I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Abserlootly...
I say there, A, that was rather succinct and on point.
But they've all been told by Very Serious People that Very Bad Things will happen if they don't vote aye, and the Dems know that if they don't rush through a vote, the ads are already prepared against them.
p o o p
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mer?
And yet they will, because the alternative is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
Well, that basically leaves out the entire Republican party and a good number of Democrats too. How the fuck they ever got elected in the first place is one of the great mysteries of the history of representational government.
Sinf -- Also, use a Sharpie to draw an arrow to the proper knee before you go in for prep.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
Thanks. Although I'm ultimately going to have surgery on both knees, so maybe it wouldn't be the end of the world if they got it wrong. This time. 
You are not fucking kidding me!
Shock doctrine at work? While we reel at the impact of the collapse of the pyramid, those at the top dance a jig.
What a racket.
Curly's expression here describes my reaction to this news.
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Why give "nearly unfettered authority" to people who have already demonstrated their untrustworthiness and incompetence in every conceivable way?
So, is there anything we can do about this?
leibniz, 
I don't see why Sarah can't get Jeebus to fix it.
As noted this morning, Face Value mortgages!
Hey, are you saying I can't use $700B?
Do you know something I don't?
Some Congressional Republicans warned Democrats not to overreach. “The administration has put forward a plan to help the American people and it is now incumbent on Congress to work together to solve this crisis,” said Representative John A. Boehner of Ohio, the Republican leader.
Shorter Boner: you're going to vote for this shit no matter what, because we think you're cowards. And we're probably right.
That fucking idiot Schumer has ALREADY ENDORSED it.
Thanks. Although I'm ultimately going to have surgery on both knees, so maybe it wouldn't be the end of the world if they got it wrong. This time.
Use the Sharpie to make a mark on your forehead and see what happens.
The talking point you're looking for is "financial dictatorship". The other one would be "Homes before banks."
Amen, Atrios.
Use the Sharpie to make a mark on your forehead and see what happens.
leibniz leibkins
Nah, I've already got the Mark of the Beast there.
I think a march on the Treasury Department is in order... tout de suite.
It's nice weather for marching in Washington, too.
mer-
What kind of birthday cake did you get?
NC State beats East Carolina in overtime.
lambert strether | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 3:25 pm | #
Got tired of presiding over your Electronic Klan Meeting?
It's just stage two of The Looting.
Hm. From the Treasury to Capitol Hill... I like that idea.
Some Congressional Republicans warned Democrats not to overreach.
Is it too much to ask someone - ANYONE - to punch one of these motherfuckers directly in the mouth on the floor of the Senate?
Sinf: Nah, I've already got the Mark of the Beast there.
I saw that movie. It's in the hairline, innit?
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As far as I can tell the Dems will endorse it as long as they get pork in return.
Jeffraham, you should submit that photo to LOLcats. It's a good expression.
I'd love to see Jim Webb taker Boner out.
George Bush's Golden Shower.
Parachute, I meant parachute.
Got tired of presiding over your Electronic Klan Meeting?
rootless-e
I was just trying to think of something to say ...
Why...have these god-fearing, honest decent patriots who came to Washington to serve god-fearing George W. Bush--- the man who single-handily saved the world from terra---proven to be anything but honest, moral and honorable soldiers of God whose only interest is giving American citizens heaven on Earth and trustful, reliable government?
Have you seen anything to make you doubt this?
More Boner:
Mr. Boehner added: “Efforts to exploit this crisis for political leverage or partisan quid pro quo will only delay the economic stability that families, seniors, and small businesses deserve.”
McConnell: “Simply put, now is not the time for partisan plans or pet projects.”
i.e. efforts to stop this from being a blank check will have GOPpers sobbing in the House about the 'murkin people and lead to Bush uncapping his veto Sharpie.
They want a vote before the end of the week. Shall we assume another capitulation? Because it's not as if a fucking blank check is anything other than a partisan plan designed to lick the asses of Big Finance.
It would be so fucking stupid of Paulson to place the crown upon his own head, Napoleon-style, because too many people know what he looks like.
He may as well dress up like a deer and walk around in the Tennessee woods during hunting season.
Happy Birthday mer!!!
"What kind of birthday cake did you get?"
--leibniz
Who can afford a birthday cake?
(pokes head out of hole - looks for T...G....P....ts)
I bet Charlie Rangel isn't gonna be fooled....
(pops back inside)
We. are. so. fucked.
Completely agree.
If it's made clear what these robbers are asking for, I can't see the American people going for it, either.
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Who is representing the taxpayer?
mer!!!
Happy Bird-dawg.
Is it too much to ask someone - ANYONE - to punch one of these motherfuckers directly in the mouth on the floor of the Senate?
dave™©
Where's Preston Brooks when we really need him?
As far as I can tell the Dems will endorse it as long as they get pork in return.
Nancy Nice has been looking positively stern. And Harry has that Mormon scowl on his face.
How I long for a return to caning in the Senate...
Mitch McConnell: the man whose head was made for a pike.
I love watching my money being handed over to random individuals and corporate interests, personally.
Give us the ability to reamortize mortgages in bankruptcy and I'd do it.
I have a question. Let's stipulate that a $700 billion dollar bailout is needed. Why is it needed all NOW. Couldn't you hold do one $100 billion dollar bailout a month for 7 months but announce the whole nut in advance?
