I thought this thread was going to be about gastrulation. But then again, that is a pretty smart development trick...
Tralfaz |
02.02.08 - 11:28 am | #
Autgomobiles account for a seventh of the economy or so. They cost thousands of dollars a year to maintain on average. They shape, or warp, the way we live in countless ways, the tail that wags the dog. Can't live with em, can't live without 'em.
And has anyone, ever, gone out of his way to tour an especially magnificent parking lot?
ProfWombat |
02.02.08 - 11:29 am | #
Atrios should grow a thicker skin and blog about biofuel proposals by Dennis Kucinich.
NTodd, Self-Taught |
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02.02.08 - 11:29 am | #
Could we have a picture or two? I'm not sure what this "urban garage" thing looks like.
Pooleside |
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02.02.08 - 11:29 am | #
FReeper sez McCain don't stand a chance:
A well crafted analysis, but entirely useless. There’s no way McCain will ever become POTUS. If he’s nominated by the GOP, he will be doomed by the following, in no particular order of importance:
1. His age
2. His mental instability
3. His pettiness and vindictiveness toward fellow Republicans
4. His lack of campaign funds
5. His inability to rally the (conservative) base of the GOP
6. His history of cancer
7. His admitted lack of understanding when it comes to economics
But what are his good points?
Lime Rickey |
02.02.08 - 11:30 am | #
Vicki -- I'm so glad you're OK, and doubly glad that you went to get checked out.
I believe that an effective solution to traffic congestion in Atlanta would be to reduce the number of parking places in the city by half.
Residents should get first dibs, of course. But my brother has managed to live in ATL and New Orleans for years without owning a car.
Doc |
02.02.08 - 11:30 am | #
the proliferation of street level garages on major streets. I have nothing against people owning cars and understand that people want parking spots, but they really lead to the deterioration of the quality of a block
Around here, this is a self-correcting issue, as many owners of such units in the Marina district discovered in 1987.
blerb, reefer mad |
02.02.08 - 11:30 am | #
Or, put the garages underground and put restaurants, gardens, trees, stores at street level.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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02.02.08 - 11:30 am | #
Be that as it may, Atrios, I am still very grateful for the free municipal lot down near the Italian Market.
Repost, Carla Bruni, Wikipedia:
Born in Turin, Italy she grew up in France from the age of five and later attended boarding school in Switzerland. She eventually returned to Paris to study art and architecture, but left school at 19 to become a model full-time.
She is the step daughter of industrialist and classical composer Alberto Bruni Tedeschi and Italian concert pianist Marysa Borini. Actress Valeria Bruni Tedeschi is her sister. Maurizio Remmert, a businessman, has claimed to be her biological father.[1] She also had a brother named Virginio Bruni-Tedeschi (1959 - 4 July 2006), unmarried and without issue.
Marcellina |
02.02.08 - 11:31 am | #
I'm so glad you're OK, and doubly glad that you went to get checked out.
Thanks, V! Me, too. And since I work for a medical company, it was really nagging at me to do what's best for my health.
I suppose I'll have to stop drinking alcohol, though.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 11:31 am | #
atrios, if you get a permit, that means the insurance co knos the car 'lives' in philly which means $$$$$ insurance. if you have a lot, you dont need a sticker and your car can "live" in pheonixville or west chester and your car insurance is only $$
euphronius, Day Job |
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02.02.08 - 11:31 am | #
And has anyone, ever, gone out of his way to tour an especially magnificent parking lot?
Touring the parking garage at the Mall of America is an experience.
NTodd, Self-Taught |
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02.02.08 - 11:31 am | #
6 more weeks to try and have winter . . . what? There's a southern groundhog who didn't see his shadow?
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
02.02.08 - 11:31 am | #
In Minneapolis, they hollowed out an 1920's-era building with this neat sandstone finish and Egyptian-esque engravings, and built a parking ramp...facade intact.
A new low in urban development...even for this/these city/cities.
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.02.08 - 11:32 am | #
And has anyone, ever, gone out of his way to tour an especially magnificent parking lot?
Only to get an idea of how much land would be recovered by its destruction.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
02.02.08 - 11:32 am | #
Ground Hog's Day is a boggus invention worthy of nothing.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 11:33 am | #
I'm just kidding. I don't have a hog in this hunt, but I am so.sick.of.winter.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 11:34 am | #
There's poetry at the homepage for those who like poetry.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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02.02.08 - 11:34 am | #
The long-term parking at SF International Airport was a pretty remarkable experience. More cars than I've ever seen in one place, with giant jumbo jets parked all around the edges.
blerb, reefer mad |
02.02.08 - 11:34 am | #
Oprah is back campaigning for Obama. Must be going after the blue-collar demographic believing their educated voters are safe.
I don't buy a book with an Oprah sticker on it.
noblejoanie |
02.02.08 - 11:35 am | #
...groan...
I aims to please.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 11:35 am | #
whoever left the Clark the Canadian Hockey Goalie video - thank you so so much - what a freakin' hoot! can't wait to show my hockey loving buddies (that would be all of them)
have a great day -
Nuts! seriously |
02.02.08 - 11:35 am | #
hog in the auction. dog in the hunt.
euphronius, Day Job |
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02.02.08 - 11:35 am | #
Ground Hog's Day is a boggus invention worthy of nothing.
According to Gaelic folklore, the hag goddess Cailleach would gather firewood on Imbolc. If she intended to prolong winter she would make the day bright and sunny, the better to gather firewood. If Imbolc turned out overcast, it meant that Cailleach was asleep in her den and that there would be an early spring. Sound familiar?" - Daniel Deagler, The Morning Call
I like the older version better.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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02.02.08 - 11:36 am | #
FReeper sez McCain don't stand a chance:
A well crafted analysis, but entirely useless. There’s no way McCain will ever become POTUS. If he’s nominated by the GOP, he will be doomed by the following, in no particular order of importance:
1. His age
2. His mental instability
3. His pettiness and vindictiveness toward fellow Republicans
4. His lack of campaign funds
5. His inability to rally the (conservative) base of the GOP
6. His history of cancer
7. His admitted lack of understanding when it comes to economics
But what are his good points?
Lime Rickey
Lack of good points didn't save us from George Bush.
____league |
02.02.08 - 11:36 am | #
I'm just kidding. I don't have a hog in this hunt, but I am so.sick.of.winter.
I just went outside to have a smoke, and was excited by the fact that it was 25 degrees.
I'm really sick of winter, too.
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.02.08 - 11:36 am | #
I like the older version better.
Much better.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 11:37 am | #
I'm not against them altogether. Just put them in the back, off an alley.
So you know, Philly residents get cheap permit parking for on street spots, so lacking a garage or other private spot doesn't mean you can't park or require an expensive lot space.
In the 19 teens and twenties the typical Philadelphia row house grew to be what were called 'porch houses'. Entire city blocks were built with parking in the rear in garages accesible through a common driveway with 4 access points near the corners. The street parking remained. The problem after WW II was the population density was high because the houses were side by side. Many of these back driveways are so cluttered with cars that they've become untenable as useful parking areas.
It all ties to the number of units on the block and obviously, the number of cars per household. It's really variable from block to block.
That's the problem.
Bond, James Bond |
02.02.08 - 11:37 am | #
I'm enjoying this winter.
NTodd, Self-Taught |
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02.02.08 - 11:37 am | #
republican candidate analysis is defunct since george bush. there is no reason to look at their qualities because a man without any won 2 elections.
euphronius, Day Job |
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02.02.08 - 11:38 am | #
And has anyone, ever, gone out of his way to tour an especially magnificent parking lot?
I see people driving around in circles every day trying to find that space that is a few feet closer to the store, if that counts.
The lengths some people will go to in order to avoid exerting themselves even a little bit are fascinating. it's like when I go into a fast-food place, and there are cars wrapped all around the building to go to the drive-thru. I have ordered, eaten, and walked out to see the same cars just getting served.
Doc |
02.02.08 - 11:38 am | #
I don't get how papers that will clearly end up endorsing the dem in GE bother to even endorse a puke in the primary.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
02.02.08 - 11:38 am | #
Deadthreaded:
Just So You Know
I understand and see things that the rest of you couldn't possibly comprehend. Perhaps you would like to subscribe to my newsletter?
-Atrios
GWPDA was looking for her graduate student ID. And I'm missing a set of keys.
Let's see how good you are. Find those and I'll subscribe.
jac |
02.02.08 - 11:38 am | #
More hag goddesses, fewer groundhogs!
SteveNS |
02.02.08 - 11:38 am | #
I just went outside to have a smoke, and was excited by the fact that it was 25 degrees.
29 here. But we have 1/3 more snowfall than average, and double the amount from last year.
It's been cold. And icy. I fell on the ice on Thursday when I was taking the recycling to the curb, and my body aches. Add the cold weather to that, and it's brutal.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 11:38 am | #
It's sunny here on the island. I can't remember a Groundhog day when it was not sunny where I was, actually, going back to my childhood.
Tralfaz |
02.02.08 - 11:38 am | #
And all this time I thought Atrios hated California... It's garages!
cahuenga |
02.02.08 - 11:39 am | #
Take a walk around South Philly and you'll see a lot of street-level life in garages. In many ways, during the warmer months, they're like open living rooms. It doesn't change the eyesore or lack of parking issues...
Andrew |
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02.02.08 - 11:39 am | #
Lack of good points didn't save us from George Bush.
