I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

First?


GravatarHello.


GravatarWoo hoo!


GravatarFor once the dreaded HaloScan has not lied to me.


GravatarThe Happiest War on Earth


GravatarI just need to know how many tickets you want, Duncan.


GravatarOver that same period of time I have effectively ignored Nightline as a teevee news program.

Hell, I didn't even know they still broadcast it.


GravatarNightline is still covering the hostage crisis in Iran.


Gravatarwhat war?


Gravatarvery cool pics of the Space Shuttle Endevour

totally awesome!!!


GravatarOf course, Disney doesn't want to dirty our fucking minds.


Gravatarnot greedy. 2 tix.


GravatarSad state.


GravatarHi Oyster!


GravatarWell, Nightline got in trouble for giving the dead soldiers names and faces. They learned their lesson from their Republican opressors.


Gravatarery cool photos of the space shuttle Endeavor

Can anyone identify the coastline in the second photo?


GravatarI got $105 million, you assholes. Elect me because I've got th heart of the common man...(not light that half-breed nigger)


GravatarGorgeous Friday Cat Blogging


Gravatarvery cool pics of the Space Shuttle Endevour

totally awesome!!!
Moonbootica


The hurricane photo freaked my shit.


GravatarMonica A. has been heeding Pat Buchanan's advice and is now paying her reparations to Whitey.


Gravatarnot greedy. 2 tix.

No problem. They'll be waiting for you at the box office. Membership does have its privilege.


GravatarCreating their own reality, one "news report" at a time.


GravatarHey Scout and Oyster!

NOLA in da house!

(And will be on the radio - with Dr. Ike of Ponderosa Stomp on the 19th!)


Gravatar
Over that same period of time I have effectively ignored Nightline as a teevee news program.

Hell, I didn't even know they still broadcast it.
Holden Caulfield



Yeah, that Ted Koppel has got to be a fossil by now...


GravatarFIRS.....oh never mind.


GravatarIt isn't just Nightline. All MSN ignores the war. It doesn't appear to sell anything for them.


GravatarSince I don't watch "Nightline," I hadn't noticed.


GravatarTeh awesome surge is working.

What else you need to know?

Besides the Iraq story doesn't have any compelling visuals, y'know? It's TeeBee, baybee!


...is HaloScan especially constipated this afternoon, or what?


Gravatar Can anyone identify the coastline in the second photo?

I actually thought it was your neck of the woods when I looked at it.


GravatarDamn sheets!

Wombat from below: It should occasion moral outrage and an urgent effort to correct the injustice and prove responsibility.

Not to mention pitchfork-and-torch wielding mobs.

It's very third-world. I feel like we're in the Soviet freaking Union.


GravatarI see I owe Holden a refreshing beverage.

Damned waves of coincidence!


GravatarChimpy

Americans of Scottish descent have made enduring contributions to our Nation with their hard work, faith, and values. On National Tartan Day, we celebrate the spirit and character of Scottish Americans and recognize their many contributions to our culture and our way of life.

...

National Tartan Day is an opportunity to celebrate all Americans who claim Scottish ancestry, and we are especially grateful for the service in our Armed Forces of Scottish Americans who have answered the call to protect our Nation.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim April 6, 2008, as National Tartan Day. I call upon all Americans to observe this day by celebrating the continued friendship between the people of Scotland and the United States and by recognizing the contributions of Scottish Americans to our Nation.


Gravatarhey oyster!


GravatarMonica A. has been heeding Pat Buchanan's advice and is now paying her reparations to Whitey.

HA!

Ouzo and I signed up for the classical music concerts. I get all these great deals on shows we're never going to go to.

Ani DiFranco: not going

Duran Duran: out of the question

Gipsy Kings: Got our tickets


Gravatarwhat war?

Well, not to begin the picking of the nits, but there is no "war." There is an occupation, however, and it's not going too well.


GravatarKoppel was fired for mentioning dead soldiers.


GravatarEchidne,

I have sent you pics of two of my parrots for Friday critter blogging. Hope you can use one!


GravatarI found the link at Ski and Snowboard forum Snowheads, really interesting stuff gets posted there, its the same place I found the Nekkied Austria Ski Instructor Calendar


GravatarIt's very third-world. I feel like we're in the Soviet freaking Union.
res ipsa loquitur


When you've got to read between the lines of every newspaper and read the body language of every news pundit on TV just to figure out what's really going on ....

it is the Soviet Union.


GravatarWell, if res ipsa can do it:

Left Blogistan and 60 Minutes have laid out an appalling misuse of prosecutorial power. It should occasion moral outrage and an urgent effort to correct the injustice and prove responsibility.
ProfWombat


It should. But if recent history has taught us anything, it's that such things only happen in fiction. Thomas More's speech about the devil and the forest of the laws is a fine speech; in a play by Robert Bolt.

In reality, nobody talks that way.

The only time such justice is done in reality is when the powerful can blame those with less power, and thus be seen as "moral" themselves.


GravatarIf you talk about the war, the masses might start questioning it, and that's a bad thing for Bush Crime Families and other bloodsucking, parasitical things.


GravatarOnce more, with feeling:

Georgie wishes he had friends.

http://swimmingfreestyle.typepad...ture-for- 2.html


GravatarDowhat war now?
-


GravatarMonica_A,
You serious?


GravatarWhat's the coastline in that second photo?
Moe Hussein Szyslak


Left Blogistan, of course.


GravatarCan anyone identify the coastline in the second photo?
Moe Hussein Szyslak


Northern tip of Scotland, I think - around Thurso and Wick.


GravatarThink about the political ramifications were every last 18 year old subject to a draft. No loopholes, no lottery. They pull you out of the drum, son, pick up your khakis and let the man buzzcut you.

I don't like the idea for other reasons. But there's no way we'd still be there if there was a draft, and the same number of seniors from, say, Greenwich (CT) High School were called to serve their country as from Boys and Girls HS in Bed-Stuy.


GravatarOn National Tartan Day, we celebrate the spirit and character of Scottish Americans and recognize their many contributions to our culture and our way of life.

Like the bloody kilt? See a lot of those on Americans, do you?


GravatarHillary's appearance on Leno was terrible. She looked bad she sounded bad and even irrational. Leno set her up by explaining carefully that all Dems had agreed Florida and Michigan wouldn't count and she went forward with her stupid answer that these people would be disenfranchised. She certainly didn't help herself.


GravatarNOW, THEREFORE, I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, ... do hereby proclaim April 6, 2008, as National Tartan Day.

Geez, he actually avoided by two days declaring the 40th anniversary of MLK's assassination "National Tartan Day." After seven years, our presnit are learning.


Gravatarwhat war?

Well, not to begin the picking of the nits, but there is no "war." There is an occupation, however, and it's not going too well.
ThinlyVeiled


Its not a war, its an authorized use of military force.


GravatarDamned waves of coincidence!
Rmj, Unfashionable Theologist


I think we're both watching The Daily Show and Colbert instead.


GravatarWhat's the coastline in that second photo?
Moe Hussein Szyslak


If the sun is setting behind it: Vietnam.


GravatarNightline began airing during the Iran Hostage "crisis". Seems I remember that's all Koppel talked about every night for more than a year.


GravatarGlenn Beck, "I have yet to see
what the government does with gasoline tax." Apparently the Interstate
Highway System is hiding from Glenn Beck.


Gravatar"I have yet to see
what the government does with gasoline tax."

He's probally referring to maintenance and such.


Gravatarbilly b
come on over and jam some real blues with me baby


GravatarCan anyone identify the coastline in the second photo?
Moe Hussein Szyslak


Coastline?

That's not Denny Hastert?


GravatarMission Accomplished!!!!


-


Gravatar"Nightline" is just getting around to covering John McCain's return from Vietnam.


GravatarOT:

From something I posted yesterday about Popline, a federally funded reproductive health search engine run by John Hopkins banning 'abortion' as a search term, even the Dean of the School of Public Health is pissed:

I could not disagree more strongly with this decision, and I have directed that the POPLINE administrators restore "abortion" as a search term immediately. I will also launch an inquiry to determine why this change occurred.

http://www.resourceshelf.com/200...-public-health/


GravatarI think we're both watching The Daily Show and Colbert instead.
Holden Caulfield


Until he showed up on NPR spouting Kissingeresque realpolitik pronouncements, I thought Koppel was dead.


GravatarApparently the Interstate
Highway System is hiding from Glenn Beck.
kei & yuri nobunaga


wouldn't you?


GravatarApparently the Interstate
Highway System is hiding from Glenn Beck.


Glenn Beck's best friends have to identify themselves by biting him in the ass. It's the only way he remembers.


GravatarMonica_A,
You serious?


YES! The tickets will be waiting for you at the box office at the Mann Center on June 18th. Bring a form of I.D. to pick them up. Someone needs to get use out of the tickets. We've gone to exactly one concert since we've been members. Don't even think about paying me back. Consider it a gift.


GravatarLike the bloody kilt? See a lot of those on Americans, do you?

Actually, around here, we do (home of Utilikilts).

And in addition to that, if you continue to badmouth my heritage like that, I will be forced to rent some bagpipes and torture you with my attempts at playing them!


GravatarI actually thought it was your neck of the woods when I looked at it.

Nope. Interesting river, eh?


Gravatari'm watching a show about Sacred Music, last week they covered Palestria and this week its Tallis and Byrd


GravatarGlenn Beck, "I have yet to see
what the government does with gasoline tax." Apparently the Interstate
Highway System is hiding from Glenn Beck.
kei & yuri nobunaga


He thinks it's a natural formation.


GravatarThat's not Denny Hastert?
Holden Caulfield


They're using the Canada Arm to remove a pocket of sub-fold lint.


GravatarMoon,

Thanks for that link, those pictures are simply amazing.

I forwarded them to some co-workers and I can hear them gasping now!


GravatarMonica_A: Rainmaker!


GravatarHow does one tell cynical sons of Nubia that Bush is using MLK day to honor an ethnic group that just happens to be white and not particularly marginalized or persecuted out of stupidity or innocence and not out of hatred that can afford to be lazy because of the power and treasure it sits on?


GravatarThe gas tax is easily evaded and basically unenforceable.


GravatarThe B-52's are doing "Love Shack" on the Ellen Degeneres show. They still sound great.


GravatarIf there are any other Philadelphia residences who want to go to a concert at the Mann, please let me know.


GravatarGlenn Beck's best friends have to identify themselves by biting him in the ass. It's the only way he remembers.

ROFL! I snorted banana bread when I read that.


GravatarThey're using the Canada Arm to remove a pocket of sub-fold lint.
Jay C.


+ Ew!


GravatarGee, and during that time, there were even Americans "held hostage." Where were the yellow ribbons?


GravatarNational Tartan Day is an opportunity to celebrate all Americans who claim Scottish ancestry,

Oh boy, that means the hot dreadlock dude in my borg will be in his kilt next week. Sweet!


Gravatarmonica,
wow. thanks very much. much appreciated.


GravatarRichard Desmond: the pornographer who funded New Labour


GravatarI forwarded them to some co-workers and I can hear them gasping now!
Gummo


or, the guy in the cubicle at the end had bean burritos for lunch...


GravatarWar? wut war?


GravatarNothing to see here, move along.


GravatarThey sound great still.

FYT.


GravatarROFL! I snorted banana bread when I read that

I bet that felt... well, unique at least.


GravatarWhere were the yellow ribbons?
cervantes


Fucking everywhere, sad to say.


GravatarAnd in addition to that, if you continue to badmouth my heritage like that, I will be forced to rent some bagpipes and torture you with my attempts at playing them!

I went to The Citadel. Good luck with that.

Besides which, I said nothing disparaging about my heritage.


GravatarUm, MLK day celebrates Dr. King's birth, not his death.


Gravatarmonica,
wow. thanks very much. much appreciated.


Not a problem.


GravatarMonica_A, You're a wonderful human bean.


