -- then they get sick -- if you're lucky they survive.
Prior Aelred

bakers chocolate is but milk choc. in small quantities isn't. Same for onions & garlic. My boy dog loves onions, but I only let him have a couple of tablespoons at a time.


GravatarHecate --

You're welcome -- so you can just give the chocolate to me for safe keeping - beer, just to be safe -- after all, tomorrow is my birthday (that's why they chose the date for earth Day -- in my honor -- do you believe me?)


GravatarCan anyone picture Derbyshire boldly throwing himself onto a gunman, who has snuck into the Cornorites' den to test their resolve under real world conditions?

No, I can't either.


GravatarActually, "Red Dawn" is a wingnut favorite -- it baffles me that they don't recognize that the movie explains what is happening in Iraq (freedom fighters = insurgents, get it?) -- they are so stupid!
Prior Aelred


That's always amazed me about Red Dawn fans. Milius sets up the entire thing all the way through, with the Hispanic leader remarking to his Russian superior that he had seen this all before...when he was fighting to get the Americans out of his country.

They just don't get it, even when Swayze's character comes right out and says that all the violence is justified because "we live here."


GravatarS'mores!

I like this religion. And since we don't want to hurt any dogs, we'll just have to eat 'em (um, eat the s'mores, I mean).


Gravatar"That this “troubled” young man was not deported, but should have been, at the first sign of “trouble” is also clear"



WTF?


GravatarThe right wing blogs are heaping praise on Dave Gaubatz. Gaubatz's "SANE" webpage accuses Bush of treason. So, they can't be all bad.


The deciderer is a traitor in their wyes only because he has'nt tilted far enough to the violent side. His own petard is killing his ratings.


Gravatarhello moonbats


Gravatar"That this “troubled” young man was not deported, but should have been, at the first sign of “trouble” is also clear"

Rule of Law! Rule of Law!

Oops.


GravatarHello, folks!

i'm on a period of downtime in this hospital weekend, betwixt hemodialyziing the needful.

What is the topic du jour? What foolishness have the Fonts of Wisdom recently promoted?
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GravatarActually, "Red Dawn" is a wingnut favorite

Isn't that the fascist chic movie where they didn't even bother getting people who could pretend to speak Russian, the Russians spoke gobbldy-guk.


Gravataran Islamic Bomb

so what exactly is an Islamic bomb? how it is different from a normal bomb?

does it wear a hijab or something?


GravatarMacadamia nuts and grapes and raisins are all also regarded as poisonous for dogs.


Gravatar, as President Bush reminds us about the illegal immigrants in America, a “person” just like “us” except what that means of course is that there is not US only ALL or the World. And therein lies the treason."

This makes as much sense as Cho's ravings did.


GravatarHe probably owns a copy of the "Left Behind:Eternal Forces" video game, where your goal is to shoot as many non-Christians as possible....

The only people playing this game are non-gamers, that is, Christianist children who have been sheltered from the gaming world..and as a result, do not know how lame the game actually is in comparison.

Because the game's UI, graphics, and gamplay is so poor compared to other games on the market, the game has flopped in the broader community.


Gravatardoes an Islamic bomb come in the shape of a Qu'ran?


GravatarAren't most toxins OK in small enough quantities? Most dogs are not extremely fastidious (at least the dogs i know -- prolly I know a low class of dog).

If somoene were threatening me with a gun, trying to get it away from him would be the last thing on my mind -- but I expect in a crowd, there is going to someone who tries it & I suspect that there was - the greatest pity that no one succeeded (preferably early)


GravatarMacadamia nuts and grapes and raisins are all also regarded as poisonous for dogs.

There are many poisonous pants that kill babies. Why are they not banned from the lanscapers planting schemes?


GravatarEver since George Marshall gave China to the Commies, the world has been going to hell in a handbasket...


Gravatarafter all, tomorrow is my birthday

I know, you Taurus, you! There's a card waiting for you back at the monastery. Many, many happy returns of the day!


GravatarMacadamia nuts and grapes and raisins are all also regarded as poisonous for dogs.
Echidne of the snakes

Echidne---

Nuts--like peanuts. I knew about chocolate, but my dog loves peanuts. that doesnt mean it is good for him, though.
source for this?


Gravatardoes an Islamic bomb come in the shape of a Qu'ran?

No. More crescent shaped.


Gravatarthe Russians spoke gobbldy-guk.
olvlzl, jamais cool | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 5:26 pm |

And they still bothered with subtitles.


Gravatarwingnuts have gone beyond grasping at straws


Gravatarthe "Left Behind:Eternal Forces" video game, where your goal is to shoot as many non-Christians as possible....




Yeah, because Jebus would have wholeheartedly approved of that.


Gravatarso what exactly is an Islamic bomb? how it is different from a normal bomb?

It's an atomic device that operates on the principle of getting the opposition to believe in it enough to die from psychosomatic effects, since it cannot be found by any real-world process of evidence.

Pretty clever, in a "time for our medication" sort of way.
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Gravatardoes an Islamic bomb come in the shape of a Qu'ran?
Moonbootica, Jog On!

No, it's the one without Slim Pickens on top.


GravatarThere are many poisonous pants that kill babies. Why are they not banned from the lanscapers planting schemes?
smalfish, armed


The reason is that they are too many.


Gravatarthe Russians spoke gobbldy-guk.

They didn't want to give the Soviets any strategic information or ideas.


GravatarThere are many poisonous pants that kill babies. Why are they not banned from the lanscapers planting schemes?

Well, I grow a fair number of deadly plants. But I do so on my private property and I don't let children play outside in my garden unattended. Some of those plants, datura and foxglove, for example, have lovely flowers.


Gravatarso what exactly is an Islamic bomb?

ishtar


GravatarYeah, because Jebus would have wholeheartedly approved of that.
Terry C - End


Their Jebus does.

They are rather confused about Jesus, I think.


Gravatarand what evidence exactly do miserable
bitches like Melanie Phillip have to dream up a Iran-Russia-Iran conspiracy?

fuck all thats what

and why the fuck are they considered serious but we on the left are called 'fringe loons'?


GravatarEver since George Marshall gave China to the Commies, the world has been going to hell in a handbasket...
ProfWombat

I don't know about you but the proliferation of baskets since Nixon went to China really disturbs me sometimes. It's as if every last bamboo has been turned into baskets and shipped here to clutter up shelves across America's garages.


GravatarSome of those plants, datura and foxglove, for example, have lovely flowers.

agatha's favorites.


Gravatar "I'm just blown away by the park's insensitivity.

I'm just blown away that you can't see the problem with people leaving garbage that attracts rats. There is room for sensible compromise isn't there?


Gravatarso what exactly is an Islamic bomb?

ishtar


2 points!
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GravatarNuts--like peanuts. I knew about chocolate, but my dog loves peanuts. that doesnt mean it is good for him, though.
source for this?
peterboy

peanuts are dangerous to dogs, they can't chew them up enough, so the peanuts split then the dogs swallow them. The sharp edges of the nuts can slice up their intestines. Try chunky p-nut butter instead.


GravatarNuts--like peanuts. I knew about chocolate, but my dog loves peanuts. that doesnt mean it is good for him, though.
source for this?


Here is one website. In most of the poisoning cases with different foods the dog ate a lot of the stuff. I know a veterinarian who had to have her dog's stomach pumped when she was a student because the dog had eaten a whole bowl of onion rings her roommate had made for the vet (then a student) before she left town for the weekend, and the dog, alone, gobbled them all up.