____league |
And McCain's malignant melanoma rears it's ugly head and VP Huckabee takes over. McCain would be happy to just win and let someone be POTUS.
Bond, James Bond |
02.02.08 - 11:39 am | #
I'm enjoying this winter.
NTodd
You always gotta be fuckin' disagreeable, dontcha?
Just kidding. I used to love winter. I'm glad you're making the most of it.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 11:39 am | #
And all this time I thought Atrios hated California... It's garages!
You should hear him on California garages! In the suburbs! Where people stop him and tell him what to blog about!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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02.02.08 - 11:40 am | #
They just can't help themselves:
Key Obama Adviser Mocks Clinton's Tears
More nastiness on the Democratic campaign trail ...
Our friend Peter Wallsten, writing in the LA Times, spoke with Obama campaign adviser Air Force Gen. Merrill "Tony" McPeak (Ret.)
Asked about the "gravitas" Sen. Hillary Clinton asserts that she has, and implies Sen. Barack Obama does not, McPeak disputed the notion, saying Obama has "real gravitas, not artificially created, focus-grouped, poll-directed, rehearsed gravitas."
He also said Obama "doesn't go on television and have crying fits; he isn't discovering his voice at the age of 60."
...
McPeak later retracted his remarks, and the Obama campaign said McPeak's words "crossed the line" and that Obama "strongly disagrees with these comments and apologizes on behalf of the campaign." http://blogs.abcnews.com/politic...bama-
advis.html
hadenough |
02.02.08 - 11:40 am | #
Yet another deterioration on the block. Sarkosy just married Bruni, for sloppy elevenths or whatever. Previous "gentleman callers" include Jagger, Clapton, and Trump. Vive la France, I guess.
tweedles |
02.02.08 - 11:40 am | #
CA desperately needs more water, so pretty much everybody around here is a fan of winter, to say nothing of the skiing issue.
blerb, reefer mad |
02.02.08 - 11:40 am | #
PA tourism initiative worth a look, by the way: www.groundhogduel.com Not sure how many folks it brings to down, but it's sure amusing
Andrew |
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02.02.08 - 11:40 am | #
Yeah, Vicki...it's been bleepin' cold here all winter. Five or six days where it didn't get above zero.
And now it's snowing. Oh joy.
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.02.08 - 11:41 am | #
McCain wants to win the presidency almost more than anyone I've ever watched in politics.
Actually governing? Being a leader? Not so much.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 11:41 am | #
Touring the parking garage at the Mall of America is an experience.
NTodd, Self-Taught | Homepage | 02.02.08 - 11:31 am | #
I'm assuming you mean the word "experience" in the same way the Chinese say "May you live in interesting times."
steve simels |
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02.02.08 - 11:41 am | #
Got to keep pushing Shrubs dumb ideas. Todays WaPo.
U.S. Space Plan Is Slow To Gain Acceptance
NASA turns to private firm to market Bush initiative to send Americans on voyages to moon, Mars after plan fails to win broad support.
____league |
02.02.08 - 11:41 am | #
It's 45 here and brilliantly sunny. Supposed to go up to 52!!!!!!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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02.02.08 - 11:41 am | #
I like cool weather, which is what passes for winter down here, much better than the grueling days of steamy, dripping humidity we have from May to October.
Doc |
02.02.08 - 11:41 am | #
CA desperately needs more water
We're getting plenty of water now. At least on the Central Coast.
cahuenga |
02.02.08 - 11:42 am | #
Sarkosy just married Bruni, for sloppy elevenths or whatever.
Well that was classy.
SteveNS |
02.02.08 - 11:42 am | #
You should hear him on California garages! In the suburbs! Where people stop him and tell him what to blog about!
Hecate
The Perfect Eschatonian Storm.
David Allan Coe should sing a song about the encounter.
jac |
02.02.08 - 11:42 am | #
Also, if you get tired of center city, you can always roll out to West Philly, where porches are king and the parking's plentiful.
Andrew |
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02.02.08 - 11:42 am | #
id pay $150 for a daytrip to the moon. maybe 300.
euphronius, Day Job |
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02.02.08 - 11:42 am | #
.Sarkosy just married Bruni, for sloppy elevenths or whatever. Previous "gentleman callers" include Jagger, Clapton, and Trump. Vive la France, I guess.
If she'd just made everybody sign a register after fucking her, she could have retired on that.
blerb, reefer mad |
02.02.08 - 11:42 am | #
In Taipei highrises, the manager of the building garage often actually lives in an apartment in the garage (with his family, if he has one). He is kind of a handyman and helps out the tenants with various things. They bring him gifts and things.
Tralfaz |
02.02.08 - 11:43 am | #
You can do like Vince Fumo and have the zoned space in front of your house allowing non-residents to park for more than 2 hours on Sundays only. The zone usually only restricts M-F parking.
P O'Neill |
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02.02.08 - 11:43 am | #
Hecate, Here's a (stupid) CNN poll for you:
Which is the dream ticket for Democrats?
Clinton-Obama 30% 57042
Obama-Clinton 26% 50427
Neither 44% 85651
Total Votes: 193120
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 11:43 am | #
And McCain's malignant melanoma rears it's ugly head and VP Huckabee takes over.
It was a nasty cancer, too. Am reminded of it whenever someone jokes about his chipmunk cheeks or jowliness. Had a huge chunk taken off and serious plastic surgery.
Even if they got this malignancy, I'm guessing his odds of more are much worse than those of us who didn't sit in a tiger cage in the SE Asian sun for five years.
noblejoanie |
02.02.08 - 11:43 am | #
1. His age
2. His mental instability
3. His pettiness and vindictiveness toward fellow Republicans
4. His lack of campaign funds
5. His inability to rally the (conservative) base of the GOP
6. His history of cancer
7. His admitted lack of understanding when it comes to economics
1 - Old people vote
2 - OK, that true
3 - Huh?
4 - No longer an issue
5 - HRC will yank ' away from their cheetos, Obama, not so much
6 - For the MSM, cancer will become the new healthy
7 - Phil Graham's on the case (snark), and wall street loves them some capital gains cuttin', hedge fund tax break givin' pukes.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
02.02.08 - 11:43 am | #
Touring the parking garage at the Mall of America is an experience.
It's disgusting. It's so big, that they named whole sections of it for each of the fifty states.
Meanwhile, in the city itself, we name parking garages after slain police officers and former vice-presidents.
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.02.08 - 11:44 am | #
David Allan Coe should sing a song about the encounter.
jac |
You don't have to park my car tonight darling...
But you never even call me by my name!
Bond, James Bond |
02.02.08 - 11:44 am | #
There's definitely a problem with "MF parking" in south philly, if you know what I mean.
Andrew |
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02.02.08 - 11:44 am | #
.We're getting plenty of water now. At least on the Central Coast.
cahuenga
I'll be out in it looking at houses in Walnut Creek later today. It may be raining a lot right now, but we are in a deep hole storage-wise. We still need lots more, even with the melt from this.
blerb, reefer mad |
02.02.08 - 11:44 am | #
Yet another deterioration on the block. Sarkosy just married Bruni, for sloppy elevenths or whatever. Previous "gentleman callers" include Jagger, Clapton, and Trump. Vive la France, I guess.
Wow. That's incredibly sexist. How many sexual partners has HE had? Is she getting sloppy somethings, too, or is sexual experience something that enhances men while it degrades women? Why is sex bad? And why do you even care about two people you don't even know and their sex lives? I'm really glad that I don't live inside your head.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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02.02.08 - 11:45 am | #
HRC's dream is get the Obama vote complacent that he'd be her VP choice. Ain't gonna happen.
Bjorn,a poor young country boi |
02.02.08 - 11:45 am | #
I'm assuming you mean the word "experience" in the same way the Chinese say "May you live in interesting times."
Well, mostly I meant, "Shit, did I park in the East or West side? How many fucking miles do I have to walk? Maybe I should abandon the rental car and take the bus..."
NTodd, Self-Taught |
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02.02.08 - 11:45 am | #
There's definitely a problem with "MF parking" in south philly, if you know what I mean.
Andrew | Homepage | 02.02.08 - 11:44 am | #
What do you mean?
Barbarism Begins at Home |
02.02.08 - 11:46 am | #
Last night it was pouring when I got home and now I just feel awful.
I'll take a nap.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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02.02.08 - 11:46 am | #
There's definitely a problem with "MF parking" in south philly, if you know what I mean.
Andrew |
Well there's always the center lane of Broad Street below Washington.
Bond, James Bond |
02.02.08 - 11:46 am | #
all phiadelhians instinctively try to avoid necessary bus travel.
euphronius, Day Job |
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02.02.08 - 11:46 am | #
I do wonder if we'll see backward conversions on some of these garages to living spaces. It's certainly possible.
Andrew |
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02.02.08 - 11:47 am | #
"Shit, did I park in the East or West side? How many fucking miles do I have to walk? Maybe I should abandon the rental car and take the bus..."
Rather sums it up nicely.
(Ah, there we go. Gravatar. I forgot about that.)
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 11:47 am | #
Another thing about (former) urban garages in Taiwan: many people run little breakfast/lunch places out of them. The most authentic breakfast is fried bread sticks and hot soy milk at one of these places, where there are only about four tables and they cook the food about five feet from where you eat it.
