For a while I thought the anti McCain talk was just a clever plan to somehow innoculate McCain from the rampant "kill all Rightwingers" virus that will be sweeping our nation for the next several years, but now is see that it is genuine, if absolutely inexplicable. Those people on the Ratwing are just plain bonko-bananas.
Bad Art |
02.09.08 - 11:33 pm | #
The payoff from the excellent Rolling Stone article Gillie linked to downstairs:
But on the same trip, it also began to become clear what it might mean if Barack Obama were somehow, despite it all, to become president of the United States -- the resonance it might have not just within the United States but beyond. On a bright morning, the senator's convoy pulled into the Kibera district of Nairobi, which is called, perhaps unscientifically, the largest slum in all of Africa. It is undoubtedly the most compact: There are up to 750,000 people living in less than two square miles of malign-looking shacks, with no electricity and no running water. The whole place stinks of human waste. Kibera has become a common stopping point for American notables touring Africa's stricken zones -- congressmen, Chris Rock, Madeleine Albright -- and the place has assumed a kind of indifference to visiting celebrity. This is not the case with Obama. The senator has no speech planned today -- he is here for a meeting on microfinance -- but thousands of people have choked the dirt paths through the ghettos. Obama biro, yawne yo! they shout -- "Obama's coming, clear the way!" His name, in its local rhythms, sounds almost like a religious chant. Kenyan police on horses, thin and jumpy animals, try to beat back the surging crowd.
When Obama is finished with his meeting, he comes out of a hut: a skinny American dude, looking more like thirty-five than forty-five, his face treadmilled-thin, all teeth and cheekbones, holding a megaphone at his side. The roar is deafening. For a second, Obama looks stunned. He lifts the megaphone to his lips, but he can't make himself heard. When he lowers it, he's grinning. For the first time, it seems as if some resistance has broken in Obama: His reluctance has been replaced by something deeper and more spontaneous. He raises the megaphone again. "Hello!" he calls out in the local dialect. The wave of sound that greets him is awesome. He half-loses it, just starts yelling into the megaphone: "Everyone here is my brother! Everyone here is my sister! I love Kibera!" The crowd is so loud that he can't be heard more than twenty feet from where he is standing, and so he begins to wade into the crowd, shouting into the megaphone again and again: "You are all my brothers and sisters!" The look on his face is one of pure joy. Months later, his eyes still glitter when he recalls the sheer spectacle of it all. "It was a remarkable experience," he says.
The residents in Kibera know little about Obama besides his race, the fact that his father is from this country and what the Kenyan papers have told them: that he represents a younger and more empathetic vision of America. It's enough. Here, at last, is what it would mean to have a black president of the United States, one with a feel for what it means to suffer the rough edge of American power...
Remember: half of the Republican delegates are picked in the election (100% of the dem delegates are in the primary). Anybody who wants can vote in the Republican primary for whoever they want.
MikeJ |
02.09.08 - 11:34 pm | #
From the last thread...your post on The Prisoner...
I dislike when those types analyze to death the "meaning" of the TV show/film. They take away the mystery of it all...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.09.08 - 11:34 pm | #
Adios.
Good riddance.
Terry C, Clintonista | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 11:11 pm | #
See.
This is what happens when you answer my very benign, friendly expression, with a very obnoxious, irritating one.
This requires me to be obnoxious and irritating in return.
Now, there is another way you could proceed, and that would be to be a decent human being.
I'm not asking for a "Nite John Boy" or anything like that. Just anything but a smartass remark. Is that asking too much?
Elias - It's all about meme! |
02.09.08 - 11:34 pm | #
Huckabee is pimping jesus in some wierd way?
focus |
02.09.08 - 11:35 pm | #
For a while I thought the anti McCain talk was just a clever plan to somehow innoculate McCain from the rampant "kill all Rightwingers" virus that will be sweeping our nation for the next several years, but now is see that it is genuine, if absolutely inexplicable. Those people on the Ratwing are just plain bonko-bananas.
EXACTLY! I always assumed the fringe right would feign outrage at McCain, with Angry McWalnuts finally triangulating against the 2-300 sane Republicans left to gain their nose-holding vote.
