But a spokesman for al-Maliki said his remarks "were misunderstood, mistranslated and not conveyed accurately."
Government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said the possibility of troop withdrawal was based on the continuance of security improvements, echoing statements that the White House made Friday after a meeting between al-Maliki and U.S. President Bush.
I enjoy Cops when they film it in the Tampa area. It's fun to see if you know the area they're arresting someone in.
Florida |
07.19.08 - 8:16 pm | #
"I hate her politics, but she does crack me up"
DON'T PEE ON MY LEG ANT TELL ME IT'S RAINING!!
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
07.19.08 - 8:16 pm | #
Terry C, I know this sounds truly horrible, and reveals what a rotten soul I am, but I did not have much sympathy for the four contractors who were killed early on in Iraq.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.19.08 - 8:16 pm | #
I don't call this (3) comments. Haloscan is a liar & a cheat!
Willendorf Venus |
07.19.08 - 8:17 pm | #
Sallyh: Might I suggest Judge Judy? I hate her politics, but she does crack me up
I can't help it. I'm a guy who should've been arrested several times, and I've managed to avoid it. So, for me, it's a somewhat sociological in an amateur sense.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:17 pm | #
Toons, we too have this little tiny space in the laundry room that made the chore difficult. Our hookups actually were a royal pain in the ass.
Sallyh - We haven't actually done the hook-ups yet. All my pain has really come from man-hanling the old one out of the closet.
Only one good thing has come from today -- I found myself in Home Depot standing about 10 feet from Shelley Berman, who's about two years older than my Dad. Is this a great town or what?
Toonscribe |
07.19.08 - 8:17 pm | #
Jeffraham, I could see how Cops could be entertaining...after a couple six packs. Which, it seems, many of the arrestees in the show have selected as their activity prior to their crime
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.19.08 - 8:18 pm | #
Maliki might have trouble unringing that bell
Lumpenprolitariot |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:19 pm | #
Toons, it's unique. I love this schizophrenic, difficult, but fantastic city.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.19.08 - 8:19 pm | #
Which, it seems, many of the arrestees in the show have selected as their activity prior to their crime
"hey, hold my beer and watch this!"
mingo |
07.19.08 - 8:19 pm | #
I know this sounds truly horrible, and reveals what a rotten soul I am, but I did not have much sympathy for the four contractors who were killed early on in Iraq.
Sallyh
Funny thing is, they'd be just as did whether you had sympathy for them or not.
It doesn't matter what we DFHs think, one way or another.
Moe Szyslak |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:19 pm | #
"hey, hold my beer and watch this!"
mingo
Last words of a redneck.
Florida |
07.19.08 - 8:20 pm | #
Moe, no. But it did indicate to me how much my own humanity had been compromised in these times.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.19.08 - 8:20 pm | #
did = dead
simels does some shit.
Moe Szyslak |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:20 pm | #
Well, break's over. Back to the water heater. Wish me luck. I hope to be back later -- with hot water.
Toonscribe |
07.19.08 - 8:21 pm | #
"I did not have much sympathy for the four contractors who were killed early on in Iraq."
what bothered me was the idea conveyed by the "libbrul meeja" that they were "just there to help" and were killed by the ungrateful iraqis.
that I had trouble with.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
07.19.08 - 8:21 pm | #
Uncle B, that was problematic for me as well.
What bothered me most was that our soldiers were getting killed, for about a tenth of the pay that the contractors were receiving, and no one was remarking on them.
I'm for real, Sally. I know a guy who is just as southern as southern can be and that's one of his favorite jokes. Most common last words of a Florida cracker? "Hey, y'all, watch this!"
Florida |
07.19.08 - 8:23 pm | #
Damn, these new light bulbs attract more spiders than the old one.
mer |
07.19.08 - 8:23 pm | #
I know this sounds truly horrible, and reveals what a rotten soul I am, but I did not have much sympathy for the four contractors who were killed early on in Iraq.
Sallyh
Meh.
You can call 'em "contractors" but they're still "mercenaries" who voluntarily risk their lives for the big bucks.
Deacon Blues |
07.19.08 - 8:24 pm | #
what a friendly little chap!
mingo |
07.19.08 - 8:24 pm | #
You know what I resent? I resent a cabal of idiots who put those contractors into that situation to begin with, resulting in our having to consider whether we have or have not compassion for them in their deaths.
EkCenTriK |
07.19.08 - 8:25 pm | #
But it did indicate to me how much my own humanity had been compromised in these times.
No, not at all.
I have no doubt that you've paused many times to think about the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who have been killed thanks to the glorious US adventure. Which is appropriate. Sympathy of contractors? Meh.
Moe Szyslak |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:25 pm | #
Sallyh: Jeffraham, I could see how Cops could be entertaining...after a couple six packs. Which, it seems, many of the arrestees in the show have selected as their activity prior to their crime
Exactly. All the times I should have been arrested, it would have been for DUI, when I was young and stupid.
Fortunately, I never caused any accidents, nor had any on my own. Still, it's shameful.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:27 pm | #
Exactly. All the times I should have been arrested, it would have been for DUI, when I was young and stupid.
Fortunately, I never caused any accidents, nor had any on my own. Still, it's shameful.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Yet another reason why good public transit makes sense. I would love to be able to go to baseball or football games, drink beers, and know that I could take a train home.
I better not say any more, though, or Duncan will start another supertrain thread.
Florida |
07.19.08 - 8:30 pm | #
Vicky, does this Laurance Welk clip remind you of your grand parents?
Florida, what would be great is a supertrain to Vegas (assuming no one will bomb it into oblivion). You could get on, start gambling, be all liquored up by the time you got there.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.19.08 - 8:31 pm | #
I'm just VERY thankful that I never injured or killed anyone, being young, and knowing better, but being stupid, anyway.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:32 pm | #
From way back in the whiskey barrel "controversy" thread, the key is to know an employee who can ensure that a gallon or so of the good stuff remains in the barrel. Got to go to the source, not Home Depot.
jc in ky |
07.19.08 - 8:32 pm | #
"supertrain to Vegas (assuming no one will bomb it into oblivion)."
Important Safety Tip: you don't have to be young to be drunk and stupid.
Dr. Wu |
07.19.08 - 8:32 pm | #
Florida, what would be great is a supertrain to Vegas (assuming no one will bomb it into oblivion). You could get on, start gambling, be all liquored up by the time you got there.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Aw hell, now you're just asking for trouble!
Florida |
07.19.08 - 8:33 pm | #
Florida, what would be great is a supertrain to Vegas (assuming no one will bomb it into oblivion). You could get on, start gambling, be all liquored up by the time you got there.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Ohhhhh no! TOO much temptation. It would not be good for me to live with easy access to gambling.
Deacon Blues |
07.19.08 - 8:33 pm | #
"you don't have to be young to be drunk and stupid."
true
however they do seem to go together
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
07.19.08 - 8:33 pm | #
Well, I suppose the appearence of Al Gore at the NRN takes care of the biofuels issue, but if there's no panel on the godhood of FSM vs Ceiling Cat, or the anticipated evolution of Lolcatese, I say the confab was a bust.
bo |
07.19.08 - 8:34 pm | #
did = dead
simels does some shit.
Okay, Murray, he "did" what?
NTodd, Super Skank Lover |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:34 pm | #
"you don't have to be young to be drunk and stupid."
Indeed, E often tells me I'm old and stupid when I'm drinking.
NTodd, Super Skank Lover |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:34 pm | #
i've been arrested many times in my life. a few times for dui.
but i'm not a war criminal.
charley/ arrested development |
07.19.08 - 8:35 pm | #
Some mornings I wake up, put the water on the stove for coffee making, and think of all the people in Iraq who use to be able to do the same thing. Now, if they are alive, they have no electricity, no clean water and no coffee, no food either. Damn, I hate what Bush and company did to that country.
mer |
07.19.08 - 8:35 pm | #
Youth is wasted on the young.
bo, old stupid & wasted |
07.19.08 - 8:35 pm | #
if there's no panel on the godhood of FSM vs Ceiling Cat, or the anticipated evolution of Lolcatese, I say the confab was a bust.
Was there a panel on snark and how that will save the world?
NTodd, Super Skank Lover |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:36 pm | #
Aw hell, now you're just asking for trouble!
You must have not ever driven the freeway between Barstow and Vegas.
The last time I'd done this, I found myself racing with Porche Cayane SUVs at about 100 MPH. I could not have driven any slower, I'd have been ran over like a jack rabbit.
A train from LA to Vegas would be safer.
Doug |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:36 pm | #
Some mornings I wake up, put the water on the stove for coffee making, and think of all the people in Iraq who use to be able to do the same thing.
Never get out of the boat.
NTodd, Super Skank Lover |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:39 pm | #
Well, I suppose the appearence of Al Gore at the NRN takes care of the biofuels issue, but if there's no panel on the godhood of FSM vs Ceiling Cat, or the anticipated evolution of Lolcatese, I say the confab was a bust.
bo
The things I learn at this place - with Google help...
Deacon Blues |
07.19.08 - 8:39 pm | #
Take me to the station
and put me on a train
I've got no expectations
To pass thru here
Again
billy b |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:39 pm | #
Doug, nowadays, it takes forever to get in and out of Baker.
There's still hog slop there, only now they call it Del Taco.
You must have not ever driven the freeway between Barstow and Vegas.
I remember a picture in the paper back when the 55mph speed limit was enacted. A pair of CHP cars leading the pack on that highway.
ABC news reporter is HAWT - Rachel Martin
Deacon Blues |
07.19.08 - 8:46 pm | #
I'll bet you anything that he never made it over to the Harry Ransome Center.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
07.19.08 - 8:46 pm | #
Crime rates expected to soar as economic difficulties deepen
This headline was from England but in Tucson it's already started. There have been a rash of midle of the night shootings the last month.
I've seen the police helicopters (called ghetto birds here) when out having a smoke break at night. I'm not too worried about them breaking into my place of work. We'd tie them to a CNC machine and do some interesting body mods to them.
Doug |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:47 pm | #
Video of the Iran talks, the US rep dour, stonefaced, the Iranian smiling and laughing his ass off
Iranian holdin' a full boat.
jc in ky |
07.19.08 - 8:47 pm | #
I could add trying to piss the olympic rings in the middle of an intersection but that also involved being drunk, young and stupid.
I'm sensing a theme...
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
lying dead drunk in the middle of a north carolina hi-way. saved by the trucker who called in and said "i thought he was a sack of potatoes."
the officers looked at one another, clem said to lenny "i don't rightly know what to charge him with?" they whipped out a looseleaf and stated thumbing thru it. "oh, here we go, impeding the normal flow of traffic."
but i was young and stupid.
charley/ arrested development |
07.19.08 - 8:48 pm | #
"Why can't I sell any of these fucking Bibles?!?!?"
Well if you had told people there was some porn to look at, you could have sold more.
Doug |
07.19.08 - 8:48 pm | #
You're a jerk?
The Wizard |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:48 pm | #
Don't cross the streams.
I'm a little fuzzy on the good/bad thing...
NTodd, Super Skank Lover |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:48 pm | #
well, YOU would be dour and stone-faced, too, if YOU were speaking to the embodiment of evil and turism!
mingo, semi-noob |
07.19.08 - 8:49 pm | #
Doug, you got to know crime rates will soar in this economy. So sad.
mer |
07.19.08 - 8:49 pm | #
but i was young and stupid.
charley/ arrested development
Doug, and never, never, never get off in Baker. - Sallyh
Actually, I've done that, on the way back from Vegas. Baker was the perfect name, because on the way to Vegas, the a/c broke & it was 110 out.
