HULK SMASH
Ha!
bah!
Hee!
off topic
vultures who predate upon old people
whee!
And another option would be to... stop being the sponsor.
Like when Dubya was in AA.
You should always call your sponsor first when you have the urge to invade another country.
quotes missing in that passage? Before the "this doesn't make any sense"?
attaturk, you lucky you not at da 'con dis weekend.
Steve Gilliard predicted Iraq would end like Dien Bien Phu. I think he was right.
I'll get this over right away:
No one could have predicted this!
A Sadrist or a Sadro-masochist?
Wait, I thought Sadr was al Qaeda.
/McCain
What happened at Dien Bien Phu? I assume that had something to do with the French in SE Asia?
the US cannot support Sadr because he care about poor people. that is all.
McCain's white daughter looks like Cindy Jr.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles...0108/ id_0.jhtml
Let's see.
Refresh my memory... Sadr is the Marquis of what?
And another option would be to... stop being the sponsor.
No, wait! McCain explained this to me! If we stop taking casualties, we can stay in Iraq. If we don't stop taking casualties, we have to stay in Iraq.
So if we stop sponsoring Iraq, we have to stay. And if we don't stop sponsoring them, we have to stay.
Well, McCain explains it better than I can....
off topic
vultures who predate upon old people
D2
Ah thought the word was "predatorize."
that is to say, Sadr is a socialist. he will never be supported. even if he would create a nationalist state indepenedent from Iran.
Sadr is the Marquis of what?
Queensbury.
Sadr is the Baron of Basra.
Nationalist thugs are better than clerical thugs?
The French army got caught in a valley of the same name by Vietnamese forces. They held out for a while, taking a lot of casualties and suffering before their humilating surrender. It was a big part of the end of real French power in Vietnam.
Sadr is the Marquis of what?
Queensbury.
Molly Ivors
He rules!
McCain's white daughter looks like Cindy Jr.
McCain's other daughter has a blue dot over her body.
Better linky to Cindy Jr. Take a moment to watch the video. This girl is a real asset to the campaign.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles...0108/
id_0.jhtml
Sadr is the Marquis of what?
Queensbury.
Molly Ivors
Unpossible! He doesn't fight fair!
Nationalist thugs are better than clerical thugs?
Sinfonian, righteously angry
Let's not invoke Christopher Hitchens, mkay?
Sadr is a socialist.
Islamofascistcommie.
And most importantly, Sadr remains perhaps the most popular figure in Shiite Iraq.
that would only matter if iraq were a democracy. colonies have their leadership pool chosen by their occupiers.
the French were bunkered down and the NVA had artillary in the hills above them. not pretty.
Invoke Christopher Hitchens? Aaaaiiieeee! Come not in that form!
And most importantly, Sadr remains perhaps the most popular figure in Shiite Iraq.
Next Week Bush is invading the Tiger Woods compound.
Further Ackerman:
The dangers of picking and choosing who the Iraqi premier should be outweigh any imperial temptations we may feel. We'll be just as responsible for Prime Minister Next-Up's mistakes as we are for Maliki's. And the Iraqis will never trust any leader that foreigners pick for them. In what's shaping up to be the Second Sadrist Intifada, you go to war with the prime minister you have, not the prime minister you might want.
Wesley Clark is on c-span2. /trick
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It's ironic that his name is "Christopher." Just saying.
Our money ain't worth what it used to, so we only need to up the monthly protection money we've been paying for peace and Viola! Teh Surge is working once again.
who is this fuck Ackerman and why is he not in Iraq with a rifle?
The United States would never consider working with a thug. It just isn't done.
This girl is a real asset to the campaign.
I'm not sure, but I think she makes the Bush twins look a little better.
Tha's saying something.
Depressing.
Food for thought: A Shiite dominated Iraq would not be a haven for al-Qeada.
Gen Giap surrounded the French and cut them to pieces. Everyone was killed or taken prisoner. It was the end of French Indochina. Gilliard predicted that Sadr would, when it suited Sadr's purposes, cut our lines of supply from Kuwait, surround the green zone in Baghdad, and cut us to pieces.
Gilliard has a series of maps of Dien Bien Phu and Baghdad and the road to the airpost laying out how this would all occur. It is just scary how prophetic he was.