Tralfaz |
02.02.08 - 11:47 am | #
And has anyone, ever, gone out of his way to tour an especially magnificent parking lot?
ProfWombat | 02.02.08 - 11:29 am |
Well, there's a parking lot in detroit that used to be a theatre:
Hecate,
no sexism intended, really. My problem is not how many sex partners either has had, as many as they want to enjoy. I'm in the club too. But it's not exactly what you want from the president of the republic. Decorum is, at least on a public level, a virtue.
tweedles |
02.02.08 - 11:47 am | #
I'll be out in it looking at houses in Walnut Creek later today
Looking to buy?
cahuenga |
02.02.08 - 11:47 am | #
More hag goddesses, fewer groundhogs!
SteveNS | 02.02.08 - 11:38 am | #
Don't drive angry!!!!
steve simels |
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02.02.08 - 11:48 am | #
I mean like "Yo, that MF just parked in the space I was signaling for!"
Andrew |
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02.02.08 - 11:48 am | #
I think Obama would be making a mistake if he didn't accept the VP spot, if offered.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 11:48 am | #
Decorum is, at least on a public level, a virtue.
Isn't that subjective?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 11:49 am | #
I do wonder if we'll see backward conversions on some of these garages to living spaces. It's certainly possible.
Andrew |
That happened to virtually all the post WWII 'Levittown' style houses with one car garages. The garage is now a family room and the 3 or 4 cars in the family cutter the driveway and streets.
Bond, James Bond |
02.02.08 - 11:49 am | #
But it's not exactly what you want from the president of the republic. Decorum is, at least on a public level, a virtue.
Oh, for fuck's sake...
NTodd, Self-Taught |
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02.02.08 - 11:49 am | #
Looking to buy?
cahuenga
Well, I'm not looking to burgle. Prices are off almost 20%, and still softening. It's a great time to start looking.
blerb, reefer mad |
02.02.08 - 11:49 am | #
Obama can't campaign on "silver is good too." That's a death sentence for running for the gold.
tweedles |
02.02.08 - 11:49 am | #
I do wonder if we'll see backward conversions on some of these garages to living spaces. It's certainly possible.
Andrew | Homepage | 02.02.08 - 11:47 am
Behind my friend's father's house, there's an empty house. If I were able to get the house, I'd like to convert the garage, which is at the back of the house, into a florida room.
I've read of some conversions, into guest rooms, libraries, etc.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
02.02.08 - 11:49 am | #
I think Obama would be making a mistake if he didn't accept the VP spot, if offered.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 02.02.08 - 11:48 am | #
I think Hillary would be making a mistake if she didn't accept the VP spot, if offered.
I'm serious. Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama. I could enthusiastically support either ticket.
Especially if they announce they'll appoint Edwards AG.
steve simels |
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02.02.08 - 11:49 am | #
It gives hypocritical prudes like Peggy Noonan and Bill Bennett something to write about.
SteveNS |
02.02.08 - 11:50 am | #
It's a great time to start looking.
Gambler eh? Watch out for those garages, they bite.
cahuenga |
02.02.08 - 11:50 am | #
FWIW, I wasn't disparaging her for it. I'm just blown a away that one relatively unknown woman could have sex with so many ultra-famous men.
blerb, reefer mad |
02.02.08 - 11:50 am | #
The new Twins ballpark is being built around a ton of city-owned parking ramps.
They're also extending the light rail line to stop there; and the new commuter rail line will stop underneath the park. The best of all worlds.
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.02.08 - 11:50 am | #
But it's not exactly what you want from the president of the republic. Decorum is, at least on a public level, a virtue.
Why?
Why is having sex "indecorus" and why is a lack of sex "decorous" and somehow desirable??? I want a president of the republic to be getting so much sex that she/he never needs to go bomb someone to get her/his jollies, you know? But your post presumes that it's worse for a woman to be sexually experienced than for a man. So a male president is indecorous if he marries a woman who likes and has had sex? It's like the weird idea that a woman who has sex "dishonors" her family and should be killed. It's just a v. unhealthy way to think about an activity that's healthy and enjoyable.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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02.02.08 - 11:51 am | #
Right, it's totally common in older suburbs with smaller houses. I agree with Atrios that these new garages are eyesores, but they're not irreversible urban planning decisions, like tearing down all the houses and putting suburban style tract homes (which is also happening in some parts of south philly)
Andrew |
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02.02.08 - 11:51 am | #
FWIW, I wasn't disparaging her for it. I'm just blown a away that one relatively unknown woman could have sex with so many ultra-famous men.
blerb, reefer mad
There is a term for that.
Bond, James Bond |
02.02.08 - 11:51 am | #
I'm just blown a away that one relatively unknown woman could have sex with so many ultra-famous men.
Hell, I'm not famous, and from personal experience, earth men are easy.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 11:51 am | #
Isn't that subjective?
No, it is objective. People's sex life should be private. But that cuts both ways.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
02.02.08 - 11:51 am | #
I'm serious. Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama. I could enthusiastically support either ticket.
steve simels
OK, which one of you jokers is name-stealing Simels?
I mean, it's funny and all, but this is Saturday.
jac |
02.02.08 - 11:52 am | #
Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama. I could enthusiastically support either ticket.
Faints. Bangs head on coffee table. Lifts hand to forehead. "I had the strangest dream. And you were there. And you. And you. And . . ."
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.02.08 - 11:53 am | #
I'm just blown a away that one relatively unknown woman could have sex with so many ultra-famous men.
She may be unknown in America, but she is known in Europe. Her father was rich and a composer. Her sister is an actress.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
02.02.08 - 11:53 am | #
Decorum is, at least on a public level, a virtue.
tweedles
Yeah, it'd be a serious drag to have a world leader who was constantly running into objects and people with his bicycle, smashing his face into things, being weirdly inappropriate with other world leaders, joking with amputees about his own battle wounds sustained in yet another vicious assault on brush, unable to speak in coherent sentences, talking about freedumb while shredding the Constitution, talking about liberating people while killing them with reckless abandon, and generally running the country like a fiefdom and ATM machine for his cronies.
So I hope the French are paying close attention to our concerns about the decorum of their leadership.
V for Virginia |
02.02.08 - 11:53 am | #
FWIW, I wasn't disparaging her for it. I'm just blown a away that one relatively unknown woman could have sex with so many ultra-famous men.
blerb, reefer mad | 02.02.08 - 11:50 am |
Unknown to you.
In her world, she is quite well known.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
02.02.08 - 11:53 am | #
As building inspector, my sis's husband won't allow garages to be built on street in his town (Crested Butte) same reasons as Duncan.
el |
02.02.08 - 11:53 am | #
No such distinction intended. If it sounded like that, apologies. If you like, I'll be quite happy to state, she's getting a leathery, well-worn head. As for how much sex les presidents should have, as much as possible. But like I say, deocorum, or maybe I mean discretion, ain't a bad idea in that position.Whoops, did I say "position"?
tweedles |
02.02.08 - 11:54 am | #
Another story from the Red States.
BUFORD, Ga. - Two off-duty officers from different police departments wounded each other in a gun fight in the middle of a road in an Atlanta suburb, authorities said.
Phillips, who was wearing his uniform and in a marked police car, was driving to his home in Gwinnett County, police said. He was flagged down by someone who had seen Daily involved in a physical altercation with a woman in a sport-utility vehicle.
Daily, who lives in the area, was off duty and in civilian clothing but was wearing a bulletproof vest, police said.
Gimlet |
02.02.08 - 11:54 am | #
People's sex life should be private.
What is this "should" of which you speak? If people are comfortable discussing their sex lives, I say good for them.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 11:54 am | #
V for Virginia
What the good lady said.
Zap Rowsdower |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 11:54 am | #
As building inspector, my sis's husband won't allow garages to be built on street in his town (Crested Butte) same reasons as Duncan.
el
That's not a building inspector's discretion - that's up to the zoning code for the land parcel involved.
jac |
02.02.08 - 11:54 am | #
I've seen photos of McCain, hatless, standing in the unrelenting Arizona sun.
Someone with his almost albino-like skin should wear a broad-brimmed hat on those occassions.
Lime Rickey |
02.02.08 - 11:54 am | #
like tearing down all the houses and putting suburban style tract homes (which is also happening in some parts of south philly)
Andrew |
Head up to North Philly. About half the new construction (after razing entire blocks) are like small suburban tract homes of post WWII vintage. Others are mimicing the late 19th Century prexisting rowhouses. Some with, some with garages in the front. It's definitely a mix and frankly I have no clue as to which is better or worse.
As I said earlier it really depends on who moves in.
Bond, James Bond |
02.02.08 - 11:55 am | #
it'd be a serious drag to have a world leader who was constantly running into objects and people with his bicycle, smashing his face into things, being weirdly inappropriate with other world leaders, joking with amputees about his own battle wounds sustained in yet another vicious assault on brush, unable to speak in coherent sentences, talking about freedumb while shredding the Constitution, talking about liberating people while killing them with reckless abandon, and generally running the country like a fiefdom and ATM machine for his cronies.
Jeez, can you imagine?
How embarrassing would THAT be?
SteveNS |
02.02.08 - 11:55 am | #
Crested Butte
Awesome place. Little known fact: they have free lift tickets for the first three weeks of the season.
cahuenga |
02.02.08 - 11:55 am | #
Someone with his almost albino-like skin should wear a broad-brimmed hat on those occassions.