GravatarNational Tartar Sauce Day?


GravatarAnd in addition to that, if you continue to badmouth my heritage like that, I will be forced to rent some bagpipes and torture you with my attempts at playing them!

If only the Geneva Conventions still applied!


GravatarResidents. Dammit!


GravatarI forwarded them to some co-workers and I can hear them gasping now!
Gummo


Here's some moar photos to maek U gasp:

http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2...y- caturday.html


GravatarFrom below, FWIW -

Looks like I stumbled into a music screed on Stones vs. Beatles.

I was thinking that the "undone" Stones record is "Return to 2120."

I'd like to see how the 2008 Stones would channel the 1964 Stones - and the blues artists they revered - in the building where they recorded their first US LP.

(And Billy B - the guitarist thing isn't that material - I don't think Keith would have any difficulty dropping into a JLHooker boogie shuffle.)


GravatarMonica_A, You're a wonderful human bean.

I have to do something to make up for my other horrible traits.


Gravatarduring which time more than 300 reports aired, Nightline has effectively ignored the war in Iraq as a news event.

Well, see. There's that damned liberal media for ya!


Gravatar bloggus : The B-52's are doing "Love Shack" on the Ellen Degeneres show. They still sound great.

How awesome -- hopefully I can get a download of this later!


GravatarMonica_A ...you're a peach.


GravatarHere's some moar photos to maek U gasp:

http://plush-life.blogspot.com/2...y- caturday.html
fourlegsgood, kittenslave


Sorry, no.

Your pictures don't make me gasp, they make me "EEEEEEPPPPSSS!"


GravatarI made Holden say "Ew."

For my next trick, it's outdoing bebe rebozo.


GravatarOkay, lunchtime over. BBL.


Gravatarbilly b
come on over and jam some real blues with me baby


I've got the Carvin Strat all set up and tuned in open E. I've got the slide in my pocket and I'm on the way.


Gravatarbilly b
come on over and jam some real blues with me baby
ErinPDX


No flirting!

Erin


GravatarTlazolteotl, thanks. Check my homepage. The first post is parrots, the second is blond animals.


GravatarEnough with the complimenting! My head is already swollen.


GravatarThe excitable Mrs London-Fife /
took after her husband with a knife / the reprehensible lout / had been
caught stepping out / so she cut at the root of their strife


GravatarIf I had to pick a favorite flavor of yogurt I think it would probably be red rasberry.


GravatarThe Hatfields and the McCoys were Scots. See the rich cultural heritage the Scots have brought to the US?


GravatarMeander,

They did two songs, I'm assuming the first one was a new song because I don't recall hearing it... sounded great.


GravatarUm, MLK day celebrates Dr. King's birth, not his death.

I know that. MLK day is in January.

It just so happens that April 4, 2008 is the 40th anniversary of MLK's death, leading to many remembrances. It would have been a bit tone deaf for the administration to toss National Tartan Day in there.


Gravatarqlª


when are you coming out to see your daughters?


GravatarGlenn Beck, "I have yet to see
what the government does with gasoline tax." Apparently the Interstate
Highway System is hiding from Glenn Beck.
kei & yuri nobunaga

He thinks it's a natural formation.
Rmj, Unfashionable Theologist

"And on the 11th Day, God Created I-95. And it had no potholes until Satan began shipping apples in overloaded semis."


GravatarI've got the slide in my pocket and I'm on the way.

Yikes!


GravatarThe Hatfields and the McCoys were Scots. See the rich cultural heritage the Scots have brought to the US?


Don't say that around my Senator!


GravatarEnough with the complimenting! My head is already swollen.
Monica_A: Rejuvenated!


You may all complement me instead.


GravatarMonica A. is the Godfather!!!!


GravatarMonica, you have more than made up for sniffing Atrios.


Gravatarfrom below:

Speaking as a guitar player, they didn't get cranked up until Brian left and Mick T. joined the band.

BB, Bleed, Sticky, Exile

The Grand Slam of Rock and Roll.
Billy B |


nit-picking, but Brian was with the band for Beggar's Banquet.


GravatarSouthern Culture on the SKids?


GravatarI want tickets for the Kingston Trio/dead kennedy's whenever they play together. I'll ask Monica for tickets.


GravatarNever get out of the boat. Absolutely goddamn right.


GravatarYou may all complement me instead.
res ipsa loquitur


What if I mix in some "ironic quotes" and sarcastic italics when I do so?


GravatarOn Sunday, Senator Jim Webb will sit down with George Stephanopoulos on ABC's "This Week" to discuss the current situation in Iraq and upcoming Congressional hearings on Iraq with General David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker. Senator Webb will be joined by Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) who will be appearing via satellite from South Carolina.

Senator Webb has called for a broader regional approach that involves aggressive diplomacy when evaluating the progress in Iraq and solutions for reducing U.S. troop presence in Iraq and bringing stability to this volatile region of the world.



GravatarMost of the people the British used to abuse and oppress the Irish were Scottish or originally Scottish. A rich heritage that was then exported throughout the world.


GravatarAll my joy in National Tartan Day is annihliated by its proclimation by a craven deserting shitbag.


Gravataryeah, but have they covered child molesters?


GravatarWhat if I mix in some "ironic quotes" and sarcastic italics when I do so?




GravatarYou may all complement me instead.
res ipsa loquitur

What are you wearing? I will change into complementary colours.


GravatarThe Hatfields and the McCoys were Scots. See the rich cultural heritage the Scots have brought to the US?

I's related to one of 'em famblies, but ah cain't member which'un.


Gravatarnit-picking, but Brian was with the band for Beggar's Banquet.
hillbilly ragger


Barely.


Sadly.


GravatarThis teacher sex story is completely outrageous! What the fuck kind of public school teacher has a silver Lexus SUV?



GravatarDay 126 of Iraq Held Hostage....


GravatarIf any of you young Philadelphians need tickets to the Kimmel Center, I also have those. It's really a shame that I don't get out to more cultural events.


GravatarSorry, no.

Your pictures don't make me gasp, they make me "EEEEEEPPPPSSS!"


My work here is done..


Gravataryou do understand, Atrios, that you are now beholden to Monica A.

Be prepared to make some sacrifices.


GravatarBarely.

Played a fine slide geetar on "No Expectations," though.


GravatarIf I had to pick a favorite flavor of yogurt I think it would probably be red rasberry.

Columbo used to make peach melba. Yum. Haven't seen it for years, tho.


GravatarIf any of you young Philadelphians need tickets to the Kimmel Center, I also have those. It's really a shame that I don't get out to more cultural events.

Jimmy Kimmel has a Center?


GravatarMost of the people the British used to abuse and oppress the Irish were Scottish or originally Scottish. A rich heritage that was then exported throughout the world.

The Irish are responsible for Pat Buchanan.

The abuse and oppression are more than justified.


GravatarI wanna hear another rendition of those great R&B numbers the Stones made beaucoup money on, like Buddy Holly's "Not Fade Away", Slim Harpo's "I'm a King Bee", Neil Sedaka's "Oh, Carol".

They were a fucking glorified cover band in their early years. Blues rockers my ass.


GravatarI think the term we're looking for here is Republican-Owned Media. It's brief, it's accurate, and it's even an acronym. I think us DFHs should mention the ROM more often.


GravatarYears ago Dan Rather wrote the book "The Camera Never Blinks". The Racketeers have learned just to keep the lens cap on.
Peace.


GravatarI's related to one of 'em famblies, but ah cain't member which'un.
abyssgazer, DraftKang | 04.04.08 - 4:09 pm | #

Than how do you know who to shoot?

BTW -- let's get out of Iraq & then see how big a story it is!


GravatarPlayed a fine slide geetar on "No Expectations," though.
hillbilly ragger


One of my alltime favorite Stones songs.


GravatarEarly evening,
April 4th
A shot rings out
In the Memphis sky
Free at last, they took your life
They could not take your pride.


Gravatarwhen are you coming out to see your daughters?
ErinPDX


If all goes according to plan, next January. Mayhaps we can celebrate the inaugeral of a Dem president together.


GravatarAnd on the 11th Day, God Created I-95. And it had no potholes until Satan began shipping apples in overloaded semis.

I don't say "God bless I-35." I say "God damn I-35."


GravatarJimmy Kimmel has a Center?
watertiger


Sarah Silverman tickets are available 360 days a year!


GravatarMonica A. is the Godfather!!!!

Someday, and that day may never come, Duncan, I'll call upon you to do a service for me. But, until that day, accept these tickets as a gift.


GravatarI's related to one of 'em famblies, but ah cain't member which'un.
abyssgazer, DraftKang | 04.04.08 - 4:09 pm | #

Than how do you know who to shoot?


better shoot 'em all jes t be on the safe side


GravatarThe war in Iraq is no longer news. AFter all if you are going to be there for 100 years, it's not news.


GravatarTorture Lawyers


GravatarDon't say that around my Senator!
Hecate


No shit:

The unifying theme of Webb’s fiction, his popular history of the Scots-Irish, and, especially, his opinion journalism has been that of put-upon people (the military, Southerners, white men) suffering the smug disregard of a hostile élite. In the Webb reckoning, much blame resides in nineteen-sixties-era liberalism, which has influenced the Democratic Party for a generation. That he now finds himself a Democratic candidate in a pivotal U.S. Senate race is a development that proceeds, by its own stubborn logic, from this insistent theme. Webb’s candidacy is partly a quest to reclaim the Democratic Party for what he sees as a natural constituency.


GravatarBipartisan Holocausts aren't photogenic.

Let's watch the Daily Show instead!

No use permitting
Some prophet of doom
To wipe every smile away.
Come hear the music play.
Life is a Cabaret, old chum,
Come to the Cabaret!


GravatarRepublican-Owned Media

I like it


GravatarThe Kimmel Center is really quite splendid!


Gravatarguess who said this:

They don't even do that. They take the side, they endorse the official conspiracy theory, they ridicule the alternative theory and they will not even report the evidence we use. They'll pick up a couple things they think are absurd and mention those, so they take the point of view of cheerleader for the official conspiracy theory and the debunker. So they're not even doing he said-she said, they're just saying he said and she's an idiot.


GravatarThe Scots only started wearing kilts relatively recently, in fact later than the events of "Braveheart," according to that historical accuracy blip article somebody posted a week ago.
also the Scottish clan Menzies has a tartan made up of red splotches on white.


GravatarAnd don't tell me it was Early morning, April 4th.

Bono got it wrong.


Gravatarearly western canadian settlers were mostly Scots and Ukranians.

Probably nobody else would consider living in a sod hut in 50 below.


GravatarIt was early morning in Hawaii.


GravatarTorture Lawyers
Moonbootica


That's one of the more chilling things I've read in my life, that a group of "lawyers" from Washington D.C. traveled to Gitmo to give direct instructions on torture to the interrogators.


GravatarAnd
this is a story that will probably be covered on tv by Keith Olberman.
Peace.


GravatarIf the media refuses to report on it, how can we tell we're really there?


GravatarThat's compliment, goddamnit.

simels etc.

Oh, and Haloscan sux. Just saying.


Gravatarlater, batties.


GravatarNAJAF, Iraq (AP) — The office of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr called Thursday for a "million-strong" turnout for an anti-American demonstration next week to mark the fifth anniversary of the capture of Baghdad by invading U.S. troops.

The statement said protesters should head to the Shiite holy city of Najaf south of Baghdad waving Iraqi flags "to cement the unity of Iraq and demand its independence." It called on demonstrators to "raise your voices high in the skies of Iraq against the oppressing occupier," a term the Sadrists use to describe U.S.-led forces.

The demonstration is to mark the anniversary of the entrance of invading U.S. troops to Baghdad on April 9, 2003.


http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m4270...&hd=&size=1& l=e


GravatarI've got the slide in my pocket and I'm on the way.


wheee
better bring the wife


GravatarI remember a re-enactor website that had one of those 'you might be a re-enactor' pieces. One was 'nobody will go to a historical or war film with you'.