No one could have anticipated that a political figure standing up against foreign occupation would be popular with the locals.
From The Previous Thread:
Sinfonian : Meander, that's brilliant. And it means all the more to me as a graduate of Mr. Jefferson's college.
De nada.
Vicki : I love the way Meander responds to commenters. I'd steal his/her style, but then I'd feel guilty about it.
Meander rocks.
I'm immensely flattered that you noticed. And that you think that I have a style worth stealing!
sdf : Meander, that so excellent quote was passed around quite a bit circa November 2004.
That's when I learned it! 
Question: is there a way to paste text into a .csv worksheet without including the associated hyperlink? I'm using a .csv file in order to avoid the hyperlinks, but I don't want to have to keep saving and closing the file after every paste in order to make them go away. Much obliged.
I can't decide whether or not to go to a spring training baseball game this afternoon. I'm afraid I'll be disappointed if I don't go because it's my last chance this year, but if I do go, that's a whole afternoon committed and I do have a lot to do ... and I don't know that I'd be all that excited to spend the money and time to go.
Decisions, decisions ...
No one could have anticipated that a political figure standing up against foreign occupation would be popular with the locals.
George Johnston | Homepage | 03.26.08 - 11:09 am | #
also he and his dad were popular for standing up to Saddam.
interesting that the people who were opposed to Saddam are also opposed to teh US isnt it?
The video in yesterday's Charlie Rose post had a very interesting discussion regarding how the religious thugs tried to take over their neighborhoods in the aftermath of the first Gulf War. Nobody could have predicted, ad nauseum...
pie -- i just saw your question. it appears just they learned recently with the revelation by the pentagon:
Bush administration officials said the fuses had been returned and that U.S. diplomats had been in touch with China and Taiwan to explain the error since it was discovered last week. But the Chinese Foreign Ministry, in a statement, said it expected to be told in more detail what happened and declared the shipment could have "negative effects" on relations between Washington and Beijing.
Unfortunately, we're screwed. Gas prices are going to strangle the economy at every level sooner or later. It's bad when everybody is having to shell out $100 per week or more just to buy gas. And no, the oil companies have zero incentive to lower prices.
and I don't know that I'd be all that excited to spend the money and time to go/i>
Go.
Read this earlier toady, and it seems to apply. From our pal Ahmad Chalabi:
"The American tragedy in Iraq," said Chalabi, "is that your friends in Iraq are allied with your enemies in the region, and your enemies in Iraq are allied with your friends in the region."
http://www.alternet.org/module/p...ntversion/
80547
Whoops, even with slanties. GO!
Say what you want about the French, they knew it was time to get out of Indochina (maybe a little late, but they got out).
"thugs". interseting. how are they using this word. what does it mean?
RE: Dien Bien Phu
Watch the first five minutes of "We Were Soldiers Once". Two good things - it shows what happened to the French forces, and Mel Gibson is not on screen during these scenes.
The American tragedy in Iraq," said Chalabi, "is that your friends in Iraq are allied with your enemies in the region, and your enemies in Iraq are allied with your friends in the region."
no one could have predicted . . .
Question: is there a way to paste text into a .csv worksheet without including the associated hyperlink?
i think it is a cell formatting option. in open-office, it's done with "remove formatting" or setting the cells to "default formatting" - i'm not sure what it is in excel, but i suspect it is similar.
Decisions, decisions ...
Sinfonian, righteously angry
Okay, but if you don't get your shopping and packing done, I am NOT going to the Philly walmart with you so you can buy underwear
I think Steve's statement on Dien Bien Phu would not pertain to Baghdad. We would just come in with the Air Force and kill all of Al Sadr's forces. Plus all the civilian population within 50 miles.
Not toady. Today.
Urk.
We would just come in with the Air Force and kill all of Al Sadr's forces. Plus all the civilian population within 50 miles.
State Approved Art | 03.26.08 - 11:12 am | #
an icbm would be quicker, and we are dying for a chance to see one of those go boom.
Decisions, decisions ...
Sinfonian
We're expecting another 4-8" of snow tonight. Think of your fellow northern dwelling atriots who'd give a pony to sit in the sun, smelling the freshly mown grass, hearing the thwack of the bat on a ball, slurping a cold beverage.
