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Al Gore would, too.
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05.03.08 - 10:53 pm | #
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No sports metaphors. I hate sports metaphors.
Go team GORE!
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.03.08 - 10:54 pm | #
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Slam dunk.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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I, Vicki Who ♥ Al Gore, has shot and scored.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.03.08 - 10:54 pm | #
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So, you want to be the league commissioner?
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05.03.08 - 10:54 pm | #
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ball's in your court ... sport
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Mother fucker stole my homerun.
Will my boyfriend get to third base with me next weekend?
heh he heh
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.03.08 - 10:55 pm | #
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You do that and I'll throw you under the bus!
Thers |
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*** OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM (In and Around Afghanistan), includes casualties that occurred
in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Uzbekistan.
**** OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM (Other Locations), includes casualties that occurred in
Guantanamo Bay (Cuba), Djibouti, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Jordan, Kenya, Kyrgyzstan, Philippines, Seychelles,
Sudan, Tajikistan, Turkey, and Yemen.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/...ws/
casualty.pdf
See, the world?
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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05.03.08 - 10:56 pm | #
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I prefer food metaphors.
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05.03.08 - 10:57 pm | #
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I can't wait until we all slide in to that great big homeplate in the sky...
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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05.03.08 - 10:58 pm | #
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Wow...Neil Diamond can be really bad.
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05.03.08 - 10:58 pm | #
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TEBB y'all are TXn?
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yes, Dallas. luckily i live in a diverse (i.e. not heavily republican" ) neighborhood.
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My FDL post goes live in seven minutes. At that moment all other commentary at liberal blogs becomes instantly obsolete.
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The use of war metaphors in the sporting world is especially odious.
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I for one welcome our new sports addled metaphor.
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Wow...Neil Diamond can be really bad.
But then now what is the way to make me happy?
Thers |
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05.03.08 - 11:00 pm | #
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stop moving the goalposts, man.
watertiger |
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05.03.08 - 11:00 pm | #
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Don Cazayoux for Youz!!
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i'm going to take a break - there's a chocolate, frosted brownie in my fridge and some cold milk just screaming my name.
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Gotta go.
Love to you all.
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Red State Coattails was a 45 that rocked to the top of the charts in the early eighties.
retro-fueled electoral victories in all the Deep South
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But then now what is the way to make me happy?
Google "Yahoo Serious". If he can't make you happy, I don't know what will do it.
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Shit, I've got a polyp funnier than you.
Shared Humanity | 05.03.08 - 10:56 pm | #
thank you very little...
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stop moving the goalposts, man.
Stop moving my, stop moving my, stop moving my goalposts around.
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Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Can I give a little advice, friend. Take the opportunity. I stayed too long under the gun in my job and it cost me too much. I don't think that one can stay for twenty-five years of it the way I did: the price is too high.
The truth is that the only person who appreciates what you do is you and that is simply not good enough.
Go find yourself a school where the kids all want to go to college and are worried about getting a B rather than an A. When they don't do well on a test, they WANT you to explain how they can do better. If their essays are not up to par, they don't get mad: they ask you to help them.
The parents are not confrontational and the administration is not looking to find fault.
Go and enjoy your job for a while. Our victories are too small and our battles are too long and costly.
(I don't regret it, but I understand it and think you have done well.)
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Stop moving my, stop moving my, stop moving my goalposts around.
DON'T MOCK TOM PETTY, MOTHERFUCKER!
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05.03.08 - 11:03 pm | #
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I prefer sex metaphors.
McCain has a real hard-on for Iran.
Shared Humanity |
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Where the fuck is JeffCO?
It is rude, insulting, and frankly degenerate of JeffCO to be elsewhere when I want to engage in pointless witty pop-cultural banter. I hope he is ashamed of himself.
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At least one local station covered the port strike.
http://www.komotv.com/news/18436769.html
Good thing they put it on their website or I'd never believe it.