Wish I had the narrative skills for the whole screwball yarn, but there was this point where two carloads of in-laws and distant relatives are standing outside the gates of a Filipino style fish pond compound, in what shade their was to be found, 5 miles of dirt road off the freeway. No one is at the fish pond except this psychotic guard dog who's vowing death to us all, with periodic breaks to cool down in the water and the distant-relative's son a restaurant manager, who sounds like Bronson Pinochet's character in Steve Martin's "Father of the Bride"(?) is on the cell phone, screaming at the Assistant Executive chef about firing the guy who's supposed to do salads.
bo |
07.19.08 - 8:49 pm | #
Time to go out.
Later folks.
cosmic tumbler |
07.19.08 - 8:50 pm | #
Ntodd, it's too bad you crossed Montana so quickly, I could have told you some great spots to visit without having any tourists around smelling up the area.
Doug |
07.19.08 - 8:50 pm | #
Bo, clearly, the heat gets to people
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.19.08 - 8:50 pm | #
I remember reading the bible when Jesus parted the Red Sea, and thinking, "Man, I wish I had something more then a '64 Dodge Dart".
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
07.19.08 - 8:50 pm | #
There's crime, and there's crime.
Probably, people killing each other in the middle of the night doesn't have much to do with stock market numbers.
Moe Szyslak |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:50 pm | #
This headline was from England but in Tucson it's already started.
There have been a rash of midle of the night shootings the last month.
I'll bet you good money that there's no such problem in Salmo BC.
That usually requires an American Flag gravatar.
cosmic tumbler
ct -
You forget Tony Orlando's yellow ribbon magnet.
billy b |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:51 pm | #
(smacks NTodd)
Why are chicks always doing that to me?
NTodd, Super Skank Lover | Homepage | 07.19.08 - 8:45 pm
If you haven't figured that out by now ...
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
07.19.08 - 8:52 pm | #
It's about that here, Jeffraham, but I'm betting you have more humidity.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.19.08 - 8:52 pm | #
focus
better air?
ErinPDX
Hi Erin !!!! didn't see you there in between innings - but yes air is much better sea breezes and blue skyses the last 2 days. thanks for asking uh ...(tries to remember if 'sweetie' is a punchable offense)
focus, breezin' |
07.19.08 - 8:53 pm | #
Sallyh: It's about that here, Jeffraham, but I'm betting you have more humidity.
"Probably, people killing each other in the middle of the night doesn't have much to do with stock market numbers."
maybe not, but job numbers and wondering how you're going to pay the bills certainly does.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
07.19.08 - 8:53 pm | #
It's about that here, Jeffraham, but I'm betting you have more humidity.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
It's been cloudy and cool all day here at the beach, Sallyh. It was drizzling early this morning when we took the little lefty to a canoe paddling meet in Long Beach.
Deacon Blues |
07.19.08 - 8:53 pm | #
I hope I can afford the sugar water for my hummingbirds outside my work window. What a treat.
mer |
07.19.08 - 8:54 pm | #
I dunno. In terms of personal safety, I've never felt more or less safe, depending on the economy. "Crime" goes up, I 'spose, but it's not that random shit that everyone worries about.
Moe Szyslak |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:55 pm | #
Moe, yeah, but holding up convenience stores and shoplifting baby formula do.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 07.19.08 - 8:51 pm | #
VANCOUVER, British Columbia - One of five feet that have mysteriously washed up on the shores of British Columbia over the past year has been linked to a depressed man who disappeared a year ago, police said Saturday..
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The foot is the first to be identified by investigators, who have been working on the bizarre case since August when two feet were found days apart about 40 miles southwest of Vancouver on islands in the Strait of Georgia
Deacon Blues |
07.19.08 - 8:55 pm | #
There have been solar winds here all day, and the vortices sucked the entire US government off the earth. And I have this very cool vodka drink right now.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
07.19.08 - 8:56 pm | #
"In terms of personal safety, I've never felt more or less safe, depending on the economy."
economy goes down and "aggressive panhandling" goes way up.
that can lead one to feel a bit unsafe
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
07.19.08 - 8:57 pm | #
Yes. And lucky.
cosmic tumbler
quite, the trucker said he actually straddled the sack of potatoes. i shudder to think of the alternative.
and 100 yards up the road was a stolen car. i certainly don't remember, but i don't think clem and lenny were too bright.
at least i'm not a war criminal.
charley/ arrested development |
07.19.08 - 8:57 pm | #
I love you Atrios.
noshrub |
07.19.08 - 8:57 pm | #
I hope I can afford the sugar water for my hummingbirds outside my work window. What a treat.
I've planted flowering sage. Those survived through what winter we have here are are again about 3 feet tall and wide enough to make a solid row beneath my porch.
Humingbirds seem to like them.
Violence in the city is one reason I live out in the desert. About all the excitment I've seen here was watching a dove try to mug a nesting sparrow.
(I chased off the dove)
Doug |
07.19.08 - 8:57 pm | #
That usually requires an American Flag gravatar.
Jesus, there was a lady in the White Market in Lyndonville, wearing an XXL t-shirt with an American flag and FREEDOM, quoting Bible scripture with a friend near the dairy section. And there I was with my Code Pink for Peace t-shirt, and E couldn't help but snort as we grabbed a dozen eggs.
NTodd, Super Skank Lover |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:57 pm | #
Deacon Blues-- I was posting that last night. My favourite part:
Meanwhile, in another bizarre development in the case, a coroner on the picturesque San Juan Islands in the Strait of Georgia disclosed that a footless body was discovered 16 months ago on the eastern shores of Orcas Island, a northern island in the American chain.
But despite the torrent of publicity over the five severed feet in recent weeks, coroner Randall Gaylord said he did not advise B.C. investigators about the discovery until Thursday.
"I certainly could have made an inquiry sooner. No question about that," said Mr. Gaylord, "but I never knew enough about the missing feet, what size or type of shoe they were in, or whether they were men or women.
"And who do you contact, and what are you going to find out?"
A possible connection between the detached feet found in British Columbia and the Orcas Island footless body came to him just recently when he was reading a newspaper article about the case. "There was a report of shoes with no bodies. And I thought, 'Gee, I have a body with no shoes. I wonder if they could be related,' " Mr. Gaylord recounted.
Moe Szyslak |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:58 pm | #
I'm sorry, guys, but I'm still chortling over the fact that two of my bestest peoples in the world have come back alive to me - one was at terible risk from vile disease, and the other had simple disappeared. And both - not ded!
So kuhl..... I am so tickled I just about can't stand it....
69.1F, 86% humidity at the Fortress.
NTodd, Super Skank Lover |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 8:59 pm | #
I'll bet you good money that there's no such problem in Salmo BC. - GWPDA
After 10 days with an overloaded backpack pinched a nerve and paralyzed my arm, I went looking for the NP's in Iskut, BC. Pulled up to the trailer/office and there were some old boards laid out in a diamond shape on the crushed rock near the door. Asked the Nurse Practioner about the boards while she checked me out. The night before, two brothers had gotten into a drunken brawl and one knifed the other, then he'd dumped him in the lot. The boards were to mark off the area where the body was found.
bo |
07.19.08 - 8:59 pm | #
Oh yes - and another good pal is sending me two pashminas and some other stuff, from far and away!
"There was a report of shoes with no bodies. And I thought, 'Gee, I have a body with no shoes. I wonder if they could be related,' " Mr. Gaylord recounted.
It is so definitive, they should really put that on the B.C. license plates.
Finny |
07.19.08 - 9:00 pm | #
"There was a report of shoes with no bodies. And I thought, 'Gee, I have a body with no shoes. I wonder if they could be related,' " Mr. Gaylord recounted.
Moe Szyslak
By the way, money won't stop a bullet either. - sea
Horseshit I seen Gene Autry, or somebody, saved by a silver dollar in his shirtpocket in a movie.
bo |
07.19.08 - 9:03 pm | #
Da Vinci's Inquest ended a few years too soon.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
07.19.08 - 9:04 pm | #
"By the way, money won't stop a bullet either."
what if you're a lucky man?
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
07.19.08 - 9:04 pm | #
You're staying at the Westin?
Yup. Ace was full, but Westin's right downtown. Also the one that used to be called 5th Avenue Suites...uh, I'd have to look that one up.
NTodd, Super Skank Lover |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 9:05 pm | #
so? Like you'll even invite ME to visit.
You can totally visit. Seriously.
NTodd, Super Skank Lover |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 9:06 pm | #
Slainte, GWPDA. I'm glad to hear things are running in your favour.
Finny |
07.19.08 - 9:06 pm | #
JP, ur sweet.
But my hunger for an anchovy pizza can be assuaged by my existing shriomp curry. And that's on the stove even now.
Impressive! And a good outside shot, nothing but net
Deacon Blues |
07.19.08 - 9:07 pm | #
"You can totally visit. Seriously."
Just hasslin ya.
I will take you up on that but I don't know when.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
07.19.08 - 9:07 pm | #
OTTAWA -- It wasn't too long ago that Bill Kuebler was as Red State as they come: a family man, a born-again Christian, a successful business lawyer, a political conservative with an unblemished record of voting Republican.
Today, the 37-year-old Navy lawyer is still as committed a Christian as ever, but he spends his time fiercely defending an alleged radical Muslim murderer - Canadian Omar Khadr.
Instead of working at a lucrative civilian practice, Lieutenant-Commander Kuebler is publicly blasting the U.S. government for what he describes as a sham system in Guantanamo, and Ottawa for failing to fight to bring Mr. Khadr home.
In the process, he has sometimes incurred Washington's wrath. He has also caused Prime Minister Stephen Harper and the Conservative government much discomfort...
But behind Lt.-Cmdr. Kuebler's impassioned defence of his client are contrasts so stark they border on contradiction. Here is a conservative Christian defending an alleged radical Muslim; a U.S. military man representing someone accused of killing a U.S. military man; a lawyer who attacks the Guantanamo Bay military commissions system as an outright sham even as his client is one of the very few detainees not to boycott that system.
That mindset has taken the lawyer from a lucrative civil litigation career in the U.S. to the most controversial prison in the world, taking on a case he freely admits cannot be won in a Guantanamo courtroom, regardless of the evidence.
But as an October trial date looms for Mr. Khadr, the Navy lawyer still believes that with enough public pressure, Ottawa will relent and ask for the detained Canadian's return. To achieve that goal, Lt.-Cmdr. Kuebler has his sights set on changing the minds of those Canadians who are most like him: committed conservatives.
Moe Szyslak |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 9:07 pm | #
what if you're a lucky man?
He had white Horses, and ladies by the score all dressed in satin and waiting by the door?
NTodd, Super Skank Lover |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 9:09 pm | #
GWPDA, I have some excellent homemade pizza from last night in the fridge, and some anchovies in the cabinet. Want a Fedex express?
mer |
07.19.08 - 9:10 pm | #
Impressive! And a good outside shot, nothing but net
Deacon Blues | 07.19.08 - 9:07 pm | #
I know! He's got the touch for sure and he's a lefty! The troopsloved him too. I bet he gets all sorts of good receptions when he's over there.
pigboy |
07.19.08 - 9:10 pm | #
Just hasslin ya.
I know, bud.
I will take you up on that but I don't know when.
Good! Please do. We're pretty flex even during the school year.
NTodd, Super Skank Lover |
Homepage |
07.19.08 - 9:10 pm | #
oooo, what a lucky man he was.
mingo, semi-noob |
07.19.08 - 9:11 pm | #
"He had white Horses, and ladies by the score all dressed in satin and waiting by the door?"
For some reason I think of Pat tillman when I hear that song now.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
07.19.08 - 9:11 pm | #
"We're pretty flex even during the school year."
then I'll bring the kids!!!!