GravatarAh Hecate! Thanks!

I am certainly a Taurus & a MBTI ISTJ & an Enneagram 5 (6 wing, if you care)

BTW -- I still haven't heard if they installed broadband at the monastery yet - supposed to be Friday the 13th, then Wednesday -- I so want it to be up & running by my return Monday (having broadband here is spoiling me!)


GravatarNo, it's the one without Slim Pickens on top.
1Watt, Hermit


saw that flick on amc again this morning. one of my favs of all time.


GravatarMy cat eats peanuts. He loves them.


Gravatarso what exactly is an Islamic bomb?

Held together with gum arabic. Odd that the Pakistan bomb doesn't seem to be considered an Islamic bomb. It'd be the one them Persians get.


Gravatar"I'm just blown away by the park's insensitivity.

I'm just blown away that you can't see the problem with people leaving garbage that attracts rats. There is room for sensible compromise isn't there?


Is this about the Vietnam Memorial - the famous "Wall"? Cause people ahve been leaving beer, smokes, stuffed animals, pictures, and all sorts of othe rthings there for years, and the Park Service has just collected it and bitched not a bit.
Why the change? Part of luvvin on the troops?
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GravatarI'm just blown away that you can't see the problem with people leaving garbage that attracts rats. There is room for sensible compromise isn't there?


Should we compromise and say the Grand Canyon is 10,00 years old instead of 400 or 500,000?

Do not the time honored traditions matter? I'm all for saftey and cleanliness, but really, if this were a xtian tradition we would not be hearing about doing away with this.


GravatarPretty clever, in a "time for our medication" sort of way.



GravatarWhat I liked the phrase was that the State Department "lost China" like they misplaced it or something.


Gravatarconfirming one dead in blue angles crash.

faux snooze talking heads wondered if it may have been brought down by hostile fire.

over beaufort, s.c.

what a bunch of idiots. do they have any idea how hard it would be to hit a blue angel with a shoulder mounted rocket launcher?


GravatarI'm just blown away that you can't see the problem with people leaving garbage that attracts rats. There is room for sensible compromise isn't there?
Danny Guam | 04.21.07 - 5:32 pm | #

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i like mena's idea of just chucking the stuff into the volcano. for some reason i assumed that was the normal way of making a sacrifice to a volcano spirit anyway.


GravatarI really doubt most parks service employees care about your religion. They care about the garbage.


GravatarI'm just blown away that you can't see the problem with people leaving garbage that attracts rats. There is room for sensible compromise isn't there?

I guess you didn't read my first post on this topic, which suggested what I believe to be a "sensible compromise." It's not a "sensible compromise" when the park just tells people to stop practicing their religion. And you may want to avoid the use of the word "garbage" to describe other people's religious offerings. Rats are seen, BTW, in many cultures, as instruments and embodiments of the goddess coming to claim the offerings left for her.

And, I know what you should do.

You should bite me.


Gravatar"Gaubatz also believes that Islamists are plotting to kill our children by infiltrating American school buses and are plotting to sneak nuclear weapons into our sewer systems. And that even though the Va Tech killer wasn't a Muslim, the lesson of the Va Tech killings is to clamp down on Muslims."


He's just as delusional as the VA Tech shooter.


GravatarPrior: the right thinks someone 'lost' Vietnam, too. And they're gearing up for someone having 'lost' Iraq...


Gravatarderby calls the victem of the blue angel crash a pussy for not rushing the plane.


GravatarActually, "Red Dawn" is a wingnut favorite

It appeals to their gun-nut delusions of grandeur. Forget about the armed forces. It's going to be private citizens with gun collections who will be on the front lines if and when the US gets invaded. The 2nd amendment writers were so right!


GravatarI really doubt most parks service employees care about your religion. They care about the garbage.
Danny Guam


What's YOUR problem with pagans?


GravatarI would think an islamic bomb would be a nuke with the word Iran printed on it and pointed in that general direction..


GravatarWA Gov Signs Domestic Partnerships Bill Empowering Gays


GravatarOK -- just checked -- they are supposed to hook up broadband "maybe Monday" -- i.e., the day i return - already i am unhappy with the company we are dealing with (& we have no choice)



Gravatar"confirming one dead in blue angles crash.

faux snooze talking heads wondered if it may have been brought down by hostile fire.

over beaufort, s.c."


Please tell me you are kidding.

God help us if they find any Muslim day care centers in the area.


GravatarYou should bite me.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


shoot.

i NEVER get to bite you.

[sulk]


Gravatartest.
holscan demanded cookies a minute ago and I lost a thnk you post to echidne and watt....


Gravatarthe lesson of the Va Tech killings is to clamp down on Muslims."

You know what would realy straighten things out is [SARCASM] if they were required to wear large, visible, uniform crescents, and were given their own part of town to live in, and required to verbally warn others before conversing or transacting business of their nature...


GravatarPlease tell me you are kidding.

alas, no.


GravatarI really doubt most parks service employees care about your religion. They care about the garbage.

This administration has manage to politicize every fucking aspect of the Dept. of Interior. They most certainly care about their religion, though.


GravatarIt appeals to their gun-nut delusions of grandeur. Forget about the armed forces. It's going to be private citizens with gun collections who will be on the front lines if and when the US gets invaded. The 2nd amendment writers were so right!
Richard


If we got invaded and if the wanna-bes got captured, they'd be spilling their guts within 5 minutes.

NOT that THEY would KNOW anything....


GravatarI really doubt most parks service employees care about your religion.

I think you're absolutley right. This comes from on high. It's yet more political religionism from the 43 adminstration.


Gravatarfox news [paraphrased from memory]:

so we don't know if it could have been brought down by enemy fire.

yes, it's possible. there are houses in the area, and fire could have come from one of those.


GravatarHe's just as delusional as the VA Tech shooter.
Terry C -


I'll take a capuccino, grazie. I said that upthread.

GMTA.


GravatarI really doubt most parks service employees care about your religion.

Well, since they're adminstering my religious sites, that's a problem. Just as it would be if they were administering your church and couldn't figure out why you needed those stained glass windows with lead in them or whatever.

Again, I'd avoid the use of the word "garbage" to describe other people's sacred offerings. But that's just me.


GravatarYou want to read a real wingnut book in the vein of 'Red Dawn', try 'Fifth Column', in which a small band of Americans beat a Chinese occupation by, among other things, inventing a machine that selectively kills people on the basis of their 'race'.

Heinlein. Next time he's defended here, now you know...


GravatarThe family values family:
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Local freelance paparazzi shots of the Dukestir's and others' exercise yard appearances will be appreciated. One hour in 24 required outside, I am told. Plenty of room for additional Republican crooks, Mr. Donelittle.
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GravatarWA Gov Signs Domestic Partnerships Bill Empowering Gays

nooooooooooo! these powerful gays will dress us all!


GravatarI don't care for chocolate, myself. A nice coq au vin, followed by a tarte des fruits, a small coffee and a little cognac - this I enjoy very much....


Gravatarits not enough for wingnuts to believe in a Grand Muslim conspiracy but they decide to include Russia and China in it?

what would China and Russia have in common with Al Qeada?

man wingnuts brains are wired differently.


Gravatarfaux snooze talking heads wondered if it may have been brought down by hostile fire.

But my RPG comment earlier was snark.


GravatarThere are many poisonous pants that kill babies. Why are they not banned from the lanscapers planting schemes?
smalfish


Think "fugu" at the Xian baby-BBQ.


GravatarHow about all the "garbage" left in those places where the Promise Keepers had their gatherings?


