I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarI didn't know half that stuff.

http:// freewayblogger.blogspot.c...niasaroyan.html

I drive a lot.


GravatarSee Video: War Crime Sold By Neocon Deception, IMPEACH NOW! Read about UPI reporter revealing what Neocons told him before the war.


GravatarOBAMA '08!


Gravatarhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=7kV5XkBQsKU


GravatarGoodnight Johnboy


GravatarNow that we've saved the world, how do we figure out the tip ?


GravatarDoug, 20% for excellent service?


GravatarG'night, all. And thanks again.


GravatarNow that we've saved the world, how do we figure out the tip ?
Douglas Hussein Watts


20% unless the service was really bad


Gravatarscarlet, you live in L.A.?

We'd give up sex for a year for better cars, because we spend so much time in them.


Gravatarbeverage to sallyh


GravatarMatthew owes me a fizzy beverage.

Lime and seltzer, por favor


GravatarThank you, Sally. You are correct.


GravatarOld Man, how's my second favorite geek?


Gravataryou and your dad take care now, phila

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GravatarOld Man, how's my second favorite geek?

I'm doing fine thanks!

I loved seeing your pics of Maddy


Gravatarre-elect barack in 2012!

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Gravatargoodnight bats

sleep well


GravatarI have finished the sweater for my brother. It's fantastic, though perhaps not the best birthday present for someone in July.


GravatarIf I haven't been a victim of identity theft, is that because nobody likes me?


Gravatarre-elect barack in 2012!

Woot!


GravatarI have finished the sweater for my brother. It's fantastic, though perhaps not the best birthday present for someone in July.
Echidne


a good sweater is always giftworthy, regardless of season

ok, really gone now


GravatarOld Man, isn't she gorgeous?

I am definitely biased in this regard, btw.


GravatarEchidne, do you have, perhaps, a photo of said sweater?

Since we in PDX are still wearing sweaters (approx 56 degrees high temp today - so weird), we would be grateful for the image


GravatarIf I haven't been a victim of identity theft, is that because nobody likes me?
Douglas Hussein Watts

nope - just luckin' fucky!


GravatarOld Man, isn't she gorgeous?

I am definitely biased in this regard, btw.


She is, and you should be!


Gravatarbuenas suerte, phila.


GravatarSarah Deere, how are you my sweet?
I've turned the furnace off and back on twice this spring. The clouds can't be helping Phila either.


Gravatarechidne

yes, a certain poster did, and ErinPDX is the only person here who gave that certain poster any shit for it.

my eternal devotion to ErinPDX was at that point pretty much absolute.

but this is all in the past now. Re-Elect Obama in 2012.


Gravatar{{{Sarah!}}}


GravatarEchidne, it was pretty heinous actually.


GravatarHere, Sarah Deere. It's the one the guy is wearing. I made it in sky blue wool


http://thumbsnap.com/v/6y0qCdEW.jpg


GravatarI hear ya, Erin. I've actually had the GD heat on, feeling so weirtd about it. Wearing polarfleece. Jeebus!!!!


GravatarOld Man, her dad's been a royal pain in the ass, but last night he (finally) let us watch her without him being there. And, we're paying for 75% of her day care.

I hope that his lawyer and Mlle's can work it out so that he isn't the one supervising her visits with her daughter. I'm going to leave that one alone. That's what lawyers get paid for.


GravatarWell, as I sad in the previous thread, such behavior will bring the pox.


Gravatarhi sallyh grandmere - I live pretty much on the road... passing through LA tomorrow though - keep an eye out.


GravatarWearing polarfleece. Jeebus!!!!
Sarah Deere

yeah, i'm ready to shed this Laura Bush look. But damned that fleece is comfy.


GravatarScarlet, will do!


GravatarI hear ya, Erin. I've actually had the GD heat on, feeling so weirtd about it. Wearing polarfleece. Jeebus!!!!

Wish we could send you some of our excess heat. Today was a break--it was only 95.


GravatarErin, I believe I recall the incident of which you speak. Your smackdown was well done.


GravatarI hope that his lawyer and Mlle's can work it out so that he isn't the one supervising her visits with her daughter. I'm going to leave that one alone. That's what lawyers get paid for.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


these things are hard on the kids involved. when i was a kid i thought my father's middle name was "that son of a bitch"

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GravatarSounds like things are heading in the right direction at least Sallyh!


Gravatar"mary, called magdalen, from whom seven demons had gone out"

a good theme for us all right now

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GravatarThank you Sallyh.
As you said earlier, so much of this is because of the bushies. Everyone is so desperate to get them the hell out so we can heal. We can't lose this time.


GravatarTacitus, I don't think Maddy's dad badmouths her mom to her (although I can't swear to it). I know Mlle has kept her thoughts about her ex silent from Maddy. Maddy loves both of her parents. The one thing the two of them cannot do is denigrate the other.


GravatarMy brother is getting a night in a bed-and-breakfast place as a birthday present, too. Except that it's in Italy and rated as the most gorgeous b&b in the whole world. Hee.


GravatarOld Man, going to therapy with Mlle tomorrow--I think that's a positive.


GravatarErin, I believe I recall the incident of which you speak. Your smackdown was well done.

I only saw the comments in question after the fact, and was very disappointed as I used to have a great deal of respect for the poster in question. I didn't see Erin's smackdown however.


GravatarEchidne - that is a gorgeous sweater!!!!!


GravatarThanks, Sarah Deere. It looks better in reality, actually, because the model in that pic is scrunching it up a bit.


Gravataroh man, don't want to relive it
eye on the prize and such

hugs mrs. i


GravatarSarah Deere is just as spunky in person as she is on this blog.


GravatarThe one thing the two of them cannot do is denigrate the other.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


a beautiful thing

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GravatarSallyh, as you may know my brother's wife died unexpectedly last Fri 5/30. I was in LA 5/31-6/5, being with him, and my son was there too. One of the things I tried to do was to keep her extremely weird (and acquisitive) family away from my bro as he tried desperately to come to grips w/his grief. It was a lot like watching a newborn giraffe struggle to its feet and learn to run within minutes across the veldt to escape the predators.


Gravataroh man, don't want to relive it

me neither. I lub me kidds too much, and I lubb that they will have a President who they can look up to.

Obama 08


GravatarOld Man, it was very unfortunate. Erin was very dignified about it, but I'd never seen her so angry. She was right to be as well.


GravatarScarlet P.

Safe for work but not neocons

http://fffff.at/fuckflickr/data/ ...ohg_sheilds.gif

More here:
http://fffff.at/fuckflickr/Silic.../SiliconValley/


Gravatart was a lot like watching a newborn giraffe struggle to its feet and learn to run within minutes across the veldt to escape the predators.

Good grief. If it's that bad now, I hate to think what probate's going to be like for him....


GravatarSarah, you've had a year. And you're never self pitying. I don't know how you do it.


GravatarDamn, two hours later, contemplating whether to click on the evening's vid (alas, from Atrios of the execrable taste rather than Echidne) reminds me of why I came in in the first place: Did anybody watch "House" on USA network tonight? I think it's the one that was on Fox earlier in the week but can't get that channel so don't know.

It's the one where Wilson's girlfriend comes to pick House up at a bar because he's shitfaced, and for some reason they wind up on a bus and anyway she winds up dead. They had two songs that played during the show and both were most excellent and I was wondering if anybody knows what they were.

I used to have a site that listed details for "House" episodes including music, but it's either lost or taken down leaving me in ignorance.


GravatarAnd so to bed. Blessed be, beloved friends.


GravatarSarah Deere is just as spunky in person as she is on this blog.
ErinPDX

oh, fiddlesticks, Erin - I'm just a kindly little old geriatric


Gravataroh, fiddlesticks, Erin - I'm just a kindly little old geriatric

Hee!


GravatarGood night Sallyh!

Time for me to go too

night all!

Re-elect Obama in 2012!


GravatarSallyh, you know - and have demonstrated time and again that you know full well - one either laughs or cries, and more often than not, we do both. This is a good place to find our bootstraps, eh?

Love ya, dear - sleep well.


GravatarThis is a good place to find our bootstraps, eh?

No wonder I'm in such difficulty... I ain't got any (least not since I gave up workboots for sneakers).


GravatarNight Sally....oh, and that lemon poundcake? It fell on the floor, dreadful accident, terrible shame. But I cleaned it up for you, don't worry. But that's what happened to it, really.


Gravatar
damned if i didn't sound ageist there.
sorry about that


GravatarGood night, all. Sleep well.


Gravatarpeaceful dreams, awakened ones

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Gravatarmontag :-D


Gravatardamned if i didn't sound ageist there.
sorry about that
ErinPDX


Indeed. Ageism is the worst thing in the world, right up there with sexism and racism and homophobia and political flip-flopping and mentioning that someone is a cancer survivor etc.

I would say we should remember this but we are going to be reminded of it every other minute for the next (...counts on fingers, June-November, um) six months so we are probably not likely to forget.

Mentioning somebody's age is ageism. It's that simple. Let's never ever do it, except to condemn it.



GravatarOkay, that was a little incoherent. Anti-John McQuaint rant if this was not clear. Probably an indication I should also go and pass out. Night all.


GravatarMentioning somebody's age is ageism. It's that simple. Let's never ever do it, except to condemn it.

Hmm. Guess that means McCain gets a pass, eh?


GravatarAgeism

Hmm. Guess that means McCain gets a pass, eh?


No there's enough reasons to dislike McCain without using his age as one of the reasons.


GravatarYou know, I've always hated Grease 2, but a quarter century later, this number's not half bad. I mean, it's silly, but aren't musicals supposed to be silly?


GravatarNo there's enough reasons to dislike McCain without using his age as one of the reasons.

McCain on 60 Minutes: "Yes, you are right, I am a war criminal."


GravatarAgeism.....I'm okay with some of it. McCainnis too fucking old to be preznit. Really. He's too fucking old in his own mind, you see?


GravatarYou know, I've always hated Grease 2, but a quarter century later, this number's not half bad.

I've just recently gotten to the point of tolerating the first Grease. I've never seen the second.


GravatarNo there's enough reasons to dislike McCain without using his age as one of the reasons.

Age, frankly, ought to be a consideration, as demanding as the Presidency has become over the years. The days when, as in the Calvin Coolidge years, a President could sleep eleven hours a night and take naps during the day (hence Dorothy Parker's remark when told of Coolidge's death, "how could they tell?") are long, long gone.

