I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Gravataroh... wake me up when september's over.


GravatarWhat.


GravatarDemocrats are going to force to vote on this three, four, five times between now and September. And they're already getting tired of voting `I'm with the president.'

Nice joke.


GravatarYAAAAAAAAAWN.


GravatarGive Paxcast one more shot, bitches.


GravatarWe love you man. He's working hard.


GravatarStill awake, and September begins...


GravatarOne linky yes. Two, you got some 'splaining to do Bernadette.


GravatarVideo taken by a spy drone over Haditha on the day in 2005 that U.S. Marines allegedly murdered 24 civilians appears to buttress defense arguments that the Marines were following rules of engagement, a former military judge says.

THANK GOD.

I was so worried that our blessed troops might have done something unseenly.

Jesus saves our pitiful souls.


Gravatar"AP reporters Deb Riechmann and Jim Abrams contributed to this report.

(This version SUBS 2nd graf to CORRECT spelling to Democratic, sted Democrat; INSERTS new 7th graf, The comments ... , to UPDATE with closing markets. Multimedia: An interactive with audio slideshows on families trying to keep up with mortgages is in the _business/stretching_the_truth folder. )"


Gravatarexactly Tom. so much for "forcing a vote."

fucking putzes. where the fuck is the Democratic Whip and why hasn't he told Brian Baird his life on the Hill will now be a living hell?

for fuck's sake, even Ellen Tauscher gets it. end this war. now.

no more funding. if the House won't stop the War it's time to get a new House. start with Allen Boyd and work outwards from there. primary challengers for Altmire and Carney and most especially for Allen Boyd. let 212 House primary challengers bloom.


GravatarMy husband is asleep, otherwise I'd be in bed comforting him.

God bless.


GravatarThis version SUBS 2nd graf to CORRECT spelling to Democratic, sted Democrat

Heh heh... he said Democrat Party.

AP = The former home of John Solomon.


Gravatar"stretching__the_truth_folder_"


GravatarAnd they're already getting tired of voting `I'm with the president.'

it's amazing how little President 29% has weighed down the House Republicans. It's almost as if the House Majority Leader refuse to make hay when the sun shines. maybe a rainy day would be a better hay day.

go figure. Iwonder what John Murtha is up to these days?


Gravatarfamilies trying to keep up with mortgages

Nah, that couldn't be the truth. We're living in the Bush Boom years.


GravatarMust abed. L8rg10rs.


GravatarCoaches suspended for drinking on field

LOL. Can we get any more un-American?


GravatarNTodd = pussy.

Tonight, I fuck him with my black dildo.

In his sleep.


GravatarCondi Rice Image Burnishment Proceeds Apace:

An elite Israel Defense Forces paratrooper unit shot and seriously wounded a Palestinian militant in Nablus' Old City early Friday.

The militant, who belonged to a cell that operated jointly under Fatah's military wing - the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades - and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, was taken to a local hospital for treatment.


GravatarMr. IGNATIUS: If those things haven't happened, I think everybody's going to
jump ship.

RUTSHURU, Congo, Aug 31 (Reuters) - Congolese troop reinforcements hurried on Friday to head off renegade Tutsi army units after a day of fierce fighting, raising the prospect of widening conflict in volatile North Kivu province.

Soldiers and ammunition arrived by air to reinforce a military base at Katale where forces loyal to renegade Tutsi General Laurent Nkunda fought heavy battles against government troops on Thursday that sent civilians fleeing for safety.

Two more brigades, each of around 2,000 men, headed to the area from positions further north and in the city of Kisangani.

The clashes have raised fears of a return to ethnic conflict in volatile eastern Democratic Republic of Congo, which bore the brunt of a 1998-2003 war in which some 4 million people perished mainly through hunger and disease.


GravatarNkunda and around 4,000 Tutsi troops deserted the Congolese armed forces (FARDC) in 2004 but were brought back into the army in special mixed brigades under a January deal brokered by neighbouring Rwanda's Tutsi-led government.

Nkunda, who claims he can draw on some 8,000 fighters, has accused President Laurent Kabila's government of supporting his enemies in the largely-Hutu Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda (FDLR) rebel group which operates in eastern Congo.

Tensions have risen in the past few months and witnesses said around 1,000 of Nkunda's fighters attacked Charlie Brigade's headquarters in Katale, before dawn on Thursday, triggering a day of heavy fighting.


GravatarI'm amazed at how germane this book i'm reading is to W, the war, and 'conservatives'. Writing in the early 60s, Richard Hofstater in The Paranoid Style In American Politics:

"...the paranoid is a militant leader. He does not see social conflict as something to be mediated and compromised, in the manner of the working politician. Since what is at stake is always a conflict between absolute good and absolute eveil, the quality needed is not a willingness to compromise but the will to fight things out to a finish. Nothing but complete victory will do. Since the enemy is thought of as being totally evil and totally unappeasable, he must be totally eliminated... This demand for unqualified victories leads to the formulation of hopelessly demanding and unrealistic goals, and since these goals are not even remotely attainable, failure constantly heightens the paranoid's frustration..."

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Gravatar"I want to go to Baskin-Robbins with you"-David Ignatius to 43


Gravatarhttp://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/01/us/01iowa.html? ex=1346299200&en=d4487729621d3380&ei=5088& partner=rssnyt&emc=rssThe judge went for the quick stay of his decision

:::After four hours, Robert B. Hanson, the same county judge who had deemed the ban on same-sex marriages unconstitutional, delayed further granting of licenses until the Iowa Supreme Court decided whether to consider an appeal.:::


GravatarI think there's going to be a bipartisan agreement on benchmarks that will apply this fall. And there'll be a series of indices about, you know, what has the government done? Has it passed this law? Has it done this reconciliation thing?

face it, there will be millions of 'conservatives' who we'll have to live with for the rest of our lives who will never give up on the idea that 'everything coulda come out ok in iraq if'n it wasn't for the libberuls'

even if the entire general staff of the U.S. Army tells 'em different

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Gravatarkmoiurl8rhr9s.


GravatarStray bullets hit civilians in the nearby town of Masisi during several hours of intense machine-gun and heavy weapons fire, prompting nearly all its 10,000-odd inhabitants to flee.

Witnesses said some residents began to drift back into Masisi on Friday, but the plight of the displaced added to an already precarious humanitarian situation in eastern Congo.