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He's in the Arab Online chatroom.
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"Can I give a little advice, friend. Take the opportunity."
thank you muchly.
Interest isn't an offer, but one school that said "we definitely want you" is pretty good.
I'll be in ok shape next year - if i can get a car that is...
I take public transit to work but I need a car for my kids
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Where the fuck is JeffCO?
Enjoying a concert in Denver.
DON'T MOCK JEFFCO, MOTHERFUCKER!
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yes, Dallas. luckily i live in a diverse (i.e. not heavily republican" ) neighborhood.
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I'm in Hays, the bluest county in TX, precinct 337 our little and I mean little section of Hays has more delegates to the State D convention than any other. I'm happy to say that I'm one of them.
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It is rude, insulting, and frankly degenerate of JeffCO to be elsewhere when I want to engage in pointless witty pop-cultural banter
*pouts*
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05.03.08 - 11:05 pm | #
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Enjoying a concert in Denver.
Is he seeing Hansard and Irklova?
I hate the bastard.
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Night all. Have a busy day tomorrow.
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McCain has a real hard-on for Iran.
Shared Humanity |
05.03.08 - 11:03 pm | #
Viagra hangover
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FUCK!
14 year old boy shot two blocks from my house. Ugh.
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05.03.08 - 11:07 pm | #
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The Old Man From Scene 24
May I have this seat next to you?
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Is he seeing Hansard and Irklova?
yah.
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Enjoying a concert in Denver.
DON'T MOCK JEFFCO, MOTHERFUCKER!
watertiger
Yeah, they don't need that arena for hockey games any more this year. 
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Viagra hangover
Shrinkage?
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Viagra hangover
If it's hangin' it ain't workin'...
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Shrinkage?
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05.03.08 - 11:07 pm | #
creepage.
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*lost down below*
Uncle B, this is the place: Civil War Memory.
Guy works at a private school of apparently vast resources, about as far away on the spectrum from you as can be and both be described as "high school teachers." But I read his site every week for a review column I do on Civil War blogs and can attest he is one of the Good Folk out there.
His Civil War special interest is the US Colored Troops and the Battle of the Crater at Petersburg. The few people who have ever heard of the USCT are mostly those who have seen the movie "Glory" and think that the 54th Mass was the only black unit in the war.
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Oh oh. Habs lost. PlumP and Ali are gonna need consolation.
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I am craving sweets so badly. a cookie, an ice cream sandwich, even a piece of chocolate would be nice.
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creepage.
therealhellkitty
he does have that Nixon meanness about him, doesn't he.
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I went out to hear some Shostakovich tonight. How uncool is that?
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mcstain will have the "Super Bowl" in Iran next Jan if elected prez.
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On the Coming Collapse of the Middle Classes video: I watched it the other night, and I was bothered by lots of statistical mistakes and economic mistakes in her story. The main arguments are valid, but the way the story was told is not good.
For example, she assumes that there were no income effects from bringing a grandparent home to recover from surgery in the 1970's single-earner family, because there was a wife at home. But that wife was there taking care of the children (remember the childcare expenses that were used earlier in the 2003 and 1970 comparisons?) So the sick grandparent , if really sick, would require that the stay-at-home mother hires child care.
In general, all work has a cost in the sense of the value of the next best lost alternative.
A second problem was that Warren picked what she called a modal family in 1970 (not sure if it was modal, even then) and then compared it to the same type family in 2003 when it is certainly not the modal family. The modal house in 1970 may or may have been the kind of house the modal family of 1970 lived in, but this is probably not true in 2003. So there are some apples and oranges in that part.
Then about the savings rate in 1970 and in 2003: She argued that the 1970 family saved 11% and the 2003 family had negative savings. But were 401ks around in 1970, for instance? And more importantly, that negative savings rate for 2003 is not specifically for the kind of family type she describes.
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creepage.
therealhellkitty
he does have that Nixon meanness about him, doesn't he.