GravatarWell, we all know that Bush "lost Iraq" -- hell, his Daddy had the whole thing set up to prop up his poll numbers (which is why Ambassador Glespie told Saddam Hussein that we had no problem with his attacking Kuwait) -- but he thought some other "acceptable" strong man would replace him -- having our forces tied down bombing him from time to time was not a good plan -- Junior can deal with uncertainty & has to resolve things -- sie the situation was no winnable, there is (eventually) only one alternative


GravatarDon't be so fuckin sensitive.

Throwing stuff in the volcano seems OK if it is burned up and not around for others that don't appreciate your worship of gar er, I mean offerings.

If I hike into the wilderness and I come across your little alter I am going to be pissed at your self centered thoughtlessness.

I won't however ask for anyone to bite me.


GravatarWhere's nurse Ratched when you need her the most?


GravatarHow about all the "garbage" left in those places where the Promise Keepers had their gatherings?
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! |


how about chix tracs?


GravatarNow playing on the cable "Oldies" station: "Honey" by Bobby Goldsboro.


Gravatari like mena's idea of just chucking the stuff into the volcano. for some reason i assumed that was the normal way of making a sacrifice to a volcano spirit anyway.

Oh, this is a park with volcanoes? Kilauela?

Good luck, Park boys. Honking off Pele is something that takes stones.

Do you realize that the last big Fed fiddle with Kiluela was drilling geothermal taps into Kilauela crater in 1983, despite the Hawaiian objections that it would anger Pele?

Twoo weeks after the taps were finished , Kilauela erupted - and it's still spouting, right this minute. 1983 - 2007+.

Gee, Uncle Yogi, the Park Ranger's gonna wear his ass for a hat when he takes Her picinic basket, huh?
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GravatarRANDALL HAROLD CUNNINGHAM 94405-198 65 White M 06-04-2013 TUCSON USP

Noooooooooooooooooo! The Dukestir's in Tucson!

Maybe one of the Bonnanos can go visit.


GravatarWhat's wrong with leaving food out for rats?

They have to eat, too.


GravatarIf I hike into the wilderness and I come across your little alter I am going to be pissed at your self centered thoughtlessness

i get pretty annoyed at the crosses decorating highways where someone has been killed in an auto accident.

not necessarily for the reason you may think.


GravatarMoonbootica, Jog On! | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 5:40 pm

Russia and China are both doing a better job of being World Powers if not Great Powers. They're showing they've always been ready for hegemony, regardless of how many good tracts of land they have. The US on the other hand grabs everything and squanders it.


GravatarDon't be so fuckin sensitive.

Throwing stuff in the volcano seems OK if it is burned up and not around for others that don't appreciate your worship of gar er, I mean offerings.

If I hike into the wilderness and I come across your little alter I am going to be pissed at your self centered thoughtlessness.

I won't however ask for anyone to bite me.
Danny Guam


How rude!


GravatarPentagon Now Grants Less Disability Benefits To Vets Than Before Iraq War
-NPR


Gravatarit's been my experience that pagans are in general better stewards of the wild than xians.


Gravatarou want to read a real wingnut book in the vein of 'Red Dawn', try 'Fifth Column'...

I think you mean Sixth Column.

Heinlein's a weird one... never was a big fan, though.


GravatarHecate there are quite a few arguments against creating national parks, my brother wrote a post about the New Forest and its resistance to be a National Park here in the UK - Commoners Rights and the Tragedy of the New Forest Becoming a UK National Park


GravatarIf I hike into the wilderness and I come across your little alter I am going to be pissed at your self centered thoughtlessness.

If you hike into the wilderness and come across my little altar, you'd be well-advised to keep on hiking.

I am just saying.


GravatarDon't be so fuckin sensitive.

Throwing stuff in the volcano seems OK if it is burned up and not around for others that don't appreciate your worship of gar er, I mean offerings.

If I hike into the wilderness and I come across your little alter I am going to be pissed at your self centered thoughtlessness.


I've decided that your house is most suitable for my services.

Now, get the fuck outta my way so I can "worship".


GravatarSo - if the Borg offers me the job that pays an extra $20k and is far less irksome than my present gig, do I take it or do I go ahead with the current plan to 'retire' in September?

Anybody?
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GravatarThey have to eat, too.
JR, kerosene and a match | 04.21.07 - 5:42 pm |

The rats will never eat the annoying children if you spoil their appetites. Think of how Thers feels.


GravatarSo how come I, as a gentle scientifically inclined skeptic, find pagans' respect for the natural world something I can live with easily, and fundies' take on it repellent?


GravatarWhat's wrong with leaving food out for rats?

They have to eat, too.



Are'nt you gonna bury them?


Birds gotta eat to.

[spit]


Gravatarit's been my experience that pagans are in general better stewards of the wild than xians.
dirk gently, sociopathetic


Pagans aren't spouting some nonsense about "the rapture's coming soon so it's okay to fuck the environment."


GravatarAgain, I'd avoid the use of the word "garbage" to describe other people's sacred offerings. But that's just me.

You and everyone else who respects cultural practices other than their own.


GravatarMoon,

New Forest is a great example.


Gravatar"i get pretty annoyed at the crosses decorating highways where someone has been killed in an auto accident.

not necessarily for the reason you may think."
--dirk gently,

That, and the 100+ little crosses they put up in the front of the church for abortions. Asshats.


GravatarWA Gov Signs Domestic Partnerships Bill Empowering Gays

for real? That's awesome!


GravatarLost track of my columns, I did: thanks for the correction. Book's also been publichsed as 'The Day After Tomorrow'...


GravatarGWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 5:45 pm |

Take the job. Economy will gradually get worse. Bear in mind in taking it and if they screw with you how close retirement is.


GravatarSo how come I, as a gentle scientifically inclined skeptic, find pagans' respect for the natural world something I can live with easily, and fundies' take on it repellent?
ProfWombat


I'm an agnostic, and I feel the same way.


GravatarSo - if the Borg offers me the job that pays an extra $20k and is far less irksome than my present gig, do I take it or do I go ahead with the current plan to 'retire' in September?

How often do you get to 'retire'?

I'd go that route, myself.


GravatarHeinlein. Next time he's defended here, now you know...
ProfWombat

I despise Heinlein, the American fascist D'annunzio. Stranger was the stupidest book I read one summer.


GravatarThat's weird. They don't blame Clinton at all. Surely he is the root of missing WMD coverup.
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GravatarSo - if the Borg offers me the job that pays an extra $20k and is far less irksome than my present gig, do I take it or do I go ahead with the current plan to 'retire' in September?

Retire on schedule.
Return 6-8 weeks later as a contract worker, doing the same thing on your choice of hours for 2-3X the money.

this is not snark. this is the business world. do it.
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GravatarThat, and the 100+ little crosses they put up in the front of the church for abortions. Asshats.
mer


Abortion is bad, but war is good.

In the fundie world, blastocysts take precedence.


GravatarGWPDA,

Take it.


Gravatarand fundies' take on it repellent?
ProfWombat

It reminds them that there are "others."


Gravatardo I take it

Depends, I guess. How well is Arthur provided for in his old age? Seriously, though, isn't there a book you should be writing? I'd retire if I could afford to.


GravatarBirds gotta eat to.

[spit]
smalfish


Considering your nym, you sould keep the law of the fishes in mind


GravatarSo - if the Borg offers me the job that pays an extra $20k and is far less irksome than my present gig, do I take it or do I go ahead with the current plan to 'retire' in September?

