A very good week for me.
Troutski |
06.16.07 - 12:08 pm | #
A couple of doubles and a grand slam.
Troutski |
06.16.07 - 12:09 pm | #
In a Washington court this week, Americans learned that Judge Reggie Walton has received threatening phone calls and letters for his sentence of Scooter Libby. Apparently, from John Cornyn, Tom Delay and Ann Coulter to the right-wing grassroots, threatening judges at all levels is now business as usual for the American conservative movement.
"When it became obvious what a dumb and cruel and spiritually and financially and militarily ruinous mistake our war in Vietnam was, every artist worth a damn in this country, every serious writer, painter, stand-up comedian, musician, actor and actress, you name it, came out against the thing. We formed what might be described as a laser beam of protest, with everybody aimed in the same direction, focused and intense. This weapon proved to have the power of a banana-cream pie three feet in diameter when dropped from a stepladder five-feet high."
Uncle Smokes |
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06.16.07 - 12:13 pm | #
Vonnegut was wrong. The war stopped. the soldiers came home. The vietnamese were no longer under bombardment or being sprayed with 204D.
rootless2 |
06.16.07 - 12:14 pm | #
Can re-occupation by the IDF be far behind?
blerb |
06.16.07 - 12:15 pm | #
Fred: "It's like putting your head between two not-fully-inflated punching bags."
Lime Rickey |
06.16.07 - 12:15 pm | #
man, it is fucking GORGEOUS outside.
watertiger |
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06.16.07 - 12:17 pm | #
Sorry for posting in both threads.
Vonnegut was wrong. The war stopped. the soldiers came home. The vietnamese were no longer under bombardment or being sprayed with 204D.
rootless2
Only after big business turned against it. Civil unrest had a part in influencing the turn of business opnion, but it was in the end the cost/benefit analysis that closed the conflict.
Uncle Smokes |
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06.16.07 - 12:17 pm | #
Fred: "It's like putting your head between two not-fully-inflated punching bags."
So it's like going down on K-Lo?
spinoza |
06.16.07 - 12:17 pm | #
Can re-occupation by the IDF be far behind?
blerb
Not at all. Israel has achieved its every goal. Withdraw from Gaza (not the West Bank), have the people start attacking each other, wall off the whole thing and ignore it. In the West Bank, continue the "settlements," keep stealing the water, engage in a never-ending "peace process" until such time as you can split the populace against each other, etc., repeat.
Moe Szyslak |
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06.16.07 - 12:18 pm | #
Wonk Alert!! Wonk Alert!!
Some Moron is defending the "Bush Doctrine" (didn't know there was one, other than “inhale PCP, make decision,”) on Cspan2,
The Pale Scott |
06.16.07 - 12:18 pm | #
I am surprise Saudi Arabia and Israel have not sorted out the Palestinian situation themseleves, because it is in both their interests
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
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06.16.07 - 12:18 pm | #
Moon-- most of my Palestinian friends grew up in Saudi Arabia. A few, in Jordan.
Moe Szyslak |
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06.16.07 - 12:20 pm | #
troutski, this is the NL
rosie |
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06.16.07 - 12:20 pm | #
Only after big business turned against it. Civil unrest had a part in influencing the turn of business opnion, but it was in the end the cost/benefit analysis that closed the conflict.
Uncle Smokes | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 12:17 pm | #
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But all the resistance combined to change the cost/benefit analysis. If the public had remained in thrall to the "nation at war" BS, the benefits of that would have outweighed the costs of the war for years.
The silliness of unorganized people opposing the mighty state and corporate world does not make it ineffective.
rootless2 |
06.16.07 - 12:21 pm | #
The Bush Doctrine: Creating more problems for oil:
really don't have much time for commentators who go on about 'oh we must talk to moderate', in this situation there aren't any moderates.
Sometimes you have to deal with people who you don't really want to deal with. Just look at N Ireland, Martin Mcguinness is now a MP and is in a government with Ian Paisley.
Moonbootica, Ninjabi | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 12:09 pm | #
adding - the quartet are wasting their time rallying behind Fatah.
if your in the Gaza Strip, then it does not bode well if you supported Fatah.
like my friend in Rafah, who was in shock yesterday seeing Hamas take over the Gaza Strip.
But thats just my view, I cannot give a satisfactory answer as I'm not there
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
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06.16.07 - 12:22 pm | #
Pitching's an odd skill. Schilling and Wakefield, for instance, are capable of one-hitters, and then being blown out 16-2 in the following game...
ProfWombat |
06.16.07 - 12:23 pm | #
I am surprise Saudi Arabia and Israel have not sorted out the Palestinian situation themseleves, because it is in both their interests
Moonbootica, Ninjabi
It is not in the interest of the Israeli hard right (or the U.S. for that matter) to have any settlement whatsoever.
Scorched earth is the name of their game.
Uncle Smokes |
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06.16.07 - 12:24 pm | #
I am surprise Saudi Arabia and Israel have not sorted out the Palestinian situation themseleves, because it is in both their interests
Moonbootica, Ninjabi | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 12:18 pm | #
Just the opposite. Both sides fear nothing more than a prosperous secular Palestinian state.
rootless2 |
06.16.07 - 12:25 pm | #
this "evil bloggers have dragged the Democrats too far left" seems to be the MSM theme du weekend.