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he reminds me of an angry hampster
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I thought the Great Orange Satan was the benevolent dictator.
When did he get overthrown? And why wasn't I invited?
DON'T MOCK TOM PETTY, MOTHERFUCKER!
watertiger
What she said.
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"How uncool is that?"
so uncool it's cool.
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million young poets
screamin' out their words
to a world full of people
just livin' to be heard
future generations
ridin' on the highways that we built
i hope they have a better understanding
check it out
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I went out to hear some Shostakovich tonight. How uncool is that?
Gromit
I don't know what you heard but there's nothing cooler than his Preludes and Fugues.
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"DON'T MOCK TOM PETTY, MOTHERFUCKER!"
it's so - Petty...
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I went out to hear some Shostakovich tonight. How uncool is that?
DON'T MOCK SHOSTA...
oh, feh. I don't have the energy.
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DWD, you are a GREAT teacher to recognize that. I say that only as a parent, because I have those kids.
They so want to do well, and only need the right guidance from the teacher. They often encounter assaholas who are playing ego-mind games to fuck with the kids, sadistically, or the other kinds of teachers. some of those respond to suck-up, and that's a lesson I remember all too well. Kids learn that lesson readily and it stays with them. I'd much rather my kid earn a B and want to earn an A than to get an A by feeding the ego-beastof a vain teacher.
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I found tonight that I cannot buy an emerald eternity band from the local jeweler's. Only from their website. This means that I can't see how it looks on my hand and I don't want to buy my mother a band I have not seen worn.
Echidne |
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05.03.08 - 11:15 pm | #
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You want cool. Cool as all get-up.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
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05.03.08 - 11:15 pm | #
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Stay off Orange Satan's lawn!
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I got yer sports metaphor:
Home Run: Canseco Lets House Go Into Foreclosure
And now, please stand for our national anthem:
I Ain't Got No Home
PUT YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART GODDAM IT!!!
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i hate short term stomach flus. /barfs, goes to bed/ gnite.
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I don't know what you heard but there's nothing cooler than his Preludes and Fugues.
5th symphony. Vermont symphony has improved amazingly since Jamie Laredo has been music director.
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Echidne,
when I hear about savings rates on the radio, for instance, or read about it in the papers, are 401K's not included when counting savings? That doesn't make any sense to me.
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Then about the savings rate in 1970 and in 2003: She argued that the 1970 family saved 11% and the 2003 family had negative savings. But were 401ks around in 1970, for instance? And more importantly, that negative savings rate for 2003 is not specifically for the kind of family type she describes.
Echidne
I watched that and had the same question. Women working outside of the home was pretty prevalent in 1970. It was as if she were being willfully blind to that particular fact.
There were other problems as well: there are reasons other than economic necessity for women to work. (As you well know. )
Third problem was that while tax rates and the cost of owning multiple automobiles has escalated, people owned multiple cars in 1970 as well. And when two people in a family were working, they paid a higher rate of taxes as well.
Still, her lecture was interesting and informative. It is like everything else, if you accept it for what it is: it is good. But as with all information, it must be placed into context.
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I am craving sweets so badly. a cookie, an ice cream sandwich, even a piece of chocolate would be nice.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari
Not to be mean or anything, but I have homemade lemon ice cream in mah freezer. Made from lemons from mah own lemon tree.
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I had no idea:
According to several estimates, there are 1.5 career-ending breakdowns for every 1,000 [horse] racing starts in the United States. That's an average of two per day.
That's chilling.
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 Echidne, I agree the presentation wasn't perfect. She wanted to compare apples to apples so chose a 2 parent, 2 kid family for the comparison. That was more common in 1970, but may not have been typical.
No, 401(k)s did not exist until the early to mid eighties, IIRC.
The big picture is that American families are more economically insecure than before. We're falling behind and getting deeper in debt.
