I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Al Gore would, too.
No sports metaphors. I hate sports metaphors.
Go team GORE!
Slam dunk.
-
I, Vicki Who ♥ Al Gore, has shot and scored.
So, you want to be the league commissioner?
ball's in your court ... sport
Mother fucker stole my homerun.
Will my boyfriend get to third base with me next weekend?
heh he heh
You do that and I'll throw you under the bus!
*** OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM (In and Around Afghanistan), includes casualties that occurred
in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Uzbekistan.
**** OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM (Other Locations), includes casualties that occurred in
Guantanamo Bay (Cuba), Djibouti, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Jordan, Kenya, Kyrgyzstan, Philippines, Seychelles,
Sudan, Tajikistan, Turkey, and Yemen.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/...ws/
casualty.pdf
See, the world?
-
I prefer food metaphors.
I can't wait until we all slide in to that great big homeplate in the sky...
Wow...Neil Diamond can be really bad.
TEBB y'all are TXn?
therealhellkitty
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yes, Dallas. luckily i live in a diverse (i.e. not heavily republican" ) neighborhood.
My FDL post goes live in seven minutes. At that moment all other commentary at liberal blogs becomes instantly obsolete.
The use of war metaphors in the sporting world is especially odious.
I for one welcome our new sports addled metaphor.
Wow...Neil Diamond can be really bad.
But then now what is the way to make me happy?
stop moving the goalposts, man.
Don Cazayoux for Youz!!
i'm going to take a break - there's a chocolate, frosted brownie in my fridge and some cold milk just screaming my name.
Gotta go.
Love to you all.
Red State Coattails was a 45 that rocked to the top of the charts in the early eighties.
retro-fueled electoral victories in all the Deep South
But then now what is the way to make me happy?
Google "Yahoo Serious". If he can't make you happy, I don't know what will do it.
Shit, I've got a polyp funnier than you.
Shared Humanity | 05.03.08 - 10:56 pm | #
thank you very little...
stop moving the goalposts, man.
Stop moving my, stop moving my, stop moving my goalposts around.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Can I give a little advice, friend. Take the opportunity. I stayed too long under the gun in my job and it cost me too much. I don't think that one can stay for twenty-five years of it the way I did: the price is too high.
The truth is that the only person who appreciates what you do is you and that is simply not good enough.
Go find yourself a school where the kids all want to go to college and are worried about getting a B rather than an A. When they don't do well on a test, they WANT you to explain how they can do better. If their essays are not up to par, they don't get mad: they ask you to help them.
The parents are not confrontational and the administration is not looking to find fault.
Go and enjoy your job for a while. Our victories are too small and our battles are too long and costly.
(I don't regret it, but I understand it and think you have done well.)
Stop moving my, stop moving my, stop moving my goalposts around.
DON'T MOCK TOM PETTY, MOTHERFUCKER!
I prefer sex metaphors.
McCain has a real hard-on for Iran.
Where the fuck is JeffCO?
It is rude, insulting, and frankly degenerate of JeffCO to be elsewhere when I want to engage in pointless witty pop-cultural banter. I hope he is ashamed of himself.
At least one local station covered the port strike.
http://www.komotv.com/news/18436769.html
Good thing they put it on their website or I'd never believe it.
He's in the Arab Online chatroom.
"Can I give a little advice, friend. Take the opportunity."
thank you muchly.
Interest isn't an offer, but one school that said "we definitely want you" is pretty good.
I'll be in ok shape next year - if i can get a car that is...
I take public transit to work but I need a car for my kids
Where the fuck is JeffCO?
Enjoying a concert in Denver.
DON'T MOCK JEFFCO, MOTHERFUCKER!
yes, Dallas. luckily i live in a diverse (i.e. not heavily republican" ) neighborhood.
TEBB, grumpy female |
05.03.08 - 10:58 pm | #
I'm in Hays, the bluest county in TX, precinct 337 our little and I mean little section of Hays has more delegates to the State D convention than any other. I'm happy to say that I'm one of them.
It is rude, insulting, and frankly degenerate of JeffCO to be elsewhere when I want to engage in pointless witty pop-cultural banter
*pouts*
Enjoying a concert in Denver.
Is he seeing Hansard and Irklova?
I hate the bastard.
Night all. Have a busy day tomorrow.
McCain has a real hard-on for Iran.
Shared Humanity |
05.03.08 - 11:03 pm | #
Viagra hangover
FUCK!
14 year old boy shot two blocks from my house. Ugh.
The Old Man From Scene 24
May I have this seat next to you?
Is he seeing Hansard and Irklova?
yah.
Enjoying a concert in Denver.
DON'T MOCK JEFFCO, MOTHERFUCKER!
watertiger
Yeah, they don't need that arena for hockey games any more this year. 
Viagra hangover
Shrinkage?
Viagra hangover
If it's hangin' it ain't workin'...
Shrinkage?
baba durag |
05.03.08 - 11:07 pm | #
creepage.
*lost down below*
Uncle B, this is the place: Civil War Memory.
Guy works at a private school of apparently vast resources, about as far away on the spectrum from you as can be and both be described as "high school teachers." But I read his site every week for a review column I do on Civil War blogs and can attest he is one of the Good Folk out there.
His Civil War special interest is the US Colored Troops and the Battle of the Crater at Petersburg. The few people who have ever heard of the USCT are mostly those who have seen the movie "Glory" and think that the 54th Mass was the only black unit in the war.
Oh oh. Habs lost. PlumP and Ali are gonna need consolation.
I am craving sweets so badly. a cookie, an ice cream sandwich, even a piece of chocolate would be nice.
creepage.
therealhellkitty
he does have that Nixon meanness about him, doesn't he.
I went out to hear some Shostakovich tonight. How uncool is that?
mcstain will have the "Super Bowl" in Iran next Jan if elected prez.
On the Coming Collapse of the Middle Classes video: I watched it the other night, and I was bothered by lots of statistical mistakes and economic mistakes in her story. The main arguments are valid, but the way the story was told is not good.
For example, she assumes that there were no income effects from bringing a grandparent home to recover from surgery in the 1970's single-earner family, because there was a wife at home. But that wife was there taking care of the children (remember the childcare expenses that were used earlier in the 2003 and 1970 comparisons?) So the sick grandparent , if really sick, would require that the stay-at-home mother hires child care.
In general, all work has a cost in the sense of the value of the next best lost alternative.
A second problem was that Warren picked what she called a modal family in 1970 (not sure if it was modal, even then) and then compared it to the same type family in 2003 when it is certainly not the modal family. The modal house in 1970 may or may have been the kind of house the modal family of 1970 lived in, but this is probably not true in 2003. So there are some apples and oranges in that part.
Then about the savings rate in 1970 and in 2003: She argued that the 1970 family saved 11% and the 2003 family had negative savings. But were 401ks around in 1970, for instance? And more importantly, that negative savings rate for 2003 is not specifically for the kind of family type she describes.
creepage.
therealhellkitty
he does have that Nixon meanness about him, doesn't he.
baba durag |
05.03.08 - 11:10 pm | #
he reminds me of an angry hampster
I thought the Great Orange Satan was the benevolent dictator.
When did he get overthrown? And why wasn't I invited?
DON'T MOCK TOM PETTY, MOTHERFUCKER!
watertiger
What she said.
"How uncool is that?"
so uncool it's cool.
million young poets
screamin' out their words
to a world full of people
just livin' to be heard
future generations
ridin' on the highways that we built
i hope they have a better understanding
check it out
I went out to hear some Shostakovich tonight. How uncool is that?
Gromit
I don't know what you heard but there's nothing cooler than his Preludes and Fugues.
"DON'T MOCK TOM PETTY, MOTHERFUCKER!"
it's so - Petty...
I went out to hear some Shostakovich tonight. How uncool is that?
DON'T MOCK SHOSTA...
oh, feh. I don't have the energy.
DWD, you are a GREAT teacher to recognize that. I say that only as a parent, because I have those kids.
They so want to do well, and only need the right guidance from the teacher. They often encounter assaholas who are playing ego-mind games to fuck with the kids, sadistically, or the other kinds of teachers. some of those respond to suck-up, and that's a lesson I remember all too well. Kids learn that lesson readily and it stays with them. I'd much rather my kid earn a B and want to earn an A than to get an A by feeding the ego-beastof a vain teacher.
I found tonight that I cannot buy an emerald eternity band from the local jeweler's. Only from their website. This means that I can't see how it looks on my hand and I don't want to buy my mother a band I have not seen worn.
You want cool. Cool as all get-up.
Stay off Orange Satan's lawn!
.
I got yer sports metaphor:
Home Run: Canseco Lets House Go Into Foreclosure
And now, please stand for our national anthem:
I Ain't Got No Home
PUT YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART GODDAM IT!!!
.
i hate short term stomach flus. /barfs, goes to bed/ gnite.
I don't know what you heard but there's nothing cooler than his Preludes and Fugues.
5th symphony. Vermont symphony has improved amazingly since Jamie Laredo has been music director.
Echidne,
when I hear about savings rates on the radio, for instance, or read about it in the papers, are 401K's not included when counting savings? That doesn't make any sense to me.
Then about the savings rate in 1970 and in 2003: She argued that the 1970 family saved 11% and the 2003 family had negative savings. But were 401ks around in 1970, for instance? And more importantly, that negative savings rate for 2003 is not specifically for the kind of family type she describes.
Echidne
I watched that and had the same question. Women working outside of the home was pretty prevalent in 1970. It was as if she were being willfully blind to that particular fact.
There were other problems as well: there are reasons other than economic necessity for women to work. (As you well know. 
)
Third problem was that while tax rates and the cost of owning multiple automobiles has escalated, people owned multiple cars in 1970 as well. And when two people in a family were working, they paid a higher rate of taxes as well.
Still, her lecture was interesting and informative. It is like everything else, if you accept it for what it is: it is good. But as with all information, it must be placed into context.
I am craving sweets so badly. a cookie, an ice cream sandwich, even a piece of chocolate would be nice.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
Not to be mean or anything, but I have homemade lemon ice cream in mah freezer. Made from lemons from mah own lemon tree.