Do they ever point to an issue?
Just wondering.
PS: I. Fucking. Hate. Summer.
Just had to get that out.
Jim |
06.16.07 - 12:25 pm | #
Rep. Conyers' committee hearing on the "Free Flow of Information Act" was on C-Span last night. It is billed as a reporters' shield act. The DOJ person was Rachel Brand, AAG for Office of Legal Policy. Sheila Jackson Lee and Wm Delahunt of Massachusetts questioned quite a bit about "a surge in secrecy" and an "explosion of things classified". It was interesting but a bit hard to follow. Given the Bush admin's tendency to name their legislation the opposite of its real intent, Free Flow of Information sounds like something far more sinister.
Have we run into Rachel Brand before? I couldn't tell if she was another Goodling or not.
nuncamas |
06.16.07 - 12:26 pm | #
Pitching's an odd skill.
I would think pitchers could rack up 6 or 7 quick wins early in the season, while their arms are strong and the hitters don't have their timing down quite yet. To win 20 over a season is a hell of an accomplishment.
MP |
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06.16.07 - 12:26 pm | #
I, for one, didn't know that George Clinton used to do hair.
Jennifer |
06.16.07 - 12:27 pm | #
It is manifestly in Israel's long-term interest to settle, just as it is manifestly in America's interest, even nakedly and selfishly expressed, to withdraw from Iraq. It would, further, be in America's interest to, say, spend the 600 billion dollars of Pentagon money more productively. There's no trick to this; I could go on all day...
ProfWombat |
06.16.07 - 12:27 pm | #
Thanks for not yelling sheets downstairs!!!!!!
I kid, I kid....
steve simels |
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06.16.07 - 12:27 pm | #
Vonnegut was wrong. The war stopped.
nah. it just took a break and then moved to drier climes.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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06.16.07 - 12:27 pm | #
'In our farming communities, what we see is the re-orienting of agriculture into those efforts such as industrial farming and mammoth animal farming that requires a no-benefit and low-paid workforce. Can you say 'immigrant'? This is a far cry from the large part of the country that lived on, and lived off of, their farms until they couldn't keep them anymore.'
The Baltimore Orioles had 4 20 game winners in one season back in the 70's, IIRC.
MP |
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06.16.07 - 12:27 pm | #
Just the opposite. Both sides fear nothing more than a prosperous secular Palestinian state.
rootless2
You beat me to it, rootless.
As long as Israel continues its actions, the Palestinian problem is an Israeli problem, not a Saudi or Jordanian problem.
But it works the other way as well. As long as Israel can claim that its very existence is at stake, it can steal land with impunity.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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06.16.07 - 12:28 pm | #
Just the opposite. Both sides fear nothing more than a prosperous secular Palestinian state.
rootless2 | 06.16.07 - 12:25 pm | #
Well, I don't think either side has anything to worry about on that score.
steve simels |
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06.16.07 - 12:28 pm | #
The next dem debate should interesting. Ya think maybe obama gets asked about his karl rove style dirty tricks shop? Ya think obama comes back with his "new kind of politics" schtick? Sure he will.
And ya think obama's karl rove style dirty tricks shop is stopping at smearing just Bill and Hillary? If Gore throws his hat in the ring obama's done. Also kinda makes one wunder about Edwards $400 haircut. Don't it.
hadenough |
06.16.07 - 12:29 pm | #
Meanwhile, back on MSNBC:
"White House hawks urging consideration of airstrikes"
Meanwhile, I see nothing happening on the left to prevent this from happening. I'm not sure there's even an "antiwar spokesman" saying anything about it.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted |
06.16.07 - 12:30 pm | #
Moonbootica, I feel really sorry for your friend in Rafah. I do hope their world isn't coming to an end, as it seems to be doing in so many places.
Ruth |
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06.16.07 - 12:30 pm | #
"it is manifestly in America's interest, even nakedly and selfishly expressed, to withdraw from Iraq."
What? and miss bringing on the end of days as advertised in the bible? you know, where we all walk with jeebus?
if you take the country as a whole, I think you are right. However, the power still rests with the Xians and the military industrial complex, and they think their interests are better served by moving the show to Iran.
besides - you're rational. The people who are still in power in the USA are not.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.16.07 - 12:31 pm | #
Just the opposite. Both sides fear nothing more than a prosperous secular Palestinian state.
rootless2 | 06.16.07 - 12:25 pm | #
Well, I don't think either side has anything to worry about on that score.
steve simels
I swear, you could taste the secular Palestinian state in 1989. It was right there, within reach.
It took a lot to break that, and yet Israel did it, while most the world yawned.
Moe Szyslak |
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06.16.07 - 12:31 pm | #
"The Baltimore Orioles had 4 20 game winners in one season back in the 70's, IIRC."
