I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

hi


nothing like a fresh thread all to myself


ok, I'll go back down, call sheets


GravatarEvening or afternoon or something


GravatarImpeach!


GravatarIf anyone wants to mow the lawn for me today, I won't stop you.


GravatarWhen did Jay start letting Atrios post at his blog?


GravatarSure Thers, right after Eurovision's over OK?


GravatarOkay Thers. I will mow my lawn for you.


GravatarIf anyone wants to mow the lawn for me today, I won't stop you.

You could come and play hide-and-seek in my "lawn" instead. Or roll it down.


GravatarSerbia's act seem to have a past Irish quality vibe


GravatarNEW TUNNEL FROM NYC TO LONDON!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ameri...cas/ 7415911.stm


GravatarIf anyone wants to mow the lawn for me today, I won't stop you.

I was planning to mow today, but surprise surprise... it rained.

Oh well, maybe tomorrow.


GravatarThers,

If you don't cut it, it becomes a meadow. Think about it.


Gravatarmaybe not with that note


GravatarI think I'll roast a hen tonight.


Gravatarthere's one guy in blue jeans in this act that's not doing anything but wandering about the stage.


GravatarI've decided that writing a feminist blog wasn't quite the career move I thought. The money...didn't appear. The malware e-mails are now up to three a day. And then I've found that I'm a fembot.

So from now on I'm going to blog on the oppression of white fundies only.


Gravatarthe tin whistle and the violins give the vibe


GravatarSerbia's giving us a serious ballad. It's a little ST-NG.


GravatarFound an excellent pic to go with a post about Furman University faculty protesting Bush's upcoming commencement speech...


GravatarThen they came for the meadows.
Then they came for the flower beds.
Then they came for the potted fern.


Gravatarand always interesting to watch new colonies invade your lawn. Stands of flowers are nice, crabgrass not so much.


GravatarIf anyone wants to mow the lawn for me today, I won't stop you.

If you want to drive down and pick me up, I'll do it.


GravatarEchidne, I sorry to hear that. I love your blog, and you.


Gravatarnext its Russia

the track was produced by Timbaland

honest to dog


GravatarSo from now on I'm going to blog on the oppression of white fundies only.
Echidne | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 4:46 pm | #


has ever such an oppressed group been found?

ever?


GravatarI'm going to blog on the oppression of white fundies only.

it's a crowded field...


GravatarEchidne,

Not that a man should ever tell a fembot what to do and all but wouldn't it be easier to find some "Minority" where the entire "Minority" agrees about the repression? (And there are lots of them, I think.)


Gravatarmer, I love you, too. You will like the new posts about how good a man George Bush (the Jesus) is and how he keeps us all safe as predicted in the Bible and in evolutionary psychology.


GravatarThat tunnel thing is pretty keen.


Gravatar"I'm going to blog on the oppression of white fundies only."

I hope you're in favor...


GravatarRussia.

Now this is great. A singer, a "virtuoso" violinist and an ICE SKATER going in circles around the first two.

I just realized that's supposed to be English.


Gravatarmer, I love you, too. You will like the new posts about how good a man George Bush (the Jesus) is and how he keeps us all safe as predicted in the Bible and in evolutionary psychology.
Echidne | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 4:48 pm | #



a satirical blog which does a bit what colbert does would be cool. i guess jesus general does that too.


GravatarAre fembots the ones that spout dangerous feminist talking points? Or are they like Laura Bush, drugged to the gills and makeup like Tammy Faye Baker?


Gravatarvirgotex

I fired up a game


Gravatardid Timbaland find jesus or something?


GravatarA male ice skater.


GravatarClinton had an affair with Flowers, as he's admitted, and whatever the length, it wasn't out of 'feminist' motives.

Why would Bill succumb to a whore? His ardent feminism?

But you raise a better point - Why would Hillary stay with a whore-monger?

Membership has its privileges. She couldn't be as 'successful' without him? What does that make her?

According to you, there is no rational basis for dislike of the Clintons, nor for loathing their opportunism and litany of abuses of the public trust.

That's because your admiration for them is the truly irrational factor in all of this.

To you, Clinton is Elvis and you so fawn over him. Hillary is your Snow White, and you fancy yourself a Dwarf defending your silly notion of her 'honor'.

In truth, they are destructive megalomaniacal narcissists who will say anything and do anything to feed their greedy addiction to power.

Those foolish enough to admire them have two choices: (a) admit you've been had by skilled con artists; (b) continue your quixotic defense of the indefensible.
Choose Wisely.


Gravatarand it features Evgeni Plushenko as his backing dancer

way cool


Gravatardid Timbaland find jesus or something?
virgotex | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 4:49 pm | #

Is He still lost?

well, the desert is a big place.


Gravatari mean bloody hell


GravatarI know quilt. right there.


GravatarRussia has a good act...


GravatarAre fembots the ones that spout dangerous feminist talking points?

I thought they were the ones that fought Steve Austin and Jaime Summers.


GravatarOkay Thers. I will mow my lawn for you.

Ahem. While I am flattered by the offer, I remind you that I am a happily married man of the highest moral integrity.


GravatarNorway now


GravatarAre fembots the ones that spout dangerous feminist talking points? Or are they like Laura Bush, drugged to the gills and makeup like Tammy Faye Baker?

They are both, of course, depending on what is needed. Right now anyone writing about the sexism of, say, Tweety, is a fembot. Because there is no other reason to be angry about that than the sole desire to have Hillary Clinton the president. No other reason at all, because only Hillary is a woman, so all other women are unaffected by sexism becoming mainstream acceptable.


GravatarEvgeni Plushenko is a Russian Ice Skater

won lots of medals


Gravataramerovision must be right around the corner.



'Alberta...........' coming up next


GravatarNASHVILLE (AP) -- The 5-year-old daughter of Grammy-winning Christian music star Steven Curtis Chapman was struck and killed Wednesday by a sport utility vehicle driven by her brother, authorities said.

Steven Curtis Chapman's daughter was fatally struck by a sport utility vehicle driven by her brother Wednesday.

The girl, Maria Sue, was hit in the driveway of the family's home Wednesday afternoon by a Toyota Land Cruiser driven by her teenage brother


Well, let's see. What is God telling Christians with this tragedy?


Gravataranyways Norway

bit pedestrian

trying to be Shakira


GravatarNorway. She's got a Mariah thing going on too. Or maybe Le-An Rimes.


Gravatar
If you don't cut it, it becomes a meadow. Think about it.


If I don't cut it, it becomes a $100 ticket from the town...


GravatarThose foolish enough to admire them have two choices: (a) admit you've been had by skilled con artists; (b) continue your quixotic defense of the indefensible.
Choose Wisely.
Choose Wisely. | 05.24.08 - 4:49 pm | #

Those foolish enough to dismiss their accomplishments are blinded by fanatacism and rage, hatred of women being only a small part of the pathology. You are very ill, and need serious, long-term therapy and drugs. And we'd all be better off if you were off the street.


Gravatarthers, eating a lot of bacon doesn't make on have "moral integrity." jsyk.


GravatarAhem. While I am flattered by the offer, I remind you that I am a happily married man of the highest moral integrity.
Thers


Fine then. I don't offer to pay the yard guy for just anyone.


GravatarIf you want to drive down and pick me up, I'll do it.

Hmmmm....


GravatarNo other reason at all, because only Hillary is a woman, so all other women are unaffected by sexism becoming mainstream acceptable.
Echidne


Ah, I didn't understand. Now I do. Thank you so much for that. May I get drugged to the gills and have a tumbler of vodka now?


GravatarFor Father's Day, Hillary has given herself a Colombian necktie.

Hillary's self-inflicted gash will be her legacy.

Beautiful.


GravatarAre fembots the ones that spout dangerous feminist talking points?

I thought they were the ones that fought Steve Austin and Jaime Summers.


Omigod I had forgotten all about that.

Jaime ... sweet Jaime.


GravatarThe money...didn't appear.

you should sue whomever lied to you and said there's money in this.


Gravatarthers, eating a lot of bacon doesn't make on have "moral integrity." jsyk.

That's what the whiskey is for. "Integrity goggles."


Gravatarthere's really nothing humourous about a child's death.

i can't try to score points off that.

i understand what you're trying to say but really there's nothing worse.



which goes back to the aumf vote.


GravatarNo other reason at all, because only Hillary is a woman, so all other women are unaffected by sexism becoming mainstream acceptable.
Echidne

Dear god, I'm behind the times. I thought they had finally decided Hillary was a lesbian murderous ball-breaking unfaithful man-eating bitch....


GravatarIf I don't cut it, it becomes a $100 ticket from the town... Thers

WTF? Aren't you in the middle of the woods anyway? Tell them you're zeroscaping.


GravatarOmigod I had forgotten all about that.

Jaime ... sweet Jaime.


Lindsey Wagner still looks great, too!

Though I only ever see her in commercials now.


GravatarAdding, does this mean I don't need to feel guilty for not offering to mow Thers' lawn. After all, that is men's work.


GravatarHillary has given herself a Colombian necktie.

Hillary's self-inflicted gash will be her legacy.

Beautiful.
Thanks, Hillary! | 05.24.08 - 4:53 pm | #

Thanks for proving all my points.


Gravataram on my like sixth shot


Gravataryou should sue whomever lied to you and said there's money in this.

It's probably those "What Color Is Your Parachute" people.


GravatarOK, all entries have performed, 15 minute voting period now.


GravatarFine then. I don't offer to pay the yard guy for just anyone.

What I really want is for the 8-Year-Old to get old enough to do it, but he persists in only getting one year older on each of his birthdays. Disobedient child.


Gravatarhttp://www.politico.com/news/sto...0508/ 10585.html

GOP strategists mull McCain ‘blowout’

“We’re actually sitting pretty well in most states.”


The only question: Will McCain win 45 states, or just 40 in November?


Gravatarhillary is the victim of sexism as every woman is AND a privileged multi-millionaire who voted for war.

so, uh...


GravatarYou could come and play hide-and-seek in my "lawn" instead. Or roll it down. - Echidne


No Flirting!


Gravatarvoting will be coming up next, the whole point to watch Eurovision

if you wonder why Europe has had a tough time with unity, it bares all


GravatarAfter all, that is men's work.

If I didn't know you... 


Gravatarmy grrlcat just did the most amazing double back flip jump up onto the chair. can i please come back as a kitteh? i want to be able to do that, and look so fucking cute at the same time. right now i've only sort of got the cute part...is it wrong to be jealous of your cat?


GravatarBecause there is no other reason to be angry about that than the sole desire to have Hillary Clinton the president. No other reason at all, because only Hillary is a woman, so all other women are unaffected by sexism becoming mainstream acceptable. Echidne

Wow, that's a lot of insight and big words for a woman! [pats head, files will]


GravatarNo other reason at all, because only Hillary is a woman, so all other women are unaffected by sexism becoming mainstream acceptable.

I think mainstream sexism has become increasingly unacceptable over the past 100 years.

What did I miss? Is this a porn thing?


GravatarQuiltlady,

I hope you have noticed that I have been pretty much aghast at the people's reaction to Hillary's misstatement. What she said was really something she should not have said but that is all it was. The reaction she is garnering is, IMHO, much worse that what she said. What is it with people? I am missing something here.

I think she should leave because she cannot win and continuing to disrupt the process is detrimental to the party. That is all. Sheesh!


Gravatarnote to self:

do not think about presidential candidates for the rest of the weekend.

have a nap.


GravatarJust finished my lawn. Not doing anyone else's.

Mother and MIL coming for dinner. Will report later.


Gravataramerovision must be right around the corner.

I would love to see a show where unknown artists performed songs with their own composition, arrangements and lyrics. American Idol, not so much.


GravatarIt's probably those "What Color Is Your Parachute" people.

So YOU'RE the one who moved my cheese!


GravatarThe only question: Will McCain win 45 states, or just 40 in November?
American Hawk | 05.24.08 - 4:55 pm | #

the correct anser is: 5 at most, if he lives that long, which is unlikely.


Gravatarhillary is the victim of sexism as every woman is AND a privileged multi-millionaire who voted for war.

so, uh...


The point is not her. She can take care of herself, what with all that money and influence. The point is that the sexism is used against other people when it becomes respectable by being used against her, what with her being a monster bitch from hell.


GravatarWTF? Aren't you in the middle of the woods anyway? Tell them you're zeroscaping.

We're country but most of the town is Pleasant SubUrbia, with all the fascist lawn regulations such regimes are notorious for.


GravatarGOP strategists mull McCain ‘blowout’

Oh no! And Republican predictions for 6 months hence have always proven 100% accurate!


GravatarSo YOU'RE the one who moved my cheese!

watertiger


Blog commenting is one of the 7 habits of highly effective people


GravatarI hates it when I bend down to pull a wild grape vine up & a damned snake jumps out from a foot away.


Gravatarwould love to see a show where unknown artists performed songs with their own composition, arrangements and lyrics. American Idol, not so much.
Willendorf Venus | 05.24.08 - 4:56 pm | #


yes. actual artists who are growing at their own speed, etc...


cbc radio, late night, plays a ton of these young indy artists.
very skilled, lots of insights, talent, energy, etc...


GravatarGOP strategists mull McCain ‘blowout’

They've got a lock on the States of

Stupidity
Denial
Benightment
Mendacity
Cluelessness


GravatarUnfortunately Hillary is supposed to desex herself to run for prez. Remember when they had a fit over her actually having cleavage?


Gravatar
We're country but most of the town is Pleasant SubUrbia


I always pegged you for a little bit rock 'n roll.


GravatarFine then. I don't offer to pay the yard guy for just anyone.
racymind


Oh, you're talking about the grass in the yard...


GravatarI thought they had finally decided Hillary was a lesbian murderous ball-breaking unfaithful man-eating bitch....

I'm still trying to comprehend how secret Muslim Obama was influenced so heavily by his close spiritual relationship with his radical black Christian preacher.


GravatarOh no! And Republican predictions for 6 months hence have always proven 100% accurate!
SteveNS | 05.24.08 - 4:58 pm | #


'06 comes to mind.


Gravatarthere's really nothing humourous about a child's death.

i can't try to score points off that.


I wasn't making a joke and nobody's keeping score.


Gravataris it wrong to be jealous of your cat?
chicago dyke, tired


It is expected, servant.


GravatarI hates it when I bend down to pull a wild grape vine up & a damned snake jumps out from a foot away.
1Watt, Lysenkoist

ACK!


GravatarAnd the use of racist slurs against Obama is bad for the same reason. They can't really hurt Obama, he is rich and influential. But they can hurt other black people by being made acceptable again in the process of use.


GravatarI think she should leave because she cannot win and continuing to disrupt the process is detrimental to the party. That is all. Sheesh!
DWD


There are three more primaries. Let the final three vote then she should suspend her campaign. Lots of excitement and interest in the campaigns and it is not going to make any difference.