How exactly would it affect "retirement"?


Gravatar"Anybody?"
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--GWPDA

Depends on how you feel about working for them.


GravatarI'm an agnostic, and I feel the same way.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! | 04.21.07 - 5:46 pm | #


as an athiest, i prefer to be around pagans.

they don't pester me, and are cognizent that some things are metaphors.


GravatarSo how come I, as a gentle scientifically inclined skeptic, find pagans' respect for the natural world something I can live with easily, and fundies' take on it repellent?
ProfWombat

No market competition, no motive to hate.


GravatarThrowing stuff in the volcano seems OK if it is burned up and not around for others that don't appreciate your worship of gar er, I mean offerings.


Not to piss anyone off, but I highly doubt that "throwing food or trash into a volcano is an option.

1) most volcanos do not have an active lava pool.

2) those that do would burn the ever loving shit out of you long before you got close enough to throw anything in.


GravatarDo you ever stand in front of the mirror to see how horrible your face can look if you really screw your eyes and stick out your tongue? It's fun.


GravatarI don't care for chocolate, myself. A nice coq au vin, followed by a tarte des fruits, a small coffee and a little cognac - this I enjoy very much....
Arthur J. GWPDA


You know better than that, A.J.

The cheese will bind you up, the fruit will give you worms, and the caffiene and booze is so foreign to your system that you'll be crapping on Auntie's ceiling.


Gravatarhey, tucson's hiring:

Actively Hiring: This location is in urgent need of correctional officers to fill vacant positions. Select USAJobs to search for vacancies (series number GS-007); if no position matches your query, go directly to BOP-HIRES to apply to our open continuous positions.


Gravatar"I'm an agnostic, and I feel the same way.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! | 04.21.07 - 5:46 pm"

Are you sure?



I was never a Heinlein fan, but he had some interesting concepts -- I liked "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress"


GravatarEchidne of the snakes, I spend as little time as I can in front of a mirror, with good reason.


GravatarBTW, why should someone else's child be able to dictate what I can plant in my garden. That's fucking ridiculous.


Gravatarwell, i'm out for a while

auditions for a short film based on a lovecraft piece.


see yas


Gravatar The Ethics of Labor Struggle: A Free Market Perspective


GravatarGood point smallfish. So I guess the best thing to do is keep your worship private. All of it.

I really don't know why some people have to get all bent out of shape if someone disagrees with them around here.

I have a different opinion than Hecate. I don't see why I need to bite her over it.


GravatarSpeaking of crosses, the local brownshirts absolutely hate this display.

Melanie Morgan and her fellow radio Nazis get esp. frothy-mouthed.


GravatarI'm an agnostic, and I feel the same way.
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! | 04.21.07 - 5:46 pm | #

as an athiest, i prefer to be around pagans.

they don't pester me, and are cognizent that some things are metaphors.
dirk gently, sociopathetic


Me, too. Pagans don't try to convert me.


GravatarPrior: 'Moon' is often viewed as a libertarian's screed, but any colony in such an inimical environment would find itself utterly communitarian in order to survive...


Gravatar"i get pretty annoyed at the crosses decorating highways where someone has been killed in an auto accident.


As a dyed in the wool atheist, I don't have a problem with them. I think they do a service by pointing out where a drunk driver did his deed and that it can happen anywhere.


GravatarI don't see why I need to bite her over it.
Danny Guam | 04.21.07 - 5:51 pm | #


you don't know what you're missing


GravatarThere she goes again, screwing the eyes.


GravatarI really don't know why some people have to get all bent out of shape if someone disagrees with them around here.




Didn't we go through this this morning?


GravatarI was never a Heinlein fan, but he had some interesting concepts -- I liked "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress"

Read him for ideas, not for your guide to life. In fact, treat all authors such and you'll prosper more.

anyway, i still think it's interesting that the basic ideas of the waterbed and the linear magnetic accelerator (aka railgun) are public domain, unpatentable, because they were first introduced to the world in Heinlein novels. (Arthur Clarke also made telecommunications satellites public domain the same way.)
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GravatarNot enough information, GWPDA- how would this affect your retirement? Would have you have to work a certain number of years more than you have planned now?

What are the advantages and disadvantages to each option?


GravatarHow exactly would it affect "retirement"?
dave™©


Well, I wouldn't be 'retired'. I'd be working for the Borg. I think mostly what I'd do is put off retirement for about a year, work for these guys, and maybe be able to swing what Cynicus suggests - it's that kind of gig. I couldn't do that of course without actually first working for them for awhile, but probably could relatively quickly. On the other hand, it would mean not going back to being an historian for awhile. It works out like this - either not be offered the job, and in September, thru sleight of hand, get myself displaced, end up with a nice extra bit of money for the pot, retire and live happily ever after. Or, have the job offered to me, take it, work a year, take the nice extra bit of money, retire and live happily ever after. Kinda shiksa one, half a dozen of the other.
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GravatarAs a dyed in the wool atheist, I don't have a problem with them. I think they do a service ...
smalfish, armed |


as i said, not for the reasons you might think.

nonetheless, my original point was about coming across someone else's alter.

i look the other way and leave them to it.


GravatarThis one made me laugh out loud.

Recall a favorite canard of the Rethuglicans:

"Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime".

New version:

"Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day."

True, how true.


GravatarI don't get it... Kurtz loves Perfesser Jethro, et al? Oh, okay.
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GravatarA certain baseball team located in the Northeast is currently beating another by the score of 7-4. All right thinking people applaud...


GravatarDidn't we go through this this morning?
Terry C - End Bush's War Now! | 04.21.07 - 5:53 pm | #


i disagree.


Gravatarin Ken MacLeod's brilliant book The Stone Canal he features a fictional character call Jon Wilde, referred to as a 'libertarian space nut' (in the prior book, The Star Fraction) and he creates this pamphlet, called The Earth is Harsh Mistress


GravatarI'm so bummed that Alec Baldwin is a nutcase and a mean daddy. I love him on 30 Rock!
Cookie Gugglema


Nut case? Cause he got mad at his 13 year old? My god, what's weird is someone can't get mad at his teenager and not have the whole country on his ass (no offense.) Christ almighty, my dad called me worse and jerked my phone out of the wall - twice.

To me this whole thing is absurd!


Gravatar"Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day."

True, how true.
The Jester


That's an old "girl's" joke.


GravatarI'm kinda hurt. Really, I been comin around here for years and now I'm bein told to bite someone I have "known" for years. Weird.

If I ever meet you I will expect an apology.


GravatarOLYMPIA, Wash. -- Same-sex couples and elderly couples will be able to register as domestic partners starting this summer, after Gov. Chris Gregoire on Saturday signed into law a measure giving them some of the rights that come with marriage.

The law creates a domestic partnership registry with the state, and will provide enhanced rights for same-sex couples, including hospital visitation rights, the ability to authorize autopsies and organ donations and inheritance rights when there is no will.


SeattlePI.

I live in a good state. My governor and senators are all female and Democratic.


Gravatar"Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime".

New version:


don't give that lazy bastard a fish, let him fish by his bootstraps like i did. and if he wants to learn to fish, he can go to the school where his dad pledged.


Gravatarhttp://www.comcast.net/news/inde.../21/ 643069.html


Holy shit!


GravatarGood point smallfish. So I guess the best thing to do is keep your worship private. All of it.


What you ask is iompossible to achieve. Way too many people believe in one form of religion or another. Thier enshrinement of such is for them to display. Just keep their opinions to themselves is all I ask. If they want to put a roasted pig beside a volcano, I could really care less. If they want to put a cross in their front yard so what. Just don't force feed me the reasons for wanting to do it.