Gravatarnit-picking, but Brian was with the band for Beggar's Banquet.


He played the (excellent) slide on "No Expectations" and I think he played autoharp on a Bleed song.

By that time he was fux deluxe and Miller pretty much had him mixed down.

A movie was made (name escapes) in 1968 about the recording of Sympathy for the Devil. Brian was pretty much shoved in a little cubicle and ignored by then.


GravatarYAY!

the sun it out.

doan noes why, but I am freaking freezing today


GravatarThe demonstration is to mark the anniversary of the entrance of invading U.S. troops to Baghdad on April 9, 2003.

Will there be candy and flowers?


Gravatarabyssgazer, DraftKang ,

Hopefully you're related to the Hatfields...


Inherited disease may have fueled Hatfield-McCoy feud

The most infamous feud in American folklore, the long-running battle between the Hatfields and McCoys, may be partly explained by a rare, inherited disease that can lead to hair-trigger rage and violent outbursts.
Dozens of McCoy descendants apparently have the disease, which causes high blood pressure, racing hearts, severe headaches and too much adrenaline and other "fight or flight" stress hormones.

No one blames the whole feud on this, but doctors say it could help explain some of the clan's notorious behavior.


http://www.usatoday.com/news/hea...y- disease_N.htm


GravatarWe'll compliment you!


GravatarThat's one of the more chilling things I've read in my life, that a
group of "lawyers" from Washington D.C. traveled to Gitmo to give
direct instructions on torture to the interrogators.


Oh, the lawyers just found ways to sneak around prosecution, which is their job. It's not pleasanbt but our legal system has always allowed slimy people to have legal advice, that's how we approximate fairness. The people we want to einsatzgruppen are the doctors and psychiatrists who planned the tortures themselves and developed them over decades at respectable universities like McGill.


Gravatar4Legs, you mean it's not a thousand degrees deep in the heart of TX?


Gravatar(O)(O)


GravatarI think the news black-out is what has caused polling numbers to drift into positive territory vis-a-vis the war.

No news is good news.


=


GravatarBAGHDAD, 3 April 2008 (IRIN) - A new international report says that on 20 March there were some 2,778,305 internally displaced persons (IDPs) in Iraq. Hitherto the figure of 2.2 million IDPs in Iraq had been widely publicised.

The 21-page report - produced by IDP Working Group members consisting of the UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR), the International Organization for Migration (IOM), other UN Agencies and non-governmental organisations (NGOs) - is based on data gathered by the IDP Working Group, and information from the Iraqi Ministry of Displacement and Migration, the Kurdistan Regional Government, the International Committee of the Red Cross and other NGOs.

It said 1,212,108 had been displaced between the fall of Saddam’s regime and February 2006, when a revered Shia shrine in Samarra was blown up, and that a further 1,566,197 were displaced in 2006 and 2007 when the country was engulfed in sectarian violence.

Baghdad hosts more IDPs than any other governorate (563,771 persons). It is followed by Mosul, Dahuk and Diyala governorates, each with over 100,000 individuals; Sulaimaniyah, Babylon and Wassit (over 70,000 persons); and Anbar, Najaf and Karbala (over 50,000). The report said many IDPs remained unregistered with the Ministry of Displacement and Migration and with the Kurdistan Regional Government.


http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m4270...&hd=&size=1& l=e


Gravatarearly western canadian settlers were mostly Scots and Ukranians.



Probably nobody else would consider living in a sod hut in 50 below.

Fascinating.  Just a wealth of information today here.


GravatarI've read that the modern kilt is a creation of the British army -- the first regular Highland Regiment (42nd Regiment of Foot -- aka The Black Watch) originally wearing "the plaid" -- a VERY large square of tartan material that was belted around the waist (giving the appearance of the modern kilt) with the rest usually gathered in a bunch & pinned across one shoulder or alternatively used as a shawl (if it was very chilly) -- OCICBW


Gravatarour legal system has always allowed slimy people to have legal advice

In my experience, slimy people need legal advice more often than others.


GravatarConsidering the origin of Nightline in the hostage-taking in Iran, with its nightly drumbeat banging on the Carter administration in an election year, vis a vis the current pianissimo for a certain administration which shall remain unnamed, you can really appreciate the maestros at the Mighty Wurlitzer. Or not.

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GravatarFascinating. Just a wealth of information today here.

GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian |


You're mocking me, aren't you.


GravatarSo what's happening here?


GravatarDaisey Oopsi - 2nd verse a bit different than the 1st.
This is a story that will probably only be covered on tv on Countdown.
Peace.


GravatarHey Ali, how are you?




Gravatarqlª

i'll drive up to WA


GravatarThe most infamous feud in American folklore, the long-running battle between the Hatfields and McCoys, may be partly explained by a rare, inherited disease that can lead to hair-trigger rage and violent outbursts.
Dozens of McCoy descendants apparently have the disease, which causes high blood pressure, racing hearts, severe headaches and too much adrenaline and other "fight or flight" stress hormones.


Hmmmm...

McCain/McCoy. Coincidence?? You decide.


GravatarI think the news black-out is what has caused polling numbers to drift into positive territory vis-a-vis the war.

Did somebody say something about Paris Hilton?


Gravatar4Legs, you mean it's not a thousand degrees deep in the heart of TX?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


Cold front blew throught his morning and it was frickin' cold at lunch, in the 50s I think.

Sun's coming out now, 70s tomorrow. Probably 80s next week and summer by the end of April.


GravatarNeil Sedaka's "Oh, Carol".


[psssst, max]

Chuck Berry's "Carol"


GravatarBeatles rule
Stones suck
ha!


GravatarI picked a horse for the Grand National, my workplace was running a sweepstake


Gravatar

Hi Sallyh! I'm ok thanks, and you?


GravatarThe Scots only started wearing kilts relatively recently,

Scots have been wearing kilts for more than 1000 years. Tartans are relatively recent.


GravatarA movie was made (name escapes) in 1968 about the recording of Sympathy for the Devil. Brian was pretty much shoved in a little cubicle and ignored by then.
Billy B


The movie was one of Jean-Luc Godard's 'political' movies, One Plus One. The footage of the recording of Sympathy was broken up by hokey (even by the standards of the time) scenes of people declaiming so-called revolutionary dialogue.

Brian's irrelevance to the band he helped found was painful to watch, but the evolution of the song in the studio is fascinating.

But don't go by me, I liked Let It Be too.


GravatarAli, better by nanometers each day. 


GravatarThe Beatles, at one time, had four songs in the top ten US Charts. I'm not sure the Stones ever had one in the top twenty. Maybe Satisfaction.


GravatarBeatles rule
Stones suck
ha!
ErinPDX


Your band sux.

My band shits platinum and pisses champagne.


Gravatari'll drive up to WA
ErinPDX


No need, s.i.l. lives in Easter Oregon. We'll be hooking up with her in Portland.


GravatarEaster=Eastern


GravatarOh my god, media people are the whiniest bunch of privileged twits in this country.

I can't believe how many radio talk shows are crying "free speech!" about the Randi Rhodes thing. Free speech doesn't mean speech without consequences, and certainly offending your boss while on the job is a whole different class of speech.

Take away their microphones, they aren't mature enough to understand the privilege.


GravatarAuntie GWPDA, how are you and Arthur? 

I'm making rigatoni with meatballs and sausage tonight.  Shall I save some for you?


GravatarThe Irish are responsible for Pat Buchanan.

The abuse and oppression are more than justified.
Apprentice to Darth Holden


Don't pin that shithead on me.

We also gave you JFK and RFK and what thanks did we get?


GravatarI managed to pick the favourite as well


Gravatarsully v hitchens on tim russert/msnbc this weekend.

should be entertaining anyway...


GravatarSo what's happening here?

Is that a vampire?


Gravatar4Legs, you mean it's not a thousand degrees deep in the heart of TX?

It's 61.

I have a cold though, can't seem to get warm.


GravatarAn advanced, industrialized European nation has carried death technology further in inventing an actual Futurama-style suicide booth. And yes, it's the country you're thinking of.



GravatarMP, by that standard, Celine Dion is the best vocalist of all time.

Yikes!

I think it was 5 singles in the top 5. I heard it this morning on the radio. Or maybe I didn't hear it right.


GravatarAfter the 49, the English tried to ban the wearing of the kilt.


GravatarThe Beatles, at one time, had four songs in the top ten US Charts. I'm not sure the Stones ever had one in the top twenty. Maybe Satisfaction.
MP


If you judge a band's music by their success in the Billboard charts then we have very little to talk about.

How many songs did The Grateful Dead post on Billboard? One.


And doesn't Debbie Boone still hold the record for the most consecutive weeks at #1?


GravatarGuests on Timmeh's Saturday one hour show -- Sully and Hitch.


GravatarI have a cold though, can't seem to get warm.
fourlegsgood, kittenslave


The EschaCon Cold seems to be making the rounds.


GravatarThe Beatles, at one time, had four songs in the top ten US Charts. I'm not sure the Stones ever had one in the top twenty. Maybe Satisfaction.


heh.

The Stones have had plenty of hits in the top 20. They were never about that. If they had been I wouldn't have been nearly the fan as I am.

At least Keef didn't give a shit about it.


Gravatardamn, cokes above.


GravatarBrian's irrelevance to the band he helped found was painful to watch, but the evolution of the song in the studio is fascinating.

They let Brian play maracas during the band's live performances on "The Rolling Stones' Rock and Roll Circus" in 1968. Then they put the film in a can and waited 30 years to release it (allegedly because The Who blew them off the stage, which IMHO is true).


Gravatar4Legs, sorry to hear that you're ailing.  I'm sure the gurrlz think you should be home in bed (where they can bother you more easily).


GravatarThe Beatles, at one time, had four songs in the top ten US Charts. I'm not sure the Stones ever had one in the top twenty. Maybe Satisfaction.

Start Me Up?


Gravatar

The EschaCon Cold seems to be making the rounds.


you fuckers! Is that what I have?


Gravatarryuichi sakamoto - merry christmas mr. lawrence


Gravataryay!


GravatarCold front blew throught his morning and it was frickin' cold at lunch, in the 50s I think.

Yep.

I went to Maudie's for lunch and they had the AC on.

I was freezing.


GravatarSully's intern

This weekend Andrew will be on Tim Russert's MSNBC show for one hour with Hitchens. The show airs at noon, 6 pm and 2 am Saturday ET, and noon Sunday ET.

Also: he will be on the Chris Matthews show this Sunday morning.


GravatarMP, by that standard, Celine Dion is the best vocalist of all time.

I would listen to teh Beatles covering a Celine Dion hit.


GravatarAnd doesn't Debbie Boone still hold the record for the most consecutive weeks at #1?
Holden Caulfield


And Mariah Carey just passed Presley as the "artist" with the most #1s.

So...


GravatarHopefully you're related to the Hatfields...

Actually, I remember reading about that awhile back. I do believe it's the McCoys I'm related to and, coincidentally(?), I've been taking beta blockers for years for something akin to panic attacks--for example, when I used to laugh, I would do so uncontrollably, to the point of almost passing out.


GravatarLast November, I noted that ABC's Nightline, its long-running signature news program, had essentially boycotted Iraq as a news story. I found that over an 18-week span, from mid-July through late November, Nightline aired approximately 230 separate news segments, only one of which was about events on the ground in Iraq. In the 17 weeks since then, Nightline has continued to look the other way, which means that over a nearly nine-month span, during which time more than 300 reports aired, Nightline has effectively ignored the war in Iraq as a news event.


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what war?


GravatarWe also gave you JFK and RFK and what thanks did we get?
Unrepentant Fenian


Two minutes in the Bill O'Reilly Memorial Penalty Box and Loofah Booth!


GravatarAnnnnnd the 'Edwards' attack on the Clintons commences..."How can poor people support the Clintons, they're not poor?"