GravatarIf I don't cut it, it becomes a $100 ticket from the town... Thers

that shit's got to change. if moe were here i know he'd agree. it's ass-backwards in every way to require people to spend money and gas and chemicals and all the rest of it. my hatred for artificial lawn culture grows by the day. would they ticket you if you replaced the grass with wildflowers? you never have to mow that, plus: butterflies and hummingbirds.


GravatarBREAKING:

"GOP strategists mull McCain ‘blowout’; Idiocy only believed by sub-moron level wingnut trolls"

Developing, must credit Thers...


GravatarThe point is that the sexism is used against other people when it becomes respectable by being used against her, what with her being a monster bitch from hell.
Echidne | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 4:57 pm | #


okay i see your point


GravatarAmerican Hawk is running scared, making predictions that mcStain would actually win any states.


GravatarThe point is that the sexism is used against other people when it becomes respectable by being used against her, what with her being a monster bitch from hell.

Good thing she'll never be President, then.


GravatarThanks for proving all my points.
commit yourself, now


heh. When a trool posts the above, it's ass out for said trool.


GravatarThere are three more primaries. Let the final three vote then she should suspend her campaign. Lots of excitement and interest in the campaigns and it is not going to make any difference.
qlª

OK with me but can she stop with the crazy shit?


GravatarI hate it when a hand reaches down and starts tearing up my environment. Scares the crap out of me.


GravatarIf I don't cut it, it becomes a $100 ticket from the town...

I know it's been suggested before; get a goat.  Maybe Mickey Kaus has a couple available.


GravatarAnd DWD, I'm very fond of you and sad when you are not feeling well, but you recently wrote that women are gentle and patient creatures, so yes, I'm not sure how much thought you have spent on the topic of feminism and women's rights in general.


GravatarWeekend Rooftop Blogging: Green Roof Edition.


Gravatar
Blog commenting is one of the 7 habits of highly effective people


Is that according to "The One Minute Blogger'?


GravatarEchidne, dammit, stop making so much damn sense!


GravatarOkay Thers. I will mow my lawn for you.
racymind


I mow my wife's lawn for her.


Wait. "Mowing the lawn" IS a euphemism, isn't it?


GravatarI wasn't making a joke and nobody's keeping score.
Stunt Woman | 05.24.08 - 4:59 pm | #


i know. i know.
didn't mean to slag you.


GravatarWhat I really want is for the 8-Year-Old to get old enough to do it, but he persists in only getting one year older on each of his birthdays. Disobedient child.
Thers


Our 10-year-old is currently being trained on the front yard with a push mower. Soon he will be introduced to the whole 1/2 acre & that of his gparents next door as well.


GravatarI always pegged you for a little bit rock 'n roll.

I should get a mower that has more crazy crazy horsepower.


GravatarOkay Thers. I will mow my lawn for you.
racymind

I mow my wife's lawn for her.


Wait. "Mowing the lawn" IS a euphemism, isn't it?
jac

So when you use the weedwacker, it's by yourself, right?


GravatarI know it's been suggested before; get a goat. Maybe Mickey Kaus has a couple available.

It would be irresponsible not to speculate.


GravatarI know it's been suggested before; get a goat. Maybe Mickey Kaus has a couple available.

watertiger |


Those goats are just going to lay around and expect beer to be brought to them. Don't become a victim of "Blown Goat Syndrome".


GravatarAnice little story for Memorial Day, the observance of all those that died for our Constitution & way of life:

http://www.rawstory.com/news/ moc...t_05242008.html




yea Snake, I'm glad you're more scared than me.


GravatarThe only question: Will McCain win 45 states, or just 40 in November?
American Hawk


McCunt can't even get his base to give him money.


Gonna be a looooooong 5 months for you simple motherfuckers, Squawk.


GravatarI know it's been suggested before; get a goat. Maybe Mickey Kaus has a couple available.

And if he starts blowing pigs, he could keep you in fresh bacon till the Rapture!


Gravatar
Those goats are just going to lay around and expect beer to be brought to them. Don't become a victim of "Blown Goat Syndrome".







Gravatari luv the scoring, can't wait for it


GravatarAnd DWD, I'm very fond of you and sad when you are not feeling well, but you recently wrote that women are gentle and patient creatures, so yes, I'm not sure how much thought you have spent on the topic of feminism and women's rights in general.
Echidne

Read Mother Nature, a History of Mothers, Infants and Natural Selection by Sarah Blaffer Hrdy, and no one will ever sentimentalize mothers again...


GravatarBlog commenting is one of the 7 habits of highly effective people
racymin


snort. i wonder if there's a way to use your blog in a manner in keeping with the Franklin Planner System.

goddess E- if you could convince OCD types like my sis that there is, you could still get rich blogging. she's such a sucker for that sort of crap.


Gravatarmy partner is gentle--------sometimes------and very loving, but--------

she's tough as nails and smart as hell.

and she's been a feminist since she was a teenager.


GravatarAnd if he starts blowing pigs, he could keep you in fresh bacon till the Rapture!



Gravatarbut most of the town is Pleasant SubUrbia, with all the fascist lawn regulations such regimes are notorious for

When crabgrass is outlawed only outlaws will have crabgrass!


GravatarSo when you use the weedwacker, it's by yourself, right?
ellroon bitterful




GravatarIndeed, as Republicans experience their worst days since Watergate, those same GOP strategists are reticent to publicly tout the prospect of a sizable McCain victory for fear of looking foolish.

Well, after first predicting the Republican landslide in 2006, what have you got to lose?


GravatarI vote for Bosnia-Herzegovina.


Gravatarand she also thinks that my dislike of hillary clinton is partially fuelled by sexism.

so there you go.


GravatarUnfortunately Hillary is supposed to desex herself to run for prez.
How about just having a basic knowledge of and honesty about the facts?

She said in March (was she already fatigued back then?) that the '68 nomination process ran "longer" than now. WTF? That's just not true.

She said Bill wasn't the presumptive nominee until California voted. WTF? That's just not true.

So take 2 parts manure, and add one part gasoline - using the word "assassination"- ignite the mixture and see what happens.

She has done this to herself, early and often. She has no other hope than that an assassin might make an opening for her.

To repeatedly bookend with bullshit RFK's assassination up in it's 40th year, the week Ted Kennedy is diagnosed with a malignant brain tumor, and not expect to get called on it for the WMD it is?

She's either a fool or she thinks we are fools. Granted, some are, especially those who idiotically give her the benefit of the doubt.

She has done us all a favor...

She became a suicide bomber.


Gravatarit's ass-backwards in every way to require people to spend money and gas and chemicals and all the rest of it. my hatred for artificial lawn culture grows by the day. would they ticket you if you replaced the grass with wildflowers? you never have to mow that, plus: butterflies and hummingbirds.

We've doubled the garden size and planted a bunch of trees, in part to cut down on lawn area. Also I bought a reel mower, for exercise purposes and because I fucking hate gas mowers, which are very tempramental machines. But I still need the old gas mower beast for much of the lawn.


Gravatarplus: butterflies and hummingbirds.

What she said.


GravatarSo when you use the weedwacker, it's by yourself, right?

Manscaping's not for the weak.


GravatarRussia, cuz of the ice skating


GravatarAlso I bought a reel mower, for exercise purposes and because I fucking hate gas mowers, which are very tempramental machines. But I still need the old gas mower beast for much of the lawn.
Thers


What about an electric mower?


GravatarBoaz of Israel i also quite like


Gravatar
Well, after first predicting the Republican landslide in 2006, what have you got to lose?


They should go all out and predict that they're going to win the popular vote on Alpha Centauri, too.


GravatarMy top five:

Turkey
Ukraine
Finland
UK
Poland (can't forget them!)


GravatarI vote Russia. I kind of liked Georgia because they had a song about Peace.


GravatarOur 10-year-old is currently being trained on the front yard with a push mower. Soon he will be introduced to the whole 1/2 acre & that of his gparents next door as well.
Willendorf Venus


you all are pikers. sis bought the nephew a pretend mower and he started using that at 2.5, i expect she'll have him behind the real thing in a year or two. sis believes in "strength thru discipline" method of childrearing. it's going to be so fun to be the Nice Aunt you can Drink with, when he's old enough to need the escape.


GravatarAnd DWD, I'm very fond of you and sad when you are not feeling well, but you recently wrote that women are gentle and patient creatures, so yes, I'm not sure how much thought you have spent on the topic of feminism and women's rights in general.

Sadly, snake goddess, I think that he's thought about it far too much.


Gravatarwomen are like hummingbirds and butterflies

with fangs and psychedelic mushroom farms


---carl jaspers
author of
'my twin is made of clay, isn't yours?'


GravatarThe Mets have five innings left to blow their big lead -- wonder how they'll do it...


Gravatar


GravatarAlso I bought a reel mower, for exercise purposes and because I fucking hate gas mowers, which are very tempramental machines.

I love my reel mower, but it is a LOT more work using it if the grass gets long.

Oh well, keeps me from being lazy.


GravatarEchidne,

I really do not have time (physically - left) to encounter this argument. The truth is that people are different. From each other and from each other sexually. There are sexual differences between men and women beyond the physical. (Thank goodness)

I disagree vehemently with those who disagree with that statement. I have spend a lifetime watching and nurturing children of both sexes as they grow and mature into men and women. There are differences in their approaches to problems, interpersonal relationships, and learning styles. This is beyond arguing as far as I am concerned.

The problems arise when one tries to qualify these differences. Is one way better than another? No. It is like a coin: there are two sides. The same thing only different.

So, do women perceive the world (in general) differently? Yes, I believe they do. Is this difference "Less?" Of course not.

But it is real.


Gravatarmy top 5

Ukraine
Russia
Israel
UK
Spain


Gravatarvoting eurovisian finale
with lawnmowers roaring
and hummingbirds hovering around the white house


GravatarOnce Obama is free to really run at McShithead, he will pound him into cracker crumbs. Debates? Might as well get a mop for the Repukes. What is mcCain going to say? After 8 years of treason, failure, incompetence, lies, theft, mass murder, international embarrassment, economic disaster, resurgent racism, declining educational levels, crumbling infrastructure, one lost city, two lost multi-billion dollar buildings, a successful attack allowed on the PENTAGON, the perps still running a video studio, and Mccain's inability to mount a fundraiser in the biggest city of his own state, what will he say? ey, they may well try to steal it again, but that will just lead to their destruction, perhaps violently. It's over for the GOP, all but the sniffling and whining.


Gravatarand France because they sang about the milky way.


GravatarThe Mets have five innings left to blow their big lead -- wonder how they'll do it... Thers

By being insufficiently godly. Duh!


GravatarAnd DWD, I'm very fond of you and sad when you are not feeling well, but you recently wrote that women are gentle and patient creatures, so yes, I'm not sure how much thought you have spent on the topic of feminism and women's rights in general.


Can one of the experts tell whether the word "bitch" is per se "sexist"? I mean, is referring to an asshole woman as a bitch like referring to a black guy as a nigger?

I'm not talking on TV. I'm talking about here.

I don't think I've ever called Hillary a bitch, for what it's worth. I just think she's a stupid and incredibly irritating politician with a huge ego. Frankly, I'm ecstatic that she will soon be disappearing from our discourse. I mean, by next January of course when the court cases are settled or decided.


GravatarI know it's been suggested before; get a goat.

Ever see what a goat (or sheep) do to grass?

All the boy had left would be dirt.


GravatarI don't need to feel guilty for not offering to mow Thers' lawn. After all, that is men's work.
qlª


True story:

The first spring after we bought this place, my lovely bride shyly came up to me and asked, "can I mow the lawn?" She had never been allowed to while growing up.

To this day, she mows it more than I do.


GravatarWhat about an electric mower?

Too much of a pain in the ass with extension cords, etc. Our yard isn't really of the right dimensions.


GravatarManscaping's not for the weak.

Not, it's not.

[lameass video taped off the tv]


Gravatarit's going to be so fun to be the Nice Aunt you can Drink with, when he's old enough to need the escape.


You have no idea. I have loved being the odd Aunt who takes you out to v expensive places and buys you whatever you want, listens to whatever you say, approves of you, and then says something so outrageous that what you said sounds safe and warm. It's a safe place in the storm that every kid should have.


Gravataranother dress change

not a fan of the male presenters silk suit


Gravatar
By being insufficiently godly. Duh!


Hmmm... I wonder if the Metropolitans' epic collapse last fall had anything to do with the goings-on down in the Village...


GravatarCan one of the experts tell whether the word "bitch" is per se "sexist"? I mean, is referring to an asshole woman as a bitch like referring to a black guy as a nigger?

I'm not talking on TV. I'm talking about here.
Stunt Woman


My rule of thumb here, and everywhere else, is: if the subject of the word finds it racist / sexist / whatever, it is.

Play it safe and call her a projectile-vomit-inducing fucktard.


GravatarToo much of a pain in the ass with extension cords, etc.

Mine doesn't have an extension cord. It charges up in the shed, mostly, given where I live, on nukes, and then mows the lawn w no cord. It's a bit heavier than other mowers, but I tell myself that's good for my arms.


GravatarThey should go all out and predict that they're going to win the popular vote on Alpha Centauri, too.

The GOP is the new space family Robinson.


GravatarWhat about an electric mower?

Too much of a pain in the ass with extension cords, etc. Our yard isn't really of the right dimensions.
Thers

Just put a pint of Guiness every 100 yards or so...


Gravatari love being a aunt to my niece


GravatarAll the boy had left would be dirt.


[splays hands]

See?  Problem solved!


GravatarToo much of a pain in the ass with extension cords, etc. Our yard isn't really of the right dimensions.
Thers


Well, then, you have only two choices:

a.) Blow the goats
b.) Move to Manhattan


Gravatar
You have no idea. I have loved being the odd Aunt who takes you out to v expensive places and buys you whatever you want, listens to whatever you say, approves of you, and then says something so outrageous that what you said sounds safe and warm.


Adopt me.


GravatarOoh, Serbian brass band music. (Think Kusturica films.) I love that stuff.


GravatarToo much of a pain in the ass with extension cords, etc.
Mine doesn't have an extension cord. It charges up in the shed, mostly


Err - what were we talking about again?


GravatarIt charges up in the shed, mostly, given where I live, on nukes, and then mows the lawn w no cord.

How much time do you get with a single charge?


GravatarSo, do women perceive the world (in general) differently? Yes, I believe they do. Is this difference "Less?" Of course not.

But it is real.


Here's to reality!


GravatarSo, do women perceive the world (in general) differently? Yes, I believe they do.

Well, and, of course, you would know. Do you even understand how you sound?


Gravatarthat shit's got to change. if moe were here i know he'd agree. it's ass-backwards in every way to require people to spend money and gas and chemicals and all the rest of it. my hatred for artificial lawn culture grows by the day

You'd love me. I have 3/4s of an acre.