I don't get too excited over discussions about age, because it's something we all deal with in one way or another, either with ourselves, parents, whatever.

What I do know is that as long as one's mentally sharp, there's no reason to be denied any work that requires mental alertness. Same with physical work. Fine, if one's capable of it.

The issue of ageism comes to the fore when one is discriminated against solely and arbitrarily on the basis of age.

But, all other issues aside, the Presidency is physically and mentally demanding, and wearing. Electorally, it's a consideration, because being up to that level of stress is a job requirement.


GravatarTattoo


The light is like a spider.
It crawls over the water.
It crawls over the edges of the snow.
It crawls under your eyelids
And spreads its webs there--
Its two webs.

The webs of your eyes
Are fastened
To the flesh and bones of you
As to rafters or grass.

There are filaments of your eyes
On the surface of the water
And in the edges of the snow.

-Wallace Stevens


Gravatarmontag, Word.


Gravatar-Wallace Stevens

I really wanna see an insurance executive these days write stuff like that....


GravatarWhen people see some things as beautiful,
other things become ugly.
When people see some things as good,
other things become bad.
.
.
If you overesteem great men,
people become powerless.
If you overvalue possessions,
people begin to steal.

-lao tzu, tao te ching

http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.ed...s/taote- v3.html

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GravatarIf you overvalue possessions,
people begin to steal.

just like now.


GravatarFill your bowl to the brim
and it will spill.
Keep sharpening your knife
and it will blunt.
Chase after money and security
and your heart will never unclench.
Care about people's approval
and you will be their prisoner

- more lao tzu

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GravatarIf you overvalue possessions,
people begin to steal.

just like now.


Hmm. Makes me think of Mark Twain's remark: "It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress."

Of course, Twain never had the opportunity to meet George Bush and Dick Cheney....



GravatarOf course, Twain never had the opportunity to meet George Bush and Dick Cheney

When the Master governs, the people
are hardly aware that he exists.
Next best is a leader who is loved.
Next, one who is feared.
The worst is one who is despised.

If you don't trust the people,
you make them untrustworthy.

The Master doesn't talk, he acts.
When his work is done,
the people say, "Amazing:
we did it, all by ourselves!"

- lao tzu


Gravatarmontag, there have been fewer - if any - truly bad people than Bush/Cheney et al. Certainly not in my lifetime - but I'm including all history. These guys are eithyer at the top, or very fucking close. I think these miscreants would have even astonished Twain.

Tacitus.....this is what divides us from the Others. That we believe these things to be self-evident, yet difficultly won knowledge. Doesn't make me especially smart or even enlightened - just an introduction to common sense.


GravatarWhen the country falls into chaos,
patriotism is born




should have re-read old lao sooner

didn't remember that he was so interested in explaining american politics to us

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Gravatar(º)(º)


GravatarOne who excels as a warrior
does not appear formidable.

-Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

(I prefer to read the word "warrior" in the context of a Shambala warrior, or someone who is fully engaged in life.)


GravatarIf you overvalue possessions,
people begin to steal.

a-fucking-men!~~~~~!!!!!!


GravatarThat we believe these things to be self-evident
Sarah Deere


yes, obvious things

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Gravatarwell, goodnight, you deliciously delightful and dear and wonderful people. After a challenging week, I believe I will rest myself for a while, then spend tomorrow with birds and squirrels as much as I can. I think I'll let the world spin on without me for a while.

Sweet dreams to you all.

XXOO/SD


Gravatartake care and be well, sd

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GravatarEvery ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business.

Mission accomplished!


GravatarI think I'll let the world spin on without me for a while.

Steinbeck: "Once again, the world was spinning in greased grooves."



GravatarEvery ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business.

Mission accomplished!
Michael Leeden


Thought that was "Ledeen."

But, who knew that Ledeen was being ironic when he said that. Not even Ledeen, I'll wager....


GravatarSee Video: Neocons Perle, Feith, Libby and others pushed for Iraq War


GravatarGratuitous waste of technology.

http://www.festo.com/INetDomino/ ...2d60033d076.htm

I like it!


Gravatar
Cuba now offers free sex-change operations for its citizens.


... meanwhile, in the U.S., dismembered soldiers have to prove that they served in Iraq before they get any treatment.


GravatarWant to know who's going to be starting the next wars, whether we like it or not?

Maybe, these guys:

http://www.commondreams.org/arch...008/06/04/9456/


Gravatarmy cat is the best taoist

he does not strive to leap, he merely wishes he was there

he would never think of leading - there is so little to see when in front

he never has a destination, the smells are too interesting right here

if you know where you are, become lost – now you will see new things

if you make what you intended, throw it away and make something you never thought of

if you finish something, how boring! find a way to be not done so you have something to do


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GravatarI saw Diesel at $5.15 a gallon today


GravatarMy cat's breath smells like poetry.


GravatarIt's 5:31 am, why I am awake?


Gravatarhttp://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/...IT0489558% 2Ejpg


Gravatarhttp://pix.botany.org/conant/ca0...a06- 005_700.jpg

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GravatarAw, jaysus, that's a beetle big enough to direct traffic.


Gravatarhttp://paranoidlinux.org/


GravatarAw, jaysus, that's a beetle big enough to direct traffic.

That was a beetle? I thought it was Bill Bennett.


GravatarBob Herbert: Savor The Moment.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/0....html?th& emc=th


GravatarThat thing was an extra in Starship Troopers , wasn't it?


GravatarI'm still wondering about the plants that look like cacti with an open mouth....

Plantsman, I don't think we're in Kansas any more....


GravatarWell, I went to the doctor
I said, "I'm feeling kind of rough"
He said, "I'll break it to you, son [Warren sings, "Let me break it to you, son"]
Your shit's fucked up."
I said, "my shit's fucked up?"
Well, I don't see how-"
He said, "The shit that used to work-
It won't work now."

I had a dream
Ah, shucks, oh, well
Now it's all fucked up
It's shot to hell

Yeah, yeah, my shit's fucked up
It has to happen to the best of us
The rich folks suffer like the rest of us
It'll happen to you


GravatarMorning peeps.

BD, how's the daughter. I hope the song isn't in response to your recent medical procedure.


GravatarMan, tornados last night around us did some major damage.


GravatarLT justed passed, I'm sorry to say.


GravatarLooks like the power's still on.


GravatarBD, how's the daughter. I hope the song isn't in response to your recent medical procedure

That's Wed morning, sweetie (thankfully). Kid - well, we're still not getting the truth from her.

We need to stop by on our way home this afternoon, and see what the fuck, over.


GravatarLooks like the power's still on

10 Miles N or W and things are fucked up quite badly.


GravatarGlad they missed you guys. That system has been a bear for days.


GravatarQL - that's an old Warren Zevon song:

"My Shit's Fucked Up"

I heard it last night on Sirius (along with a Springsteen version of "My Ride's Here").


GravatarDHAKA (AFP) - Stores in the Bangladeshi capital have stopped selling subsidised rice, an official said Saturday, creating hardship for hundreds of thousands of poor consumers.

Rice prices almost doubled in the impoverished nation due to shortages caused by floods and a devastating cyclone last year that created a food crisis, and this year's bumper harvest has failed to bring down prices.


GravatarI heard it last night on Sirius (along with a Springsteen version of "My Ride's Here").
Barndog, nice and cool | 06.07.08 - 6:11 am | #

Do you listen to Howard ?


GravatarHere's a story & pics from last night:

http://www.lansingstatejournal.c...EWS01/ 806070339


GravatarDo you listen to Howard ?

Momentarily so far. I like Howard's show - obviously it's gotten a bit out of control in recent times - but as a former radio dj - I like the stuff he does. He's very innovative with his schtick.


GravatarBarndog, nice and cool | 06.07.08 - 6:18 am | #

I'm a fan, but I like his pre-divorce (


GravatarMiss you already. That thing you wanted done: done.


GravatarI'm a fan, but I like his pre-divorce

Yeah, that really fucked up his world.


GravatarI'm a fan, but I like his pre-divorce -
Pre-1999 stuff the most. He was much more innovative. On Sirius, he's free to do what he wants, which kind of takes away from the true "naughtiness" of his FM days.


GravatarOn Sirius, he's free to do what he wants, which kind of takes away from the true "naughtiness" of his FM days.

Exactly.


GravatarHe had a great interview with Rosie O'Donell the other day. He's an amazing interviewer in his ability to get people to open up.


GravatarAnd with his current contract, the guy grosses $2 Million a show. And a 4 day work week.


GravatarGilly - I gotta tell you; radio is a cutthroat business.

Met some of the coolest people, and some of the biggest assholes in radio too.

I could do a satellite gig though, without any issue.


GravatarI could do a satellite gig though, without any issue.
Barndog, nice and cool | 06.07.08 - 6:29 am |

You should then!


GravatarGuess it was more than coincidence that those cranes fell.

The city’s chief crane inspector was arrested Friday and charged with taking bribes to allow cranes under his review to pass inspection and for taking money from a crane company that sought to ensure that its employees would pass the required licensing exam, the authorities said.

The man, James Delayo, the acting chief inspector for the Cranes and Derricks Unit at the city Department of Buildings, was in charge of overseeing the issuance of city licenses for crane operators.

He is also facing charges that he provided a copy of the crane operator’s exam and the test answers to a crane company in exchange for $3,000, said an official involved in the case, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the charges had not yet been formally filed.


GravatarAwright, gotta schlafen. Peace out, Atriots


Gravatar'morning, pipples!


GravatarThat's a great article by Bob Herbert.

We tend to forget, looking back in our rose-colored glasses to the 60s, how horrific they actually were to blacks, and how demoralizing to women.

We sure deserve to savor this moment. As a country and especially as Democrats.


GravatarActually the City of New York has taken great pains to point out that the inspector accused of taking bribes oversaw truck-mounted cranes rather than "tower" cranes, like the two that collapsed.


GravatarMorning and shit, V.


GravatarOh, FYI it was 92 here yesterday.


Gravatarthe inspector accused of taking bribes oversaw truck-mounted cranes rather than "tower" cranes, like the two that collapsed.
plantsman,


Good point but it raises the question of "one bad apple" or a culture of corruption in the agency.


Gravatar92 and humid I don't mind missing. Here, it was supposed to be sort of clear today. That's changed.