Gravatar"Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.

And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: 'We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.'"


.


Gravatar"Eschaton Cold" = The Clap


Gravatarour very capable assistant has returned with beer...it is officially happy hour at the office.


GravatarThe EschaCon Cold seems to be making the rounds.

you fuckers! Is that what I have?
watertiger


Go ahead, make me feel bad for kissing every last one of you on the mouth!


GravatarAnd doesn't Debbie Boone still hold the record for the most consecutive weeks at #1?

You light up my life.


Gravatarif you burn it with some morgan, maybe...


GravatarI noted that ABC's Nightline, its long-running signature news program

Nightline isn't a news program anymore, it's a magazine show. Think People magazine for current events.


Gravatar
you fuckers! Is that what I have?


You could just blame NTodd.  Everyone else does.


GravatarAnd Mariah Carey just passed Presley as the "artist" with the most #1s.

So...
Gummo


Therefore Mariah Carey is greater than The Beatles!


GravatarI would listen to teh Beatles covering a Celine Dion hit.
MP | 04.04.08 - 4:26 pm


How about Celine covering AC/DC?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h? v=FONt47Z0KZg


GravatarGo ahead, make me feel bad for kissing every last one of you on the mouth!

WTF?


GravatarThe Beatles, at one time, had four songs in the top ten US Charts. I'm not sure the Stones ever had one in the top twenty. Maybe Satisfaction.

Start Me Up?
DJ


And maybe a few more


GravatarYou light up my life.
bloggus


Why, thank you, bloggus. I didn't know you cared.


GravatarWe'll compliment you!
RIL's army of groupies


Thank you. Now, to what address shall I send those checks?


GravatarNavajo Nation likely to lose Internet service
Story Highlights
Confusion over billing, bid process means tribe's Internet provider not getting paid

Provider OnSat says it's already $4 million in the hole, so it's going to stop service

U.S. agency that administers service wants tribe to show it chose best provider

Many Navajos use tribe's Wi-Fi signal for work, education, officials say

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/04/...t.ap/ index.html


GravatarSnow see my comment above -- I believe the claim that the modern kilt design rather than wearing a plaid that "looks like" a kilt is 18th century -- clan tartans are 19th century (but this is all subject to dispute)

& I liked Neil Sedaka (but remember the competition)


GravatarGo ahead, make me feel bad for kissing every last one of you on the mouth!
racymind | Homepage |


Now I feel even worse that I didn't go.


GravatarOK, it's apparent that I like the Beats over the Stones. But I do like a lot of what the Rolling Stones released.

Let's leave it at that.


GravatarFor what it's worth, a B-1 bomber has crashed in Qatar. I think that's the second one in the past six months or so.


GravatarThey let Brian play maracas during the band's live performances on "The Rolling Stones' Rock and Roll Circus" in 1968. Then they put the film in a can and waited 30 years to release it (allegedly because The Who blew them off the stage, which IMHO is true).

A zonkkkked out Keith Richards: "Dig the Who, everybody." Awesome.


Gravatar"Eschaton Cold" = The Clap

So the official mascot of EschaCon is crabs?


Gravatarwe always called him Neilia Sedaka.


Gravatar"In a sense we've come to our nation's capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the "unalienable Rights" of "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note, insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked "insufficient funds."

But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity of this nation. And so, we've come to cash this check, a check that will give us upon demand the riches of freedom and the security of justice."


.


GravatarGravatarOK, it's apparent that I like the Beats over the Stones. But I do like a lot of what the Rolling Stones released.

Let's leave it at that.
MP | 04.04.08 - 4:28 pm


I can't imagine life without either of them.


GravatarFor what it's worth, a B-1 bomber has crashed in Qatar. I think that's the second one in the past six months or so.
Glenn


qatar couldn't see it to get out of the way


GravatarTherefore Mariah Carey is greater than The Beatles!

Yes, but does she weigh more than a duck?


GravatarCOLMES: Oh, he's a two-bit Hitler?

COULTER: But yes. It is absolute racialist. If you read Mein Kampf --

COLMES: I see.

COULTER: -- it's all about his Germanic heritage. And this is -- OK, go read it. If you don't believe me --

COLMES: All right, I see.

COULTER: -- you want to read the CliffsNotes version in my column.

COLMES: We should be as wary of Obama as they should have been of Hitler in Nazi Germany?

COULTER: If only people had read Mein Kampf.

COLMES: I just want to get you on the record. We will come right back.


GravatarThey let Brian play maracas during the band's live performances on "The Rolling Stones' Rock and Roll Circus" in 1968. Then they put the film in a can and waited 30 years to release it (allegedly because The Who blew them off the stage, which IMHO is true).

The Who's perofrmance of A Quick One fromthat show can be seen in the fandoc The Kids Are Alright.


GravatarGo ahead, make me feel bad for kissing every last one of you on the mouth!
racymind


Ahem, what happened in Philly, stays in Philly.


GravatarGo ahead, make me feel bad for kissing every last one of you on the mouth!
racymind | Homepage |

Now I feel even worse that I didn't go.
Ali


I'd be satisfied with video.


GravatarGo ahead, make me feel bad for kissing every last one of you on the mouth!

I knew I was missing something; now, like I feel even worse that I couldn't be in Philly.


GravatarOK, it's apparent that I like the Beats over the Stones. But I do like a lot of what the Rolling Stones released.

Let's leave it at that.
MP


MP --

1. Sorry I got so snotty & dismissive before. I was outta line.

2. I love both bands but I think it's demonstrably true that the Stones stayed closer to their blues roots. In fact, that's part of what made the Beatles so popular, the way they merged blues, r&b, country, music hall and pop into a melange no one had ever heard before.

But if you're just talking about which band could really play the blues, it's got to be the Stones....


Gravatar---------------
Many Germans travel to neighboring Switzerland where assisted suicide is not punished.


GravatarI though B1 crashed in Alabama.


GravatarOK -- I didn't get kissed & have no cold -- is celibacy worth it?


GravatarAnne Coulter only knows thsi because she replaced the word "jewss' witH "liberals' in mein kampf and published it as "slander"


GravatarIt isn't just lawyers being sent to Gitmo. Twenty members of the wisc national guard are being sent to "let the public know about the camps conditions".


GravatarGlenn, I sent you mail.


GravatarAnd doesn't Debbie Boone still hold the record for the most consecutive weeks at #1?

She needs a laxative for #2.


GravatarI though B1 crashed in Alabama.
Holden Caulfield


That's later tonight. He hasn't started drinking yet.


GravatarBut if you're just talking about which band could really play the blues, it's got to be the Stones....
Gummo | 04.04.08 - 4:31 pm | #

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oh come on you guys.

as if John Lee Hooker didn't weep when he heard 'Octopus's Garden'


GravatarI think it's demonstrably true that the Stones stayed closer to their blues roots.

That is true.


GravatarWTF?
Snow (D-SC)


Shocked -- or disappointed that you missed out?


GravatarOK -- I didn't get kissed & have no cold -- is celibacy worth it?
Prior Aelred


You're asking THIS crowd?



Gravatarjac, how are things by you?

and leibniz, you always have a way of creating images that...well, let's not say it


Gravatarthis whole brian jones thing really bothers me.
i have no clue why.
it really has no impact on my life.


Gravatar"Eschaton Cold" = The Clap

Officers are treated for a urinary tract infection.

NCOs suffer from venereal disease.

Privates get the clap.


GravatarBlues?

I'd prefer Elmore James -- just sayin ...


GravatarThe Who's perofrmance of A Quick One fromthat show can be seen in the fandoc The Kids Are Alright.

Indeed. IMHO the version in TKAA is superior to that on the RSR&RC because Jeff Stein seems to have gotten the raw footage and completely recut it for TKAA. He shows a lot more Keith Moon (going completely nuts and miming the words as the other guys sing).


GravatarSallyh,

all is well here, if a bit wet.


GravatarOK -- I didn't get kissed & have no cold -- is celibacy worth it?
Prior Aelred


Tough call...


GravatarNow, to what address shall I send those checks?


You could give us something to fill up this bong...


GravatarThe EschaCon Cold seems to be making the rounds.

you fuckers! Is that what I have?
watertiger


Probably. I'm starting to feel better today.


GravatarThe Beatles went pop before the Stones did, but I fucking dig Norwegian Wood.


Gravatarjac, we've got sunshine, and every day gets a tiny bit better.


GravatarPrior - that's for you to decide.


Gravatar



GravatarBlues?

I'd prefer Elmore James -- just sayin ...
Prior Aelred


Luckily, we don't have to choose one over the other.

But I do love the snotty punky energy those young English kids brought to the blues & rock'n'roll in the early 1960s.


GravatarKeith Moon played lead drums!


Gravatarthe Beatles from 'I want to hold your hand' to Revolver' and beyond were on an astounding trajectory of artistic growth


GravatarShocked -- or disappointed that you missed out?

Both. Disappointed. And shocked racy would say every last one of you.


GravatarThat's great, Sallyh!


GravatarThe EschaCon Cold seems to be making the rounds.

you fuckers! Is that what I have?


Yes.

I blame Flory.


GravatarHe shows a lot more Keith Moon (going completely nuts and miming the words as the other guys sing).

I've always liked the opening of The Kids Are Alright when The Who are lip-syncing My Generation on the Smothers Brothers Show. On the soundtrack you hear these wonderful drum riffs while Moonie is throwing his sticks in the air.


Gravatarwatertiger --

Back in the GOD (good ol' days) when my vacations used to be scheduled around Grateful Dead tours, it even had a name -- Tour Ick. It was the nonspecific bronchial infection everyone seemed to get after a week or two on the road following the Dead from show to show....


GravatarAnd shocked racy would say every last one of you.
Snow (D-SC)


WTF?


GravatarYou could give us something to fill up this bong...
RIL's army of groupies


I wish I could accommodate you on that score, not just because it would be my pleasure, but, well, because it would also be my pleasure.


Gravatarjac, we've got sunshine, and every day gets a tiny bit better.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 04.04.08 - 4:34 pm | #



you've got to admit it's getting better


GravatarSo, not blues artists but rock and roll with a side of blues?

One of my favourites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i...h? v=i04a9PhafgM


Gravatarkeep this blues fiction coming, y'all r killin me



Gravatarhttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ar...4/ MNKRVVATR.DTL

ap on McCain and his wife's money.
If your newspaper allows comments you should go in and refer people to the FEC petition at firedoglake


Gravatarjac, I'm a ways from saying I'm doing well.  But I'm moving in that general direction. 

Gotten used to the new meds; I was kind of foggy the first few days I was on them.  That's pretty much disappeared.  Mood swings seem under control.


GravatarB1 bomber cost > 1 Billion per plane, iirc


GravatarCanadian journalists visited Gitmo with a guided tour of other international journalists and it was honestly just like something out of the Soviet Union or Iran or Burma or something. The group had to be hurried out of a hallway because inmates (who could not see them) realized they were there and  began loudly begging for a telephone; afterwards the commander insisted he had never seen [sic] them like that. It was straight out of a fucking police state. They referred to the interrogation room as an appointment room because you had to have an appointment to go, get it?


GravatarIS this the program that was responsible for bringing us the Day 444 Hostages held in Iran programming. Updating us nitely on that saga?

Wonder why they don't remind it's viewers what day number it is the IRaq War is entering? (I believe it's Day 1841), and the daily updated counts of those killed, wounded full for a full remembrance/honor for the fallen? How bout a tally of the Daily cost update to taxpayers?

Oh never mind....no one would be interested in that type of programming (you knew the same programming that actually started Niteline)

Oh never mind.


Gravatarthe Beatles from 'I want to hold your hand' to Revolver' and beyond were on an astounding trajectory of artistic growth
juan non


Has there ever been anything like it in pop music before or since?


Gravatarqatar couldn't see it to get out of the way
::matthew


lol
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GravatarI'm planning on watching the BBC series "Planet Earth" soon... Should I go with the original version narrated by David Attenborough or the American release narrated by Sigourney Weaver?