GravatarGerman Telekom involved in idustrial espionage and breach of freedom of press

http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2008...srupted- by.html


GravatarTo this day, she mows it more than I do.
jac


Growing up, Mr. ql was excused from household chores, including cooking, because he has a dick. Same was true in my house growing up, so upon marriage I just unthinkingly did all the cooking. For 35 fucking years. Upon retirement I rather strongly suggested that we should take turns preparing meals. He's come to love cooking.


GravatarHilary is obviously the aryan nation gatekeeper from hell. Damn her to hell for all the liberal causes and work she has championed and worked for to help the people and their children in this country.


GravatarErr - what were we talking about again?
JeffCO




Gravatar
a.) Blow the goats
b.) Move to Manhattan


Manhattan is not a fit environment for goats.


GravatarHow much time do you get with a single charge?

I've never run all the way out on a single charge, but I get at least 45 minutes and there's still maybe half (?) left.


GravatarToo much of a pain in the ass with extension cords, etc.
Mine doesn't have an extension cord. It charges up in the shed, mostly

Err - what were we talking about again?




Thank you for the biggest laugh I've had all day.


GravatarDWD, I have a whole blog for these kinds of discussions and it's not something to do in a few comments in general. But the point is that the world does NOT on the whole view women as "different but equal", and that the differences between the sexes are in the shape of overlapping frequency distributions in almost all the cases (so that women do something 60% of the time, men 45% of the time), so that the false dualism can be misleading. Then we also don't know the relative influences of upbringing and biology and how they interact.


GravatarI had always assumed that Hillary hatred was just that: dislike of a particular individual. But I am still waiting to see what will happen when the next woman rises to that level of prominence. I read people who criticize Nancy Pelosi, but for her policy positions, not for her personality. Condoleeza (sp?) Rice is criticized, but she works for a morally bankrupt administration.

I will be interested to see how women politicians of my generation (born in 1960s) are evaluated.


GravatarManhattan is not a fit environment for goats.

[looks out window]

Tell that to them!


Gravatarhec, that's what i expect. actually, she's not that harsh and i sort of understand. she's raising an endangered species of human (black male) and he won't be able to make mistakes like his white friends will and get away with it. no, he loves her and always will and is a good boy. but neice? heh, that's the rock that will break sis's will. i can see it already; niece is going to be a Princess who won't be denied. just like my (spoiled rotten missy perfect younger) sister used to be...


GravatarManhattan is not a fit environment for goats.
Thers


OR. A OR B.

Jesus.


GravatarSo, do women perceive the world (in general) differently? Yes, I believe they do.

Well, and, of course, you would know. Do you even understand how you sound?


No, it's true. For example, women are much better able to perceive when men are talking like jackasses about women than men are, in my experience.


GravatarShe became a suicide bomber.
Thank you, Hillary. | 05.24.08 - 5:06 pm | #

Well, she'll remain in the Senate, where she was reelected by huge margins, and where she does a fine job for her constituents, so your "suicide bomber" comparison, once again, says far more about your illness than about her competence or electibility. It really must suck to be you, or be around you, with all that insane rage and blind hatred of women waiting to explode. I feel very sorry for any female within your reach, unless they are armed or well-trained in self-defense. You're a sick fuck.


Gravatar[splays hands]

See? Problem solved!


heh.

You funny lady.



GravatarUnlike Ms. Jolie, who thinks we should stay in Iraq indefinitely:


http://www6.comcast.net/articles....Jessica.Lange/


GravatarHecate: I do the same thing too with my nieces and nephews. Dragged them all over New England, New York, Europe, etc. Always thrilled to see them but glad when they go back to school or home.


GravatarNo, it's true. For example, women are much better able to perceive when men are talking like jackasses about women than men are, in my experience.
Thers




GravatarHow much time do you get with a single charge?
Thers | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 5:14 pm | #

three beers.


GravatarManhattan is not a fit environment for goats.

[scratches Manhattan off list for safehouse]


GravatarHow much time do you get with a single charge?



I've never run all the way out on a single charge, but I get at least 45 minutes and there's still maybe half (?) left.

I find that Sr. y Sra. Tomas mow the front yard, do the edging and sweeping of all the leftover leaves and grass on a single charge of  $50/month. 


GravatarFor example, women are much better able to perceive when men are talking like jackasses about women than men are, in my experience.

Jackass.


GravatarYou funny lady.

[scuffs dirt with shoe]

Aw, thanks.  I do what I can.


Gravatarbut neice? heh, that's the rock that will break sis's will. i can see it already; niece is going to be a Princess who won't be denied. just like my (spoiled rotten missy perfect younger) sister used to be...

You'll have so much fun. My nephews love me, but my niece adores me. I've been a mother and a nonna and an aunt and I have to say that, of the three, I love being nonna best, but aunt is the most pure fun.


GravatarI am still waiting to see what will happen when the next woman rises to that level of prominence.

Two words: Justice Ginsberg.

At this very moment, she's far more important to the US than Hillary Clinton ever was or will be.


GravatarNo, it's true. For example, women are much better able to perceive when men are talking like jackasses about women than men are, in my experience.
Thers




Another pearl of wisdom.

You still have to mow the lawn.

I'm enjoying your book very much, btw. Even learning a thing or two.


GravatarYou'd love me. I have 3/4s of an acre.
billy b


of grass or flowers?

actually, i'm just going to sit back and enjoy the destruction of artificial lawn culture, because it's coming/is already here. people just don't know it yet. all that open space is wasted energy, and the days of cheap energy are Over. put it to use or starve, will be the option for some.


GravatarFor example, women are much better able to perceive when men are talking like jackasses about women than men are, in my experience.

Jackass.


See, this is why I love you.


Gravatarwomen are more intuitive than men.

generally.


that's a difference.


and there are huge physical differences.

childbirth capabilities for one.


GravatarNo, it's true. For example, women are much better able to perceive when men are talking like jackasses about women than men are, in my experience. Thers

Crap. I have nothing to add.


GravatarI've never run all the way out on a single charge, but I get at least 45 minutes and there's still maybe half (?) left.

Oy, not sure that would work... I'll keep it in mind if gas prices keep rising, though.


GravatarI found 8 words to describe Christian Conservative Republicans:
Proud, avaricious, angry, slothful, envious, gluttonous, anti-sex bigots.


Gravataraunt is the most pure fun.

True dat.




Gravataranother dress change

another shot


GravatarNo, it's true. For example, women are much better able to perceive when men are talking like jackasses about women than men are, in my experience.
Thers | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 5:17 pm | #

this is, as anyone can plainly see, the fault of their mothers.


GravatarTwo words: Justice Ginsberg.

At this very moment, she's far more important to the US than Hillary Clinton ever was or will be.


In many ways the Supreme Court is ultimately more important than the next president, at least in the longer run. Because if we get a court which always rules for corporations, always rules against workers, always rules against civil rights and human rights, well, then we are going to be in deep shit.


Gravatar[scuffs dirt with shoe]




GravatarThe biggest problem here in turning lawn into something else is busting up the combination of grass sod and clay. It take A LOT of work with a roto-tiller.


GravatarCrap. I have nothing to add.

I'd just edit it:  "talking like" to "are".


Gravatarthere are huge . . . tracts of land!
juan ono



Fixed your typo.


GravatarI'm so glad that stupid drink your milkshake thing can now be retired and we can move on the the I mow your lawn phase.


Gravatarunfortunately Ginsberg is hangin on by a thread i think but if Hillary cannot be elected and is destroyed by her own party as has happened, no woman except some conservative freak in the future will be elected.


Gravatartracts of land...


heh


Gravatarwomen are more intuitive than men.


~Sigh


GravatarOR. A OR B.

Jesus.


Goat, Manhattan, or Jesus?

I choose cake.


GravatarSo what about all the women who have said that "we need a woman in the white house"?

Are they confused jackasses?

Or is it an affirmative action thing?


GravatarLike I said, the misogynistic fuck with the many names is giving killfile a real workout.

Who let that asshole off his meds?


GravatarIn any case, feminism is not about trying to prove that women are exactly like men. Feminism is demanding that both women and men are seen as human beings, equally valid versions of the basic species, and that the society be organized to give both women and men equal opportunites for meaningful and productive lives.


Gravatarof grass or flowers?


A half acre of flowers?

Actually, all of the above.

Trees, bushes, flowers, plants, lawn.

I like to garden.


Gravatar[looks out window]

You have a WINDOW?

Cardboard box here.


Gravatarunfortunately Ginsberg is hangin on by a thread i think but if Hillary cannot be elected and is destroyed by her own party as has happened, no woman except some conservative freak in the future will be elected.

Right. Cuz all women are like Hillary. Round and round the bullshit goes.


GravatarI'd just edit it: "talking like" to "are".

Umm, wouldn't that make it "men are are jackasses?"


GravatarWho let that asshole off his meds?
Terry C


I blame Thers, for refusing to blow the goats.


GravatarThe biggest problem here in turning lawn into something else is busting up the combination of grass sod and clay. It take A LOT of work with a roto-tiller.
leibniz leibkins


no, actually, you don't. there are many ways to naturalize a lawn without tilling. one way is to pick flowers that can compete with grass, and take over the space over time. i know of several that can do this. another way is to simply cover the lawn with compost, recycled materials and such like, and then put in flowers on top. you can also burn it out, but moe wouldn't like to hear me say that.


GravatarI found 8 words to describe Christian Conservative Republicans:
Proud, avaricious, angry, slothful, envious, gluttonous, anti-sex bigots.
George Johnston


What do they have to be proud of, I wonder.


Gravatarwomen are more intuitive than men.

I used to have a colleague that said women have better peripheral vision because they can always tell what is going on behind their backs.


Gravataryippie its scoring

UK's vote

Turkey 8
Latvia - 10
Greece - 12


GravatarI'll keep it in mind if gas prices keep rising, though.

Course, electricity prices are going nowhere but up. So I'm not sure if it's cheaper. I find it more convenient, as I don't have to go buy gasoline for it. I charge it up and it's ready to go when I'm ready to mow. And, as noted, it's heavy.


GravatarBut don't goats taste like tin cans?


Gravatarwomen are more intuitive than men.
~Sigh


I had a feeling someone would say that.


Gravatarunfortunately Ginsberg is hangin on by a thread i think but if Hillary cannot be elected and is destroyed by her own party as has happened, no woman except some conservative freak in the future will be elected.
Scale1 | 05.24.08 - 5:23 pm | #

Well, in spite of the misogyny trolls, and the general disgust with all things Clinton, Hillary was not destroyed by her party so much as by her party's hacks, who have long overstayed their welcome. She ran a poor campaign, and failed to connect with the lefty base, who would have been the ones to activate the GOTV and fundraising. I disagree with you totally that a more conservative dem female is needed. had she tacked to the left, she would have had this sewn up before Obama got any traction.


GravatarVoting result are now being tallied. Macedonia's spokesperson is teh strange.


GravatarF.Y.R Macedonia

Azerbaijan - 8
Serbia - 10 (what a surprise)
Albania - 12


GravatarFeminism is demanding that both women and men are seen as human beings, equally valid versions of the basic species, and that the society be organized to give both women and men equal opportunites for meaningful and productive lives.

I don't know any reasonable person opposed to these concepts.


GravatarIn any case, feminism is not about trying to prove that women are exactly like men. Feminism is demanding that both women and men are seen as human beings, equally valid versions of the basic species, and that the society be organized to give both women and men equal opportunites for meaningful and productive lives.
Echidne


WORD


GravatarSo what about all the women who have said that "we need a woman in the white house"?

Are they confused jackasses?

Or is it an affirmative action thing?


If you can, visualize a country where a man has never been a president. Why would having one in that situation have benefits to other men? For instance, when your mother-in-law tells you that all men are good for is violence, watching football and boozing, you could point out that the president is a man and is leading the free world?

Or when your boss won't promote you because you are a penis-driven low-attention-span boob ogler you could point out that some men do just fine in positions that demand skill?

None of this is to support Hillary Clinton as the candidate, but to explain why women might like the idea of a female president in general.


GravatarSee The Natural Superiority of Women
By Ashley Montagu.


Gravatar
Cardboard box here.


I can lend you a box cutter.


GravatarWhat do they have to be proud of, I wonder.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal

Of how Christian and religious they are.


GravatarI don't know any reasonable person opposed to these concepts.
Stunt Woman



Conservatards aren't reasonable.


GravatarSo what about all the women who have said that "we need a woman in the white house"?

Are they confused jackasses?


I don't think that I'm a confused jackass. YMMV.


GravatarUkraine votes

Georgia - 8
Azerbaijan - 10
Russia - 12 (no surprise there)


GravatarAre they confused jackasses? Or is it an affirmative action thing? Stunt Woman

Why do persist in pretending there is or ever has been anything remotely resembling gender equity in this society?


GravatarUmm, wouldn't that make it "men are are jackasses?"

I'm gonna give you *such* a PINCH!


GravatarOr when your boss won't promote you because you are a penis-driven low-attention-span boob ogler
Echidne


OK, who's been reading my HR file?!?!?!


GravatarNow we see how the coutries that had recently been at war with each other vote for each other.


Gravatarone way is to pick flowers that can compete with grass, and take over the space over time.

I think about 10 percent of my backyard is overtaken by little pink-purple... phlox, maybe? And the percentage grows a little every year.


GravatarOr when your boss won't promote you because you are a penis-driven low-attention-span boob ogler

Crap. That explains my lack of promotion potential.


GravatarGermany

Serbia - 8
Turkey - 10
Greece - 12


GravatarSo what about all the women who have said that "we need a woman in the white house"?

i think that's more to do with breaking the Ultimate Glass Ceiling. when that shatters, others may as well. no feminist in my reading is arguing that a vaginal-prezint alone will mean Great Difference in Gummint. indeed, as you all like to bitch so often, hillary is clearly as disappointing as any man and her c*** hasn't helped her make good decisions about the war, etc.


GravatarI can lend you a box cutter.

watertiger

Proof that liberal bloggers are terrorists!


Gravatarpenis-driven low-attention-span boob ogler

Album name!


GravatarI disagree with you totally that a more conservative dem female is needed. had she tacked to the left, she would have had this sewn up before Obama got any traction.

Had she voted against the AUMF her inevitability campaign would have been absolutely correct. As it was, people hated her vote, and she paid it be becoming the inevitable loser.


GravatarEstonia

Norway - 8
Finland - 10
Russia - 12


GravatarEstonia sticks with northern countries.


GravatarI had a feeling someone would say that.

You men are so gentle, sensitive, feeling. You pick up on others' emotions so quickly, so intuitively. You're so attuned to others. It's your special gift. You must be sheltered and protected in order to nourish this gift.


GravatarI thought that read ultimate GRASS ceiling.


GravatarOr when your boss won't promote you because you are a penis-driven low-attention-span boob ogler

[shuffles papers furiously and makes pretend important phone call]


GravatarRonjass, it seems to have missed you but Hillary is way to the left of Obama.