Thus, his new campaign slogan: "A Fedora In Every Pot".
Zap Rowsdower |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 11:55 am | #
Unknown to you.
In her world, she is quite well known.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
Fair enough. But that's still quite a collection of belt notches.
blerb, reefer mad |
02.02.08 - 11:55 am | #
Actually, Mrs. T tells me I was misinformed about the particular garage manager I was thinking about in Taipei. He doesn't actually live there, it just looks like he does. He has a fairly comfortable "office" that looks more like a living room with a bathroom and other home like amenities.
Tralfaz |
02.02.08 - 11:55 am | #
Welocme to San Franciso...that is the desing of the entire city. Street level garages, curb cuts and neighborhood parking.
Liars for Bush |
02.02.08 - 11:56 am | #
People's sex life should be private.
I think they should be private from governmental agencies. People wanting to discuss theirs is another story
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.02.08 - 11:56 am | #
Welocme to San Franciso...that is the desing of the entire city. Street level garages, curb cuts and neighborhood parking.
Probably why Segways are illegal there.
cahuenga |
02.02.08 - 11:57 am | #
Yet another deterioration on the block. Sarkosy just married Bruni, for sloppy elevenths or whatever. Previous "gentleman callers" include Jagger, Clapton, and Trump. Vive la France, I guess.
tweedles
And how about of a list of Sarkosy's lovers.
qlª |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 11:57 am | #
People's sex life should be private.
Why? What is it about sex that makes in wrong to be open about it?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 11:57 am | #
Unknown to you.
In her world, she is quite well known.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
Fair enough. But that's still quite a collection of belt notches.
blerb, reefer mad | 02.02.08 - 11:55 am |
Why?
And what about Pamela Harriman's collection of belt notches?
So she's slept with famous men and philosphy professers. Good for her.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
02.02.08 - 11:57 am | #
In my west philly neighborhood, I live on a large square park, so parking will probably never be an issue (except on Sundays when church is in session). That's one of the hidden benefits of protecting green space.
Andrew |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 11:57 am | #
What is it about sex that makes in wrong to be open about it?
It must be a moral superiority thing or something. I don't get it, either.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 11:58 am | #
jac, how is snot production going today, you sexy thing?
(And don't deny it. I asked Mrs. Jac. She just smiled, in a subtly gloating fashion)
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.02.08 - 11:58 am | #
Yet another deterioration on the block. Sarkosy just married Bruni, for sloppy elevenths or whatever. Previous "gentleman callers" include Jagger, Clapton, and Trump. Vive la France, I guess.
tweedles
And how about of a list of Sarkosy's lovers.
qlª | Homepage | 02.02.08 - 11:57 am
After all, this is his third marriage.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
02.02.08 - 11:58 am | #
Someone with his almost albino-like skin should wear a broad-brimmed hat on those occassions.
Layers of SPF 50 sunscreen.
noblejoanie |
02.02.08 - 11:59 am | #
I'm useless to this conversation. Where I live, we have garages that are attached and unattached to our houses.
The bucolic, midwestern grid.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 11:59 am | #
Sarkosy may have an interesting sex life, he's also taken the blocks out from under a few former pet dictatorship - such as Chad's soon to be ex-pres.
I'm useless to this conversation. Where I live, we have garages that are attached and unattached to our houses.
The bucolic, midwestern grid.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Well there are a few sub-plots going on here to which you could contribute.
Bond, James Bond |
02.02.08 - 12:00 pm | #
What is it about sex that makes in wrong to be open about it?
It must be a moral superiority thing or something. I don't get it, either.
I think it's the notion that sex is somehow "bad" (esp. for women) which springs from patriarchial dualism: body bad/spirit good, man good/woman bad, feeling bad/thinking good, enjoyment bad/suffering good. It's just v. wrong and saying that the man is getting "sloppy elevenths" is just the tip of a v. malignant iceberg.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 12:00 pm | #
What is it about sex that makes in wrong to be open about it?
It must be a moral superiority thing or something. I don't get it, either.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 02.02.08 - 11:58 am
I got the impression that was Sarkozy's point. Previous French leader's mistresses were open secrets.
But Sarkzoy has decided that's stupid. Why not be open?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
02.02.08 - 12:01 pm | #
I always tho't a ground level garage made sense, good use of space as the basement level doesn't need to be heated.
Ruth |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 12:01 pm | #
I'm just blown a away that one relatively unknown woman could have sex with so many ultra-famous men.
She may be unknown in America, but she is known in Europe. Her father was rich and a composer. Her sister is an actress.
Good singer. Played one of her songs on a podcast long ago.
NTodd, Self-Taught |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 12:01 pm | #
If you have an alley, the garage entrance can be in back, with garage windows facing the front for eye appeal.
labradog |
02.02.08 - 12:02 pm | #
As for the sex lives of public figures, it's like this: I don't need to know them. But lying about them is really irritating. I still maintain that Clinton should have said, yeah, I got a hummer, and it was great. What about it?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.02.08 - 12:02 pm | #
I think what set me off was "the Donald. Mick & Eric, that I can see. But there's something about Donald, and Viana, for that matter, that takes it to another realm.
tweedles |
02.02.08 - 12:02 pm | #
What is it about sex that makes in wrong to be open about it
There's open and then there's exhibitionism.
Frankly, I want sex to be a little mysterious. And I really don't want to know about anybody else's sex life.
It's like thinking about my parents doing it. Yuk.
Basically -- erotica is what turns me on. Pornography is what turns you on.
steve simels |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 12:02 pm | #
What is it about sex that makes in wrong to be open about it?
It must be a moral superiority thing or something. I don't get it, either.
I think it's the notion that sex is somehow "bad" (esp. for women) which springs from patriarchial dualism: body bad/spirit good, man good/woman bad, feeling bad/thinking good, enjoyment bad/suffering good. It's just v. wrong and saying that the man is getting "sloppy elevenths" is just the tip of a v. malignant iceberg.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 02.02.08 - 12:00 pm
God forbid a women be sexually experienced, and enjoyed getting that sexual experience.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins |
02.02.08 - 12:02 pm | #
Played one of her songs on a podcast long ago.
Believe it or not, I actually remember that, you moral, sexy, sentient thang, you.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 12:02 pm | #
Gotta go run errands. Talk to you lovely liberals later on, I hope. steve, I agree: Clinton/Obama would be a paradigm shift and they could govern from a place farther left than either of them alone.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 12:03 pm | #
.Why?
And what about Pamela Harriman's collection of belt notches?
1) Because those are three of Western civilization's most famous men. I am impressed.
2) I don't know anything about Pamela Harriman. If I saw her list, I'd probably be impressed too.
I disassociate myself from the pejorative aspects of the original post, which was not mine. I just didn't pay close enough attention when I was reading it.
blerb, reefer mad |
02.02.08 - 12:03 pm | #
Even Carter lusted in his heart...
NTodd, Self-Taught |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 12:03 pm | #
God forbid a women be sexually experienced, and enjoyed getting that sexual experience.
It's what separates liberal women from not liberal women. We have sex, and like it
But some posture that we're not supposed to talk about it, because that's bad.
I've learned more about the kinky in sex on this blog than I've learned in my entire lifetime. I am a heathen, and I find the study of creature comforts both interesting and insightful.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 12:05 pm | #
Annette Haven, hands down the most gorgeous porn star of all time--
Why? What is it about sex that makes in wrong to be open about it?
What's wrong with talking about it altogether. No matter who is doing the talking.
It is personal. Keep it that way. Asking for or giving advice is an entirely different matter.
It is the same as religion. It involves only the participants. Don't force it on others.
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
02.02.08 - 12:07 pm | #
Vicki, I don't think there are any 'wrong' postures. But I have to confess, some of them are LOL funny
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.02.08 - 12:07 pm | #
I think it's the notion that sex is somehow "bad" (esp. for women) which springs from patriarchial dualism: body bad/spirit good, man good/woman bad, feeling bad/thinking good, enjoyment bad/suffering good. It's just v. wrong and saying that the man is getting "sloppy elevenths" is just the tip of a v. malignant iceberg.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 02.02.08 - 12:00 pm | #
Well said.
Barbarism Begins at Home |
02.02.08 - 12:07 pm | #
The combination of Obama and Clinton would be great, and at comments on my post that Avedon put up here this a.m., attracting 1000's of hits, I have two commenters wanting to insist that there's no diff between Dems and GoPervs, that must be the latest talking pt. I said Not So.
Ruth |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 12:07 pm | #
Annette Haven, hands down the most gorgeous porn star of all time--
Delores del Rio?
"How'd ju like to see my public hairz?"
Bond, James Bond |
02.02.08 - 12:07 pm | #
What's wrong with talking about it altogether. No matter who is doing the talking.
It is personal. Keep it that way.
That is your opinion, though. You realize that, I trust.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 12:08 pm | #
It is the same as religion. It involves only the participants. Don't force it on others.
So, you ain't gettin' any?
NTodd, Self-Taught |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 12:08 pm | #
If we take away the sex talk on this blog, what the hell are we going to talk about, anyway? Music, movies, politics and Mac vs. PC only go so far
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.02.08 - 12:09 pm | #
Those street fronts look like lock-ups (or self-storage). Not fun. Kunstler would be irate.
pseudonymous in nc |
02.02.08 - 12:09 pm | #
Also, Atrios, according to NPR this morning, Philly is having problems with it WiFi system, it may never be completed, it costs $20/month and is intermittent at best. And may go down because EarthLink is pulling out--or something like that.