I had no idea:
According to several estimates, there are 1.5 career-ending breakdowns for every 1,000 [horse] racing starts in the United States. That's an average of two per day.
That's chilling.
Echidne, I agree the presentation wasn't perfect. She wanted to compare apples to apples so chose a 2 parent, 2 kid family for the comparison. That was more common in 1970, but may not have been typical.
No, 401(k)s did not exist until the early to mid eighties, IIRC.
The big picture is that American families are more economically insecure than before. We're falling behind and getting deeper in debt.
when I hear about savings rates on the radio, for instance, or read about it in the papers, are 401K's not included when counting savings? That doesn't make any sense to me.
They are. But were they around in 1970? And did the data she used include them?
I should read her book to find out.
"I'd much rather my kid earn a B and want to earn an A than to get an A by feeding the ego-beast of a vain teacher."
I feel like i should respond...
but I don't know what to say
But were 401ks around in 1970, for instance? And more importantly, that negative savings rate for 2003 is not specifically for the kind of family type she describes.
Echidne
No. There was no need for them. Most workers were covered by company pensions. So the 11% would have been on top of a pension. The 401(k) is the pension.
Did she get into that?
helena handbasket
Thanks (blushing madly)
401k's not around in 1970.
IRA's started sometime after that too.
okay, i'm back with two recommendations:
1 - cheap table wine - its called "Oops." I keed you not. Had dinner at a neighbor's house tonight and she said she bought it at Target. It wasn't anything to write home about but was absolutely drinkable.
2 - Young at Heart. Great movie about a choir whose members average 80 years old. They sing rock and roll! Talking Heads, Sonic Youth, The Clash. The film is a documentary about this choir and the group has travelled Europe singing. The movie opens with them singing "Do I Stay or Do I Go." I laughed and cried during this film.
coke to flory
More ironic coolness...
Flint pride, bay-bay!
So people who have negative savings now are spending more than they are putting into their 401Ks, pensions, any other stocks and bonds (savings bonds), and what? Is home equity counted in savings rates too?
Tigre:
did you say you sent me an email? Cause I ain't got one.....
coke to flory
baba durag
'enkew.
Aagh! Seventies flashback, Zap.
No, 401(k)s did not exist until the early to mid eighties, IIRC.
The big picture is that American families are more economically insecure than before. We're falling behind and getting deeper in debt.
Yes, on the increasing insecurity. But a middle class family may well have at least 401(k) and that means that their savings rate is unlikely to be negative. Also, until quite recently, people saved into their house.
I also had difficulties with the bars where she shows that 50% of expenses in 1970 were hard to change and that now that is 75%. But that remaining 25% of expenses that can be changed is actually more money because the family earns more. Her argument about the "extra worker" at home (the one that can be sent off to work so that the mortgage can be paid) assumes simultaneously that she would have earned enough and that the children she was minding now miraculously needed nobody to care for them.
There's a picture of Cazayoux at TPM. He's cute.
flory,
I sent you an email.
Tigre:
did you say you sent me an email? Cause I ain't got one.....
grrrr. will resend.
Aaack...this song just came on.
per Wikipedia:
"In 1978, Congress amended the Internal Revenue Code, later called section 401(k), whereby employees are not taxed on income they choose to receive as deferred compensation rather than direct compensation.[2] The law went into effect on January 1, 1980."
So the 11% would have been on top of a pension.
It wasn't clear how that was defined. I have to read the book.
for reasons of my own I need to take off.
later
Someone put Al Hofman's magic dust in my brain. The '70s are back, and they haven't improved.
where on the Arab Street, I wonder, would one find the Arab Lounge?
So people who have negative savings now are spending more than they are
putting into their 401Ks, pensions, any other stocks and bonds (savings
bonds), and what? Is home equity counted in savings rates too?
Tlazolteotl |
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05.03.08 - 11:21 pm | #
We are barely squeeking by. I finally made the decision to contribute to the company 401(k) even though it ate up the whole of the raise I got. The company matches the first
3% at 100% and the next 3% at 50%. For a small company I thought it was pretty good. But with the price of gas & food going up its really hard not to drop out so we have a little more usable income.
from belowThank God for insurance. Cannot afford a break in coverage now.
Shared Humanity
And there is what is most fucked up about our current system. You're now stuck in your job and/or marriage -- depending on how you obtain your insurance -- forever.
Having been diagnosed with the Big C, you'd never be able to get individual coverage.
flory
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Thank you flory for your excellent summary of something that I've been thinking for years!
Universal health care would unleash a nation of entrepreneurs. I 'm very VERY fortunate to have coverage and get to do some stuff I like but I know that millions are trapped in things that they loath because of that.
Why doesn't' anyone want to push that angle? Because they think it would be CHAOS! And it world to the establishment in the right wing. They can only imagine a world like that. They can only think of the poor and the immigrants sucking up their health care. The don't want to think that Bob down in production really wants to be by the artist, or Bob the social worker or Bob the inventor of great new products. Because THEY are rich or enjoy their job or they are resentful. "I hate my job and I keep doing it, why should THEY do something they like!? If you hate what you do they pay you. If you like what you do you pay them. And health care is a privilidage for those who go to work everyday hating their life because that is how the world works(unless you are rich and you earned that the good old fashion way by being a robber baron and or ripping off the government.)
Imagine people quiting jobs! Good companies would have to compete with others for workers again because millions would leave to start their own businesses.
Businesses would not disappear, lots of people still want a "job job" but lots of people would say FU to crappy jobs the are trapped in for the "benefits."
flory, more than most of us here, understands this, so I totally love that she has said that. Thank you flory.
Res -- got it.
Tigre -- got it.
And got it again.
I was a debater in high school and college. In debate you attempt to create the case that establishes, if not refuted, a winning argument. I believe (been a while) this is called that prima facia case.
When information is presented by someone like Dr Warren it should present a Prima Facia case in the sense that if no other information to the contrary is presented, her information should be enough to prove the question.
I think she did this in her lecture. But if you include other information, then you could have a debate about what she is saying. But there is little doubt that her presentation has a great deal of value and is without a doubt interesting and informative.
If anyone is curious, this is a link to the lecture. It is about an hour long so if you do not have time tonight and are still interested, you might want to bookmark it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a...h?
v=akVL7QY0S8A
When I am benevolent (hah!) dictator, all sports metaphors will be banned, and we'll be using Star Trek/Star Wars/BSG metaphors.
When I am your benevolent dictator, I will outlaw the use of any and all sports metaphors in our political discourse.
Well that's good because I'm in the mood to take someone deep all over the ball yard.
Thers
I would love to engage in pop culture references but I have to watch Narnia
Jesus Is the Lion!
Check this out.
http://www.adultswim.com/video/?
...116b1a659d90150
universal health coverage might also force companies to treat their employees better. just imagine how many people would change jobs due to hateful and/or incompetent managers if not for the insurance issue?
s p o c k o
i've been saying it too. damn it would be great!
Think of how creative and productive people would be if they didn't feel stuck at their job due to health insurance?
ErinPDX, way too harsh | 09.24.07 - 2:16 pm | #
You want cool. Cool as all get-up.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas
Zap, thank you muchly for that lovely Dolly song. I hate country music with a passion....but I happened to have met Ms. Parton, so long ago that she was still the warmup act for Porter Waggoner.
He "took ill" that night in Danville Illinois, and she did the whole show at what was then the largest venue in town, the high school theater. Had them in the palm of her hand the whole night and I heard not one murmer of regret that anybody felt cheated out of the "big name."
She didn't pose for pictures well but in candid shots was a knockout. And her tits weren't all that noticeably huge either.
And got it again.
DWD, I think her case would have been stronger had she used some economists to help her interpret the data.
Today's modal family is a single person living alone, for example.
The company matches the first 3% at 100% and the next 3% at 50%. For a small company I thought it was pretty good.It is. My suggestion, if you need to lower your contribution amount, don't go below that 3% with a 100% match. You're doubling your money. JMHO.
many of us could double or triple our income if we weren't slaves to the health insurance game
Universal health care would unleash a nation of entrepreneurs.
This alone is enough to terrorize the corporate assholes who are in charge.
If they have to actually compete, they know they'd lose their positions and status.
And their power.
Which terrifies them more than anything else.
Think of it as a 4.5% raise (tax free!). Stay in if at all possible.
Well that's good because I'm in the mood to take someone deep all over the ball yard.
Gomez
May I do the play by play?
I always thought the reason we do not have universal health care is b/c it would give at-will employees way too much power.
therealhellkitty | 05.03.08 - 11:24 pm | #
Right now I am putting in as much as I can, but in about 18 months or so I plan to buy a house, so I will probably need to cut back on contributions quite a bit, at least for the first few years until we get things settled (I won't be moving with a lot of furnishings, a lot of stuff will have to be purchased then). But yeah, it does seem like a good deal, ours is similar to yours with the matching bit.
With my son's new job with the state they don't have a pension per se but they give him 4% of his salary in a 401K and will match up to 3% more. So if he puts 3% of his salary away he will have 10% saved. That is pretty decent I think. He should have a bunch of money in thirty years I think.
Evening, all.
Well, here in the Paris of the Tri-State Metropolitan Area, the weather is cold (getting down to the 40s) and drizzly. This is decidedly odd for early May.
I'm sorry that's not particularly interesting either, but that's all I've got this sec.
De nada, Xan. I frickin' love that song.
I presume that dear ol' Porter "took ill" by means of the bottle?
.It is. My suggestion, if you need to lower your contribution
amount, don't go below that 3% with a 100% match. You're doubling your
money. JMHO.
TheOtherWA |
05.03.08 - 11:29 pm | #
good advice thanks!
Thank you!
I've always wanted to penalize anyone who used a sports metaphor in my classes. Fortunately, this year the business school began offering their watered down version of baby stats, so I don't get these assclowns anymore. I do get the occasional baseball-stats-obsessed student who plays in fantasy leagues, but they have a peculiar charm of their own.
I found out I'm not going to get any Social Security from the Finnish government, even though I paid some in. Unless I go there and work for two more years.
Universal health care would unleash BRAIN EATING ZOMBIES!
-GOPers
It wasn't clear how that was defined. I have to read the book.