I recall that as well. Jim Palmer was one.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.16.07 - 12:32 pm | #
Meanwhile, I see nothing happening on the left to prevent this from happening. I'm not sure there's even an "antiwar spokesman" saying anything about it.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted | 06.16.07 - 12:30 pm | #
Said it before, but:
This is definitely gonna happen. And it will involve us using a so-called tactical nuke.
Some thoughts for the democrats running for congress. Stop running away when the rightwing nut jobs call you names.
The media and the republicans keep saying John Edwards is a hypocrit for talking about helping the poor when he is a millionaire. Well every damned one of the republicans running for the presidency is a millionaire, and who are they interested in helping???? I'll take the millionaire who wants to help raise all the boats in the water, not just the yachts.
They say the Gore (not running yet) is a hypocrit for caring about the ecology when he is a millionaire who lives in a house and drives a car. Every damned republican candidate is a millionaire who lives in a house and drives a car and they don't give a damn about ecology. I'll take the guy with the ideas to help save the earth, instead of the greedy idiots who just want to be the ones to get all the good out before anyone else does.
Why is it okay for republicans to be filthy rich and only care about corporations and the rich, while it is so wrong for democrats to be rich and care about the poor or the ecology? And why in Christ's name don't the damned Democrats call them on it????? Why doesn't Edwards say "yeah I've got money and so does everyone else running for President. I want to help the PEOPLE of America, they want to help the corporations and the rich. I want the PEOPLE of America to get good educations and have affordable health care and jobs that pay a living wage. They want to give the corporations tax cuts and encourage them to take jobs out of the country and let big Pharma run our health policies. End of story"
The democrats have got to stop running from name callers.
foolme1ns |
06.16.07 - 12:32 pm | #
Moonbootica, I feel really sorry for your friend in Rafah. I do hope their world isn't coming to an end, as it seems to be doing in so many places.
Ruth | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 12:30 pm | #
his great wish is to leave, perhaps to Cairo, as he as a friend there.
the only thing keeping him is his frail elderly mother, who he supports beside himself
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
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06.16.07 - 12:33 pm | #
besides - you're rational. The people who are still in power in the USA are not.
What, you don't think that the last 60 years of having the country driven over a cliff by the Herman Kahns and Curtis Lemays of the world isn't rational?
spinoza |
06.16.07 - 12:33 pm | #
As I was watching Pan's Labyrinth, I remembered that earlier security clearance form's I've filled out, mentioned the Abraham Lincoln Brigade as a forbidden membership for me or any member of my family.
I don't remember ever seeing the American Bund or any modern Nazi orgs being listed there.
Doug |
06.16.07 - 12:33 pm | #
As long as Israel can claim that its very existence is at stake, it can steal land with impunity.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
That has always been the default Israeli foreign policy posture. Fucking Chimpy has made it *our* foreign policy position, as well, and it's inexcusable.
MP |
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06.16.07 - 12:34 pm | #
Bush's watch found! On eBay!
Richard Cranium, LS/MFT |
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06.16.07 - 12:34 pm | #
"What, you don't think that the last 60 years of having the country driven over a cliff by the Herman Kahns and Curtis Lemays of the world isn't rational?"
Um - no. But I do remember growing up fundie and the joy people took in the world turning to shit, as it meant they were one stpe closer to heaven.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.16.07 - 12:34 pm | #
The democrats have got to stop running from name callers.
foolme1ns | 06.16.07 - 12:32 pm | #
The Democrats haven't a single spine amongst them.
They caved after Bush stole the 2000 election in plain sight, and they've done mostly fuck all to fight him since.
Ooh -- they blocked the Harriet Miers nomination.
Total victory is ours, comrades.
steve simels |
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06.16.07 - 12:35 pm | #
moonbootica, bet his elderly mother would rather not see him in danger?
Ruth |
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06.16.07 - 12:35 pm | #
It is manifestly in Israel's long-term interest to settle, just as it is manifestly in America's interest, even nakedly and selfishly expressed, to withdraw from Iraq.
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ProfWombat | 06.16.07 - 12:27 pm | #
Depends on who is defining national interest, don't it? If national interest is Empire, then the collapse in living standards that will force more suckers to join the army is only a good thing.
rootless2 |
06.16.07 - 12:35 pm | #
"I don't remember ever seeing the American Bund or any modern Nazi orgs being listed there."
Color me shocked...
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.16.07 - 12:35 pm | #
But all the resistance combined to change the cost/benefit analysis. If the public had remained in thrall to the "nation at war" BS, the benefits of that would have outweighed the costs of the war for years.
The silliness of unorganized people opposing the mighty state and corporate world does not make it ineffective.
rootless2
I agree--protest had an important effect on the cost analysis by big business.
To be clear, Vonnegut was speaking not of the general unrest, but of protests by artists and performers.
I was relating his quotation to the effect of political opinion blogs today. They indeed do have "the power of a banana-cream pie three feet in diameter when dropped from a stepladder five-feet high."
Blogs can make a mess and embarass the policy-makers. Blogs will not stop war.
Money makes or breaks a war, and blogs ain't got that kind of power.
Uncle Smokes |
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06.16.07 - 12:35 pm | #
I don't remember ever seeing the American Bund or any modern Nazi orgs being listed there.