The U.N. World Food Programme (WFP), which says 200,000 people have been displaced by violence in North Kivu this year, said it hoped to get supplies to Masisi.


Gravatarmrs . ibrahim al-jafaari | 09.01.07 - 4:28 am | #

one only ever hears of these things in the U.S. if one listens to the BBC news... on every night 9pm pacific time on NPR

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Gravatar"The roads are impassable due to extremely bad conditions and the fact that that is where the fighting has been. The only way to bring it in is by air, so we're looking at different possibilities," said Aya Shneerson, WFP programme director for North and South Kivu provinces.

U.N. helicopters were shuttling troop reinforcements, weapons and ammunition to Masisi from Goma and returning soldiers killed and wounded in Thursday's fighting.

Military sources said 1,500 reinforcements had arrived in Goma and had been told they would be flown to Masisi.

...

clearly, what civilians in eastern Congo needs is for Bono and Target to find the next "hot" massacre.darfur being so passe.

goma GREEN.


GravatarShorter PETA President on Maher:

Cow belches worse than Hummers.


Gravatarclearly, what civilians in eastern Congo needs is for Bono and Target to find the next "hot" massacre.darfur being so passe.
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The interest support and care of the international community is a commodity that has no value at all.


GravatarThe surge is working!

Billions of dollars going to Bush and Cheney owned companies.

Democrats paralyzed.


GravatarGo to sleep!!

If I hear one more peep I'm gonna pull this car over and come up there!

Or something like that.


Our cable is out and I woke up to this odd noise. The network channel went off the air and I guess some kinna test tone was on.

TV off now.

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Gravatarone only ever hears of these things in the U.S. if one listens to the BBC news... on every night 9pm pacific time on NPR

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Tacitus Voltaire | 09.01.07 - 4:30 am


After a night flipping between BBC World and Fox Noise led me to the blogpost from the day before yesterday. Fox News - Dumber Than A Bag of Hammers.


Gravatarany one else gonna try to stay up for the 'maybe' meteor shower?


Gravatar Fox News - Dumber Than A Bag of Hammers.
Tom - 大肚腩 | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 5:12 am | #


from my studies of the wingnut brain, i have concluded that even Fox has not yet acheived sufficient idiocy and delusion to impress the wing-o-sphere

if you look at little green footballs, anti-idiotarian rottweiler and the like, you might conclude that nothing short of 11th century crusade rhetoric will resonate with the true believers

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Gravatarif you look at little green footballs, anti-idiotarian rottweiler ...
Every once in a while I think of filing a complaint with the FTC over the rottweiler's false advertising. That dog is obviously pro-idiotarian.


GravatarThat dog is obviously pro-idiotarian.
George Johnston | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 5:23 am | #


as they sit around in their bathrobes making pre-adolescant puns and vulgar jokes about muslims, they are pleased to think of themselves as hairy chested freedom fighters striking fear into the hearts of liberals and muslims everywhere. There is even a graphic to that effect on the little green fascist home page. truly legends in their own minds, these...

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Gravatarif you look at little green footballs, anti-idiotarian rottweiler and the like, you might conclude that nothing short of 11th century crusade rhetoric will resonate with the true believers

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Tacitus Voltaire | 09.01.07 - 5:21 am | #
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The resonating frequency of angry sociopaths


GravatarThe month of Septever.

How many times will AWOL say the words "Sept. 11th" this month?


GravatarTalk radio is their medium. The authoritative deep voice, doubt free, vengeful, and homed in on the hate.


GravatarSartre's thesis on anti-semitism as a method for failed and inadequate people to claim credit for the accomplishments of "their" tribe and to find excuses in the plots of the other, is generally applicable to all such delusions.


GravatarTalk radio is their medium. The authoritative deep voice, doubt free, vengeful, and homed in on the hate.
rootless2 | 09.01.07 - 5:32 am | #


a low frequency indeed. the idea that doubt is healthy would stupify and amaze them

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GravatarWhy does this story remind me of NTodd?
Man loses pants, but not his shirt


Gravataras they sit around in their bathrobes making pre-adolescant puns and vulgar jokes about muslims, they are pleased to think of themselves as hairy chested freedom fighters striking fear into the hearts of liberals and muslims everywhere. There is even a graphic to that effect on the little green fascist home page. truly legends in their own minds, these...

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Tacitus Voltaire | 09.01.07 - 5:27 am


Meanwhile the BBC was doing coverage of Sharif v. Musharraf v. Bhutto and the destiny of Pakistan and discussing the 50th Anniversary of Malaysia's independence.

and speaking of Malaysia, Dumbya's idiocy on the Prime Minister's deceased wife and remarriage made the papers there.


GravatarSorry no link. Try this.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/in....aspx? id=655521


Gravatarand speaking of Malaysia, Dumbya's idiocy on the Prime Minister's deceased wife and remarriage made the papers there.
Tom - 大肚腩 | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 5:38 am | #


got me there. what's that about?

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Gravatarlate night in austin recently, I found some syndicated christian radio host who was discussing topics like the involvement of jew holocaust propagandists in the Virginia Tech shootings, the censoring of racial information that would show black people responsible for most crime, and infighting among holocaust deniers. The host was defending the honor of some idiot deniers and repeatedly used the structure of "I spoke with him recently, and we were not speaking Yiddish, I can tell you that."


GravatarSartre's thesis on anti-semitism as a method for failed and inadequate people to claim credit for the accomplishments of "their" tribe and to find excuses in the plots of the other, is generally applicable to all such delusions.

The nativist movement found expression in a national political movement called the Know-Nothing Party of the 1850s, which (unsuccessfully) ran former president Millard Fillmore as its presidential candidate in 1856. Similar sentiment was also manifested in the Ku Klux Klan. The case of the murder of Father James Coyle, although also motivated by ethnic bigotry, was a prime example of anti-Catholic violence in the US.

In 1834, lurid tales of sexual slavery and infanticide in convents prompted the burning of an Ursuline convent in Charlestown, Mass., setting off nearly two decades of violence against Catholics. The resulting anti-Catholic riots (which included the burning of churches), were largely centered in the major urban centers of the country and led to the creation of the nativist Know-Nothing Party in 1854, whose platform included a straightforward condemnation of the Catholic Church.

By 1850 Catholics had become the country’s largest single religious denomination.