Whassup?
The photos you post do make your point. And every driveway on the sidewalk creates slightly different levels for wheelchairs, even just pedestrians, on the block.
jawbone |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 12:09 pm | #
You gotta wonder why there are any men at all in the red states...
SteveNS
the residents keep getting pregnant and having them, because they don't know how not to?
Ruth |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 12:09 pm | #
Music, movies, politics and Mac vs. PC only go so far
Besides, 80% of music and movies are about sex too.
SteveNS |
02.02.08 - 12:10 pm | #
If we take away the sex talk on this blog, what the hell are we going to talk about, anyway? Music, movies, politics and Mac vs. PC only go so far
Sallyh
Don't get us started on biofuels.
noblejoanie |
02.02.08 - 12:10 pm | #
Sallyh,
Where have you been? Or more accurately, where have I been?
Haven't been on-line much in the evening.
I miss your insightful comments.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 12:10 pm | #
Delores del Rio?
"How'd ju like to see my public hairz?"
Bond, James Bond | 02.02.08 - 12:07 pm | #
Vanessa del Rio: classic porn star of the 70s -- AKA the Queen of the Cocksuckers.
Delores del Rio: Stunning old school movie star, gorgeous well into her 60s and 70s (see Elvis Presley's "Flaming Star")
steve simels |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 12:10 pm | #
Oooh. Franken & Coleman in statistical dead heat.
Zap Rowsdower |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 12:11 pm | #
It is the same as religion.
And religion shouldn't be discussed around here? Because it is, sometimes to infinity. It's a fascinating discussion, too. At least to me, but I think I may be more open than you to other ideas.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 12:11 pm | #
Annette Haven was so gorgeous that Brian De Palma almost cast her in the Melanie Griffith role in "Body Double."
He would have, actually, except the suits at Paramount were paranoid about the publicity....
steve simels |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 12:12 pm | #
Vicki, teaching 5 sections, living with grandbaby and Mlle, getting over the flu, former SIL was seriously injured. I'm still around, to be sure, just not as often right now.
someday Mlle will finish school, get a job, and my house may not look as if a tornado slammed into it
Philly is having problems with it WiFi system, it may never be completed, it costs $20/month and is intermittent at best. And may go down because EarthLink is pulling out...
They, and others, are pulling out of the muni wi-fi business all over, because they can't "make money."
The photos you post do make your point. And every driveway on the sidewalk creates slightly different levels for wheelchairs, even just pedestrians, on the block.
jawbone
As I said earlier the common driveway in the back hides the ground level garages but generally requires the entire block to be done over - plus the developer loses the square footage of the common driveway. It's less likely the pricier the neighborhood real estate is.
Bond, James Bond |
02.02.08 - 12:13 pm | #
Don't get us started on biofuels.
Please, don't. NTodd considers it an invitation to start farting.
SallyH, hope all gets better soon. take care of yourself, Diane too just had a bad case of flu or cold. yerg.
Ruth |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 12:14 pm | #
between Dems and GoPervs, that must be the latest talking pt. I said Not So.
Ruth | Homepage | 02.02.08 - 12:07 pm | #
the goopers are trying to say Bush is not really a gooper...he is more like a Democrat and not really an issue
said Brad Blakeman
Liars for Bush |
02.02.08 - 12:14 pm | #
Wish I knew what to have for lunch...
SteveNS |
02.02.08 - 12:14 pm | #
In many cities, cars on the street hamper snow plowing (rare in Philly) and offer targets for theft and vandalism (yo, Philly), causing higher insurance rates. This also prevents citizens from working on their vehicles. Yes, I change my own oil, headlights, stereo, etc. Yes, I have a nice, private garage. Yes, I've had the above problems, and the additional fun of trying to find a parking spot in an unfamiliar neighborhood when my sister's Philly street became a morning rush hour route.
The biggest drawback I can see is that driveways can't be planted with trees, as sidewalks can.
mr.ed |
02.02.08 - 12:15 pm | #
Sallyh ~
Wow. You have a lot going on right now! Take care, and best wishes.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 12:15 pm | #
Oooh. Franken & Coleman in statistical dead heat.
Zap Rowsdower
Please, please let it be so! Senator Al Franken. What a concept.
blerb, reefer mad |
02.02.08 - 12:15 pm | #
1. If you leave a car parked on the stret in any major city it *will* be broken into or stolen. Garage parking is necessary.
2. Modern families need about one car per driving age family member. Admittedly one can consciously work to live with cars but most people will want cars and therefore need indoor, lockable parking.
3. Alleys are a convenient route for burglers to access a house without being seen. They are being phased out in modern developments for crime prevention.
4. street parking is public parking. There is never a quarantee that "your" parking spot will be available when you come home from work.
5. While multiple unit apartment buildings could consider a single entrance to a first level parking garage often those olld buildings aren't structurely sound for such large open space. Multiple individal garags may be the only choice.
6. Life is cruel, get used to it.
beb |
02.02.08 - 12:15 pm | #
Ouch you're right re: Vanessa vs Delores. It was all so long ago and I'm getting old!
Bond, James Bond |
02.02.08 - 12:15 pm | #
Vicki, it's all good. I've put in for more hours in the day, but my requests are ignored, along with the ones for a raise and larger classrooms
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.02.08 - 12:16 pm | #
LfB; he is more like a Democrat and not really an issue
There can be no greater insult to Dems. Deny, deny, deny.
Ruth |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 12:16 pm | #
The meeting between Arthur and Angel was not a success. She scared him silly.
Awwwhhh. Can you keep trying? It took Puck a little while to get used to Cosmo, but he ended up loving him.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 12:16 pm | #
That is your opinion, though. You realize that, I trust.
No, it isn't my opinion. It is everyone's opinion. (It's actually an idealistic standard.) How many people have said that Clinton getting a blowjob was no one's business.
Why do I know Hillary gets good head? What could I possibly do with that information?
Snow, Sombody's Gerry |
02.02.08 - 12:17 pm | #
If this is any interest to you. Please let the BOS know you do not want Imus added to the comcast lineup in SF. They have signed a national deal but local managers will decide.
Liars for Bush |
02.02.08 - 12:17 pm | #
The meeting between Arthur and Angel was not a success. She scared him silly.
.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Scholar
Oh, shit. So that's that, then?
V for Virginia |
02.02.08 - 12:17 pm | #
I thought Timmie's soups were pretty tasty.
They are, but the weather's pretty yuck and I don't want to go out.
I must have a can of soup or something around here.
SteveNS |
02.02.08 - 12:18 pm | #
I do wonder if we'll see backward conversions on some of these garages to living spaces. It's certainly possible.
Andrew
There is an upscale development fairly near where I live. Two car garages. There is one house in which they are skipping the 'use the garage as a garage' time period. There are french doors being installed where the garage doors would go.
____league |
02.02.08 - 12:18 pm | #
The meeting between Arthur and Angel was not a success. She scared him silly.
.
GWPDA
Oh dear. Are you going to try again?
qlª |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 12:18 pm | #
Snow, I think what was meant was that we got tired of hearing Clinton publicly eviscerated for getting a BJ.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.02.08 - 12:18 pm | #
1. If you leave a car parked on the stret in any major city it *will* be broken into or stolen. Garage parking is necessary.
beb | 02.02.08 - 12:15 pm | #
That's just BS. Sure it can happen, but I've parked my car for weeks in both Philly and NY without break-ins.
Barbarism Begins at Home |
02.02.08 - 12:19 pm | #
Hope too busy goes away, too, SallyH. It's been a problem I'm glad to do without now.
this time I really am outa here for awhile.
Ruth |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 12:19 pm | #
The meeting between Arthur and Angel was not a success. She scared him silly.
Did you meet at your house or away. That might matter alot to Arthur.
noblejoanie |
02.02.08 - 12:19 pm | #
The meeting between Arthur and Angel was not a success. She scared him silly.
No, it isn't my opinion. It is everyone's opinion. (It's actually an idealistic standard.)
Well, I am part of the collective everybody, and it's not my opinion, and from what I'm reading here, it does not reflect other people's opinions, either. Sometimes, I get the feeling that you enjoy lording moral authority over others. Good for you if that makes you happy, but you can't control how you think other people should think.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 12:19 pm | #
Steve, you haven't one within 500 meters?
I thought it was illegal not to have a Timmie's within 500 meters of any given location.
Why do I know Hillary gets good head? What could I possibly do with that information?
Snow, Sombody's Gerry | 02.02.08 - 12:17 pm | #
I'm with you. I don't think that's a requirement for an informed citizenry....
steve simels |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 12:20 pm | #
To be honest, I was never all that wild about Sacher Torte. Dobos torte, on the other hand, or Hazelnuss torte, that's another matter.
blerb, reefer mad |
02.02.08 - 12:20 pm | #
Simels--why would Hillary take the VP spot? Wouldn't she have more clout as a senator with added gravitas from her run--AND be able to vote and work her more liberal ideals, since she wouldn't be looking toward a WH run again (men can run as old geezers like McCain, but women probably cannot--the aging looks thing. Unfair, but there)?
Obama can use the VP slot to make his run for the presidency, and he avoids the added baggage of more votes and compromises in the Senate.