Naw, they really HATE this guy. Fucking awesome.
gravity |
02.09.08 - 11:36 pm | #
I guess McCain really is the heir apparent to Reagan—they're both decrepit zombies.
puppethead |
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02.09.08 - 11:36 pm | #
That bizarre Jindal character who's the governor of LA was being awfully positive about Obama tonight. Don't know quite what to make of it. He was wearing a fake Tony Blair shirt with an Eton collar and sweating on camera. The whole thing was a bit ... eerie, since he's a known believer in primitive things like, eg, demonic possession.
nobody |
02.09.08 - 11:37 pm | #
This requires me to be obnoxious and irritating in return.
This is where you err, grasshopper...
SteveLG |
02.09.08 - 11:37 pm | #
You've been posting here for HOW long, exactly?
Duane V
Ask me tonight? Too long.
Ask me tomorrow?...
GOBAMA GO!!!
Elias - It's all about meme! |
02.09.08 - 11:37 pm | #
The campaign's slogan would be "more cowbell" and the TV advertising would consist of Walken staring silently into the camera for 60 seconds (a la Mike Gravel).
Harry Doghiney (D-TX) |
02.09.08 - 11:37 pm | #
Thunder and lightning in Queens!
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
Hey Janeane - you remember a teevee show called "UFO" ? It's one of my favorites from way back when. That and "Space 1999"..
Duane V |
02.09.08 - 11:37 pm | #
You've been posting here for HOW long, exactly?
Duane V
He's still harping on something said two threads ago?
Terry C, Clintonista |
Homepage |
02.09.08 - 11:37 pm | #
I guess McCain really is the heir apparent to Reagan—they're both decrepit zombies.
puppethead |
And both were rapidly deteriorating mentally at the time they were running for the presidency!
Duane V |
02.09.08 - 11:39 pm | #
Barack on SNL.
Mr French |
02.09.08 - 11:39 pm | #
I saw this film last nite. A friend has a health related non-profit here in CA and Weisberg gave him a copy.
Thanks very much for that link.
Gillie on the Spey |
02.09.08 - 11:39 pm | #
Huckabee is pimping jesus in some wierd way?
focus
Hucksterbee is more snake oil salesman or carny than pimp.
Terry C, Clintonista |
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02.09.08 - 11:39 pm | #
The campaign's slogan would be "more cowbell" and the TV advertising would consist of Walken staring silently into the camera for 60 seconds (a la Mike Gravel).
Harry Doghiney
Yeah, I got it the first time you posted it earlier today...
Elias - It's all about meme! |
02.09.08 - 11:39 pm | #
Walken/Nader '08: Our Cowbell will defeat terrorism, end crime, eliminate poverty, homelessness, hunger, and war. We will also take care of that annoying neighbor and their barking dog! More Cowbell!
candymarl |
02.09.08 - 11:40 pm | #
Elias, head for the fem hygiene aisle. I hear there's stuff to help with that.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.09.08 - 11:40 pm | #
Those don't come to mind, sorry...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
That's ok! I'm something of a sci fi tv geek..
Duane V |
02.09.08 - 11:40 pm | #
Yeah, I got it the first time you posted it earlier today...
Wasn't me.
Someone else posted it yesterday, and I still think it's funny.
Harry Doghiney (D-TX) |
02.09.08 - 11:40 pm | #
I just had alaskan salmon with teriyaki reduction and a 2002 battle creek pinot noir, and my candidate won 2-1 in the caucuses.
People are fighting about stuff? What is there to fight about?
MikeJ |
02.09.08 - 11:41 pm | #
He's still harping on something said two threads ago?
Terry C, Clintonista
Try 3 days.
That's when someone brought my mother into it. Or am I having a problem with women?
Elias - It's all about meme! |
02.09.08 - 11:41 pm | #
Regardless, I just want a democrat to win.
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.09.08 - 11:41 pm | #
Duane V | 02.09.08 - 11:40 pm | #
Did like Dr. Who, though. William Hartnell is my favorite. The new series is a bit too slick for my tastes, but I like David Tennant and I loved the "School Reunion" episode with Sarah Jane Smith coming back.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.09.08 - 11:41 pm | #
ease off, elias
gravity
I'm okay...
Ommmmm.
Ommmmm.
Ommmmm.
Elias - It's all about meme! |
02.09.08 - 11:41 pm | #
Or am I having a problem with women?