Wouldn't that let the worst shit investments die a deserved death while still giving somewhat reasonable investments and the market the confidence to hold on? Why the "unprecedented" rush for "maximum" effect. It's like Saddam is reading to attack the UK in FIFTEEN MINUTES OMFG MUST DO THIS NOW OR DOOM!
They want a vote before the end of the week. Shall we assume another capitulation?
Democratic leaders have promised to pass a plan before the end of week.
They want a vote before the end of the week. Shall we assume another capitulation?
pseudonymous in nc
Judging by the FISA debacle, I'd say the answer is a big fat YES.
Past actions are usually a good predictor...
My only response is "Don't you god-damn DARE.
mer-
I can mail you one made out of kudzu.
Can I just say, in passing, that I'd really like to kick that 'Boo' golfer person hard in the bollocks?
Sorry.
I thought Republicans were all for smaller federal government, more privatization, and so on
how can you tell when a republican is lying?
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Happy birthday, mer!
A triple Atriot birthday today! mer, Athenae, and Virgotex. Nice.
Who can afford a birthday cake?
mer | 09.20.08 - 3:28 pm | #
Aw, that is depressing.
I could send you some of my award-winning baklava.
I have a question. Let's stipulate that a $700 billion dollar bailout is needed. Why is it needed all NOW.
Because they're only in office for another 4 months.
Chimpy is by far the worst President this nation has ever endured.
He fucking doubled the national debt, and will leave the new President with a host of fucking problems to deal with.
Can I just say, in passing, that I'd really like to kick that 'Boo' golfer person hard in the bollocks?
That's not very..... Oh. 'Boo'. Sorry.....
Migrating geese honking. Nice sound.
If it's made clear what these robbers are asking for, I can't see the American people going for it, either.
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Sparkle Plenty
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
You funny.
Mr. Boehner added: “Efforts to exploit this crisis for political leverage or partisan quid pro quo will only delay the economic stability that families, seniors, and small businesses deserve.”
Goddamn it. Doesn't anyone realize that this crisis has fuck-all to do with "families, seniors, and small businesses?"
Besides, when did Boehner and his ilk give a rat's ass about any of those categories?
"Why is it needed all NOW. Couldn't you hold do one $100 billion dollar bailout a month for 7 months but announce the whole nut in advance?"
--joejoejoe
From what I've read here today, they want to give it all away before Obama becomes President. Makes sense to me.
What was it called on the Soprano's - Bust Out. When Tony and crew take over a guy's sporting goods store when he gets into debt with them, take everything they want, suck every last cent of cash into their pockets, then torch the place.
That pretty much sums up the plan for me.
Who can afford a birthday cake?
mer | 09.20.08 - 3:28 pm | #
Happy Birthday, Mer! I would bake you a cake from scratch, but I can't afford the gas to bring it to you.
Sinf-
Good luck /w the knee Sx.
Remember to get and move as much as you can, get the knee straight when you're restin in bed (or it'll never get straight) and let the nurses wake you up in the night for your Percocets so you don't end up behind the pain eight-ball in the morning.
I'm confused. The guy on MSNBC is saying Congress authorized the plan this morning.
what am I missing?
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"A triple Atriot birthday today! mer, Athenae, and Virgotex. Nice."
--Sinf,
Really, neat. Also, I heard this morning Sophia Loren. swoon.
Really? I kinda like Boo Weekley. He's been fun to watch, IMO.
Hapyy Birthday mer, Athenae, virgotex.
I'm so confused, I'm gonna make sausage and egg biscuits.
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When my ACL was rebuilt, they gave me a machine that flexed the knee constantly for the first week, even when I slept. Never stiffened up.
From what I've read here today, they want to give it all away before Obama becomes President. Makes sense to me.
Well, duh. Affordable healthcare and financial regulation is bad for profits.
Wall Street is already betting on Obama, and even though their betting record isn't so good, they're prepping for being able to lie low counting their bailout money for the next four years, then funding a GOP campaign against him based upon 'failed to deliver on promises', with the prospect of another capitalist gang-bang.
I was kidding about the cake. I got one from ql a couple of threads down.
When my ACL was rebuilt, they gave me a machine that flexed the knee
constantly for the first week, even when I slept. Never stiffened up.
Hop, hop, hop!
evening moonbats
Remember to get and move as much as you can, get the knee straight when you're restin in bed (or it'll never get straight) and let the nurses wake you up in the night for your Percocets so you don't end up behind the pain eight-ball in the morning.
shrimplate
Well, thanks. It's arthroscopic, so I'm in and out same day. My nurse friend will take care of me at home for a while. I'll be OK. Can't be out of commission for long -- gotta be moving around at least by Friday (Sx is on Wednesday).
Because they're only in office for another 4 months.
DING DING DING DING DING!
When my ACL was rebuilt, they gave me a machine that flexed the knee constantly for the first week, even when I slept. Never stiffened up.
Though to be fair, it's not exactly erotic.
Passive motion machines. They slowly move your leg back and forth while you're in bed. If they adequately control your pain you should be able to deal with it OK and they really help move along the healing process.
New Job Opportunities Opening Up In Republican Bullshit Machine!!!
work for a world-class falsehood organization!!! the ginormous crony bailout has thrown all previous 'conservative economic theory' lines of lying out the window and we need new propoganda now!!! everything must go!!!
blame your friends! eat your enemies! divert attention to millions of innocent people you never met!! use your talent for pretzle logic to invent new theories that explain everything!!!