No crime being a fascist in this country. And if we had required people to list any Nazi affiliations, half of NASA and the air force would have been out of jobs.
spinoza |
06.16.07 - 12:36 pm | #
moonbootica, bet his elderly mother would rather not see him in danger?
Ruth | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 12:35 pm | #
thats what I tell him.
but I think the first opening he sees, he will get out of the Gaza Strip as fast as possible.
to him all he sees is a dark future, he asked me 'where will we get food?'
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
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06.16.07 - 12:36 pm | #
spinoza: one could in fact argue that Herman Kahn's precise evil was his excessive reliance on a limited form of rationality. Curtis LeMay, on the other hand, could, in some hands, have been used to deny the theory of evolution...
ProfWombat |
06.16.07 - 12:36 pm | #
Do I have to bring anything?
smalfish, tinfoil hatted |
06.16.07 - 12:39 pm | #
Doug: when I took my pre-induction physical in 1971, they asked me about membership in various 'subversive' organizations. Among them were the Abraham Lincoln Brigade, the Wobblies, and, so help me, the Serbo-Croatian Women's Relief League...
ProfWombat |
06.16.07 - 12:39 pm | #
one could in fact argue that Herman Kahn's precise evil was his excessive reliance on a limited form of rationality.
Yep, as was true of McNamara.
spinoza |
06.16.07 - 12:39 pm | #
Anybody wanna join a Cult?
what drinks do you serve?
Moonbootica, Ninjabi |
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06.16.07 - 12:39 pm | #
"Anybody wanna join a Cult?"
maybe - what are the benefits? (insert obligatory tastee freeze joke here)
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.16.07 - 12:40 pm | #
Depends on who is defining national interest, don't it?
The term "national interest" may at one time held other connotations, but as long as I can remember, it was synonymous with corporate interest.
MP |
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06.16.07 - 12:40 pm | #
I'm not addressing the Palestinian situation because I find it too horrible. Ever since Hamas won the election, Palestinians have discovered new depths of despair. And I feel powerless.
rosie |
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06.16.07 - 12:40 pm | #
Thank God!!! - Tony Blair is being actively touted for the position of the European Union's first full-time president by new French president Nicolas Sarkozy, it has been reported.
Mr Sarkozy has discussed the idea with other EU leaders, including German chancellor Angela Merkel, prior to next week's summit in Berlin, according to the Financial Times.
However Downing Street insisted that Mr Blair had no interest in taking on a new, high-profile political job when he steps down as Prime Minster on June 27.
"The Prime Minister has made it clear that he is not going to return to frontline politics," said a Number 10 spokeswoman.
and why should we do anything about global warming, it's just bringing the rapture on?
from the homepage, UN Pres. Ban Ki Moon; 'Almost invariably, we discuss Darfur in a convenient military and political shorthand -- an ethnic conflict pitting Arab militias against black rebels and farmers. Look to its roots, though, and you discover a more complex dynamic. Amid the diverse social and political causes, the Darfur conflict began as an ecological crisis, arising at least in part from climate change.'
thanks to simels for pointing out that there is a new Airplane disc out. a 69 live from the Fillmore East. sounds like something that needs to be picked up.
Tom - 大肚腩 |
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06.16.07 - 12:41 pm | #
Second Sunni Mosque Is Blown Up in Basra
BAGHDAD, June 16 — Hooded gunmen clad in black blew up another Sunni mosque in the southern city of Basra today after ordering the police officers at the mosque to flee, and despite a curfew imposed by Iraq’s central government, witnesses and security officials said.
The blast at the Al-Ashrah Al-Mubashra mosque in central Basra — the second Sunni mosque razed in as many days — suggested that Shiite militias south of the capital have rejected calls for restraint from Iraqi leaders after explosions Wednesday toppled two minarets at a revered Shiite shrine in Samarra. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/1...baghdad.html?
hp
general betrayus:
When Gen. David Petraeus drives through the streets of Iraq's capital, he sees "astonishing signs of normalcy" in half, perhaps two-thirds of Baghdad.
"I'm talking about professional soccer leagues with real grass field stadiums, several amusement parks — big ones, markets that are very vibrant," http://www.usatoday.com/news/wor...-
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hadenough |
06.16.07 - 12:41 pm | #
Do I have to bring anything?
A hot dish. I'm bringing deviled eggs.
NTodd, Scign Brahmin |
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06.16.07 - 12:41 pm | #
I wouldn't be a member of a cult that would have me as a member.
rosie |
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06.16.07 - 12:41 pm | #
Anybody wanna join a Cult?
NTodd, Scign Brahmin
Now, don't get GWPDA on your case!
Uncle Smokes |
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06.16.07 - 12:41 pm | #
I was relating his quotation to the effect of political opinion blogs today. They indeed do have "the power of a banana-cream pie three feet in diameter when dropped from a stepladder five-feet high."
Blogs can make a mess and embarass the policy-makers. Blogs will not stop war.
Money makes or breaks a war, and blogs ain't got that kind of power.