WAAAAA
GO! Sinfonian, GO!
"Things to do" can always wait - even my boss tells me this on occasion. Some things require more attention, of course, but still, not everything has to be done post-haste!
GO. You deserve to give yourself a little love.
that is to say, Sadr is a socialist. he will never be supported. even if he would create a nationalist state indepenedent from Iran.
euphronius Night School!
Absolutely!
.
They are opposed to the U.S. because we've bombed the shit out of them and wrecked their economy for the last 17 years or so. Our idiots in charge for some reason figured they'd blame Saddam for all that. For the average Iraqi, every bomb we dropped must have confirmed that Saddam's claims were true.
who is this fuck Ackerman and why is he not in Iraq with a rifle?
Spencer Ackerman and whaa?
http://www.washingtonindependent.../view/bushs-
war
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http://arablinks.blogspot.com/
20...conference.html
Read and learn
--- Voices of Iraq says the meeting, organized by the Sadr organization, included 300 tribal leaders, Shia and Sunni, from throughout Iraq, but the meeting also dealt with local issues including a promised re-opening of the "Bridge of the Imams" that links this mainly Shiite neighborhood on the west bank of the Euphrates with its twin district Adhamiya, mainly Sunni, on the east bank. (There is a nice satellite map on the website of the Meeting Resistance film, which was mostly filmed in Adhamiya.) Among the main points in the final statement of the meeting: A demand for scheduled withdrawal of the occupation forces from Iraq; and a statement to the effect the foreign forces are responsible for the internal divisions that have plagued Iraq since the invasion.
Statements to VOI by participants indicated that there had been considerable groundwork for this meeting, including reciprocal visits between Shiite and Sunni tribal leaders. Moreover, it looks as if the organizers of this consider this more than just an isolated or local reconciliation event, because VOI leads its story like this:
"The first Iraqi tribal conference wound up its proceedings on Sunday, in Kadhamiya, Baghdad, with the issuance of a final statement that demanded a schedule for the withdrawal of foreign forces from Iraq, and commitment to the return of those removed from their homes, and compensation for their damages."---
Basra is bigger than Fallujah, but given the incentive, the full force of American military might would eventually reduce it to the same result.
Okay, but if you don't get your shopping and packing done, I am NOT going to the Philly walmart with you so you can buy underwear
racymind
Silly racy. I can pack tomorrow.
But if not, can I borrow from you?
Food for thought: A Shiite dominated Iraq would not be a haven for al-Qeada.
Certified Mutant Enemy
Say what?
/McCain
Okay, okay, I'll go.
I was thinking since I would be in NYC on Monday that going to Yankee Stadium for the game might be fun. But I forgot it's Opening Day of the last season at the Stadium. Tickets are, um, scarce ...
D2 : Gilliard predicted that Sadr would, when it suited Sadr's purposes, cut our lines of supply from Kuwait, surround the green zone in Baghdad, and cut us to pieces.
Gilliard has a series of maps of Dien Bien Phu and Baghdad and the road to the airport laying out how this would all occur. It is just scary how prophetic he was.
Steve laid it all out. I wept, literally wept when I read it. And like a prophecy, there seems no way to avoid it.
This girl is a real asset to the campaign.
DON'T LAUGH. The kids are all watching "The Hills" on MTV - she's perfect for that demographic.
Halfdan : Question: is there a way to paste text into a .csv worksheet without including the associated hyperlink? I'm using a .csv file in order to avoid the hyperlinks, but I don't want to have to keep saving and closing the file after every paste in order to make them go away. Much obliged.
I usually paste into Notepad first to strip formatting and links, then copy/paste from there.
uh oh. Maliki gave the Basra forces an "ultimatum"
you know what that means.
The United States would never consider working with a thug. It just isn't done.
Penguin
yeah, just ask marcos, duvalier, d'aubuisson, pinochet, ...
For the average Iraqi, every bomb we dropped must have confirmed that Saddam's claims were true.
B1 Bummer
The fact we won't even talk about their dead must send a terrible message to the Iraqi people.