YOUR TALENT NEEDED NOW TO EXPLAIN GALAXIES OF CRAP!!!
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY
Mer, Athenae, Virgotex
It's getting crowded in here!
AND OLD!
why do I get the feeling that this is another vast right-wing conspiracy?
oh my - BERLIN (AFP) — Three executives dubbed "Germany's stupidest bankers" in the press have been suspended from state bank KfW over erroneous transfers of more than 500 million euros (710 million dollars) to the bankrupt Lehman Brothers, the KfW said.
Two board members and a top risk control manager were suspended "pending final clarification of the incident" following a meeting of KfW's supervisory board meeting attended by top ministers including Finance Minister Peer Steinbrueck, the bank said in a statement late Thursday.
A law firm has also been hired to see if further "consequences" are appropriate and the bank, already under fire over its rescue of IKB -- Germany's biggest casualty of the subprime crisis -- will subject its business procedures, especially those of risk management, to an "in-depth audit."
The bank state-owned lender mistakenly transferred more than 350 million euros to Lehman Brothers on Monday after the US investment bank filed for bankruptcy protection, and according to the Bild daily the total exposure has since been established at 536 million euros.
"I have never experienced anything like it in my life," Bild quoted Steinbrueck as saying after the meeting.
http://afp.google.com/article/
AL...HdkyYMaGqh3GUmA
Really? I kinda like Boo Weekley. He's been fun to watch, IMO.
Oh, I know. He's got the John Daly thing going. And to be honest, it'd be good for the Cup if the US won this one.
But I generally don't give a shit about golf outside the prospect of sticking it up the Yanks every two years. So I lock up my rational response to it.
Paulson needs to be monitored when he goes to the little treasury plunderer's room.
By a GS4.
happy birthday
Mer, Athenae, Virgotex
btw, unless I'm reading this stuff wrong, the total is more like 700B (bailout) plus 85B (AIG) plus 200B (Fannie/Freddie).
So more like 1 trillion, yes?
I expect to see the first Republican on a Sunday show blaming the cataclysmic economy on the failed Obama presidency, oh round about 3-1/2 weeks into January.
No it wasn't erotic, nor was the thing that continuously drained blood from the wound -- but they sure worked.
Three executives dubbed "Germany's stupidest bankers" in the press have been suspended from state bank KfW over erroneous transfers of more than 500 million euros (710 million dollars) to the bankrupt Lehman Brothers, the KfW said.
Waitaminnit - you can face SANCTIONS for that somewhere?
What the hell is WRONG with those people???
Try to avoid mixing Percocets with alcohol, or you might end up pantless in a cheap Vegas hotel with a sixty-year-old hooker and a bad headache.
I can haz bailout?
I figure about $50,000 ought to about do it. Drop in the bucket.
Comrade Bush!
Three executives dubbed "Germany's stupidest bankers" in the press have been suspended from state bank KfW over erroneous transfers of more than 500 million euros (710 million dollars) to the bankrupt Lehman Brothers, the KfW said.
I think an appropriate response to this sort of either stupidty or outright theft would be to put the heads of these assholes on pikes in front of the Bourse in Frankfurt.
I expect to see the first Republican on a Sunday show blaming the cataclysmic economy on the failed Obama presidency, oh round about 3-1/2 weeks into January.
I expect to see it tomorrow.
Basically, the Paulson plan punishes good businesspeople and rewards bad ones.
http://www.housingwire.com/2008/...-bank-deposits/
pantless in a cheap Vegas hotel with a sixty-year-old hooker and a bad headache.
shrimplate
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Brilliant ad at http://www.jedreport.com/ called
"Thank John McCain."
Try to avoid mixing Percocets with alcohol, or you might end up pantless in a cheap Vegas hotel with a sixty-year-old hooker and a bad headache.
shrimplate
Shit, then people really would mistake me for a Republican.
Try to avoid mixing Percocets with alcohol, or you might end up pantless in a cheap Vegas hotel with a sixty-year-old hooker and a bad headache.
shrimplate | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 3:38 pm | #
And with Percodan, it's even worse.
GO DUCKS!!
(sorry Ericka)
Willendorf Hussein Venus: Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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that was odd. a plane just went over my house, very low.
we are not in any flight path that I know of.
When my MCL was put back together in '84, the stationary bike was key to the recovery. That knee is actually tighter now than the other one.
It was a gross injury. I was wrestling, and when I tried to pick up my opponent, my lower leg went sideways.
That joint is not supposed to do that, I learned.
H*O*P*P*Y B*I*R*T*H*D*A*Y
Mer, Athenae, Virgotex
The ambitious effort to transfer the bad debts of Wall Street, at least temporarily, into the obligations of American taxpayers, was first put forward by the administration late last week, after a series of bold interventions on behalf of ailing private firms seemed unlikely to prevent a crash of world financial markets.
Um, since the American taxpayers are literally trying to save the world here, you think maybe some of the multinational corporations who will benefit from saving the world could actually, you know, build some factories here and maybe give us a break on energy prices for a while so that we can actually generate some tax revenue here?
Try to avoid mixing Percocets with alcohol, or you might end up pantless in a cheap Vegas hotel with a sixty-year-old hooker and a bad headache.
shrimplate
That sounds better than the Paulson Plan.