That's my theory at least.
jawbone |
Homepage |
02.02.08 - 12:21 pm | #
Snow, I think what was meant was that we got tired of hearing Clinton publicly eviscerated for getting a BJ.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
I recall the TV stations claiming that like the OJ coverage, people said the Clinton BJ story was just too much. The stations claimed that the ratings soared around the coverage of the 2 stories contrary to what people said.
Bond, James Bond |
02.02.08 - 12:21 pm | #
1. If you leave a car parked on the stret in any major city it *will* be broken into or stolen. Garage parking is necessary.
2. Modern families need about one car per driving age family member. Admittedly one can consciously work to live with cars but most people will want cars and therefore need indoor, lockable parking.
3. Alleys are a convenient route for burglers to access a house without being seen. They are being phased out in modern developments for crime prevention.
4. street parking is public parking. There is never a quarantee that "your" parking spot will be available when you come home from work.
5. While multiple unit apartment buildings could consider a single entrance to a first level parking garage often those olld buildings aren't structurely sound for such large open space. Multiple individal garags may be the only choice.
6. Life is cruel, get used to it.
beb
This is, hands, down, the stupidest fucking post of the day. And the funniest.
jac |
02.02.08 - 12:21 pm | #
beb | 02.02.08 - 12:15 pm
Wow - every talking point complete and utter bullshit.
Why do I know Hillary gets good head? What could I possibly do with that information?
Nobody is talking about Hillary's sexual activity. If Hillary wants to discuss it, fine.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 12:21 pm | #
Ain't Over [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
Rasmussen has national polls tied.
Since Florida:
Wed: Romney 29 McCain 27
Thurs: Romney 29 McCain 27
Friday: Romney 28 McCain 30
Saturday Romney 30 McCain 30
Why don't you talk about sucking cock?
Is it because Mitt wouldn't let you blow him even if it guaranteed him a victory?
Lime Rickey |
02.02.08 - 12:21 pm | #
Our gentle, sweet, friendly border collie walked around snarling and drooling like the exorcist for the first few weeks after the poodle pup came home. They ultimately became the best of friends.
noblejoanie |
02.02.08 - 12:21 pm | #
I thought it was illegal not to have a Timmie's within 500 meters of any given location.
Closest one's almost a kilometre away from my house.
I don't think they enforce that law around here.
SteveNS |
02.02.08 - 12:22 pm | #
Arthur has quite a few new squeaky toys. And a very nice new blankie.
GWPDA
Well, I always thought you should get a cat. Get a cute little kitten that won't be a threat to great big hulking guy like Arthur. He won't even notice as she grows up and eventually runs the joint.
qlª |
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02.02.08 - 12:22 pm | #
Steve, that's just so wrong.
It's cold up there, for Chrissakes. Timmie's is a necessity for keeping the blood from freezing.
Our gentle, sweet, friendly border collie walked around snarling and drooling like the exorcist for the first few weeks after the poodle pup came home. They ultimately became the best of friends.
noblejoanie
Just had to make it clear who was boss.
blerb, reefer mad |
02.02.08 - 12:23 pm | #
How many people have said that Clinton getting a blowjob was no one's business.
It was nobody's business if he didn't choose to share it.
Why do I know Hillary gets good head? What could I possibly do with that information?
You could decide she will be happy and relaxed, which is important in a world leader.
NTodd, Self-Taught |
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02.02.08 - 12:23 pm | #
Only here would people be fighting about the merits of on street parking and/or public knowledge of blow jobs.
qlª |
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02.02.08 - 12:25 pm | #
Interesting, from the main page at Teh Great Pumpkin:
HISTORICAL COSTS OF U.S. WARS (In 2007 Dollars)
World War II $3.2 trillion
Iraq and Afghanistan To Date $695.7 billion
Vietnam War $670 billion
World War I $364 billion
Korean War $295 billion
Persian Gulf War $94 billion
Civil War (both Union and Confederate costs) $81 billion
Spanish-American War $7 billion
American Revolution $4 billion
Mexican War $2 billion
War of 1812 $1 billion
Source: Congressional Research Service and Office of Management and Budget data.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 12:25 pm | #
.Why?
And what about Pamela Harriman's collection of belt notches?
1) Because those are three of Western civilization's most famous men. I am impressed.
2) I don't know anything about Pamela Harriman. If I saw her list, I'd probably be impressed too...
Timmie's is a necessity for keeping the blood from freezing.
They're likely making an even bigger fortune than normal out west these past few weeks.
For me this year, December was worse than January.
February is usually the worst, though.
SteveNS |
02.02.08 - 12:25 pm | #
I moved to St. Lou which is defined by the back alley. Its kind of neat see how they are used as children's soccer fields and play grounds.
smarty jones |
02.02.08 - 12:26 pm | #
ql, that's what makes this place the crack den that it is
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.02.08 - 12:26 pm | #
This is funny.
Only here would people be fighting about the merits of on street parking and/or public knowledge of blow jobs.
qlª
At some point someone will tie the two together, we'll find closure and move on.
noblejoanie |
02.02.08 - 12:26 pm | #
NTodd:
Just out of curiosity, are you left handed?
aangus: acute sinusitis |
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02.02.08 - 12:26 pm | #
Oh, it looks like San Francisco.
And if you think I'm parking the BMW on the street, you're out of your fucking mind.
tekel |
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02.02.08 - 12:26 pm | #
Re: The photos A. added to the thread
The bright pale yellow garage doors are probably not a real good color selection for a traditional brick elevation.
Bond, James Bond |
02.02.08 - 12:27 pm | #
Just out of curiosity, are you left handed?
I believe when it comes to masturbation, he's ambidextrous.
At some point someone will tie the two together, we'll find closure and move on.
I gave my ex-paramour from San Franciso and incredible blow job in the parking garage near Ghiradelli's.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 12:27 pm | #
1. If you leave a car parked on the stret in any major city it *will* be broken into or stolen. Garage parking is necessary.
I parked my car over weekends and during the week in Boston for years and never had it broken into or stolen. Did have it towed once because it was on the wrong side of the street during street cleaning--it was my ex-gf's sister's car, though.
2. Modern families need about one car per driving age family member.
Modern families can learn to carpool like mine did. And consider that part of the larger issue is that our lifestyles, which are in some ways choices rather than necessities, contribute to climate change and incessant warfare.
6. Life is cruel, get used to it.
Like you've gotten used to hearing people call you a brainscrambled nerf sucking fartsmeller with a penchant for chicken molestation?
NTodd, Self-Taught |
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02.02.08 - 12:28 pm | #
Just had to make it clear who was boss.
Yes. Angel. No, there won't be any further interaction - Arthur was about half an inch away from taking out her throat and I don't believe that would be desirable. Angel's reaction, in as neutral a location as possible, was instant hostility - and as she had already easily associated with four other dogs in the household it was pretty obvious it was personal.
Only here would people be fighting about the merits of on street parking and/or public knowledge of blow jobs.
qlª
At some point someone will tie the two together, we'll find closure and move on.
noblejoanie
If you are getting a blow job while in a car it is probably a good idea that the car is parked in a garage rather than out on the street.
____league |
02.02.08 - 12:28 pm | #
Also about St. Lou:
Obama is coming tonite and will be speaking at the huge Ed Jones Stadium.
The Mittster is coming tomorrow and will be speaking at the local Dave & Busters.
smarty jones |
02.02.08 - 12:28 pm | #
afternoon all.
I see GWPDA's newest bubeleh was not a big hit. :-( Don't give up, GWPDA!
madamab |
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02.02.08 - 12:28 pm | #
I believe when it comes to masturbation, he's ambidextrous.
I prefer my right hand, but the left will do on its days off.
NTodd, Self-Taught |
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02.02.08 - 12:29 pm | #
NPR reported this morning that McCain who has been anti-choice for his entire political career received a high percentage of votes from people who are pro-choice--and think he is. He got a high percentage of votes from people who want us out of Iraq ASAP, even tho' he is Mr. Hundred Years' War.
Analysts thought it was bcz the MCM so often refers to him as "moderate" and "maverick" that voters think he does break with the ReThugs and will in the future as well.
Do not underestimate the power of the MCM--they decided the past two presidential elections (with help from Theresa LaPore's butterfly ballot in FL and then the Supreme Five's decision to give FL to BushBoy--but wihtout the doubt created by the MCM, Gore would be president right now. And the WTC towers might still be standing. And...oh hell).
jawbone |
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02.02.08 - 12:29 pm | #
Simels--why would Hillary take the VP spot? Wouldn't she have more clout as a senator with added gravitas from her run--AND be able to vote and work her more liberal ideals, since she wouldn't be looking toward a WH run again (men can run as old geezers like McCain, but women probably cannot--the aging looks thing. Unfair, but there)?
Obama can use the VP slot to make his run for the presidency, and he avoids the added baggage of more votes and compromises in the Senate.
That's my theory at least.
jawbone | Homepage | 02.02.08 - 12:21 pm | #
I'm not saying it's likely, just that it would be a good idea.
Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton.
I'm there. Especially with Edwards as AG.
steve simels |
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02.02.08 - 12:29 pm | #
Modern families can learn to carpool like mine did. And consider that part of the larger issue is that our lifestyles, which are in some ways choices rather than necessities, contribute to climate change and incessant warfare.
That's what we're doing. Carpooling, taking the bus, making changes to leave less of a footprint.