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
07.19.08 - 9:11 pm | #
mingo, , and welcome.
mer |
07.19.08 - 9:12 pm | #
I remember reading the bible when Jesus parted the Red Sea, and thinking, "Man, I wish I had something more then a '64 Dodge Dart".
leibniz leibkins ♘☮
or you could just waste your life listening to the drivel on MSNBC or sean fuckwit hannity as i'm doing now.
i guess we're all just trying to make it thru the wilderness.
never get off the boat.
charley/ arrested development |
07.19.08 - 9:12 pm | #
You're staying at the Westin?
Yup. Ace was full, but Westin's right downtown. Also the one that used to be called 5th Avenue Suites...uh, I'd have to look that one up.
NTodd, Super Skank Lover | Homepage | 07.19.08 - 9:05 pm
Westin seemed a bit pricey to me, 5th avenue is now Hotel Monaco Portland, their cheapest rate is the same as one of the Marriot's. I'm also looking at B&B's.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
07.19.08 - 9:12 pm | #
Buckeye, it is now Hotel Monaco and I recommend it. Last night I plugged 4 nights into expedia.com and the rate was $119, amazingly cheap. On Monday I'll finish calling hotels to see if we can get a deal..Monaco is on the list. I've stayed there and it is centrally located.
ErinPDX |
07.19.08 - 9:13 pm | #
mer-
thank you!
nice to be here.
mingo, semi-noob |
07.19.08 - 9:13 pm | #
then I'll bring the kids!!!!
In all seriousness, you totally can. Early fall is still good for boating (maybe not swimming), and of course hiking. Later it's good snowshoeing and skiing, of course. Always fun just to light shit on fire and drink, too...uh, the kids can have Roy Rogers and Shirley Temples...
NTodd, Super Skank Lover |
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07.19.08 - 9:13 pm | #
Outta here for a while. Have fun all
Deacon Blues |
07.19.08 - 9:14 pm | #
Finny - I am so glad about my bud in Quebec and his medical coverage which effectively saved his life.....
You may want to revisit that thought after a major trool poo-fling and exorism, but welcome, anyway.
bo |
07.19.08 - 9:16 pm | #
Department of Civil Disobedience: Google Should Deliver Its YouTube Data to Viacom in Paper Form
Erick Schonfeld
The recent court order directing Google to hand over data to Viacom about every YouTube video ever watched strikes many people as an absurd overreach of the law into the privacy of anyone who has ever used YouTube (i.e., almost everyone on the Internet). Google should definitely keep fighting the ruling if it can. But if it can’t, perhaps it should comply with it in a creative way. The data in question are data logs containing the records of every video watched on YouTube, by whom, and at what times. The court is also ordering that Google hand over all videos that have ever been taken down for any reason. The logs alone take up 12 terabytes. Google should print them out and deliver them on paper. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/0...-in-paper-form/
Doug |
07.19.08 - 9:17 pm | #
also,
never order shrimp curry from the chinese restaurant.
they don't really get it.
charley/ arrested development |
07.19.08 - 9:17 pm | #
seen a few trool wars here. took me awhile to figure out what a troll was, anyway - now I hope to avoid them. they are like a cockroach skittering across the thread.
mingo, semi-noob |
07.19.08 - 9:19 pm | #
The data in question are data logs containing the records of every video watched on YouTube, by whom, and at what times.
uh oh.
they're gonna know that i watched videos of myself.
one of my favorite videos EVER
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
07.19.08 - 9:20 pm | #
perhaps the Wavy One allows us to project our hopes and fears upon him/her, and mirrors our inner being and some other shit like that.
mingo, semi-noob |
07.19.08 - 9:21 pm | #
never order shrimp curry from the chinese restaurant.
is that like:
never order Mexican food outside the Southwest..?
is that still true?
mingo, semi-noob |
07.19.08 - 9:22 pm | #
I was thinking of the youtube/viacom data request. They could set up a very high speed printer in the courtroom and flood the entire room with paper.
Doug |
07.19.08 - 9:23 pm | #
perhaps the Wavy One allows us to project our hopes and fears upon him/her, and mirrors our inner being and some other shit like that.
it's the liberals
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07.19.08 - 9:23 pm | #
Finny - I am so glad about my bud in Quebec and his medical coverage which effectively saved his life.....
There's just nothing else to say.
I am very happy for you and for him.
Nice to have some good news for a change.
fourlegsgood, netrooted |
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07.19.08 - 9:23 pm | #
mingo - as in FLAmingo. no reason other than they ar big, pink, cool-looking and I like them.
mingo, semi-noob |
07.19.08 - 9:23 pm | #
Buckeye, it is now Hotel Monaco and I recommend it. Last night I plugged 4 nights into expedia.com and the rate was $119, amazingly cheap. On Monday I'll finish calling hotels to see if we can get a deal..Monaco is on the list. I've stayed there and it is centrally located.
ErinPDX | 07.19.08 - 9:13 pm |
Oh, good. Or I could sleep in Washington Park. I'm sure the park police would never notice.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
07.19.08 - 9:24 pm | #
is that like:
never order Mexican food outside the Southwest..?
is that still true?/i>
ask the liberals
The Wizard |
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07.19.08 - 9:24 pm | #
A court will always rule that its previous order to turn over info was meant to be in a format that can be dealt with.
Moe Szyslak |
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07.19.08 - 9:25 pm | #
one of my favorite videos EVER
People forget how good Sham was, he was deep in the shadow of maybe the best ever.
jc in ky |
07.19.08 - 9:25 pm | #
"never order Mexican food outside the Southwest..?"
Taco Bell's Five Ingredients Combined In Totally New Way
October 14, 1998 | Issue 34•11
LOUISVILLE, KY–With great fanfare Monday, Taco Bell unveiled the Grandito, an exciting new permutation of refried beans, ground beef, cheddar cheese, lettuce, and a corn tortilla. "You've never tasted Taco Bell's five ingredients combined quite like this," Taco Bell CEO Walter Berenyi said. "The revolutionary new Grandito, with its ground beef on top of the cheese but under the beans, is configured unlike anything you've ever eaten here at Taco Bell." The fast-food chain made waves earlier this year with its introduction of the Zestito, in which the beans are on top of the lettuce, and the Mexiwrap, in which the tortilla is slightly more oblong.
I share my fave music with you, tonight, on Drunkerday night.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.19.08 - 9:25 pm | #
the onion is the true news ...
mingo, semi-noob |
07.19.08 - 9:26 pm | #
We have a very good Mexican eatery here in Knoxville. Folks have been here for about 20 years. If you speak the language, they know it. Love the place.
mer |
07.19.08 - 9:26 pm | #
Well, here is something I did not know:
Secretariat was ...given the rare honor of being buried whole; usually only the head, heart and hooves of a winning race horse are buried, the rest cremated.
GWPDA, the rediscovery of your friends is a great thing to be able to celebrate. They have both been blessed with good fortune.
bo |
07.19.08 - 9:26 pm | #
never order Mexican food outside the Southwest..?
is that still true?
mingo, semi-noob |
that's different. new mexican cuisine is quite distinct from mexican.
and very good.
actually i've never understood it. how can a burrito taste different than an enchilada? it's beans, meat, tomatoes and a tortilla, and yet they are different. trust me on the chinese curry.
charley/ arrested development |
07.19.08 - 9:27 pm | #
charley: actually i've never understood it. how can a burrito taste different than an enchilada? it's beans, meat, tomatoes and a tortilla, and yet they are different. trust me on the chinese curry.
How can sweetened milk and caramel taste different?
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.19.08 - 9:28 pm | #
ErinPDX --Do you use GTalk?
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 07.19.08 - 9:20 pm
What did you think of Sarah Siskind?
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
i haven't listened to her. i will after the girls fall asleep...
ina, river swimmer |
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07.19.08 - 9:28 pm | #
"Secretariat was ...given the rare honor of being buried whole; usually only the head, heart and hooves of a winning race horse are buried, the rest cremated."
I remember watching Secretariat win the belmont - it's one of my favorite memories.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
07.19.08 - 9:28 pm | #
actually i've never understood it. how can a burrito taste different than an enchilada? it's beans, meat, tomatoes and a tortilla, and yet they are different.
the noino is the true swen ...
mingo, imes-boon
the wizard |
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07.19.08 - 9:31 pm | #
Back in Virginia, they found on an old map a grave of Virginia Dare, which happens to be the name of the child born at the "lost" Roanoke colony. People were all worked up about the map-- did it mean that the colony wasn't so lost afterall?
People investigated. Turns out Virginia Dare was also the name of a 17th century race horse of some renown. Worthy of burying, and worthy of putting the grave site on a map.
Moe Szyslak |
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07.19.08 - 9:31 pm | #
The, boogyman ,bogeyman bogyman, boogieman, boogey monster, or boogeyman, is a folkloric or legendary ghostlike monster often believed in by children. The bogeyman has no specific appearance, and conceptions of the monster can vary drastically even from household to household within the same community; in many cases he simply has no set appearance in the mind of a child, but is just an amorphous embodiment of terror. Bogeyman can be used metaphorically to denote a person or thing of which someone has an irrational fear. Parents often say that if their child is naughty, the bogeyman will get them, in an effort to make them behave. The bogeyman legend may originate from Scotland, where such creatures are sometimes called bogles, boggarts, or bogies.
clem |
07.19.08 - 9:31 pm | #
enchilada sauce shouldn't have any tomato in it... imho.
mingo, semi-noob |
07.19.08 - 9:31 pm | #
ina: i haven't listened to her. i will after the girls fall asleep...
I think you will likey.
She's married to a dood I worked with almost a decade ago. She had a stellar EP, Six Songs of Mine, and even got Bill Frisell to produce and play on her major label debut. But, it wasn't quite the same.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.19.08 - 9:31 pm | #
Nope. Thought someone who used our computer lab downloaded the program and left his sign on page up. Never mind that using instant messenging on our computers is not allowed. (we've had to have 'talks' with this patron before, he's on the verge of being banned).
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
07.19.08 - 9:32 pm | #
the girls are in bed singing, vamping, and mae-westing this:
"it's kinda lumpy. but it rings."
ina, river swimmer |
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07.19.08 - 9:32 pm | #
ask the liberals
One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small
And the ones that mother gives you
Don't do anything at all
Go ask Alice
When she’s ten feet tall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uni...i/
United_States
In some Midwestern states of the United States, the bogeyman scratches at the window. In other places he hides under the bed or in the closet and tickles children when they go to sleep at night. It is said that a wart can be transmitted to someone by the bogeyman.[1] Bogeymen may be said to target a specific mischief – for instance, a bogeyman that punishes children who suck their thumbs – or general misbehavior.
clem |
07.19.08 - 9:33 pm | #
Best cheese dip I ever have is from the local Mexican place. They wouldn't give me the recipe, but they did tell me they used a white cheese. I've gotten close, but not as good as the one they make.
mer |
07.19.08 - 9:33 pm | #
Hecate, I've seen a lot of studies that indicate that starvation is all too common in women and girls in highly patriarchal cultures. Still, the photo says it with more force than a thousand studies could.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.19.08 - 9:33 pm | #
asuas ed adalihcne ees teh MINGO
the wizard |
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07.19.08 - 9:34 pm | #
The word bogey is most likely derived from the Middle English bogge/bugge (also the origin of the word bug). The words are linked to many similar words in other European languages, which may be cognates; bögge, böggel-mann (English "Bogeyman") (German), Buse (Nynorsk), bòcan, púca, pooka or pookha (Irish Gaelic), pwca, bwga or bwgan (Welsh), puki (Old Norse), pixie or piskie (Cornish), puck (English), bogu (Slavonic)
clem |
07.19.08 - 9:34 pm | #
mer, did they call that rajas? has green chiles in it, too. yum.
mingo, semi-noob |
07.19.08 - 9:34 pm | #
actually i've never understood it. how can a burrito taste different than an enchilada? it's beans, meat, tomatoes and a tortilla, and yet they are different.
the sauce
of course.
fourlegsgood, netrooted |
and the tortillas.
where i come from, enchiladas are corn and burritos are flour.
ina, river swimmer |
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07.19.08 - 9:34 pm | #
ina: where i come from, enchiladas are corn and burritos are flour.