GravatarThe technofascists, with Echelon, RFID chips, public surveillance cameras, and the like, have us under tighter surveillance at home than we could have imagined a generation ago; they have the globe under the closest thing to an unchallenged hegemony that's ever existed in history. In their wildest dreams for the near future, the PNAC types probably imagine something like Ken Macleod's US/UN Hegemony in The Star Fraction, enforced by a network of orbital laser battle stations capable of incinerating ships and armored formations anywhere on the Earth's surface.(1) But in Macleod's story, that Hegemony was overthrown in the end by asymmetric warfare, fought by a loose coalition of insurgencies around the world. Their fluid guerrilla tactics never presented a target for the orbital lasers; and they kept coming back with one offensive after another against the New World Order, until the cost of the constant counter-insurgency wars bled the U.S. economy dry.

I suspect that all these high-tech lines of defense, against would-be military rivals and against subversion at home, are a modern-day version of the Maginot Line.


http://mutualist.blogspot.com/20...ossed- body.html


GravatarYay. My state did something right today.

They'll just fuck somethin up tomorrow.


GravatarThe Party of Brownshirts

Paul Craig Roberts

Neoconservatives have turned the Republican Party into a Brownshirt Party.

Look at the evidence. While real patriots flee the party, the remaining supporters cling to power by asserting dictatorial dominance for President Bush. The Republican attorney general denies that the U.S. Constitution provides habeas corpus protection to American citizens. Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney, Republican candidates for the 2008 presidential campaign, believe the president has the power to imprison U.S. citizens indefinitely without warrants or trials. The "conservative" Federalist Society favors concentrating more power in the executive. Neoconservative ideologues claim the right to impose American hegemony over all others— especially over Muslims.

All of these Republican tyrants and budding tyrants claim to be protecting liberty and democracy.

http://www.creators.com/opinion/...ig- roberts.html

What a shrill DFH!
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GravatarBeaufort is known throughout the mid-east for its hummus n' grits.


Gravatar"I live in a good state. My governor and senators are all female and Democratic."
--TheOtherWA

I live in a "bad" state. Lucky you.


GravatarIf the man gets sufficiently hungry, he'll want to learn to fish. He won't have any problem finding a place to acquire the knowledge. Then he won't starve, and we won't have to trip over him on the way to Morton's Steak House...


Gravatarhomemade pizza in ten minutes -- I'm outta here (priors have priorities)


GravatarIf I ever meet you I will expect an apology.
Danny Guam


Here's your apology:

[raises middle finger]

Climb it, Danny.


Gravatar"Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish in overdeveloped, polluted water, with new species introductions the result of trade and interior policy, and he'll still be aqsking for a fish."


GravatarAs a dyed in the wool atheist, I don't have a problem with them. I think they do a service by pointing out where a drunk driver did his deed and that it can happen anywhere.
smalfish, armed


When I visited Ireland, they had small permanent "Black Spot" signs erected at every place where there was a fatal accident... when you came up on a bad curve with a cluster of "Black Spots", it really made you think (and slow down)...
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GravatarI suspect that all these high-tech lines of defense, against would-be military rivals and against subversion at home, are a modern-day version of the Maginot Line.

Moonbootica


Uh, Moom...

Google "Piper Cub Offense".

It's been a Maginot Line in the Sky for almost a decade now.


Gravatar"Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll sit in a boat and drink beer all day."

True, how true.
The Jester

That's an old "girl's" joke.

I still think its funny


Gravatar"Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime".

Nobody ever taught me to fish, I had to pick it up in the streets...


GravatarGWPTA, if you retire and move to Canada, can you convert all your money to Canadian dollars so you're a bit protected if/when the US dollar tanks? That's what I'd do, fwiw.


GravatarNut case? Cause he got mad at his 13 year old? My god, what's weird is someone can't get mad at his teenager and not have the whole country on his ass (no offense.) Christ almighty, my dad called me worse and jerked my phone out of the wall - twice.

To me this whole thing is absurd!
Tena


Another diversion by the "liberal media."

Because everyone has pretty much forgotten Anna Nicole.


GravatarI live in a good state. My governor and senators are all female and Democratic.
TheOtherWA


Much as I bitch about it, I agree. This is a wonderful wonderful thing and you have good government.


GravatarSo I guess the best thing to do is keep your worship private. All of it.

You cannot really be that fucking stupid. Why should Pagans have to keep their worship "private"? The First Amendment guarantees their right to worship, just as much as it guarantees any other religious person's right to worship. For Pagans, sites such as volcanoes, forests, and streams are where they need to worship. And part of that worship involves leaving offerings that are then "cleaned up" by Gaia herself, via rats, ants, birds, cockroaches, etc.

I suggested way up above that a reasonable compromise would be for the park to establish a place for people to leave offerings, which you insist upon referring to as garbage, and to then burn them at the end of the day. As someone noted, it's impractical to burn them in the volcano, but it would be possible to burn them in a respectful manner, thereby eliminating, heaven forfend, rats and roaches in the great outdoors, while still allowing people to exercise their religious freedom. Apparently, that's too much to ask of you as if you so much as hike by a cairn of stones you're going to be offended at my "selfishness." So, yeah, bite me. And then ESAD.


GravatarI went out on the back deck to inoculate myself from malaria, but this April sun is too powerful. The big freeze last week killed all the leaves on the big sycamore tree that shades the back deck.


GravatarThe sad thing is is that all the fish are poisoned now.


GravatarTeach a practical man to fish, and he'll sell the boat for more beer money, because, if he's well beered, why would he need fish?
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GravatarSo I guess the best thing to do is keep your worship private. All of it.

Because you don't understand or agree with something someone else does, they should hide it so as not to offend you?

If you don't get the religion thing per se, think of it this way: religion is culture. People have all kinds of interesting, "crazy" (from the POV of an outsider) cultural practices. You don't have to practice them yourself to err on the side of respect, and giving people room to do their thing.


GravatarWell, it's not like the fish stocks have been depleted to the point of collapse.


GravatarHecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 6:00 pm


You go, girl!


Gravatar..less irksome and 20k extra.
I would at least try it for a bit.

as to the 7-4,
we keep praying that the green tea will help the torre forces to prevail.


GravatarWhat's fascinating about the Gonzales hearing is just how good Whitehouse is - and how effective Schumer and even Kohl are.

Principally tho, is the utter -thickness- of Gonzales. He honestly does not perceive that what he is, and what he's done is fundamentally wrong. He cannot grasp this of course without grasping that what he is, himself, is wrong.

Aye, me. What a problem we find ourselves in.


GravatarI se y'all found the irksome while I napped...!
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GravatarSo I guess the best thing to do is keep your worship private. All of it.

I dunno, I've been beaten up plenty for being a practicing Catholic on this site, and I don't think it was because of the bad jokes either.


GravatarAnother Vietnam comparison:

""All levels of command tended to view civilian casualties, even in significant numbers, as routine and as the natural and intended result of insurgent tactics," Bargewell wrote, according to the Post. "Statements made by the chain of command during interviews for this investigation, taken as a whole, suggest that Iraqi civilian lives are not as important as U.S. lives, their deaths are just the cost of doing business, and that the Marines need to get 'the job done' no matter what it takes.""


GravatarTeach a man to fish, and he'll stay drunk at Crawford and ignore Tenet's warnings...