Uncle Smokes | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 12:35 pm | #
I disagree. The blogs have already made a difference - and a difference in money too. This war never made sense for corporate America, except for the few insiders to Bush procurement. The ideological consensus that allowed Bush to rule is vulnerable to death of 1000 taps.
rootless2 |
06.16.07 - 12:41 pm | #
A teenage soldier who fell into a swollen river was still missing and more than 40 workers remained trapped inside a factory yesterday after thunderstorms and torrential rain caused severe flooding across the UK. Train services were disrupted, homes flooded and motorists stranded after heavy rainfall which is expected to continue into the weekend.
Three soldiers fell into Risedale beck on Hipswell moor, near Catterick garrison in North Yorkshire, while on a march yesterday morning. Two were rescued, but a third, aged 17, was washed away.
A hot dish. I'm bringing deviled eggs.
NTodd, Scign Brahmin
You're bringing deviled eggs *and* a hot dish?
MP |
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06.16.07 - 12:42 pm | #
one could in fact argue that Herman Kahn's precise evil was his excessive reliance on a limited form of rationality.
I have always enjoyed Herman Kahn's masterpiece of a book "The Role of the Sadist in Thermonuclear Warfare."
Good times!!!!
steve simels |
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06.16.07 - 12:42 pm | #
Gee, here's an interesting quotation:
"Herman Kahn was a giant. He boldly confronted public issues with creativity and the conviction, in his case correct, that thought and analysis could help make ours a better world."
-Donald Rumsfeld
spinoza |
06.16.07 - 12:42 pm | #
Like I give a rat's ass.
NTodd, Scign Brahmin |
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06.16.07 - 12:43 pm | #
The blast at the Al-Ashrah Al-Mubashra mosque in central Basra — the second Sunni mosque razed in as many days — suggested that Shiite militias south of the capital have rejected calls for restraint from Iraqi leaders after explosions Wednesday toppled two minarets at a revered Shiite shrine in Samarra.
Wasn't one of talking points surrounding the refunding about how the Iraqi government HAS, JUST FUCKING HAS to get their shit together?
smalfish, tinfoil hatted |
06.16.07 - 12:44 pm | #
NTodd: A hot dish. I'm bringing deviled eggs.
Since when are deviled eggs a hot dish?
I'll bring sittenpretty -- now there's a hot dish!
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.16.07 - 12:44 pm | #
Ooh -- they blocked the Harriet Miers nomination.
the republicans did that, of course.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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06.16.07 - 12:45 pm | #
Since when are deviled eggs a hot dish?
In Vermont anything warmer than a cow test in a blizzard is considered hot.
spinoza |
06.16.07 - 12:45 pm | #
"Wasn't one of talking points surrounding the refunding about how the Iraqi government HAS, JUST FUCKING HAS to get their shit together?"
"In six months we will be able to tell if the surge was successful. Support the troops"
Seething Webbs with cyanide.
NTodd, Scign Brahmin |
i'll take two of those.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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06.16.07 - 12:45 pm | #
A hot dish. I'm bringing deviled eggs.
Do you think it would be alright if I bring my stash of broiled xtian baby? I also have some kool aid.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted |
06.16.07 - 12:46 pm | #
joining a cult is silly.
starting one is very profitable.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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06.16.07 - 12:46 pm | #
I didn't say deviled eggs were a hot dish. I said smalfish should bring one. I noted I'm bringing deviled eggs. Don't you fuckers know what periods are?
Advertising Marriott at Eschaton means he's sold out to the Mormons, btw.
Ruth |
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06.16.07 - 12:47 pm | #
"Herman Kahn was a giant. He boldly confronted public issues with creativity and the conviction, in his case correct, that thought and analysis could help make ours a better world."
-Donald Rumsfeld
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Herman Kahn was a bloated toad. He baldly advocated global suicide with the lack of imagination and failed empathy of a full blown sociopath, in the conviction, in his case correct, that his kind of tripe would be well rewarded.
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Fixed Rumsfeld's typos.
rootless2 |
06.16.07 - 12:47 pm | #
RAMALLAH, West Bank (AP) - The U.S. strengthened its offer of support for President Mahmoud Abbas on Saturday, telling him an international aid embargo against the Palestinians would end as soon as he forms a new government without Hamas, aides to Abbas and a Western diplomat said.
The United States and European Union issued statements expressing backing for Abbas in light of the upheaval that has remade the Palestinian territories, but they said no decision had been reached on lifting the embargo.
Crowds of Gaza Strip residents converged on the border crossing with Israel desperate to leave the coastal strip, but they found locked gates. Israel, meanwhile, said it would allow food and other basic supplies into Gaza.
i'm in very punctual male menopause.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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06.16.07 - 12:48 pm | #
thanks to simels for pointing out that there is a new Airplane disc out. a 69 live from the Fillmore East. sounds like something that needs to be picked up.
Tom - 大肚腩 | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 12:41 pm | #
It's REALLY good. They were an uneven live band, but on the right night.....
steve simels |
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06.16.07 - 12:48 pm | #
Do you think it would be alright if I bring my stash of broiled xtian baby?