Of course, five years at the Hanoi Hilton would be better than the Paulson Plan.
spouse was explaining the virtues of the guillotine to me last night "it has only one moving part!" French haircuts are cheap.
The left's response to the crisis
Shit, then people really would mistake me for a Republican.
Sinf, awaiting knee surgery
Only if the 60-year-old hooker answered to the name "Larry."
Obama today in Florida at:
http://www.jedreport.com/
Relax, people. If we all rush out right now and make bad loans to each other, we'll be fine.
Question: Do the Michigan folks, who won't be allowed to vote because they have been foreclosed on, have to pay for the Kleptocratic Bail Out?
when even the fucking American Bankers Association is complaining, you'd have some hopes that .. ah fuck it.
so our tax dollars are being grabbed in a desperate attempt to plug the hole in the toilet?
but even if that actually works we will still be elbow-deep in shit?
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http://www.jedreport.com/
plantsman
Only if the 60-year-old hooker answered to the name "Larry."
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 3:43 pm | #
You know my hooker!?
Um, since the American taxpayers are literally trying to save the world here, you think maybe some of the multinational corporations who will benefit from saving the world could actually, you know, build some factories here and maybe give us a break on energy prices for a while so that we can actually generate some tax revenue here? Tralfaz
Goddam Socialist!
stoopit slanties
Now excuse me while I nationalize the debt of another industry.
FUCK! I waited all week to watch Notre Dame-Michigan State, which all week I was told I'd see on ESPN here. But they're showing UNC-Va. Tech!
Goddamn it!!
Now I may have to go out, which I really don't feel like doing. Fuck.
That link doesn't go to the McCain ad, plantsman.
ouch. just saw this article in the NYT, "The Pain of Selling a Home for Less than the Loan"
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/1...19short.html?
em
This was the situation confronting Mike and Linda Kelly, who needed to sell their house in the foreclosure-plagued Central Valley of California when Mr. Kelly got a new job 75 miles away.
The Kellys owe $300,000 on their house, which has a pool in the back, crepe myrtle bushes in front and, because Mr. Kelly is a ham radio buff, a 40-foot antenna above it. But the best offer they could get gave the bank $220,000.
CitiMortgage said it would approve a sale at that price, but at the last minute told the Kellys they needed to pay $166 a month for the next 20 years, a total of $40,000.
“When you are ready to participate in the loss, feel free to call me,” a Citi loss mitigation specialist, April Easter, wrote to them in an e-mail message.
jebus. my brother and his wife had to short sell their home in FL earlier this year. I guess they were lucky the bank didn't do the same thing to them.
French haircuts are cheap.
therealhellkitty
But the cleanup afterwards is a bitch.
oh yes, and here is the bumper sticker I want...
Global Financial Meltdown:
Vote Republican
Question: Do the Michigan folks, who won't be allowed to vote because they have been foreclosed on, have to pay for the Kleptocratic Bail Out?
GP 1/20/09 | 09.20.08 - 3:43 pm | #
They should pass a law preventing that.
Oh, wait...
The stars and the planets aligned just right on 3 separate 20 Septembers and gave us mer, Athenae and virgotex.
3 of the loveliest ladies on the intertubes.
Obama was dynamite in Florida today.
Mr. Boehner added: “Efforts to exploit this crisis for political leverage or partisan quid pro quo will only delay the economic stability that families, seniors, and small businesses deserve.”
Given the current economy and the fact that it's now the responsibility of John and Jane Q. Public to foot the bill for the greed and wretched excess green-lighted by Republicans, it's completely justifiable to raise taxes on the wealthy.
It would be irresponsible to let these people think the government was there to provide handouts paid for by hardworking middle class Americans struggling to put food on their families.
so our tax dollars are being grabbed in a desperate attempt to plug the hole in the toilet?
...
tacitus voltaire
You expected healthcare maybe?
Made a recommendation to my bff today:
let's go out and max out the credit cards today. When the bills come in, we'll put 'em all in a manila envelope, and send 'em to Hank Paulson.
She said: do it with your cards, not mine.
Anyway, sound like a plan?
You know my hooker!?
rorschach
Heard he was in Green Bay this week, asking folks if they wanted to put one "between the goalposts."
If tax-payers should help protect the rich (or once-rich) from suffering from problems of their own making, isn’t there a more pressing requirement - in justice at least - to protect the poor from suffering as a result of forces beyond their control.
http://stumblingandmumbling.type...bailed-
out.html
Some people say that half the hookers in Idaho are named "Larry."
Sinf, do you have any Therma-Care Heat Wraps for the knees?
Obama's back in the lead at Electoral-Vote.
I guess some voters finally figured out that Palin is that crazy woman down the street.
isn’t there a more pressing requirement - in justice at least - to protect the poor from suffering as a result of forces beyond their control.
Hey, the Republicans bought this government, the poor should buy their own.
But the cleanup afterwards is a bitch.
Willendorf Hussein Venus | 09.20.08 - 3:45 pm
just use lots and lots of cat litter.
Some people say that half the hookers in Idaho are named "Larry."
shrimplate
those are the nice ones
the nasty ones are named 'moe' and 'shemp'
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Um, since the American taxpayers are literally trying to save the world here, you think maybe some of the multinational corporations who will benefit from saving the world could actually, you know, build some factories here and maybe give us a break on energy prices for a while so that we can actually generate some tax revenue here? Tralfaz
Welfare Queen! Go back to Russia and wave hello to the reformer Palin-McCain ticket!