GravatarI'm gonna give you *such* a PINCH! watertiger

[divergent emotions]


GravatarBosnia and Herzegovina

Turkey - 8
Croatia - 10
Serbia - 12

Balkan countries stick together


GravatarBosnia gives top points to Serbia, who could have predicted?


GravatarYou men are so gentle, sensitive, feeling. You pick up on others'
emotions so quickly, so intuitively. You're so attuned to others. It's
your special gift. You must be sheltered and protected in order to
nourish this gift.


But damn, when you boys are on the RAG?  SHEESH!


GravatarRonjass, it seems to have missed you but Hillary is way to the left of Obama.



No she's not.


Gravatarpenis-driven low-attention-span boob ogler

You say it like it's a bad thing...


GravatarEchidne,

Well, I think we are in agreement at least to a certain point. But please do not put words in my mouth.

One can perceive anything they would like (and often do) so I guess YMMV.

You really should teach ten year olds for a few years. The recess periods are the most telling. I have sat and watched my boys and girls at play and the differences are absolutely startling.

(I have company now and will be in and out but sometime I will give you an idea of what I have learned in twenty five years of observation. It may surprise you.)


GravatarAlbania

Ukraine - 8
Turkey - 10
Greece - 12


GravatarStats from the latest New Yorker:

John Paul Stevens = 88 years old

Ruth Bader Ginsburg = 75 years old

David Souter = (only 68, "but longs for his home in New Hampshire")

Truly scary. We need a Democratic President in 08.


GravatarWe need a woman in the White House because we don't need a white man in the White House. We need whoever is ready to do the job of being the American President. It's thoroughly embarrassing to me that we have had nothing but white men, many of them abject failures, in the White House from day one. It bespeaks a less-than-civilized society, and most certainly an unenlightened one.


GravatarProud, avaricious, angry, slothful, envious, gluttonous, vagina fearing closet case homosexual bigots.
George Johnston


fyt.


GravatarI don't know any reasonable person opposed to these concepts.
Stunt Woman


Some people have a hard time accepting the concept that white male privilege is not merit-based.


GravatarWomen are too emotional to have any kind of rational discussion with.


GravatarYou men are so gentle, sensitive, feeling. You pick up on others' emotions so quickly, so intuitively. You're so attuned to others. It's your special gift. You must be sheltered and protected in order to nourish this gift.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |


We need to put you on a pedestal by treating you like second class citizens.


Gravatar I will give you an idea of what I have learned in twenty five years of observation. It may surprise you.

Oddly, I doubt it.


GravatarBelgium

Greece - 8
Turkey - 10
Armenia - 12


Gravatarone way is to pick flowers that can compete with grass, and take over the space over time.

Like dandelions! And thistles!

I'm already there!


GravatarWell, she'll remain in the Senate, where she was reelected by huge margins, and where she does a fine job for her constituents


We'll see how charitable they feel now, won't we?

Methinks she & Nancy might be best off to rent a convertible and pull a Thelma & Louise.



Gravatar43 different feeds from 43 different countries are participating in this. I thought Europe didn't even have toilet paper.


GravatarI thought I saw a rose-beaked boob ogler this morning but it was just a whipitoutwill.


GravatarBut the story I told you above applies equally to blacks. Having a black president, or one who is viewed as black, can do wonderful things for the self-esteem of black children.

That we have both a black candidate and a woman candidate is both absolutely fantastic and absolutely awful at the same time.


GravatarIn any case, feminism is not about trying to prove that women are exactly like men. Feminism is demanding that both women and men are seen as human beings, equally valid versions of the basic species, and that the society be organized to give both women and men equal opportunites for meaningful and productive lives.
Echidne

Final thought: when have I EVER said anything remotely different from this?


GravatarRonjass, it seems to have missed you but Hillary is way to the left of Obama.
Scale1


Do you have a high fever with those fits?

Jesus H Christ.


GravatarStats from the latest New Yorker:

John Paul Stevens = 88 years old

Ruth Bader Ginsburg = 75 years old

David Souter = (only 68, "but longs for his home in New Hampshire")

Truly scary. We need a Democratic President in 08.


Once again, mer sums it up.


GravatarRonjass, it seems to have missed you but Hillary is way to the left of Obama.
Scale1 | 05.24.08 - 5:30 pm | #

You're a fuckwit. That is all.


Gravatarthanks, chi dy, much better...


Gravatar
None of this is to support Hillary Clinton as the candidate, but to explain why women might like the idea of a female president in general.


Or why men might like the idea of a female president, for that matter.

Or why blacks might like the idea of a black president.

Laudable positions, provided the benefits of the general ("a woman"; "a black") outweigh the negatives of the specific individuals.


GravatarSan Marino

UK gets 6 points, yippie

Armenia - 8
Israel - 10
Greece - 12


GravatarSome people have a hard time accepting the concept that white male privilege is not merit-based. Willendorf Venus

not. merit. based. [scribbles notes]


Gravataroh, and billy b: pics are always welcome. i put a bunch up of my fleurs at corrente the other day, take a gander.

Estonia sticks with northern countries.
Marcellina


racists.


GravatarOddly, I doubt it.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator

You really have a closed mind of late, Hecate. That is too bad. I harbor no ill feelings toward you. I wish it were the same.


GravatarFinal thought: when have I EVER said anything remotely different from this?

Almost every time you put your fingers on the keys.


GravatarFinal thought: when have I EVER said anything remotely different from this?

Never, DWD, that I have seen.


GravatarLativa

Georgia - 8
Ukraine - 10
Russia - 12 (predicable)


GravatarSan Marino gets to VOTE?


Gravatar43 different feeds from 43 different countries are participating in this. I thought Europe didn't even have toilet paper.
Scale1 | 05.24.08 - 5:33 pm | #

of course you did. That's why you're a fuckwit.


Gravatartop 3 countries

Greece
Russia
Turkey


GravatarTerry it is patently obvious and has been for a long time that you don't know a damned thing about anything.


GravatarYou really have a closed mind of late, Hecate. That is too bad

Oh, if only I could have an open and brilliant mind such as yours.

Dude, give it a rest.


GravatarI thought I saw a rose-beaked boob ogler this morning but it was just a whipitoutwill.

Has he shown you his nuthatch?


GravatarYou men are so gentle, sensitive, feeling. You pick up on others' emotions so quickly, so intuitively. You're so attuned to others. It's your special gift. You must be sheltered and protected in order to nourish this gift.

QUICK! SOMEBODY PULL MY FINGER!


GravatarSan Marino gets to VOTE?

Jesse Jackson won San Marino, so it doesn't count.


GravatarBulgaria

Armenia - 8
Greece - 10
Germany 12 (wow!)


Gravatar(I have company now and will be in and out but sometime I will give you an idea of what I have learned in twenty five years of observation. It may surprise you.)

I have some decades of observation under my belt, too. astonishingly. I have seen the oddest things, sometimes.

Once I went to one of those mall playgrounds with a good feminist friend and her toddler daughter. The daughter went over to play with the plastic weight-lifting equipment. Her mother steered her to the plastic kitchen, without ever realizing that she did that.

Now, I'm not at all saying that there are no differences among toddlers in interest. But children don't grow in isolation from the society, and they pick up stuff somewhere. Also, as far as I can tell, sex differences seem to really be maximized in behavior in the years around 10-13 and then they diminish.


GravatarHas he shown you his nuthatch?




Gravataryeah, ronjassy, a fuckwit who has lived in Europe for many years--and other countries.


GravatarMean people really do suck.


GravatarLike dandelions! And thistles!

I'm seriously going to plant thistles in my new herb bed. One person's weed, and all. . . .


GravatarSerbia

Greece - 8
Russia - 12
Bosnia and Herzegovina - 12


GravatarScale1 | 05.24.08 - 5:35 pm | #

[opens fly]

[pulls out pecker]

[pisses on stupid motherfucking trool]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

How do you spell relief?

P. I. S. S.


GravatarAnybody got a clue on this rumor of Michele Obama whitey tape? It sure as circulated without a shred of evidence.


GravatarYou men are so gentle, sensitive, feeling. You pick up on others' emotions so quickly, so intuitively. You're so attuned to others. It's your special gift. You must be sheltered and protected in order to nourish this gift.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 5:30 pm | #


may i say 'crapola' to that:

the meaning of 'intuition' has to do with the unseen connection between things.
not some ridiculous victorian ideal.


GravatarIsrael

Armenia - 8
Ukraine - 10
Russia - 12


GravatarQUICK! SOMEBODY PULL MY FINGER!

Please hug Dez and Liz for me!!!!!!!


GravatarHow smart is the trool?

On a scale of 1 to 100...


GravatarWhat the hell are you nattering on about Europe not having toilet paper? That's an old American story, is all.


Gravatar
I'm seriously going to plant thistles in my new herb bed. One person's weed, and all. . . .


Hee hee. They're a problem for kids running around outside in bare feet.


Gravatarbilly b I have felt sorry for your little pecker for a long time. poor baby!


GravatarCyprus

Russia - 8
Armenia - 10
Greece - 12 (i knew it!)


Gravataryeah, ronjassy, a fuckwit who has lived in Europe for many years--and other countries.
Scale1 | 05.24.08 - 5:37 pm | #

they have caves in europe, too?


Gravatarthey have caves in europe, too?

Lascaux!


Gravatar
Hee hee. They're a problem for kids running around outside in bare feet.


You allow your children to run around outside without shoes?  How positively HEATHEN!


GravatarAnd also grottos, both blue and not.


Gravatar
What the hell are you nattering on about Europe not having toilet paper? That's an old American story, is all.
Marcellina | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 5:39 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


I heard they drink beer warm over there. Makes me glad to live in America, where we have refrigerators.


GravatarMoldova

Azerbaijan - 8
Russia - 10
Romania - 12


GravatarThey're a problem for kids running around outside in bare feet.

I can totally see that. In the herb bed, though, picking them and letting them sting you is v good for arthritis. My knitting thumb loves stinging nettles.


Gravatarbilly b I have felt sorry for your little pecker for a long time. poor baby!
Scale1


I see you brought your 'A' game today, scrot.


Gravatarthey have caves in europe, too?
ronjazz


Yeah, but some dumbass vandals ruined them with animal graffiti and stuff.


GravatarSounds like Elias has a new name.


GravatarHi. My name is Chicago Dyke, and I am a complete kluzt. /eyes stack of dvds all over floor/ sigh. i really want to be a cat now.


GravatarYou allow your children to run around outside without shoes? How positively HEATHEN!

Their idea, usually. The 3-Year-Old also does not necessarily believe in pants, either.


GravatarMoldova

They use a caucus. Doesn't count.


Gravataryeah, ronjassy, a fuckwit who has lived in Europe for many years--and other countries.
Scale1 | 05.24.08 - 5:37 pm | #

Are you the only fuckwit in Europe? It seems unlikely, but not impossible.


GravatarIceland

France - 8
Norway - 10
Denmark - 12 (lucky guess!)


GravatarIceland actually gave 8 pts to France for that Fuck'Em display.


Gravatar Yeah, but some dumbass vandals ruined them with animal graffiti and stuff.

Simels


GravatarI don't think anyone could have predicted that growing up male in a patriarchy might make it slightly harder to realize that others perceive aspects of the society that might go unnoticed to oneself.


GravatarFinal thought: when have I EVER said anything remotely different from this?

Never, and that was not what I meant. But you state that you believe the sexes are different and equal, and I point out that the world on the whole doesn't think they are equal. So feminism is important and needed, whether all women think so or not (see your earlier post on this thread). After all, a woman can choose to relinquish equality in her own life if she so wishes, but this doesn't work the other way round (cp Saudi Arabia).


GravatarI heard they drink beer warm over there. Makes me glad to live in America, where we have refrigerators.


And, ice. Don't forget ice which makes us far superior to our Yurpeen ancestors. The Pilgrims came over here to have ice in drinks, damn it!


GravatarFrance

Portugal - 8
Turkey - 10
Armenia - 12


GravatarSounds like Elias has a new name.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 5:41 pm

I was about to say mimi, but it's two, two, two trolls in one!


GravatarPlease hug Dez and Liz for me!!!!!!!

I will later! Sweaty from walking The Mall, so I'm editing pics then gonna shower...


Gravatar Simels
The Kenosha Kid




GravatarRomania

Turkey - 8
Russia - 10
Greece - 12


GravatarThat's an old American story, is all.

I know, Marcellina. That's why i typed it. I knew it 43 years ago.


GravatarI don't think anyone could have predicted that growing up male in a patriarchy might make it slightly harder to realize that others perceive aspects of the society that might go unnoticed to oneself.

Come sit over here by me.


GravatarBy developing unique techniques for intuitively connecting with plants, the Witch can customize herbal recipes to maximum effect, giving spellwork extra potency by allowing magic to take full advantage of the power of personal style.

http://www.llewellynjournal.com/...om/article/ 1436


GravatarI don't think anyone could have predicted that growing up male in a patriarchy might make it slightly harder to realize that others perceive aspects of the society that might go unnoticed to oneself.

By "aspects of the society" I presume you mean boobs.


GravatarGermany

Serbia - 8
Turkey - 10
Greece - 12
Moonbootica, Latitude 2008 | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 5:29 pm |


Largest immigrant groups voting?


Gravatardifferent and equal,

God, I hate that phrase.


GravatarI think I'll plant trollbane.


GravatarI'm seriously going to plant thistles in my new herb bed.

Not a bad investment what with the price of milk these days.


GravatarPortugal

Latvia - 8
Spain - 10
Ukraine - 12


GravatarBy "aspects of the society" I presume you mean boobs.
Thers | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 5:44 pm | #

large tracts of land was my take.


GravatarHi. My name is Chicago Dyke, and I am a complete kluzt. /eyes stack of dvds all over floor/ sigh. i really want to be a cat now.
chicago dyke


We saw the cutest little kitten.

Well, don't need the words "cutest" & "little" in that sentence because the word "kitten" is enough. By definition a kitten is little & cute. Sooooooo tempted to bring it home.


Gravatardifferent and equal,

God, I hate that phrase.


I never want to hear "at the end of the day..." again.


GravatarLargest immigrant groups voting?

Absolutely.


GravatarWomen are too emotional to have any kind of rational discussion with.



You ARE joking, right?


Gravatardifferent and equal,

God, I hate that phrase.


Shut up, Mr Plessy.


GravatarOk, taking off my thorn helmet of feminism. What a relief!

So how did you like the Finnish half-nekked hotties in Eurovision?


GravatarBy "aspects of the society" I presume you mean boobs.

See, this is why I love you


GravatarNorway

Iceland - 8
Bosnia and Herzegovina - 10
Denmark - 12


GravatarYou allow your children to run around outside without shoes? How positively HEATHEN!

Their idea, usually. The 3-Year-Old also does not necessarily believe in pants, either.
Thers | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 5:41 pm | #


Your three yr old is NTodd?


Gravatarnot. merit. based. [scribbles notes]
JeffCO


That made me LOL. But also made me feel uneasy. I know we are mostly preaching to the choir here.