Well, the last time you brough mormons. And they aren't really Xians. Plus they tasted like grasshoppers.
spinoza |
06.16.07 - 12:48 pm | #
Saw Herman Kahn speak in 1970. Among the things he did was to extrapolate economic development curves and confidently predict that the 21rst century would belong to the Japanese.
ProfWombat |
06.16.07 - 12:48 pm | #
NTodd thinks you need to care about his periods, right?
Ruth |
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06.16.07 - 12:48 pm | #
Ooh -- they blocked the Harriet Miers nomination.
the republicans did that, of course.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
That nomination was what overdrew Shrub's political capital account at the bank of Repubs.
MP |
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06.16.07 - 12:48 pm | #
I didn't say deviled eggs were a hot dish. I said smalfish should bring one. I noted I'm bringing deviled eggs. Don't you fuckers know what periods are?
Dark Master within, I will fight for you
Dark Master of sin, now my soul is yours
Dark Master, my guide, I will die for you
Dark Master inside…
Dark Master, amen, I belong to you
Dark Master within…
smalfish, tinfoil hatted |
06.16.07 - 12:51 pm | #
simels: 'The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers' have aged better than Herman Kahn's reputation among all but the criminally insane...
ProfWombat |
06.16.07 - 12:52 pm | #
I just got me a Pecan Mudslide down at the Tastee Freeze.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
06.16.07 - 12:53 pm | #
Do you think it would be alright if I bring my stash of broiled xtian baby?
Did you marinate it properly?
I'm bringing strawberry shortcake. Because it goes with everything.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.16.07 - 12:53 pm | #
It's REALLY good. They were an uneven live band, but on the right night.....
steve simels |
i think you could say they were just an uneven band. and just poking around legacyrecordings website is interesting.
Tom - 大肚腩 |
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06.16.07 - 12:53 pm | #
But what I should have said was "Ooh, they blocked the Howard Dean nomination."
Do you still believe that impeachment is going to happen? Or that this president will not stay for the remainder of his term?
smalfish, tinfoil hatted |
06.16.07 - 12:53 pm | #
but, NTodd, I almost never attend the Tastee Freeze.
Ruth |
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06.16.07 - 12:53 pm | #
ProfWombat, I think it would be a good day for a small cafe on the sidewalks of Huntington Beach, where we can watch the surfers and volleyball players and laugh at the passing scenery along with a good bottle of red.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.16.07 - 12:54 pm | #
but, NTodd, I almost never attend the Tastee Freeze.
I find that deeply offensive and will start a blog to complain about it.
NTodd, Scign Brahmin |
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06.16.07 - 12:54 pm | #
Grim - The decomposed bodies of 13 members of an Iraqi taekwondo team seized a year ago have been found, officials say.
Fifteen members of the team had been abducted last May in Anbar province, an al-Qaeda stronghold west of Baghdad, on their way to a training camp in Jordan.
The bodies were found in western Iraq, near the town of Ramadi. Two of the team are still missing.
In the past two years many Iraqi sports officials have been seized in sectarian attacks or held for ransom.
sallyh: I'd guess that nigiri sushi and strawberry shortcake, even yours, would not be an ideal pairing, though, if you threw in your company, I'd gladly suffer the discordance...
ProfWombat |
06.16.07 - 12:55 pm | #
sallyh: a suggestion of more than passing amiability, yours...
ProfWombat |
06.16.07 - 12:55 pm | #
You just go ahead, NTodd, and I'm telling.
Ruth |
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06.16.07 - 12:56 pm | #
You just go ahead, NTodd, and I'm telling.
STOP TRYING TO SILENCE ME, YOU BULLY!!!
NTodd, Scign Brahmin |
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06.16.07 - 12:56 pm | #
Can someone explain to me why one would actually want to *be* a satanist?
I guess I'm simple-minded. I suppose that if I were into the worship of deities, I'd probably want to go with the one who promises me eternal life.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
06.16.07 - 12:56 pm | #
Remember when defender's of the Patriot Act, said there wasn't even one incident of abuse, due to this act?
Whoa. white on black is okay, until you come back to black on white.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted |
06.16.07 - 12:57 pm | #
Can someone explain to me why one would actually want to *be* a satanist?
Why not go with the winning team?
NTodd, Scign Brahmin |
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06.16.07 - 12:57 pm | #
I'd probably want to go with the one who promises me eternal life.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 06.16.07 - 12:56 pm | #
not me.
i need the rest.
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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06.16.07 - 12:57 pm | #
Doug, that pains me. I LOVED my chemistry set as a child. It's things like that that get kids excited about science, and boy, are we doing our level best to make sure THAT doesn't happen.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.16.07 - 12:57 pm | #
A friend of mine is actually a Satanist.
NTodd, Scign Brahmin | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 12:53 pm
That site looks like it was made by some D&D nerds gone wild . . .
Private Joker |
06.16.07 - 12:58 pm | #
Do you still believe that impeachment is going to happen? Or that this president will not stay for the remainder of his term?
smalfish, tinfoil hatted | 06.16.07 - 12:53 pm | #
My gut still tells me he won't serve out his term.
On the other hand, my gut also told me he would never become president.