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when I hear about savings rates on the radio, for instance, or read about it in the papers, are 401K's not included when counting savings? That doesn't make any sense to me.
They are. But were they around in 1970? And did the data she used include them?
I should read her book to find out.
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"I'd much rather my kid earn a B and want to earn an A than to get an A by feeding the ego-beast of a vain teacher."
I feel like i should respond...
but I don't know what to say
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But were 401ks around in 1970, for instance? And more importantly, that negative savings rate for 2003 is not specifically for the kind of family type she describes.
Echidne
No. There was no need for them. Most workers were covered by company pensions. So the 11% would have been on top of a pension. The 401(k) is the pension.
Did she get into that?
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helena handbasket
Thanks (blushing madly)
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401k's not around in 1970.
IRA's started sometime after that too.
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okay, i'm back with two recommendations:
1 - cheap table wine - its called "Oops." I keed you not. Had dinner at a neighbor's house tonight and she said she bought it at Target. It wasn't anything to write home about but was absolutely drinkable.
2 - Young at Heart. Great movie about a choir whose members average 80 years old. They sing rock and roll! Talking Heads, Sonic Youth, The Clash. The film is a documentary about this choir and the group has travelled Europe singing. The movie opens with them singing "Do I Stay or Do I Go." I laughed and cried during this film.
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05.03.08 - 11:20 pm | #
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coke to flory
baba durag |
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More ironic coolness...
Flint pride, bay-bay!
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
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So people who have negative savings now are spending more than they are putting into their 401Ks, pensions, any other stocks and bonds (savings bonds), and what? Is home equity counted in savings rates too?
Tlazolteotl |
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05.03.08 - 11:21 pm | #
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Tigre:
did you say you sent me an email? Cause I ain't got one.....
flory |
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coke to flory
baba durag
'enkew.
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Aagh! Seventies flashback, Zap.
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No, 401(k)s did not exist until the early to mid eighties, IIRC.
The big picture is that American families are more economically insecure than before. We're falling behind and getting deeper in debt.
Yes, on the increasing insecurity. But a middle class family may well have at least 401(k) and that means that their savings rate is unlikely to be negative. Also, until quite recently, people saved into their house.
I also had difficulties with the bars where she shows that 50% of expenses in 1970 were hard to change and that now that is 75%. But that remaining 25% of expenses that can be changed is actually more money because the family earns more. Her argument about the "extra worker" at home (the one that can be sent off to work so that the mortgage can be paid) assumes simultaneously that she would have earned enough and that the children she was minding now miraculously needed nobody to care for them.
Echidne |
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There's a picture of Cazayoux at TPM. He's cute.
flory,
I sent you an email.
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Tigre:
did you say you sent me an email? Cause I ain't got one.....
grrrr. will resend.
watertiger |
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Aaack...this song just came on.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas |
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per Wikipedia:
"In 1978, Congress amended the Internal Revenue Code, later called section 401(k), whereby employees are not taxed on income they choose to receive as deferred compensation rather than direct compensation.[2] The law went into effect on January 1, 1980."
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So the 11% would have been on top of a pension.
It wasn't clear how that was defined. I have to read the book.
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for reasons of my own I need to take off.
later
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher |
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Someone put Al Hofman's magic dust in my brain. The '70s are back, and they haven't improved.
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where on the Arab Street, I wonder, would one find the Arab Lounge?
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So people who have negative savings now are spending more than they are
putting into their 401Ks, pensions, any other stocks and bonds (savings
bonds), and what? Is home equity counted in savings rates too?
Tlazolteotl |
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We are barely squeeking by. I finally made the decision to contribute to the company 401(k) even though it ate up the whole of the raise I got. The company matches the first 3% at 100% and the next 3% at 50%. For a small company I thought it was pretty good. But with the price of gas & food going up its really hard not to drop out so we have a little more usable income.
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from belowThank God for insurance. Cannot afford a break in coverage now.