Gravatarmy dislike for the Who borders on pathological


GravatarB1 bomber cost > 1 Billion per plane, iirc
mogwai


Didn't Jimmy Carter try to kill it?


GravatarI never really liked the Grateful Dead


Gravatarmy dislike for the Who borders on pathological


me too!


GravatarKeith Moon played lead drums!
Prior Aelred


Indeed he did. So did John Bonham. His drum work on Kashmir is wonderful.


GravatarTwo minutes in the Bill O'Reilly Memorial Penalty Box and Loofah Booth!
Jay C.


Thanks for not bringing up Sean Hannity.

I love The Stones but they owe a debt to Chuck Berry that can never be repaid.


GravatarDidn't Jimmy Carter try to kill it?
Holden Caulfield



Indeed he did... and it was forever before they ever used it... and now look


GravatarRight now I've got some 1950s Howlin' Wolf playing softly -- and that's a contradiction in terms right there....


GravatarDidn't Jimmy Carter try to kill it?

We're not even using them.


GravatarI never really liked the Grateful Dead

And you call yourself a programmer?!


GravatarOn the soundtrack you hear these wonderful drum riffs while Moonie is throwing his sticks in the air.

He must have hated miming to prerecorded tracks. He barely pretended he was really playing. It makes a lot of the old TV appearances especially entertaining. It is more satisfying, however, to see him actually playing live (such as on A Quick One and Shout & Shimmy).


GravatarAs said above, your favorite band sucks.


GravatarHas there ever been anything like it in pop music before or since?
Gummo | 04.04.08 - 4:37 pm | #


I don't think so.


GravatarIndeed he did. So did John Bonham. His drum work on Kashmir is wonderful.
MP


"When the Levee Breaks."


Gravatarmy dislike for the Who borders on pathological

Horton Hurts a Who?


GravatarI never really liked the Grateful Dead


There's no middle ground there.

They were a love/hate phenomenon.


Gravatarjust so you folks may be better able to understand my coulter fetish, think of rodeo sex. i'd whisper intelligent, compassionate, hopeful things in her ear and then see if i could hang on for 8 seconds...


GravatarOkay, what asshole is setting off the alarm in the elevator?


GravatarI never really liked the Grateful Dead
elkal


Moi aussi.


GravatarI never really liked the Grateful Dead


There's no middle ground there.

They were a love/hate phenomenon.
Gummo


I never liked them either.

THe tie-dye was kewl tho


Gravataroh come on you guys.

as if John Lee Hooker didn't weep when he heard 'Octopus's Garden'
juan non

FYI - Ruth Brown DID record a cover of "Yesterday" around 1968.


GravatarThe Who
and
Rush


AAARRRGGGHHHHHH

purely subjective of course.


GravatarOkay, what asshole is setting off the alarm in the elevator?
fourlegsgood, kittenslave


The asshole who's stuck in there?


GravatarBig wind blew threw.
http://www.wlbt.com/global/story...y.asp? s=8119824
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GravatarReally, you'd think someone who selected a nom de guerre from an REM song could get a couple of tickets to the show, but noooo. Guess I ruined it for them.


GravatarYou can kill a lot of wedding parties with a B1 Bomber.


Gravatarmy dislike for the Who borders on pathological

If you see the Who coming toward you on the street, do you cross over to the other side?


GravatarI liked The Grateful Dead. Never too fanatically though, unless controlled substances make up for tour attendance.


Gravataras if John Lee Hooker didn't weep when he heard 'Octopus's Garden'
juan non


A how-how-how-how!


Gravatarjust so you folks may be better able to understand my coulter fetish -------------------------------------
fokowi


I stopped reading there.

Thought you'd like to know.


GravatarLou Reed was quoted way back in the 70s as saying that he would love to hear Frank Sinatra cover "Heroin."


GravatarI mustn't have taken enough drugs to be a deadhead.

Now, Pat Boone that was music!


GravatarFROM CNN’s Jack Cafferty:

Here’s something General David Petraeus probably doesn’t want to talk about when he delivers his Iraq progress report to Congress next week: More than 1,000 Iraqi soldiers and police refused to fight during the battle against Shiite militias in Basra last week. One senior U.S. military official puts it this way: “They put down their arms, walked away, deserted, whatever you want to call it.”

Remember how President Bush said when the Iraqis stand up, the United States can stand down? But what do we do if they just run away? The New York Times reports that the deserters included dozens of officers, including at least two senior field commanders.


GravatarDidn't Sinatra say Yesterday was the best composition ever?

As opposed to Yesterdays, which also rocks my world.


GravatarThe Doors.

Not one bad album.


GravatarFYI - Ruth Brown DID record a cover of "Yesterday" around 1968.
Roadmaster, Whitewalled | Homepage | 04.04.08 - 4:40 pm | #


nina simone has done a lot of dylan covers......

man do i love her 'you put a spell on me'........


GravatarAnd for the surreal, Jimmy McCracklin did a version of "These Boots are Made For Walkin'."

Seriously.


GravatarNightline has gone down the tubes since Ted Koppel was fired.

No war coverage -- but we've got an exclusive interview with Jose Canseco to look forward too!


GravatarYou can kill a lot of wedding parties with a B1 Bomber.
leibniz♘☮


Yes, they have been used in Afghanistan.


GravatarThe asshole who's stuck in there?
V for Virginia




I gots to hand this one to ya


GravatarOkay, what asshole is setting off the alarm in the elevator?
fourlegsgood, kittenslave

The asshole who's stuck in there?
V for Virginia




Fuck 'em - it's Friday!


Gravatar"Nobody's Fault But Mine" also gave Messr. Bonham a workout.


GravatarDavid Attenborough or the American release narrated by Sigourney Weaver

well, Sir David is THE MAN, but sigourney's version was very good, more feel in her voice...i think i may have seen both, know i saw teh weaver narrated one - can't go wrong either way


GravatarThis is great. Associated Press is running a story about McCain and his wife's money. If your local newspaper allows comments, please post about his current troubles at the FEC and ask people to sign the petition at http://firedoglake.com/

link to the SF Chronicle version but look in your local paperr
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ar...4/ MNKRVVATR.DTL


Gravatarjust so you folks may be better able to understand my coulter fetish -------------------------------------
fokowi

I stopped reading there.

Thought you'd like to know.
jac


I read the whole thing, and now I need a lobotomy.


Gravatarbye for now


GravatarThe Beatles went pop before the Stones did, but I fucking dig Norwegian Wood.

There's not very much close-harmony singing recorded in the meantime that's got anything on "Because".


GravatarI mustn't have taken enough drugs to be a deadhead.
trifecta


Common misconception.

One of the best shows I ever saw, I had NO drugs whatsoever, licit or ill-.

Show lasted 5 hours and I had a wonderful time.


GravatarIf you see the Who coming toward you on the street, do you cross over to the other side?
Hussein Doghiney (D-TX) | 04.04.08 - 4:41 pm | #

heh.
old joke about canadians:

when a canadian comes to a fork in the road

he takes it


GravatarAnd the band played Waltzing Matilda
As they carried us down the gangway
And nobody cheered
they just stood and stared
Then they turned their faces away.


GravatarPrior A,

There is a copy of "Raging Bull" en route to you.


Gravatarexcellent news on the presidential polling front!

electoral-vote.com has been keeping a daily roundup of state polls for obama/mccain and clinton/mccain, and applying them to the electoral map to get a snapshot of electoral vote according to these state by state matchups

if you believe the polls, that is...

both barack and hillary have suffered badly in this measurement in the past week, presumably because of campaign B.S. & etc, but, with new polls in the past couple of days, we have recovered!



clinton 265 mccain 262

http://www.electoral-vote.com/ev...Maps/ Apr04.html

obama 261 mccain 268

http://www.electoral-vote.com/ev...Maps/ Apr04.html

.


GravatarThought you'd like to know.
jac | 04.04.08 - 4:41 pm | #


you didn't miss much...


Gravatar"I have been to the mountain-top, I've seen over the horizon, and let me tell you, you niggas ain't got nothin to celebrate. I can't go there with you, I'm moving to Canada." --MLK imitating prologoue to Asheru, Niggas


GravatarThe Doors.

Not one bad album.


Did you ever listen to any of the stuff they put out after Jim died?

ZOMG.


GravatarThe Who
and
Rush


AAARRRGGGHHHHHH

purely subjective of course.
juan non | 04.04.08 - 4:40 pm


There's where we part company. No matter how bad Rush can be (and that's pretty damn bad), I can't hate a band that was played continually throughout my teen years.

They even played my high school!


Gravatar"Nobody's Fault But Mine" also gave Messr. Bonham a workout.

Black Dog.

Wows.


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l...h? v=lVdTQ3OPtGY


GravatarLove me Dude was pretty risque by the Beatles. Love me dude. You know I love you!

/emily latella


Gravataryou didn't miss much...
fokowi




Gravatarhear Frank Sinatra cover "Heroin."
Gummo

That woudl be Like the Richard Cheese cover of "Closer"


GravatarTPM: Bill and Hill tax returns reveal that they earned over $109 million since 2000.


GravatarThe Doors.

Not one bad album.
Unrepentant Fenian


Never much cared for them. Too dark for me.

Now The Archies, those were some musicians . . .


GravatarNever any group like the Beatles -- so much development in such a short time -- whole so much greater than the sum of the parts


GravatarThere's where we part company. No matter how bad Rush can be (and that's pretty damn bad), I can't hate a band that was played continually throughout my teen years.

They even played my high school!
Ali | Homepage | 04.04.08 - 4:43 pm | #

in your high school???????


Gravatar
Now, Pat Boone that was music!


You are a very sick man.


GravatarThere's not very much close-harmony singing recorded in the meantime that's got anything on "Because".
theodoric of athens


Have you heard Love? The version of "Because" on there gives me goosebumps.


GravatarNow The Archies, those were some musicians . . .
V for Virginia


DON'T MOCK VERONICA, SUGAR-SUGAR!


GravatarThere's not very much close-harmony singing recorded in the meantime that's got anything on "Because".
theodoric of athens


"Because" is just a gorgeous song. And it's the Beatles showing off.


GravatarThanks mogwai, I'll probably wind up seeing both versions too.


GravatarNow The Archies, those were some musicians . . .

Yummy yummy yummy
I got love in my tummy

I think they stuck a plastic record of that tune in a comic book at one point.


Gravatarhey, we could be in rumania with Bush listening to Zamfir.


GravatarTPM: Bill and Hill tax returns reveal that they earned over $109 million since 2000.
Dora Suarez


Those.

BASTARDS.


Gravatar108 million over seven years -chump change

If you want to see greed -look at Rudy
and what he charges for speeches etc.


GravatarNow The Archies, those were some musicians . . .
V for Virginia | Homepage | 04.04.08 - 4:44 pm | #



I've got a bootleg of their unreleased Egyptian Book of the UnDead double album............


GravatarHappened to hear the Velvets Rock and Roll while dutifully standing by during Mrs. Holden's mall shopping last night.

Made it all worthwhile.


GravatarSallyh,
You have mail back at you.


GravatarThey even played my high school!
Ali


Ha! We had Buddy Rich come play our high school. That was freaking AWESOME.


GravatarNow The Archies, those were some musicians . . .
V for Virginia


They weren't the same after jughead's OD and the incident with the mars bar and veronica


GravatarDid you ever listen to any of the stuff they put out after Jim died?

Other Voices LP

The one saving grace is that John Desnmore will not sell the rights to the Doors music to anyone thus no commercials being made with Doors music.

Cadillac wanted to use the Door's "Break on through" and offered the Doors crazy money for the song and Densmore said no so GM bought that Led Zep song for their commercial.


Gravatar"Nobody's Fault But Mine" also gave Messr. Bonham a workout.

Black Dog.