I've seen a lot of studies that indicate that starvation is all too common in women and girls in highly patriarchal cultures.
That article will break your heart.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.19.08 - 9:38 pm | #
The Spanish Bogeyman is known as El Cuco, or, more often in Spain, El Coco (also named in some parts of Spain as El Ogro), a shapeless figure, sometimes a hairy monster, that eats children that misbehave when they are told to go to bed. Parents will sing lullabies or tell rhymes to the children warning them that if they don't sleep, El Coco will come and get them. The rhyme originated in the 17th century has evolved over the years, but still retaining its original meaning. The term is also used in Spanish-speaking Latin American countries. The aforementioned Brazilian "Bag Man" also exists here in the form of the Hombre del Saco or Hombre de la bolsa, who is usually depicted as a mean and impossibly ugly and skinny old man who eats the misbehaving children he collects.
clem |
07.19.08 - 9:39 pm | #
I actually saw a "Love it or leave it" bumper sticker today.
Lumpenprolitariot |
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07.19.08 - 9:39 pm | #
I love it all. sadly. it's calorie-enhanced.
mingo, semi-noob |
07.19.08 - 9:39 pm | #
"...has green chiles in it, too. yum."
--mingo, se
They call it cheese dip. But it does have green chiles in it. They make their tortilla chips and this lovely dip sticks to them perfectly.
mer |
07.19.08 - 9:39 pm | #
actually i've never understood it. how can a burrito taste different
than an enchilada? it's beans, meat, tomatoes and a tortilla, and yet
they are different.
Well, let me tell you about the difference between burros and burritos....
"where i come from, enchiladas are corn and burritos are flour."
where i come from burritos have it written on the package
check before microwaving to see you got the one you want.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
07.19.08 - 9:40 pm | #
I actually saw a "Love it or leave it" bumper sticker today.
I often feel the same way. If you want a monarchy, get the fuck out. Let freedom reign somewhere else.
Gorilla my dreams |
07.19.08 - 9:41 pm | #
They call it cheese dip. But it does have green chiles in it. They make their tortilla chips and this lovely dip sticks to them perfectly.
sounds like rajas - I believe sour cream is involved...
mingo, semi-noob |
07.19.08 - 9:41 pm | #
where i come from burritos have it written on the package
check before microwaving to see you got the one you want.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teach
Heh. You and I have the same cookbook. Lucky there's no enchiladas in the freezer (yeah, yeah... but I can't get them right myself) or the healthy grilled chicken and spinach would probably be sacrificed.
BlueinColorado |
07.19.08 - 9:41 pm | #
I actually saw a "Love it or leave it" bumper sticker today.
I saw the weirdest one the other day: Welfare should be as hard to get as a drug conviction.
There are just so many kinds of wrong in there, it's kind of impossible to unwrap. And, really, who's still worried about someone getting welfare?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.19.08 - 9:42 pm | #
Hecate - u haz a bunch of sage? Sage here gives up around July, leaving me without any until the next year.
GWPDA yclept Damaged Historian |
07.19.08 - 9:43 pm | #
Hell, I don't care what it's called, I love it all.
I think sometimes I could be Mexican, Chinese, Indian, you name it. I love all those foods.
mer |
07.19.08 - 9:43 pm | #
Hecate,
And at the bottom of the WaPo page you link to:
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bo |
07.19.08 - 9:43 pm | #
Welfare should be as hard to get as a drug conviction.
there's some ugly in there.
mingo, semi-noob |
07.19.08 - 9:43 pm | #
mer -
Ethiopian? add that to the list.
mingo, semi-noob |
07.19.08 - 9:45 pm | #
"I believe sour cream is involved..."
--mingo, s
Closes I've come involves whipping cream (not whipped).
mer |
07.19.08 - 9:46 pm | #
Hecate, more than break my heart: it infuriated me.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.19.08 - 9:46 pm | #
there's some ugly in there.
That would be you.
the wizard |
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07.19.08 - 9:47 pm | #
Best cuisine is simple Italian or Californian--simple but high quality vegetables and fruits with a bit of animal protein. Perfect cuisine.
Triman |
07.19.08 - 9:47 pm | #
"Ethiopian? add that to the list."
there's a nice Ethiopian restaurant in west philadelphia. excellent stuff.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
07.19.08 - 9:47 pm | #
the wizard, why do you say that about mingo?
mer |
07.19.08 - 9:48 pm | #
Closes I've come involves whipping cream (not whipped).
mer |
split the difference with creme fraiche?
BlueinColorado |
07.19.08 - 9:49 pm | #
I think I likey mingo.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.19.08 - 9:49 pm | #
Welfare should be as hard to get as a drug conviction
Excellent comparison that went over their heads. Welfare checks should be no less ubiquitous than drug convictions. Which is to say, easy.
oso |
07.19.08 - 9:50 pm | #
mingo is elias
the wizard |
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07.19.08 - 9:50 pm | #
I will send you some! German sage and pineapple sage!
Ooooooooooooooooooooh! Ur Triceratops went out on Thursday, by-the-bye. And soon, we shall haz pashminas.
Canned fruits and vegetables are superior in many ways to fresh fruits and vegetables.
jim |
07.19.08 - 9:52 pm | #
Mingo, crema is easy to get in L.A. Trader Joe's carries a wonderful creme fraiche.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.19.08 - 9:52 pm | #
Hecate, I'm looking at the article - it's hard to read. I seem to recall that women do most of the work, too.
mingo, semi-noob |
07.19.08 - 9:53 pm | #
NN!
Numbnuts Nation!
Galactic Shaman of Numbnuts and Intercontinental Buffoon, Albert Gore, Jr., Visits Numbnuts Nation!
I'd be willing to bet that it costs more to jail someone for a year than it would be to provide them with welfare. We've got jails full of people convicted of using or selling drugs, almost no one on welfare anymore, and the angry white man driving that car is still pissed off.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.19.08 - 9:57 pm | #
I thought mingo hit the damned target in the crotch and was never heard from again except singing, My Cup Runneth Over and with his brothers?
DWD - Officially Retired |
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07.19.08 - 9:57 pm | #
I'd be willing to bet that it costs more to jail someone for a year than it would be to provide them with welfare.
Currently: 70,000 dollars a year + for prison for one year.
< 20,000 for Michigan State, University of Michigan or any of the other state colleges including tuition, room and board, and books.
the angry white man driving that car is still pissed off.
Hecate,
It's like the Mencken line about Puritanism being the nagging suspiscion that somebody, somewhere, is having fun. A good third of contemporary conservatism is the paranoid fantasy that they wouldn't have to pay taxes but for people who 'don't want to work'. Who are also to blame for sexual disatisfaction, your neighbor with the better car, the couple who seem happily married, etc etc etc
Cindy McCain |
07.19.08 - 10:00 pm | #
So the Washington Post identifies Michael Leahy as the writer picked to write biographical articles on Obama. What's his talent? Well he wrote a book about Michael Jordan's comeback. A review of his book Leahy quotes Kierkegaard and fancies himself as a writer: he also employs the cheapest tricks of the gossip columnist’s art. A single point demonstrates both his incontinent malice and his wincing ineptitude: in the book’s pages Jordan scarcely ever said anything. Instead he chortled, seethed, cackled, fumed, barked, blurted or mumbled. He had only one facial expression, a smirk.
no bogeyman here in SoFla (excepting Crist and La Exila/Followers of Fulgencio) - - we've got the Chupacabra, baby! We also have "Cheaters" on Comcast at 11 or 12; I love the confrontation fights, and the unctuous words of care from the weasly, (poorly) soul-patched host, who I hope someday is arrested (on Cops?).
Also, beg to differ on Ethiopian cuisine; I tried it several times in D.C. at group dinners--you spend a half-hour debating what's on the menu, and then it all comes out looking the same--"Dirty Diaper" food I call it.
mofo |
07.19.08 - 10:00 pm | #
"I thought mingo hit the damned target in the crotch"
But only because of that liberal coddling of prisoners. Make 'em work for their keep! You know, handling financial info, stuff like that.
Moe Szyslak |
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07.19.08 - 10:01 pm | #
BTW, Just as a point of information. I will NEVER ever watch ABC news again. They are nothing more than Republican fluffers and liars.
What'd I do now?
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.19.08 - 10:03 pm | #
"I thought mingo hit the damned target in the crotch"
UNK BLODGE!!!!!
That's about my favorite 'TV moment'.
I crack up every time I see that.
billy b |
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07.19.08 - 10:04 pm | #
So the Washington Post identifies Michael Leahy as the writer picked to write biographical articles on Obama. - rootless-e
Sounds like Deborah Saunders of the SF Chron is into cross-dressing.
bo |
07.19.08 - 10:04 pm | #
Jeff Press:What'd I do now?
Nuttin.
I was jes' sayin' hi.
billy b |
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07.19.08 - 10:05 pm | #
GWPDA,
Should be here. We have too much good stuff right now. I even tried to pawn some off on my parents in law.
Started when I had some blueberries so I made a pie yesterday. Then we went to market and our favorite people from the Cherry Point Market were there with their pies and strudel. We already had a pie so I wanted some cherry strudel (OMG GOOD TOO) and Mrs DWD wanted some Blueberry strudel. (And we want them to keep coming to market you know. . . .)
So, come on by. . . .
DWD - Officially Retired |
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07.19.08 - 10:06 pm | #
They are building a city of jail cells here. It's unbelievable.
mer |
07.19.08 - 10:07 pm | #
Or my moustache.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.19.08 - 10:09 pm | #
And slap, Were voters forced to actually focus on Mr. McCain’s response to our spiraling economic crisis at home, the prospect of his ascension to the Oval Office could set off a panic that would make the IndyMac Bank bust in Pasadena look as merry as the Rose Bowl.
McShame says, Mr. Rich, May I have another?
The term flip-flopping doesn’t do justice to Mr. McCain’s self-contradictory economic pronouncements because that implies there’s some rational, if hypocritical, logic at work. What he serves up instead is plain old incoherence, as if he were compulsively consulting one of those old Magic 8 Balls.
Hecate, it costs an average of 40K (2005 dollars) to house an inmate for a year. By contrast, a woman receiving public assistance gets less than 10K per year.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.19.08 - 10:10 pm | #
BTW, Just as a point of information. I will NEVER ever watch ABC news again. They are nothing more than Republican fluffers and liars. - DWD
Sheesh, took you long enough to figure that out.
The television is pretty much dead to me.
bo |
07.19.08 - 10:10 pm | #
Hecate, I failed to clarify: those are CA figures.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.19.08 - 10:11 pm | #
We are approaching the privatized, self-sustaining prison complex as depicted in the movie The Fortress.
puppethead |
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07.19.08 - 10:13 pm | #
Frank Rich is brutal tonight. That is okay. Me enjoy brutal.
Ms. Fiorina, the ubiquitous new public face of McCain economic policy, adds nothing to the mix beyond her incessant display of corporate jargon, from “trend lines” to “start-ups.” Before she was fired at Hewlett-Packard, its stock had declined 50 percent during her five-plus years in charge. She missed earning projections — by 23 percent in one quarter — much as she now misrepresents both the Obama and McCain records. This month she said Mr. McCain wanted to require insurance plans to cover birth control medications along with Viagra, when in fact he had voted against it.