Shared Humanity
And there is what is most fucked up about our current system. You're now stuck in your job and/or marriage -- depending on how you obtain your insurance -- forever.
Having been diagnosed with the Big C, you'd never be able to get individual coverage.
flory
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Thank you flory for your excellent summary of something that I've been thinking for years!
Universal health care would unleash a nation of entrepreneurs. I 'm very VERY fortunate to have coverage and get to do some stuff I like but I know that millions are trapped in things that they loath because of that.
Why doesn't' anyone want to push that angle? Because they think it would be CHAOS! And it world to the establishment in the right wing. They can only imagine a world like that. They can only think of the poor and the immigrants sucking up their health care. The don't want to think that Bob down in production really wants to be by the artist, or Bob the social worker or Bob the inventor of great new products. Because THEY are rich or enjoy their job or they are resentful. "I hate my job and I keep doing it, why should THEY do something they like!? If you hate what you do they pay you. If you like what you do you pay them. And health care is a privilidage for those who go to work everyday hating their life because that is how the world works(unless you are rich and you earned that the good old fashion way by being a robber baron and or ripping off the government.)
Imagine people quiting jobs! Good companies would have to compete with others for workers again because millions would leave to start their own businesses.
Businesses would not disappear, lots of people still want a "job job" but lots of people would say FU to crappy jobs the are trapped in for the "benefits."
flory, more than most of us here, understands this, so I totally love that she has said that. Thank you flory.
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Res -- got it.
Tigre -- got it.
And got it again.
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I was a debater in high school and college. In debate you attempt to create the case that establishes, if not refuted, a winning argument. I believe (been a while) this is called that prima facia case.
When information is presented by someone like Dr Warren it should present a Prima Facia case in the sense that if no other information to the contrary is presented, her information should be enough to prove the question.
I think she did this in her lecture. But if you include other information, then you could have a debate about what she is saying. But there is little doubt that her presentation has a great deal of value and is without a doubt interesting and informative.
If anyone is curious, this is a link to the lecture. It is about an hour long so if you do not have time tonight and are still interested, you might want to bookmark it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a...h?
v=akVL7QY0S8A
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When I am benevolent (hah!) dictator, all sports metaphors will be banned, and we'll be using Star Trek/Star Wars/BSG metaphors.
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When I am your benevolent dictator, I will outlaw the use of any and all sports metaphors in our political discourse.
Well that's good because I'm in the mood to take someone deep all over the ball yard.
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Thers
I would love to engage in pop culture references but I have to watch Narnia
Jesus Is the Lion!
Check this out.
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universal health coverage might also force companies to treat their employees better. just imagine how many people would change jobs due to hateful and/or incompetent managers if not for the insurance issue?
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i've been saying it too. damn it would be great!
Think of how creative and productive people would be if they didn't feel stuck at their job due to health insurance?
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You want cool. Cool as all get-up.
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Zap, thank you muchly for that lovely Dolly song. I hate country music with a passion....but I happened to have met Ms. Parton, so long ago that she was still the warmup act for Porter Waggoner.
He "took ill" that night in Danville Illinois, and she did the whole show at what was then the largest venue in town, the high school theater. Had them in the palm of her hand the whole night and I heard not one murmer of regret that anybody felt cheated out of the "big name."
She didn't pose for pictures well but in candid shots was a knockout. And her tits weren't all that noticeably huge either. 
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05.03.08 - 11:27 pm | #
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And got it again.

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05.03.08 - 11:28 pm | #
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DWD, I think her case would have been stronger had she used some economists to help her interpret the data.
Today's modal family is a single person living alone, for example.
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The company matches the first 3% at 100% and the next 3% at 50%. For a small company I thought it was pretty good.It is. My suggestion, if you need to lower your contribution amount, don't go below that 3% with a 100% match. You're doubling your money. JMHO.
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many of us could double or triple our income if we weren't slaves to the health insurance game
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Universal health care would unleash a nation of entrepreneurs.