It's less expensive, too.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 12:29 pm | #
smarty,
Obama's gonna be here today, as well. And Mittens and HRC tomorrow. And Ron Paul on Monday.
Take that back--might have been BBC report on McCain and his unlikely supporters. Beeb reporter told about talking to guy who going on and on about need to get out of Iraq--and then told reporter he voted for McCain in the MI primary.
jawbone |
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02.02.08 - 12:30 pm | #
Source: Congressional Research Service and Office of Management and Budget data.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
The Gulf War number is suspect. The US didn't pay for the entire war (in fact only a small fraction of the total). I recall the corrected number as $12 billion for direct costs to the US.
???
Bond, James Bond |
02.02.08 - 12:31 pm | #
GWPDA probably has a million more visitors in her fair city today than usual....
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 12:31 pm | #
steve simels - my goodness! we agree on the HillObama - BaraHill Dream Team? Woooohooooo!
hubby thinks that Barack should be pres and she should be VP. his theory is that she can be the tough one while he can be President Kumbaya.
anything's possible at this point, I guess.
madamab |
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02.02.08 - 12:31 pm | #
Modern families can learn to carpool like mine did. And consider
that part of the larger issue is that our lifestyles, which are in some
ways choices rather than necessities, contribute to climate change and
incessant warfare.
Monsieur has a carpool partner. On days when I don't have to take the baby to school, I can take the shuttle to work from the train station, which is within walking distance. Now when I have to actually go into the city or to Pasadena, I take the train. it's not a complete transformation, but it's a start in a car dominated town.
hubby thinks that Barack should be pres and she should be VP. his theory is that she can be the tough one while he can be President Kumbaya.
oy the Dick Cheney model
Liars for Bush |
02.02.08 - 12:33 pm | #
Daggum it, you're right as rain! Why, before the world went to hell in a handbasket, all people had to do was hitch a horse to a post and watch out where they stepped. Hell in a handbasket, I tell you!
JW |
02.02.08 - 12:33 pm | #
Big rig drivers see a lot of blowjobs in motion.
Breaker breaker sixty niner.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 12:33 pm | #
I don't want to live through another 1968. Goddess, FSM, ether, please keep them all safe.
noblejoanie |
02.02.08 - 12:33 pm | #
The Gulf War number is suspect. The US didn't pay for the entire war (in fact only a small fraction of the total). I recall the corrected number as $12 billion for direct costs to the US.
The chart doesn't claim that it's direct cost to the US. Simply tallies "costs of US wars."
NTodd, Self-Taught |
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02.02.08 - 12:33 pm | #
Big rig drivers see a lot of blowjobs in motion.
Lime Rickey
Most of them are probably not moralists who would call the cops.
____league |
02.02.08 - 12:34 pm | #
Should I warn all the candidates visiting Saint Louis that we lead the nation in Chlamydia and Gonnorhea?
What Happens in St. Louis Doesn't Stay in St. Louis!
smarty jones |
02.02.08 - 12:34 pm | #
oy the Dick Cheney model
Liars for Bush
yeah, he kinda likes the idea.
I'm more on the side of Hill as Pres, partially because of her age (60) and partially because I think we need someone tough at the helm to throw down with the Goopers. plus I think Obama needs some more time in office before he takes the helm.
madamab |
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02.02.08 - 12:35 pm | #
Should I warn all the candidates visiting Saint Louis that we lead the nation in Chlamydia and Gonnorhea?
What Happens in St. Louis Doesn't Stay in St. Louis!
Even I have my limits. That is not safe. One at a time please.
____league |
02.02.08 - 12:36 pm | #
I gave my ex-paramour from San Franciso and incredible blow job in the parking garage near Ghiradelli's.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | 02.02.08 - 12:27 pm | #
Well, that knowledge is going to make my weekend at Eschacon a little itchy...
steve simels |
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02.02.08 - 12:37 pm | #
I gave my ex-paramour from San Franciso an incredible blow job in the parking garage near Ghiradelli's.
The Great War was not a 'US War'. The figure given is for the total Allied and opposition costs for the war. As of 1980, the US is still owed $12,083,291,413.00. Cuba, Finland, Liberia and Nicaragua and San Marino have paid off their debt however.
plus I think Obama needs some more time in office before he takes the helm.
madamab
And better chances for him to become prez in 8 years, if he's veep now. Good for him, and good for us.
Marcellina |
02.02.08 - 12:38 pm | #
BTW, It appears that Obama is fading in the stretch.
The Rasmussen poll stretches her lead by 2 to seven.
For now it looks like its gonna be Hillary.
Gomez |
02.02.08 - 12:38 pm | #
Mother Jones' Blog thinks Obama might run into some difficulty getting the Hispanic vote. Does anyone know if this is just hype, or is there really a historic split between the black and Hispanic communities?
madamab |
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02.02.08 - 12:38 pm | #
Big rig drivers see a lot of blowjobs in motion.
Breaker breaker sixty niner.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
They've seen a couple of mine, I'll wager. What a couple of wild individuals we were.
(68 -- he owes me one.)
V for Virginia |
02.02.08 - 12:39 pm | #
Well, that knowledge is going to make my weekend at Eschacon a little itchy...
I was just kidding. Just trying to make the point noblejoanie brought up.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 12:39 pm | #
I'm more on the side of Hill as Pres, partially because of her age (60) and partially because I think we need someone tough at the helm to throw down with the Goopers. plus I think Obama needs some more time in office before he takes the helm.
madamab | Homepage | 02.02.08 - 12:35 pm | #
It works for me either way. I think they'd be unbeatable, and that it would give them the freedom to govern left as a result.
Seriously -- their win would represent such a seismic shift it would be unarguable.....
steve simels |
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02.02.08 - 12:39 pm | #
And better chances for him to become prez in 8 years, if he's veep now. Good for him, and good for us.
Marcellina
Clinton and Obama (alphabetical) cannot win on the same ticket. It would be suicidal.
The MSM is selling McCain as a moderate maverick straight talker. People believe it. In the Florida exit polls, Republicans said they were disappointed in Bush, but they approved of his administration.
We have a huge job ahead of us. We will win, though.
Man, Nick Sarkosy rolls big..that dude has freakin balls of steel:
---
French President Weds Ex-Supermodel
Posted: 50 minutes ago
Filed Under: World News
Nicolas Sarkozy married former model Carla Bruni at the Elysee Palace, according to the official who performed the ceremony.
Hank Essay |
02.02.08 - 12:40 pm | #
The Great War was not a 'US War'.
It is in that the US participated, which is the point being made as to costs of major wars we've been involved in.
NTodd, Self-Taught |
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02.02.08 - 12:40 pm | #
Steve Simels, what led to this seismic shift in your thinking? Up to just the other day you were mercilessly bashing Hillary.
Marcellina |
02.02.08 - 12:40 pm | #
Nicolas Sarkozy married former model Carla Bruni at the Elysee Palace, according to the official who performed the ceremony.
Hank Essay
You don't say!
V for Virginia |
02.02.08 - 12:41 pm | #
Mother Jones' Blog thinks Obama might run into some difficulty getting the Hispanic vote. Does anyone know if this is just hype, or is there really a historic split between the black and Hispanic communities?
I can't remember who it was (I think Kevin Drum's stand-in over at WM), but he was thumping that pretty hard yesterday; saying that all Latino families have pictures of RFK hanging in their living room.
It was some powerful stupid.
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.02.08 - 12:41 pm | #
Clinton and Obama (alphabetical) cannot win on the same ticket. It would be suicidal.
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT! Ooooooh, no, wrong, sorry.
CNN's Wolf Blitzer then followed up by asking Clinton: "Senator Clinton, your health-care plan is estimated it will cost $110 billion annually. You want to tax the rich to pay for that; is that what you're saying?" Clinton responded: "Well, let me say that the way I would pay for this is to take the Bush tax cuts that are set to expire on people making more than $250,000 a year."
The correct response would have been: "Leslie, I'm going to tax the living shit out of overpaid asswipes like you."
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
02.02.08 - 12:42 pm | #
I don't think it is a matter of "can't get the Latino vote" as much as many in the Latino community especially in California made their choice a long time ago. Obama is trying to spin it as buyer's remorse but I'm not seeing that. People like the mayor of LA and Delores Huerta seem very comfortable Clinton.
Liars for Bush |
02.02.08 - 12:42 pm | #
HISTORICAL COSTS OF U.S. WARS (In 2007 Dollars)
The Great War was not a 'US War'.
Exactly my point about the Gulf War. If the chart was meant to show the total cost of all wars to all nations involved in which the US particpated then I wonder what's the point? American Civil (almost 100%) vs Gulf War (10%)
I suspect it is being understood as the cost of these wars to the US.
It should have been more clearly stated if that's what they meant.
Bond, James Bond |
02.02.08 - 12:42 pm | #
There were people holding "Latinos for Obama" posters in the televised crowds before the last debate.
Marcellina |
02.02.08 - 12:43 pm | #
I just asked the question about black and Latino communities, because I've often been told that blacks and Jews hate each other.
As a lifetime Joooo, I've never experienced that in any way, shape or form. So I was wondering if it was a yucky urban myth or not.
madamab |
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02.02.08 - 12:43 pm | #
have pictures of RFK hanging in their living room.
It was some powerful stupid.
Zap Rowsdower
Clinton has a ad with RFK's kids and a lot of pictures of Bobby talking about why they support here.