GravatarSorry no link. Try this.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/in....aspx? id=655521
Ralphie-Myrmidon | 09.01.07 - 5:38 am | #




you should get on our pantless one's website and copy him the story!

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Gravatara low frequency indeed. the idea that doubt is healthy would stupify and amaze them

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Tacitus Voltaire | 09.01.07 - 5:35 am | #

They need certainty, like the masochist needs the whip.


Gravatarand for those that think it doesn't matter if we elect Democrats to office, let's turn to Kansas.

You sign it, Gov. Sibelius

For the first time in history, a Kansas governor stands up for LGBT people

:::I just returned from a historic signing ceremony at the Kansas Statehouse. For the first time, a Kansas governor has declared that it's wrong to discriminate against lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender people in state hiring and on the job.:::


Gravatar"I spoke with him recently, and we were not speaking Yiddish, I can tell you that."
rootless2 | 09.01.07 - 5:41 am | #


i'm telling you, landsman, it never stops...

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GravatarTacitus - P O'Neill has the transcript

here's the story in The Star from Malaysia.


Gravatarshorter liberals:

"Just give up now, before we make so much progress with the surge that success is inevitable."


GravatarSartre's thesis on anti-semitism as a method for failed and inadequate people to claim credit for the accomplishments of "their" tribe and to find excuses in the plots of the other, is generally applicable to all such delusions.

again, The Paranoid Style In American Politics has something apposite to say:

"He sees his country as being so weak that it is constantly about to fall victim to subversion; and yet he feels that it is so all-powerful that any failure it may experience in getting its way in the world - for instance, in the Orient [read middle east for the current crisis] - cannot possibly be due to its limitations but must be attributed to its having been betrayed"
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Gravatar"I spoke with him recently, and we were not speaking Yiddish, I can tell you that."
rootless2 | 09.01.07 - 5:41 am | #

i'm telling you, landsman, it never stops...

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Tacitus Voltaire | 09.01.07 - 5:43 am | #

Years ago, in the deep south, I was talking very mild mannered black man, a quite traditional church going fellow who had a menial job and appeared to me at the time to be both ancient and "uncle tomish". Out of nowhere he said something like "many people here want things to go back to how they used to be, but now, ... we have guns."

I think that was the start of me appreciating what a great country this is.


Gravatarshorter liberals:

"Just give up now, before we make so much progress with the surge that success is inevitable."
pud | 09.01.07 - 5:49 am | #


hi pud. I'm betting you can't tell me what "the surge" is, exactly...

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Gravatarmrs ibrahim al-jafaari

Is this who you were thinking of on last night's thread?

http://www.salon.com/opinion/con...ay_republicans/
During the first week of August, Glenn Murphy, a Republican county chairman from Indiana, mysteriously stepped down as president of the Young Republican National Federation. In a letter to the nation's Young Republican leaders, he claimed that he was obliged to resign because of a pending major business opportunity. That explanation seemed unlikely in light of news concerning an investigation of Murphy for sexually molesting another man after a party. That young gentleman, a guest in a house where Murphy was staying, awoke the next morning to find the chairman's mouth on his genitalia.


Gravatarhi pud. I'm betting you can't tell me what "the surge" is, exactly...

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Tacitus Voltaire | 09.01.07 - 5:51 am | #


The surge is the key to our progress in Iraq.


Gravatarhi pud. I'm betting you can't tell me what "the surge" is, exactly...

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Tacitus Voltaire | 09.01.07 - 5:51 am | #

It's a feeling he gets watching armed men on Fox while playing with himself.


GravatarI think that was the start of me appreciating what a great country this is.
rootless2 | 09.01.07 - 5:49 am | #




and yet these conservatives accuse of of hating america...
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GravatarThe surge is the key to our progress in Iraq.
pud | 09.01.07 - 5:52 am | #


the question is: what specific changes in tactics and strategy has Gen. Petraeus implemented, using the 30k extra troops?

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GravatarThe surge is the key to our progress in Iraq.
pud | 09.01.07 - 5:52 am


Is pud admitting there is only "progress" in Iraq and no hope of ever succeeding?


Gravatarand yet these conservatives accuse of of hating america...

uh, "...accuse us..."

dagnabbit!

.


Gravatarhttp://www.lyricsfreak.com/k/ kin...e_20079424.html


Gravatarthe question is: what specific changes in tactics and strategy has Gen. Petraeus implemented, using the 30k extra troops?


More troops means less terrorists.


Gravatarsurge - fuckit - $100 billion every three months to blow shit up when the residents will do it for free? it is more of a splurge than a surge.


GravatarStill playing politics at Justice from Laura Rosen

:::The WSJ's Scot Paltrow reports that the investigation of former House appropriations committee chairman Jerry Lewis (R-Ca) has been stalled by lack of funds. "In Los Angeles, a federal criminal investigation of Rep. Jerry Lewis, a California Republican, stalled for nearly six months due to a lack of funds, according to former prosecutors. The lead prosecutor on the inquiry and other lawyers departed the office, and vacancies couldn't be filled. George Cardona, the interim U.S. attorney in Los Angeles, declined to comment on specific cases but confirmed that lack of funds and unfilled vacancies caused delays in some investigations.":::


GravatarMore troops means less terrorists.
pud | 09.01.07 - 5:58 am | #


you don't catch up on the news much, do you? are you interested in what american soldiers and generals have to say?

now, one more time: gen. petraeus has introduced new strategies to fighting the bloodshed in iraq, for which he asked for more troops. this new strategy is called "the surge". what are gen. petraeus' new strategies and what has the outcome been so far?


geez!
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GravatarMore troops means less terrorists.

Number of American Troops in Baghdad in 2002: 0
Number of Terrorist Bombings in Baghdad in 2002: 0

There is no empirical data to back up your lie.


GravatarMore troops means less terrorists.
pud | 09.01.07 - 5:58 am


BWAHAHAHAHAA! Karl Rove's got THE MATH.

As I said, Fox Noise Viewers - Dumber than a bag of hammers.


Gravatarhttp://www.lyricsfreak.com/k/ kin...e_20079424.html
rootless2 | 09.01.07 - 5:56 am | #




yeah!

made me laugh out loud!

gib mir a shtarker yid!

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Gravatarare you interested in what american soldiers and generals have to say?

bwaahahahahahaha! hell no. Just because he supports the troops doesn't mean he has to actually listen to them.