What about that MOAB thingy? Remember how the news people we all a-tingly with excitement when they saw the film of the test one explode in FL in late 2002 and they all fantasized about it blowing up Muslamics who wouldn't bow to our G-ds?
Sinfonian : But I forgot it's Opening Day of the last season at the Stadium. Tickets are, um, scarce ...
I thought they were closing Shea Stadium after this year.
yeah, just ask marcos, duvalier, d'aubuisson, pinochet, ...
Saddam Hussein. No, wait. We killed him.
NToddler gave me an ultimatum once.
Cost me a quarter.
yeah, just ask marcos, duvalier, d'aubuisson, pinochet, ...
nona | 03.26.08 - 11:16 am | #
dont forget our BFF Suharto!
I can't get over the bloodthirstiness of some people with respect to Obama and Wright. It isn't enough that that Obama didn't say these things, it isn't enough that he denounced the things that were said, it isn't enough that Wright is not connected to the campaign anymore, no, he has to give the critics some blood; it is demanded that he sacrifice more and more to appease those who weren't even really offended, but who saw in this an opportunity to screech about something.
Thanks, nona. I also found an article which included this:
Henry said the exact sequence of events that led to the mistake and the recovery of the items was unclear.
The "mistake." Funny.
Slimy little Chalabi.
I thought they were closing Shea Stadium after this year.
Meander
They are. But I'm talking about Yankee Stadium, which is also being replaced.
also he and his dad were popular for standing up to Saddam.
interesting that the people who were opposed to Saddam are also opposed to teh US isnt it?
euphronius Night School!
But Saddam would rape and torture Iraqis in Abu Ghraib. He would also carry out large scale attacks on Iraqis in the name of keeping peace and order.
it isn't enough that Wright is not connected to the campaign anymore, no, he has to give the critics some blood;
Crucify! Crucify!
Somosa, Batista,
Tomato, tomahto,
Suharto, Sukarno . . .
The United States would never consider working with a thug. It just isn't done.
Penguin
If Sadr was American, we would be making movies about him. That's one of the things that bugs me about the hawks is their complete lack of empathy or circumspection. They seem unable to look at things from the other side.
i repdict Maliki's "iraqi" "army" will either defect or suck against the forces in Basra.
Uncle Sam will come to the "rescue" and level the place.
Sinf in the City!!!!!!!!
They seem unable to look at things from the other side.
Falstaff
What other side?
/hawks
He would also carry out large scale attacks on Iraqis in the name of keeping peace and order.
And as mentioned in that video yesterday, paid "neighborhood watch" thugs to keep order. Just like us!
I can't get over the bloodthirstiness of some people with respect to Obama and Wright.
You ain't seen nothing yet.
yeah, just ask marcos, duvalier, d'aubuisson, pinochet, ...
nona | 03.26.08 - 11:16 am | #
dont forget our BFF Suharto!
People still haven't recovered from Chiang Kai-sheck's rule either.
Sinf in the City!!!!!!!!
Culture of Truth
First time since 1987. I can't wait.
Somosa, Batista,
Tomato, tomahto,
Suharto, Sukarno . . .
B1 Bummer
Sung to the tune of the Beach Boys' song Kokomo.
Al Sadr is the closest thing to a Ho Chi Minh that they have.
One thing's for sure. The string of US puppet regimes in Iraq is getting to look a lot like the string we propped up in S.Vietnam.
This latest "Tet" by the insurgents is being dealt with by an Iraqi force very much along the lines of the Vietnamization model of the late 60s.
Most likely with the same results as well.
I wish Obama had just told everyone to Fuk Off about Wright. He should have said I don't care what you think he said, what he said was right. Once Dems start sliding down that slope of apologies the opposition just puts more and more grease on the ground.
This is funny:
TPM: Coleman compares Al Franken to Rush Limbaugh
...But in preparing for his latest fight, Coleman has tried to turn the spotlight back on Franken, criticizing some of the more outrageous or profane things he's said or written in years of comedy routines and liberal commentary.
"If the partisan disease is what's tearing Washington apart, for years he was part of that," said Coleman, who officially launches his campaign Wednesday. "The talk radio culture, the Rush Limbaughs, the Ann Coulters, the Al Frankens. If that's the disease, I've tried to be the cure to that disease for a long time."