If the shoe fits.
Terry C, Clintonista |
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02.09.08 - 11:42 pm | #
Did everyone enjoy Obama pointedly praising McCain's half-century of service to America?
"Yes folks, that's half a century... fifty LONG YEARS... give the man credit... that's a LONG DAMN TIME. Jeez, that's before I was born. I hope when I'm that age in about thirty years...."
Ninety percent for Obama in the Virgin Islands.
heh.
SteveLG |
02.09.08 - 11:42 pm | #
Tom Baker was the best Doctor.
annie |
02.09.08 - 11:42 pm | #
This guy is so stiff and humorless. Perfect host for SNL.
Duane V |
02.09.08 - 11:42 pm | #
Headed for -9 tonight, I'd rather have a thunderstorm.
FeralLiberal |
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02.09.08 - 11:42 pm | #
remember a teevee show called "UFO" ? It's one of my favorites from way back when. That and "Space 1999"..
Duane V
heh.
Blue hair.
Silver mini-dress.
Gerry Anderson visual effects.
...and that's without googling.
Remember the episode of the white-haired commander on the go-cart in the CO2-fog-filled room?
SLD Goodale |
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02.09.08 - 11:43 pm | #
head for the fem hygiene aisle. I hear there's stuff to help with that.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
Since he's an expert on PMS and people being "post-menopausal".
Terry C, Clintonista |
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02.09.08 - 11:43 pm | #
Elias, head for the fem hygiene aisle. I hear there's stuff to help with that.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
RE: Terry C, Feminista.
Elias - It's all about meme! |
02.09.08 - 11:43 pm | #
serinity now ... insanity later
gravity |
02.09.08 - 11:43 pm | #
The GOP, the freepers, and the MSM all seem to think this Dem primary season is anti-Clinton or anti-Obama voting and that the Dems are going to be weakened by it. But it isn't people voting "against" Hillary or people voting "against" Obama.
We're choosing between Betty and Veronica and the GOP chose Mr. Weatherby. He will be crushed this fall.
WalterNeff, Caucassed |
02.09.08 - 11:43 pm | #
Hey Janeane - you remember a teevee show called "UFO" ?
I loved that show. SHADO protecting us from the aliens.
puppethead |
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02.09.08 - 11:44 pm | #
Feral,
It's probably about that temperature right now here in St. Paul.
If Hillary's the nominee, she just might win because the GOP base seems to despise McCain.
There are so many evolving and entrenched narratives, counter-narratives and preferences that will come into play in the general election, regardless of which candidate the Democrats nominate, that, I think, it's just impossible to know how things will break.
Gillie on the Spey |
02.09.08 - 11:45 pm | #
RE: Terry C, Feminista.
Elias - It's all about meme!
But he has no problem with women....
Terry C, Clintonista |
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02.09.08 - 11:45 pm | #
Did like Dr. Who, though. William Hartnell is my favorite. The new series is a bit too slick for my tastes, but I like David Tennant and I loved the "School Reunion" episode with Sarah Jane Smith coming back.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
I'm getting SOOOO tired of hearing Pat Buchanan declare that there's no fucking way on his earth that white people would ever actually vote for the darkie.
Luckily, Rachel Maddow keeps getting to smack him down.
gimmeabreak |
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02.09.08 - 11:45 pm | #
We're choosing between Betty and Veronica and the GOP chose Mr. Weatherby. He will be crushed this fall.
WalterNeff, Caucassed
He's the 2008 version of Bob Dole.
Terry C, Clintonista |
Homepage |
02.09.08 - 11:46 pm | #
Found some interesting articles about Obama's mother, maternal family and his half-sister. Posted at bottom of thread below.
jawbone |
02.09.08 - 11:46 pm | #
I'm getting SOOOO tired of hearing Pat Buchanan declare that there's no fucking way on his earth that white people would ever actually vote for the darkie.
Apropos of nothing, I used to live right near McCain's office in Phoenix many, many years ago.
Working myself dog-tired at a shit job night after noght, dead broke nearly all the time. And this was in 1991.
desert walker |
02.09.08 - 11:47 pm | #
What a tool.