Echidne
There will be a test.
Spocko:
I live in fear that I'll be diagnosed with something chronic or serious. Bye-bye insurance.
I just need to make it to Medicare.
Which is getting closer and closer....
Well, here in the Paris of the Tri-State Metropolitan Area, the weather is cold (getting down to the 40s) and drizzly. This is decidedly odd for early May.
It was 75 degrees in Moscow two weeks ago. That was pretty fucking freaky.
So sayeth the Russian lady who cuts my hair.
fyi: wikipedia has a section in its Reverend Wright article regarding the recent controversy.
I've received some heated emails from friends who are upset with him but its not clear to me exactly what he said that was so horrible. I've seen some of his speeches and nothing really struck me as hateful.
Oh -- res and tigre have mail
well, i still think metaphor of a certain somebody-wanna-be-QB kneecaping her own offensive line is apt.
I'm sorry that's not particularly interesting either, but that's all I've got this sec.
steve hussein simels |
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05.03.08 - 11:31 pm | #
It has been strangely cool here in central TX too. Mornings in the 50's are really odd for us as are May "cold" fronts.
Universal health care would unleash BRAIN EATING ZOMBIES!
-GOPers
Actually, what they told me is that we are whining babies who want someone else to take care of us from cradle to grave, whereas they work hard and are rich for that reason and will never support us through our commie plans for making everyone live in factories.
May I do the play by play?
ErinPDX
If I work on my ball skills I can be an impact player.
Universal health care would unleash BRAIN EATING ZOMBIES!
I am unequivocally pro brain eating zombies.
So sayeth the Russian lady who cuts my hair.
In old Soviet Union, hair cuts you!
SNL a repeat again? Do they ever make new ones?
therealhellkitty - it will drop to the upper 40's in the Dallas area. i am thrilled - i hate our brutal summers and the longer the nice weather lasts the better for my electric bill.
well, i still think metaphor of a certain somebody-wanna-be-QB kneecaping her own offensive line is apt.
ErinPDX
I think you need to put a man on her or she'll hurt you deep.
I am unequivocally pro brain eating zombies.
Depends on whose brain, donnit?
I think her case would have been stronger had she used some economists to help her interpret the data.
Today's modal family is a single person living alone, for example.
Echidne
I agree. But I will say this: at least she IS talking about this as the news media and everyone else is pretty much ignoring the problem.
A few moments ago I went upstairs to get my night cup of lousy chicken soup I drink (creature of habit) and my wife had NBC on. They had an hour long investigative report on from NBC News. The subject? Some deranged guy from New England who enticed young ladies into his dungeon and kept them there for months chained up.
I am sorry. This man is a sick fuck but is he any sicker than the nation that ignores: a war predicated on lies that has displaced FIVE MILLION people and killed more than 100,000? A banking system that is being bailed out by ordinary tax payers who are getting NOTHING for their money? A president who has broken the laws of the United States and admitted it?
And on and on.
If I work on my ball skills I can be an impact player.
Gomez
"Gomez penetrates the line, sails through the hole."
I'm going to get a ripping $325.00 a month from social insecurity.
This is my reward for staying home and raising two children and helping my (ex)husband run a business.
Gomez penetrates the line, sails through the hole."
ErinPDX
I'm better up the middle than around the end.
Puppethead, I thought last week they said this week would be a new SNL. It's May, isn't this sweeps month? There aren't supposed to be any reruns now. That's what I thought, anyway.
I am sorry. This man is a sick fuck but is he any sicker than the nation that ignores: a war predicated on lies that has displaced FIVE MILLION people and killed more than 100,000? A banking system that is being bailed out by ordinary tax payers who are getting NOTHING for their money? A president who has broken the laws of the United States and admitted it?
The local news here are all about fires and murders and an electric line falling on a road. Some of that is necessary, but there is nothing else at all.
Some deranged guy from New England who enticed young ladies into his dungeon and kept them there for months chained up.
I deny everything. They're here to clean the furnace.
I'm sorry that's not particularly interesting either, but that's all I've got this sec.
steve hussein simels
But your glorious presence is all we require.
I suppose most shows are lagging because of the writers strike.
Hasn't Kevin Phillips been writing about the collapse of the middle class for quite some time? I read American Theocracy, he predicted the inevitable burst of the housing bubble a yer or two before it happened.
Gromit, I'd say zombies that only eat Republican brains, but they'd have to eat a lot of them to find any nutritional value, let alone a full stomach.
In old Soviet Union, hair cuts you!
therealhellkitty - it will drop to the upper 40's in the Dallas area. i
am thrilled - i hate our brutal summers and the longer the nice weather
lasts the better for my electric bill.
TEBB, grumpy female |
05.03.08 - 11:35 pm | #
Wimberley has been really beautiful this spring. The oaks are really GREEN. I had all the windows open and could smell the mountain breezes it smelled like Colorado here this morning.
'm going to get a ripping $325.00 a month from social insecurity.
This is my reward for staying home and raising two children and helping my (ex)husband run a business.
That's part of the problem and one of the main reasons why women are more likely to be poor in old age.
I suppose most shows are lagging because of the writers strike.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas
Not SNL, they write new every week. When they're working. And this is a repeat again tonight, Jonah Hill is guest. They opened with a Spitzer bit.
therealhellkitty - it will drop to the upper 40's in the Dallas area. i am thrilled - i hate our brutal summers and the longer the nice weather lasts the better for my electric bill.
TEBB, grumpy female
This makes me most happy, as I am on my way back to Dallas on Tuesday.
Hasn't Kevin Phillips been writing about the collapse of the middle class for quite some time?
He started writing about it at least 15 years ago. It's funny, though, that what prompted him to write this stuff was fear of a populist backlash. He didn't want income inequality to reach the point where the middle class would get too angry about it.
We're way past that point now.
Gromit, I'd say zombies that only eat Republican brains, but they'd have to eat a lot of them to find any nutritional value, let alone a full stomach.
We have an old Fannie Farmer cookbook with a recipe for brains in brown butter. Can't say that we've tried it, though.
That's part of the problem and one of the main reasons why women are more likely to be poor in old age.
Echidne |
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05.03.08 - 11:39 pm | #
I'm 47. Even if I work for the next 20 years I won't make enough to live comfortably in retirement. If we manage to hang on to our house.
This is all you need to know about the housing bubble.
I'm 47. Even if I work for the next 20 years I won't make enough to live comfortably in retirement. If we manage to hang on to our house.
I hear you, sister. Seeing a financial adviser might be worth it, even when it costs. They can give you some ideas.
Not SNL, they write new every week. When they're working. And this is a repeat again tonight, Jonah Hill is guest. They opened with a Spitzer bit.
Then Lorne Michaels is lazy, I guess.
This is all you need to know about the housing bubble.
baba durag |
05.03.08 - 11:42 pm | #
wonder what chaos theory would say about that chart?
We're way past that point now.
res ipsa loquitur
You'd think so.
But I don't see the kind of outpouring of anger that will guarantee something is done about it.
People seem more resigned to being fucked over than angry about it.
They save their anger for god, guns and gays.
I'll be utterly astonished if there is effective re-regulation of the finance industry such that we don't see another credit bubble again in our lifetimes.
'm going to get a ripping $325.00 a month from social insecurity.
This is my reward for staying home and raising two children and helping my (ex)husband run a business.
That's part of the problem and one of the main reasons why women are more likely to be poor in old age.
Echidne
Mrs DWD worries about this a lot (because of my condition and stuff) I have assured her that she will continue to receive my teacher's pension as long as she is alive. That is a good thing. I think she gets survivor's benefits from SS as well. So she should be ok. I hope so.
I think that we're in the fourth quarter of the housing bubble.
The man who was voted the greatest Canadian of all time..
Tommy Douglas
http://www.cbc.ca/greatest/top_t...glas-
tommy.html
My friends, watch out for the little fellow with an idea." - Tommy Douglas 1961.
For more than 50 years, his staunch devotion to social causes, rousing powers of speech and pugnacious charm made Tommy C. Douglas an unstoppable political force. From his first foray into public office politics in 1934 to his post-retirement years in the 1970s, Canada's 'father of Medicare' stayed true to his socialist beliefs -- often at the cost of his own political fortune -- and earned himself the respect of millions of Canadians in the process.
The child of Scottish immigrants, Douglas spent his formative years in Winnipeg, Manitoba in a home where politics, philosophy and religion were side dishes at the dinner table. His father, a veteran of two wars, worked part-time in an iron foundry. When money was tight, Douglas and his two sisters had to drop in and out of school as they worked occasional jobs to help pay the bills.
His family's socialist leanings were solidified after Douglas was hospitalized at the age of 10. Due to a bone infection suffered four years earlier, Douglas's knee required several operations - none of which were successful.
Without the money to pay for a specialist, his parents were told that the only option was to amputate their son's leg before the infection spread to the rest of his body. But before that could happen, a visiting surgeon offered to operate on Douglas for free, as long as his students were allowed to attend. The surgery saved Douglas's leg - quite possibly his life - and would serve as his inspiration for his dream of universally accessible medical care.
Chaos theory: that's one strange attractor near the top of the page.
in the UK, voters en masse screwed left-Labour where poofter left-Labour likes it--and now left-Labour is relegated to selling high-tax/nanny-state blow-jobs on the East End...
couldn't happen to a poofter bunch!
I think that if we stick to the gound game, pick up some first downs, hold on to the ball, we can grow the economy by halftime.
I hear you, sister. Seeing a financial adviser might be worth it, even when it costs. They can give you some ideas.
Echidne |
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05.03.08 - 11:43 pm | #
that's not a bad idea...I wonder what they can do with $20 per week? I gave up smoking as it got too expensive. If I give up eating I may be able to live when I'm 76
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"I'm 47. Even if I work for the next 20 years I won't make enough to live comfortably in retirement. If we manage to hang on to our house.
therealhellkitty | 05.03.08 - 11:41 pm | # "
See you in McDonalds.
And, yes, I would like fries with that.
Retirement. What a concept! In Russia, we retire old people in peroshkis. Delicious!
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I have been wondering all day why they have not done a survey asking how many people are in favor of impeaching Bush and CHeney.