Gravatardifferent and equal, God, I hate that phrase. Phila

That's because you are equal but diffident.


GravatarLike dandelions! And thistles!

I'm seriously going to plant thistles in my new herb bed. One person's weed, and all. . . .
Hecate,


glad to hear the stinging thing is working for you, hec. and thers, dandelions make a nice addition to salads, so there's that. heh, i was at the nursery the other day and they were selling both. i thought, fuck, i should try that. i guess there really is one born every minute...


GravatarHas he shown you his nuthatch?

He's waiting to see her tufted tits


GravatarI was about to say mimi, but it's two, two, two trolls in one!

The "little pecker" comment sure sounded like mimi to me....


GravatarSounds like Elias has a new name.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 5:41 pm

I was about to say mimi, but it's two, two, two trolls in one!
ronjazz


Has Zod's shitty attitude.


Gravatardifferent and equal,

God, I hate that phrase.


I know, it's jumped the shark, and we should throw it under the bus.


Gravatarthe scoring is teh best part of this kitsch fest

shows why Europe has a hard time unifying


Gravatarglad to hear the stinging thing is working for you, hec. and thers, dandelions make a nice addition to salads, so there's that.

I ate them in salads the first time this spring. They are pretty nice as long as you mix them with something less hot.


GravatarRussia is in the lead, followed by Greece and Armenia


GravatarBy "aspects of the society" I presume you mean boobs.
Thers


Either way, let's pretend she is.


Gravatardandelions make a nice addition to salads, so there's that.

Right now I could go out to the lawn and make a 500-lb salad. Gonna need a lot of Italian dressing...


GravatarGetting back to the subject--Damn Hillary to hell

On a side note, so far the top winners of the Eurovion thing are all Eastern Orthodox. I wonder what the hell that portends. interesting!


GravatarSounds like Elias has a new name.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 5:41 pm

I was about to say mimi, but it's two, two, two trolls in one!
ronjazz


mimi==Elias.


GravatarHungary

Greece - 8
Russia - 10
Azerbaijan - 12


GravatarWomen are too emotional to have any kind of rational discussion with.



You ARE joking, right?
Terry C ,


and humorless. don't forget that.


GravatarOkay, after a day's research I now know that there are no decent new 2008 hybrid vehicles in inventory anywhere (and I'm not spending $60,000 on a Lexus hybrid).

Therefore, unless you talk me out of it, I'm buying a 2008 Honda CRV-EXL on Monday and enduring another four or five years of 20 MPG.


GravatarIf we regroup and strategize, we can shift the paradigm, while at the same time go after the low hanging fruit, and surface an array of market leveraging techniques moving forward.


GravatarBy "aspects of the society" I presume you mean boobs.



"Moobs", on the other hand...


GravatarAndorra

Greece - 8
Portugal - 10
Spain - 12

what a surprise!


GravatarI ate them in salads the first time this spring. They are pretty nice as long as you mix them with something less hot.
Echidne | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 5:47 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


I mix 'em into pilafs. Works nicely.

When I was a kid, we ate a lot of dandelion greens and miners' lettuce, 'cause they were free...


GravatarPolish speaker has learned Americanese.


GravatarPoland

Norway - 8
Ukraine - 10
Armenia - 12


Gravatar
"Moobs", on the other hand...


Do you mean the literary classic, Mooby Dick?


GravatarSome people can only spell one word to get attention. Thymes with mole and asshole.


GravatarIt pisses me off to no end that there still aren't any leaves on the trees, but the dandelions are invading my lawn and gardens.


GravatarIf we regroup and strategize, we can shift the paradigm, while at the same time go after the low hanging fruit, and surface an array of market leveraging techniques moving forward.
MP


I think we will need a few more buzzwords before we can get synergy.


GravatarI missed the Russian song, but Turkey was ok. But, really, the Greek song was really, really cheesy.


Gravatarmimi==Elias.
jac


It flirts with itself.

Why am I not surprised?


GravatarfearInc'


GravatarWhen I was a kid, we ate a lot of dandelion greens and miners' lettuce, 'cause they were free...

What is miners' lettuce? Lamb-something?


Gravatardandelions make a nice addition to salads, so there's that.

Right now I could go out to the lawn and make a 500-lb salad. Gonna need a lot of Italian dressing...
Thers


Dandelion wine!


Gravatarharry, why that honda? isn't there any other car you like? 20mpg sux ass, i'd expect a honda to do better. mine did, i avg around 50mpg, back in the day, with my civic hatchback.


GravatarThymes=Rhymes

Shit happens ya know.


GravatarSlovenia

Croatia - 8
Bosnia and Herzegovina - 10
Serbia - 12

Balkan neighbors


GravatarWhen I was a kid, we ate a lot of dandelion greens and miners' lettuce, 'cause they were free...
Phila


One of the Foxfire books has a 40+ page section on edible wild plants, with some interesting recipes for "weeds" like dandelion, wild onion, etc.


GravatarSlovenia votes the Balkan ticket.

They were killing each other 15 yrs ago.


GravatarHe's waiting to see her tufted tits

And thinking about the hummer.


GravatarIt flirts with itself.

Why am I not surprised?
Terry C


It's a curious mixture of self-infatuation and desperation.


GravatarArmenia

UK still sucking score wise

Greece - 8
Georgia - 10
Russia - 12


GravatarSome people can only spell one word to get attention. Thymes with mole and asshole.


Nope - trool rhymes with drool.

Trool is what you are.

Drool is what you're soaked in, you jibbering idiot.


GravatarSlovenia votes the Balkan ticket.

They were killing each other 15 yrs ago.


Replace the UN with Eurovision!


GravatarGore Vidal says "This country is finished."


GravatarThymes with mole and asshole.
Scale1


See what's become of me?

I was so hard to please....


GravatarThis reminds me, I have an invite for the last Preznitial Dinner, well an invite to pay. Gonna send it back to them with suggestions for the menu.


GravatarIt's a curious mixture of self-infatuation and desperation.

Hey, I'm still here!


Gravatarharry, why that honda? isn't there any other car you like? 20mpg sux ass, i'd expect a honda to do better. mine did, i avg around 50mpg, back in the day, with my civic hatchback.
chicago dyke, tired


Cuz I lervs my 2004 CRV. Lady D gets 30/40 in her Toyota Scion, so our average family MPG will be 25/35. How's that for rationalization?


GravatarOK, must cut grass. Will try the reel mower, tho. Laters.


GravatarCzech Republic

Ukraine - 8
Azerbaijan - 10
Armenia - 12


GravatarAnyone who buys a dandelion deserves to be pointed at and laughed at.

Though I did once actually try to plant dandelions & failed.


GravatarProud, avaricious, angry, slothful, envious, gluttonous,deeply damaged at some point in their lives, vagina fearing closet case homosexual bigots.

Abused as children, mistreated at school, victims of accident, crime or other terrifying experience, overusers of alcohol....seems like the ones I am acquainted with have a dreadful trauma in their past which has made them resort to Daddy Jeebus is a safety shield from further such incidents.

And if they aren't vigorous enough in pushing others to acknowledge their extreme closeness to the Almighty then He might just yank the shield away.


GravatarMP, george: you've got to work in "monetize" and "grow" (improperly) somewhere there.


GravatarI know, it's jumped the shark, and we should throw it under the bus.
Thers

Need to look the other way and take a chill pill.


Gravatar
What is miners' lettuce? Lamb-something?
Echidne | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 5:51 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


I don't know any other name for it. Here's a picture, though.


GravatarGore Vidal says "This country is finished."
David Ehrenstein | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 5:53 pm | #


I'll look at this.
Gore Vidal is quite the thinker.


Gravatarglad to hear the stinging thing is working for you, hec. and thers, dandelions make a nice addition to salads, so there's that.

I ate them in salads the first time this spring. They are pretty nice as long as you mix them with something less hot.


If you saute them in olive oil w a little onion and garlic they are v good. And they are v good for you.


GravatarThose voters weren't alive 15 years ago.


Gravataryou guys cut the grass
we mow the lawn


GravatarAnyone who buys a dandelion deserves to be pointed at and laughed at.


I once bought English ivy....


Gravatargore vidal is an *intuitive* homosexual


GravatarSpain

damn no 1 likes UK


GravatarI've got a bunch of wildflowers in the snake run that I can't identify. I've been though two books & three botanical web sites and can't find it. What ever it is, it is the favorite of bumblebees, I've never seen that many b.bees that are this large in one area.


GravatarThe Netherlands

Serbia - 8
Turkey - 10
Armenia - 12


GravatarTherefore, unless you talk me out of it, I'm buying a 2008 Honda CRV-EXL on Monday and enduring another four or five years of 20 MPG.
Harry Doghiney (D-TX)


Dude. If you need something SUV-like, the PT Cruiser gets about 28mpg, and a really nicely tricked out one is about $22K.

* commence PT Cruiser bashing *


GravatarIf you saute them in olive oil w a little onion and garlic they are v good.

I'll eat pretty much anything that's sauteed in olive oil with a little onion and garlic.


GravatarFor 60 years, through novels, plays and miscellaneous non-fiction, Vidal has preached the message that government is not only pervasive but corrupt; that while there are may be two political brands, Democrat and Republican, there is only one party: business.


GravatarUnfortunately Gore Vidal is richtig. This is of course reinforced by a population composed of billy b clones.


GravatarI've got a bunch of wildflowers in the snake run that I can't identify. I've been though two books & three botanical web sites and can't find it.

Have you seen Invasion of the Body Snatchers?


GravatarWomen are too emotional to have any kind of rational discussion with

That's why women commit the overwhelming number of murders.


Gravatar"Therefore, unless you talk me out of it, I'm buying a 2008 Honda CRV-EXL on Monday and enduring another four or five years of 20 MPG.
Harry Doghiney (D-TX) | 05.24.08 - 5:49 pm | # "

I have a 2001 CRV and it gets 24-26 mpg in its most McCain moments, like when it's got the rocket box on top or is carrying five people and gear. 28-30 when I am squared behind at about 10 feet some big truckload of hogs or cattle going 75 down I-90. Realy bad idea, incidentally, but fun to try once or twice. The four cylinder CRV is something gutless wonder: dies to a crawl on the passes when pulling the driftboat on a trailer and sometimes has a hard time pulling the drift boat and trailer out of snotty take-outs on the Missouri.

Word is that Honda is going to release "a real hybrid" in the U.S. in 2009. I'm waiting for the plugin car or mass transit.


GravatarTurkey

Ukraine - 8
Armenia - 10
Azerbaijan - 12


GravatarXan! /waves/

willendorf, you stay the fuck away from my beds, m'kay? that's a Black Thumb if i've ever heard of one...

Gore Vidal says "This country is finished."

if i agree, will he take me to italy with him? i'm ready to adopt a New Land.


GravatarTurkey gives Armenia 10 pts and Azerbaijan 12 pts.


GravatarOne of the Foxfire books has a 40+ page section on edible wild plants, with some interesting recipes for "weeds" like dandelion, wild onion, etc.

Not to mention the one that NTodd's godfather wrote that had me eating poke all during my formative years. Stuff is v nasty.


Gravataryou guys cut the grass
we mow the lawn


And the battle of the sexes rages on.


GravatarfearInc'I;OVE


GravatarI want a Eurovision casket when I die


GravatarErin, have you had New Seasons' fresh pizza dough? I'm pretty impressed with it.


GravatarAt the start of the Democratic presidential nomination, Vidal had favoured Hillary Clinton (a photo in his 1995 memoir, Palimpsest, shows Mrs Clinton visiting him at home in Italy), but recently he switched to "the other side". Not John McCain, of course. "McCain is the village idiot. He is very, very stupid, even by American standards." Barack Obama has begun to impress him - "but only to a point. He doesn't have much to say. I'd rather see a woman as president, if we're going to go in for minorities, but Hillary lost her nerve."


GravatarMalta

Russia - 8
Ukraine - 10
Sweden - 12


GravatarSlovenia votes the Balkan ticket.

They were killing each other 15 yrs ago.



See what happens when the US butts out?


GravatarSometimes I mow the lawn, sometimes I cut the grass. But I never drink a soda. That's gaii.


GravatarDude. If you need something SUV-like, the PT Cruiser gets about 28mpg, and a really nicely tricked out one is about $22K.

* commence PT Cruiser bashing *
jac


I won't bash the PT Cruiser. I've rented several and it's a fun car. Maybe I'll give it a think or two.


GravatarIt's a curious mixture of self-infatuation and desperation.

Hey, I'm still here!
NTodd




GravatarTherefore, unless you talk me out of it, I'm buying a 2008 Honda CRV-EXL on Monday and enduring another four or five years of 20 MPG.

Make your family a two-Scion family.


GravatarThe PT Cruiser gets 28 mpg? That's not bad, and it's a whole lot better than when they first came out. I loved the way they looked but they got less than 20 mpg, IIRC.


Gravatarthis sucks, the UK is just above Poland


GravatarI know, it's jumped the shark, and we should throw it under the bus.

Just yesterday I was saying we should amortize the snerd.


GravatarWomen are too emotional to have any kind of rational discussion with

That's why women commit the overwhelming number of murders.
leibniz leibkins


And start all those wars.


Gravatardavid

this is fascinating

i wont reprint the part where he prophesizes president obamas fate


GravatarIreland

UK - 8 (YAY, thanks heaven)
Poland - 10
Latvia - 12


GravatarI once bought English ivy....
Echidne

we have work parties to try and get that stuff out of our woods/urban forest. a nightmare.


GravatarI liked the UK performance.


GravatarThe PT Cruiser gets 28 mpg? That's not bad, and it's a whole lot better than when they first came out. I loved the way they looked but they got less than 20 mpg, IIRC.
TheOtherWA | 05.24.08 - 5:58 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


I rented one a few years back...got about 14 mpg, it seemed to me.


Gravatarpt cruiser owners have 'clubs' dont they?


Gravatar
mimi==Elias.


==annieangel=shoelimpy==General Zod==Econ102==Livefreeordie==...

A psychopath.


GravatarSwitzerland

Albania - 8
Portugal - 10
Serbia - 12

UK is bottom!


Gravatar* commence PT Cruiser bashing * - jac

Very well, transmission, but you can say that about any Chrysler product.


GravatarNot to mention the one that NTodd's godfather wrote that had me eating poke all during my formative years. Stuff is v nasty.
Hecate


My mother talks about picking poke sallet as a child.

You've got to pick it while it's less than a foot high. Like a lot of "weeds," the older foliage gets bitter.


Gravatarthis sucks, the UK is just above Poland
Moonbootica


Continental drift?


Gravatarwe have work parties to try and get that stuff out of our woods/urban forest. a nightmare.

It is. That one purchase of one flat has given me enough exercise for years, pulling it out, over and over again.


GravatarThe Swiss vote coming up.

This must violate neutrality.