GravatarDid someone say the surge is working?


GravatarAmerica Akbar!

:::All passengers on an American Airlines flight from San Diego to Chicago were ordered off the plane, after passengers complained of hearing a group of Arabic-speaking Iraqi men.

The Iraqis were questioned by police but released. All of the passengers had to stay overnight:::


Gravatar"He sees his country as being so weak that it is constantly about to fall victim to subversion; and yet he feels that it is so all-powerful that any failure it may experience in getting its way in the world - for instance, in the Orient [read middle east for the current crisis] - cannot possibly be due to its limitations but must be attributed to its having been betrayed"
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Tacitus Voltaire | 09.01.07 - 5:49 am |

And it's strange how Hofstader's colleagues and descendants have ended up riding that current to power.


GravatarThe Iraqis were questioned by police but released. All of the passengers had to stay overnight:::
Tom - 大肚腩 | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 6:08 am | #

They shoulda arrested the complainer on the grounds that recognizing arabic is a sign of disloyalty.


Gravatarok, for the record: petraeus spent four years telling W he didn't know what the fuck he was doing in iraq. petraeus even wrote a book on anti-insurgent tactics.

now, there are two parts to the 'surge' strategy 1) since the iraqi police force turns out to be, effectively, shi'ite militias, we are using american soldiers as policemen in baghdad. the net effect of this is to move the chaos out of town for the meantime. 2) the real thrust of the surge, however, is to attempt to co-opt sunni militas to fight against the (rather small number of) al Qaida in iraq, who have made themselves unwelcome since they are like Taliban. American troops are rather uneasy with this tactic, since it involves giving large amounts of armaments to militia assholes who have recently been killing their buddies, and, also, these sunni militia men could turn the guns on our guys again at any minute. Again, the net effect is to move the violence to a different place.

Overall: violence down in baghdad and fallujah - violence up in other places.

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GravatarTacitus Voltaire | 09.01.07 - 6:11 am | #

hello - pud? has you stuck yerself around long enuf to gets yerself an education?

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Gravatarand, also, these sunni militia men could turn the guns on our guys again at any minute. Again, the net effect is to move the violence to a different place.


Who could have foreseen that all of that training and money given to Osama bin-Laden to fight the Russkies might lead to blowback for Merkins?


GravatarWho could have foreseen that all of that training and money given to Osama bin-Laden to fight the Russkies might lead to blowback for Merkins?
Tom - 大肚腩 | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 6:13 am | #


exactamundo. not to mention the chemical weapons we sold to saddam...
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Gravatarpud iz fled

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Gravatarexactamundo. not to mention the chemical weapons we sold to saddam...
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Tacitus Voltaire | 09.01.07 - 6:15 am


I'm sorry they didn't mention that on Fox Noise, so it can't be true.


GravatarMorning peeps.

Something is up with Petraeus otherwise there wouldn't be five reports coming out instead of just one.


GravatarWho could have foreseen that all of that training and money given to Osama bin-Laden to fight the Russkies might lead to blowback for Merkins?
Tom - 大肚腩 | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 6:13 am | #
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Nobody could have anticipated
that rain could make floods
or that giving guns to terrorists
could end up spilling blood


GravatarSomething is up with Petraeus otherwise there wouldn't be five reports coming out instead of just one.
ql-was in NY | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 6:17 am | #


some rumours about to the effect that petraeus might not toe the party line...

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GravatarNobody could have anticipated
that rain could make floods
or that giving guns to terrorists
could end up spilling blood
rootless2 | 09.01.07 - 6:18 am


The enemy of my enemy is my friend...

until he shoots me with my own guns.

(see also, right wing paramilitaries in Central and South America)


Gravataryou know we're only human
we're doing what we can do
but "Bin ladin determined to attack"
didn't give us any clue

and who could have known
back before our shock and awe night
that that jarhead Scott ritter
could actually have been right?

So don't be all such downers
talking about Dien bien phu
we got a supply contract with KKR
and they'll get those supplies through


GravatarThe article I read on Tuesday was from McClatchy. pretty much said the military wants to make it very clear that this is w's war and they are just doing what he tells them to. However, I think w couldn't get Petraeus to write the report he wanted so they will cherry pick the positive from the five. Also it spreads the blame.


GravatarThe enemy of my enemy is my friend...

until he shoots me with my own guns.

(see also, right wing paramilitaries in Central and South America)
Tom - 大肚腩 | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 6:21 am | #
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To see the sense in these strategies, you need to understand the meaning of "us".


GravatarThis whole thing is just surreal.


Gravatarmorning, all.
Petraeus wrote the counterinsurgency control manual, something tells me ql is right, he's not going to be the sockpuppet for stupidities.


GravatarSeptember! it's witching time, huh?


GravatarHere's the McClathcy article.

White said it suggests that the military commanders want to be able to distance themselves from Iraq strategy by making it clear that whatever course is followed is the president's decision, not what commanders agreed on.


Gravatarmorning, all.
Petraeus wrote the counterinsurgency control manual, something tells me ql is right, he's not going to be the sockpuppet for stupidities.
Ruth | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 6:27 am


Nothing has stopped him up to this point. So why stop now?


GravatarPetraeus got where he is by being an astute bureaucrat who steps away from the place where the shit is going to fall.


No way he is going to stand next to Bush.


GravatarTom, so far it looks from media reports that Petraeus has managed to keep from being too close to the disaster - we'll see how he comes down ultimately. But yeh, he's been plugged into the hole in the wall - still to be determined what he's going to make out of it.


Gravatarstill to be determined what he's going to make out of it.
Ruth | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 6:37 am


If everyone else knew for the longest time that the Sept report was bogus agitprop to be written by the White House, was Petraeus too dense to figure that out for himself?


Gravatarhttp://www.alternet.org/waronira...q/61390/? page=1


Gravatarwas Petraeus too dense to figure that out for himself?
Tom - 大肚腩 | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 6:38 am | #


he'll get to have his say when he appears in front of congress to report in sept. all eyes on him then! I am hoping for probing and relevant questions...

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GravatarJust for Labor Day holidays, Kroger potato salad has e coli. Beef has already been sold with e coli. spinach, too.

feeling hungry?


Gravatarhe'll get to have his say when he appears in front of congress to report in sept. all eyes on him then! I am hoping for probing and relevant questions...