Some people say that half the hookers in Idaho are named "Larry."
There's only two hookers in Idaho?
Punishing single parents?
I see the US doesn't corner the market on sanctimonious assholes:
http://www.comcast.net/articles/.../
People.Rowling
Heard he was in Green Bay this week, asking folks if they wanted to put one "between the goalposts."
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 3:46 pm | #
Kinky.
Sinf, do you have any Therma-Care Heat Wraps for the knees?
plantsman
No, I ran out some time ago.
At least I think I did ... I should check, I guess.
“When you are ready to participate in the loss, feel free to call me,” a Citi loss mitigation specialist, April Easter, wrote to them in an e-mail message.
I'm a peaceful man, but I would have absolutely no problem waiting in the parking lot for that motherfucker and kneecapping her with a tire iron.
those are the nice ones
the nasty ones are named 'moe' and 'shemp'
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tacitus voltaire
Bush kept Curly for himself.
Just LUUUURRRVVVED his bawld haid.
I guess some voters finally figured out that Palin is that crazy woman down the street.
MP
From what I've been seeing of late, Palin has worn thin pretty fast.
Those felt really good after my surgery.
the nasty ones are named 'moe' and 'shemp'
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tacitus voltaire | 09.20.08 - 3:47 pm | #
And they have an unnerving tendency to comment on how purty yer mouth is.
saving the environment?
not worth it
providing healthcare to all children?
can't afford it
saving my rich friends' asses?
priceless!
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So the government is going to tax the folks who have been foreclosed on to cover their corrupt lenders.
How long do you think it will be before the right starts complaining again about "double taxation" of corporate profits?
Look, the rich are going to have to reach very very deeply into their own pockets to help pay for this mess, because the rest of us just don't have any spare coin.
That's all there is to it.
as I said in the thread below, I want the government to issue bonds to the American people who are now guaranteeing the big shitpile.
Bush kept Curly for himself.
Hands off that kittycat!
Roadmaster: Bush kept Curly for himself.
Hey, now!
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/20/business/
20prexy.html?em
hey, what a surprise, it's the fault of the Clenis, again:
To some extent, Mr. Bush was simply following a deregulatory pattern set by his predecessor, President Clinton. Perhaps the most significant recent deregulation of the banking industry — the landmark act that allowed commercial banks to expand into other financial activities, like investment banking and insurance — was signed into law by Mr. Clinton in 1999.
and the article is continuing to push the myth that this is all the fault of giving loans to poor (black) Americans:
“The Democrats pushed affordable housing goals, even in the face of evidence that people who got the loans shouldn’t have gotten them,” said Robert E. Litan, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.
He added: “I blame the Democrats for demanding that Fannie Mae keep buying these loans. I blame the administration for going along with it.”
I guess these are the memes we'll be hearing for the next few days. sigh.
Kinky.
rorschach | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 3:47 pm
He lives in Kerrville
From what I've been seeing of late, Palin has worn thin pretty fast.
Terry C - Obama/Bush 2008
That's the word here in Teh Wang™.
Although she still has some stubborn proponents.
This is just like the Iraq invasion, the unitary gangster theory. I’m wondering which East Jesus Hillbilly Academy of the Rapture dropout the Chimp is going to personally misplace in total control of the Fannie Group of Derivative Usery Gospel of the Holy Department of Reaming States of Bomb Humping Heckuva Triple Cheese Plunder Ownership.
I'm a peaceful man, but I would have absolutely no problem waiting in the parking lot for that motherfucker and kneecapping her with a tire iron.
dave™©
I hope she enjoys driving her Cadillac luxury SUV to the Treasury Depart...er...Welfare Office.
hey, what a surprise, it's the fault of the Clenis, again
The guy has only been out of office for like, oh, a decade or so...
And they said Democrats had buyer's remorse over Obama. Just wait.
It would be irresponsible to let these people think the government was there to provide handouts paid for by hardworking middle class Americans struggling to put food on their families.
Dear Senator Obama,
Here's a proposed draft of the speech I'm expecting you to give on the floor of the Senate when the Billionaire's Bailout Bill comes up for a vote in the next week or so.
I am also, by the way, fully expecting you to vote NO.
Very truly yours...
saving my rich friends' asses?
priceless!
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tacitus voltaire
1% doctrine applies to $$$ and getting their war on. Oh, and anything to do with Jeebus. That's all.
Derivative Usery Gospel of the Holy Department of Reaming States of Bomb Humping Heckuva Triple Cheese Plunder Ownership.
Can I get an AMEN!!
Chimpy is by far the worst President this nation has ever endured.
He fucking doubled the national debt, and will leave the new President with a host of fucking problems to deal with.
MP
And, yet, there are some people who want more of the same.
No matter what you try to tell them, they still want McCain.
Saved!
I found the ND-MSU game on regular ESPN (not HD). I didn't realize they could separate the feeds, but I guess that makes sense.
So I've got a relatively shitty picture and sound, but it's better than no game at all.
Derivative Usery Gospel of the Holy Department of Reaming States of Bomb Humping Heckuva Triple Cheese Plunder Ownership.
Can I get an AMEN!!
left rev, rookie cheesehead
Praise Beezelbub!
Nigeria's main militant group says it has blown up a major oil pipeline owned by Shell in the oil-rich Niger Delta.
The Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta (Mend) said it had used explosives to attack a "major pipeline" in the Asari Toru region.
Mend declared "war" on Nigeria's oil industry last Sunday after a fierce military raid on one of its bases.
If confirmed, the latest attack would be the sixth since Mend launched what it has called Hurricane Barbarossa.
In the past week, militants have attacked gas plants, oil installations and pipelines in some of the worst violence for two years.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world...ica/
7626712.stm
He added: “I blame the Democrats for demanding that Fannie Mae keep buying these loans. I blame the administration for going along with it.”
So we're allowed to play "The Blame Game" again?
Do you really want to go there, Mr. Rightwing Whore?
Congratulations, Sinf. You have indeed averted a crisis.
I keed, I keed.
Because they believe Obama is lying just as much as McCranky is.
From the Times:
Still another group of Democrats was pushing for a wider stimulus package that would direct help more directly and immediately to Main Street, perhaps including an increase in unemployment benefits and investments in infrastructure projects, including bridges and roads, that would help to create jobs.
A fourth, smaller group of lawmakers was highly critical and in some cases adamantly opposed to the plan. That group included including Senator Jim Bunning, Republican of Kentucky, and Senator Bernard Sanders, independent of Vermont.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/2...anted=2&_r=2&
hp
Independent? Ironically, Bernie Sanders is one of the few actual (democratic) socialists elected to public office in America. Surely the paper of record must know this or did the irony meter peg and set off editorial alarms?
"And that ticks me off because I do not want Obama," said Democrat Annette Kocsis, 68, a former Hillary Rodham Clinton supporter from Clearwater, scoffing at "the pit bull in lipstick," as Palin has called herself.
Lady, what is your fucking problem with Senator Obama?
No matter what you try to tell them, they still want McCain.
Terry C - Obama/Bush 2008
That's because the Dem nominee is a ni--GONG!
Either that, or they love Jeebus and hate Teh Ghey, or they make $5 mil a year.
Of course Fox News thinks Palin is a godsend for the Republican ticket.
But I think she is a particularly horrible public speaker.
One, she knows nothing about what she's talking about, and two, her voice can't possibly get more lecturey and chirpy and grating.
In the past week, militants have attacked gas plants, oil installations and pipelines in some of the worst violence for two years.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world...ica/ 7626712.stm
Moonbootica, Brit Lefty
Those wacky Nigerians. So addicted to $150/barrel oil.
Can I get an AMEN!!
left rev, rookie cheesehead
Praise Beezelbub!
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 3:54 pm | #
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
Still another group of Democrats was pushing for a wider stimulus package that would direct help more directly...
Jesus fucking Christ, Times, hire some decent goddam copy editors, whydoncha!?!?
Although she still has some stubborn proponents.
Sinf, awaiting knee surgery
SOME people are going to DIE stupid.
There's just no reasoning with them.
Lady, what is your fucking problem with Senator Obama?
Terry C - Obama/Bush 2008
They "don't trust him." He has "no leadership experience."
Both of which is code for "he's black."
the shares could drop again on Monday, as the traders have a good think over the weekend and decide to sell
Billy b
Mer
leibniz leibkins
Roadmaster
Plantsman
thanks
Doug
been up in the attic. 3 holes, but no real damage. gotta get a few shingles, tho. got a chain saw for the tree.
agave, I thought you were in NM?
ErinPDX
used to be. 3+ years in tx now.
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Lady, what is your fucking problem with Senator Obama?
Perhaps his tan is too permanent.
Those wacky Nigerians. So addicted to $150/barrel oil.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 3:56 pm | #
True, but I've got a connection with a Nigerian prince who is going to hook me up with some serious cash.
Of course Fox News thinks Palin is a godsend for the Republican ticket.
Apparently, a lot of folks think they're full of shit.
Either that, or they love Jeebus and hate Teh Ghey, or they make $5 mil a year.
Sinf, awaiting knee surgery
Or $5.00 an hour
True, but I've got a connection with a Nigerian prince who is going to hook me up with some serious cash.
rorschach
Have you forwarded his proposition to Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi yet?
Any member of Congress who looks at the plan
Every member of the House who wants reelection has to choose between the filthy rich and the little guy.
I guess insiders would short the little guy.
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That's because the Dem nominee is a ni--GONG!
Day after the election...
CORPORATE WHORE: Oh, by the way, Mr. President, I hope you'll forgive me for the "up yours, nigger."
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Of course.
CORPORATE WHORE: Oh, and I hope you'll have the good taste not to mention that I stopped by!
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Naturally!
This article seems to be pretty good. At least, it makes sense in the context of what Atrios and others here have been saying. And it uses language I can mostly understand.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/2...0nocera.html?
em
The Conclusion:
Finally, there is the question of how much it will ultimately cost. “Institutions so far have written down $550 billion globally of bad debt,” said Daniel Alpert, managing director of Westwood Capital. “We think that when you add up all the problems in the residential housing market still to come — further erosion of housing prices, mortgage foreclosures and so on — we are going to need another $1 trillion of write-downs.”
In other words, for all the toxic securities that Wall Street has acknowledged holding, there will be yet more mortgage-backed paper that will go bad as the housing market continues to fall. As much as we all hope the worst is over, it’s probably not.