GravatarAzerbaijan

Russia - 8
Ukraine - 10
Turkey - 12


GravatarI once bought English ivy....

Oh, goddess!

~Looks at hands roughened from pulling English ivy out of woodland garden.

One of the women in my circle considers it her totem plant. I'm always trying to explain to her: it's invasive! It kills oak trees! Once it's started, you can never really get rid of it. Today, when I was pulling it off the maple tree, I swear that I could hear the tree going, "Oh, oh, oh, ahhhhhhh, thank you, ahhhhhh, oh, yes oh yes."


GravatarAzerbaijan gives love back to Turkey.


Gravatar. Like a lot of "weeds," the older foliage gets bitter.

And clingy.


GravatarSee what happens when the US butts out?

The US has a growing problem with butts being out.


GravatarWomen are too emotional to have any kind of rational discussion with

My experience is that they're too goddamned calm in an argument. Especially when I'm wrong, and they're supposed to give me an out. It's the gentlemanly thing to do.


GravatarGreece

Spain - 8
Albania - 10
Armenia - 12

didn't vote for Cyprus, me shocked


Gravatarhave you had New Seasons' fresh pizza dough? I'm pretty impressed with it.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint

No, will try it.
Always looking for stuff the kids can make.


GravatarThe PT Cruiser gets 28 mpg?
TheOtherWA


Ours got about 25mpg when we bought it (2006), and gets about 28mpg now.

We like it so much we're buying another one this summer.


Gravatarwill someone please tell me why my oxalis "iron cross" has yet to come up in the perfected, full sun bed, but is fucking flowering already in the shady ones? the package said it would perform just the opposite.


Gravatarpt cruiser owners have 'clubs' dont they?
juan ono


Not all. Some have vajayjays.


GravatarFinland

Israel - 8
Russia - 10
Norway - 12 (not a surprise)


Gravatar2008 Chrysler PT Cruiser
EPA Fuel Economy:
City: 18 – 21 Highway: 24 – 26

via cars.com


GravatarCroatia

Albania - 8
Serbia - 10
Bosnia and Herzegovina

Balkan block strike again


GravatarNo comment on Croatia.


GravatarNot all. Some have vajayjays.
jac | 05.24.08 - 6:03 pm | #






okay, that's 'bent!!!'


Gravatarmimi==Elias.


==annieangel=shoelimpy==General Zod==Econ102==Livefreeordie==...

A psychopath.
Richard


Econ/LFOD is a different whacko.

Not sure about Zod.


GravatarSlovenia votes the Balkan ticket.

They were killing each other 15 yrs ago.
Marcellina | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 5:52 pm | #


Well, technically Slovenia was only fighting the Serbs, not the Croats or the Bosniaks.

They actually started doing this a couple of Eurovisions ago.


Gravatari cant wait for atrios to have a kid and move to teh suburbs. then we will all laugh.


Gravatar2008 Chrysler PT Cruiser
EPA Fuel Economy:
City: 18 – 21 Highway: 24 – 26

via cars.com
The Kenosha Kid


jac drives his PT Cruiser in Atlanta, where he spends most of his time at a full stop on the freeway.


GravatarIron Crosses only thrive in Fascist countries--ought to be thriving beautifully.


GravatarSweden

Iceland - 8
Bosnia and Herzegovina - 10
Norway - 12 (another not a surprise)


Gravataryou guys cut the grass
we mow the lawn
ErinPDX


heh. I grew up mowing the lawn.

I moved to the NE and several of the locals didn't know what I was talking about.

"Oh, you mean 'cut the grass'?"

"No, goddammit, I mean 'mow the lawn'."



GravatarDid they pull this swedish spokesperson off the street?


Gravatarmimi==Elias.

Still not entirely sure that mimi/elias are the same, or some sort of sick dysfunctional duo.


Gravatarthese scores are going right over my head.

literally.

which means I guess that my computer is possessed.


GravatarBelarus

Azerbaijan - 8
Ukraine - 10
Russia - 12 (I knew it!!!!!!)


GravatarHave you seen Invasion of the Body Snatchers?
Harry Doghiney (D-TX)

They're too small. It has 2 droupes of about a dozen white flowers that are 1/2 inch long & bell shaped. The stama's stick out past the pedal about 3/8 on an inch. The leaves are 3-lobed with toothed edges. Pretty little things.


Gravatarmimi==butler==elias.

there is no dubt.


GravatarSlovenia votes the Balkan ticket.

They were killing each other 15 yrs ago.
Marcellina

Well, technically Slovenia was only fighting the Serbs, not the Croats or the Bosniaks.
Buckeye


If I recall correctly, Slovenia managed to break away without any bloodshed.


Gravatarjac drives his PT Cruiser in Atlanta, where he spends most of his time at a full stop on the freeway.



He must, because my pony gets better mileage than that - 21/25


Gravatarthe iron cross was a germanic decoration before the fascists.


GravatarLithuania

France - 8 (WHAT!)
Latvia - 10
Russia - 12 (no surprise again)


GravatarStill not entirely sure that mimi/elias are the same, or some sort of sick dysfunctional duo.

The voices sound different to me. I don't hold with the unitard troll theory, though there are probably fewer than the list of names would indicate.


GravatarStill not entirely sure that mimi/elias are the same, or some sort of sick dysfunctional duo.
Buckeye


It got confused a few weeks ago when it was talking to itself. Posts to mimi were signed mimi, and posts to elias were signed elias.


Gravatarso, the 'butler' did it?


GravatarRussia

Ukraine - 8
Azerbaijan - 10
Armenia - 12


Gravatarthere is no dubt.
euphronius


Why is one of them weirdly obsessed with me?


Gravatarheh. I grew up mowing the lawn.

I moved to the NE and several of the locals didn't know what I was talking about.

"Oh, you mean 'cut the grass'?"

"No, goddammit, I mean 'mow the lawn'."


billy b


Don't ask for a coke, either. They'll bring you one, without asking which kind you want.


GravatarA nice lawn, a really plush one, requires too much water. Thousands of gallons of it. I'm lucky living on a big lake. I water the lawn with the lake water, but we have to get better at figuring out how to utilize gray water for lawns. It's a terrible waste of potable water.


GravatarOur Accord LX, which we love, gets 25/30 btw.


GravatarI once bought English ivy....
Echidne

we have work parties to try and get that stuff out of our woods/urban forest. a nightmare.
ErinPDX |


i gotta say, i don't hate on that one like others do. i had a bed on the side of the house covered in it, and i didn't have to pull it up or anything. i just rototilled the shit out of it at the end of the season, and then had 750cu yards of topsoil put on it. it's shown no sign of coming back. i also like the fact that it's evergreen. i'm growing around the compost pile, i intend to make a nice, permagreen 'fence' with it (training it up the metal fence that holds in the compost). i also use it in very hard to grow, acid areas, like the densely shaded parts underneath the pine trees.

every plant has its place.


GravatarThe voices sound different to me. I don't hold with the unitard troll theory, though there are probably fewer than the list of names would indicate.
Echidne | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 6:07 pm | #


I would be quite fascinated to discover that each and every poster (including myself) is actually Atrios.


Gravatarjac drives his PT Cruiser in Atlanta, where he spends most of his time at a full stop on the freeway.
Harry Doghiney (D-TX)


Actually, the Cruiser is currently stabled in Arlington, VA, and drives about 15 minutes on Glebe Road in the morning and evening.


GravatarMontenegro

Russia - 8
Bosnia and Herzegovina - 10
Serbia - 12

more Balkan bloc

Russia haz this sewn up


Gravatar
And start all those wars.


If only weapons were more vagina-shaped.


GravatarDat's perty inneresting, Euphonius. Are you an artiste?


GravatarIs it only me or are other Democrats equally concerned that Obama just cannot seem to be convincing the Jewish voters in Florida that he will need to win in the Fall. He doesn't seem to be closing the sale with them. Perhaps progressive Jewish people are just not ready to vote for a negro for President, which would be a shame. I've always voted the straight D ticket but I'm afraid many wont next November


GravatarHello Harry!



GravatarDear Jesus,

Please damn all the Fetus Holocaust enabler Abortionists to Hell.


GravatarWhy is one of them weirdly obsessed with me?
Marcellina


Because you're a Eurostalker.


Gravataractually Atrios.

That's crossed my mind! Makes the blog more popular!


GravatarWhy is one of them weirdly obsessed with me?
Marcellina


"Competition."

How hilarious is that?


GravatarGeorgia

Russia - 8
Ukraine - 10
Armenia - 12


GravatarQuit spreading propaganda, Davide.


Gravatardavid, it's only you.


GravatarWell, technically Slovenia was only fighting the Serbs, not the Croats or the Bosniaks.
Buckeye

If I recall correctly, Slovenia managed to break away without any bloodshed.
jac | 05.24.08 - 6:06 pm | #


Nope. A ten day war with minimal bloodshed, especially compared with what Serbia did next. But still bloodshed.


GravatarIs it only me or are other Republicans equally concerned that McCain just cannot seem to be convincing the independent voters in America that he will need to win in the Fall. He doesn't seem to be closing the sale with them. Perhaps progressive independent people are just not ready to vote for a Republican for President, which would be a shame. I've always voted the straight R ticket but I'm afraid many wont next November


GravatarBecause you're a Eurostalker.

Sheesh! I forgotz!


Gravataractually Atrios.

That's crossed my mind! Makes the blog more popular!
Marcellina


We are one with everything.

No, wait; that's my hotdog.


GravatarDenmark

Sweden - 8
Norway - 10
Iceland - 12

Scandinavian bloc


GravatarIf only weapons were more vagina-shaped. watertiger

I once nearly lost an eye in a unfortunate incident with a ping pong ball.


GravatarJohn Q. Public | 05.24.08 - 6:11 pm | #



you forgot to add 'Caucasian'


Gravatarits over

Russia has won Eurovision 2008

and UK is at the bottom, no allies or blocs


Gravatarchidyke,

I'm about to dump five years worth of compost (two bins) into the herb bed. My compost bins are my friends.

On top will go sandy soil that lavender and rosemary will love, but, underneath will be compost made of oak leaves and English ivy and eggshells and coffee grounds and carrot peelings and . . . .

And a small blood offering from me, because, of course, it's my herb bed


Gravatar
Still not entirely sure that mimi/elias are the same, or some sort of sick dysfunctional duo.


The flirting tag-team is an Allen Butler specialty.


Gravatar
mimi==Elias.


==annieangel=shoelimpy==General Zod==Econ102==Livefreeordie==...

A psychopath.
Richard | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 6:00 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


I'd go with mimi = Zod, at any rate. Same voice, same MO, same obsession with NTodd.


GravatarIs it only me oZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzz
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david jackson


"negro"?

Fuck off!


GravatarI once nearly lost an eye in a unfortunate incident with a ping pong ball.
JeffCO | 05.24.08 - 6:12 pm | #




her ping-pong waited for me...breathlessly...


Gravatarno one likes the UK

we don't have any friends

see i told you, it lays bare Europe



GravatarI'd go with mimi = Zod, at any rate. Same voice, same MO, same obsession with NTodd.
Phila


I thought Zod was bdg?

Or is bdg mimi?


GravatarRUSSIA WINS! WE LOST THE COLD WAR!!!111


GravatarSo Russia won. Moon, who were the top 10? I missed the last line-up.


GravatarSteveLG,

Whooo, I bet today was busy for you guys!


GravatarI ask you: who among us is not obsessed with NTodd?

BTW, DC blogging...


GravatarTerry Wogan thinks we should not do Eurovision next year

which i think makes sense


GravatarNo, wait; that's my hotdog.

which you should never eat. seriously, esp in men, they fuck with your genes. that was a lesson from one of my genetic profs, as he taught us some basics. i can't work it out anymore, but he did that day and i was convinced. go with bratwurst or something like that.


GravatarRussia has won Eurovision 2008


Fred Thompson will be so pissed.


GravatarI thought Zod was bdg?

Or is bdg mimi?


No, BDG is a twisted personality all his own.


Gravatar
I once nearly lost an eye in a unfortunate incident with a ping pong ball.


Hey, it could've been a dart!


Gravatarcertainly these days its way more about politics

the songs are secondary


GravatarMaybe the Continent is still pissed off about Tony Blaire.


Gravatarnext it'll be Eastern Eurovision

honest to dog


GravatarWow, reading up-thread, someone actually watched Eurovision besides me. Incredible.


Gravatar
The flirting tag-team is an Allen Butler specialty.
Richard


I applaud your trooly detective work.

Butler trolled here for years with shoelimpy and annie.

mimi and Elias fit the bill.

mimi posts incessantly whilst Elias is a dumb ass loose cannon


GravatarHey, it could've been a dart! watertiger

Ironically, it was in the back of a Dart.


GravatarMaybe the Continent is still pissed off about Tony Blaire.
Marcellina | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 6:16 pm | #


nah it goes way deeper


GravatarKrushchev was right all the time.


GravatarUkraine 2nd, Greece 3rd


GravatarPlease damn all the Fetus Holocaust enabler Abortionists to Hell.
Killing children isn't cool | 05.24.08 - 6:10 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


You're doing it wrong.


Gravatarburn in hell, libbos. BURN.IN.HELL.


GravatarLater moonbeams. Gonna play Okami with my daughter.


Gravatargo with bratwurst or something like that.
chicago dyke, tired


We're doing brats and kosher hurtdogs at Chez Doghiney tomorrow.

It's a warm-up for EschaTex Jr. 2008. We're also testing the margarita-bellini machine.


GravatarNo, BDG is a twisted personality all his own.
NTodd


Which leaves open the question of whether mimi==Zod.

Que?


Gravatarcan you imagine if the main Bankrollers pulled out?


GravatarI applaud your trooly detective work.

Hear hear!!


GravatarComment by Killing children isn't cool blocked.


Shame your parents didn't decide on abortion, dumbass.


GravatarLast night was really busy, Hecate. Today wasn't too bad.

I'm probably going to pick up a couple of cases of magnums of 2004 Bourgogne Blanc (by Sylvain Bzikot). Magnums are such fun for entertaining and this one (which I tried at the luncheon at Belga) tastes like Puligny-Montrachet (it should... the vineyards are adjacent)... it'll probably be about $44.99 for the double-size bottle.

I'll let you know when it comes in, if you're interested.


Gravatari mean its not worth watching anymore

no variety


GravatarHey, it could've been a dart!

watertiger


Remember Jarts (Lawn Darts)? OK, which company general counsel was asleep at the switch there?

No, selling a giant spear game, where you throw the lethal game piece toward a group of players won't result in a lawsuit or two.


Gravatarhec: that's so creative and interesting looking! nice design. sand for rosemary, huh? didn't know that, i'll try it. i'm so lucky to have all this space. i thought of you a lot today. otoh, i'm so sorry we can't garden together in DC like i'd planned. otoh, fuck me do i have a lot of space to work with! i don't miss apartment living at all. my blood offerings happen on their own; i don't even have to ritualize them anymore. heh, i'm a bleeder, if not a breeder.