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Tacitus Voltaire | 09.01.07 - 6:42 am | #

Probing? Relevant? Congress?


GravatarTom, I suspect that the cretin in chief tho't Petraeus would parrot his lines and he's not doing it - or else the Pentagon is embarrassing him out of it. As tacitus says, questions yet to come.


GravatarThe Chris Matthews Show this week - They finally get it - watch it on your local stations. The thing is the dirty fucking hippies have been saying it for more than a year now...


Gravatarrootless, think Schumer, Waxman - yes, probing and relevant.


GravatarI suspect the problem here is Petraeus is openly stating that the war will require a 10 year occupation and they really do not want the public to think about that.


GravatarFucking Schumer is already caving on the wh's pick for AG saying as long as it isn't an absolute wingnut but only partially wingnuttier they will go along.


Gravatarhttp://www.alternet.org/waronira...q/61390/? page=1
rootless2 | 09.01.07 - 6:41 am | #


hhhmmmmm....

I suspect the problem here is Petraeus is openly stating that the war will require a 10 year occupation and they really do not want the public to think about that.
rootless2 | 09.01.07 - 6:46 am | #


not to mention: a draft

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GravatarWhich committee will actually get Pet-man's testimony? Will we have to hear Joe Biden?


GravatarMorning, and all that.


Gravatarrootless, think Schumer, Waxman - yes, probing and relevant.
Ruth | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 6:45 am | #
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Schumer has never struck me as well prepared or able to cut through the bullshit.


Gravatarinteresting discussion, but i must cut out

laters, 'bats

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GravatarFucking Schumer is already caving on the wh's pick for AG saying as long as it isn't an absolute wingnut but only partially wingnuttier they will go along.
ql-was in NY | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 6:47 am | #
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The Democrats have a well worked out and tested strategy for ensuring that the final collapse is just a small step.


Gravatar¿Joo know what would be good?

Eef la blogsfera facilitated connections to such a degree that, por ejemplo,
The Freeway Blogger could work een tandem weeth Bob Somerby.

Imagine 500 overpasses een L.A. County, all reading "Chris Matthews is a Gigantic Wanker", and "Don't Let Your Kid Go To the Bathroom Near Tucker Carlson".

Ciertamente, an idea to sleep on, now that the sun, she ees rising, eh?

so.

(hasta luego, murcíelagos)


GravatarHi, Barndog, survived the summer?

Schumer has been very demanding in the hearings I've seen him in. And AG choice would have to be astonishing to be beneath standards set heretofore.


GravatarBanners reading 'Impeach' seems a better use of the space. Head scritches to el gato.

And Barry/Alaska's hospitalized Zoey.


GravatarExcept, of course, for Richard Stengel, he won't ever get anything.


GravatarYep Ruth - I've survived summer again, and so far.

Keep in mind, I have 2 - 4+ day festivals in the next 2 weeks.

Then starts fishing (for me anyways).


GravatarI am not gay, nor have I ever been gay. But things being what they are and for the good of the country, I am announcing that at this time, I will retire my post here in front of my computer and go to bed.

Thank you.

Oh and again, I am not gay nor have I ever been gay. I am just tired and need some sleep.

Thank you again.


GravatarMorning, all.


Gravatar10:30 set as Craig announcement of retiring, Washington Journal. in Boise.


GravatarHICA!
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GravatarJust heard the "I am not gay, I have never been gay" clip for the first time. It so, ya know, gay.


Gravatar'night, pigboy. Are you cheerful, then?


GravatarOh god, there's a vid of the interogation? Where?


GravatarWe had a meeting with Biden's foreign policy aid. Basically said that Biden's plan was not compulsary and that he is open to almost anything that will start getting the troops home. I don't know if all this vigiling & petitioning does any good in the long run except to remind people that ya know, there is a war on.


GravatarThis from CSpan - call in subject, GOPervs only, what shape is the party in? I can't call, but should be fun topic.


Gravatar'night, pigboy. Are you cheerful, then?
Ruth | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 7:06 am | #

Yes, in a sleepy way. Again, I am not gay and never have been gay. Although I do think Brad Pitt is kinda cute..... but not in a gay way... Oh gawd.... must sleep.


Gravatarql, going to D.C. the 15th?


GravatarRuth - yes. We're actually staying over night and having dinner with a bunch of atriots. Makes up for not going out west and meeting up with you guys for the fair.


GravatarGreat, ql, wish I could make it, too. But can't do both. And this will be the first time for me actually to meet Diane, my blog-mate.


GravatarHow cool is it when work sends out an e-mail with a link to a story about strippers?


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GravatarSlow this morning, so let me babble on about liquid coal. Here's Romm's take:

Liquid coal means liquid problems I haven’t been posting as much as I usually do, since I have been preparing testimony for the Congressional hearing on Wednesday. The committee has finally posted details of the hearing here. It should be a rousing debate. At least I won’t be all alone on the anti-CTL side.

In the course of preparing, one of Climate Progress’s readers sent me some high-quality information on the high level of water use in the liquid coal process, which I though I’d share. The key factoid is five to seven gallons of water are necessary for every gallon of diesel fuel that’s produced (and double that if you coproduce diesel fuel and electricity from coal).

This comes from a very useful report: “Emerging Issues for Fossil Energy and Water” by DOE’s National Energy Technology Laboratory. The key chart is (click on it for a clearer image):

GPM is gallons per minute, Bgal is billions of gallon, BPSD is barrels per steam day (whatever a “steam day” is), and I think 42 gallons per barrel (that’s what it is for oil, anyway). Ed Markey (D-MA) put this all in layman’s language on Grist:

Liquid coal is also incredibly expensive and resource-intensive to create, with small returns compared to the amount of energy and the immense number of new industrial plants needed to create it. Even setting aside the environmental impacts of coal mining, the water resources needed for this sort of undertaking would be staggering: 4.6 billion gallons per year of liquid fuels from coal would require between 21 and 60 billion gallons of water per year. To give some perspective, 60 billion gallons could fill 90,850 Olympic sized swimming pools.

There has been much buzz that new CTL processes would use less water. The hearing’s CTL/water expert — Dr. Richard D. Boardman, The Secure Energy Initiative Head, Idaho National Laboratory, Idaho Falls, ID — will hopefully clear that up.

The bottom line is that CTL is not a particularly smart long-term strategy for a nation and a world facing mega-droughts and chronic water shortages from human-caused climate change.