Wows.
bloggus


"Fool in the Rain"


Gravatarhey, we could be in rumania with Bush listening to Zamfir.
theodoric of athens


Chimpy is Master of the Skin Flute.


GravatarYep, Juan, back in 73 or 74 they played at our high school dance.


GravatarThe B-1's safety record has not been good -- basic engineering realities about structural metallic strengths & swing wing designs come into play -- but basically they fall down a lot


Gravatar"For those of you who are black and are tempted to ... be filled with hatred and mistrust of the injustice of such an act, against all white people, I would only say that I can also feel in my own heart the same kind of feeling," he said. "I had a member of my family killed, but he was killed by a white man."

"My favorite poem, my — my favorite poet was Aeschylus. And he once wrote:

Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget
falls drop by drop upon the heart,
until, in our own despair,
against our will,
comes wisdom
through the awful grace of God.

"What we need in the United States is not division; what we need in the United States is not hatred; what we need in the United States is not violence and lawlessness, but is love, and wisdom, and compassion toward one another, and a feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or whether they be black."


The next night James Brown rocked Boston Garden.


GravatarBig Dog has made a ton off speeches. Wicked amount of money.

As long as there is no quid pro quo, it's a living.


GravatarHave you heard Love? The version of "Because" on there gives me goosebumps.
V for Virginia | Homepage | 04.04.08 - 4:46 pm | #

incredible CD.

oh, and sorry but the DC5 also released a song called 'Because'......(dave clark 5)


GravatarThey weren't the same after jughead's OD and the incident with the mars bar and veronica
olexicon, Burger King David


Just because they were more famous than Jesus, the media blew everything out of proportion.


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch? v=H...feature=related

Don't murder me!


Gravatar
Chimpy is Master of the Skin Flute.


With him it's a pennywhistle.


GravatarIf you want to see greed -look at Rudy
and what he charges for speeches etc.
Liars for McCaca


"Trust me, that miserable little Dago isn't getting as much as he used to before he fucked up that campaign."

/Judith Stich Ross Nathan Guiliani


Gravataroh, and sorry but the DC5 also released a song called 'Because'......(dave clark 5)
juan non


Yeah? Why?


GravatarShut up, Butler.


Gravatarmy dislike for the Who borders on pathological


I like the Who better now than I did in younger days.


GravatarGM bought that Led Zep song for their commercial

I blame GM for Led Zeppelin's not reuniting for a U.S. tour.

Why tour when GM is paying the bills?


Gravatarsorry it's teh B2 stealth that is 1 billion...teh B1 was 280 million a piece


GravatarJust because they were more famous than Jesus, the media blew everything out of proportion.
V for Virginia


Then Reggie choked on his own vomit


Gravatarmy brothers band played a high school dance when they had only learned 2 songs.


it was of course a debacle


GravatarDidn't Sinatra say Yesterday was the best composition ever?

Probably not so blanket:

Frank Sinatra was particularly impressed with "Something". Calling it "the greatest love song ever written", he sang it hundreds of times at various concerts. However, he once made the comment that "Something" was his all-time favourite Lennon-McCartney song [16], and frequently introduced it as a Lennon/McCartney composition (the joke being that it was written by Harrison). Harrison did not appear to mind this, and instead borrowed an alteration to the lyric that Sinatra had made. Where the original song was "You stick around now it may show", Sinatra sang "You stick around, Jack, she might show." This change was eagerly adopted by Harrison, who used the same lyrics whenever he performed "Something" as part of his touring repertoire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something

Or so.
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GravatarThe next night James Brown rocked Boston Garden.

And RFK was off the cuff, as I recall reading.


GravatarJackson 5:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s...h? v=sgObIx5bihQ


GravatarMogwai, did I see you say you're in CT? Whereabouts?

---


Gravatarthe Beatles from 'I want to hold your hand' to Revolver' and beyond were on an astounding trajectory of artistic growth

i think the transformation of american/british popular music from 1962 to 1968 is utterly amazing

american culture changed rapidly from the 20s through the 60s, but has slowed down noticeably since then

but i was too wasted to notice...

.


GravatarYeah? Why?
jac | 04.04.08 - 4:49 pm | #


hey it was pretty good actually.


GravatarDood, Led Zepp sold GM that song. Nobody made 'em do it.


GravatarThen Reggie choked on his own vomit
olexicon, Burger King David


It wasn't his vomit, or so I heard, but it's kind of hard to dust for . . .


Gravatarmy brothers band played a high school dance when they had only learned 2 songs.


it was of course a debacle
juan non | 04.04.08 - 4:50 pm




Gravatarmy brothers band played a high school dance when they had only learned 2 songs.

it was of course a debacle
juan non


Ouch.


GravatarThe rest of the World anticipating a HRC
Presidency: "My fellow Americans, I drank a pint of walrus milk once
for a bet. I speak fluent Eskimo. I once ate all the gherkins in
Belgium..."


Gravatar1 billion dollars for a B1? Do you know how many hours of WAR that could have bought us in Iraq? What a waste!


GravatarAnd RFK was off the cuff, as I recall reading.
res ipsa loquitur


And 2 months later he was dead.


IIRC Indy was the one of the only big cities not to riot.


GravatarThere's not very much close-harmony singing recorded in the meantime that's got anything on "Because".
theodoric of athens

"Because" is just a gorgeous song. And it's the Beatles showing off.
MP


According to George Martin, that's 3-part harmony overdubbed twice, for a total of 9 voices.

Pretty freakin' cool.


Gravatarthe new originals?


GravatarLed Zep had this huge sweaty aggressive Brit as their manager. I forget his name.


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch? v=s...feature=related

Steal your face right off your head!


GravatarThat was RFK's speed I quoted.


Gravatarres ipsa! DOMO!

FWIW -- I never got the Grateful Dead OR Rush -- my music was of the end of the 60s & beginning of the 70s -- heard some Hendrix today -- that don't get outdated! The only bad thing about Little Wing was that it was posthumous!


GravatarListen to the Flower People


GravatarRudy is making refunds.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/ ...sbucksback.html


Gravatar#9
yet again


GravatarLed Zep had this huge sweaty aggressive Brit as their manager. I forget his name.
MP


Ian Faith.


GravatarThere's where we part company. No matter how bad Rush can be (and that's pretty damn bad), I can't hate a band that was played continually throughout my teen years.

Ali

I can.

The only Rush you'll catch me playing is OTIS Rush.

Well, OK, Tom Rush at times, too.


GravatarHey maybe I could make some money giving speeches? How about at the National Association of Broadcasters.

"Why your support of Hate Radio is going to cost you money." -By Spocko with backup by Spockettes.


GravatarDood, Led Zepp sold GM that song. Nobody made 'em do it.

In reality, I think Led Zep won't tour because Robert Plant doesn't ever want to sing in that upper register again.

He's in a completely different place on the Alison Krauss record, and he rarely sounds like he's in pain.


GravatarKill Zamfir.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...h? v=0Wv3Ya9nskA


GravatarGlenn, I replied to your reply


GravatarThe only musician who ever played our high school was Buzzy Linhart.

We thought that was pretty cool at the time.


GravatarLed Zep had this huge sweaty aggressive Brit as their manager. I forget his name.
MP


Ian Faith?


GravatarPeter Grant right?


GravatarSorry res ipsa.
I'm sleepy.


GravatarHolden, by the way, I know cherry tomatoes have been around forever with the native Americans but the ones you eat are GMO. Genetically Modidified Organisms.


Gravatar"Why your support of Hate Radio is going to cost you money." -By Spocko with backup by Spockettes.
Spocko |


Oooh, oooh, I wanna be a Spockette!


GravatarI oiwe jac a jac and coke


GravatarLed Zep had this huge sweaty aggressive Brit as their manager. I forget his name.

Peter Grant. They credit him with making them rich.


Gravatar olexicon, Burger King David | 04.04.08 - 4:54 pm

Coke me, Moose Jaw.


GravatarDood, Led Zepp sold GM that song. Nobody made 'em do it.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 04.04.08 - 4:51 pm | #


Interesting story behind that.

I worked for one of the agencies involved. The lead agency came up with the "Break Through" concept and wanted touse the Door's "Break on Through" as its theme. Two of the surviving members were OK with it, but the drummer was adamantly opposed, as he's a staunch environmentalist.

Yikes.

So somehow, someone got in totuch with Led Zep, and found that Plant is a HUGE Cadillac fan. That's how "Rock n' Roll" became the theme, although we never changed the "Break Through" tagline.

---


Gravatarthanks Quentin


GravatarCoke to UF.


GravatarIn the PBS special they had on Ahmet Ertegun, Mick Jagger was interviewed saying that the Zep manager told him her could have the band's coke, or Jimmy Page's coke, or his own stuff.


GravatarGood scene of Grant in the "Sound Remains the Same" movie yelling at some kids hawking t shirts or something.


Gravatari'm proudly lowering the intellectual discourse everywhere i go today. come to think of it now actually, i do it everyday...


GravatarYou may not like The Who (I do, and don't mention your dislike to Atta), but Led Zepplin was an intentional aping of The Who -- from the lead drummer and power guitarist right down to the curly-haired blonde lead singer.

Of course John Paul Jones couldn't carry John Entwhistle's guitar strap...


GravatarMogwai, did I see you say you're in CT? Whereabouts?

middletown, in teh middle


GravatarStones? Beatles? Bahh.

Now Super Tramp! There was a band!

Take the long way home!
Breakfast in America!
WOOOOT!!!


Gravatarfokowi, and I'm proud of you for it


GravatarInteresting story behind that.

And I should have said, they licensed it to GM, not "sold" it.


GravatarHerman's Hermits Bitches!


GravatarNow Super Tramp! There was a band!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!


Gravatari'm proudly lowering the intellectual discourse everywhere i go today. come to think of it now actually, i do it everyday...

Me, too.
Dumbing Down Discourse Since April 4, 1968.


GravatarBread fans?

That horse had no name. Made me sad. Bless them for calling attention to his plight.


GravatarI have a pretty good recording of the Zep reunion from December, and they sound damn good.

Yes, they lowered some of the songs a step in deference to Plant's voice, but otherwise it's as good as anything I've heard'em do.


GravatarLed Zepplin was an intentional aping of The Who -- from the lead drummer and power guitarist right down to the curly-haired blonde lead singer.
Holden Caulfield


Yeah, well, the Monkees started as a Beatles rip-off, and look how THEY developed.


GravatarOf course John Paul Jones couldn't carry John Entwhistle's guitar strap...
Holden Caulfield


I think you are being unfair to JPJ... but Ent rocked harder, yes


GravatarThe B-1 is just the latest incarnation of a replacement for the B-52. The B-58 and B-70 both failed. Carter killed the B-1. Reagan revived it. The B-1 failed to replace the B-52 for all of the reasons the B-70 failed. But Reagan wanted his toy.


GravatarBTW -- @ EschaCon 05, Paul Krugman was our rock star -- in 08 it was Spocko!


Gravataraiiight, i'm going home. enough of this tomfoolery.


Gravatarhey, sallyh. you cool?


Gravatarmiddletown, in teh middle
mogwai | Homepage | 04.04.08 - 4:56 pm | #


Ah. I work down in SoNorwalk. The description you gave on an earlier thread sounded a bit like here...

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GravatarOf course John Paul Jones couldn't carry John Entwhistle's guitar strap...
Holden Caulfield

I think you are being unfair to JPJ... but Ent rocked harder, yes
racymind


And both were multi-instrumentalists.


GravatarOf course John Paul Jones couldn't carry John Entwhistle's guitar strap...

JPJ is a highly accomplished but conventional bass player, IMHO. He's a great keyboard player and composer, too.

Entwistle was utterly unique and a genius, also IMHO. I met Entwistle at a Fort Worth gig in 1998. His band played two hours of stadium-loud rock to an audience of about 50, then came out to sign autographs afterward. It was kewl.