This alone is enough to terrorize the corporate assholes who are in charge.
If they have to actually compete, they know they'd lose their positions and status.
And their power.
Which terrifies them more than anything else.
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Think of it as a 4.5% raise (tax free!). Stay in if at all possible.
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Well that's good because I'm in the mood to take someone deep all over the ball yard.
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May I do the play by play?
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I always thought the reason we do not have universal health care is b/c it would give at-will employees way too much power.
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Right now I am putting in as much as I can, but in about 18 months or so I plan to buy a house, so I will probably need to cut back on contributions quite a bit, at least for the first few years until we get things settled (I won't be moving with a lot of furnishings, a lot of stuff will have to be purchased then). But yeah, it does seem like a good deal, ours is similar to yours with the matching bit.
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With my son's new job with the state they don't have a pension per se but they give him 4% of his salary in a 401K and will match up to 3% more. So if he puts 3% of his salary away he will have 10% saved. That is pretty decent I think. He should have a bunch of money in thirty years I think.
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Evening, all.
Well, here in the Paris of the Tri-State Metropolitan Area, the weather is cold (getting down to the 40s) and drizzly. This is decidedly odd for early May.
I'm sorry that's not particularly interesting either, but that's all I've got this sec.

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De nada, Xan. I frickin' love that song.
I presume that dear ol' Porter "took ill" by means of the bottle?
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.It is. My suggestion, if you need to lower your contribution
amount, don't go below that 3% with a 100% match. You're doubling your
money. JMHO.
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good advice thanks!
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Thank you!
I've always wanted to penalize anyone who used a sports metaphor in my classes. Fortunately, this year the business school began offering their watered down version of baby stats, so I don't get these assclowns anymore. I do get the occasional baseball-stats-obsessed student who plays in fantasy leagues, but they have a peculiar charm of their own.
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I found out I'm not going to get any Social Security from the Finnish government, even though I paid some in. Unless I go there and work for two more years.
Echidne |
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05.03.08 - 11:33 pm | #
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Universal health care would unleash BRAIN EATING ZOMBIES!
-GOPers
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It wasn't clear how that was defined. I have to read the book.
Echidne
There will be a test.
Spocko:
I live in fear that I'll be diagnosed with something chronic or serious. Bye-bye insurance.
I just need to make it to Medicare.
Which is getting closer and closer....
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Well, here in the Paris of the Tri-State Metropolitan Area, the weather is cold (getting down to the 40s) and drizzly. This is decidedly odd for early May.
It was 75 degrees in Moscow two weeks ago. That was pretty fucking freaky.
So sayeth the Russian lady who cuts my hair.
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fyi: wikipedia has a section in its Reverend Wright article regarding the recent controversy.
I've received some heated emails from friends who are upset with him but its not clear to me exactly what he said that was so horrible. I've seen some of his speeches and nothing really struck me as hateful.
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Oh -- res and tigre have mail
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well, i still think metaphor of a certain somebody-wanna-be-QB kneecaping her own offensive line is apt.
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I'm sorry that's not particularly interesting either, but that's all I've got this sec.
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It has been strangely cool here in central TX too. Mornings in the 50's are really odd for us as are May "cold" fronts.
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Universal health care would unleash BRAIN EATING ZOMBIES!
-GOPers
Actually, what they told me is that we are whining babies who want someone else to take care of us from cradle to grave, whereas they work hard and are rich for that reason and will never support us through our commie plans for making everyone live in factories.
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05.03.08 - 11:34 pm | #
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May I do the play by play?
ErinPDX
If I work on my ball skills I can be an impact player.
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Universal health care would unleash BRAIN EATING ZOMBIES!
I am unequivocally pro brain eating zombies.
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So sayeth the Russian lady who cuts my hair.
In old Soviet Union, hair cuts you!
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SNL a repeat again? Do they ever make new ones?