GravatarGood morning.

ql I bought my metropass today.

I'm so proud of myself.


GravatarSorry, my ital tags didn't hold. That was Romm writing, not me.


GravatarHBK, how did you buy your metropass?


GravatarMoe, that was Romm's assistant writing. From hearing the Mitt speak, I doubt he can write two readable sentences.


GravatarUm, no, not Romney. Rather, Joe Romm, former Clinton guy, who now writes a kick-ass climate change blog.


Gravatarql you can order your metropass here.


Gravatargood article on the American embassy in Baghdad that is being unveiled today. click homepage link.


GravatarThen there's Some Guy going on:

...You see a trend here? The shows are telling us that concern for the environment is a personal issue, a lifestyle choice. If we just drive the right car or the take the bus, screw in the right light bulbs, become experts in sorting garbage, we'll achieve eco-bliss. It's up to you and me, individually.

Well, no.

Don't get me wrong: I don't want to discourage people from learning how to live with a lighter enviro-footprint. Far from it. And I'm continually trying to do the right thing in my own life—retrofit the house, grow a garden and so forth. Good on the CBC for helping us learn how.

But all our individual efforts won't amount to squat if they aren't accompanied by major—radical, even—political action.

As I've pointed out before, if we are to avoid cataclysmic climate change, we in Canada need to cut our greenhouse gas emissions by 85 percent. In Nova Scotia, however, almost half of our collective GHG emissions come from four coal-fired power plants. Do the math: You can walk everywhere, use a composting toilet, eat only dandelions from your yard, whatever. It won't matter. If those four plants keep operating, we simply cannot avoid the worst effects of global warming.

As for the nation as a whole, on the one hand we can have 33 million people individually bringing cloth bags to the grocery store and making sure their car tires are properly inflated. On the other hand, we can mine the tar sands, which hold enough stored GHG that, if released, will make it impossible for Canada to meet even the weak emission targets of the Kyoto Protocol, and much less the targets necessary to actually head off global warming.

It's as simple as that: Canada either mines the tar sands or successfully minimizes the effects of climate change. If we keep mining the tar sands it won't matter how many microwave clocks are unplugged...


Gravatargood morning Ruth.

how are your kids holding up?


GravatarHBK - are you staying over?


Gravatarthanks HBK - I ordered as well.


GravatarMoe, I had read and liked that yesterday, and like that point that our individual efforts won't do it, we have to get involved. Tom Hartman on AirAmerica was making that point too.

mimi, they're doing okay, so far the ex has still not revived, tho has been taken off sedatives - and in a week or so they'll need to determine if there's mental activity.


Gravatarql I don't know if we're staying overnight.

Thanks for that link mimi.


Gravatarwell, here's wishing them strength and courage for that fateful day.


GravatarWho killed the DSCOVR project?

Somewhere in Maryland is a metal box containing a fully completed climate spacecraft that could save the world.

NASA’s Deep Space Climate Observatory (DSCOVR) cost over $100 million and was designed to measure the energy budget of our warming planet. Yet the spacecraft has remained in its box for the last five years and it looks like it is not going anywhere anytime soon.

NASA quietly cancelled the project altogether in January 2006 citing “competing priorities”.

What happened? How could the US government possibly justify killing DSCOVR given the importance of climate change and after over 90% of the project expenses had already been incurred? What role did petty partisan politics play in this? Did the oil lobby have any influence on this decision?

Over the next few months I am going to be digging into the history of DSCOVR, the reasons why it was cancelled, and why NASA refuses to release any internal documents on the decision to kill the mission.


More at the link.


GravatarMore:

The Earth’s temperature is a delicate balance between the amount of energy retained by the atmosphere and the amount being reflected back into space. This second number is called “albedo” and it is vitally important to scientists trying to develop reliable computer models on our changing climate. DSCOVR would provide vastly improved measurements of the Earth’s albedo because from L1, it would be able to continuously observe the entire sunlit disc of our planet.

Interestingly, a common complaint of climate change deniers has been that the satellite data used to develop climate models is unreliable. DSCOVR would go a long way to settling whatever honest debate remained about the reliability of those models.

Considering that these climate models are now driving enormous public policy decisions, one would think that DSCOVR would be a top priority. It certainly has been a priority of other governments. The French were so alarmed by the foot dragging by NASA they offered to send DSCOVR into space themselves at a greatly reduced cost. The Ukranian government even offered to launch DSCOVR for free aboard a Tsyklon IV rocket – the most reliable launch vehicle in the world.

The response from NASA? No thanks.


GravatarOne of the many comments to the post:

I read a quote from someone inside NASA calling the degradation of their Earth facing satellite system an engineered train wreck. The assertion was made that NASA will soon face a critical shortage of satellite eyes observing things such as the reduction of glaciers and the reduction of lakes caused by global warming.


Gravataron this day in history:

1939: Germany invades Poland
German forces have invaded Poland and its planes have bombed Polish cities, including the capital, Warsaw.
The attack comes without any warning or declaration of war.

Britain and France have mobilised their forces and are preparing to wage war on Germany for the second time this century.

Just before dawn today, German tanks, infantry and cavalry penetrated Polish territory on several fronts with five armies, a total of 1.5 million troops.

Click homepage link for the whole story.


GravatarMoe - It goes along with everything else this administration has done. If we don't know about it, it's not happening so we don't have to do anything. Or they're just trying to hasten Armegeddon.


GravatarWatching Tony Blow saying he's leaving to make a contribution to society. Well, that's what it amounts to. No further comments needed.


GravatarMimi,

Yes, and you are there: We could see the sun resting peacefully against the horizon as the day ended.
Just before full dark, the gunfire erupted. My father grabbed me and yelled, “Get down! Crawl into the unfinished rooms!”
I had little choice and so I did as I was told. My father hovered over me to protect me. My mother had picked up Andrew and we watched as she moved ahead of us. We moved as quickly as we could and I felt some relief when I felt the sand in my hands. It represented, at least temporarily, a haven.
I had never been so frightened in my life. Bullets were hitting the house and causing a tremendous clatter. We huddled together in the rooms that had white sand for floors with a sturdy foundation. My mother was praying aloud, my father was quiet.