GravatarWhich leaves open the question of whether mimi==Zod.

killfile is the great equalizer.


GravatarOh, NTodd, fuck. "Same with touching the names" has me reduced to great sobbing tears. Fuck. Back later


GravatarThe crying over Hillary's "assassination" comments is too much.

You didn't see Hillary crying when Bill sent her to be shot at by snipers in Bosnia, did you?

She just ducked & covered and ran like hell to the limo!

She's a good little lady!


Gravatarjeez i mean we don't even get a break


GravatarDo people go somewhere on the internet to learn to be trolls?

Troll school?


GravatarDid anyone else notice that every country gave Israel between 3 & 7 points? Seems like those Euros have learned their lesson not to hate on the Jews.


GravatarI once nearly lost an eye in a unfortunate incident with a ping pong ball.

Hey, it could've been a dart!

watertiger


Or a Daisy air rifle. Right, Ralphie?


GravatarRemember Jarts (Lawn Darts)? OK, which company general counsel was asleep at the switch there?
MP


Jeff Foxworthy does a hilarious bit on lawn darts and other kids' toys.


GravatarI'd go with mimi = Zod, at any rate. Same voice, same MO, same obsession with NTodd.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 6:12 pm | #


'she's' also obsessed with marcellina.


GravatarRemember Jarts (Lawn Darts)? OK, which company general counsel was asleep at the switch there?

No, selling a giant spear game, where you throw the lethal game piece toward a group of players won't result in a lawsuit or two.
MP


Actually, that was about the time "strict liability" entered the legal lexicon. Before that, any thought of suing a company for such a product would have lacked a legal theory for doing so.


Gravatar
Ironically, it was in the back of a Dart.


Were you wearing a Duster?


GravatarDo people go somewhere on the internet to learn to be trolls?

Troll school?
Marcellina


Texas A&M University.


Gravatarthe UK might have to reevaluate this contest

Sir Terry Wogan does not sound happy


GravatarButler trolled here for years with shoelimpy and annie.


And steerpiketree - who is a mega-psycho.


GravatarNo, selling a giant spear game, where you throw the lethal game piece toward a group of players won't result in a lawsuit or two.
MP

Throwing your body down to slide into your best friends skull ain't too hip either on a Slip n' Slide.


GravatarOne thing we do know for certain is that we chased almost all the sincere trolls away a long time ago, and are left with retarded performance artists.

Petzold is the only one who actually believes the shit he posts, as far as I can tell. And even he doesn't have Butler's appetite for attention.


GravatarI'm about to dump five years worth of compost (two bins) into the herb bed.
Hecate


That stone-work is very creative.


GravatarOh, Hecate, don't cry!

No, wait...do. I find that fucking memorial so goddamned powerful, I'm always choked up--never while I'm actually there, but when I'm walking away from it, as though I had something torn out and left there. Weird.


GravatarPetzold is the only one who actually believes the shit he posts, as far as I can tell. And even he doesn't have Butler's appetite for attention.

Yes, ever since the aliens abducted him, he's been...changed.


GravatarI have sage, thyme and green onions in the garden. All have come back on their own or survived the winters at least. Then I have enormous amounts of purple fennel which I bought for its color many years ago. I don't like the taste, though.


Gravatar'she's' also obsessed with marcellina.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins


And Molly........and "she" talks shit about Vicki, too.


GravatarWere you wearing a Duster? watertiger

Heh - had one of those too. But it was my fault - forgot to Pacer myself.


GravatarI can safely speak for Vince and myself, assassination is no joke to the Clintons!


Gravatargoodnight moonbats

hope you enjoyed Eurovision


GravatarI'm not completely convinced of the one-troll theory. Certain ones have unusual interests and MOs that set them apart.
But it seems a handful of individuals is responsible for a few dozen characters.


GravatarWere you wearing a Duster? watertiger

Heh - had one of those too. But it was my fault - forgot to Pacer myself.
JeffCO


That's what you get for Falcon around.


Gravatar
I'd go with mimi = Zod, at any rate. Same voice, same MO, same obsession with NTodd.


Marcellus recently pointed out that "mimi" had been trolling another site, eurotrib.com, under the name mishimishi.

Out of curiosity, I took a look over there and through the magic of google a saw a very familiar pattern. Multiple identities (mishimishi=zoe=mmmm=....), flirting sockpuppets, attempts to divide the community with a mixture of "good citizen" and psycho behavior, and, perhaps most interestingly, a hostile obsession with some of the more prominent posters.

Over there, "she" would regularly attack Jerome de Paris, who is the moderator of the place.


GravatarI find that fucking memorial so goddamned powerful, I'm always choked up
NTodd


Gets me too.

The Hall of Remembrance at the Holocaust musuem fucked my shit up but good, too. Blubbering like a goy idiot.


Gravatarwe chased almost all the sincere trolls away a long time ago, and are left with retarded performance artists.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint


The current crop IS rather pitiful.


GravatarThis poor little thrush keeps attacking its reflection in my window....


GravatarOh fuck, we had a Slip 'n Slide as a kid. How I came away from that without a closed head wound, or my hip somewhere near my neck, I'll never know.


GravatarI'm not completely convinced of the one-troll theory.

Nor am I, though I'm sure there are plenty of Sybils running around.


GravatarIronically, it was in the back of a Dart.

Were you wearing a Duster?


[rimshot]

.


GravatarMoonbootica, Latitude 2008

night Moon!


GravatarThe Hall of Remembrance at the Holocaust musuem fucked my shit up but good, too.

Holy mother of fuck, it was the damned shoes that did it to me.


GravatarGood night, moonbootica. We shall take the first guard shift.


GravatarThat's what you get for Falcon around. Rmj

It was a Valiant effort all around.


Gravatarphone call bbl.


GravatarComment by Ron Brown bullet ridden corpse blocked.



Ron Brown died in a plane crash, IIRC.


GravatarOh fuck, we had a Slip 'n Slide as a kid. How I came away from that without a closed head wound, or my hip somewhere near my neck, I'll never know.
MP


Same thing with the swingset in the backyard. Or most of the playground equipment available in most public parks. Usually some heavy metal object (like the "merry go round"), set into packed earth. Might as well have been concrete.


GravatarThis poor little thrush keeps attacking its reflection in my window....
Phila, Pizen Sarpint

We had a little Ruby Kinglet doing that to the point I was worried it would starve...


GravatarIf you're playing Swing the Statue, you don't need darts or slip an slide to break your bone.

Ah, youth.


GravatarPentagon cannot account for almost $15 billion worth of goods and services.

http:// www.informationclearingho...rticle19978.htm

So why the f**k does congress keep shelling out money for this failed and unnecessary war? You think anyone will be held accountable for war profiteering, waste and fraud?


Gravatar
[rimshot]


Gotta be careful if you try that in a Pinto.


GravatarEchidne, Finland performed well tonight, even if they didn't win. They were my #3 pick.


GravatarIt was a Valiant effort all around.
JeffCO


Camaro over here and sit by me.


GravatarYou think anyone will be held accountable for war profiteering, waste and fraud?
Uncle Fester Lurks


No.


GravatarEchidne, Finland performed well tonight, even if they didn't win. They were my #3 pick.

Want my passport?


Gravatartwo words:  click clacks.


Gravatar

Holy mother of fuck, it was the damned shoes that did it to me.
NTodd, Poseur | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 6:25 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


The scene in "Night and Fog" with the shaved hair is pretty staggering...pulling away from a handful of it to a warehouse full of it. You keep thinking there's as much as there could possibly be, and it keeps going....


GravatarGotta be careful if you try that in a Pinto.

watertiger


Especially if you get rear-ended.


GravatarIf you're playing Swing the Statue, you don't need darts or slip an slide to break your bone.


Yeah, and getting hit in the head one time with a tether ball certainly is a life lesson.


GravatarHoly mother of fuck, it was the damned shoes that did it to me.
NTodd


You know, the entire presentation is so analytical that none of the exhibits really made me blubber.

The holocaust exhibit at the Jewish center here in Atlanta affected me more on an emotional level. Very personal, focused on connections to Atlanta (relatives of citizens, survivors who moved here afterwards, etc.).


GravatarEvery member of congress should be FORCED to read "War Is A Racket."

http://www.lexrex.com/ enlightene...arisaracket.htm


GravatarYeah, and getting hit in the head one time with a tether ball certainly is a life lesson.

I was hit by one of those metal chairs which restaurants have in the outside areas, because I got stuck in the middle of a gang war.


GravatarGotta be careful if you try that in a Pinto.

watertiger

Especially if you get rear-ended.
SteveLG

That's illegal in many states...especially if you've purchased an Escort.


GravatarOh fuck, we had a Slip 'n Slide as a kid. How I came away from that without a closed head wound, or my hip somewhere near my neck, I'll never know.
MP


Kid down the street got a concussion on one of those things.


GravatarBy the way...how come you folks don't realize that the VVM is A Memorial to Nothingness?


GravatarEvery member of congress should be FORCED to read "War Is A Racket."

I think they know that already. And they're cool with it.


GravatarCamaro over here and sit by me. racymind

K.


GravatarSo why the f**k does congress keep shelling out money for this failed and unnecessary war?

Beltway dems want to use the war to flog the rethugs and take the white house, and the rethugs can't take backsies after flaying the dems for their lack of 'patriotism'.

Too bad more soldiers and civilians have to die, but can't make an omelette, and all that...



GravatarNo.
Rmj, Syndicate Theologist | 05.24.08 - 6:28 pm | #
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Good, than I guess they won't hold me accountable for the back taxes I owe.


GravatarI remember "Monkey Bars". Basically thick gauge industrial piping set in concrete.

When I was in second grade, a kid at our elementary school lost his grip and slid off onto his noggin. Died.

No more Monkey Bars.


GravatarGotta be careful if you try that in a Pinto.


It works OK if you open up the hatch, as long as you don't get 'rear-ended'.

Things tend to heat up if that happens.


GravatarKid down the street got a concussion on one of those things.
Terry C , Overeducated Liberal


Hell, I got a concussion playing football in my own backyard one Thxgiving. Apparently I tried to uproot a tree with my head.

I don't remember. I'm still missing those 10 minutes or so of my life.


GravatarCamaro over here and sit by me. racymind

K.
JeffCO |


thx bai


Gravatar
I'm not completely convinced of the one-troll theory. Certain ones have unusual interests and MOs that set them apart.


What really got me onto the one-troll theory is when I managed to get Butler to out himself as also being the banality troll, "jack" (I poked fun at his Associated Content crap enough times that he had a tantrum). At that point, it became clear that the one guy was using multiple MOs.


GravatarCamaro over here and sit by me.

Oh, K.


GravatarEvery member of congress should be FORCED to read "War Is A Racket."

http://www.lexrex.com/ enlightene...arisaracket.htm
Uncle Fester Lurks

We owe the man who wrote that our gratitude for saving our Constitution.


GravatarHell, I got a concussion playing football in my own backyard one Thxgiving. Apparently I tried to uproot a tree with my head.

I don't remember. I'm still missing those 10 minutes or so of my life.


My best friend fell off those Monkey Bars (though not sure if it's the same: a metal bar fixed high over some concrete). She still has no memory the previous weeks.


GravatarYou think anyone will be held accountable for war profiteering, waste and fraud?
Uncle Fester Lurks | 05.24.08 - 6:27 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


Yes. Democrats, by Republicans and the media, a month or two after Bush leaves office and everything that's happened during the war officially becomes their responsibility.


GravatarHell, I got a concussion playing football in my own backyard one Thxgiving. Apparently I tried to uproot a tree with my head.

I don't remember. I'm still missing those 10 minutes or so of my life.
Rmj, Syndicate Theologist
-------------------
My sister in law got a concussion a couple of weeks ago falling down the stairs in her house.


GravatarSevere thunderstorm warning and tornado warning a few miles south of me.

Just another day in paradise.


GravatarWhat really got me onto the one-troll theory is when I managed to get Butler to out himself as also being the banality troll, "jack"
Richard


No shit?

That's one I never would have guessed.


GravatarI'll take some dijon ketchup and a green dress with my K.


Gravatargosh darn you, JeffCO.


GravatarIf the storm comes this way, I'm just going to run outside and say, in a firm voice, "Suck. On. This."

That ought to take care of things.


GravatarRichard, what about the fact that there are trolls here around the clock? What does Butler live from if he's here nearly 24 hours a day?


GravatarRichard, what about the fact that there are trolls here around the clock? What does Butler live from if he's here nearly 24 hours a day?
Marcellina


I think the nice orderlies bring his meals.

I just wonder how he gets Internet access in there.


GravatarWhat does Butler live from if he's here nearly 24 hours a day?

Mom.


GravatarWhat does Butler live from if he's here nearly 24 hours a day?
Marcellina


Meth addicts rarely eat, I'm told.


GravatarIf the storm comes this way, I'm just going to run outside and say, in a firm voice, "Suck. On. This."

That ought to take care of things.
Sinfonian, can haz puppy?


The storm might blow off your fake pr0n moustache, and therefore diminish the efficacy of your command.


Gravatargosh darn you, JeffCO. watertiger

But not a real gosh darn, that's cruel.

Also, Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaveeeeeeeeleeeeeeeengthhhh...



GravatarAfternoon, folks.


GravatarMeth addicts rarely eat, I'm told.
Sinfonian


Can't be. Way too fat, and has that potheady Cheech-n-Chong lilt in his voice on those shitty videos.


Gravatar
But not a real gosh darn, that's cruel.


I'm buying you a treehouse for your birthday.


GravatarTomorrow is Towel Day.

Please make a note of it.


GravatarSo McCain and Bush are moving their fundraiser from a convention center to private residences. Just how few people are they expecting???


GravatarCan't be. Way too fat, and has that potheady Cheech-n-Chong lilt in his voice on those shitty videos.
jac


Ah, good point. Hadn't considered his actual portliness.


GravatarSo McCain and Bush are moving their fundraiser from a convention center to private residences. Just how few people are they expecting???
foolme1ns


Their next fundraiser will be in a FotoMat.


GravatarSo McCain and Bush are moving their fundraiser from a convention center to private residences. Just how few people are they expecting???
foolme1ns


Heee!

Oh, but they're BIG residences, veritable McMansions.


GravatarIf the storm comes this way, I'm just going to run outside and say, in a firm voice, "Suck. On. This." That ought to take care of things. Sinfonian

How'd the whole commanding the tide not to come in work out for you?


GravatarSo McCain and Bush are moving their fundraiser from a convention center to private residences. Just how few people are they expecting???
foolme1ns


Shit, Barney won't even let Bush pet him any more.


GravatarTheir next fundraiser will be in a FotoMat.
MP
---------------------
seems pretty pathetic


GravatarSo McCain and Bush are moving their fundraiser from a convention center to private residences. Just how few people are they expecting???
foolme1ns


FWIW, Obama and Clinton each held rallies in large arenas down here in America's Glans™ this past week.