GravatarLooks like you got that air online just in time, Barndog!


GravatarNo doubt. I'd be crossing streets to avoid any crane I saw.


GravatarLooks like you got that air online just in time, Barndog!

Boy, Howdy we did. And, just in the nick of time.


GravatarBD: the only thing I can think of WRT the daughter situation is to tell her, kindly, "You know, sweetie, your life is really a mess right now, and you know it. If there's anything we can do help when you decide to start a new and better phase, we'll be happy to do it. Unfortunately we're not going to be able to help you keep things fucked up."


GravatarLocal DFH committee (DFA, which would be about 8 people) sent me an e-mail saying that Obama wants to replace FL's elected delegates with "wealthy contributors" who are latecomers.

WTF?


Gravatar"You know, sweetie, your life is really a mess right now, and you know it. If there's anything we can do help when you decide to start a new and better phase, we'll be happy to do it. Unfortunately we're not going to be able to help you keep things fucked up."

Indeed, V. We're supposed to stop by this afternoon on our way home from open houses. I'm going to tell her to meet us at our friend's house - which is a couple blocks from their place.

If I go to his house, I'm highly likely to go to jail, and that ain't happening.


GravatarMore people are spreading more crap about the Obama campaign than I can believe. If they have hard facts to back up those claims they should be easy to verify.


GravatarWTF?
V for Virginia,
*
what plantsman said.


GravatarMore people are spreading more crap about the Obama campaign than I can believe

And, I'll lay odds that it gets even worse with the months to come.


GravatarHaving an altercation could provide the daughter a reason to get her hackles up and dig in her heels --
but I'm sure you realize that.


GravatarIf I go to his house, I'm highly likely to go to jail, and that ain't happening.

From experience, BD, it ain't worth the momentary satisfaction.... Smart move.


GravatarGood plan, BD. I hope she gets back on track soon. It must be hell to see them struggling and not have the power to MAKE them turn it around. I know the hell my BFF has been through with her daughter; OTOH that kid is doing muuuuuuuch better now, so there's hope.


GravatarHaving an altercation could provide the daughter a reason to get her hackles up and dig in her heels --
but I'm sure you realize that.


Yes indeed I do. And, like I said, I refuse to go to jail for some dumbfucker.


GravatarThere's a really dense fog moving in. Heat index today should be about 100°

No disc golf.


GravatarDefinitely have to catch up on this thread. Morning, gang. BD, glad to see you're okay. Anybody heard from Vicki or DWD?


GravatarWhat an unpleasant situation. Good Luck.


GravatarBarndog, nice and cool
*
Please remain cool and don't get in trouble cuz you're nice, sorry to hear of trouble with the kiddo.


GravatarMy biggest issue V - is that she's never done anything bad. I mean, outside the little bullshit as a teenager (stayed out until 4 am while in middle school, and the cops caught her and 2 GF's).

Outside of that, she's a good damm kid. Now, I see it as he has manipulated her into doing shit she's never concieved of before.

For that, he needs his ass kicked but good by this Marine. But only on MY terms.


Gravatarfrom e-mail:

On Saturday, Allan Katz of Obama for America insisted on the campaign's right to replace Florida's elected Obama delegates at the convention. The Obama delegates in Florida are committed activists who have made personal, professional, and financial sacrifices over the last seventeen months to support Senator Obama, and then they were elected by the voters in their Congressional Districts. Replacing them with some latecomers who happen to have more money would be a betrayal of us long-time supporters of the Senator, and a betrayal of everything we thought the Senator stood for.

These are big-time Obama people (since Edwards dropped out), so I don't see their percentage in spreading bullshit. Requires further investigation, I guess.


GravatarBD, glad to see you're okay. Anybody heard from Vicki or DWD?

filk - 10 miles west and 10 miles north got nailed by tornados.

Luckily, we skated through with just torrential downpours.


GravatarBeen through the wars with younger daughter. She's fine now. Sometimes you really just have to back away and let them figure things out for themselves.

BTW, I attribute my gray hair to her, not to age.


GravatarNancy - thanks. It's just a fucked up situation that's got to be worked through.....without me going to jail of course.


GravatarBTW, I attribute my gray hair to her, not to age.
qlª


It's put a few years on BFF, no doubt about it.


GravatarSorry about the drama w/your daughter, BD. Good luck with it.


GravatarThe "who have more money" bit isn't substantiated as far as I can see, it's just a blind accusation.

FWIW


Gravatarfilk - it's not the drama per se.

It's the trip through the judicial system thats awaiting her. I really don't want to see her go to jail, but, at the same time - if it needs be, then so be it.


GravatarObama is about control. He probably wants to be able to control the message. Still, probably not such a good thing. If true.


GravatarIs there some way to check what people convicted of what she may be charged with receive as punishment most of the time?


GravatarBD -- not knowing the details, and not needing to know the details unless you feel the need to spill, I'll just say: I have not been there myself, but I have known people who have, and, yeah, it sucks but sometimes it's what has to happen. Again, many good thoughts and hugs your way.


GravatarThe FL and MI delegations are still under sanction, it may have something to do with that, too.


GravatarIs there some way to check what people convicted of what she may be charged with receive as punishment most of the time?


I'm waiting to talk to a couple lawyer friends. Not having anything on her record, she'll fare much better than her worthless BF (who has been arrested at LEAST 5 X this year so far). Don't know for what, but I have a good idea.


GravatarThey've been doing what we've been doing -- sitting back while, apparently, our side beats the shit out of itself. Now that Obama's the man, they will throw anything and everything at him. Some shmuck on Fox referred to Barack's and Michelle's touched fists as a possible "terrorist fist jab".

Don't be surprised to hear about Obama's secret voodoo rituals, mummified kittens in his basement, or secretly buying Canadian drugs because (since they're available closer to the North Pole) they get you higher.


GravatarThose fools on Fox say the nuttiest shit!


GravatarYup, it's gonna be plug ugly. They'll keep flinging shit and for those looking for an excuse not to vote for an A.A., some of it will stick. That's all they need to do.


GravatarSome shmuck on Fox referred to Barack's and Michelle's touched fists as a possible "terrorist fist jab".

Yanno, I think this crazy-ass shit is played. There's no way people can ignore the consequences of listening to these lunatics spout about earth-tones, elitism and green tea, and I don't think it's gonna fly.

Unless. Unless Something Bad happens. Which make me extremely nervous.

Otherwise, as long as O keeps McLame grafted to WPE like a conjoined twin, they've got NOTHING.


GravatarSaw a couple Hummers while out and about yesterday -- they already look like such anachronisms.


Gravatarplantsman -- that was in the Media Matters story Atrios linked to last night. Someone in the comments there already said they want to start a band with that name. I may have to write a song about it. Sounds like a finishing move from Mortal Kombat.


GravatarMcSame voted as George Bush wanted 95% of the time in 2007 -- it was Tweety's "Big Number" yesterday.


Gravataras long as O keeps McLame grafted to WPE like a conjoined twin, they've got NOTHING.
V for Virginia, discouraged | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 7:08 am


Here's hopin', love. The really weird thing is how they keep clinging to their nothing as if it's everything.


GravatarI may have to write a song about it.

YESSSSSS!


[seconds pass]


Where's my TFJ song? Where's my TFJ song? Where's my TFJ song?


GravatarSometimes the funny writes itself:

Former NRCC Treasurer Embezzled $500,000, Court Papers Say

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...0603827_pf.html


Gravatarflik - heard a couple Warren Zevon tunes last night - "My Shit's fucked Up", and "My Ride's Here" - the latter done by Springsteen live.

I'm really enjoying Sirius.


GravatarThe really weird thing is how they keep clinging to their nothing as if it's everything.
filkertom


Them clinging to it and people buying it are two different things. I hope.

UNLESS.


GravatarSaw a couple Hummers while out and about yesterday -- they already look like such anachronisms.
plantsman, | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 7:09 am


Don't they, though? And I bet those Hummer limos are real popular from now on as well. (I have never figured those out at all. Why pay what I presume are premium limousine rental prices for a fuckin' crackerbox on wheels? No style, man.)


GravatarFormer NRCC Treasurer Embezzled $500,000, Court Papers Say

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...0603827_pf.html
Monica_A: Dammit!


[falls off chair and rolls on floor laughing]


GravatarWhy pay what I presume are premium limousine rental prices for a fuckin' crackerbox on wheels? No style, man.)

Style is doing the limo thing in the back seats of a 1957 Chevy Nomad wagon.


GravatarV4VA -- I love you, have I mentioned that lately? [hugs]

BD -- yeah, I caught that upthread. And I agree. I love early Zevon. First time I heard the live cut of "Stand In The Fire" -- whoa.

Might be getting a satellite radio myself soon. FSM knows I'm on the road enough to justify it.


GravatarSometimes the funny writes itself:

Former NRCC Treasurer Embezzled $500,000, Court Papers Say

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...0603827_pf.html
Monica_A: Dammit! | 06.07.08 - 7:11 am


[facepalm] They can't help themselves. That must be it. They simply cannot help themselves.


GravatarV for Virginia: say Something Bad happens.

Who's in charge now? Why, Mr. Bush and his crackerjack top men.

If there is another Osama-sponsored attack, it may mark the death of the GOP.

Dubya has had seven years to track Osama down. Has he done it? Hell, no.

Oh, I grant you that if they were to get lucky and nab OBL before election day, it would probably get McCain another few states. But that ain't gonna happen. And a few states ain't gonna get the job done for the Red Brigade.

If Barack is breathing come election day (which I fully expect), it's going to be the photographic negative of 1972. Watch.


Gravatar[falls off chair and rolls on floor laughing]

It's so funny, isn't it? They even steal from themselves.

No honor among thieves, eh?


GravatarIf Barack is breathing come election day (which I fully expect), it's going to be the photographic negative of 1972. Watch

Pretty good fucking point there, David. I like the analogy used.


GravatarGotta love this letter in the NYT:

I agree with the call to action in “Fairwell, Fair Weather,” by Charles M. Blow (column, May 31), but perhaps we can look elsewhere for guidance.

Mr. Blow suggests that we “declare a coordinated war on climate change akin to the wars on drugs and terror.” I suggest we model our efforts on an endeavor that was actually successful.

Rob Kurth
Millbrook, N.Y., May 31, 2008


GravatarNo honor among thieves, eh?