The battle raged for nearly an hour. We could hear countless bullets fly overhead as if they were angry hornets. Some of them chinked off the foundation and more than a few perforated the house. Then, silence. A pervasive silence that beckoned all to be still.
But that was not to be. In a very short amount of time, the noise of a plane flying overhead broke the silence and we were pulled back to reality once again.
My father took advantage of the lull in the fighting to move into the house and rip the bedding from the beds. He came back as quickly as he could his arms full of blankets and pillows. My father lovingly put his hand on my mother’s shoulder to reassure her. My brother Andrew and I were laying down between them. Andrew was crying and my father let his hand fall onto Andrew’s back and rubbed gently. I could feel him lower his arm that so he touched me as well. It felt reassuring. We spent the night huddled in the darkness.


GravatarThe assertion was made that NASA will soon face a critical shortage of satellite eyes observing things such as the reduction of glaciers and the reduction of lakes caused by global warming.

See no evil...


GravatarMan, you take a few minutes to read the local fishwrap, and everyone goes back to sleep.


Gravatar"The White House is stepping in" - only for those with good credit histories. Which is not where the problem is.


GravatarAnd what if your credit has been ruined because you missed mortgage payments. It's nothing but a feel good program that won't really help anyone in need.


Gravatar"Ms. BORGER: Mm-hmm."

Translation: Fuck you


Gravatarql it's a lie, like everything else the cretin in chief does.

I wasn't asleep, I was having breakfast.


Gravatar"The White House stepping in" is another "Mars, bitches."

The idea that Bush would actually help homeowners, as opposed to lenders, is ludicrous.


GravatarI wasn't asleep, I was having breakfast

Dammit, and you didn't even ask me.


GravatarI figured I ran everyone off with my enviro posts.


GravatarSorry, BD, wasn't but one egg - next time.


GravatarI figured I ran everyone off with my enviro posts

Naa. I was reading about the serial killer the city just arrested. Once again, Michigan's wonderful and professional correctional system (the one I worked for) - let out someone who should have stayed behind bars.

His record reads like one long felony - since he was about 13.


GravatarFinally catching up in the Olde World:

Austrian Railways has introduced a total ban on smoking on all trains effective Saturday, September 1. And health minister Andrea Kdolsky has announced that the government will introduce new legislation to force restaurants and bars to set up no-smoking areas next year. According to the minister, any premises greater than 75 square metres will have to provide a separate non-smoking room. Meanwhile, smaller establishments will be able to choose whether they are totally smoking or non-smoking. The minister also said she couldn’t rule out a total smoking ban in the catering industry in the future.


GravatarWould anyone care for the traditional Saturday cat wrassle video? I have one goin' at YouTube... I just hope I'm not Vicked over it!
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Gravatarno, Moe, they were very interesting, and NASA along with much of the scientific community has been severely hampered by the executive branch. NOAA is lucky not to be shot down altogether, since Katrina made such an exposure of FEMA's incompetence. No more hurricanes = no more scandals, right.


GravatarHis record reads like one long felony - since he was about 13.

George Bush?


GravatarSorry, BD, wasn't but one egg

Well, I think you'd best enjoy that egg then, Ruth.

I was contemplating some french toast, with this fresh loaf of sourdough.


GravatarSome days I just feel like I've already said everything that there is to say. It was noted at the vigil on Tuesday that when the war first started 400-500 would show up for the weekly vigil. These days on Fridays they get 40-50 and on Saturdays a dozen. I imagine if the war keeps going on for another ten years there won't be anyone.


GravatarBarndog: I was contemplating some french toast, with this fresh loaf of sourdough.

That sounds good. I may have to do Crack'Ho Barrel instead of that Scottish place, this morning.
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GravatarI may have to do Crack'Ho Barrel

The one in town here isn't bad at all. I just can't deal with all the crap they carry to sell to tourists.

Nothing like a Mom & Pop owned breakfast cafe - like you'd find one anymore.


GravatarNew cat wrasslin' video
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Gravatarql, 40 - 50 is a good number. Wait until a serious effort to restart the draft gets going.

oh, ppoooorrr things, AZ has had more than 30 days of 110+ F. Ouch.


GravatarMorning, rational people.

Allow me to express how much I hate summer colds.

Thank you.


GravatarBarndog: The one in town here isn't bad at all. I just can't deal with all the crap they carry to sell to tourists.

I usually walk on by that, directly to the waitstation, to put in for a table. There's usually at least a five-minute wait at the one just west of me...

Nothing like a Mom & Pop owned breakfast cafe - like you'd find one anymore.

There's supposed to be some over on the east side of town, where all the hipsters live.
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GravatarYou guys probably don't even know about our letter bomber, eh?


GravatarWish I could watch, JP, but I'm on dialup here at home.

But you can see Diane's find that the GOPervs are shocked! shocked! that religion isn't a proper subject for political ads! at http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/


GravatarMoe Szyslak: You guys probably don't even know about our letter bomber, eh?

I pulled the pin on a "Q," once, but managed to put it back in before it was too late.
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GravatarYou too, Diane? I'm just getting over mine.


A Canadian letter bomber? Do tell.


GravatarYou guys probably don't even know about our letter bomber, eh?

No, eh?


GravatarDiane, I'd say Take Zinc for the cold, but read recently that absolutely no effect was discovered in recent tests. So bedrest and liquids remain the best plan, I suppose.


GravatarRuth: Wish I could watch, JP, but I'm on dialup here at home.

I try to keep 'em short (this one's 1:05) for just that reason.
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GravatarAh, it's all the news up here. Has been for about a month-- three letter bombs in the Toronto area, and then yesterday, they busted a guy. Note: no one freaked out about "terrorism":

Police detonate 3 bombs found in Toronto car

Police technicians have detonated three improvised explosive devices at Toronto's Leslie Street Spit after finding the bombs in the trunk of a car.

Southbound lanes of the Don Valley Parkway and all lanes of the Gardiner Expressway -- both major arteries in and out of the city's downtown core -- were reopened after police shut down traffic to transport the explosives.

At a news conference Friday afternoon, Deputy Police Chief Tony Warr said the three bombs were each about 35 centimetres long.

Police say the three explosives are linked to the arrest of a 37-year-old man taken into custody Thursday night. The man is the subject of an ongoing investigation into letter bombs mailed to two residences in Toronto and one in Guelph.


GravatarSo bedrest and liquids remain the best plan, I suppose.
Ruth


A perfect description of my weekend plans.