Liars for Bush |
02.02.08 - 12:44 pm | #
Steve Simels, what led to this seismic shift in your thinking? Up to just the other day you were mercilessly bashing Hillary.
Marcellina | 02.02.08 - 12:40 pm | #
I think a Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton presidency would encourage the best tendencies in both of them. Plus I think they would absolutely cream any Republican.....
I'm still not thrilled about either of them solo.....
steve simels |
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02.02.08 - 12:44 pm | #
Republicans said they were disappointed in Bush, but they approved of his administration.
These are people who are frankly too fucking stupid to be allowed to live.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
02.02.08 - 12:44 pm | #
As a lifetime Joooo, I've never experienced that in any way, shape or form. So I was wondering if it was a yucky urban myth or not.
If the chart was meant to show the total cost of all wars to all nations involved in which the US particpated then I wonder what's the point?
That this war, which is shouldered almost exclusively by the US in terms of personnel, materiele and finances, is fucking expensive relative to all other wars, and a shitty ROI to boot.
NTodd, Self-Taught |
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02.02.08 - 12:45 pm | #
Cuba, Finland, Liberia and Nicaragua and San Marino have paid off their debt however.
Any idea of what the remaining UK dept is?
aangus: acute sinusitis |
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02.02.08 - 12:45 pm | #
It appears that Obama is fading in the stretch.
Well, I did notice yesterday a front pager at Orange Satan talking about "whoever wins Tuesday, the REAL battle will be on March 11." Made me think they'd heard something they didn't like.
That this war, which is shouldered almost exclusively by the US in terms of personnel, materiele and finances, is fucking expensive relative to all other wars, and a shitty ROI to boot.
You know what irks me about this war? Well, on of many things, but the fact that we, the people, have not been asked to buy into this war with monetary and physical sacrifice makes it so easy for them to run it the way that they want.
If we're not paying (and we are paying, but we're not consciously paying), they don't have to be accountable for their actions.
It's very sad.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 12:48 pm | #
all right bats and battistas, time to look at some apartments. Have a great weekend!
madamab |
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02.02.08 - 12:48 pm | #
I would love, love to see a Clinton/Obama ticket. Gets out the young who are excited by Obama, minorities and women. Works for me. And I think Steve is 100% correct. It would create a dynamic that neither can summon on their own.
qlª |
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02.02.08 - 12:48 pm | #
Fer crap's sake.
Just heard a Ron Paul ad on my radio.
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.02.08 - 12:48 pm | #
saying that all Latino families have pictures of RFK hanging in their living room.
How would anybody know that?
Lime Rickey |
02.02.08 - 12:48 pm | #
Obama/Clinton, vice versa, either way, a much better "unity" ticket...
nick carraway |
02.02.08 - 12:49 pm | #
Who ordered sheets?
Bond, James Bond |
02.02.08 - 12:49 pm | #
obama supporters there not new sheets everyone else: Sheets!
hadenough |
02.02.08 - 12:49 pm | #
Sheets, ya moralizing crackheads.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
02.02.08 - 12:50 pm | #
all Latino families have pictures of RFK hanging in their living room.
Radio is playing some techno dance song, the lyrics of which I translate here —
"Bettina, put your breasts back in, Bettina please put something on."
On that note, I am off to work for a few hours. Leter, lovely people.
Marcellina |
02.02.08 - 12:51 pm | #
saying that all Latino families have pictures of RFK hanging in their living room.
How would anybody know that?
Lime Rickey
Ellos preguntaron a Papá Noel
(if incorrect that is what you get for using free translation services)
____league |
02.02.08 - 12:52 pm | #
I for one do not think that Hillary would be happy as a VP. She's already spent 8 years in the Whitehouse as an extra to a President.
Bad Art |
02.02.08 - 12:59 pm | #
I remember an Inquirer series many years back where they did Actual Reporting on this and found that most of those street-level garages were (surprise, surprise) illegal! Turns out the since-indicted state Sen. Vince Fumo was leaning on the zoning board, IIRC, to rubber-stamp them without the required hearing process.
Now, did they change the law since then, or did Vince simply go on his merry way? I wonder...
Susie from Philly |
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02.02.08 - 1:13 pm | #
Atrios...you don't have a car. While permit parking may be cheap, driving around certain parts of center city for 25+ minutes anytime after 6pm looking for a spot is very common. I am a developer and no one wants to buy a house without a parking spot or a garage. I recently built 2 house right next to each other. The expensive one with the garage sold much faster than the cheaper one with no parking. We have had lots of interest and the feedback is always, "love the house but we wish it came with parking."
jill |
02.02.08 - 1:32 pm | #
hey atrios
those all look at least like they're trying to resemble a stable, which is probably what the original inhabitants of your city would have referred to as "parking".
slappy mcbutterpants |
02.02.08 - 1:57 pm | #
Tax curb cuts. Heavily. And use the proceeds to upgrade ped/bike/transit infrastructure.
Yucca |
02.02.08 - 2:03 pm | #
The privately owned automobile is the enemy of civilization.
gordonminor |
02.02.08 - 2:07 pm | #
Well, this blog has been different. Sex and Saturdays and Snow all mix so well.
Surprised no one hinted with any inuendo at the possibilities of a threesome with a HRC/Bill/ Obama. tickee.
Even imagining it would give the fundies a new hole to dig in.
vox clamantis in red state |
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02.02.08 - 2:26 pm | #
no sexism intended, really. My problem is not how many sex partners either has had, as many as they want to enjoy. I'm in the club too. But it's not exactly what you want from the president of the republic.
So no sexism intended, except where heads of state are concerned, in which case you're happy to be incredibly sexist?
Dan |
02.02.08 - 2:37 pm | #
I usually agree with your take on things urban, but parking on the street is not a right. In fact it is one of the greatest urban giveaways. If you must have a car living in the city, pay for parking. I do agree that multiple driveways/garage doors on a block is not pleasant to look at. Development like this has been encouraged in NYC to keep people from moving to the burbs. (private parking=safe parking)
Like your blog. Don't get your panties bunched up over this one.
tony |
02.02.08 - 2:45 pm | #
Those are indeed butt-ugly.
kc |
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02.02.08 - 3:26 pm | #
Too bad developers couldn't have made an alley way at the rear of the buildings with garages facing the alley.
Even here in Michigan some older urban neighborhoods with free standing houses have alleyways where garages are located. Some of the nicer of those old neighborhoods have really distinct look because there are no driveways to be seen from the street.
In my old neighborhood there was an abbreviated alleyway and a row of little one stall garages. They were mostly unused because more than half the families in the neighborhood didn't own cars.
cal1942 |
02.02.08 - 3:26 pm | #
The biggest problem with this - frankly, in my mind, the only problem - is that it actually takes away street parking. Net net, there are less places to park than there were beforehand. That being said, everyone has the right to build themselves a parking space in a home they own.
greebs |
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02.02.08 - 3:49 pm | #
Not to take away from your criticism, because I do agree with you on aesthetics, but you do know that the zoning codes in Phila. require parking with new construction, right? In fact, you need a variance to build without it.
Even more important, for the community groups whose support is crucial for larger scale development approval, parking is typically issue #1 in pre-development negotiations.
/ Morty
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02.02.08 - 4:03 pm | #
the groundhog in my neighborhood didn't see his shadow...he was run over by a car. not kidding...it broke my heart. too many cars in this world, not enough groundhogs.
samlex |
02.02.08 - 4:19 pm | #
thanks for the pix.
Pooleside |
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02.02.08 - 4:20 pm | #
Much of San Francisco is like what Atrios notes. One thing - these garages eliminate a lot of on street parking.
Spud1 |
02.02.08 - 4:32 pm | #
I don't care.
Jesus H Christ |
02.02.08 - 4:46 pm | #
You should run for mayor Atrios! all of the city's problems would go away!!!
Fan |
02.02.08 - 4:47 pm | #
You'd think Philly would shore up its zoning laws to prevent this. Doing so would not deter people from moving there.
AikeaGuinea |
02.02.08 - 5:01 pm | #
Design wise, the addition of the garage door in the 20th century to the front elevation of any building was the worst architectural element ever introduced.
dave N |
02.02.08 - 5:46 pm | #
Hmm, I think that second picture actually looks rather pretty. If it didn't pose a danger to pedestrians and looks to be rather dangerous exiting from I'd support the architecture.
MNPundit |
02.02.08 - 7:52 pm | #
I don't know why people parrot the idea that garages are a danger to pedestrians. I've never heard one report of a car/pedestrian/garage mashup. Never happens. It might in theory, but it doesn't in practice.
When developers tried to put 18 new homes with garages in front at 18th & Catherine, we proposed a different solution through SOSNA zoning committee, and now they all have parking in the back. It looks better, but the street's just as dead. Nobody uses their front doors.
One of the problems is that L&I staff is telling developers that each new house needs a garage. They're wrong, but they pass this on, nevertheless.
BillP |
02.02.08 - 10:19 pm | #
My gripe is that the loss of street parking spaces often exceeds the number of off-street spaces provided in the development. Developers should be required to provide a pre-development plan of the affected block, to show the number of existing street parking spaces for comparison with the total number of spaces post-development.
To use the lower photo as an example: As long as there is adequate curb space in front of the paired entry steps for a street parking space, it's OK, aesthetics not withstanding.
buma |
02.03.08 - 8:04 am | #