GravatarAye, me. What a problem we find ourselves in.
GWPDA


What's the pool on AbuG looking like right now?


GravatarTeach a man to fish, and he'll stay drunk at Crawford and ignore Tenet's warnings...
Mr.Murder


He'll catch nothing, but the White House Noise Machine will say he caught a seven pound perch.


GravatarNot that I think that leaving sacred offerings at a place like Mt. Kilauea is crazy -- it seems perfectly reasonable, and beautiful, to me. But just saying that even if it doesn't seem beautiful to you, there's no reason to be disrespectful about it.


Gravataras to Gonzalez, I think the Senate and House are building a case to neuter the existing folks. They are also buildling to getting hands on the Rove emails. Everyone thinks he/she knows what these guys were doing...and whatever we imagine, it was worse than that.


GravatarWell...
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GravatarI dunno, I've been beaten up plenty for being a practicing Catholic on this site, and I don't think it was because of the bad jokes either.
The Jester


Would it console you to know that I foisted a papist rosebuch (Rosa Mundi) on some fundy freaks?


GravatarPrincipally tho, is the utter -thickness- of Gonzales. He honestly does not perceive that what he is, and what he's done is fundamentally wrong. He cannot grasp this of course without grasping that what he is, himself, is wrong.

in a way, i think the startlement of it is, we are so, so used to leaders of this Administration being palpable hypocrites, moughting Party doctrine and not believeing a word, that we are surprised and puzzled by a Gonzales - a small man, to be sure, but a True Believer.
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GravatarIf you don't get the religion thing per se, think of it this way: religion is culture. People have all kinds of interesting, "crazy" (from the POV of an outsider) cultural practices. You don't have to practice them yourself to err on the side of respect, and giving people room to do their thing.
nascardaughter |


That's what we used to claim was the American way.


GravatarI really hate the fact that you guys are activly advocating for the world to eat me.


Gravatar, and that the Marines need to get 'the job done' no matter what it takes.""
Troutski

And this is why you don't use Marines as policemen. The Army has a whole corps to do police action & civil affairs.


Gravatarsmalfish: I really hate the fact that you guys are activly advocating for the world to eat me.

I routinely tell the world to eat me.
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Gravatar religion is culture.

So is yoghurt.



GravatarAmerican troops "devalued Iraqi lives".


GravatarGonzales hearing-I loved the chart Whitehouse prepared of the number of people who could discuss political cases with DOJ compared to the Clinton administration.
Clinton-4 people in the EH and 3 at DOJ.
Bush-417 in the WH and over 30 in DOJ.

No wonder they (claim they) don't know who the hell did what.


GravatarI really hate the fact that you guys are activly advocating for the world to eat me.

You are just the cutest thing.



I think less people would et fish if they were armed, though.


Gravatarthere's no reason to be disrespectful about it.



I think disrespectful is the exact right word when it comes to the heart of the matter. Xtian/the administration want respect for their religion yet go out of their way to disrespect every other religion in the world.


GravatarI dunno, I've been beaten up plenty for being a practicing Catholic on this site, and I don't think it was because of the bad jokes either.
The Jester


Are you perhaps confusing yourself with Catholicism in general?

I have a tendency to sometimes identify too closely with something -

I don't recall anyone ever personally attacking someone here for being RC- but there's plenty of anti-RC sentiment here. I don't like the RC one damn but, myself.


Gravatar, and that the Marines need to get 'the job done' no matter what it takes.""
Troutski

And this is why you don't use Marines as policemen. The Army has a whole corps to do police action & civil affairs.


"When you send out a man with a rifle, you create a policymaker, because he's going to do whatever he thinks it takes to get his ass home alive. And if you don't like the implications of that, the time to think about it is before you send out that man with a rifle"

/ David Drake, science-fiction author and Vietnam veteran.
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GravatarTeach a man to fish the East River? You trying to kill someone?

I say, forget those Council of Trent feckers. More complex polyphony for all!


GravatarI really hate the fact that you guys are activly advocating for the world to eat me.



Actually, I'm having a real ethical issue over eating fish. I eat a lot of fish and shellfist, red meat only as a rare treat. But knowing that the oceans are so overfished, I feel as if I should stop eating anything except farmed fish. It's difficult to do. I'm still working it out.


GravatarI think less people would eat fish if they were armed, though.
Molly Ivors


You called?


Gravatarone damn bit, one damn butt - it's the RC - what can I say?




Gravatar*sigh*

I don't want to wait a week + for my new computer.

I wanna do this (computing) on the couch...now!


GravatarIraq really is Vietnam in too many ways.


GravatarYou are just the cutest thing.


She's mine.

The rest of you can buger off.


GravatarThe Next Big Miscarriage of Justice


GravatarYEA! Red Wings win 5-1!!!!!!


GravatarYou are just the cutest thing.

She loves me, she really does.


You guys can bugger off now.


Gravatar All the atrocities, and how to take advantage


GravatarNow that the fighting Pope killed Limbo, is transubstantiation next?


GravatarDoh!

That comment was not there a minute ago.+20 seconds anyway.


Gravatarpizza cooling

the only time I recall being attacked personally about religion was by the name stealer & by what's his name (gone blank0 when he was drunk at night (went after Rmj as well)

Of course, as an Episcopalian, I have less to be embarrassed about, so there's that (strawhat is a practicing RC as well, IIRC)


GravatarAre you perhaps confusing yourself with Catholicism in general?

I hope not. Some of the things the Church has done disgusts me. But, I cannot think of a better alternative. being Catholic is part of who I am and I just wish people would stop knocking me for what I believe.


GravatarI dunno, I've been beaten up plenty for being a practicing Catholic on this site, and I don't think it was because of the bad jokes either.
The Jester |


keep practicing.

you'll get it.


Gravatar"I dunno, I've been beaten up plenty for being a practicing Catholic on this site, and I don't think it was because of the bad jokes either."

For simply being a 'practicing catholic'?

With hilarious results?
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GravatarDoh!

That comment was not there a minute ago.+20 seconds anyway.
smalfish, armed | Homepage | 04.21.07 - 6:13 pm | #


I'm convinced that haloscan has developed a consciousness. You was fucked with!



Gravatarhow do you practice being a catholic?

do you like swing incense about and have Latin read to you?


Gravatarsmalfish: I really hate the fact that you guys are activly advocating for the world to eat me.

actually, we throw the small ones back.


GravatarAlright then.

It's time to go to Dallas International Guitar Show with the ten year old. She's going to see her first live concert tonite. Jars of Clay are playing. I have no idea what to expect. But the environment is what I'm going for and to show her a new part of life.


GravatarRmj has accused me of attacking him after I objected to his claim that religion was the source of morality (a claim I have a large problem with).


GravatarI hope not. Some of the things the Church has done disgusts me. But, I cannot think of a better alternative. being Catholic is part of who I am and I just wish people would stop knocking me for what I believe.
The Jester


Well what I think you're doing is mistaking knocking what you believe in general, as nonbelievers, and attacking you personally as an idiot for believing it - See the difference?


GravatarBite me helloscan, you evil invention of the neocons......

That is all. I got nuttin'.....just wanted to let helloscan know how I felt.


GravatarI'm convinced that haloscan has developed a consciousness. You was fucked with!

"We had hope, we could defeat Skynet and its Terminators. But then Skynet found a rival - Haloscan. And then it all went completely to shit....."
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Gravatarreally leaving now.

it's a 15 minute drive.


GravatarRmj has accused me of attacking him after I objected to his claim that religion was the source of morality (a claim I have a large problem with).
Tiktaalik


Wait a minute - I am sure beyond everything that Robert never claimed that.