So what the fuck do I know?
steve simels |
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06.16.07 - 12:58 pm | #
Judge Orders FBI to Turn Over Thousands of Patriot Act Abuse Documents http://blog.wired.com/ 27bstroke6..._orders_fb.html
Doug
But Director Mueller already assured Congress that he was going to give those guys a stern talking to, so no problem.
MP |
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06.16.07 - 12:58 pm | #
vicki: that "'Do what thou wilt' shall be the whole of the law" business appeals to some, who haven't thought through its implications, or even what it's really saying...
ProfWombat |
06.16.07 - 12:58 pm | #
One thing about simels, he's got guts.
NTodd, Scign Brahmin |
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06.16.07 - 12:58 pm | #
okay... so why am i reading the brief of Dan and Keith's Friday show and seeing Bud Selig is suggesting GWB be the next commish of MLB. ewwwwww.
Tom - 大肚腩 |
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06.16.07 - 12:58 pm | #
ProfWombat, we could just skip the sushi. Raw fish belong in an aquarium and not on my plate.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.16.07 - 12:59 pm | #
"Bud Selig is suggesting GWB be the next commish of MLB."
That would suck. Personally, I wouldn't let that asshole runn a 7/11.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.16.07 - 12:59 pm | #
I believe it was Mark Twian who said "heaven for the weather, hell for the companionship."
steve simels |
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06.16.07 - 12:59 pm | #
I disagree. The blogs have already made a difference - and a difference in money too. This war never made sense for corporate America, except for the few insiders to Bush procurement. The ideological consensus that allowed Bush to rule is vulnerable to death of 1000 taps.
rootless2
Ah, well. I guess I can only say I hope you are correct. Perhaps I am letting cynicism hold too much sway in my middle age.
Thanks for the conversation, Rootless2.
Now it's time for lunch, something I'm never cynical about.
Y'all take care of your good selves.
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06.16.07 - 1:00 pm | #
Bud Selig is suggesting GWB be the next commish of MLB.
Plus side: he ruins baseball for a generation, thus deflating the salary pool and returning the game to reality and making it affordable for families again.
NTodd, Scign Brahmin |
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06.16.07 - 1:00 pm | #
y... so why am i reading the brief of Dan and Keith's Friday show and seeing Bud Selig is suggesting GWB be the next commish of MLB. ewwwwww.
Tom - 大肚腩 | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 12:58 pm | #
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Final, total world domination for soccer is on hand.
rootless2 |
06.16.07 - 1:00 pm | #
I'd probably want to go with the one who promises me eternal life.
Just what is "eternal life" anyway? And anyone who would promise me it, would need to be seriously examined before buying into his/her scheme.
smalfish, tinfoil hatted |
06.16.07 - 1:00 pm | #
I'll take eternal life just so long as my cell phone can be left behind.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.16.07 - 1:00 pm | #
I wouldn't let that asshole runn a 7/11.
How about a 9/11?
NTodd, Scign Brahmin |
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06.16.07 - 1:00 pm | #
French voters are expected to give President Nicolas Sarkozy a crushing majority in the National Assembly when they go to the polls tomorrow for the fourth time in seven weeks.
After a charmed first month in the presidency, M. Sarkozy has begun to lose control of the political debate for the first time in recent days. However, he remains on target to win something like 70 per cent of all the seats in the lower house of parliament in the second round of the legislative elections.
The Socialist opposition began to land some blows on the President this week, forcing him to admit to long-term plans to increase VAT. The rises - by up to 5 per cent - are intended to create jobs by reducing the "pay-roll" taxes which fund health policy and unemployment benefits. They are, nonetheless, political dynamite at a time when M. Sarkozy is pushing rapidly ahead with plans to cut income, wealth and inheritance taxes for the rich.
Me? I'm recharging after a busy, somewhat-stressful week (due to lack of planning on someone's part), and trying also to finish another project by tomorrow night or Monday, latest.
Still have some shopping to accomplish, today, but the Target made that easier. While I was there, I also got the kittehs a 3.5lb bag of kibble, and SHOCK! They also had the Mary B's biscuits! Target!
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.16.07 - 1:00 pm | #
Uncle Blodge, the person who runs my 7-11 was a lawyer in Bangladesh.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.16.07 - 1:01 pm | #
anyone who would promise me [eternal life], would need to be seriously examined before buying into his/her scheme.
My cult just offers potluck dinners that feel like an eternity.
NTodd, Scign Brahmin |
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06.16.07 - 1:01 pm | #
Just what is "eternal life" anyway?
zaphod: it'll be a whole new life!
marvin: what, another one?
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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06.16.07 - 1:01 pm | #
"How about a 9/11?"
Well, he sure ran with it.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.16.07 - 1:01 pm | #
Like the old expression, "the cut of his jib," perhaps pundits can speak of "presidential" candidates by saying, "I like the smell of his guts."
I LOVED my chemistry set as a child. It's things like that that get kids excited about science.
Sallyh, I worry about part of my tool kit I have. I own the basics of a chem lab, though I only use it for legitimate things. Remember that project I told you about a couple of years ago? It's not dead, just resting since I took an illness break for awhile.