Never amongst republicans.


GravatarNice image, David. And, honestly, what could McSame say? Even if OBL is caught, it's not like Johnny's going to be the one going cave-to-cave to find him.


GravatarAs the campaign stuff about Obama, and his family, and everyone he's ever known and associated with get more and more over the top, the only people who're really going to respond to that are the dead-enders who can't be reached anyway, and their numbers are at an all-time low.

People see the media circus much more clearly these days... the attacks on Hillary got so bad that even she gained widespread sympathy although her campaign effectively dissipated that.

It's not going to be pretty or inspiring, but it's not going to work.

Good morning.


GravatarAndrea Mitchell certainly got plenty of mileage with her live-shot with a garbage truck in front of Clinton's DC home.


Gravatar? Even if OBL is caught, it's not like Johnny's going to be the one going cave-to-cave to find him.

Oh, but I have $1000 that says he acts like it.


GravatarAndrea Mitchell certainly got plenty of mileage with her live-shot with a garbage truck in front of Clinton's DC home.

Too bad she wasn't as interested in the shredder truck at the Cheney official residence....


GravatarEven if OBL is caught, it's not like Johnny's going to be the one going cave-to-cave to find him.

Oh, but I have $1000 that says he acts like it.
Barndog, nice and cool | 06.07.08 - 7:20 am


No. Effing. Bet.


GravatarEven if OBL is caught, it's not like Johnny's going to be the one going cave-to-cave to find him.
filkertom


*click*
"Okay, this one's me at the Gates of Hell..."
*click*
"Uh, Gates of Hell from another angle..."
*click*
"Here I am asking Charon for directions..."


GravatarI have a feeling executing KSM and the guys from Guantanamo is gonna provoke a hellish reaction.


GravatarToo bad she wasn't as interested in the shredder truck at the Cheney official residence....

Well, that was just a tandem semi box trailer shredding operation.


GravatarNo. Effing. Bet

Dammit. Go out on the edge sometime, Bro.


GravatarSteveLG | 06.07.08 - 7:22 am



GravatarDubya has had seven years to track Osama down. Has he done it? Hell, no.

he ain't looking in saudi arabia which is where is probably is...you know, the country where lots of folks know how to fly jumbo jets


GravatarToo bad she wasn't as interested in the shredder truck at the Cheney official residence....

Given this administration's paranoia and secrecy, it's a distinct possibility that there will be little or nothing to put in the Bush library.


GravatarIf Barack is breathing come election day (which I fully expect), it's going to be the photographic negative of 1972. Watch.
David Derbes, ochen' pissed.


Well, your keyboard to the mighty tentacles, of course.

I just 1. can't convince myself of how folks would react to another Bad Thing, and 2. am long past the place where I think there's something they'll stop at.

But in my upswing rapid-cycle periods I agree it's gonna be a massacre.


GravatarDammit. Go out on the edge sometime, Bro.
Barndog, nice and cool | 06.07.08 - 7:24 am


Are you kidding? There's less chance of grass being green than there is of McSame taking credit for something he didn't do.


GravatarYell Geronimo, beaches!

Baby let's go!
~


GravatarThere's less chance of grass being green than there is of McSame taking credit for something he didn't do



GravatarSome of the neighbors are having a yard sale in our cul de sac... I hate yard sales. I hate putting them together and I hate the people who're already up and around at six-thirty in the morning to paw over shit and offer you a nickel for something.

I've been known to say things like: "I'll throw it in the trash rather than give it to you for pocket change... why don't you come back on trash day and go through our garbage?"

I was invited not to participate in yard sales at my former abode, by my former wife, who'd take anything or nothing for my stuff but wouldn't part with anything of hers.


GravatarI just 1. can't convince myself of how folks would react to another Bad Thing, and 2. am long past the place where I think there's something they'll stop at.

But in my upswing rapid-cycle periods I agree it's gonna be a massacre.
V for Virginia, discouraged | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 7:25 am


I do not want another terrorist attack. (The fact that, as with the "Saddam is a bad guy, no question", thing, we are forced by the nature of the conversation to preface everything with that is beyond insane.) But if another one happens on Bush's watch, McSame goes down. Period. All you have to say is, "It's Bush's watch. McCain supports Bush's policies, Bush's tactics, Bush's philosophies of government. And we got hit. Again. On Bush's watch. You want some more o' that?"


Gravatarit's a distinct possibility that there will be little or nothing to put in the Bush library.

how about a diorama depicting the pretzel-choke?


GravatarI've been known to say things like: "I'll throw it in the trash rather than give it to you for pocket change... why don't you come back on trash day and go through our garbage?"

Are you any relation to my family?


GravatarYard-sale people are a breed apart, recommend you hide for the duration.


GravatarGiven this administration's paranoia and secrecy, it's a distinct possibility that there will be little or nothing to put in the Bush library.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮ | 06.07.08 - 7:24 am


Two Archie comics, some old Texas Rangers baseball cards, and a carefully preserved collection of The Complete Works Of Bazooka Joe.


Gravatarhow folks would react to another Bad Thing

It would be their final and ultimate failure.

"They kept you safe after 9/11" is the only thing they've had to keep the lizard-brains pacified. If, at last, they can't even do that?


Gravatarow about a diorama depicting the pretzel-choke?

Greatly improved by some Disneyland animatronics, I think....


Gravatar"They kept you safe after 9/11" is the only thing they've had to keep the lizard-brains pacified. If, at last, they can't even do that?
SteveLG


still doing it: mclame has a new ad called 'safe' where he talks about his family's warmongering


GravatarMorning, rational folks.


GravatarHugs, Diane.


GravatarI've been known to say things like: "I'll throw it in the trash rather than give it to you for pocket change... why don't you come back on trash day and go through our garbage?"

Ah; my strategery is the opposite. I figure it's going in the trash/being donated anyway, so my philosophy of negotiation is, "If someone offers you something, take it."

But our last two were a complete waste of time, I must say. Except that it forced me to do some serious weeding out of the stuff in here.


Gravatarhow about a diorama depicting the pretzel-choke?

Greatly improved by some Disneyland animatronics, I think....
montag | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 7:31 am


"It's a smHORK- it's a smHORK-"


Gravatarstill doing it: mclame has a new ad called 'safe' where he talks about his family's warmongering
mogwai | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 7:31 am | #


I don't suppose the ad mentions blowing up the USS Forrestal.
~


GravatarTwo Archie comics, some old Texas Rangers baseball cards, and a carefully preserved collection of The Complete Works Of Bazooka Joe.
__

Who's who in the NRA and first edition of My Pet Goat


Gravatar"It wasn't me -- it was my jet."


GravatarAre you any relation to my family?
Barndog, nice and cool




I hope so.


GravatarI don't suppose the ad mentions blowing up the USS Forrestal.
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ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© |


Or the several jets he crashed.


GravatarWhen I was selling the house, I bartered things away with some people. You want the mower, will you cut the grass till the house is sold? That sort of thing. Then I hired someone to haul a lot of junk away. My guess is that he put a good third of it in his back yard.


GravatarCindy's looking more and more like a deranged replicant.


Gravatar"They kept you safe after 9/11" is the only thing they've had to keep the lizard-brains pacified. If, at last, they can't even do that?
SteveLG


But why don't people question why they weren't "kept safe" ON 9/11?

"Ah've been sayin' that these evildoers wanna kill Americans because they hate our freedoms, and still the Democrats in congress have refused time and time again to pass legislation to give our intelligence services the tools they need to keep us safe. And if you think this is bad, just wait until they have control of the WH and see how much terror is inflicted . . . "


GravatarCindy's looking more and more like a deranged replicant.

She's looking forward to putting shag carpeting in the oval office.


Gravatar"Ah've been sayin' that these evildoers wanna kill Americans because they hate our freedoms, and still the Democrats in congress have refused time and time again to pass legislation to give our intelligence services the tools they need to keep us safe. And if you think this is bad, just wait until me an' mah brain-damaged sociopathic neocon buddies have control of the national dialogue and spend months on end scaring the shit out of you with a brown-skinned boogieman and see how much terror is inflicted . . . "
V for Virginia, discouraged | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 7:36 am


Filed yer taxes.


GravatarOr the several jets he crashed.
Diane C. Barking-Mad


I think a good strategy for Obama would be for every McCain ad, create a parody of it. Make it look like the real thing at first, then slowly take it to pieces with quotes and video. End with his insane grin.

The guy is his own worst enemy.


GravatarDidn't close the tags right, but.... [facepalm]


GravatarI bartered things away with some people. You want the mower, will you cut the grass till the house is sold? That sort of thing. Then I hired someone to haul a lot of junk away.

i had half of a giant oak come down 2 years ago, the thing was HUGE...i lamented paying a tree person to clean it up, but then i had a brainstorm: call a firewood guy and give him most the wood for cleaning it up, brilliant!


Gravatar I figure it's going in the trash/being donated anyway, so my philosophy of negotiation is, "If someone offers you something, take it."

This was back in the early/mid nineties before eBay and Craig's List and stuff like that, so there'd often be stuff that was really worth something.

Willing to give a super-duper bargain, but not to listen to shit like "I'll give ya a dollar for it if you'll throw in a stack of those cloth diapers."

But you're right... you might as well include nothing but trash, since the folks who look at it treat it all like that's what it is.


Gravatar'mornin'

SteveLG: possessions are really funny things. We have lots of stuff we've accumulated over a quarter century of living in a house with five people. Aside from all those books, I could move to a one bedroom apartment tomorrow, and get rid of almost all of it without a qualm. Don't buy much save books, music, food and computer stuff. I'm happy to drive a Honda 'til it rots. Feels strange, once or twice a year when I walk through a mall looking for presents for people, thinking that buying stuff is a way of life for some. I don't feel morally superior to 'em, don't get me wrong, but I just don't have that impulse.

Makes me feel strange when I think of just how much of the economy is built up around things that don't really mean that much to me. Almost makes me feel a little lonely. Not snarking here at all.


GravatarGiven the fiasco with the repugs in the senate forcing a full reading of the global warming bill, I suggest the following. For each bill in the future, have it taped, and then play the tape at something like 10 or 20 times normal speed for a full reading.


GravatarI think a good strategy for Obama would be for every McCain ad, create a parody of it. Make it look like the real thing at first, then slowly take it to pieces with quotes and video. End with his insane grin.