DWD - Officially Retired |
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07.19.08 - 10:13 pm | #
Hecate, it costs an average of 40K (2005 dollars) to house an inmate for a year. By contrast, a woman receiving public assistance gets less than 10K per year.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Those who favor these "get tough" standards would use that kind of information to justify capital punishment for shop lifting.
bill |
07.19.08 - 10:13 pm | #
3 squares a day in prison, all the reading material you want, pens, paper, and in some facilities, internet access!
kirby |
07.19.08 - 10:15 pm | #
how much difference does it make?
charley/ arrested development |
07.19.08 - 10:17 pm | #
kirby,
so what felonies are you contemplating?
bo |
07.19.08 - 10:17 pm | #
Really, a friend of my son called me (she was scared to call her mom) a year and a half ago to come pick her up from the county facility for a driving offense. There was an incredible amount of construction going on. I ask her bondsman what was going on. He said, more jail cells. It looked like a little city. Made me ill.
mer |
07.19.08 - 10:18 pm | #
Dr. Ali al-Dabbagh, a spokesman for the Iraqi government, issued a statement saying Mr. Maliki’s statement had been “as not conveyed accurately regarding the vision of Senator Barack Obama, U.S. presidential candidate, on the timeframe for U.S. forces withdrawal from Iraq,” but it did not address a specific error. It did soften his support for Mr. Obama’s plan and implied a more tentative approach to withdrawing troops. More of the statement, which came from the U.S. military’s Central Command press office:
Al-Dabbagh explained that Mr. al-Maliki confirmed the existence of an Iraqi vision stems from the reality with regard to Iraq security needs, as the positive developments of the security situation and the improvement witnessed in Iraqi cities makes the subject of U.S. forces’ withdrawal within prospects, horizons and timetables agreed upon and in the light of the continuing positive developments on the ground, and security that came within the Strategic Plan for Cooperation which was laid and developed by Mr. Maliki and President George Bush.
Notice that the correction to the IRAQI Premier's statement was issued from US CENTRAL COMMAND.
I guess that is all you need to know, eh?
DWD - Officially Retired |
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07.19.08 - 10:27 pm | #
Moe and Jeffraham Prestonian. Thanks for commenting on my post over at FDL. I was beginning to feel like the guy with bad breath at the dance. "Why isn't anyone talking to me?"
When I think about it, it's kind of a boring topic, but I figured with the crane crash, salsa scare, and Freddie Mac Fannie Mae a post in support of regulation was a good idea.
spocko |
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07.19.08 - 10:28 pm | #
I so want to get it on with one of those hardtime studs.
kirby |
07.19.08 - 10:28 pm | #
spocko: Moe and Jeffraham Prestonian. Thanks for commenting on my post over at FDL. I was beginning to feel like the guy with bad breath at the dance. "Why isn't anyone talking to me?"
No worries. I do hope sitten/Katie/Sadlyyes comments on your comments about the Chinese pet food issue. That's in her wheelhouse, for sure.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.19.08 - 10:29 pm | #
"I was beginning to feel like the guy with bad breath at the dance. "Why isn't anyone talking to me?""
balls. you know we love you
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
07.19.08 - 10:30 pm | #
Popping in to see what negative stories are being posted. Have to make a comment about an earlier post re: gays in the military.
Personally, I would prefer having no “GAY soldiers”.
The same way I don’t want “GAY policemen”.
Or “GAY bartenders”. Or “GAY astronomers”.
What’s wrong with just having soldiers, or policemen, or bartenders, or astronomers?
I’ll tell ya. The fascination with emphasizing that “I’m a GAY magician” or whatever the crap is, seems to me to be a deep down admission that something is seriously wrong.
I go into a store and order a coffee. The person makes the coffee, hands it to me, I pay them and say thanks, and they say “Have a nice day.”
I go into a store and order a coffee. The person makes the coffee, hands it to me, then broadcasts loudly “I’m a GAY coffee maker, and can do it as good as anyone else!!”
I pay for the coffee, leave it on the counter, and walk away.
I really don’t give a chit about his (or her) fantasies, I just want somebody to make me a cup of coffee.
Personally, I would prefer having no “GAY soldiers”.
You're a chickenshit as it is, so the chances of you running into a "gay soldiers" is about as good as your chance of growing a pair.
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.19.08 - 10:33 pm | #
Once called out, he has fractured into tiny pieces.
jc in ky |
07.19.08 - 10:34 pm | #
Need a few laughs, Fred Hiatt get his ass handed to him REPEATEDLY and very nicely by the readers of his newspaper. (I wonder if he reads the comments?)
Notice that the correction to the IRAQI Premier's statement was issued from US CENTRAL COMMAND.
I guess that is all you need to know, eh?
When the ragheads get out of line and think they actually run their OWN government, US Central Command is there when you need them!
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.19.08 - 10:38 pm | #
ok, every july/august i go away for 3 weeks to teach. this year is the first year that the facility i teach at has internet service.
i'm wondering: is this a good thing?
jdw |
07.19.08 - 10:39 pm | #
that is a fine ass-handing!
mingo, semi-noob |
07.19.08 - 10:40 pm | #
Once again, Bushworld takes us through the looking glass.
Bob Barr, who's running for president as the Libertarian Party nominee, has arrived at Netroots Nation. He was attending the RightOnline conference, which is here in Austin as well. He's been walking around, meeting people and speaking openly with anyone who'd like to speak to him. It's a strange thing because here's the guy who led the impeachment of Bill Clinton but he's very strong on civil liberties, especially FISA and he may ultimately help elect Barack Obama by pulling key votes away from John McCain in certain key states. Sometime guerilla journalist dday confronted Barr and asked him if he thinks the impeachment of Bill Clinton served as a deterrent to runaway executive power. Barr laughed and said "no, of course not." Barr is now down in the main hall attending a panel on "The races we're not watching."
mydd.com
I have to remind myself that the guy is an unrepentant, un-American evil scumbag.
BlueinColorado |
07.19.08 - 10:41 pm | #
"BTW, Just as a point of information. I will NEVER ever watch ABC news again. They are nothing more than Republican fluffers and liars. - DWD"
abc has been particularly egregious.
jdw |
07.19.08 - 10:42 pm | #
I have to remind myself that the guy is an unrepentant, un-American evil scumbag.
how can U forget it?
I ran into Barr upstairs, bloviating to some interviewer about how we didn't quite understand climate change yet.
Hey 4lg! How's the weather there?
Hot enough for ya?
Oh, dood, U can bite me.
U noes I hate teh hot weather.
fourlegsgood, netrooted |
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07.19.08 - 10:48 pm | #
Gilly,
Can't help but wonder if the fur's gonna fly over posting the "Agent's" pic of the neighbor in her skivvies. Also looks like Victoria's Secret hasn't made much of a market penetration in Denmark.
bo |
07.19.08 - 10:48 pm | #
I have new LarryElvis!
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.19.08 - 10:48 pm | #
I have new LarryElvis!
what wuz wrong with the old one?
fourlegsgood, netrooted |
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07.19.08 - 10:50 pm | #
Gilly,
Can't help but wonder if the fur's gonna fly over posting the "Agent's" pic of the neighbor in her skivvies. Also looks like Victoria's Secret hasn't made much of a market penetration in Denmark.
bo | 07.19.08 - 10:48 pm | #
SYDNEY (Reuters) - At most outdoor festivals the longest queues are generally for the portable toilets and bar but at World Youth Day in Sydney, the Catholic Church's version of Woodstock, one of the biggest queues is for confessing sins.
With some 300,000 young Catholic pilgrims attending WYD from July 15-20 the Church is staging the world's largest confessional, with more than 1,000 priests at anyone time hearing sins and dispensing penance at 250 locations.
Hopefully it's the priests doing the confessing...
Gilly Gonzylon |
07.19.08 - 10:54 pm | #
Wuz too yung. Kuldn't bye beer!
ah, good point
fourlegsgood, netrooted |
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07.19.08 - 10:56 pm | #
Damned slow tonight, Guess everyone is busy writing their columns for their blogs . . . or their new books.
NEW DELHI — A deepening friendship with the Bush administration has pushed the elected government of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to the brink of its own demise. Now, with a confidence vote in Parliament scheduled to begin this week, the government’s scramble to stay in power and its rivals’ efforts to oust it have set off an intense and often brazen round of political bargaining.
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.19.08 - 11:03 pm | #
whew that was a close one, but the dodgers streak of suck remains intact
focus, breezin' |
07.19.08 - 11:05 pm | #
In these dark times, a small spot of chicken soup for the soul.
I always thought someone should write "Chicken Soup for the Vegetarian Soul", but never have seen it.
mingo, semi-noob |
07.19.08 - 11:08 pm | #
I spent the entire day with my family and saw my son off to the Marshall Islands today. My oldest daughter, 24, spent 12 hours with my wife and I. She and I were estranged for the better part of 4 years and I am overjoyed to be able to again enjoy her brilliance, wit and compassion. I have not been the best father but the power of forgiveness has left me blessed.
Shared Humanity |
07.19.08 - 11:08 pm | #
Hey everybody.
I have Marcellina in my apartment and you don't.
Nyah.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants
Hostage situation!
Richard |
07.19.08 - 11:10 pm | #
The Netroots convention is on c-span from earlier with Gore and Pelosi.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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07.19.08 - 11:10 pm | #
Al Gore and Nancy Pelosi on Cspan.
kane |
07.19.08 - 11:10 pm | #
Pelosi = full of shit
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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07.19.08 - 11:12 pm | #
Who is the person to the left of Pelosi, or right from the camera view.
EkCenTriK |
07.19.08 - 11:14 pm | #
Hey everybody.
I have Marcellina in my apartment and you don't. -HoneyBearKellyGoGiants
quick, ask her who won the 1941 World Series ...
focus, breezin' |
07.19.08 - 11:14 pm | #
Some fat guy with a beard wearing an american flag polo shirt asking Al Gore why we can't 'just implement buckminster fuller's wind turbine' plan.
kane |
07.19.08 - 11:15 pm | #
Shared Humanity,
I hope you had a lovely day and your son has an interesting time. I have often thought of our connections to each other are ripe for a deeper consideration.
Communication has allowed us to grow closer to people like us - this small group of people here is a perfect example, though we often fight and argue, we are so much alike it if amazing. In our personal worlds, finding people like us is extremely rare if possible at all - but is that really necessary?
When we have limitless communication and identification with people everywhere does it really make is happier or better? I really do not know the answer and I am not sure there even is an answer.
People fell in love when there were only 100 people or less in the community. Their love was strong and their bonds tight in spite of the lack of selection. Why? And yet we have limitless possibilities and our rates of divorce are as high or higher?
And do we really need to know of the 32 story crane collapsing in Houston yesterday? It is a tragedy for the people there and the riggers on the machine but it should not really trouble me in Muskegon. Nor should the fifty thousand bikers visiting Muskegon this day and boogeying down to Grand Funk at the Lake tonight to anyone not here.
But that isolation your son is going to enjoy or hate is amazing. I would like to try it. Truly.
DWD - Officially Retired |
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07.19.08 - 11:15 pm | #
From earlier complaints, I guessed that Atrois was in charge of the music @ NRN.
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.19.08 - 11:15 pm | #
Who is the person to the left of Pelosi, or right from the camera view.
Installation is complete. We seem to have a functioning new hot water heater. Sometimes life is good.
Toonscribe: hotly watered |
07.19.08 - 11:21 pm | #
Read Frank Rich. If this country elects McCain, God help me for saying this, it deserves whatever it gets.
He's dumber than Bush.
There. I said it.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.19.08 - 11:21 pm | #
"Installation is complete. We seem to have a functioning new hot water heater."
First thought on reading that was have you done your windows updates yet?
EkCenTriK |
07.19.08 - 11:22 pm | #
He's dumber than Bush.
There. I said it.
David Derbes
A different kind of dumb, a different kind of arrogant... but I think far more dangerous.