Terry C, Clintonista |
Homepage |
02.09.08 - 11:47 pm | #
Zap,
After the cold snap, more snow on the way. Parts of Wis are going to break records for total amounts of snow this year.
FeralLiberal |
Homepage |
02.09.08 - 11:47 pm | #
I didn't want to make an endorsement.... ...but here it is:
Dang. I was hoping you'd be endorsing my preferred candidate, who I have learned just this evening also sucks.
Gillie on the Spey |
02.09.08 - 11:47 pm | #
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
I haven't even tried to get into the new Dr. Who..I'm all about the originals. It's sort of like the way I feel about Star Trek. Did kinda like Star Trek TNG, tho...I heard the new Battlestar Galactica was good, but I haven't watched that either.
Duane V |
02.09.08 - 11:47 pm | #
The Embraced. Great vampire series.
candymarl |
02.09.08 - 11:48 pm | #
Parts of Wis are going to break records for total amounts of snow this year.
FeralLiberal
We have had virtually zero snow in the DC area this winter... a little bit in December, iirc. Nothing since.
SteveLG |
02.09.08 - 11:48 pm | #
What a tool.
Terry C, Clintonista
Flattery will get you everywhere...
*blushing*
Elias - It's all about meme! |
02.09.08 - 11:48 pm | #
Working myself dog-tired at a shit job night after noght, dead broke nearly all the time. And this was in 1991.
desert walker
During the misrule of Bush I.
Repugnican presidencies....aren't they just wonderful?
Terry C, Clintonista |
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02.09.08 - 11:49 pm | #
Kinda like Infragard?
Actually, now that I'm remembering UFO I wonder how it compares to today's scary terrorism paranoia. The TV show was really sophisticated in how it explored the motivations and emotions of the various players.
puppethead |
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02.09.08 - 11:49 pm | #
Feral Liberal, here in Tri-State area we're heading for second least snowy winter on record!
What a diff.
The Birkebeiner should be great this year--in recent years there hasn't been enough snow sometimes to permit the citizen race.
jawbone |
02.09.08 - 11:49 pm | #
Terry, all I can conclude is that Elias has never had anyone other than a blowup doll communicate with him.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.09.08 - 11:49 pm | #
Apropos of nothing, I used to live right near McCain's office in Phoenix many, many years ago.
Anyone here live near Joe Scarborough's office in Fort Walton Beach, Florida around July 2001?
Harry Doghiney (D-TX) |
02.09.08 - 11:49 pm | #
No Sci-fi tv show will ever beat Babylon 5. Best. Show. Ever.
annie |
02.09.08 - 11:49 pm | #
GOODNIGHT EVERYONE!!!
GOBAMA GO!!!!!
Elias - It's all about meme! |
02.09.08 - 11:49 pm | #
I loved that show. SHADO protecting us from the aliens.
puppethead |
I wish someone would show reruns!
Duane V |
02.09.08 - 11:49 pm | #
Terry, all I can conclude is that Elias has never had anyone other than a blowup doll communicate with him.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
I'm inclined to agree.
Terry C, Clintonista |
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02.09.08 - 11:50 pm | #
.I heard the new Battlestar Galactica was good, but I haven't watched that either.
I grew up on original battlestar. you can download episodes of the new series for $1.99 from Amazon. you can thank me later.
gravity |
02.09.08 - 11:51 pm | #
waiting...
Elias - It's all about meme! |
02.09.08 - 11:51 pm | #
Yeah, Feral...it's bleeping freezing right now.
Anyhoo, I'm gonna go to bed now. And I'm gonna push for an Obama candidacy now.
I'm showing how lame and partisan I really am. Goodnight.
Zap Rowsdower |
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02.09.08 - 11:51 pm | #
Pat and Noron just could not see any reason at all why people would support Hillary. Robertson said it's bcz the Clintons will "bite, scratch, claw, anything" to win. And that's why voters support Hillary.
Not one of them mentioned her policies and issues.
Damn--how could that happen on MSNBC????
jawbone |
02.09.08 - 11:51 pm | #
Whenever I heard "Dr. Who", I think of Tom Baker.
Terry C, Clintonista |
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02.09.08 - 11:52 pm | #
still waiting...