Gravatarsmalfish: It's time to go to Dallas International Guitar Show with the ten year old. She's going to see her first live concert tonite. Jars of Clay are playing. I have no idea what to expect. But the environment is what I'm going for and to show her a new part of life.

Don't forget the hearing protection!
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GravatarCardinals do have snazzy robes though


GravatarBut the environment is what I'm going for and to show her a new part of life.
smalfish, armed

Ah...reminds me of jamming with Kiss when I took my two teenagers. Have fun!


GravatarXiminez: NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.


GravatarBut the environment is what I'm going for and to show her a new part of life.
smalfish, armed

Ah...reminds me of jamming with Kiss when I took my two teenagers. Have fun!
footloose


Too cool - I second the have fun part.


GravatarDon't forget the hearing protection!
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Yep. I have some really kick ass earbuds for the ipod that are noise cancellation. She's going to wear them.


Gravatarhow do you practice being a catholic?

do you like swing incense about and have Latin read to you?
Moonbootica, Jog On!


And genuflect, genuflect, genuflect!


GravatarI mean, I have a sister who belongs to a "born again" church and she actually told our mother (who is the sweetest woman alive and deserves sainthood simply for putting up with us) that she was going to hell because she was a Catholic.

WTF?


GravatarTalk to teachers all over the country - they'll tell you how they feel about the NCLB program.

Unfunded, undiciplined, unfocused.

Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore

And unlegal, too?

Unpossible!


GravatarRe: Thread: Ostensibly the 'vast conspiracy'of Saddam's 'recovered' WMDs being covered up by the 'liberal' media is because the journalists want their children bombed by China, Russia and Iran.

What goofball thinking!


GravatarIfin I were to be of any religion it would be as a Pantheists.


Gravatar*ahem*... cookies

Wait a minute - I am sure beyond everything that Robert never claimed that.
Tena


Yup.

After 5 posts complaining about me objecting to it he decided to take his goalposts for a walk.


GravatarCardinals do have snazzy robes though
Moonbootica, Jog On!


I think so too - with the Spanish style hats - very snazzy. But the pope still has the best slippers.


GravatarJars of Clay are playing. I have no idea what to expect. But the environment is what I'm going for and to show her a new part of life.

Jars of Clay are a xtian rock band.

Serious.


GravatarThe Vatican Rag


http://www.turoks.net/Cabana/Vat.../ VaticanRag.htm


GravatarEastern Orthodox puts on a better show.


GravatarNo cronies left behind!

'Heck of a job NCLB!'


GravatarBut the environment is what I'm going for and to show her a new part of life.
smalfish, armed

Ah...reminds me of jamming with Kiss when I took my two teenagers. Have fun!


Some things last. Right this minute under the scrubs, i'm wearing my 'luckiest' shirt - a desperately faded, full of holes thing from the days of seeing Zepplin in concert. You never know, they may feel the same down the road.
Good times.......
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GravatarSo, did Howie Kurtz attack pretty much all religions, or has the thread moved past him?


GravatarThere are many poisonous pants


Maybe NTodd's onto something.


Gravatarthe Prada Pope and his Pretty Secretary

good title for a novel eh?


GravatarAnd genuflect, genuflect, genuflect!
Terry C


2, 4, 6, 8...
time to transubstantiate!


GravatarIt's difficult to do. I'm still working it out.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Honey, you are so ready for Desert Sweet SHRIMPS!


GravatarEverything I know about Catholicism, I learned from The Sopranos.
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Gravatar
Jars of Clay are a xtian rock band.


That's what I understood. Oh well. But it is "The Guitar Show". I'm quite sure they won't be playing their mellow stuff.

Anyway, later taters.


GravatarWait a minute - I am sure beyond everything that Robert never claimed that.
Tena


Doesn't sound like something RMJ would say.


GravatarAfter 5 posts complaining about me objecting to it he decided to take his goalposts for a walk.
JR,


I wasn't there, but I have never known Robert to claim that. He will make the claim that it is one source, but Robert knows very well that the Greeks invented Ethics as a discipline. He and I have talked about it. I have to believe y'all mistoke what he was saying.

And he will leave an argument as it gets too heated - he doesn't like that for himself - to get angry. I know him pretty well; I've known him for a long time.


GravatarOooohhhh! The Kiss on Place in the Sun! Great movie!


GravatarXiminez: NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.
Moonbootica, Jog On!


THE COMFY CHAIR???????????????


GravatarI'm convinced that haloscan has developed a consciousness. You was fucked with!--Tena

If only Stanley Kubrick had survived to make a movie about Haloscan. With NTodd as the sole survivor of its murderous ways


Gravatarmistoke - mistook - god.


GravatarBiggles: Here they are, lord.
Ximinez: Now, old lady -- you have one last chance. Confess the heinous sin of heresy, reject the works of the ungodly -- *two* last chances. And you shall be free -- *three* last chances. You have three last chances, the nature of which I have divulged in my previous utterance.
Wilde: I don't know what you're talking about.
Ximinez: Right! If that's the way you want it -- Cardinal! Poke her with the soft cushions!

[Biggles carries out this rather pathetic torture]

Ximinez: Confess! Confess! Confess!
Biggles: It doesn't seem to be hurting her, lord.
Ximinez: Have you got all the stuffing up one end?
Biggles: Yes, lord.
Ximinez [angrily hurling away the cushions]: Hm! She is made of harder stuff! Cardinal Fang! Fetch...THE COMFY CHAIR!

[JARRING CHORD]


GravatarWell what I think you're doing is mistaking knocking what you believe in general, as nonbelievers, and attacking you personally as an idiot for believing it - See the difference?

Tena, I love you, but that was kinda mean.


GravatarJars of Clay is a Bare Naked Ladies clone with feel good Christianity.


GravatarSo, did Howie Kurtz attack pretty much all religions, or has the thread moved past him?
Little Boots


He's so easy to move past.


GravatarJars of Clay is a Bare Naked Ladies clone with feel good Christianity.
Troutski | 04.21.07 - 6:22 pm | #


if I had a million drops of santified blood of the blessed saviour lamb of god.....I'd buy your......salvation.......


GravatarEverything I know about Catholicism, I learned from The Sopranos.
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Jeffraham Prestonian


Beats the hell outta having to learn it from Sister Boniface and Father Theobald.


Gravatarmistoke -

Smoke go down the wrong tube, Tena?



GravatarTena, I love you, but that was kinda mean.
The Jester |


See what I mean? - I wasn't saying you were an idiot for what you believed.

You took it wrong.


GravatarXiminez [with a cruel leer]: Now -- you will stay in the Comfy Chair until lunch time, with only a cup of coffee at eleven. [aside, to Biggles] Is that really all it is?
Biggles: Yes, lord.
Ximinez: I see. I suppose we make it worse by shouting a lot, do we? Confess, woman. Confess! Confess! Confess! Confess
Biggles: I confess!
Ximinez: Not you!


GravatarConsider the possibility of a namestealer for RMJ.


GravatarDoesn't sound like something RMJ would say.
flory


ChiDy was on the thread, you can ask.

In context, it was part of a large comment and was, to him, a throw-away remark. I don't think he understood how it might be offensive. More of a blind spot than him actually looking to piss off the godless.


Gravatarmistoke -

Smoke go down the wrong tube, Tena?


Zap Rowsdower |


If you believe Freud - there are no accidents.