I really and truly am curious about those numbers. I really don't know what they would say.
flory - bring your umbrella and a raincoat as we may get storms this week in dallas.
I think that if we stick to the ground game, pick up some first downs, hold on to the ball, we can grow the economy by halftime.
No pepper games.
I think that we're in the fourth quarter of the housing bubble.
Gomez
Dunno about where you are, but in CA we haven't even hit halftime yet.
The big ugly out here will be when the Option ARMS start recasting in 2009 and 2010.
We've just got to suit up, and act like we came to play. With a little luck, and the good lord willing, we can pull this economy out, Marv.
I think we need to think if the American economy as a big team.
Not everyone will get to play.
But if we keep at it we'll all start scoring touchdowns soon.
my hope for retirement is that brick and mortar bookstores still exist then and i can get a job in one.
flory,
I think we will see some regulation. Mostly because there's a core group of Wall STreeters who want to g on quietly making lots of dough (as opposed to the big group of assholes who want to make lots and lots and LOTS of dough -- and do it in a very loudy and spectacular way that draws too much attention by the public).
flory - bring your umbrella and a raincoat as we may get storms this week in dallas.
TEBB, grumpy female
I always keep an umbrella in mah backpack.
But goddammit -- if there's thunderstorms that fuck up mah flight home again I'll have to get very very angry.
Chaos theory: that's one strange attractor near the top of the page.
baba durag |
05.03.08 - 11:44 pm | #
I have always attracted the strange. Maybe I should change my nym to chaoskitty?
that's not a bad idea...I wonder what they can do with $20 per week? I gave up smoking as it got too expensive. If I give up eating I may be able to live when I'm 76
I have thought about cooperative living arrangements for some time. What if lots of old people pooled their money, to take advantage of economies to scale? Bought a large house and turned it into efficiency apartments?
I think we ned to play em one game at a time.
We just lucky to be here.
Hey, you crazy kids.
Simels! Left a comment on your Box Office entry and I think it got erased. Do I need to register?
Anyway, congrats on the new gig!
A rising score floats all boats, Marv. We just gotta hit our holes and keep our eye on the ball.
news flash:
Blue Bell Chocolate-covered Strawberries Ice Cream is surprisingly good.
in other news, Milky Ways may, in fact, rule all other chocolate-covered carmel confections.
You make your own breaks in this business, Brent.
The two metaphor groups which are used most in politics are sport and war metaphors. I recommend cooking metaphors: Stick a fork in Cheney. He's done.
Simels! Left a comment on your Box Office entry and I think it got erased. Do I need to register?
Anyway, congrats on the new gig!
geor3ge | 05.03.08 - 11:49 pm | #
Dude, thanks.
They're having a few tech issues which they should have resolved pretty soon -- you certainly don't need to register.
No matter how hard you try sometimes it just doesn't go in.
mrs. i. al-j,
How's the kid doing? Is he getting any relief?
Res:
I hope you're right. But it seems that there's a lot more of the asshole variety on Wall Street than the respectable financier anymore.
And the assholes have got a lot of fucking money.
Not to mention Chuck Shumer. And probably Hillary.
flory - monday through thursday chances of rain per www.ktvt:
mon 40%
tues 30%
wed 30%
thur 50%
it is that time of year when we get bad storms. several years ago a storm in may took down one of my backyard trees. it fell across the power line from the alley to the house, which slowed it down so that it didn't damage the house, other than the metal pole to which the power line ran. that sucker bent like a TWIG.
The dark chocolate Milky Ways are good. I think they used to be called "Forever Yours" back in the day.
I haven't set foot in a Mickey D's in close to 35 years.
Whattaburger on the other hand is a newly discovered surprise.
Dallas has had some pretty shitty weather lately. I'm glad it has been cool for you though TEBB, the big D can be horrible in the summer.
There are no fouls in sportsmanship, Marv. And there are no I's in team. It's like the good book says, keep the faith and you'll be rewarded.
relegated to selling high-tax/nanny-state blow-jobs on the East End...
janet still not putting out until you actually close a sale?
good luck with that, Brian.
Bought a large house and turned it into efficiency apartments?
Echidne
mom and her friends used to talk about this during the '70's and it has stayed with me. why not live with your friends when you get old?
Milky Ways may, in fact, rule all other chocolate-covered carmel confections.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
[snickers]
Well, I was yakking away with Spocko downstairs... about 180 comments ago...
As long as you keep your head up and your feet moving good things will happen.
Whattaburger on the other hand is a newly discovered surprise.
One of the few things I miss about Oklahoma. It was perfect after-bar food.
Not to mention Chuck Shumer.
[narrows eyes]
No matter how hard you try sometimes it just doesn't go in.
Sports metaphor or sex metaphor? You be the judge!
"Whataburger"?
Do they have the Whatchamachicken sandwich?
The mental aspect of the game just cannot be ignored.
What if lots of old people pooled their money, to take advantage of economies to scale? Bought a large house and turned it into efficiency apartments?
Echidne
And hired a part time nurse to take care of the medications and suchlike?
Where do I sign up? Can I pre-register?
flory,
It's like organized crime. The cops look the other way (because they get some bennies), until some Sonny Corleone-type hothead makes a big stink in public. Then the cops have to do something to get everyone back in line.
When the dem president and even bigger majority dem house and senate are seated in January, they'll pass a few regs to get everyone in line. Nothing serious, just some stuff to flush the most egregious offenders out of the system.
Then everyone will go back to making obscene amounts of cash ... just a bit more quietly.
...it looks like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are coming out of Turn 4 fender to fender...
Somehow that sounds wrong...
I have thought about cooperative living arrangements for some time.
What if lots of old people pooled their money, to take advantage of
economies to scale? Bought a large house and turned it into efficiency
apartments?
Echidne |
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05.03.08 - 11:48 pm | #
I could really go for that type of arrangement especially if there were a permaculture garden and the ability to raise chickens etc.
We have some very interesting communal living communities in this area that deserve more investigation.
res
way better. he was cxrawling like a commando tonight.
the drugs are really helping, and the steam showers, and he is getting caught up on his sleep and his eating.
like a ton of bricks has been removed from my shoulders. thanks for asking.
High gas prices are what happens when you go to the well once too often.
There's just no feeling like it, Marv. When that ball goes in that hole it smells like victory.
I have thought about cooperative living arrangements for some time. What if lots of old people pooled their money, to take advantage of economies to scale? Bought a large house and turned it into efficiency apartments?
Echidne
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i've thought about a house where each resident has a 2-room suite with kitchenette, and there's a central kitchen, dining room and living space that is shared. wrap around porches with ceiling fans on them to keep the mosquitos off.
Not to mention Chuck Shumer.
[narrows eyes]
watertiger
Friend of yours?
There's a lot to like about Chuck. But he's got a lot of friends on Wall Street and I don't see him leading a charge for change.
Killing the other player is something that may haunt you later in the game.
like a ton of bricks has been removed from my shoulders. thanks for asking.
Glad to hear it Mrs I. Hope he continues to get better.
Whattaburger is awesome. discovered them while I was working in Georgia, and now there is one in town.
like an East Coast version (though not as good) of In-N-Out
evening bats
how about getting with the program? Why don't you all jump on the team and come on in for the big win?
realkitty
That graph is also like a fractal. No matter how far in or out you look, we're still fucked.
I haven't been able to watch horse racing since Barbaro's breakdown. After hearing about poor Eight Belles today, I went over to YouTube and watched Secretariat win the Triple Crown all over again. Those were some exciting races.
Maybe I'll do Seattle Slew next.
They really need to introduce more bloodlines into the sport, and get Native Dancer's contribution down a bit, so the horses don't break down so much.
They really need to introduce more bloodlines into the sport,
I feel this way about the American presidency.
i've thought about a house where each resident has a 2-room suite with
kitchenette, and there's a central kitchen, dining room and living
space that is shared. wrap around porches with ceiling fans on them to
keep the mosquitos off.
TEBB, grumpy female |
05.03.08 - 11:55 pm | #
I really think that you are going to see a lot more of these kinds of arrangements as our generation retires. Those of us who can't quite make it all alone in retirement are going to have to come up with other solutions.
There's a lot to like about Chuck.
name one good thing about that cocksucker?
I'm gonna go out on a limb here, Marv, and say that these guys look like they came here to win.
"The Dog and the Butterfly" is a pretty shitty song.
And hired a part time nurse to take care of the medications and suchlike?
Where do I sign up? Can I pre-register?
That would be the plan. They have something like that in London, though it's based on the participants having quite a lot of money. But I think it would be doable with less money, especially if the people are selected based on their skills and not just money.
There's a lot to like about Chuck
Name it.
They really need to introduce more bloodlines into the sport,
I feel this way about the American presidency.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 05.03.08 - 11:58 pm | #
I think they need more bloodletting.
You know, I never heard crickets outside this apartment until this year. Now it sounds like the suburbs out there. Crickets as soon as the sun goes down...mourning doves at dusk and dawn.
flory,
i hate Chuck Schumer.
What if lots of old people pooled their money, to take advantage of economies to scale? Bought a large house and turned it into efficiency apartments?
Hey, I've been talking about this for at least a year. Buy a building, each investor gets a floor. That way, you have a community looking out for one another, but privacy as well.
There's a lot to like about Chuck.
name one good thing about that cocksucker?
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
He's a stay at home Congressman and he can go to his right well.
They really need to introduce more bloodlines into the sport...
You may be onto something. Whenever these big races come up, I can be certain to find more than a few horses with "Storm Cat" in their lineage.
mom and her friends used to talk about this during the '70's and it has stayed with me. why not live with your friends when you get old?
ErinPDX
And let a couple of the units to (1) students at a local college who are majoring in eldercare related specialties and (2) a parent or couple who can handle maintenance work, gardening assistance, whose children can be the adoptive grandkids of everybody else, ....etc. If it weren't such a hippie word we could call it a commune.
At a small gathering of 28 percenters somewhere in Oklahoma, Crazy Dick Cheney said the world is a more hopeful place because of George W. Bush.
Immediately after the remarks, he was gently led away from the podium and carefully wrapped into a freshly laundered and neatly pressed straightjacket.