That's our job.

It's what YouTube is for...


GravatarThe climate bill was put off until next year. Fine with me.


GravatarThat's our job.

It's what YouTube is for...
SteveLG




(But, of course, you're right.)


GravatarThe climate bill was put off until next year. Fine with me.
plantsman, | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 7:42 am | #


But it's hot now!
/whine
~


GravatarRe: Bush Preznitial Liebury:

Since SMU has voted not to support this effort, the private sector will now have to pick up the slack. Bids have been received from the owner of the largest ball of twine in the continental United States, and from the owner of the largest supply of used aluminum foil.

Texas is still in the running, as the owner of the largest pile of dried cow flops has made an attractive offer.

No one, however, actually wants to build a building to house the President's papers.

Ward Em Off, mayor of Tokio, TX, says, "George, uh, who the fuck is he?, yeah, Bush, is a great American and a great Texan, and we'll keep his liebury here, just so long as we don't have to pay for it. We figger we can just throw his administration on the top of the pile of cow flops we already got. Make the pie higher, y'think?


GravatarProfWombat (good morning) -- I hadn't thought of it that way, but, wow. I'm in much the same situation, with the difference that I have still got a lot of the last 20 years of stuff packed up around here. Wouldn't miss most of it, though.

I pass by Ikea and wonder what cool stuff might possibly be in there that I really need. Multiply that by most of the storefronts in the country, and I'm back to buying the occasional book, DVD, or CD. Some new clothes, some food, gas, a computer game here and there, and I'm good.


GravatarMakes me feel strange when I think of just how much of the economy is built up around things that don't really mean that much to me. Almost makes me feel a little lonely.

it's not only you prof.

our consumer-culture is empty, the consumers are like junkies, the fix never satisfies, it's always the lure of the next fix


Gravatar(it won't need a veto-proof majority next year, either.)


GravatarProfWombat, that's a good thought to depart by, and get myself ready to go sell wine to people.

You see, selling fine food and wine is much, much different than selling "stuff".... I won't say morally superior (although I truly believe that, privately ).

See you all from time to time.


GravatarBush's library will contain many documents that nobody will be allowed to see until well after all the principals are dead. It won't contain all those deleted e-mails and mislaid directives bearing on such things as planning to invade Iraq well before 9/11, the use of torture and rendition, the oil companies' making energy policy with Cheney and so on.

The bitter precedent that occurs to me all too easily is that of the missing written authorization by Hitler for the camps.


GravatarDammit, I love shooting the shit with you people so much! But we're having houseguests and someone's gonna have to make this place at least superficially safe for human habitation

I don't actually feel all that negative, to be honest; I just don't know what the lizard brains will do if there's a calamity. And I do think people are fed up with the stupid nonsense about the beauty pageant, and are looking for something to be done. Gonna be an interesting couple of months, at least.

Love you people -- have a wonderful Saturday!


Gravatar{{{{{ V4VA }}}}} Same to you, sweetie!


GravatarProf Wombat,

Same here. Still, I find myself mourning that piano I had years ago and remembering and missing a favorite plant. Attachment is a funny thing.

[cue Buddhist glockenspiel]


GravatarI have the feeling with our reduction in consumption, junk that breaks quickly will far out of favor, and fine craftsmanship that lasts will again
become important.


GravatarSheesh. fall.


GravatarStorms missed me, too. Some damage a few miles away. There is something a little bit frightening when you hear the sirens go off, the TV tells you to get in the basement, the radio says run for your life, the NWS radar is all red,and it's so dark the streelights go on. O well, had a load of laundry to do anyway.


GravatarAh, someone departs with a fertilizer spreader...

I had to look carefully to see that someone hadn't come into my yard, taken mine out of the shed, and bought it (actually, I'd have sold it to them... I never use it).

With yard sale people you can take nothing for granted.

'bye.


GravatarTwo years ago, we sold our summer camp and house and consolidated into a small house on the lake. The camp was sold with its contents, and we basically just took the books, pictures and canoes with us.

We gave away lots of stuff from the house, mostly to family, students and local thrift shops.

The only really hard thing was consolidating into a one car garage.


GravatarSteveLG: me, I haven't a problem with that. Wine well purchased takes something mundane and transforms it into a great pleasure, and better yet, one you can share. I have no problem with those who, say, buy clothes to similar ends; I'm just not one of them.

The folk who buy stuff to prove something to themselves about who they are, they're another thing. That doesn't work. They don't even reflect from the funhouse mirror they're standing in front of.


GravatarLike I said, WaPo almost got it right. Let's hope the Supreme Court and Congress finish the job.

Diane, Fred Hiatt's schtick is occasionally pretending to be reasonable. But when push comes to shove, he's going to line up with the neocons every time (e.g. the Scooter Libby trial).
~


GravatarI heard Bush's library got 5 copies of "My Pet Goat".


GravatarMy FIL used to have so much crap that whenever he left the garage door open on Saturday, people would stop, thinking he was having a garage sale.


Gravatarfine craftsmanship that lasts will again
become important.


i have 3 GE fans from the 20's and 30's that i bought years ago, one was painted baby-blue (must have been in a bathroom) and one was ugly green...they still work perfectly with their brass blades shining - those are meant to last generations


GravatarI heard Bush's library got 5 copies of "My Pet Goat".
Barndog, nice and cool


All the "original 9/11 copy". All mint condition.

Make an offer.


GravatarI heard Bush's library got 5 copies of "My Pet Goat".
Barndog, nice and cool | 06.07.08 - 7:50 am


Dubya kept accidentally tearing the pages during the exciting part.


GravatarGood early AM!

Picking up on Prof W's "possessions" theme -

My parents were both kids/teens in the Great Depression. So they didn't have much need for stuff as I grew up - we didn't even have color TV until 1978 (and then, dad got it as a contest gift).

The majority of folks under 45 havenot really experienced the inability to satisfy wants, let alone needs. Fuel prices and housing are just the start of the unraveling.


GravatarI know, ifthethunderdontgetya, but to see Hiatt actually admit the military tribunals are not the equivalent of fair trials was a bit stunning.


GravatarRalphie, Glad you're still here rather than in Oz or something.


GravatarIt won't contain all those deleted e-mails and mislaid directives
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Bush library, legacy of an American hero:

-Saved the US after deadly 9/11 attack on our nation
-No Child Left Behind education initiative
-All the colors of the rainbow administration
-Mission Accomplished, War on Terror
-Changing the face of the middle east for democracy
-Crusader against AIDS in Africa


GravatarMy dad as a young man had one suit. He went to wear it an uncle's funeral (this must have been in the 1930s or so), but couldn't find it. When he asked his mother, she said, "Oh, we're burying your uncle in it."


GravatarI got missed by 10 miles North, and West.

That was 2 seperate tornados from what I've heard. That determination will be made today by NWS.


GravatarMy dad as a young man had one suit. He went to wear it an uncle's funeral (this must have been in the 1930s or so), but couldn't find it. When he asked his mother, she said, "Oh, we're burying your uncle in it."


Ah, geez, different times, fer sure.


GravatarIn other happy news, it's supposed to be in the low 90's with a good chance of a repeat storm front later today. Not too late to get to Oz.


GravatarThat video is... something.


GravatarGood morning from the West Coast.


GravatarYou Michiganders had a rougher run of storms than those of us in SE Wisconsin.


GravatarGeronimo? Yeah, those kookie kids really knew how to cut loose, dint they?


Gravatarmajority of folks under 45 havenot really experienced the inability to satisfy wants

i am 40 and the crap just doesn't impress me, it's mostly crap, poorly designed and engineered for obsolescence.

i got a waring blendor for 5 dollars at a yard sale(!), it's from 1939, shiny chrome and bakelite black and chews ice like a rabbit on a carrot.


GravatarThe confusion between wants and needs is far from trivial. Again, no snark. You go to work, say, there are expectations about you not wearing the same suit to work every day if you're a guy, and a whole raft of them if you're a lady. So, do you need that stuff? If everybody's successfully told that single career women need Manolo Blahnik shoes, is that a need or a want?

Hard economic times, when food, gas and living space become non-trivial acquisitions, change things somewhat, of course...


GravatarYou're up early, west coast


GravatarThe climate bill was put off until next year. Fine with me.
plantsman, | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 7:42 am | #

But it's hot now!
/whine
~
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 7:44 am |


And humid!

/more whining

Since I've been up since 4 fucking 30, I decided to take my walk early, since it looks like it's going to be raining mid morning. It sprinkled a bit on the last leg home, just enough to make it more humid.

Blech.


GravatarA library should a have decent fiction section.


GravatarRoadmaster -- Lansing area sure got nailed, according to BD. Ann Arbor got hit much more lightly than a lot of places. I admit I was getting a little worried, hearing the tornado warnings come in from the west side of the state, but we basically got twenty minutes of raining sideways and a few rumbles and that was it.


GravatarGeronimo? Yeah, those kookie kids really knew how to cut loose, dint they?
plantsman, | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 7:59 am | #


I am most impressed by the dance moves.
~


GravatarYou Michiganders had a rougher run of storms than those of us in SE Wisconsin

Yessir we did. Nobody hurt, but some pretty fucked up homes and such.


GravatarRoadie, how bad was the damage in the Milwaukee area?


GravatarHey, Unc!


Gravatar'No Child Left Behind' is universally despised by every educator I've ever met.


Gravatar"No Mind Left Alive" is more like it.


Gravatari got a waring blendor for 5 dollars at a yard sale(!), it's from 1939, shiny chrome and bakelite black and chews ice like a rabbit on a carrot.
mogwai

Much of my household is full of mid-century items - lamps, clocks, small appliances, etc. - most still work just fine, are more rugged than their contemporaries, and have great style.

Getting harder to find those gems at sales, though. Lotta frivolous knick-knacks from the past decade, though.


Gravatar'No Child Left Behind' is universally despised by every educator I've ever met.
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Looks like a legacy, but every item is a failure. Except maybe a few $ for AIDS relief


GravatarA library should a have decent fiction section.

Bush's will be labeled, "Why I Went to War."


GravatarProf Wombat,

1. When I was in graduate school, the females were told how to dress for interviews.

2. I had a fellow assistant professor who resented that hell out of males because she said she could never wear jeans to class until she got tenure.