GravatarThere's no telling what GMOs they're slipping past us these days. I know Mayonaise has modified shit and so do corn chips.


GravatarOf course John Paul Jones couldn't carry John Entwhistle's guitar strap...
Holden Caulfield


I agree, although I love Jone's work on The Lemon Song.


GravatarNow Super Tramp! There was a band!

So you think you're a Romeo,
playing a part in a picture show.


GravatarThe B-1 is just the latest incarnation of a replacement for the B-52.
Snow (D-SC)


No one will EVER replace the B52s, dude.


GravatarI think you are being unfair to JPJ... but Ent rocked harder, yes
racymind


What a way to go with hookers and blow.


GravatarI think you are being unfair to JPJ... but Ent rocked harder, yes

John Paul Jones has not yet begun to rock.


GravatarGood scene of Grant in the "Sound Remains the Same" movie yelling at some kids hawking t shirts or something.

"Oh oh it's everyone else makes money off of Led Zeppelin" etc.


GravatarI think you are being unfair to JPJ... but Ent rocked harder, yes
racymind


Entwhistle was unique. He didn't just rock harder, he played his instrument as no one else ever had.

Jones was competent.


GravatarIn the PBS special they had on Ahmet Ertegun

Part of the Scorsese doc is filmed at the Beacon during a 60th bday celebration for Bill Clinton. Ertegun fell backstage and hit his head during that gig and died later.

In the wingnut version fo this tale, HRC and WJC murdered Ertegun.


GravatarI read somewhere that John Bonham admitted to stealing all of the Funky Drummer's licks.


GravatarOooh, oooh, I wanna be a Spockette!

V for Virginia

Now you are.

(V is also the first letter in Vulcan.)


GravatarThe only bad thing about Little Wing was that it was short

Fender'd yonder typo


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...h? v=0K5mVDRkN1c

Everyone loves a parade!


GravatarIt suddenly occurs to me that we are NOT discussing the war.



GravatarShut up, Butler.


GravatarDon't Talk About The War

I expect we'll hear even less bad news from Iraq now that the war is wrapped around McStain's neck like a fucking millstone.


GravatarIn the wingnut version fo this tale, HRC and WJC murdered Ertegun.

I wondered why that polar bear was there.


Gravatardrinking and thinking begins in 4 minutes. catch you dfh's later...


GravatarOK, I think I'll go somewhere and do something. Or something.

Later, fascists.


GravatarSaw a documentary on the who just recently and Townshend said that a couple times in the 90's they went on tour just so John Entwhistle could stay out of debt. John Entwhistle was a financial bubble head with like 5 ex wives and he went broke often and begged the others to tour so he could pay off creditors. Kind of sad.


GravatarI think Zep took the blues roots into metal as well as any group.


GravatarSpeaking of The Archies...

These are actual Archies comic book covers.

http://www.getafreemonkey.com/ sc...ecklace_big.jpg

http://www.getafreemonkey.com/ sc...beatoff_big.jpg

http://www.getafreemonkey.com/ sc...jughead_big.jpg


GravatarBTW -- yesterday heard a cover of a Led Zep song -- had to turn it up to realize that it wasn't Plant -- forget the title now -- from In Through the Out Door -- group was something like OAR -- izzat right?

Snow on bombers -- that's about right -- I remember the B-58 Hustler -- which was impressive until the Soviets shot down a U-2 -- those old B-52s have great linger time (suicide over a super power -- not so much when the enemy has no air force of defensive capability)


GravatarIs Holden mistreating the help again?


GravatarI think Zep took the blues roots into metal as well as any group.
MP


Indeed. Would there be "Metal" without Zep?


And my point before was there may not have been a Zep without The Who.


GravatarThen again, maybe not...


Gravatar403 Forbidden

I hate it when that happens.

BTW, one of the best Mad parodies ever was Starchie.


GravatarIn the PBS special they had on Ahmet Ertegun

That Doc was amazing. Atlantic records Ahmet Ertegun.


GravatarMore evidence that John Yoo was the most powerful deputy assistant attorney general in the Justice Department's history. The Washington Post reports this morning that when Yoo issued his now-infamous March 14, 2003 memo to the Pentagon, neither Attorney General John Ashcroft, nor his deputy Larry Thompson "were aware."
http:// tpmmuckraker.talkingpoint..._sign_off_o.php

What the hell was going on in that place?


GravatarI expect we'll hear even less bad news from Iraq now that the war is wrapped around McStain's neck like a fucking millstone.


I think that the war has, as they say, already been discounted, political marketwise.
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GravatarObama should adopt Zep's "Immigrant Song" as his campaign's theme song.


GravatarMasterD, damn yankee,

If you're still here, will you please email me at resipsaloquitur_2004 {at} {yahoo} {dot} {commie} ?


GravatarWar?

(what is it good for?)


GravatarAs long as there is no quid pro quo, it's a living.
trifecta


He got $20 million as an advance for his book alone. I'm sure it's made more than that.


GravatarKind of sad.
Unrepentant Fenian


ODing on coke in a Vegas hotel room the night before your band was to kick off a reunion tour was sad as well.


Gravatar"President Bush promised NATO allies at a summit that ended in Bucharest, Romania, on Friday that the United States would increase forces in Afghanistan next year"

Uhhhhh-- what's this "next year" shit? He's supposed to be happily dangling his toes in the largest aquafiore on the continent I thot.
compressed circuit | 04.04.08 - 4:55 pm | #


GravatarSufferin, are you having a birthday today?


GravatarPrior A,

Qu'est ce que "DOMO" ?


GravatarJohn Entwhistle was a financial bubble head with like 5 ex wives and he went broke often and begged the others to tour so he could pay off creditors. Kind of sad.
Unrepentant Fenian


Kinda like Fleetwood Mac with Mick Fleetwood.

There was actually an article on him years ago in the New York Times Business section, about how he had screwed up his finances, declared bankruptcy multiple times, etc. According to the article, though, that was all in the past...


GravatarJonathon Turley just pointed out that the US didn't have torture. We had a torture program--well thought out, planned and executed. War crime er wot?
compressed circuit | 04.04.08 - 4:57 pm | #


GravatarJohn Entwhistle was a financial bubble head with like 5 ex wives and he went broke often and begged the others to tour so he could pay off creditors. Kind of sad.

Pete has written that he feels greater freedom to work with The Who now that the feeling of financial obligation to Entwistle is gone. He admits he was reluctant to drag the greatest hits show around the world just to support a shop-a-holic.


GravatarDumbing Down Discourse Since April 4, 1968.
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash |


Is it your birthday? Were you ever gonna mention it, or what?


GravatarWhat the hell was going on in that place?

What's been going on all over Washington over the past seven years. Government within the government.
See Dick Cheney for further details.


GravatarI'm heading home shortly, but before I go I wanted to interject Little Feat into this discussion of terrific bands. I really miss Lowell George. (I know; I'm old.)


GravatarI hate it when that happens.

This is better-

http://www.getafreemonkey.com/ar...hie- comics.html


GravatarObama should adopt Zep's "Immigrant Song" as his campaign's theme song.

Obama Campaign Commericial


GravatarAccording to the article, though, that was all in the past...

Which is why Lindsay Buckingham is denying Sheryl Crow is being interviewed to join the band.


GravatarPrior. I told people I'm working my way back down to 19 readers. But just when I think I'm out they PULL me back in again...

I told one reporter that I had my 15 minutes of fame and never expect to replicate it. One of the reasons I didn't talk about myself with the reporters is that I didn't want to make it about me, but about the issue(s) Of course this had the effect of them WANTING to make it about me. (You know, because of the Mystery)

When it turns out that I'm not a movie star or real famous journalist there isn't any story. But then as you know, one of my favorite movie is "Meet John Doe" and so I know what the powerful people will do when they don't like you. I don't want to end up like Gary Cooper in that movie.
Fortunately I have all my friends who know the real me.


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch? v=m...feature=related

Wherever he goes the people all complain.


GravatarDumbing Down Discourse Since April 4, 1968.
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash |
Is it your birthday? Were you ever gonna mention it, or what?


No actually, May 4 is my birthday.
Heh.

But I've been periodically taking refuge in irony since April 4, 1968.


GravatarThere was actually an article on him years ago in the New York Times Business section, about how he had screwed up his finances, declared bankruptcy multiple times, etc. According to the article, though, that was all in the past...
Gummo


Wow .Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours," is one of the biggest-selling albums in music history.


GravatarWhich is why Lindsay Buckingham is denying Sheryl Crow is being interviewed to join the band.
Snow (D-SC)


I think that would be pretty cool, actually. Have you ever heard Crow and Stevie Nicks sing together? Their voices fit together beautifully.


GravatarWhen Carter, a democrat, was in office, it was every night, Nightline and the hostage crisis.


GravatarNightline became a program because of the hostage crisis.


GravatarThere was actually an article on him years ago in the New York Times Business section, about how he had screwed up his finances, declared bankruptcy multiple times, etc. According to the article, though, that was all in the past...
Gummo

Wow .Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours," is one of the biggest-selling albums in music history.
Unrepentant Fenian


The difference between "rich" and "wealthy."


Gravatar bloggus

Those are pretty funny.


Gravatari'm proudly lowering the intellectual discourse everywhere i go today. come to think of it now actually, i do it everyday...
fokowi macropoliscichological

come now
we Dialogue quite well with each other


GravatarYou can't make up for your MLK fuckup at this late date, McStain.

You should have kept your mouth shut in order to "cement" your base.


GravatarRIL -

I answered you - check your email...

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GravatarThe difference between "rich" and "wealthy."
Rmj, Unfashionable Theologist


Well, wasn't Elton John a shopaholic who almost ruined himself financially a couple of times? And he's only had about 7,000 hit records.


GravatarTPM: Bill and Hill tax returns reveal that they earned over $109 million since 2000.

So here's what I don't get: why do we give a flying rat's turd about any of the candidates' tax returns. They're all rich. So what?


GravatarWar?

(what is it good for?)
Prior Aelred


GE and its shareholders.

(They bring good things to life!)


Gravatar"President Bush promised NATO allies at a summit that ended in Bucharest, Romania, on Friday that the United States would increase forces in Afghanistan next year"

Like any of the NATO allies are stupid enough to take his word for anything that the utter shit it is.


GravatarI'm tired of politicians claiming that the Iraqi government has failed to step up and take charge.

The simple fact is that there is only one entity that has failed in Iraq, and that is The US government that attacked a country that was not a threat to the US without any plan based in reality as to how to get out.

The troops haven't failed. The Iraqi's haven't failed. The US government has completely failed in Iraq, and continues to stack failure on failure.


GravatarWell, wasn't Elton John a shopaholic who almost ruined himself financially a couple of times? And he's only had about 7,000 hit records.
Gummo


Did he really almost go broke? Good grief, get a budget, dude.


GravatarI think that would be pretty cool, actually. Have you ever heard Crow and Stevie Nicks sing together? Their voices fit together beautifully.

I just threw up in my mouth. A LOT.


GravatarI guess no balls ABC changed its tune after airing the names of the dead and the faux wingnut rage. Way to honor the fallen, wingnuts. Let's just ignore them.


GravatarI think that would be pretty cool, actually. Have you ever heard Crow and Stevie Nicks sing together? Their voices fit together beautifully.

Might be good. Buckingham has said they were going to tour and record next year. Maybe Mick needs some cash.


GravatarI really miss Lowell George.

In 1966 I found my love
In 1967 I had all there was
And as my time went by I was satisfied
Until that situation took me by surprise

Now there's two trains runnin' on that line
One train's me and the other's a friend of mine
You it would be all right, be just fine
If the woman took one train and left the other behind


GravatarPete Townshend-SLIT SKIRTS
Is one of the most amazing songs I've every heard.


GravatarSo here's what I don't get: why do we give a flying rat's turd about any of the candidates' tax returns. They're all rich. So what?
mothra, Sister Machete of Sere


Because you're supposed to think like this?