BlueinColorado |
07.19.08 - 11:23 pm | #
Went to market today and the Amish were there with their cheese again. (Spent $12.00 this time.) Bought a pound of aged four years super strong white cheddar that Nikki- the Giant Poodle and I love so much and a big ole bag of cheese curds for Youngest DWD.
This aged four years super strong white cheddar is beyond good. It is grade.
DWD - Officially Retired |
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07.19.08 - 11:23 pm | #
Officially Retired....
I think the moniker is like a poorly fitting suit. You contribution in the conversations here are not that of a retired person but one who is fully engaged.
And thank you for your kind words.
Shared Humanity |
07.19.08 - 11:24 pm | #
Pelosi might have some alzheimers.
kane |
07.19.08 - 11:24 pm | #
A different kind of dumb, a different kind of arrogant... but I think far more dangerous.
BlueinColorado
I don't know about far more dangerous. I don't think McCain is quite as enamored of absolute power as Cheney is. On the other hand, he truly seems to be dumber. I wasn't sure that was possible, but he may well be.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.19.08 - 11:25 pm | #
I have Marcellina in my basement
Honeybear Lechter?
jc in ky |
07.19.08 - 11:25 pm | #
Gore says Nancy Pelosi is the greatest Congressional leader the Dems have ever had.
kane |
07.19.08 - 11:25 pm | #
I get to be on the road all day tomorrow, again. Old widowed mother(78 wants to go visit her older brother(92). I live 175 miles away, my sister & both of her(grown married) daughters live about 200' away, but I have to go pick mom up in Ar. drive over to OK. then reverse the trip. Aren't family feuds wonderful?
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.19.08 - 11:25 pm | #
Gore says Nancy Pelosi is the greatest Congressional leader the Dems have ever had.
kane
I love Al Gore. But he is completely wrong on this.
Maybe Al doesn't remember LBJ? In fact his own father was pretty damn good.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed. |
07.19.08 - 11:26 pm | #
This aged four years super strong white cheddar is beyond good. It is grade.
DWD - Officially Retired
Atriots say jack fuck off
buttler's an ass |
07.19.08 - 11:30 pm | #
We seem to have a functioning new hot water heater. Sometimes life is good.
Hot water, the ability to flick a switch and get light and have our waste disappear with a simple flush are the crowning achievements of western civilization.
Shared Humanity |
07.19.08 - 11:30 pm | #
On the other hand, he truly seems to be dumber.
I don't think we talk enough about this. Will he surround himself with the same types as Bush? If he is not confident in his mind to do the job, who will he turn to?
jc in ky |
07.19.08 - 11:31 pm | #
Will he surround himself with the same types as Bush?
This is the 64 milion dollar question. Let's hope we don't have to find out.
Shared Humanity |
07.19.08 - 11:34 pm | #
On the other hand, he truly seems to be dumber.
I don't think we talk enough about this. Will he surround himself with the same types as Bush? If he is not confident in his mind to do the job, who will he turn to?
jc in ky
Hot water, the ability to flick a switch and get light and have our waste disappear with a simple flush are the crowning achievements of western civilization.
Everything else is just icing on the cake.
Thirty years ago when I was a graduate teaching assistant, I used to tell my freshmen Western Civ students that my crumby apartment in the local student ghetto probably afforded me more personal creature comforts than those enjoyed by any European monarch in the Middle Ages. I always remember the scene in Lion in Winter when Henry II rolls out of bed and breaks the ice in the wash basin on the table beside his bed.
Toonscribe: hotly watered |
07.19.08 - 11:36 pm | #
Some people say that Gore at Netroots replays on c-span at 2 am ET.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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07.19.08 - 11:39 pm | #
Toonscribe...
Where did you teach? I could have been that student.
Shared Humanity |
07.19.08 - 11:40 pm | #
Some people say that Gore at Netroots replays on c-span at 2 am ET.
is there a youtube yet?
mingo, semi-noob |
07.19.08 - 11:40 pm | #
So, Sinfonian, is there anyway we can verify that bloggers say fuck less often? Is there a seasonality or triggered by extraneous events like Democrats rolling over again for Mr. 23%...
George Johnston |
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07.19.08 - 11:41 pm | #
Where did you teach?
University of Tennessee in Knoxville -- from about 1976-1980.
Toonscribe: hotly watered |
07.19.08 - 11:42 pm | #
I bust a bully in the gonads, and love doin' it.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.19.08 - 11:42 pm | #
I'm glad he chickened out, Jeffraham. You gotta be careful, I hear people down there carry guns and stuff.
Ali, spiritual advisor |
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07.19.08 - 11:44 pm | #
Right time, wrong state.
Shared Humanity |
07.19.08 - 11:48 pm | #
Ali: I'm glad he chickened out, Jeffraham. You gotta be careful, I hear people down there carry guns and stuff.
I reached this same conclusion about McShame some time ago now. He seems a man absolutely bereft of belief. As nearly as I can tell he has no conscience or moral beliefs whatsoever.
On a personal level it is obvious that his family means nothing to him. Returning from Vietnam he saw his disfigured wife and immediately threw her (and his children) to the side in favor of the rodeo queen with the big inheritance. That is not an indicator of anything other than a weakness. A weakness is not something, it is a lack of something.
He tried to assign himself the mantle of Barry Goldwater and Goldwater himself rejected him. He continued using his legacy even though he had rejected him. Again, this is a negative and not an indicator of anything other than a lack of something.
And in incident after incident you do not see him standing for anything. You see him wavering and backing down. Giving up positions for political and personal expediency is not a strength, it is a weakness.
And yet, he is constantly presented as a man of virtue and great personal strength. If he is the personification of virtue and strength then the ideals that I envision must be something completely different for my vision is one of self-less belief and personal sacrifice: two things that from all I have read, are anathemas to McShame.
I guess maybe when we look at his advertisements it might be useful to remember that in propaganda is usually best to use the principle of inoculation. Instead of arguing over nuance the communicator simply takes a lie and presents it as truth.
Instead of arguing about whether John McShame is a hero or has great personal strength as an attribute, simply present him every time as someone who does. Pretty soon, if the myth is never confronted, the identity will stick. If, however, someone has a pin to pop the balloon. . . .
DWD - Officially Retired |
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07.19.08 - 11:49 pm | #
Why do you think McCain's wife had a stroke?
bill |
07.19.08 - 11:57 pm | #
It's not as if Bush doesn't give SNL amazing material to work with.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.19.08 - 11:57 pm | #
This shit needs to get get capped ASAP.
You gots to die before you can live again.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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07.19.08 - 11:58 pm | #
"More than 100,000 Decemberists fans trample kossacks as things got out of control at NRN."
ErinPDX
LOLZ. There can't possibly be 100,000 of em, can there?
Ali, spiritual advisor |
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07.19.08 - 11:58 pm | #
"Did you know that Obama is a negro?"
"Actually, I call him a Halfrican, but YOU can't say that."
"Why not?"
"You have a column in the New York Times. You have to be more subtle."
"But he's a *&^%$#@! At least that's what my sainted father and blue collar brothers call them."
"So use a code word"
"You mean...
"That's right! You can say he's cocky, glib or presumptuous. Everyone over 30 will know you mean he's being uppity."
"But what about young people who might not know the code?"
"Well, maybe you can just call him an 'exotic outsider'".
"Thanks, Rush. You are the best!"
"Don't mention it, Maureen."
THE credit crisis has exposed and worsened a dangerous and deepening divide in this country between a vast number of average borrowers and a fairly elite slice of corporations, banks and executives enriched by the mortgage mania.
Borrowers who are in trouble on their mortgages have seen their government move slowly — or not all — to help them. But banks and the executives who ran them are quickly deemed worthy of taxpayer bailouts.
On the ground, this translates into millions of troubled borrowers, left to work through their problems with understaffed, sometimes adversarial loan servicing companies. If they get nowhere, they lose their homes.
Taxpayers, meanwhile, are asked to stand by with money to inject into Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored mortgage finance giants, should they need propping up if loan losses balloon.
The message in this disconnect couldn’t be clearer. Borrowers should shoulder the consequences of signing loan documents they didn’t understand, but with punishing terms that quickly made the loans unaffordable. But for executives and directors of the big companies who financed these loans, who grew wealthy while the getting was good, the taxpayer is coming to the rescue.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.19.08 - 11:59 pm | #
D00ds!
I just met 10 New York Atriots and they even talked to me. I feel so accepted.
Marcellina |
07.20.08 - 12:00 am | #
That's awesome, Hecate. I just can't believe the NYT printed it.
Ali, spiritual advisor |
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07.20.08 - 12:01 am | #
Hecate: But for executives and directors of the big companies who financed these loans, who grew wealthy while the getting was good, the taxpayer is coming to the rescue.
I just met 10 New York Atriots and they even talked to me.
Did they say "fuck" a lot? I hear Atriots are uncivil
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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07.20.08 - 12:02 am | #
The message in this disconnect couldn’t be clearer. Borrowers should shoulder the consequences of signing loan documents they didn’t understand, but with punishing terms that quickly made the loans unaffordable. But for executives and directors of the big companies who financed these loans, who grew wealthy while the getting was good, the taxpayer is coming to the rescue.
the standard "free market" technique of privatizing the profit and socializing the risk chugging away nicely here.
mingo, semi-noob |
07.20.08 - 12:02 am | #
"But for executives and directors of the big companies who financed these loans, who grew wealthy while the getting was good, the taxpayer is coming to the rescue.
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Tar, feathers, you tube.
EkCenTriK |
07.20.08 - 12:02 am | #
I just met 10 New York Atriots and they even talked to me. I feel so accepted.
Marcellina |
could you understand what they were saying?
Ali, spiritual advisor |
Homepage |
07.20.08 - 12:03 am | #
Tar, feathers, you tube
Why I love this place
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
Homepage |
07.20.08 - 12:03 am | #
Kill the fat cats.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
Homepage |
07.20.08 - 12:03 am | #
This shit needs to get get capped ASAP.
Like the band that marched down the alley in Animal House. Can't figure out that they are at a dead end.
jc in ky |
07.20.08 - 12:03 am | #
That's awesome, Hecate. I just can't believe the NYT printed it.
Ali, spiritual advisor
I read that earlier, Hecate. It is a good article and high time that they did print it. But I doubt it will make a difference.
DWD - Officially Retired |
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07.20.08 - 12:05 am | #
When I was a child my parents taught me stealing was wrong.
Mr French |
Apparently it's ok if you're.. you know the rest.
Ali, spiritual advisor |
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07.20.08 - 12:05 am | #
Did they say "fuck" a lot? I hear Atriots are uncivil
Actually they didn't. They were all so dazzlingly brilliant, they didn't need to.
Marcellina |
07.20.08 - 12:05 am | #
I just met 10 New York Atriots and they even talked to me. I feel so accepted.
Marcellina
Did any of them drive Studebakers?
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.20.08 - 12:05 am | #
I do not think the executive class really understands what they have fermenting out there. This isn't business as usual. This coming election is a departure from one era to another. Either they win or we win. If they win, they likely lose in the long run and so do we all.
EkCenTriK |
07.20.08 - 12:06 am | #
McSame is just another jet jockey. - 1Watt
Planes destroyed: 4
Rich bimbos landed: 1
bo |
07.20.08 - 12:06 am | #
Who are these 10 brilliant new yorker atriots? Sounds wonderful.
Ali, spiritual advisor |
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07.20.08 - 12:06 am | #
He lost 4 aircraft? Really?
EkCenTriK |
07.20.08 - 12:07 am | #
Only 4?
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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07.20.08 - 12:08 am | #
I read that earlier, Hecate. It is a good article and high time that they did print it. But I doubt it will make a difference.
DWD - Officially Retired
NYTimes: Boldly stating the obvious.
Rmj, Sweet Crude Theologist |
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07.20.08 - 12:08 am | #
I just met 10 New York Atriots and they even talked to me. I feel so accepted.