3. Student evaluations tend to be much more critical of female professors' appearances.


Gravatar'No Child Left Behind' is universally despised by every educator I've ever met.
ProfWombat

"No Mind Left Alive" is more like it.
plantsman


Heh, my sister and brother-in-law refer to it as "No Child Left Alive


GravatarRoad: got our first color TV in 1985. Enjoyed it, but we don't watch TV much. If we had, we'd have got one earlier, no doubt. But we grew up watching black and white TV, so that was the default...


Gravatar"No Mind Left Alive" is more like it.
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"Every child left behind", if the children in question are struggling


Gravatar'No Child Left Behind' is universally despised by every educator I've ever met.
ProfWombat | 06.07.08 - 8:01 am


Chimpy's margin notes for the original probably say "No Child Smarter Than Me".


GravatarKhalid Sheik Mohammed On Same-Sex Marriage, Value of Counsel
Wall Street Journal Blogs - 16 hours ago
WSJ Supreme Court reporter Jess Bravin, who is in Gitmo this week covering the appearance of Khalid Sheik Mohammed and four other alleged Sept


...he said our constitution is evil because it allows same-sex marriage, blah blah...BAHAHAahahahahahaha

Ratwanger fundie fucks are the same no matter the culture


GravatarHey, Unc!
filkertom


Hey, Filtertom--not Filkerton, as I've heard you say multiple times on the CD I've been working on.

Yes, I'm almost through with the beast, the project using the EschaCon08 gabfest.

I just have to put some music to my "love note" to Hamell On Trial.


GravatarExcellent, UncSmokes -- can't wait.


Gravatarleibniz: that crap starts early. My youngest daughter wears camo shorts a lot. In our affluent suburb, there are, in grade school, already those who wear more stylish stuff, and get identified as 'popular' girls. Part of this reflects their parents' values, part their own proclivities, part their susceptibility to all the marketing/entertainment (one and the same, mostly) to which they're subjected. Drives me nuts.


Gravatar'No Child Left Behind' is universally despised by every educator I've ever met.
ProfWombat


Bush's legacy: A loss is a terrible thing to mind.


GravatarLooks like a legacy, but every item is a failure. Except maybe a few $ for AIDS relief
el, whitey


All of which $ were tied to abstinence education.


GravatarMilwaukee damage was negligible. South of Milwaukee, Racine County had trees down - mostly from straight-line winds.


Gravatarleibniz leibkins ♘☮
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heh, when I was in college (art major), used to sneak into the dining hall at the end, wolf down a few bites, and then back to the art building.

One day it was the sad duty of my advisor to inform me, I had been spotted wearing {{{jeans}}} to the dining hall, and it was going in my *permanent record*.

I got to graduate, though


GravatarRepublican John McCain's first major television ad after knowing for sure that Barack Obama will be his competition is a stark, personal pitch to voters that he knows about war - and knows how to keep America secure.
more stories like this

* Poll: Obama leads McCain nationally by slight margin
* Dems to push Obama's goals with bills in Congress
* Edwards rules out possibility of vice presidential run with Obama
* Gay marriage back as a campaign issue
* Today on the presidential campaign trail
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"Only a fool or a fraud talks tough or romantically about war," McCain says in the 30-second spot. "When I was 5 years old, my father left for war. My grandfather came home from war and died the next day."

"I was shot down over Vietnam and spent five years as a POW," he continues as historical images appear on the screen and sober music plays in the background. "Some of the friends I served with never came home. I hate war. And I know how terrible its costs are."

"I'm running for president to keep the country I love safe," McCain concludes.


it worked for dumbya in '04...this is uh-merica remember, we still HATE france for being right about the iraq war from the start


GravatarAll of which $ were tied to abstinence education.
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And $ helped the drug companies


GravatarAll of which $ were tied to abstinence education.
Diane C. Barking-Mad


That is, if those $ showed up at all...lots of photo-op vapor pledges the past few years...


Gravatarmogwai: I've often thought that the rightwingers have far more in common with the Islamic fundies than they'd like to admit.

I think part of the right's love for Israel is outright envy: a state based on religious identity which resorts uncritically, uncompromisingly and unapologetically to the use of massive military force.


GravatarDrives me nuts.

JK Galbraith nailed it in "The Affluent Society". What was that, 1962?


GravatarNice article on Mac Rebennack (Dr John), his music, and the New Orleans recovery in the NYT today.


GravatarWhoops, here's the Dr John link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/0...sic/ 07john.html


GravatarOne day it was the sad duty of my advisor to inform me, I had been spotted wearing {{{jeans}}} to the dining hall, and it was going in my *permanent record*.

One's permanent record is highly overrated....

But, it's a wonderful control tool for those who don't yet know any better....


GravatarOne day it was the sad duty of my advisor to inform me, I had been spotted wearing {{{jeans}}} to the dining hall, and it was going in my *permanent record*.

I got to graduate, though
el, whitey | 06.07.08 - 8:08 am


The whole Big Brother notion of intimidating kids th rough the "permanent record" (I first heard about it in second fucking grade) is just vile. And especially ludicrous given how reality worked then and how it works now, with YouTube and other sources actually creating a permanent record for those who kinda deserve it....


Gravatar"Only a fool or a fraud talks tough or romantically about war," McCain sez...

Take that clip, play it right before one showing McCain singing, "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb Iran".

This is too easy.
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GravatarDiane: much as I hate to concede anything whatever to Bush, he has spent more money in Africa fighting AIDS, and not all of it it a subsidy of religious wingnuttery, though all too much of it is.


GravatarIs it possible that all the chaotic weather in the upper midwest is due to Atrios being there?


Gravatarrightwingers have far more in common with the Islamic fundies than they'd like to admit.


LOL...or are able to admit; they are simple people in my view, and as such probably don't get the connection


GravatarOK, time for some breakfast. Enjoy the morning, bats!

And, as ifthethunderdontgetya so kindly pointed out, I discovered a WaPo editorial which actually almost got it right.


GravatarDr John is wonderful. Two of my favorite records are his covers of Duke Ellington, 'Duke Elegant', and one he made with Fathead Newman and Nat Adderly called 'Bluesiana Triangle'...


GravatarNo, it's not Atrios' hot air, it's hot air from the Gulf of Mexico causing the bad weather.


GravatarMorning, all.


GravatarHey, Moe!


GravatarI think part of the right's love for Israel is outright envy: a state based on religious identity which resorts uncritically, uncompromisingly and unapologetically to the use of massive military force.

except that over 50% of Israelis and American Jews object to unapologetic use of force. The right wing peaked, but still rules.


GravatarHow're things, BD?


Gravatarleibniz: further back than that, maybe Thorstein Veblen, others I can't think of offhand. A tension in western society as soon as disposable income existed...


Gravatar'Sup, Moe!


GravatarSurvived the tornados W & N of us last night.

That's a good thing.


GravatarOK, off to do other stuff.

Have a good and/or productive day, all.


Gravatarel: absolutely 100% in agreement. The right holds a caricature of Irsael that is at variance with the facts. And AIPAC isn't representative of Israeli opinion, much less that of American Jews.


GravatarHey filk, et al. Big garden day. Everything will be in today, by the end of the day. And, we're installing our rain collection system today too.


GravatarDr John is wonderful. Two of my favorite records are his covers of Duke Ellington, 'Duke Elegant', and one he made with Fathead Newman and Nat Adderly called 'Bluesiana Triangle'...

His song writing is terrific, but I'm a tremendous fan of his piano playing. So my favorite album is 'Dr John Plays Mac Rebennack' which is all solo piano.


GravatarJohn McCain talks about the horrors of war, but he still wants the latest one to keep on going for years, or decades.

I'd say that's someone who didn't learn from experience.

I'd say that's someone who doesn't have a fuckin' clue.


GravatarGood morning.

ProfWombat I believe Cuckoo has promised more money to Africa for aids than any other president but hasn't actually delivered.


GravatarGromit: from your lips to my iPod. Ain't technology wonderful?


GravatarDr John is wonderful. Two of my favorite records are his covers of Duke Ellington, 'Duke Elegant', and one he made with Fathead Newman and Nat Adderly called 'Bluesiana Triangle'...

His song writing is terrific, but I'm a tremendous fan of his piano playing. So my favorite album is 'Dr John Plays Mac Rebennack' which is all solo piano.
Gromit | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 8:17 am


God, his piano work is amazing. An Iron Piano concert with him, Hornsby, Billy Joel, and Elton John could outsell Hannah Montana.


GravatarProfWombat I believe Cuckoo has promised more money to Africa for aids than any other president but hasn't actually delivered.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 8:18 am


Didn't he have all those abstinence-only strings on it?


GravatarProf Wombat,

Veblen rightly began to see economics as socially as well as individually determined. But iirc Galbraith identified the pernicious feed forward mechanisms of the bourgeois classes clamoring to use their disposable income like a peacock's feathers or a baboon's butt.


GravatarJohn McCain talks about the horrors of war, but he still wants the latest one to keep on going for years, or decades.

The trouble with military background POTUS's, their most intimate friends, family, and colleagues, are bolstering war war war as the theme of life.


Gravatarrightwingers have far more in common with the Islamic fundies than they'd like to admit.
ProfWombat

LOL...or are able to admit; they are simple people in my view, and as such probably don't get the connection
mogwai


Well, it's all just surface phenomenon to right wingers. They think of the headgear, the muezzin calls, and the prostration toward Mecca, and can't get further than that.

Introspection is anathema to reactionary conservatism.

Perhaps what I've missed the most in our country's zeitgeist of the previous few years is the utter lack of imagination.


Gravatarand Obama is enabling Israel into an attack on Iran as we speak.

starting WWIII so he can become president. what an incompetent!


Gravatarleibniz: sure; Galbraith's critique, arising out of the age of Mad. Ave. consumerism following WW II, was extraordinary for the time, and remains spot on. Besides, for a devotee of the Dismal Science, he was indecently fun to read...


GravatarIsn't it sort of early for trolls?


GravatarGod, his piano work is amazing. An Iron Piano concert with him, Hornsby, Billy Joel, and Elton John could outsell Hannah Montana.
filkertom | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 8:20 am | #

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the Iron Butterfingers Tour 08!!!!!!


GravatarGod, his piano work is amazing.

He switched to piano from guitar after being shot in the hand. Still usually plays a little guitar in his shows, though.