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therealhellkitty - it will drop to the upper 40's in the Dallas area. i am thrilled - i hate our brutal summers and the longer the nice weather lasts the better for my electric bill.
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well, i still think metaphor of a certain somebody-wanna-be-QB kneecaping her own offensive line is apt.
ErinPDX
I think you need to put a man on her or she'll hurt you deep.
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I am unequivocally pro brain eating zombies.
Depends on whose brain, donnit?
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I think her case would have been stronger had she used some economists to help her interpret the data.
Today's modal family is a single person living alone, for example.
Echidne
I agree. But I will say this: at least she IS talking about this as the news media and everyone else is pretty much ignoring the problem.
A few moments ago I went upstairs to get my night cup of lousy chicken soup I drink (creature of habit) and my wife had NBC on. They had an hour long investigative report on from NBC News. The subject? Some deranged guy from New England who enticed young ladies into his dungeon and kept them there for months chained up.
I am sorry. This man is a sick fuck but is he any sicker than the nation that ignores: a war predicated on lies that has displaced FIVE MILLION people and killed more than 100,000? A banking system that is being bailed out by ordinary tax payers who are getting NOTHING for their money? A president who has broken the laws of the United States and admitted it?
And on and on.
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If I work on my ball skills I can be an impact player.
Gomez
"Gomez penetrates the line, sails through the hole."
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I'm going to get a ripping $325.00 a month from social insecurity.
This is my reward for staying home and raising two children and helping my (ex)husband run a business.
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Gomez penetrates the line, sails through the hole."
ErinPDX
I'm better up the middle than around the end.
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Puppethead, I thought last week they said this week would be a new SNL. It's May, isn't this sweeps month? There aren't supposed to be any reruns now. That's what I thought, anyway.
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I am sorry. This man is a sick fuck but is he any sicker than the nation that ignores: a war predicated on lies that has displaced FIVE MILLION people and killed more than 100,000? A banking system that is being bailed out by ordinary tax payers who are getting NOTHING for their money? A president who has broken the laws of the United States and admitted it?
The local news here are all about fires and murders and an electric line falling on a road. Some of that is necessary, but there is nothing else at all.
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Some deranged guy from New England who enticed young ladies into his dungeon and kept them there for months chained up.
I deny everything. They're here to clean the furnace.
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I'm sorry that's not particularly interesting either, but that's all I've got this sec.
steve hussein simels
But your glorious presence is all we require.
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I suppose most shows are lagging because of the writers strike.
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Hasn't Kevin Phillips been writing about the collapse of the middle class for quite some time? I read American Theocracy, he predicted the inevitable burst of the housing bubble a yer or two before it happened.
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Gromit, I'd say zombies that only eat Republican brains, but they'd have to eat a lot of them to find any nutritional value, let alone a full stomach.
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In old Soviet Union, hair cuts you!

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05.03.08 - 11:39 pm | #
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therealhellkitty - it will drop to the upper 40's in the Dallas area. i
am thrilled - i hate our brutal summers and the longer the nice weather
lasts the better for my electric bill.
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Wimberley has been really beautiful this spring. The oaks are really GREEN. I had all the windows open and could smell the mountain breezes it smelled like Colorado here this morning.
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'm going to get a ripping $325.00 a month from social insecurity.
This is my reward for staying home and raising two children and helping my (ex)husband run a business.
That's part of the problem and one of the main reasons why women are more likely to be poor in old age.
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I suppose most shows are lagging because of the writers strike.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas
Not SNL, they write new every week. When they're working. And this is a repeat again tonight, Jonah Hill is guest. They opened with a Spitzer bit.
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therealhellkitty - it will drop to the upper 40's in the Dallas area. i am thrilled - i hate our brutal summers and the longer the nice weather lasts the better for my electric bill.
TEBB, grumpy female
This makes me most happy, as I am on my way back to Dallas on Tuesday.
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