Coleman said Franken wouldn't be able to "work across the aisle with people he has so ridiculed and so debased."
Atrios is going to have Curtis Sliwa monitor this thread for unsocial behavior, so watch it.
Elias's March madness. | 03.26.08 - 11:20 am | #
we agreed on somethign! yeah!
They seem unable to look at things from the other side.
Falstaff | 03.26.08 - 11:19 am | #
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You're correct. They can't see themselves as another unless they're just like themselves so they don't have to. That's why they don't see inequality. I think they're the reptillians.
You're bringing your "I'm Not a Terrorist" Card and your "Don't Shoot - I'm White" placard, I trust?
But, but, Saddam gassed his own people! Yes, and we've blown up shitloads of Saddam's people, too. So that really showed him a thing or two.
Sinfonian,: ...I'm talking about Yankee Stadium, which is also being replaced.
I didn't know about Yankee Stadium! They can't build two stadiums at once, can they? (of course they can - I know) But they can't close them BOTH at the same time, can they?
Coleman said Franken wouldn't be able to "work across the aisle with people he has so ridiculed and so debased."
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 03.26.08 - 11:21 am | #
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Whereas Coleman has to deal with working class people 2-3 times a week.
Jenna photographs well
She sure does!
Elias's March madness. | 03.26.08 - 11:20 am | #
"we" used napalm in Fallujah. worse than gassing imho.
Decisions, decisions ...
Sinfonian
We're expecting another 4-8" of snow tonight. Think of your fellow northern dwelling atriots who'd give a pony to sit in the sun, smelling the freshly mown grass, hearing the thwack of the bat on a ball, slurping a cold beverage.
WAAAAA
noblejoanie | 03.26.08 - 11:13 am | #
Happy Spring!
You're bringing your "I'm Not a Terrorist" Card and your "Don't Shoot - I'm White" placard, I trust?
Culture of Truth
I have one on a cap and another on a jacket. Will that do?
Thanks for the tips. "Help" tells me that I should use the "Paste Options" button, but doesn't tell me what it looks like or where I can find it... Okay, found it. Doesn't work as advertised. Crap.
A shiite led Iraq would naturally not side, at least not directly, with Al Qaeda - who are openly Sunni led.
More over, while we've seen an al qaeda attack on our own shores, the al qaeda and similar groups have long been the enemy of many Shiite political groups.
This is yet another case of us acting against our own self-interests nationally to support the self-interests of the sponsors of our politicians.
Money, here, has taken any obligation from our politicians to support our self-interests in Iraq.
Coleman said Franken wouldn't be able to "work across the aisle with people he has so ridiculed and so debased."
You won't be across the aisle, Coleman, so don't sweat it.
Gravel to Run for Libertarian Nod
By Sarah Wheaton
Fed up with being excluded from the debates and otherwise marginalized, former Senator Mike Gravel of Alaska announced today that he will seek the Libertarian Party nomination for president.
That’s right, we said Mike Gravel, who had been running as a Democrat – not Representative Ron Paul, who has run on the Libertarian ticket in the past, but recently submitted his name to appear on the ballot in the remaining Republican primary contests
finally you can leave the Democratic party with grace and dignity
She sure does!
watertiger
Why isn't she in Iraq?
we agreed on somethign! yeah!
euphronius Night School!
[the sounds of firecrackers, champagne corks popping]
First time since 1987. I can't wait.
What's on your agenda, dude?
Darth and w have killed more Iraqis than Saddam.
Jenna photographs well
She sure does!
She learned that pose from working with me!!! I'm so proud.
Hey - these guys have Eddie Izzard live in the studio!
Don't know for how much longer...
You are pasty - that helps.
First time since 1987. I can't wait.
What's on your agenda, dude?
watertiger
The Straight Agenda.
I think Steve's statement on Dien Bien Phu would not pertain to Baghdad. We would just come in with the Air Force and kill all of Al Sadr's forces. Plus all the civilian population within 50 miles.
well sure, air support, because that worked so well for the Germans at Stalingrad.
She sure does!
watertiger
Why isn't she in Iraq?
She doesn't know she isn't supposed to strike a pose when in a snipers scope.