Senator, I meant senator.
I feel this way about the American presidency.
Too true, sadly.
I think they need more bloodletting.
geor3ge
LEEEEEECCCHHHEEESSS!
There's this R-H commenter that proposes marriage to me on a regular basis. I'm thinking about accepting.
I think they need more bloodletting.
geor3ge
bring back dueling. they can self-cull.
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"Bought a large house and turned it into efficiency apartments?
Echidne
mom and her friends used to talk about this during the '70's and it has stayed with me. why not live with your friends when you get old?
ErinPDX | 05.03.08 - 11:52 pm | # "
I'd like to option that as a sitcom: "Back To The Commune." There'd be a retired mad bomber with no hands, a feminist who changed her mind too late, a pothead who thinks it's still 1969, and a broke broker who steals everybody else's food -a Republican, of course. And the kids, who've all lost their homes. And the grandkids, crippled in the wars. God this sounds funny! I can't WAIT for the future!
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I think it would be doable with less money, especially if the people are selected based on their skills and not just money.
You'll need a cartoonist, right?
That graph is also like a fractal. No matter how far in or out you look, we're still fucked.
baba durag |
05.03.08 - 11:57 pm | #
when it flatlines then we're really fucked. no more period doubling at 4.66920 just a crash just like the lemmings.
I really think that you are going to see a lot more of these kinds of arrangements as our generation retires. Those of us who can't quite make it all alone in retirement are going to have to come up with other solutions.
therealhellkitty
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i think it would be more emotionally healthy, as well as more economical, to have a setup like that. it might start as a setup for those of us who can't afford to live alone and become popular. i especially like the suggestion of a shared nurse to handle meds, take blood pressure, etc.
we'd need it to be in a city with good public transportation so we'd have freedom to go out independently.
Then everyone will go back to making obscene amounts of cash ... just a bit more quietly.
res ipsa loquitur
Which is the basic problem that I don't see getting solved.
The only way to make obscene amounts of money in finance is to take on obscene amounts of leverage and/or risk.
And its risky leverage that got us into this mess. Unless that risk and the degree of leverage are effectively regulated, we'll get right back here again.
Because the financial incentives *all* support the risk and the leverage.
I think they need more bloodletting.
geor3ge
The "Tree of Liberty" and all that..
Dave, go read this:
http://msn.foxsports.com/horsera...royal-
bloodline
The only way to make obscene amounts of money in finance is on the backs of people with little-to-none.
Folded your tongue.
You can never have enough good lefties.
Echidne, Ruggles House, here in Burlington, is the closest thing to what you're describing that I know of.
Residents have a combination of private and shared public spaces. Seems to be quite popular. Some units are subsidized.
http://www.cathedralsquare.org/p...perty.php?
id=11
The young bjorn-ette's chorus group sang for the Mologne House dedication at Walter Reed today. That's where soldiers in their final stages of rehab get to stay with their families before being sent out into the world.
I'm still literally shaking. 18 yo's with one leg, no legs, one arm, brain injuries so severe for example this poor kid could barely keep his cigarette in his mouth.
They really need to introduce more bloodlines into the sport
They run them too young, that's the real tragedy.
Well, the fat lady's sung, Marv. I'm off to boil some rusty campaign buttons for dinner.
I'm left-handed.
Apparently, that means I'm creative. I wouldn't give a shit if I had hair...
You take a chance everytime you put the ball in the air.
a feminist who changed her mind too late
Changed her mind about what? There are feminists who don't want to burden their children, yanno.
You can never have enough good lefties.
Gomez
Like MLB, I settle for mediocre lefties.
mourning doves at dusk and dawn.
res ipsa loquitur |
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I have a pair of them nesting in the cedar tree right outside my bedroom window. They can be really LOUD in the morning.
The world will always need cartoonists...I wonder how many people a commun-ity would need to make itself mostly self sustaining?
What do we do to get Pelosi to call a technical foul on Chicken Caesar?
I'm still literally shaking. 18 yo's with one leg, no legs, one arm, brain injuries so severe for example this poor kid could barely keep his cigarette in his mouth.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi
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we DFH's should lobby to get the minimum enlistment age raised to 21. screw this "drop the drinking age to 18" crap. just think how many fewer enlistees there would be if they were a little older and more mature when they made the decision?
Sometimes it the little things that don't show up on the scorecard that make all the difference.
OK, that sucked.
You take a chance everytime you put the ball in the air.
Gomez
I'm well aware of exactly what I'm risking with my balls in the air..
The world will always need cartoonists...I wonder how many people a commun-ity would need to make itself mostly self sustaining?
There would be an easy-to-care vegetable garden (high troughs perhaps), so some people would need to love gardening. Then some bakers and some chefs and so on...
Some were apparently older. I think its time to go all French revolution here.
Anybody miss me today?
I feel this way about the American presidency.
res ipsa loquitur
Heh.
As for Chuck -- if nothing else, he's raised a lot of money to get Democrats elected to the Senate. And we don't get anywhere without a filibuster proof Democratic Senate.
realkitty: flat line better than crater, which is what I fear. Strange attractor shift to the bottom of the page. back later.
I'm still literally shaking. 18 yo's with one leg, no legs, one arm, brain injuries so severe for example this poor kid could barely keep his cigarette in his mouth. -Bjorn,a poor young country boi
was he wearin' his flagpin?
OK, that sucked.
Gomez
I think you were referring to "intangibles".
I like the mourning doves. They always remind me of summer. I just can't figure out where they're nesting. They're closeby, though.
Bjorn,
Kinda makes you want to grab Bush by the scruff, don't it?
Anybody miss me today?
NTodd
But of course.
[looks at clock] Boy, you took that 24 hours quite literally
Anybody miss me today?
NTodd, Gams Man
We put in this Gehrig guy, he was great.
I've had a recurring dream for years. A long wide porch with rocking chairs and old ladies listening to rock & roll, and somebody brings us ice tea. I've told this dream to my friends, and they're all like--yeah, let's get that house.
echidne - are "high troughs" raised beds? if we had raised beds then even people in wheelchairs could work them.
maybe the ones who do the major gardening and cooking could get lower rent?
Anybody miss me today?
NTodd
and not a minute past the 24hrs...
despite what haloscan says
There would be an easy-to-care vegetable garden (high troughs perhaps), so some people would need to love gardening. Then some bakers and some chefs and so on...
I love gardening AND baking.
I always miss you, NTodd..
"As for Chuck -- if nothing else, he's raised a lot of money"
Fuck Chuck. He Sucks.
we'd need it to be in a city with good public transportation so we'd have freedom to go out independently.
TEBB, grumpy female |
05.04.08 - 12:01 am | #
or near the city so one could be somewhat independent of the dollar economy. near enough for adequate medical care to be obtained however. or the gorup could have a vehicle or three to share and lower the overall cost of individual ownership.
"Anybody miss me today?"
why, did you go somewhere?
echidne - are "high troughs" raised beds? if we had raised beds then even people in wheelchairs could work them.
maybe the ones who do the major gardening and cooking could get lower rent?
Yes, I meant raised beds. I was thinking that one could pay partly by the skills one brings in. A way to have people with less money without it being a burden at all.
Anybody miss me today?
NTodd
Elias was so heartbroken at your absence he needed to be consoled by mimi and annie.
I love gardening AND baking.
watertiger
I love eating stuff from the garden and baked good...any good commune needs a food tester
A'ight, I'm turning in. Gotta drag my choir-directing ass out of bed in the early early.
Cooperative living for DFH's could be a blast, so long as there were private places to retreat to.
Bjorn,
Kinda makes you want to grab Bush by the scruff, don't it?
bo | 05.04.08 - 12:07 am | #
For what's its worth, the facilities were very good.
Anybody miss me today?
NTodd
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that depends, what did you bring us?
Bed. *poof*
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"I've had a recurring dream for years. A long wide porch with rocking chairs and old ladies listening to rock & roll, and somebody brings us ice tea. I've told this dream to my friends, and they're all like--yeah, let's get that house.
helena handbasket | 05.04.08 - 12:07 am | # "
Porches are nice. The "decline of civility" began with the disappearance of front porches. And "eat-in" kitchens. I say first we hang all the architects.
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I missed you, Toddy. But only because you ducked.
Anybody miss me today?
NTodd, Gams Man
There was a discussion earlier about being pooped on.
Your name was mentioned.
The young bjorn-ette's chorus group sang for the Mologne House dedication at Walter Reed today.
Bravo.
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realkitty: flat line better than crater, which is what I fear. Strange attractor shift to the bottom of the page. back later.
baba durag |
05.04.08 - 12:06 am | #
flat line precedes crater doesn't it?
As for Chuck -- if nothing else, he's raised a lot of money to get corporate-friendly Democrats elected to the Senate.
filled in the missing blanks. Schumer, more than anybody else currently serving in the Senate, created the conditions of possibility leading to Big Shitpile. and to the Roberts Court. and to Torture-Approving AG Mukasey.
heckuva job, Chuckie.
NTodd, you were gone?
Kidding
Cooperative living for DFH's could be a blast, so long as there were private places to retreat to.
Absolutely private places. But with services and company nearby.
res,
SANCTUARY!
I'd like to see the enlistment age (and hell, why not a draft?) of 60. Hell to the Cheef would be eligible and have to explain not enlisting, no?
Has Swan contributed anything today?
and to Torture-Approving AG Mukasey.
heckuva job, Chuckie.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
without a doubt on #3
go read this...
Ha! I knew it:
The world's most valuable stud, Storm Cat, is a descendant of Native Dancer and had an ordinary racing career. As a sire, he's fathered numerous winners of high-profile races. He now commands up to $300,000 per mating.
I'm so old I actually bet on Storm Cat, IIRC...
Has Swan contributed anything today?
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas
Well if you go by that standard I should be banned immediately.
My son's battalion returned from Eyerack, again. No wounded or worse this time.
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"Anybody miss me today?"
How can I miss you when you won't go away???
Grrr.
The "decline of civility" began with the disappearance of front porches. And "eat-in" kitchens. I say first we hang all the architects.