Gravatarand Obama is enabling Israel into an attack on Iran as we speak.

starting WWIII so he can become president. what an incompetent!


Huh?

As I recall, Obama is not yet President, so he's in no position of "starting WWIII" quite yet.

Your lord and master, George W. Bush, is in the driver's seat right now on that one, troll.


Gravatar Terrorist Chest Jab…Texas style

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Gravataroh shit:

It is the fourth time in 10 months that a human foot has been found in a relatively small section of British Columbia's vast coastline. All have been right feet, encased in sneakers.


Gravatarand Obama is enabling Israel into an attack on Iran as we speak.

starting WWIII so he can become president. what an incompetent!
no Obama | 06.07.08 - 8:23 am | #


trollie, actually it was Bush who enabled it. After his trip to mid east, Olmert began publicizing his threat to invade Iran "if they don't stop enriching uranium".

Well, everyone on earth knows Iran's position on THAT. Did you hear Bush decrying this position? Did ANYONE decry this position?

You attribute a lot of power to a mere 3 day old presumptive nominee giving one speech.


Gravatarshot in the hand and you're to blame
you give derringers a bad name
bad name


GravatarAll have been right feet, encased in sneakers.

Land shark?


GravatarBesides, for a devotee of the Dismal Science, he was indecently fun to read...
ProfWombat


Ha! I learn something new every time I come here...the Dismal Science.


GravatarAbstinence-only, and you can't mention abortion, even in countries lie, say, the USA, where it's a constitutional right in the first trimester. Like I said, highly imperfect, and, like most Bushie initiavitves that don't kill people or feed those who do, underfunded. But the US effort in such things has been woefully inadequate for some time. As constrained and ideologically blindered as Bush's efforts have been, they, sadly, remain an improvement.


Gravatari really didn't need that image of feet this early.

jesus


Gravatarbreaking:
obama offers veep position to hillary who can't accept due to being pinned down by bosnians


GravatarAnd killfile's getting larger


GravatarThat's a pretty fascinating article (about the feet), actually, if you're up to it. Gets into a lot strange issues you would never think about.


GravatarUnk: me too. Not a single time I come here when someone doesn't teach me something, send me someplace I haven't been or offer a slant on something I hadn't considered.


GravatarObama - enabling war since June 5 2008


GravatarCriminal Minds: One More Foot; The Extended Version...over cheerios.


AAARRRGGGHHHHH


GravatarQuote of the day:

“It's not unusual to find a foot or an arm or a head washed up on a beach,”


Gravatarthe BC serial killer (assumption) may be a good dancer, seeing that there are no left feet


GravatarQuote of the day:

“It's not unusual to find a foot or an arm or a head washed up on a beach,”
Moe Szyslak, cold | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 8:32 am | #




nope.

along with the spanish galleons, salvador dali silkscreens, trinkets from atlantis, and japanese 'used' undies in glass jars...


GravatarActually, the coroner says it's probably *not* a serial killer:

“Based on what we know right now, this is a rather weird coincidence,” he said. “There is no indication that these are severed feet, no indication they have been forcibly removed.”

The coroner's office is plotting the finds on a map to try to determine what currents and tides might have delivered the feet to the various shores.

Mr. Smith suggests there are plenty of reasonable explanations: people lost in boating or airplane accidents, swimmers who drowned. But in his seven-plus years as chief coroner, he acknowledges, he's never dealt with anything like this.

“It sure is a baffling one,” he said.


GravatarObama - enabling war since June 5 2008
no Obama


Probably the definition of someone deep in denial.

The war is ongoing, my friend. And, someone else, near and dear to your heart, I think, is responsible for that.


GravatarQuote of the day: “It's not unusual to find a foot or an arm or a head washed up on a beach,”

You can almost hear Donald Rumsfeld saying that.


GravatarObama - enabling war since June 5 2008
no Obama | 06.07.08 - 8:31 am | #
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no Obama, why don't you state your position against Obama, or make a case for McCain? Cryptic defiant statements in this community come off like childish anger.

You don't want to be treated like a child, do you?


Gravatarobama- enabling orange juice drinkers since 2008


Gravatarenabling war since June 5 2008

would a tr00l's ignorance of reality be called irony? oxymoron?


GravatarI'll be the very first to criticize Obama for not ending the war (and, I expect that to be the case, hope I'm wrong). But good god, somebody else is president, ya know?


GravatarYou don't want to be treated like a child, do you?

Ah, the man-child is a regular fixture here....


Gravatarwhy didn't john mccain end the franco-prussian war when he had the chance?

inquiring minds say it would be irresponsible to not ask this question.


GravatarI did not have sex with that Prussian.


GravatarStuff going on (nothing bad, just suddenly time-consuming). Have a lovely day, gang -- hugs all around.


GravatarHistory Of The Internet.


GravatarObama seems like a nice young man and not a "gangbanger" but I can't vote for him since I disagree with on-demand gay marriage and the rest of his San Francisco values platform.


GravatarObama seems like a nice young man and not a "gangbanger" but I can't vote for him since I disagree with on-demand gay marriage and the rest of his San Francisco values platform.
Independents for McCain


Of course, you hold this view with, nevertheless, with the greatest respect for the Constitution, especially the 14th Amendment to same.


GravatarSan Francisco values platform.

The speed at which Republican smears are picked up: I just read YESTERDAY about "San Francisco democrats", which seemingly are *liberals* who believe (natch) in extreme abortion and gay rights positions, even (gasp) gay marriage.

Senator Obama is not from San Francisco, and San Francisco values doesn't ring a bell.


GravatarObama seems like a nice young man and not a "gangbanger" but I can't vote for him since I disagree with on-demand gay marriage and the rest of his San Francisco values platform.
Independents for McCain | 06.07.08 - 8:40 am | #


mccain seems like a nice very, very, very, very, very, old, old, old, old, old man and not a 'gangbanger' but i can't vote for him since i disagree with delivering bottled hot-water to dehydrated children.


Gravatar“It's not unusual to find a foot or an arm or a head washed up on a beach,”
Moe Szyslak, cold


I thinking Blue Velvet sequel...

Jeffrey [hands over bag]: I've found a foot on the beach.
Detective [looks in bag]: That's a human foot all right.
Jeffrey [stiltingly]: What can you tell from the foot?
Detective: It's a right one, and is significant for missing the body to which it should normally be attached.

[Cut to John Malkovich, as the evil Frank Booth's brother, snuffling airplane glue soaked into a pair of red panties as Dean Stockwell lip syncs "Crimson In Clover."]

I think I've got David Lynch's next project!


GravatarQuote of the day: “It's not unusual to find a foot or an arm or a head washed up on a beach,”

You can almost hear Donald Rumsfeld saying that.




Gravataris delivering bottled, hot water to dehydrated children a 'gangbanger' position?

inquiring minds need to know.


Gravatarmccain seems like a nice very, very, very, very, very, old, old, old, old, old man and not a 'gangbanger' but i can't vote for him since i disagree with delivering bottled hot-water to dehydrated children.
me too


That cracked us up. My son made me play the "remixed" one about 20 times. Poor babies.


GravatarObama seems like a nice young man and not a "gangbanger"

and finally, having to say "not a gangbanger", as though presumably this clarification is necessary (with him being a negro?).

What if I said McCain seems like a nice old man and not a "gangbanger"

Say, what?


GravatarSan Francisco values = I plan to vote for decrepit blinking gaffe machine with the creepy rictus Mona Lisa smile.


GravatarIndependents for McCain | 06.07.08 - 8:40 am |

independent my ass...when (as if) your type votes dem, the boat steers rightard


GravatarHmmm..."on-demand gay marriage" is one of the oddest troll baits I've seen in a while. I'm still trying parse what that actually means, if anything.


GravatarThose San Francisco-values-having liberals prefer Rice-A-Roni to mash potatoes!


Gravatarwhy can't the bottled hot-water industries practice their love?


GravatarLots of gangbangers are 46 yo Harvard Law graduates.

Good dog, these people have nothing to work with, do they?


GravatarSan Francisco liberals (who are the right wing in SF) actually do a pretty good job running the city. For all the scandals and over-the-top news events (remember the bottle-up-the-ass party?) the place actually is governmed with something resembling competence, which is far more than you can say for most places.


Gravatar"Hmmm..."on-demand gay marriage" is one of the oddest troll baits I've seen in a while. I'm still trying parse what that actually means, if anything.
Uncle Smokes"

I think it means that any homosexual can come up demand and demand to marry you. You won't be allowed to decline the proposal.


GravatarWhat if I said McCain seems like a nice old man and not a "gangbanger"

Say, what?


What if I said McCain seems like an aging, corrupt tool of organized crime and the military-industrial complex who drools in his oatmeal each morning?

I could say that, but, y'know....


GravatarHmmm..."on-demand gay marriage" is one of the oddest troll baits I've seen in a while. I'm still trying parse what that actually means, if anything.
Uncle Smokes | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 8:49 am | #

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it seemed to work for abortion, why not try it for gay marriage?


Gravatar"on-demand gay marriage"

Uncle Smokes (and good morning to you) I think it was referring to states in which a gay person can follow the same procedures to get married as a man/woman couple.

shocking


Gravatarthink it means that any homosexual can come up demand and demand to marry you. You won't be allowed to decline the proposal.
Willendorf Venus | 06.07.08 - 8:51 am | #

and mimes.
Mime marriage on demand is a san francisco value.


GravatarI think it means that any homosexual can come up demand and demand to marry you. You won't be allowed to decline the proposal.
Willendorf Venus


Well...I wouldn't do that. I would at least throw in a nice coupon book.


GravatarI think it refers to where you can get gay marriage out of a vending machine.


Gravatarif two homosexual mimes marry each other do you have same-sex silence on demand?


Gravatarit seemed to work for abortion, why not try it for gay marriage?

the receivers are knuckle-dragging simpletons who need their news force-fed in snippets; i always think of cletus the slack-jawed yokel


GravatarHmmm..."on-demand gay marriage" is one of the oddest troll baits I've seen in a while. I'm still trying parse what that actually means, if anything.

Umm, "on-demand" means marriage of two people without Supreme Court challenges.


GravatarYou think McCain was yearning for his hot-water bottle when he made that gaffe?


GravatarUmm, "on-demand" means marriage of two people without Supreme Court challenges.

Actually, it's "on-de man", which scares the hell out of the trolls.