What's on your agenda, dude?
watertiger
We have no agenda that I know of. I'll email you.
If the partisan disease is what's tearing Washington apart, for years he was part of that," said Coleman, who officially launches his campaign Wednesday. "The talk radio culture, the Rush Limbaughs, the Ann Coulters, the Al Frankens. If that's the disease, I've tried to be the cure to that disease for a long time."
his pants must be in flames
His performance after Senator Wellstone died is the definition of partisan hackery.
We have no agenda that I know of. I'll email you.
looking forward to seeing you guys.
The Straight Agenda.
jac |
Hmmm....
I think America would be much more likely to accept Muqtada if he would change his name to Sandra.
ithink its pretty celar that an invading army can no longer win an urban guerrila war.
no one could have predicted . . .
And again, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MY BLOGMATE, ATTATURK!
Doesn't Sadr understand that a cease fire means he and his forces put down their arms so that Maliki and the Americans can go around and pick them off one at a time? Geesh.
I can't get over the bloodthirstiness of some people with respect to Obama and Wright.
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You ain't seen nothing yet.
Just Another Zero | 03.26.08 - 11:20 am | #
It's really about all they are going to have to work with. I anticipate hearing about unidentified flyers showing up in working class white/latino neighborhoods, "issue" ads that will be quickly disavowed by the McCanpaign but will do their damage, and lots of other under-the-radar nastiness.
I am sure all you Michiganders will appreciate this.
Gravel roads, instead of paved ones.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/2...r=1&
oref=slogin
'So when I heard that the food you can buy at 99-cent stores is more diverse than you might imagine, I decided to conduct an experiment. I’d make dinner every night for a week using mostly ingredients bought at these stores and then, on the eighth night — once I’d gotten my game down — I’d prepare a meal for friends made only from ingredients bought at 99-cent stores'
I think it's sweet when rich yuppies slum.
"we" used napalm in Fallujah. worse than gassing imho.
euphronius Night School!
There were so many war crimes committed in Fallujah, it's hard to keep track.
Dahr Jamail is the best independent reporter we have. He's documented so much of this:
http://www.dahrjamailiraq.com/
Saddam had rape rooms! We only have stick-foreign-objects-up-your-butt-while-being-
terrorized-by-dogs-rooms.
Atta's birthday? Who'da thunk it?
I can't get over the bloodthirstiness of some people with respect to Obama and Wright.
There is a huge 'what comes around goes around' potential there. Nobody is perfect, and our expectations of political figures is already absurd, but when you start to add in peripheral figures, the sky is the limit. Any person as high profile as a presidential candidate has a crazy uncle/pastor/ex-wife/husband somewhere. Do we really want to base our elections on whether Obama's minister said something hard to listen to, or if Hillary's husband has a wandering eye, or whether John McCain's Urologist smokes pot?
And again, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MY BLOGMATE, ATTATURK!
watertiger
Curtsies, screams BEOWULF!
Muqtada al Sandra
See, that's just not as threatening.
The truly frightening thing about Iraq (with respect to all the dead) is that Bushco is still in charge. The mere thought of that administration admitting a mistake is laughable.
So they rant about how great we are doing while it all turns to shit.
We Need To Get Out Of Iraq. Now!
Atta was born, not hatched?
HAPPY BIRTHDAY/HATCHDAY TO ATTATURK!
Muqtada al Sandra
See, that's just not as threatening.
Holden Caulfield | Homepage | 03.26.08 - 11:27 am | #
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How about "Heather Al Simmons"?
Coleman said Franken wouldn't be able to "work across the aisle with people he has so ridiculed and so debased.",/i>
He says that like it's a bad thing.
aguatigre has mail
If res is around, I was wrong yesterday when I said I would arriving in Philly at 12:30. It is actually 9:30 am. Apparently this Acela thing is some sort of high speed train that will transport me from Union Station to 30th St Station in about an hour.
Atta was born, not hatched?
HAPPY BIRTHDAY/HATCHDAY TO ATTATURK!
Vicki
Like Hillary Clinton I was born a poor black child.
Muqtada al Sandra
See, that's just not as threatening.
Sandra al Bullock.
Even less so. And with nice hair to boot.