Marcellina
Like that was ever a question.
geor3ge |
07.20.08 - 12:09 am | #
Like the band that marched down the alley in Animal House. Can't figure out that they are at a dead end.
jc in ky
I interpreted that as blind followers.
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.20.08 - 12:10 am | #
I quit watching SNL years ago, I don't remember when.
I do remember going to Second City with my girlfriend in 1973 as a junior in high school and laughing so hard that I have been a fan of that venue ever since. I could not believe how funny these no names were.
The cast included Bill Murray and Dan Akroyd.
Shared Humanity |
07.20.08 - 12:10 am | #
from the NYT:
In earlier years, actually being repaid by borrowers was crucial to lenders. Now, because so much consumer debt is packaged into securities and sold to investors, repayment of the loans takes on less importance to those lenders than the fees and charges generated when loans are made.
In other words: a scam. A Ponzi scheme. A pyramid scheme. A financial house of cards. Gee, who do we bailout first?
Rmj, Sweet Crude Theologist |
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07.20.08 - 12:10 am | #
"See what else there is besides the NV shoot down"
I just read 5. Two I would question considering it was early in his career.
God must love fools one way or another.
EkCenTriK |
07.20.08 - 12:10 am | #
A listing of the 5.
EkCenTriK |
07.20.08 - 12:11 am | #
QuentinCompson, N
link not found.
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.20.08 - 12:12 am | #
"See what else there is besides the NV shoot down"
I just read 5. Two I would question considering it was early in his career.
Two he crashed, one shot down, one blowed up with a loose missile, and one he clipped a power line because he was fucking around and not paying attention.
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.20.08 - 12:12 am | #
you know, they might have left off the Distinguished Flying Cross...
mingo, semi-noob |
07.20.08 - 12:13 am | #
5, but one of them wasn't his fault. His nickname was "Ace", and that's a fact.
From a post at Free Republic:
I wasn't aware that Senator McCain was anything but a war hero, until Mechadave started attacking McCain's flying record. Now it turns out, that McCain was at the controls of five United States Navy planes that either crashed, or were somehow wrecked. Therefore, now that he wishes to be President, the gloves have to come off. He can't be a Sacred Cow, anymore, based just on the fact that he was captured, tortured, and imprisoned by the North Vietnamese. He can't use "war hero" to stifle discussion about his flying abilities, or about any other of his abilities. Karl Rove and the "righties," dishonored John Kerry's military service--including Kerry's Silver Star decoration--when Rove created his "brilliant" Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Now, I think we have a duty to let the public know, that some of Senator McCain's old flying buddies used to joke about his bad flying record. They even made up the nickname, "Ace McCain" for him, though they were quick to point out that he was a "reverse ace," in that he lost his own planes. Some thought he should be nicknamed, "Crash McCain."
Mr French |
07.20.08 - 12:14 am | #
"and one he clipped a power line because he was fucking around and not paying attention."
I am surprised he was allowed back up in the air on that one.
The flame out is maybe yes or no on his culpability.
The ditch when landing sounds like his error as well.
EkCenTriK |
07.20.08 - 12:14 am | #
Link seems to work. Check your NSA cookie.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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07.20.08 - 12:14 am | #
The flame out is maybe yes or no on his culpability.
The ditch when landing sounds like his error as well.
The first time they go Yeah, shit happens, the second time they start to question what he's doing . . . the power line he should have been grounded.
I'm sure Daddy and Granddaddy had nothing to do with Captain 5th From the Bottom staying in the air.
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.20.08 - 12:16 am | #
I'd supply the link to Free Republic but I'd hate to embarrass them anymore than they must be with such a fucked candidate.
Mr French |
07.20.08 - 12:18 am | #
Shit. Cubs lose third straight. Only run is a solo homerun by Zambrano.
Shared Humanity |
07.20.08 - 12:19 am | #
In the stuff on Wiki it, implies that the plane survived his collision with the power lines in Spain. [His aviation skills improved, but he had another close call when he and his plane emerged intact from a collision with power lines after flying too low over Spain.], so I calls it four. Probably oughta be three, because he wasn't responsible for the Forrestal fire which destroyed his plane.
bo |
07.20.08 - 12:19 am | #
Let's play a game. I will print a short article and you guess the headline. Here's the article.
"WARREN, Mich. (AP) - Republican presidential candidate John McCain is seeking to bolster his appeal to voters on economic issues by speaking to some of those hardest hit in the recent downturn: auto workers.
McCain is visiting a General Motors Corp. (GM) site in Michigan developing a long-range electric car called the Volt.
After getting a briefing from GM CEO Rick Wagoner and other company officials, McCain is speaking at a town-hall event with workers at the GM Technology Center.
Earlier this week, GM announced $15 billion in cuts as it tries to weather a huge dropoff in sales of trucks and large cars on top of more long-term costs.
McCain has proposed giving a $5,000 tax credit to those who buy a no-emissions car."
WHich is the headline:
A. McCain Visits GM in Detroit.
B. McCain Touts Tax Credit for No Emission Car.
C. McCain Promises Money to Rebuilt Auto Industry.
DWD - Officially Retired |
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07.20.08 - 12:20 am | #
Evening, all.
Just back from a very nice Atriot meet n greet, with special guest the lovely Marcellina.
Anything going on while I was away I should know about?
steve hüssein® simels |
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07.20.08 - 12:20 am | #
Anything going on while I was away I should know about?
steve hüssein® simels | Homepage | 07.20.08 - 12:20 am | #
Did somebody say Barstow to Vegas? Yeah, I'm there about twice a year - usually between 11PM and 2AM. You're right - it's a speedway. Me and my AMG like to keep up with traffic - about 120MPH last time. Sorry about the carbon - I make up for it...
johno |
07.20.08 - 12:21 am | #
McCain promises money to Rebuild Auto Industry.
My guess, and also my update for Simels.
Ali, spiritual advisor |
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07.20.08 - 12:21 am | #
Anything going on while I was away I should know about?
I had sex with a woman ten years younger than me, how's about that?
Mr French |
07.20.08 - 12:22 am | #
I had sex with a woman ten years younger than me, how's about that?
Mr French | 07.20.08 - 12:22 am | #
High Five !
Gilly Gonzylon |
07.20.08 - 12:22 am | #
Who are these 10 brilliant new yorker atriots? Sounds wonderful.
annie, pud, mimi, shoelimpy, lubyanka, potato salad, econ102, incog, general zod and allen butler.
Wait, maybe it was just one person and I was really drunk...
Marcellina |
07.20.08 - 12:22 am | #
Woo hoo Mr. French!
The French guys always get the women.
Ali, spiritual advisor |
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07.20.08 - 12:23 am | #
WHich is the headline:
A. McCain Visits GM in Detroit.
B. McCain Touts Tax Credit for No Emission Car.
C. McCain Promises Money to Rebuilt Auto Industry.
DWD - Officially Retired | Homepage | 07.20.08 - 12:20 am | #
You left one out.
D. Irrelevant, Crazy Old Man Will Still Lose Election.
steve hüssein® simels |
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07.20.08 - 12:23 am | #
For the record, she was more impressed than I was.
Mr French |
07.20.08 - 12:23 am | #
Mr. French....
Too much info.....
Shared Humanity |
07.20.08 - 12:23 am | #
annie, pud, mimi, shoelimpy, lubyanka, potato salad, econ102, incog, general zod and allen butler.
Wait, maybe it was just one person and I was really drunk...
Marcellina
Rich really lays into McCain. It's refreshing to see that from the paper of record for a change. Although he did lose me at "Bloomberg for VP".
P.S. The cartoon is hilarious.
geor3ge |
07.20.08 - 12:25 am | #
Was thinking about my dad and his time as a pilot. For the good and bad of him, I know he lost two aircraft in his training days. (Both 51s). He spent 24 hours in a swamp in one incident pinned in the aircraft with the wing folded up on his arm.
The remainder of his flying career, he never lost another plane he was in control of. He had several in-flight issues including engines burning up and the like and brought them back home.
Comparing him to McCain, McCain had issues.
EkCenTriK |
07.20.08 - 12:25 am | #
The irony is that all French women are beautiful. Even the ugly ones.
I'm serious about this...
steve hüssein® simels
It's how they hold their mouths. I am also serious about this. Is true.
Ali, spiritual advisor |
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07.20.08 - 12:26 am | #
The irony is that all French women are beautiful. Even the ugly ones.
I'm serious about this...
steve hüssein® simels | Homepage | 07.20.08 - 12:25 am | #
Me three. Lost my cherry to a French beauty whom I instructed to only speak to me in French while we were going at it.
Gilly Gonzylon |
07.20.08 - 12:26 am | #
"My friends, the Stanley Steamer is comin' back in a big way!"
I must admit, that made me snort.
Mr French |
07.20.08 - 12:27 am | #
""My friends, the Stanley Steamer is comin' back in a big way!""
True Bio Fuels.
EkCenTriK |
07.20.08 - 12:27 am | #
annie, pud, mimi, shoelimpy, lubyanka, potato salad, econ102, incog, general zod and allen butler.
I was mimi. For the occasion I treated myself to a bad haircut and practiced butchering a German accent.
geor3ge |
07.20.08 - 12:27 am | #
DWD, I think the rebates are the money which will rebuild the industry. Somehow.
You are, of course, right that it makes no sense.
Ali, spiritual advisor |
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07.20.08 - 12:27 am | #
annie, pud, mimi, shoelimpy, lubyanka, potato salad, econ102, incog, general zod and allen butler.
I'm guessing pud looked pale
Of this group, 5 are probably the same person. Maybe 6.
Supreme Commander Thor |
07.20.08 - 12:27 am | #
"whom I instructed to only speak to me in French while we were going at it."
You were a virgin with demands?
EkCenTriK |
07.20.08 - 12:27 am | #
You were a virgin with demands?
EkCenTriK | 07.20.08 - 12:27 am
Seriously, you were "instructing" her?
In your dreams!
Ali, spiritual advisor |
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07.20.08 - 12:28 am | #
I'm envious of Gilly, who should fuck off ASAP.
Mr French |
07.20.08 - 12:28 am | #
The hottest French 60s female musician:
Francoise Hardy.
I almost fainted when I first watch this clip from the femininity dripping off of this woman.
I do remember going to Second City with my girlfriend in 1973 as a junior in high school and laughing so hard that I have been a fan of that venue ever since. I could not believe how funny these no names were.
The cast included Bill Murray and Dan Akroyd.
Shared Humanity | 07.20.08 - 12:10 am | #
I saw the original Lemmings stage show in 1973 or 74. before SNL was on TV.
Cast was Belushi, Chevy Chase, Gilda, Akroyd, the now forgotten but very funny Alice Playten, Paul Shaffer, and possibly Jane Curtin and Garrett Morris.
Hysterically funny, and most of it absolutely savage satire of the counter culture. The whole third act was a parody of Woodstock where all the rock stars were urging the audience to kill themselves. The house band was called Megadeath -- never been sure if the real Megadeth a few years later was aware of that.
steve hüssein® simels |
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07.20.08 - 12:29 am | #
OK, g'nite beautiful people. It's nice to know you all.
Marcellina |
07.20.08 - 12:30 am | #
I'm envious of Gilly, who should fuck off ASAP.
Mr French | 07.20.08 - 12:28 am | #
Go to hale!
Gilly Gonzylon |
07.20.08 - 12:31 am | #
Francoise Hardy.
I almost fainted when I first watch this clip from the femininity dripping off of this woman.
Erin, after I posted it I thought maybe I was jumping the queue. You probably have lots on cycling for a future post.
I'm keen to see Portland from a bike! Can you tell?
Ali, spiritual advisor |
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07.20.08 - 12:36 am | #
I think we should all start using "McCane"...