And as much as we might hope that the government finally has the answer, it probably doesn’t.
i'm going downtown to find a woman who can give me a stimulus package
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Never fear. Huggy wants to handle health care the same way as banking.
My hero!
Why is the NY Times calling them "Mortgage-related assets?"
Isn't the whole reason we're in this mess because those things are liabilities, not assets
Can I get an AMEN!!
left rev, rookie cheesehead
Praise Beezelbub!
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 3:54 pm | #
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
rorschach
I'd like to invite the Goat with a Thousand Young to come forward to receive the offering....
Have you forwarded his proposition to Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi yet?
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 3:59 pm | #
I know they'd jump at it, so I'm trying to keep them in the dark.
Never fear. Huggy wants to handle health care the same way as banking.
He just going out with bang, ain't he? That could be the only explanation. I'm going to lose, but the fuckers will never forget Johnny Mac!
Amen. So which dropout is the Chimp going to personally misplace in total control of the Fainting Group of Derivative Usery Gospel of the Holy Department of Reaming States of Bomb Humping Heckuva Triple Cheese Plunder Ownership? Maybe he'll ask his dad for help on that one.
Can I get an AMEN!!
left rev, rookie cheesehead
Praise Beezelbub!
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 3:54 pm | #
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
rorschach
I'd like to invite the Goat with a Thousand Young to come forward to receive the offering....
left rev, rookie cheesehead
Where's Ba'al to share his burnt offerings?
I haven't heard one syllable from Gov. Palin, other than "Go Team!" horseshit.
Really.
How does she plan to reduce the US deficit, or rebuild the military, or face the energy crunch?
agave, glad to hear that the damage is not devastating at your home.
btw, has anybody heard from RMJ?
IMO You want a bail out? Then we immediately pull all troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan. We have an emergency here to attend to.
your assets are really derivative
punk
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And as much as we might hope that the government finally has the answer, it probably doesn’t.
TJ, just tryin' to get by | 09.20.08 - 3:59 pm
Also, this doesn't really include the commercial real estate market yet now does it? Most of this is residential bad debt, correct? What happens when the commercial market finally melts?
Nearly 17 million people in the Horn of Africa are in urgent need of food and other aid - almost twice as many as earlier this year, the UN has said.
Some $700m (£382m) in emergency aid is needed to prevent the region descending into full-scale famine, it said.
Top UN humanitarian official John Holmes said food stocks were critically low in parts of Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, northern Kenya and Uganda.
The area has suffered from drought, conflict and rocketing food prices.
The number of those at risk could rise still further "as the drought deepens and the hunger season continues", Mr Holmes said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world...ica/
7626562.stm
I haven't heard one syllable from Gov. Palin, other than "Go Team!" horseshit.
"Go team" is two syllables.
Where's Ba'al to share his burnt offerings?
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office
Houston, I thought.
I second the RMJ shoutout.
Praise Beezelbub!
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 3:54 pm | #
PAZUZU!!
At least in a banana republic, you get to grow your own bananas.
Sigh.
I don't see what the problem is with the professor:
http://www.andhranews.net/Intl/2...under-
64860.asp
Change the name of the blog to Diogenes.
Don't you people act like Pazuzu ain't the bomb-diggity.
He added: “I blame the Democrats for demanding that Fannie Mae keep buying these loans. I blame the administration for going along with it.”
The republics have all adopted the John McSpain strategery of make-believe. Soon they'll be blaming Yosemite Sam and Daffy Duck for the fucking meltdown.
Overlords! I like the sound of that!
What exactly did ol Hank tell members of congress?
What made the air go out of the room?
Soon they'll be blaming Yosemite Sam and Daffy Duck for the fucking meltdown.
billy b
You're dithpicable!
If, as some have indicated, the derivatives market is something like 10-20 times the size of the total capital from the world's exchanges, there aren't enough government bailouts available - even if you put every dollar from every nation on the table.
Just lean back and enjoy it, indeed.
Just keep a grand under the mattress to buy that rape kit.
"What made the air go out of the room?"
Notice of foreclosure from the Chinese?
Janna Barber told Channel 4 in Denver that students in her English class were asked to write an essay based on three sources that criticize, undermine or contradict the Republican portrayal of Palin's life as "a fairy tale" during her speech at the Republican National Convention.
"I was shocked. I was like, holy cow. This is just an open door for him to discuss politics with us," Barber told the station.
OMIGOD!!1!111!! Like, "discuss politics"? I mean, OM1GOD11!!1!!!
An English teacher at Denvers Metropolitan State College is being investigated by the college for bias, bullying and harassment after he gave students in his class an assignment to undermine Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin.
Sounds like a pro/con essay to me. Had to do a helluva lot of those in Rhetoric and Composition. The professor takes the pro position and the student has to write the con. Sounds like people were a little miffed that someone had the audacity to question Palin. The nerve!
I'm so weary of this "I'm from a small town, so I can be the President" horseshit.
Small towns look to bigger towns for everthing. Medical care, fixing your automobile, communication service.
Small towns are cool, but being from one is by *no* means some default qualification to run the countey.
How does she plan to reduce the US deficit, or rebuild the military, or face the energy crunch?
MP
Is Energy Crunch a new cereal? I'll bet Piper would love it!
/palin
Just keep a grand under the mattress to buy that rape kit.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 4:05 pm | #
Eh, why bother? It isn't as though anyone will be prosecuted.