Gravatari shot a mime in reno
just to hear him cry


GravatarI think it means that any homosexual can come up demand and demand to marry you. You won't be allowed to decline the proposal.

In an LDS community, demand as many as you want


Gravatarreno jobs in reno:

is it a 'gay' issue:

more at 11:00


GravatarAlas for my twisted brain...I see McCain...I see hot-water bottle...and I think Stadium Pal!


GravatarYou think McCain was yearning for his hot-water bottle when he made that gaffe?

His enema bottle.


GravatarAlas for my twisted brain...I see McCain...I see hot-water bottle...and I think Stadium Pal!
Uncle Smokes


ew.


GravatarI long for those carefree days before I knew about the existence of the Stadium Pal. (What kind of pal lets you pee into them, anyway?)


GravatarI wonder what the chances are of lining up a threesome with Julie Couillard and Karla Homolka.


GravatarI think it refers to where you can get gay marriage out of a vending machine.
leibniz leibkins


Great...it's 4am at a Motel 6, and the only thing in the vending machine is gay mariage and a yellow can of Canada Dry Tonic Water.


GravatarStadium Pal! And its distaff version, incontinelle!

In the sailing community these were marketed as "he she", girls could unzip their jeans, hold a he she to the pee generating area, and affect a stream into the ocean, just like a boy!


GravatarMoe, is your wife traveling?


GravatarI wonder what the chances are of lining up a threesome with Julie Couillard and Karla Homolka.
Moe Szyslak


Moe, only one of you would come out alive.


GravatarMoe, is your wife traveling?

No, she'd be the third.


GravatarNo, she'd be the third.
Moe Szyslak




GravatarNo, she'd be the third.

Hee


GravatarI wonder what the chances are of lining up a threesome with Julie Couillard and Karla Homolka.
Moe Szyslak


You news hounds never stop working, do you?


GravatarHeh:

Mr. Sirois is also the first of those close to Ms. Couillard to speak out - and few people were as intimate with her as he was. Of the five men she has been recently revealed to be associated with - a convicted Mafia gangster, a loan shark, a biker, a security consultant who trafficked in stolen goods and finally a former Tory cabinet minister - Mr. Sirois is the only one she married.


GravatarWith that, I gotta get started in the garden. See you folks later.


GravatarHey, peeps, just a quick visit.

Moe, about them shoes: I remember when the third one made the news, and there was something in that article that I didn't see in this one (maybe it's there and I missed it): that left and right shoes may well end up in different places because of their form and how they react to currents. That may explain why they are all right shoes in this area.


GravatarSounds like that Julie really knows what she wants in a man.


GravatarGood morning

Today I go to my sister's retirement party. When does Hillary speak?


Gravatarso Obama is planning on sending Cruella Deville McCaskill out as his women's emissary...

Once again proving that his campaign has not clue about sexism and politics

Claire I never met a gooper I didn't like with the crappy stands on immigation and FISA and her lies about why she supported Obama


GravatarUmm, just thinking here.

The most obnoxious, fearful, cowardly, ill-informed, least aware, grammatically- and logically-challenged, authoritarian-loving people in this country come here to say we're all idiots.

That is all.


GravatarHope Hecate gets to go see Hillary today

I'm off to pick up my mom for a picnic by a mountain waterfall

Have a great day, all


GravatarGreenwald nails it:

…The same stars of the Liberal Media who paralyzed the country for two years with their fixation on Bill Clinton's sex scandal -- and who relentlessly insisted that he be forced from office -- have spent the last seven years calmly telling us that there is no reason to get all excited or upset by what the administration has been doing. As the administration repeatedly broke multiple laws and degraded every last realm of our political culture, most of our Broder-led media class remained nice and "calm and quiet." Of course they don't believe there should be any consequences for the crimes that have been committed by this administration because, as complicit enablers in all of it, those crimes are also their own.


Gravatarcamelot MSNBC is starting coverage at 11.

Have no idea when it actually starts.


GravatarGreenwald nails it

Like he always do.


GravatarGreenwald is going to be the guest at Lizz Winstead's thing here on Monday night.

I'm trying to find somebody to go with me.


GravatarNew York, (ANI): Vanity Fair magazine has refused Gina Gershon's demand for an apology over a profile piece on Bill Clinton which stated that the actress had an alleged affair with the former US President. The magazine has also refused to print a retraction for the same.

Are Linda Tripp and Pantload's momma involved in this somehow? Do they have a semen-stained blue dress or some other damning article of clothing hidden away somewhere, ready to spring on an unsuspecting public?


GravatarHoneyBearKellyGoGiants


Hmmmmm. I truly want to see her speech, but I suppose I will at some point. I think it will provide closure and I hope it is something I can show my daughters to make them realize how this country supports strong women.


GravatarMeanwhile the race for Vito Fossella's seat is getting weird.


GravatarFred Hiatt has been mentioned above, there is no fucking way he will not win Wanker of the Day


Gravatarc-span covering Hill live at noon


GravatarMeanwhile the race for Vito Fossella's seat is getting weird.

Why does he remind me of an older version of the kid selling illegal Chinese ammunition to the Afghans with US taxpayer money?


GravatarMeanwhile the race for Vito Fossella's seat is getting weird.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants


Oof...what a look...like David Lynch and Tim Robbins got made an unholy cross-clone. It's probably not politically sound these days to look like Gary Glitter.


GravatarAlas for my twisted brain...I see McCain...I see hot-water bottle...and I think Stadium Pal!
Uncle Smokes


A certain astronaut might have a career had she known about this product.

Perhaps not.


Gravatar"might still have a career."


GravatarWhere is everybody? Is it something I said?


GravatarUncle Smokes I like that Powers Jr. says that if doesn't win the libertarian nod he'll run for the Anarchist Party.

Didn't know they had one in Staten Island.


GravatarAn inside-the-thread homerun is the universe's way of saying: "Get to work."

ciao


GravatarWhere is everybody? Is it something I said?

No, never. Good morning.


GravatarWhere is everybody? Is it something I said?

Uh, much more likely it was something I said. *sigh*


GravatarPeople are out doing things.

I'll see if I can motivate myself to go to Target before it gets too hot.

Hasta luego.


GravatarSenator Clinton has a speech she has to give this morning, and a lot of folks are probably avoiding talking about it.


GravatarWhere is everybody? Is it something I said?

Well, it is Saturday. People are mowing, shopping, preparing yard sales, planting, fucking, you know, the usual stuff.


GravatarA lot of the country is hot and muggy today, too.


GravatarWell, it is Saturday. People are mowing, shopping, preparing yard sales, planting, fucking, you know, the usual stuff.

I think the people mowing got the short end of the stick....


GravatarUncle Smokes I like that Powers Jr. says that if doesn't win the libertarian nod he'll run for the Anarchist Party.

Didn't know they had one in Staten Island.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants


I suspect it would be his own instant party--imagine that, a libertarian anarchist Lieberman with daddy issues...the mind boggles. Rock on, Fran!


GravatarSteveLG, you're in the DC area? I have a public transit question for you.


GravatarA lot of people who mow are nuts for their lawns, though.


GravatarCommander-in-Chief Election [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

Fred Kagan writes:

For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief, there is no better test than this: When American strategy in a critical theater was up for grabs, John McCain proposed a highly unpopular and risky path, which he accurately predicted could lead to success. Barack Obama proposed a popular and politically safe route that would have led to an unnecessary and debilitating American defeat at the hands of al Qaeda.


As Jesus warns us: "Do not count your chickens before all the eggs have been gathered."


GravatarF5...F5...F5...

Will I get to be first?


GravatarGood morning.

I'd like to wish a happy 50th birthday to a certain Roger Nelson, who goes by a certain royal moniker.

(hint...it's Prince)


GravatarI have not seen Commander in Chief on any ballot, ever.


GravatarI start the day with a hearty Fuck You to that racist prick Clint Eastwood.


GravatarFred Hiatt has been mentioned above, there is no fucking way he will not win Wanker of the Day
Attaturk | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 9:21 am | #


Fred was Born to Wank.
~


GravatarAs Jesus warns us: "Do not count your chickens before all the eggs have been gathered."
Lime Rickey


Can't count chickens that have been hawked.


GravatarI'm off to do stuff. Have a nice Saturday, peeps.


Gravatar...and it's also the 10th anniversary of the murder of James Byrd. I can't believe that it's been that long.


GravatarNote to Fred Kagan: at the time Obama proposed his Strategy, it was politically risky and unpopular and Al-Qaeda was not in Iraq. Try again.


GravatarTschusschen!


GravatarFred Kagan writes:

For any voter trying to choose between the two candidates for commander in chief,


And there lies one of the great problems of our age. When the role of "commander-in-chief" becomes more important than that of manager of the Executive, we've become a nation of slaves to militarism and become second-class citizens.

Fred Kagan can eat my shorts... without condiments.


GravatarMSNBC keeps running a loop of a hugely expensive B-2 bomber crashing on Guam.


GravatarAlas...I can't wait around to try to be first whenever the next thread pops up.

So...here's what I would've gone for:

Hot bottled water for dehydrated babies!

Time to do other silly things that pay better.

Y'all take care of your good selves, and thanks for the morning fun.


GravatarShorter Fred Kagan: Who knows better than I about our Mideast quagmire.

After all, I help lie you into it.
~


GravatarAnd this guy does not deserve mention for WOD? Listen to the wanking, The issue isn’t the amount of trade. European countries actually trade much more than the United States. But their citizens appear to be more comfortable with the idea because their governments provide a stronger safety net to catch workers undercut by foreign competition and redistribute the gains from trade more equitably.

In the United States, public spending on social programs, from unemployment insurance to health care, amounts to about 17 percent of the overall economy. This is about half the level in Germany and less than almost every other rich nation. America’s meager social safety net and its winner-take-all distribution of riches means workers have less to gain from trade’s benefits and more to lose from any disruption.


He MUST be a furriner! We do NOT do shit like that here.


GravatarMedia owls


Gravatar(Wouldn't you frinkin' know it?! Damn.)


GravatarMorning again peeps.

It's more shit flinging and we have to have a better way to respond than on blogs. The reporter asking about the non-existant tape was despicable. Now it's out there. A total fabrication based on a rumor based on a novel. Sucks big time.


GravatarHi, DWD; make it thru without twister damage?


GravatarSheets...owls...whatever...


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