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cosanostradamus
I'll agree with the porches part.
But what do you have against eat-in kitchens?
QuentinCompson - that is GREAT, I am very happy for your son and your whole family.
And good on the bjorn-ette and her group. What was her reaction to seeing the Vets?
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Nothing.
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Frank Rich is very shrill.
res ipsa loquitur
Not shrill enough, apparently. No one in the MSM is listening to Frank Rich. They don't even know who John Hagee is..
My son's battalion returned from Eyerack, again. No wounded or worse this time.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory
I hope he's home for good.
Anybody miss me today?
NTodd
My indifference knew no consolation ...
are we keeping a list of all the things we want in a commune?
the thing is that there should be some ability for people to move from one community to another like timeshares. Say you want to stay at the community in Dallas for a while then go visit watertiger's group or head down to the Wang and visit Sinfonian for a bit? If we had a home community with the ability to trade for a while that would be great.
I'm sorry, but that ArabLounge.com ad has got to go.
How do I get that in rotation with Cliff Schecter and the "I Hate CNA" ads, anyway? What's the logarithm for that???
Thanks, TEBB.
Looks like right after he left it went bad news in the area:
http://www.reuters.com/article/l...s/
idUSL03346445
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Absolutely private places. But with services and company nearby.
Echidne
Ok, we've got enough people here to open one of these.
Now -- where do we put it?
My son's battalion returned from Eyerack, again. No wounded or worse this time.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory
Yay.
QuentinCompson - that is GREAT, I am very happy for your son and your whole family. - TEBB
Seconding TEBB.
Wow, Microsoft drops its bid for Yahoo?
More people should tell Atrios what ads should be featured on a random ad network. And even more people should complain about it.
Such good news, Quentin.
Ok, we've got enough people here to open one of these.
Now -- where do we put it?
Well, hellkitty proposed a chain so we just put them everywhere, I guess.
My son's battalion returned from Eyerack, again. No wounded or worse this time.
Huzzah!!!
I hope he's home for good.
Gomez
Thanks. Amen to that, for everybody.
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"are we keeping a list of all the things we want in a commune?
the thing is that there should be some ability for people to move from one community to another like timeshares. Say you want to stay at the community in Dallas for a while then go visit watertiger's group or head down to the Wang and visit Sinfonian for a bit? If we had a home community with the ability to trade for a while that would be great.
therealhellkitty | 05.04.08 - 12:15 am | # "
Like really old Dharma Bums?
Our hippie days may have a payback after all: The skills: Hitchhiking, couch-crashing, locating food co-ops in strange cities, rolling a joint with one hand (the other one has arthritis too bad).
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How do I get that in rotation with Cliff Schecter and the "I Hate CNA" ads, anyway? What's the logarithm for that???
dave™©
Well, we talk about Iraq and healthcare a lot.
Dunno about Cliff Shecter.
Wow, Microsoft drops its bid for Yahoo?
watertiger
They had to. The bid kept crashing.
The chain could be called Eschatonia. For end-times...
flory, I don't think there can only be one. I suggest there be several of them all over the country.
Wow, Microsoft drops its bid for Yahoo?
watertiger
Yahoo is too fucked up for even MSFT to want to buy.
Ok, we've got enough people here to open one of these.
Now -- where do we put it?
Right by the Xanadu shopping complex in Secaucus.
BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH!
flory, I don't think there can only be one. I suggest there be several of them all over the country.
therealhellkitty
Yeah. I like your timeshare idea.
Aren't "free" markets wonderful? Soon we will have exactly one firm in each industry, the very opposite of what "free" markets was supposed to mean.
The chain could be called Eschatonia. For end-times...
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you know, this could be the beginning of a very good thing.
I believe that there are a lot of people who are very concerned about how they will retire.
Right by the Xanadu shopping complex in Secaucus.
watertiger
You'll enjoy living there, I'm sure......
The bid kept crashing.
Gomez
res, you still here?
BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH!
NTodd, Gams Man
Yahoo kept hitting Ctrl Alt Del
It wasn't fair.
hellkitty, that's a good point. I'd like neighborhoods to have several houses of commonality (to coin a phrase, or mayby copywrite it here and now, dudes), where you could park your wrinkly ass for as long as it works out. You'd have to either have few possessions, or else have a permanent base dwelling, but you'd be understood to be welcome at several front porches any time.
Things would have to be worked out, I guess, like alcohol, shmoking (left and right hand cigarettes), and how the group could exclude someone obnoxious. But wouldn't it be excellent to porch-hop? And be okay with being, uh, older?
Hi everyone. Just had an absolutely wonderful dinner here with good friends. Beer-battered fried shrimp, creamed corn and cole slaw--they brought some delicious crunch nut bars for dessert. All is good in my world tonight. I need to do this more often. I've become too much of a hermit lately.
goodtobeonlinekaymoutl8rh9rz!
You'll enjoy living there, I'm sure......
C'mon! 36,000 sq. ft. candy store, indoor ski run...
May 4
[underscore]
Kent State
Appreciate
Don't hesitate
To relate
To the fate
Of those slaughtered by the State
Don't denigrate
Schroeder-Miller-Scheuer-Krause
Rhodes a louse
Inquire/Reflect/Learn
BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH!
Yahoo insisted it be changed to yellow and M$ refused and killed the deal.
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Yes -- when everyone starts using political metaphors to describe teams and games, it will be OK to use sports metaphors to describe politics.
"Yes, Arizona certainly won some Electoral College votes in last night's game, getting them that much closer to the White House."
"What I want to see is Coach Nesbitt putting together more of a coalition, winning more delegates. Otherwise, he's going to be begging for second place on the ticket, or even settling for City Council next season."
Unless that risk and the degree of leverage are effectively regulated, we'll get right back here again.
Because the financial incentives *all* support the risk and the leverage.
flory | 05.04.08 - 12:01 am |
It also helps that you can keep a lot of this crap "off the book."
mer,
Sounds like a great time. Reminds me of our dinner in Philly.
Night, all
Peace
How about some martial arts metaphors?
Why isn't Hillary tapping?
That kind of thing.
nite, DWD.
Hello?
Just back from a week in Louisiana, and the ubiquitous RNC-financed "Don Tax-a-You will be hooking up with Obama and Pelosi" ads were appalling and very creepy. Don C. had charming ads that seemed much more relevant, and I'm so glad that he beat Woody Jenkins (who previously endorsed David Duke). Thanks for the update, Atrios.
Vicki! 
To quote her own words, I hope Sen. Clinton is "totally obliterated" from the Democratic nomination sometime in June.
Ted Nugent on the Outdoor Channel has a segment on self defense for women.
1.)Every man on the planet is a potential attacker of women. The only time women need to worry about other women is in prison.
2.)When a man comes at you do not try to push him away but try to block him in the chest with your forearm. This position leaves him with little leverage to further his attack.
3.)When possible drop to your knees and thrust your forearm up into his balls, then draw your hand out, squeeze his balls, and twist.
4.)When being attacked you must always escalate the attack to a level of visciousness higher than the attacker. Eye gouges, testicle rips, etc.
5.)When a man is attempting to rape he'll try to free his hands to unbutton his pants. At that point go for his balls.
Well, Marv, that full crane swooping maneuver sure cost her some points, but the broken pelvis it delivered has gotta hurt his chances in the race.
i must retire for the evening.
i expect a complete prospectus on the Atrioterre Commun-ity in the morning.
Ok, we've got enough people here to open one of these.
Now -- where do we put it?
Well, not to be self-serving but I know a place not 5 miles from, well, me, that would be perfect for a starter joint.
circa 200 acres, big main house, several fenced areas (pastures for cows, horse, goats, whatever), most of it in timber (lumber source, income from tree crop), on a river (water power source), gardening acreage as desired.
Small-town hospital 10 miles away; medical resources of Memphis and Nashville 100 miles west and east respectively. Not much in the way of culture or bookstores but that's why we have a friggin internet, right? And with our commune we would create a demand for things which doesn't presently exist in sufficient quantity to support a store.
Not that I'm trying to get you all to join me here in w. TN or anything... (sob)
I just discovered that a singer named Harvey Andrews wrote a song for Sandy Scheuer called "Hey Sandy."
It's pretty cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x...h?v=xe-22-
BajRA
"Hello?"
--Vicki,
You say hello, I say goodbye, hello, hellooooooo just kidding. or remembering the Beatles.
C'mon! 36,000 sq. ft. candy store, indoor ski run...
watertiger
Sure, but they cancelled the walker racing lanes and the wheelchair wheelie ramps.
The drugstore doesn't carry blue or lavender hair color.
You have to go to Morristown for the orthopedic shoes.
Nope.
I vote for Scottsdale.
[minnesotan] Goodnaaaght, Watertiger[/minnesotan]
Fats Domino had a song perfectly appropriate:
"Ain't That A Shame"
heh heh
I could give my self-defense advice but it's not legally advisable to do it in this format. The best thing is to get proper training by qualified instructors and to understand that repetition, repetition and repetition is necessary.
Things would have to be worked out, I guess, like alcohol, shmoking
(left and right hand cigarettes), and how the group could exclude
someone obnoxious. But wouldn't it be excellent to porch-hop? And be
okay with being, uh, older?
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I think that if individual homowners decided to sell up and pool their funds to purchase and improve properties to the type of community they want (I may want a more rural life than watertiger).
Excess funds would be invested to help sustain the members of the community and that one would be your "home" community. I think careful selection would have to be done by all members of the community to prevent the obnoxious member. I think that there is a great deal of diversity to the kinds of communities to be created, by laws and inheritance issues would need to be addressed.
This will require considerable thought. I's late too but let's keep this idea alive.
It also helps that you can keep a lot of this crap "off the book."
Steve J.
Which is part and parcel of the whole leverage problem.
You can't gear yourself 30-40X without moving the liabilities off the books.
yeah, I would want to retire someplace within driving distance of a ski resort, close by the sea, and easy access to a cool city.
in short, somewhere in southern British Columbia, or maybe Oregon, or the Maine Coast.
in short, somewhere in southern British Columbia, or maybe Oregon, or the Maine Coast.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
We can put GWPDA in charge of the one in grandmother country.
yeah, I would want to retire someplace within driving distance of a ski resort, close by the sea, and easy access to a cool city.
in short, somewhere in southern British Columbia, or maybe Oregon, or the Maine Coast.