If the markets have already written down $.5T in bad debt and this is anticipated to be a three year + long problem will the bailout really fix anything?
Will the government compel institutions to come to the "truth and reconciliation lending window" in order to get a bailout?
What exactly did ol Hank tell members of congress?
Whatever it took. It's an old drill.
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sheets
So what's the plan when Congress inevitably gets on their knees, open wide and take what Bush loves giving them?
Just keep a grand under the mattress to buy that rape kit.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | Homepage | 09.20.08 - 4:05 pm | #
Eh, why bother? It isn't as though anyone will be prosecuted.
rorschach
Well, the grand WILL at least pay for the midwife.
The entire NYT article carries only this little bit of direct criticism of the bailout plan (aside from the wishy-washy statements of Schumer et al.):
A fourth, smaller group of lawmakers was highly critical and in some cases adamantly opposed to the plan. That group included including Senator Jim Bunning, Republican of Kentucky, and Senator Bernard Sanders, independent of Vermont.
“The free market for all intents and purposes is dead in America,” Mr. Bunning declared on Friday. “The action proposed today by the Treasury Department will take away the free market and institute socialism in America. The American taxpayer has been misled throughout this economic crisis. The government on all fronts has failed the American people miserably.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/2...=2&
src=linkedin
Hey, grey lady, it would have been nice to include a quote from Bernie. I suspect he has a slightly different take.
agave, glad to hear that the damage is not devastating at your home.
btw, has anybody heard from RMJ?
TJ, just tryin' to get by
yeah. A coworker had his house smashed.
we were lucky. the tree snapped halfway up, so just the crown hit us.
cant get in the front door, tho. lol
tomorrow i tackle that. today just enjoy electricity.
and, no.
How does she plan to reduce the US deficit, or rebuild the military, or face the energy crunch?
McSpain's got that covered. He has a plan for it all. He's won wars, he's grown the economy, he knows how.
Also good from that story about the whiny little fucking wingnut who was stunned she was being asked to think:
(A college spokesman) said the college learned of the allegations from media reports and stressed that students can file complaints with the college that are investigated by administrators.
So, no complaint was filed? No phone calls made? No letters written?
Another wingnut lie. End. Of. Story.
Question: Do the Michigan folks, who won't be allowed to vote because they have been foreclosed on, have to pay for the Kleptocratic Bail Out?
GP 1/20/09
one way or another, sure they do.
They're raiding SS to pay for all of this, so if they are still working they pay ss taxes. Later, there may be no ss left for those who paid in. They'll pay for it in higher prices, more local taxes, etc.
Efforts to exploit this crisis for political leverage or partisan quid pro quo will only delay the economic stability that families, seniors, and small businesses deserve.
Here's an idea - let's give the 700 billion to small businessees, families, and seniors, and the money-fuck bankers and corporate fuckups can go eat shit.
So, no complaint was filed? No phone calls made? No letters written?
Sounds like Ms. Barber was upset that she had to research why her new folk heroine was a false idol. Oh well. We all have to find out Santa isn't real at some point in our lives.
GREIDER
Despite what the pols in Washington think, the RTC bailout was also a Wall Street scandal. Many of the financial firms that had financed the S&L industry's reckless lending got to buy back the same properties for pennies from the RTC--profiting on the upside, then again on the downside. Guess who picked up the tab? I suspect Wall Street is envisioning a similar bonanza--the chance to harvest new profit from their own fraud and criminal irresponsibility.
Hank just gave them eye and elbowed Ben and they fainted in ecstasy from his manly whiteness and they prayed for everything to make a way and then the chimp has his new army of bean counters to remove any possibility of votes mattering ever again, just like Iraq.
OMIGOD!!1!111!! Like, "discuss politics"? I mean, OM1GOD11!!1!!!
dave™©
"I'D rather, y'know, talk about, like, American Idol. Oh m'gawd!"
sheets
"Any member of Congress who looks at the plan to give Hank unchecked power to transfer $700 billion from the Treasury to his friends' companies and has any reaction other than "You've got to be fucking kidding me" does not deserve to hold office."
Don't you want to wait until you find out whether Obama's going to fuck us on this first, like he did on FISA? Going to be hard to backtrack on this one, Atrios.
Protip: Obama's gonna fuck us on this.
It's how he rolls.
"think for me"-Schumer to Paulson
Solution: DO NOT VOTE for any Dem who supports this, OBAMA INCLUDED!
I live in a Southern swing state on Obama's "gettable" list.
If the Dems support this bailout without adequate contingencies (many of which Sanders mentions) I may not vote this November. I certainly will not vote for the Democrat running for Senate/House.
And I will not vote for Obama if he supports this blank check.
I'll wait to see what Obama says. (Though I'm sure he's meeting with Citigroup Chair and former Clinton Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin about how to handle this...a man who is no less culpable than Sen. Phil Gramm).
The Dems oppose the Iraq War, but we're still paying for it as if the Rs are in power.
Meanwhile, SCHIP expansion, Unemployment Insurance extension, Mortgage Relief for Average Citizens is non existence. Nothing has changed in 2 years (I realize Bush wields the veto pen, but it's getting ridiculous).
I am sick of rich people raiding the coffers while the rest of us pay and the Dems act complicit.
If the Ds support this, there will be no money for anything else in the next decades. I will not support them if they support a trillion dollar blank check.
We might as well have Rs in charge in that case. Nothing will have changed.
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