Old money = respectable aristocrats (i.e., Bushes)

New money = shady doings (i.e., Clintons)


GravatarABC = Absent Balls Company


GravatarIt's because failing wars of attrition and carnage don't attract sponsorship from metamucil, boner pills, mutual funds, etc. So nightline shows other stuff.


GravatarWell, wasn't Elton John a shopaholic who almost ruined himself financially a couple of times? And he's only had about 7,000 hit records.
Gummo

Did he really almost go broke? Good grief, get a budget, dude.
MP


Eyeglasses get really expensive!


GravatarNightline became a program because of the hostage crisis.
Ô¿Ô


I saw Springsteen's interview with Koppel on Nightline during the 2004 campaign and Koppel asked Bruce in a very condescending way why he (just a musician)is talking about the war and Bush at his shows, like Bruce had no right to say such things. Bruce just kind of looked at him and said I'm an American and I say what I feel.


GravatarThe troops haven't failed. The Iraqi's haven't failed. The US government has completely failed in Iraq, and continues to stack failure on failure.

Yes. The politicians in Washington should be ashamed of themselves for attempting to shift the blame. What in the hell do they expect of the poor people after we laid complete waste to their country and infrastructure?


GravatarMight be good. Buckingham has said they were going to tour and record next year. Maybe Mick needs some cash.
Snow (D-SC)


Heh. Wouldn't surprise me.

It could just be for Buckingham's ego. His solo stuff is always completely ignored.


GravatarEyeglasses get really expensive!

Well, when your optomitrist tells you that in order to see better, the rims MUST be embedded with rubies, diamonds, and emeralds, it gets spendy and the insurance companies have this way of balking...


GravatarI heard that Clinton dropped out of the race. She's still in it? Seriously?

Wow. I wonder what she thinks is going to happen between now and the convention.


GravatarEchoing an earlier Atrios post, this is parody above and beyond the Onion.

Beck: BE THANKFUL FOR BIG OIL.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/03...xecs/ index.html

I really hope he comes to St. Paul for the RNC. I'll be happy to let him stew in a vat of oil (cooked into tar).


GravatarYes. The politicians in Washington should be ashamed of themselves for attempting to shift the blame. What in the hell do they expect of the poor people after we laid complete waste to their country and infrastructure?
mothra, Sister Machete of Sere


A little gratitude would be nice. We did bring these lovely gifts of freedom, after all.


GravatarMcStain, you should denounce MLK and Obama as "fancy nigras."

At least you'll nail down the wingnut vote.


GravatarYes. The politicians in Washington should be ashamed of themselves for attempting to shift the blame. What in the hell do they expect of the poor people after we laid complete waste to their country and infrastructure?
mothra, Sister Machete of Sere


There has never been a bunch of people in Washington for whom the word "shame" held less meaning than this crew.


GravatarPete Townshend-SLIT SKIRTS

I have a Townshend CD or video from Japan on which Slit Skirts is identified as "Slits Birds."


Gravatardick morris just now on fox news said that based on the tax returns released just now, the clintons could very well be indicted. this is going to be great for the dumbocraps, a democrat contender for president and an ex president under indictment. most of the analysts at fox smell a rat in these returns. fox will go thru these returns with a fine tooth comb and uncover the lies and deceptions by the clintons


GravatarLimbaugh:

""These women have paid their dues. They've been married two or three times; they've had two or three abortions; they've done everything that feminism asked them to do."

Limbaugh: Thrice married drug addict.


GravatarIndeed. Would there be "Metal" without Zep?


And my point before was there may not have been a Zep without The Who.


That's not how music history works.


GravatarIt could just be for Buckingham's ego. His solo stuff is always completely ignored.

I thought it was humorous to hear him refute Crow's claim of future collaboration. He'd be lucky if she wanted to work with him.


GravatarEchoing an earlier Atrios post, this is parody above and beyond the Onion.

Beck: BE THANKFUL FOR BIG OIL.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/03...xecs/ index.html

I really hope he comes to St. Paul for the RNC. I'll be happy to let him stew in a vat of oil (cooked into tar).
Roadmaster, Whitewalled


Beck's ratings must be lower than ever.


GravatarIt really is sickening those like Koppel. Who are they?


GravatarYes, the military has failed, and the Iraqi pseudo-government has failed, too. They never really had much of a chance, because the ultimate failure was the stupid idea that this was going to work in the first place.


GravatarThere has never been a bunch of people in Washington for whom the word "shame" held less meaning than this crew.

Which is why tumbrels are so very appropriate for the lot of them.


GravatarIt's creepy thinking that Ashcroft was the sane one.


Gravatarfox will go thru these returns with a fine tooth comb and uncover the lies and deceptions by the clintons

Just like Whitewater, right?


GravatarIt could just be for Buckingham's ego. His solo stuff is always completely ignored.
Gummo


"Holiday Road......"


GravatarI thought it was humorous to hear him refute Crow's claim of future collaboration. He'd be lucky if she wanted to work with him.
Snow (D-SC)


Oh, I missed that.

Stevie's already collaborated with Sheryl so I don't know what he's talking about. Or should I say, he doesn't know what he's talking about.


GravatarYes, the military has failed

How?


GravatarI thought it was humorous to hear him refute Crow's claim of future collaboration. He'd be lucky if she wanted to work with him.

He's trying to drive down her price.

Very shrewd...but stupid. If they can't get Christine McVie out of her 40 room mansion for a tour, they couldn't do better than Sheryl Crow for a replacement.


GravatarDick Morris can go suck a toe.


GravatarYes, the military has failed, and the Iraqi pseudo-government has failed, too. They never really had much of a chance, because the ultimate failure was the stupid idea that this was going to work in the first place.
B1 Bummer


Aren't you supposed to be in Qatar?


GravatarThe tax returns are needed because of stuff like this.

Mr. Nazarbayev walked away from the table with a propaganda coup, after Mr. Clinton expressed enthusiastic support for the Kazakh leader’s bid to head an international organization that monitors elections and supports democracy. Mr. Clinton’s public declaration undercut both American foreign policy and sharp criticism of Kazakhstan’s poor human rights record by, among others, Mr. Clinton’s wife, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York.

Within two days, corporate records show that Mr. Giustra also came up a winner when his company signed preliminary agreements giving it the right to buy into three uranium projects controlled by Kazakhstan’s state-owned uranium agency, Kazatomprom.

The monster deal stunned the mining industry, turning an unknown shell company into one of the world’s largest uranium producers in a transaction ultimately worth tens of millions of dollars to Mr. Giustra, analysts said.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/3...& pagewanted=all


Gravatardick morris just now on fox news said that based on the tax returns released just now, the clintons could very well be indicted.

It amazes me that Sonny can post here, seeing as his keyboard has to be encrusted with dried drool.


GravatarIt amazes me that Sonny can post here, seeing as his keyboard has to be encrusted with dried drool.
Apprentice to Darth Holden


Um....

that's not drool.


GravatarI agree with Holden, I never watch Nightline.

It hasn't been relevant since the early 80's.


GravatarOh, I missed that.

This is all recent. Buckingham announced a possible tour. Then Crow said she would definitely be working with Fleetwood Mac in the future.

Wednesday I heard Buckingham say Crow shouldn't be so certain of that.


GravatarI don't have to watch Fox News because our breathless trolls keep me fully informed.


GravatarYes, the military has failed

How?
Snow (D-SC)


Deployed to do something they couldn't do. Not a failure of will or one that is even necessarily blameworthy, but rather like saying a piece of lumber fails when it is overloaded and breaks from the strain.

There are culpable failures, and non-culpable ones; a difference in degree, even in kind; but they are still failures.


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch? v=O...feature=related

Spent the night in Utah, in a cave up in the hills.


GravatarUm....

that's not drool.
Gummo |


Um...

Ew!


Gravatarsheets


GravatarBill and Hillary Clinton earned a combined $109 million between 2000 and 2007, with the former president and first lady parlaying their White House years into hefty publishing paydays, and with his oratorical gifts bringing in more than $51 million from paid speaking engagements.

The figures came with the release this afternoon of the Clintons' joint tax returns, a move Sen. Clinton made after promising during a televised presidential debate to comply with requests from journalists and her Democratic rivals to share details of her family's financial dealings.

The returns reveal how the Clintons turned global fame into a successful commercial brand, particularly through the former president's speaking fees. The two also collected more than $30 million from book deals, the returns show.

Just like you and me, right?

(no fucking comment other than we get just about exactly what we fucking deserve. Thanks, Bill)


GravatarI don't think of Zep as being metal. To me, Black Sabbath was the real beginning of metal, with Deep Purple almost getting there, Zep almost getting there, etc. That's not a bad thing, of course. But after Sabbath, I think the most important formative metal band was Judas Priest. Then the NWBHM hit, leading to the American groups.


GravatarSHEETZ

res & Spocko wouldn't let me post here, so I answered you upstairs


GravatarSo when Ted Turner describes a scenario of terrible suffering and fear, and people start freaking out and picking apart the details, it sure sounds like a lot of frightened noise. And it sounds like selfish frightened noise.


Gravataropen thread sheets


GravatarIt hasn't been relevant since the early 80's.
Gomez


Well, it probably gave KO his idea for "X # of days since "Mission Accomplished," but other than that, yeah, it's been irrelevant since the hostages were released.

And I still can't forget Koppel telling Jon Stewart his (Koppel's) job was simply to report what politicians say, not to report that: "Oh, by the way, we all know that to be a bald-faced lie!"


Gravatarfox will go thru these returns with a fine tooth comb and uncover the lies and deceptions by the clintons
sonny ablaza | 04.04.08 - 5:15 pm | #


and you know for sure that they are there because the little voices in your head tell you everything you need to know

the republican party is a psychological disorder

.


GravatarExactly. Thanks RMJ.


Gravataryou can attack me but the clintons are going down on this one. these tax returns are very incriminating.


Gravataryou can attack me but the clintons are going down on this one. these tax returns are very incriminating.
sonny ablaza | 04.04.08 - 5:23 pm | #


what did you find when you read them?

.


Gravatar"What the hell was going on in that place?"

Whatever you imagine I suspect it was worse.


Gravataryou can attack me but the clintons are going down on this one. these tax returns are very incriminating.
sonny ablaza | 04.04.08 - 5:23 pm | #

what did you find when you read them?


What makes you think sonny can even read?


Gravatarchris matthews is livid over these tax returns. the clintons have really stepped in deep shit with these tax returns. i smell indictments, the clintons are the gift that keeps on giving.


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n...h? v=nHRRjt2lU_4

Now the die is shaken, now the die must fall.


GravatarThat show went to crap the moment Ted Koppel left. It's really sad and pathetic. That was the last legitimate news show on network TV.


GravatarYou mean there's a war still going on in Iraq? I stopped paying attention when Our President flew onto an aircraft carrier 4 years and 11 months ago to proclaim "Mission Accomplished."

Heck, if that war is still going, you'd think it would be a story, huh?


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n...h? v=nN0gHJ4JEQk

Outside in the cold distance a wildcat did growl.


GravatarThe Clintons should go to jail for having the nerve to make a lot of money.

It would be a useful precedent for a good many right-wingers who make a lot of money.


Gravatar"Risk board game IV life"-Michael O'Hanlon


GravatarBut boy if a Democrat like Jimmy Carter was president, Nightline would be playing it up like nothing else in the world mattered...


Gravatarno fracking way, Lee!


Gravatarthere is a documentary on this,

Faulty Towers
The Germans


Gravatarfarg abc and all the networks...they sold us out a long time ago...


Gravatar"Don't mention the war."

Haha! A Fawlty Towers reference!


GravatarThe same show that led with "Day Whatever: America Held Hostage" every single night for more than a year.


GravatarFortunately, PBS Frontline hasn't been ignoring the war, in fact it has been doing excellent exposes about the war, and the warmongers.

So who needs the MSM anyway. I don't.


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