...you may just have described either Portland or Eugene, Oregon...
And good on the bjorn-ette and her group. What was her reaction to seeing the Vets?
bo | 05.04.08 - 12:14 am | #
Actually better than I feared. We prepared for this sorta, although I'm a wreck. Kids are more resilient as they can't really imagine that anything is ever going to happen to them. Which is how/why they enlist in the first place, I guess.
Ted Nugent's new CD is Love Grenade. The man remains a classic american character whose full entertainment potential has yet to be exploited.
I think a face saving, graceful, "period of occupancy" like 3 months would be cool. Like you could if you wanted visit four or more porches a year, or by mutual agreement you could stay longer or permanently settle, subject to consensus. And consensus could encourage incompatible folk to move on without condemnation, exept that deserved. All the network communities would keep in touch from members in common. Or not, if they decide they're cool as they are or wish to join some other network of porches.
This idea may need some sleep.
Such good news, Quentin.
Wow, Microsoft drops its bid for Yahoo?
watertiger | Homepage | 05.04.08 - 12:17 am | #
inside line is that they've decided to go the hostile route...
We'll sit on the porch and survey our hemp farm.
i expect a complete prospectus on the Atrioterre Commun-ity in the morning.
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Damn, and I thought I was going to get to sleep tonight.
Echidne, when I was in crisis counseling after fleeing from my ex husband...my counselor very quietly advised keeping a can or two of long shot flying insect killer (it being a neurotoxin) and perfectly legal.One in the car and one next to the bed. A little bit in the face goes a long way apparently.
Echidne, when I was in crisis counseling after fleeing from my ex husband...my counselor very quietly advised keeping a can or two of long shot flying insect killer (it being a neurotoxin) and perfectly legal.One in the car and one next to the bed. A little bit in the face goes a long way apparently.
There are many ways. But practice is always necessary. Always. Our reflexes are what won't desert us in an emergency. In martial arts the practice also makes you very fit which helps.
i just looked at msnbc to catch up and news and found this horrific story. its not like the guy had a heroin or alcohol habit that would affect his transplanted organ:
SEATTLE - A man who was denied a liver transplant largely because he used marijuana with medical approval to ease the symptoms of hepatitis C has died.
Timothy Garon, 56, died Thursday at Bailey-Boushay House, an intensive care nursing center, said his lawyer, Douglas Hiatt, and Alisha Mark, a spokeswoman for Virginia Mason Medical Center, which operates Bailey-Boushay.
His death came a week after a doctor told him a University of Washington Medical Center committee had again denied him a spot on the liver transplant list. The team had previously told him it would not consider placing him on the list until he completed a 60-day drug-treatment class.
This assisted living for yuppies sounds great.
Ted Nugent's new CD is Love Grenade. The man remains a classic american character whose full entertainment potential has yet to be exploded.
fyt
...you may just have described either Portland or Eugene, Oregon...
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05.04.08 - 12:34 am
I love the PNW and would love to move back. the only caveat is that Cascadia is overdue for a class 9 earthquake.
This assisted living for yuppies sounds great.
It does, doesn't it? There are many problems, naturally, but I don't think any of them are insurmountable. And we could make something better than the average assisted housing thing.
SEATTLE - A man who was denied a liver transplant largely because he used marijuana with medical approval to ease the symptoms of hepatitis C has died.
I don't suppose we could just have the Oregon militia move in and take over Seattle, could we?
Our reflexes are what won't desert us in an emergency. In martial arts the practice also makes you very fit which helps.
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05.04.08 - 12:38 am | #
Tai chi is on the list of classes at the Atriot Home for independent living.
"until he completed a 60-day drug-treatment class."
Eh?
Ok, while dreaming about sitting on the porch with lots of wrinkly DFHs, I'm gonna curl up with a book.
Good night.
Echidne are you in the States?
TEBB, there are several local bloggers who have been writing about that poor man's case. Lot's of docs who apparently are not understanding of medical marijuana (we do have a medical marijuana use law here).
Tai chi is on the list of classes at the Atriot Home for independent living.
I have now practiced it for eleven years. By the time I retire I can probably levitate.
His death came a week after a doctor told him a University of Washington Medical Center committee had again denied him a spot on the liver transplant list. The team had previously told him it would not consider placing him on the list until he completed a 60-day drug-treatment class.
TEBB, grumpy female
So it can never again be said that nobody has ever died as a result of using marijuana....
goodnight! talk with y'all soon. Keep dreaming it will come around some day if we intend for it to do so.
Ted Nugent's new CD is Love Grenade. The man ate only vienna sausages and pepsi for weeks and shit his pants the entire time in order to escape getting his nuts blown off in Vietnam.
Another classic chickenhawk.
Echidne are you in the States?
Yes, I am. Around Beantown.
I understand denying a transplant to someone who is taking a drug that will damage the organ to be received or the person's health in general. But someone who takes marijuana to handle the effects of Hep C is not in that category.
Unfortunately, this is the kind of thing that could be solved by a lawsuit but then the procurement agency would have less money to do its good work.
I have now practiced it for eleven years. By the time I retire I can probably levitate.
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05.04.08 - 12:43 am | #
will you teach?
I forgot, he bragged about it at the time.
I think that it's beddy-by time for the Rowsdower household.
Goodnight, folksez.
will you teach?
I already do, and love it. Love it.
Lot's of docs who apparently are not understanding of medical marijuana
I know at least one Episcopalian physician on the Eastside who is given to speaking in tongues on a regular basis.
I suspect the man votes Republican.
Occasionally I miss Seattle. Something tells me it wouldn't take me long to get over it, though.
Fuck...I forgot to change my name back. I was Terrible Blogger.
I too bristled at this story about the legit marijuana being grounds to deny a transplant. But just to be sure would there ever be a truly medical reason that he should not be medically eligible for a transplant? I.E., would THC make his tissues less receptive or his prognosis any worse? Without knowing that, it looks like it's just
"screw you, ya filthy DFH".
Echidne, did you give up on the Dune books?
I already do, and love it. Love it.
Echidne |
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05.04.08 - 12:45 am | #
that's wonderful. I really want to learn more. I began some years ago but was unable to pursue it.
TEBB, there are several local bloggers who have been writing about that poor man's case. Lot's of docs who apparently are not understanding of medical marijuana (we do have a medical marijuana use law here).
Tlazolteotl
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that's just nuts - "not understanding" part. i'm not a dr, don't smoke cigs or pot or use any drugs. i just keep up with news and i understand it. i think it's too kind to say "not understanding." i can't imagine WHAT the mindset is of some person or committee that would basically condemn a man to death for smoking marijuana to handle his hepatitis.
sorry if i sound bitter, i'm a bit short on tolerance lately.
good night folks, sleep well.
The Eastside is full of smug Republicans. Bellevue, Medina, Issaquah...
that's wonderful. I really want to learn more. I began some years ago but was unable to pursue it.
Something you can do on your own is to pick one movement and stay in it for a while, like five minutes. Pay attention to how your body is feeling, and if something feels uncomfortable, change your posture slightly to see if that helps. By just listening to your body you can learn a lot about what the posture is intended to do. Then you can move to another posture and do the same thing. Or you could just play with the opening move, over and over again, the same way, but while doing it rather than standing still.
Echidne, did you give up on the Dune books?
I finished the first one, but haven't taken any others out from the library yet.
"would there ever be a truly medical reason that he should not be medically eligible for a transplant?"
Yeah, the docs just can't stand the idea of the patient insisting on Pink Floyd being piped into the OR.
Thanks, ErinPDX and Echidne and ba and flory, and all. I'll pass it on soon.
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CNN:
"After several years of development, the Tesla Roadster -- with sleek lines like a Ferrari or Porsche and a sticker price of $109,000 --"
Considering the guy who really needs an electric vehicle can't even come close to that asking price, I feel the spirit of the exercise is lacking.
I can't imagine it either, TEBB. I don't really know enough about the case to know whether there was a good medical reason for the decision or not, but yes, it has the ring of "let the druggie die" to many observers here. For example, see Lee's posts on this at HorsesAss.org or I'm sure he has them up at BlogReload.com as well.
The docs are probably juicers still fighting the 60s.
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"juicers" ?
Meaning?
QuentinCompson Downscale Dem
i'm very lucky and know it.
appreciate you and yours.
The Eastside is full of smug Republicans. Bellevue, Medina, Issaquah...
Used to live in Bellevue, in my previous life as a Republican.
On the Eastside, even the liberals are Republicans, most of them. And there *are* some liberals.
I.E., would THC make his tissues less receptive or his prognosis any worse? Without knowing that, it looks like it's just
"screw you, ya filthy DFH".
helena handbasket
Given that they want him to finish a 'drug treamtment' program, it sounds like they're judging him to have a problem, not basing their decision on any kind of clinical indications.
But who knows? Maybe the THC interferes with the immunosuppresants?
i just looked at msnbc to catch up and news and found this horrific story. its not like the guy had a heroin or alcohol habit that would affect his transplanted organ:
A friend of mine was warned to stop smoking pot or he would be removed from the transplant list. He stopped.
Even from pothead levels THC leaves the body pretty much completely in about 30 days.
Echidne's in my neck of the woods!
But who knows? Maybe the THC interferes with the immunosuppresants?
This presumes that he wouldn't follow doctor's orders re meds after his transplant, if they told him to discontinue the marijuana use. Which I think is part of the problem - people making presumptions about why he's actually using.
N'Orleans, straight schooling the Spurs...
Ted Nugent sucks.
From all I've ever seen of real research THC may be beneficial rather than harmful to actual physical tissue. I would say the prejudice and condemnation should await and bow to actual physical and researched medical data on treatment outcomes.
I don't know, it sounds a bit like calling somebody with endstage cancer who is taking oxycontin an addict, you know? Not even relevant.
"juicers" ?
Meaning?