Gravatarwell, uh, I might 'suggest' that people are um, 'idiotic' for believing in a suicidal male god who doesn't exist, but I wont.........

because that would be......mean.....


GravatarEverything I know about Catholicism, I learned from The Sopranos.

I've been watching The Sopranos religiously since it started on A&E in January. Do I get points?


GravatarHe's so easy to move past.

If only CNN would understand that.


Gravatar
Rmj has accused me of attacking him after I objected to his claim that religion was the source of morality (a claim I have a large problem with).


Isn't he the one who is always going after Richard Dawkins?

He makes loud claims here that Dawkins is attacking "strawmen" but when people ask him to provide actually examples, he'll say just look at my blog and then run away.


GravatarEverything I know about Catholicism, I learned from The Sopranos.

i can't wait to see "The Doctrine of Big Pussy" on the 700 club.
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Gravataree what I mean? - I wasn't saying you were an idiot for what you believed.

You took it wrong.

Ah so. Brain addled by too much Bud Light.


GravatarI've been watching The Sopranos religiously since it started on A&E in January. Do I get points?

Some, but blessed are those who watched from the HBO inception.


GravatarOh, I'm not holding anything against Rmj, he probably didn't mean it.


GravatarHe makes loud claims here that Dawkins is attacking "strawmen" but when people ask him to provide actually examples, he'll say just look at my blog and then run away.
Richard


You can bite me.

No he does not run away. I explained that he will leave if an argument gets too heated because he doesn't like getting angry and he's fucking busy.

Now please - I respect Robert because he has earned my respect over the last 4 years. You don't like his comments - DON'T READ THEM.


GravatarSome, but blessed are those who watched from the HBO inception.
Little Boots


So -- I've never watched a single episode.

I'm going to hell?

(...which would consist of an eternity forced to watch the Sopranos, IMHO)


GravatarSome, but blessed are those who watched from the HBO inception.
Little Boots

Yeah, cos they could afford a premium channel!


Gravatars h e e p s
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GravatarWait. Maybe he said something offensive that *I* could mean!

No, no, I'm an atheist, that probably wouldn't work.

BTW, morality doesn't originate in religion, it originates in socialization.


Gravatarhttp:// talentshow.publicradio.or....shtml#erlewine

Damn halohell: scrubbed me.

Prairie Home Companion is having its Artists in their Twenties tonight--you can vote up to 6:30 CDT.

Daisy May Erlewine and Seth Bernard
from Big Rapids, MI; The Karg Boys
from Nashville, TN; Jaryd Lane
from Kaplan, LA; Chris O'Brien
from Somerville, MA; The Powder Kegs
from Burlington, VT; The Sweetback Sisters from Brooklyn, NY

I was wondering if anyone's heard these groups in their locales?


GravatarEastern Orthodox puts on a better show.
Troutski | 04.21.07 - 6:19 pm | #

I was raised in the Greek church. They'll use any old excuse for a robed procession with candles and incense.

Best of all are the big wealthy churches with hundreds of sliding panels to illustrate the liturgy and Bible readings. The altar boys scurry about trying to keep up


GravatarSo -- I've never watched a single episode.

I'm going to hell?


No, Limbo.

Ooops, scratch that, per Ratzi. Guess it's gotta be hell.

Sorry.


GravatarBTW, morality doesn't originate in religion, it originates in socialization.
R. Manhammer


Well, according to the new, improved Rmj goalposts on that thread, without religion *he* wouldn't have any morality.


Gravatar(...which would consist of an eternity forced to watch the Sopranos, IMHO)

Maybe you can smuggle in The Wire, if ya got some creep in ya.


GravatarYou don't need some dogma to know right from wrong.


GravatarNational Existence is political order experienced by men of the nation as a Rise to Being. Its opposite is a replacement of political order experienced by men, women, children and slaves as a Fall from Being. This Redirection in the experience of the Terms of Being (Self, Society, G-d and World) results in the collapse of Self into Society and all into World. The goal, wittingly or otherwise: a World State.

SANE opposes this Redirection and its manifestations: chants of Racism, Democracy, Equal Rights, Human Rights, Women's Rights, Animal Rights, and the always growing list of what is the Single Concept: Certainty/Uncertainty = Science/Open Society = World. To understand this reciprocal and how it affects a convergence of factors bent on the destruction of National Existence is to be SANE.


your basic Fucking Whackjob,right there, and thus perfectly normal that all the Right use him as a credible source. This guy sounds fucking dangerous to me.


Gravatar
No he does not run away. I explained that he will leave if an argument gets too heated because he doesn't like getting angry and he's fucking busy.


Nice copout rationalization there.


GravatarI'm a practicing "cafeteria Catholic" myself, and I can see how Catholics could sometimes feel uncomfortable hereabouts. But I can also see why people are so pissed off about Christianity, and Catholicism, in general, so I dunno...

Unfortunately, right wing Christianists, with the help of the media, have managed to define Christianity as exclusively their particular brand of Christianity.


Gravatarflory - you really ought to rent the first season of the Sopranos - it's amazing.

But if there's only one HBO series you watch - make it The Wire.

It's just so fucking brilliant.


Gravataryour basic Fucking Whackjob,right there, and thus perfectly normal that all the Right use him as a credible source. This guy sounds fucking dangerous to me.

Member when the Right was actually embarrassed by the white supremacists and the Birchers? Guess it's hard to remember, but it really was true once. In fact, it was the whole point of Buckley's career and the National Review. Once.


GravatarMember when the Right was actually embarrassed by the white supremacists and the Birchers? Guess it's hard to remember, but it really was true once. In fact, it was the whole point of Buckley's career and the National Review. Once.

I remember. They were embarrassed by Nixon!


GravatarNice copout rationalization there.
Richard


Now, now, that's not polite.

How are you going to get any respect if you aren't civil?


GravatarI remember. They were embarrassed by Nixon!

And now, they just think he didn't go far enough.


GravatarI remember. They were embarrassed by Nixon!

And now, they just think he didn't go far enough.
Little Boots |


I guess it was inevitable - make a deal with Satan, eventually it's gonna catch up.



!


GravatarMoonboo @ 6:12: Every time I dip into the threads today, you've been offering some really good stuff.

Damn, it seems to be fuck the sad sacks in the military right and left of the Atlantic.

NPR yesterday did a good report (they can, you know) on how the Army is designating injured soldiers as 10% disables when they can barely function. When they finally get to the VA, they're redesignated--sometimes.

And, now, this crap about service people's living quarters.

Too depressing.

(Loved your comment about the wall under the ground to separate Catholic and Protestant graves!!! Religion can make people reeeeaaaaaalllllllly weird.


GravatarSo far, the groups have been blue grass, folksie--everyone's been good on PHC, which I can't always say for the musical acts.


GravatarThis SANE crap is recognized as 501(c)(3) non profit organization. I can't believe the donations to this hate group are tax deductible... Sigh! Anyone knows if KKK is a non profit org too?


GravatarThe technology has since accelerated beyond what the original facilities could use, and they've since discarded the power conversion as it became most reliable, in concert with the company that was part of the power sharing agreement, which was one of the power sharing providers for Enron(Entergy).

In fact the power sharing rate arrangement for the two photovoltaic colleges(MCCC and NWMCC) was so bad a deal that state subsidies had to underwrite the difference.

During peak hours the power usage was a net producer at times, but away from those times the billing rate dramatically increased.

Such billing procedures, on a larger scale, were later applied towards Enron's schemes across the mid-south and western United States.


Gravataroops, i'm getting seperate threads/websites confused, apologies


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