Some physics and chemistry were involved. And you can not do the project without those. Right now?
I'm studying to improve my statistics skills which is the other missing building block.
Doug |
06.16.07 - 1:02 pm | #
The first “Trabi” rolled off the assembly line in this old industrial town in the fall of 1957. To celebrate the car’s 50th anniversary, about 2,000 Trabant owners converged here on Friday on a grassy field next to an airstrip, determined, for a weekend at least, to put the Berlin Wall up again
I had me some good clean fun in quite a few Trabants
"Uncle Blodge, the person who runs my 7-11 was a lawyer in Bangladesh."
Hmmm... How about a Bengali lawyer for President?
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.16.07 - 1:03 pm | #
Uncle Smokes, flatulence does admittedly have a distinctive odor.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.16.07 - 1:03 pm | #
"I like the aroma of his shit."
NTodd, Scign Brahmin |
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06.16.07 - 1:03 pm | #
My cult just offers potluck dinners that feel like an eternity.
NTodd, Scign Brahmin |
Figure 8 jello moulds being misread as infinity symbols again?
Tom - 大肚腩 |
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06.16.07 - 1:03 pm | #
So not long ago a relative began the anti-Mexican rant. I stopped her and said hey, a hundred years ago people were saying the exact same things about us Irish -- dirty, drunken, diseased, criminal, lazy, thieving, breed like rats. The exact same things.
And we were in the exact same situation, working as housemaids and ditch-diggers, cannon fodder and factory hands, last hired, first fired. Dammit, they are us.
strawhat ♥'s Al too |
06.16.07 - 1:04 pm | #
Haloscum has thrown me off three times in a row, just Who is Trying to Silence Whom! And Fluffy says I can't play here until he's finished with me.
Uncle Blodge, he'd do a hell of a lot better than anyone in this regime right now. I'm sure he'd like to do something other than sell me cigarettes and caramel coffees.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.16.07 - 1:04 pm | #
I stopped her and said hey, a hundred years ago people were saying the exact same things about us Irish
Dunbar would love that.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.16.07 - 1:04 pm | #
I'd never let a drunken Mick work as a maid in my house.
NTodd, Scign Brahmin |
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06.16.07 - 1:04 pm | #
"I'd never let a drunken Mick work as a maid in my house."
How bout a drunken Keith or Charlie?
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
06.16.07 - 1:05 pm | #
Inability to meet "grand challenges" of physics likely to hurt US competitiveness
Good column.
As the article points out, many of the major companies have gotten away from "blue sky" research in favor of product-directed research that affects the short term bottom line.
Another of the benefits of running the company for the stock price.
billy b |
06.16.07 - 1:05 pm | #
Uncle Smokes, flatulence does admittedly have a distinctive odor.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
What?! Who?! Oh...my previous comment...
Never mind.
[Talk about the importance of punctuation. One slip of the keyboard, and I'd be a stinker!]
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06.16.07 - 1:05 pm | #
...we were in the exact same situation, working as housemaids and ditch-diggers, cannon fodder and factory hands, last hired, first fired.
NTodd, of course you wouldn't let a drunken Mick work as a maid in your house. He looks terrible in that maid's costume.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.16.07 - 1:07 pm | #
Was watching a Letterman this morning with Dennis Leary going on about this immigration issue and the Irish (his parents being Irish immigrants)... and those damn Canadians coming in to the US and taking Merkin jobs while giving a knowing look to Paul Shaffer.
Tom - 大肚腩 |
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06.16.07 - 1:08 pm | #
Don't forget - the Irish don't speak English, either.
Remind me what language is it that George Bush speaks.
I know it's not English.
Doug |
06.16.07 - 1:08 pm | #
I'd never let a drunken Mick work as a maid in my house.
NTodd, Scign Brahmin | Homepage | 06.16.07 - 1:04 pm
Jeffraham, LE certainly is enjoying his New Balcony.
Now what about some Curly?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.16.07 - 1:09 pm | #
NOW it's afternoon, dammit!
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
Is not... After midnight it's all peach schnapps and creamsicles.
Tom - 大肚腩 |
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06.16.07 - 1:09 pm | #
Remind me what language is it that George Bush speaks.
Dumbfuckian, which is a little known sub-dialect of Fucktardish.
NTodd, Scign Brahmin |
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06.16.07 - 1:09 pm | #
Sallyh: Now what about some Curly?
Not the best photo, but I like the composition.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.16.07 - 1:10 pm | #
Linguists have yet to decode the syntax of Dumbfuckian, though they have a sort of Rosetta Stone that has enabled them to pierce the veil of mystery surrounding much of the semantic foundation. Years of more research are needed.
NTodd, Scign Brahmin |
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06.16.07 - 1:10 pm | #
Jeffraham, I like the photo! And Curly does indeed look suspicious of That Which Is New
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
06.16.07 - 1:11 pm | #
Sallyh: Jeffraham, I like the photo! And Curly does indeed look suspicious of That Which Is New
The floor has 5 old boards and 6 new; he will NOT walk on the new boards. So, he's not even been on the new rail. Come to think of it, neither has L.E.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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