It's too hot for chicken soup, that's for sure.


GravatarThat's some fine black on white pussy action.


GravatarWhat Al-Jazeera reports about the supposed ransom paid for the Korean hostages (remember them?)

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/ ...A597BF6D7D5.htm


GravatarI'm going to let the dew evaporate off the Kymco's seat before heading out for breakfast. As much as I like a wet ass...
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GravatarJeez, I have seen an email and now a DMNews letter to editor saying that Foster's death sentence shouldn't have been commuted, since he had a bad record. Can we really be a society with people in it that think killing a person is okay if he's not a nice one? This has to be a joke.


Gravatarhttp://english.aljazeera.net/NR/ ...A597BF6D7D5.htm
Marcellina


Interesting.

I wonder if a ransom actually was paid.


GravatarI wonder if a ransom actually was paid.

My guess is yes, but it will never be officially admitted.


GravatarDiane, I will have some orange juice in your honor. Maybe with vodka? later.


GravatarThis has to be a joke.
Ruth


alas, no.

Funny post Diane.


GravatarMy guess is yes, but it will never be officially admitted.
Marcellina


That certainly would explain some of the anger towards the returning hostages that's been reported.


GravatarFunny post Diane.
ql-was in NY


Thanks, ql.

Ruth, I fully intend to pick up a bottle of bourbon to mix up a sure fire remedy for chest congestion.


GravatarMornin peeps


Gravatartea, two advil, a shot of whiskey or brandy, a decongestant. Better than Nyquil.

I know it's not true, but I really believe brandy has curative powers.


Gravatar♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ sittenpretty! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
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GravatarKorean Christian fundies in a Muslim country that wants to take it's citizens to the year zero.

Gee, what could go wrong?


GravatarHiya sitting pretty. Feeling better today?


GravatarKorean Christian fundies in a Muslim country that wants to take it's citizens to the year zero.

Gee, what could go wrong?
HoneyBearKelly




Gravatari will miss not going to the New Mexico Fair with the peepstis year..but I ddecided it may be my last chance to protest the surge,and any ecalation into Iran...
plus we had a delightful one here...i love my new home!!!


GravatarWhat Al-Jazeera reports about the supposed ransom paid for the Korean hostages (remember them?)

They were demented Christian fundamentalist evangelicals who somehow thought foisting one stupid religion onto people suffering from another stupid religion was worth sacrificing their lives and the lives of others.


GravatarThe xtian evangelicals from TX who were ransomed back out of the M.E. were another good argument for denying proselytes visas.

ql, you think people really believe in executing people for having a bad record? I am still amazed anyone could say that seriously.


GravatarHiya sitting pretty. Feeling better today?
ql-was in NY | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 9:04 am | #

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it is too horrible to keep on contemplating...i just can not think about it


GravatarTirolian cold remedy:

Heat schnapps on the stove, add honey. Drink right before you go to bed.


GravatarThe xtian evangelicals from TX who were ransomed back out of the M.E. were another good argument for denying proselytes visas.

Maybe the TSP should confiscate bibles as well as liquids.


Gravatarruth - As I've mentioned, several people here have suggested that we need to just kill all the arabs to get rid of the terrorism threat. And they are not wingnuts.


Gravatar♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ sittenpretty! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 9:04 am | #

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Jeffra...looking into stuff we can do while your here!


GravatarJP & SP sitting in a tree...


GravatarThe xtian evangelicals from TX who were ransomed back out of the M.E. were another good argument for denying proselytes visas.

As if!

This government has been overrun with Christofacists and it'll take years to purge them.


GravatarJP & SP sitting in a tree...
ql-was in NY | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 9:11 am | #

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he is a doll bbaby


Gravatarsittenpretty: he is a doll bbaby

You mean LarryElvis, obviously...!
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GravatarI'd say Take Zinc for the cold, but read recently that absolutely no effect was discovered in recent tests.

Surprise, surprise, surprise.


GravatarHey, this is a good day for this video.


Gravatar...although those white pants are illegal is 26 states.


GravatarWAKE UP...nothing is different! There will be no "change"...new direction...acknowledgment that their very own measures of success haven't been met...just more of the same...revise history...make your own truth...and CHRIS/TIM/GEORGE/BOB/et al will jump right on board and push that train right down the tracks...


GravatarI never realized that they had a white guitarist.


Gravatarspinoza, I like that plan - except drop the liquids.


GravatarKathleen Parker is a stupid bint.


Gravatarwho's K. Parker?


GravatarNothing, and I mean absolutely nothing, gets me to ignore someone more than them telling me to "wake up."


GravatarBusy complete at the homepage ... complete with schadenfreude ... but I'm too lazy to blogwhore this morning.

Go read it if you want. Or not. Whatever floats your boat.


GravatarSpeaking of LarryElvis, he sure is gettin' big.
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GravatarIt seems someone expected us to be dancing in the streets now that Rover's gone from the White House. This crowd is far too cynical for that.


GravatarCraig's office said late Friday that he would reveal his plans at 10:30 a.m. [12:30 p.m. EDT] at the Boise Depot.

He might be a little late. Has to make a quick restroom run.


GravatarDammit, I still have "I could have stanced all night" running through my head.


GravatarWhen is David Vitter's press conference to announce his resignation?


Gravataroh christ, the old lady is cranking her osu marching band cd.

cats, me, appalled.


GravatarThe loud consensus among political analysts was that Craig had become a dead weight on GOP hopes for retaining the White House and reclaiming Congress in 2008.

God, that's the funniest thing I've read all week, and I've read some pretty fucking funny stuff this week.


GravatarBasquing in sheets


GravatarThat certainly would explain some of the anger towards the returning hostages that's been reported.
Diane C. Barking-Mad | Homepage | 09.01.07 - 9:00 am


That, and I'd gotten the impression other Koreans didn't think the hostages should have been there in the first place.

My aunt, her brother's daughter is involved with that Texas group that did the same thing 6 years ago. My aunt has met a lot of them and they drive her nuts, "They want to be martyrs."


GravatarMy aunt, her brother's daughter is involved with that Texas group that did the same thing 6 years ago. My aunt has met a lot of them and they drive her nuts, "They want to be martyrs."
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That should be easy enough to arrange.


GravatarRe Larry Craig:
Has someone pointed out already that a bunch of easily-blackmailed Repub senators would be really easy for the WH to control?


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