Clinton's, in the BankUnited Center in Coral Gables (home of the University of Miami basketball team) drew around 3,000.

Obama chose the BankAtlantic Center (similar name, but in Sunrise; home of the Florida Panthers hockey team) and drew 16,000.

As I say, for what it's worth ...


GravatarHow'd the whole commanding the tide not to come in work out for you?
JeffCO


Wet.


GravatarEchidne, I'm afraid you might not be keeping up on the latest developments in economic theory, so I thought I'd pass this along:

In a free market substitutes for oil will be quickly and easily found because any overpriced good will cause entrepreneurs to find and consumers to use substitutes. This is the law of substitution.


GravatarJust how few people are they expecting???


Just a few close friends with large, economy-sized wallets.


Gravatarfuck! I missed another pun thread?


GravatarI'm hitting the hay. Good night, beautiful people.


GravatarThis is the law of substitution.

That's a new one.


GravatarClinton's, in the BankUnited Center in Coral Gables (home of the University of Miami basketball team) drew around 3,000.

Obama chose the BankAtlantic Center (similar name, but in Sunrise; home of the Florida Panthers hockey team) and drew 16,000.

As I say, for what it's worth ...
Sinfonian, can haz puppy?
----------------------
So you gotta figure Bush and McCain are probably going to pull in a couple of hundred, maybe. I guess a couple of private residences can hadle that. It's going to seem like more of a tupperware party than a fundraiser for a presidential candidate with the POTUS hosting!!!!!

I mean, how embarrassing.


Gravatarfuck! I missed another pun thread?
virgotex


Trust me, it was no pun at all.


GravatarI think Mini-Mc has a problem: after nestling up to Bush for so long, he can't very well tell him to stay home.


Gravatarfuck! I missed another pun thread?
virgotex


You Dodged a bullet, trust me.


GravatarI'm actually drawing inspiration from NTodd, of all people, in considering a name for my new puppy.

Something must be wrong with me.



Gravatar Bill Clinton appointed Ron Brown Commerce Secretary, partly as a reward for Ron Brown's success as a campaign fund raiser. From day one, allegations surrounded the exact means and methods by which this success was attained. Investigations into Ron Brown's activities (his son would later plead guilty to money laundering) were nearing the point of indictments, and Ron Brown had publicly stated that he would not go to jail alone, when the airplane carrying Ron Brown and about 30 other people crashed in Bosnia.

It is worth noting that Ron Brown was just one of four Clinton campaign fund raisers to die under questionable circumstances. The others were C. Victor Raiser II, Hershel Friday, and Ed Willey, a total of three plane crashes and one "Fosterization". Following Brown's demise, his personal attorney as well as a co-worker at the Department of Commerce, Barbara Wise also died under questionable circumstances. As in the case of yet another "suddenly dead" member of the Clinton administration, Vincent Foster , Ron Brown's office was ransacked for files by Commerce staff immediately after his death.



GravatarCan't be. Way too fat, and has that potheady Cheech-n-Chong lilt in his voice on those shitty videos.
jac | 05.24.08 - 6:39 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


Well said. That's the impression I got, too. Dumb and stoned, and watched one Andy Kaufman clip too many.


Gravatargotta go. Be back after eats.


GravatarI call namestealer.

/mr. obvious


Gravatar As in the case of yet another "suddenly dead" member of the Clinton administration, Vincent Foster , Ron Brown's office was ransacked for files by Commerce staff immediately after his death.


atrios | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 6:47 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


I've been nagging Atrios to cover this story for the last four years. I'm glad he finally took my advice.


GravatarI call namestealer.

/mr. obvious
Sinfonian


But it's posted in bold! It MUST be true!


GravatarHey, dumbass name-stealing troll, here's a question for ya: since the MSM hates the Clintons so much, if all that you say were true, don't you think one of those Fox News types would be all the fuck over it?

Now fuck off and die. thxbai.


GravatarYou Dodged a bullet, trust me. racymind

You can't a Ford to duck out.


GravatarHey, dumbass name-stealing troll, here's a question for ya: since the MSM hates the Clintons so much, if all that you say were true, don't you think one of those Fox News types would be all the fuck over it?

Now fuck off and die. thxbai.
Sinfonian, can haz young boy? | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 6:50 pm |


They fly too


GravatarThis isn't a pun, but I did see a vintage Packard on I-95 today. I presume it had a newer engine, because it was keeping up with traffic fairly well ...


GravatarYou Dodged a bullet, trust me. racymind

You can't a Ford to duck out.
JeffCO


Thank goodness no one brought up Monaco Lewinsky.


Gravatarsinfonian,

I told you to name that puppy mimi. Hilarity will ensue. "Don't lick your butt, mimi!"etc.


Gravatarthis thread doesn't look that fresh to me.


GravatarObama chose the BankAtlantic Center (similar name, but in Sunrise; home of the Florida Panthers hockey team) and drew 16,000.

As I say, for what it's worth ...
Sinfonian, can haz puppy?


I'm guessing an insufficient number were identified as Jewish....


GravatarThis isn't a pun, but I did see a vintage Packard on I-95 today. I presume it had a newer engine, because it was keeping up with traffic fairly well ...
Sinfonian, can haz puppy? | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 6:52 pm | #

Packards were very fast and powerful.


Gravatarsinfonian,

I told you to name that puppy mimi. Hilarity will ensue. "Don't lick your butt, mimi!"etc.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮


I saw that ... very funny, and worth considering, except that my kids call my mother "Mimi." Can't name the dog after their grandmother ...


GravatarAs in the case of yet another "suddenly dead" member of the Clinton administration, Vincent Foster , Ron Brown's office was ransacked for files by Commerce staff immediately after his death.

atrios | Homepage |
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And you are say what? "The Clinton's had them killed"? If the Clinton's could have people killed, would Rush, Dick Morris etc., be alive today. Think about it and then go 'F' yourself!


Gravatar
Richard, what about the fact that there are trolls here around the clock? What does Butler live from if he's here nearly 24 hours a day?
Marcellina


I suspect that he probably lives with his parents and what work he manages to get is online. His part-time tutoring gig is (he's written about it).

Getting back to the one troll theory, one of the other things that's convinced me of it are the overnight threads when there are a lot fewer posters around. In those cases, it becomes more obvious that one guy is using multiple identities, in particular, when several characters all arrive "coincidently" within a few minutes of each other and leave just as abruptly.


GravatarFollowing Brown's demise, his personal attorney . . . died under questionable circumstances

I call bullshit from personal experience. I know his lawyer and he's still alive and well.


GravatarPackards were very fast and powerful.
ronjazz


Ah, see, I wondered. But I knew someone here would be old enough to set me straight.



[runs from room]


GravatarIf you were passionate in a Fury, would that make it Plymouth Rock?


GravatarThank goodness no one brought up Monaco Lewinsky. jac

That's just not how I Rolls. I'd rather kick it Olds school.


GravatarThe main problem with the Clinton Body Count is that it hasn't yet been dovetailed with the List of Dead Microbiologists.

By putting the two together, we can see that HRC is planning to unleash some sort of bioweapon right before the election, which'll be engineered to cripple or kill black voters. In this way, she'll be able to seize the White House and shock the world with her centrist economic policies and her staunch support of Israel.


GravatarSin, you could always name the pup after the trolls: Shitforbrains has a certain cache, yes?


GravatarThe sky is this peculiar green color ... almost olive. Maybe trending toward sepia a bit ... how odd.


GravatarPackards were very fast and powerful.
ronjazz | 05.24.08 - 6:53 pm | #


the packard plant in philly is now a huge data center (or maybe several data centers). i was in it a couple years ago. interesting history - during ww2 they used it to build tanks and stuff, it has elevators strong enough to move a tank from floor to floor.


GravatarSin, you could always name the pup after the trolls: Shitforbrains has a certain cache, yes?
Diane C. Barking-Mad


Name it "Dammit."

"Come here, Dammit!"


GravatarYou can't a Ford to duck out.
JeffCO


How fun. We Mustang out more ofter.


GravatarSin, you could always name the pup after the trolls: Shitforbrains has a certain cache, yes?
Diane C. Barking-Mad


Yes. I'll enjoy explaining that one to the 2.8-year-old.


GravatarBe careful, Sinfonian! Isn't the green sky a sign of an approaching tornado?


GravatarThe sky is this peculiar green color ... almost olive. Maybe trending toward sepia a bit ... how odd.
Sinfonian


Draco, is that you?

If not, DUCK.


GravatarThe sky is this peculiar green color ... almost olive. Maybe trending toward sepia a bit ... how odd. Sinfonian

You may be looking at the world from inside a martini glass.


GravatarThe sky is this peculiar green color ... almost olive. Maybe trending toward sepia a bit ... how odd.

Sepia sky at night.
Clinton fundraiser take fright!


GravatarRichard, what about the fact that there are trolls here around the clock? What does Butler live from if he's here nearly 24 hours a day?
Marcellina | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 6:37 pm | #


From what I can piece together, after Butler graduated from college in 2005 or 2006, he moved to Canada to move in with the woman who calls herself annieangel, a nurse or nurse's aide he met when they both trolled the Weekly World News forums. I think they've moved to the states now. At any rate, he calls himself a freelance writer. But, from what I can tell, he basically just sponges off of annieangel.


GravatarDays until teh puppy is sleeping in the Sinfonian bed and ruling teh Sinfonian roost:

Zero.


GravatarBe careful, Sinfonian! Isn't the green sky a sign of an approaching tornado?
Echidne


Oh, I'm watching carefully. It's probably just the severe thunderstorm, which is skirting just to my south.


GravatarHow fun. We Mustang out more ofter.
racymind | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 6:57 pm | #


yugo your way, i'll go mine.


GravatarSin, my only experience with green skies is just before a tornado with accompanying thunder storms hit.

You might want to consider finding a safer place.


GravatarBe careful, Sinfonian! Isn't the green sky a sign of an approaching tornado?
Echidne


It's more of a "oh, shit, there's a fucking tornado RIGHT HERE!" sign.

Green skies and hail scare the living bejesus out of me.


GravatarHow fun. We Mustang out more ofter. racymind

How about an Austin Martini?


Gravatar
atrios


Speaking of multiple MOs, Butler pulls the namestealing stunt more often than not when he's been made upset.


GravatarTAKE THAT PUPPY AND GO DOWNSTAIRS NOW!


GravatarWell, I'm keeping a constant eye on the radar and it shows the storms going just to my south.


Gravataryugo your way, i'll go mine.

Being a Voyager is all about finding new Vistas.


GravatarTAKE THAT PUPPY AND GO DOWNSTAIRS NOW!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


I don't have the puppy yet. Not till July 10.


GravatarSpeaking of multiple MOs, Butler pulls the namestealing stunt more often than not when the THC levels in his bloodstream have dropped, and the reality that he's not fooling anyone seeps into his brain.
Richard


Fixed your typo.


Gravatar[runs from room]
Sinfonian, can haz puppy? | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 6:55 pm | #


Damn, wait until I get my motorized walker.


GravatarHow fun. We Mustang out more ofter.
racymind | Homepage | 05.24.08 - 6:57 pm | # [kill]​[hide comment]


Just don't start falling for him. We went out on a couple of jeep dates that were OK, but believe me, I'm Saturn wiser now.


GravatarHow about an Austin Martini?
JeffCO


On June 6th, why don't you Jetta on down to TX and have one?


GravatarFresh Thread
Posted by Atrios


enjoy


-Atrios 16:36

I think it should be retitled to Tired Old Stale Thread


GravatarDamn, wait until I get my motorized walker.
ronjazz


Hoveround, bitchez!


GravatarJust don't start falling for him.

No chance. Boo. Ick.


GravatarJust don't start falling for him. We went out on a couple of jeep dates that were OK, but believe me, I'm Saturn wiser now. Phila

Don't think I've forgotten that you stiffed me, and not in a good way.


GravatarAs in the case of yet another "suddenly dead" member of the Clinton administration, Vincent Foster , Ron Brown's office was ransacked for files by Commerce staff immediately after his death.

Paging Snopes...


GravatarLooks like Bill C may be key to the end of this:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol...icle3998946.ece

Discreet merger talks between key campaign staff and leading fundraisers in both camps are already under way. But the process of healing is fraught with friction after accusations of sexism, racism and other insults.

Bill Clinton has been stung by accusations that he played the “race card” by referring to Obama’s story as a “fairy-tale” and comparing his early success in South Carolina with that of the Rev Jesse Jackson, the failed black presidential candidate, in the 1980s.

Nevertheless, friends said they expected the former president to campaign hard for Obama once the nomination is settled.


GravatarTAKE THAT PUPPY AND GO DOWNSTAIRS NOW!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


And you should watch that it doesn't drop a house on you.


GravatarBill Clinton thought he was off the hook regarding Danny Williams. Danny is now a teenager and does not know the identify of his father. While growing up, his mother told him his father was Bill Clinton. Arkansas troopers had actually taken Christmas presents to Danny on behalf of Bill.

Danny's mother is Bobbi Ann Williams. She happens to be black, and when Clinton knew her in Little Rock, she was a crack cocaine hooker. When Clinton would go for a jog and take a little break from his duties at the governor's mansion, there was at least one occasion in which Bobbi Ann serviced him in the bushes.

Pictures of Danny bear a striking resemblance to Clinton. As evidence of her story that they had an affair, Bobbi Ann was able to accurately describe the inside of the home of Clinton's mom, Virginia Kelley. The only way she would know that is if she was the housekeeper, she had broken in, or someone took her there. She was not the housekeeper. There is no record of a break in. We are left to the conclusion that her story is true, and it was their love nest.

...

Bill Clinton, who has used the "N" word, who has used black people all his life, needs to be shown for who he really is. How will people feel if they know that he has been a deadbeat dad, particulary of a child who is half black?


GravatarOn June 6th, why don't you Jetta on down to TX and have one? racymind

I believe we are in Accord.



Boo, Ick?


GravatarI put up talk sheets


Gravatar friends said they expected the former president to campaign hard for Obama once the nomination is settled.

NO ONE COULD HAVE ANTICIPATED !!!


GravatarA minor Harry Potter actor has been stabbed to death.


GravatarHey, question for you all: if you were a real Helen Thomas reporter, what kinds of questions (and followups) would you ask Karl Rove in light of Luskin's flipping Conyers the bird (PDF)?


Gravatarowls!!!!!!!!!


GravatarDamn that monster beatch from hell, pillory clinton.


Gravatarif you were a real Helen Thomas reporter, what kinds of questions (and followups) would you ask Karl Rove


"Why did you kill Vince Foster?"


GravatarYou can't a Ford to duck out.

jesus chrysler, people! 


Gravatarfriends said they expected the former president to campaign hard for Obama once the nomination is settled.


Bread. Butter. etc.


Gravatarliar namestealer. republican, is my bet.


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