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MisterX |
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07.20.08 - 12:36 am | #
keep it lit
NTodd, Super Skank Lover |
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07.20.08 - 12:37 am | #
I think we should all start using "McCane"...
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MisterX | Homepage | 07.20.08 - 12:36 am | #
I'm down with it!
Gilly Gonzylon |
07.20.08 - 12:37 am | #
I think we should all start using "McCane"... - MisterX
Just a tad to subtle for people who aren't into Bogart.
bo |
07.20.08 - 12:38 am | #
I'm serious about this...
steve hüssein® simels
I still maintain that the French/Vietnamese lady's of the night in Saigon were the most gorgeous people on earth.
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.20.08 - 12:38 am | #
thought maybe I was jumping the queue
Not at all...the more info the better. It is indeed a nice place to ride.
ErinPDX |
07.20.08 - 12:38 am | #
McCane and the White Belt Gang. The Dreaded Bluehair.
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MisterX |
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07.20.08 - 12:38 am | #
Figured out who took up all the rooms at the Ace....big festival, see MusicFestNW.com, Sept 3-6. Bands of note, The Cool Kids and Mogwai. hee.
ErinPDX |
07.20.08 - 12:41 am | #
McCain goes from straight talk express to the early bird special.
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.20.08 - 12:42 am | #
The Dreaded Bluehair vote is ignoreable. Save the drama for Obama.
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MisterX |
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07.20.08 - 12:42 am | #
I heard the lamentable Chuck Todd of NBC news say that the election may come down to a single state this year: Michigan.
I doubt that very much and I hope that it is not the case. But if it is is, what kind of a nightmare will this be for the people of my state?
Lord, politicians and their toadies running around everyplace lying through their teeth and promising the world and not doing shit except messin up the traffic.
Michigan has been attacked viciously for the last thirty six years. If these people want the votes from here they had better find a way to do something to help. Actual headline in the Detroit paper tonight is, Don't let Detroit die without a fight.
I sit here day after day and listen as people criticize the auto makers (justifiably so in many cases) but I try to remind them that most jobs in the auto industry are not working for Ford or GM or Chrysler - it is working for little places that no one ever hears of, Muskegon Piston Ring, Sealed Power, Michigan Spring, Muskegon Camshaft, Campell Wyatt and Cannon, Mold Technologies and on and on.
When GM or Ford get sick the entire states goes on life support. These companies are the lifeblood that pays for everything around here.
We need these industries to be around to pay the pensions of the retirees and the taxes to support the schools and universities. (The school where my son is enrolled just raised their tuition 17% for next year due to declining state aid - where's my raise again?)
There are ways to save our industries that are reasonable and effective and good for the country. But drilling for more oil and subsidizing old technologies just does not make any sense.
DWD - Officially Retired |
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07.20.08 - 12:44 am | #
ErinPDX, heh. E's jealous.
NTodd, Super Skank Lover |
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07.20.08 - 12:44 am | #
McCane - We Got Nothing.
Now get the hell off my lawn and I'm keeping the ball!
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MisterX |
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07.20.08 - 12:44 am | #
"The Dreaded Bluehair vote is ignoreable. Save the drama for Obama."
Well the polls will close by the time they drive their towncars to the local voting station. However there is an evil plan in which they get in front of liberal voters to keeps them from getting there too.
EkCenTriK |
07.20.08 - 12:44 am | #
McMallWalker
A. Morphous, jerked around |
07.20.08 - 12:45 am | #
McBlueBlockers
Skinner T. |
07.20.08 - 12:50 am | #
There are ways to save our industries that are reasonable and effective and good for the country. But drilling for more oil and subsidizing old technologies just does not make any sense.
DWD - Officially Retired
I agree totally. I'd like to see the meme that building all of those deep sea drilling rigs are stealing resources from the renewable energy industries. The steel, copper etc, that are being used in foreign shipyards could be used in the US to build wind turbines, solar arrays, geothermal extraction, etc. Hell even canceling the use of the penny would provide the raw materials to rebuild the infrastructure of the US, with the benefit of several millions of new jobs.
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.20.08 - 12:52 am | #
This has been a strange day in the newz. I expect tomorrow to be even stranger. News releases about the Maliki government being issued from CENTCOM? Yeah, nothing to see here, move on.
We're still here?!
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.20.08 - 1:00 am | #
What, WTF? is anybody else on this blog not who I thought that they were?
focus, breezin' | 07.20.08 - 12:58 am | #
You're implying French doesn't have stamina?
Gilly Gonzylon |
07.20.08 - 1:00 am | #
Frank Rich's column is great. I love it when he gets nasty
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.20.08 - 1:01 am | #
Whoop! Gonna go look at the Full Moon minus one day... be right back with an on-the-spot report.
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MisterX |
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07.20.08 - 1:02 am | #
Stuck in Lodi, again, Sallyh.
Could be worse, could be stuck in Yerington, NV or Devil's Lake, ND. Twin Falls, ID - passable, at least in 1964.
bo |
07.20.08 - 1:02 am | #
McCain goes from straight talk express to the early bird special.
1Watt, Hermit
Then off to Bingo!
Barry from AK in Sharjah |
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07.20.08 - 1:08 am | #
Then off to Bingo!
Barry from AK in Sharjah
If he doesn't fall asleep watching Matlock on his vinyl covered couch.
Deguello |
07.20.08 - 1:09 am | #
You're implying French doesn't have stamina? - Gilly Gonzylon
nah nah, he's a machine - I know that ...
focus, breezin' |
07.20.08 - 1:10 am | #
What, WTF? is anybody else on this blog not who I thought that they were?
I'm not who I thought I was.
Stunt Woman |
07.20.08 - 1:11 am | #
You're implying French doesn't have stamina? - Gilly Gonzylon
nah nah, he's a machine - I know that ...
focus, breezin' | 07.20.08 - 1:10 am
A strong forearm and big bottle of Jergen's will see him through the long night ahead - machine, indeed!
Rammstein |
07.20.08 - 1:12 am | #
I'm not who I thought I was. Stunt Woman
You're not missing anything ...
you know I kid 'cuz I love
focus, breezin' |
07.20.08 - 1:16 am | #
Hello fellow Atriots,
I welcome all of you to the next Netroots Nation in my home town
Pittsburgh Pa. I will try to to make
your visit to my fair city as pleasant as possible. We will look forward to
seeing all of you!!!
PghPa |
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07.20.08 - 1:20 am | #
Hiya folks!
How the heck are ya doing?
Elias |
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07.20.08 - 1:21 am | #
Golly gee willackers, how'v ya been?
Elias |
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07.20.08 - 1:22 am | #
Pittsburgh SUCKS!!!!
Elias |
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07.20.08 - 1:22 am | #
Doing OK here her in Austin tonight!!!
PghPa |
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07.20.08 - 1:23 am | #
Had a great time here; Thank you Austin!!!
Will be heading to NOLA Monday on my way back home.
PghPa |
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07.20.08 - 1:29 am | #
otay off to bed. blog fodder:
GENEVA — Some pre-negotiation jabbing turned into a potentially damaging diplomatic incident Saturday when Brazil's foreign minister said rich countries' deception in trade talks reminded him of tactics used by Nazi propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels.
His comments drew a sharp rebuke from the United States, whose chief trade negotiator, Susan Schwab, is the daughter of Jewish Holocaust survivors. Her spokesman described the reference to Goebbels as “incredibly wrong.”
The controversy threatens to overshadow next week's last-ditch effort to save seven years of frustrating talks on a new global trade pact toward alleviating poverty around the world.
The so-called Doha trade round is already teetering on the brink of collapse. U.S. President George Bush has made a Doha deal a key part of his trade agenda.
Brazilian Foreign Minister Celso Amorim said the U.S., Europe and other wealthy economies have so frequently misrepresented the talks launched in Qatar's capital in 2001 that public perception has become totally warped.
1Watt, Hermit |
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07.20.08 - 1:29 am | #
The tollie can chomp my choad.
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MisterX |
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07.20.08 - 1:30 am | #
MisterX! How are Missus, Master and Missy X?
Had any farting contests lately at Chez X?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.20.08 - 1:30 am | #
Hey, Erin - is anyone staying at the Heathman (sp)? I love that place. Probably too pricey, though. Never stayed there, but loved the bar.
stuckinlodi |
07.20.08 - 1:36 am | #
including Christopher Guest's vicious Dylan parody.
While we're at it, there's always the eternally tasteful "Magical Misery Tour."
WF Buckley is still dead. Can I have the russert potatoes with snow peas?
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ |
07.20.08 - 1:38 am | #
stuckinlodi
yeah the heathman is great. as it happens, that's where i first laid eyes on ntodd and sarah deere
ErinPDX |
07.20.08 - 1:38 am | #
Mister X, looking forward to having Mlle and Maddy here tomorrow!
Life is good
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.20.08 - 1:39 am | #
Leibniz, no luck on that.
How about some dark chocolate cake instead? I've got raspberries and creme fraiche
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
07.20.08 - 1:40 am | #
Is Simels still about?
Just back from an all-day music fest that was capped by Lucinda Williams doing an encore cover of AC/DC's "It's a Long Way To The Top (If You Want To Rock n' Roll.) Really. I damned near fainted.
bill buckner |
07.20.08 - 1:41 am | #
You ungrateful bastards have a new thread.
Thers |
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07.20.08 - 1:42 am | #
My friends in Portland always said the Heathman bar as like Tiffany's in Breakfast at Tiffany's - nothing bad could ever happen to you there. But you met NTodd in meatspace there so I guess they were wrong...
Also, there's a rumor that it's haunted, which adds to its charm.
stuckinlodi |
07.20.08 - 1:43 am | #
While we're at it, there's always the eternally tasteful "Magical Misery Tour."
Just remember that every single line Tony Hendra is singing in that song is an ACTUAL JOHN LENNON QUOTE... that's what really made it funny.
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MisterX |
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07.20.08 - 1:44 am | #
What is the ``cosmic accounting system?'' --- Fuller's Economics.
[Typed in by Pat Salsbury.] The following is an excerpt from Critical Path by R. Buckminster (``Bucky'') Fuller. (Copyright 1981, St. Martin's Press, NY -- pp. 262-263)
``...We have pointed out that the geologist Francois de Chardenedes wrote for me a scenario of the technology of nature's producing petroleum which disclosed that the amount of energy employed by nature as heat and pressure for the amount of time required to produce each gallon of petroleum, if paid for at the rate at which the public utilities now charge retail customers for electricity, must cost over a million dollars a gallon. Combine that information with the discovery that approximately 60 percent of the employed in U.S. America are working at tasks that are not producing any life support. Jobs of inspectors-of-inspectors; jobs with insurance companies that induce people to bet that their house is going to be destroyed by fire while the insurance company bets that it isn't. All these are negative preoccupations...jobs with the underwriting of insurance underwriters by other insurance underwriters -- people checking up on one another in all the different departments of the Treasury, the Internal Revenue, FBI, CIA, and in counterespionage. About 60 percent of all human activity in America is not producing any physical life protection, life support, or development accommodation, which physical life support alone constitutes real wealth.
``The majority of Americans reach their jobs by automobile, probably averaging four gallons a day -- thereby, each is spending four million real cosmic-physical-Universe dollars a day without producing any physical Universe life-support wealth accredited in the energy-time -- metabolic -- accounting system eternally governing regenerative Universe. Humans are designed to learn how to survive only through trial-and-error-won knowledge. Long-known errors are, however, no longer cosmically tolerated. The 350 trillion cosmic dollars a day wasted by the 60 percent of no-wealth-producing human job-holders in the U.S.A., together with the $19 quadrillion a day wasted by the no-wealth-producing human job-holders in all other automobiles-to-work countries, also can no longer be cosmically tolerated.