EkCenTriK
AKA 'partakers':
Judge Soggy Sweat:
My friends, I had not intended to discuss this controversial subject at this particular time. However, I want you to know that I do not shun controversy. On the contrary, I will take a stand on any issue at any time, regardless of how fraught with controversy it might be. You have asked me how I feel about whiskey. All right, here is how I feel about whiskey.
If when you say "whiskey" you mean the devil's brew, the poison scourge, the bloody monster, that defiles innocence, dethrones reason, destroys the home, creates misery and poverty, yea, literally takes the bread from the mouths of little children; if you mean the evil drink that topples the Christian man and woman from the pinnacle of righteous, gracious living into the bottomless pit of degradation and despair and shame and helplessness and hopelessness, then certainly I am against it.
But if when you say "whiskey" you mean the oil of conversation, the philosophic wine, the ale that is consumed when good fellows get together, that puts a song in their hearts and laughter on their lips, and the warm glow of contentment in their eyes; if you mean Christmas cheer; if you mean the stimulating drink that puts the spring in the old gentleman's step on a frosty, crispy morning; if you mean the drink which enables a man to magnify his joy, and his happiness, and to forget, if only for a little while, life's great tragedies, and heartaches, and sorrows; if you mean that drink, the sale of which pours into our treasuries untold millions of dollars, which are used to provide tender care for our little crippled children, our blind, our deaf, our dumb, our pitiful aged and infirm, to build highways and hospitals and schools, then certainly I am for it.
This is my stand. I will not retreat from it. I will not compromise.
http://grammar.about.com/b/2007/...skey-
speech.htm
But who knows? Maybe the THC interferes with the immunosuppresants?
flory
My friend didn't mention anything like that. It seemed to be a social prohibtion more than a medical one.
M'out.
LaterAtriots!
the last three words of tonight's Death Note summed up the human condition perfectly.
Alrighty, I'm going to go do a few other things before the birds force me to turn the lights out. g'nite, batses!
A communal living arrangement could easily be set up as a closely-held corporation. The corporation could hold the real estate, and any issues regarding the passage of shares on death or withdrawl from the community could be addressed through the bylaws.
Or you could just play with the opening move, over and over again, the same way, but while doing it rather than standing still.
Echidne
Any links to what this "opening move" would consist of? I've tried to learn yoga from websites and gotten something from it but decided I need a real teacher to get anywhere, and there are none hereabouts. Tai Chi on the other hand I wouldn't know where to start.
btw on the medical marijuana guy...maybe he wouldn't have needed the pot to help him with the hep if he had had the fucking transplant and not had hep any more?
(yeah, I know it probably would have come back from other parts of the body, but this would have taken some time.)
this thread is in about the 18th inning, eh?
stuckinlodi, I feel ya, babe. I'm just a retired recovering lawyer and I understand what you're saying about a closely held corporation. But I wouldn't go there with a ten-foot pole. I don't foresee any real common ground rules among the porch houses, other than to consider members applying, like no pedophiles or reporters.
My vision is a much more casual "grouping", failing to find another word for it. No legal ties nor obligations to each other, other than honest evaluations and referrals.
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What could you call that...Loosely-held associations, or some such?
Ted Nugent sucks.
Duane V, 'Nuff Said
Wang, dang, sweet poon-tang, d00d.
aiight....I'm gonna go read for awhile.
Final thought on the transplant.
It flat sucks if we can't even trust trained clinicians to make decisions based on science and need rather than on bias and public opinion.
If that's indeed what happened, then our healthcare system is even more fucked up than I thought.
someone wake up ntodd and tell him he can turn his electronic gizmoes back on now. oh wait, he did. or was this a "future post?"
http://www.dohiyimir.org/2008/05...ya-miss-
me.html
My vision is a much more casual "grouping", failing to find another word for it. No legal ties nor obligations to each other, other than honest evaluations and referrals.
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What could you call that...Loosely-held associations, or some such?
helena handbasket
then who owns the houses?
Helena, my thought with a corporation is that it would give more flexability than other forms of holding title to real estate. The agreements between various houses could be much looser.
Some people say that seat Cazayoux won has been R since 1974.
http://
www.democraticunderground...mesg_id=3295651
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then who owns the houses?
flory
All your houses are belong to us.
Some people say that seat Cazayoux won has been R since 1974.
Cazayoux won less than 50%. In LA, doesn't that mean runoff?
cazayoux wins it with walk-off hr. opponent euthanized after finishing 2nd.
wuh, no walk off if run-off?
It was a special election, plurality it seems:
Democrat Cazayoux wins congressional seat in Louisiana
50 minutes ago
BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) — Democrat Don Cazayoux has won a special congressional election, bolstering his party's majority status on Capitol Hill and taking a seat held by Republicans since 1974.
Cazayoux, a state lawmaker, beat Republican Woody Jenkins to cap a campaign that drew attention and cash from the national parties and from interest groups in Washington. The seat opened when Republican Richard Baker, a 20-year incumbent, resigned to take a lobbying job.
With all precincts reporting, Cazayoux had 49 percent to 46 percent for Jenkins, a community newspaper publisher. Three independents combined to take over 4 percent of the vote.
http://ap.google.com/article/
ALe...QlMj2AD90EJJK80
Apparently leaves the Rs 199 in the people's House. Heh, psych.
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According to posters at Great Orange Satan,LA changed their laws so that a runoff for a win of less than 50% is no longer required in a general election; the runoff thing is just for primaries now.
I used to own (mortgaged, of course) a big ole house with a 55 foot front porch, 5 br and 6.5 bathrooms. I would have liked to have it be a great old comfy house for compatible folks.
I think it will be like bed and breakfast place with a little different business model. Not quite a boardinghouse, maybe a theme boardinghouse kind of thing, with a 3 month, or month to month, tenure and a compatibility re quirement.
Would that be possible?
so maybe more like a bases loaded walk in bottom of 9th?
According to posters at Great Orange Satan,LA changed their laws so that a runoff for a win of less than 50% is no longer required in a general election; the runoff thing is just for primaries now.
Fuckin' A.
Pinot noir is a hell of a drug. I'm going to crawl into bed lest Lady Doghiney should have to pick up my fat ass and put me there.
There are several places the Ds could spend money smart and turn seats, like Childers in the MS 1st. They may be bluish dog but they drive the R org deeper in the sand, caucuswise.
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How about: the houses are owned by individuals. They rent out rooms to more or less permanent tenants to cover mortgage, taxes, etc. The people who rent can freely come and go between houses linked in a loose federation of some sort. And money in excess of expenses at the end of the year gets recycled or distributed somehow.
limited liability corp should own the home - that way there are no taxes at the corp level but the members/owners are protected from liability because its a corp.
i think any ability to move from one to another location should be handled informally - someone wanting to stay in another city would send an email that would get posted in the house and anyone wanting to give up their room(s) for that period of time could enter into an agreement to do so. we could have a form agreement for "trades" that would have to be used as it will require things like "quiet enjoyment" to protect the other house members.
I think it will be like bed and breakfast place with a little different business model. Not quite a boardinghouse, maybe a theme boardinghouse kind of thing, with a 3 month, or month to month, tenure and a compatibility re quirement.
Would that be possible?
helena handbasket
Well, it could be that there would be several different forms. One of the sort you describe, more of a business/rental property organization. Others could approach almost the setup of a monastery (need Prior A's advice here) where once you're in you're safe until you die.
We're scattered, we're at different stages of life, we have different wants right now and different expectations for the future...this strikes me as an advantage rather than a problem.
i think any ability to move from one to another location should be handled informally - someone wanting to stay in another city would send an email that would get posted in the house and anyone wanting to give up their room(s) for that period of time could enter into an agreement to do so.
exactly so.
Helena, that would work if there was an individual willing to hold title and assume the responsibilities for taxes, insurance, liability, etc. The compatibility thing is kind of a problem; you could run into housing discrimination problems.
i'm off to read a while then sleep. a friend is due to have her baby at any time and every night i go to bed thinking tonight might be the night i get the call and go to the hospital and watch the baby be born.
hugs to all
night TEBB
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Night tebb, best wishes to your friend. I should probably head out as well...
...after checking a couple more posts of course to see if people make rude remarks behind my back.
/wondering how many others do this.
When I think about the win in LA the song "kick 'em when they're up, kick 'em when they're down" runs through my mind.
I wanna beat these fuckers like that proverbial red headed stepchild.
cazayoux upsets kooky republican with buzzer beater three
the caz take out team fear on short-handed goal in 3rd
caz makes game winning td catch from indies as time expires in superdome
caz birdie on 18 sinks wingnut
caz outlasts psychotic sack o shit in 5 sets
caz clamps down miracle huck from indies as evil R ousted on ultimate pitch
caz steady through 10 frames as douchebag rolls sub-200 and falls in gutter
WHOA! Who powered up the Sports Metaphor 3000, Milt?
sports metaphors win elections!
Im gettin' too sleepy. Time to go dream about the big house with the porch and my DFH roomates...
Really, the opportunity to grind the Rs into greasy spots in the parking lot must not be untaken.
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now get out there and move the damn ball! 1-2-3 TEAM!!
Xan, absolutely.
And TEBB, also.
It's a model worth working out. We are very diverse geographically. We don['t have to be distant in compatibility.
that's the miracle of the freakin' internet.
I know people here better than I know my next door neighbor. Nobody might want to come visit me in my little 2 bedroom house, but if 2 of us sing it "you can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant"
It's that kind of a deal.
I might research and buy (again) a big ass house with a porch if I thought it could become one of a string of atrio-terre communi-ties, as it were.
It is our duty as human beings to see this task through. Irresponsible not to.
only 31 people left at the ballpark as we head to the 21st inning.
whoops, that dood over there appears to be heading for the exit. make that 30.
thirty stalwarts.
I don't know how I'm still here, but I am
what ayam.
so, notaboomer, when were you born and why are you so notaboomer?
The crowd seems to be calling for some kind of linen.
Can you hear it: SHEETS!!
okay, I give up.
I was so paranoid I stuck around long enough to hit refresh, so can mention the improved bed linens upstairs.
nice song, too. Even I liked it, and I am Mikey when it comes to music posts here.
Bitey SHEETS upstairs
That's, to get your sports talk updated, is called a walk-off.
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