Elias - It's all about meme! |
02.09.08 - 11:52 pm | #
I grew up on original battlestar. you can download episodes of the new series for $1.99 from Amazon. you can thank me later.
gravity
Yegad, just let the dogs in from outside. Dangerously cold. -8 air temp, -35 windchill. And that's the new, deadlier windchill scale.
puppethead |
Homepage |
02.09.08 - 11:53 pm | #
I did like Tom Baker at first, but dug Hartnell more.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.09.08 - 11:53 pm | #
I have some great photo grabs from a wedding today with Nikon View.
I want to make a slideshow and put a bit of music in the background.
I can't.
Puhleez help you good hearted people.
TinyPorcelainMouse |
02.09.08 - 11:53 pm | #
Comment by annie blocked.
Comment by Elias - It's all about meme! blocked. [unkill][show comment]
Of course, when reporters write about Clinton's town hall or small group meetings, where real voters seem really interested in what Clinton will do for them and the country as president, the reporters are sooooooo surprised.
Some of the same reporters who were astonished that people actually listened to Bill Clinton's SOTU speeches, with higher audience counts toward the end!
They do not learn, to they, these MCMers?
jawbone |
02.09.08 - 11:53 pm | #
Killfile's getting a work out tonight.
Supreme Commander Thor |
02.09.08 - 11:54 pm | #
The spin in DC is that Donna Edwards is doomed because she said she'd think about a commuter tax as opposed to being outright against it like Al Wynn.
P O'Neill |
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02.09.08 - 11:55 pm | #
I am not unsympathetic. There are clearly no rational reasons to support your favorite candidate, so it is only logical to rummage in the danker, smellier corners of your soul for the origins of your bizarre and inexplicable preference of a presidential candidate who sucks. Please be assured however that I do not judge you harshly for the fact that you surely like to molest squirrels while high on crack cocaine. This is likely only the melancholy if inevitable consequence of your upbringing in a family of dysfunctional, alcoholic leprechauns. With therapy, you may heal. Perhaps.
The MSM pride themselves on their relentless pursuit of stupidity...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.09.08 - 11:56 pm | #
when reporters write about Clinton's town hall or small group meetings, where real voters seem really interested in what Clinton will do for them and the country as president, the reporters are sooooooo surprised.
re: Babylon 5. I agree. I wish the SciFi channel would bring it back.
Best dinnertime tv ever.
annie |
02.09.08 - 11:56 pm | #
When I think of Tom Baker I think of Koura the Magician.
SLD Goodale
My daddy used to take us to those Sinbad movies, and their ilk. The girls were always teh cute and made me feel all funny.
Harry Doghiney (D-TX) |
02.09.08 - 11:56 pm | #
Since we're talking about British shows, etc:
Has anyone ever seen the British mini-series of "The Life and Loves of a She Devil"?
I wish I could find that on DVD. I've been looking on ebay forever.
Tom Baker was in that, too.
Terry C, Clintonista |
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02.09.08 - 11:57 pm | #
Whenever I heard "Dr. Who", I think of Tom Baker.
Jon Pertwee. I started with Troughton, but Pertwee won my heart.
sidhraصي ذ |
02.09.08 - 11:57 pm | #
never saw the bastard, either. I actually had a little respect for him years ago, until he started sucking up to BushCo.
Now that the current regime has owned up to committing torture, it'll be interesting to see how the Dems challenge a former POW, actual torture survivor and SUPPORTER of the regime on this inexplicable position.
Of course, the media will probably position it as "those big, bad Dems picking on poor widdle sensitive former POW tough as nails McCain"
F***. This f***ing country has a diagnosible schizophrenic disorder, and the prescription is no-interest adustable rate mortgages backed by the full faith of remote-controlled cruise-missle firing drones.
desert walker |
02.09.08 - 11:57 pm | #
G'Kar: "My patience is infinite. (But) since space and time are curved, the infinite sooner or later bends back upon itself... and ends up where it began. And so have I. I can only wait so long."
SLD Goodale |
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02.09.08 - 11:57 pm | #
when reporters write about Clinton's town hall or small group meetings, where real voters seem really interested in what Clinton will do for them and the country as president, the reporters are sooooooo surprised.
They're surprised that Bill didn't do that before handpicked, vetted audiences who had to sign loyalty oaths.
Like their popular war preznit does.
Terry C, Clintonista |
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02.09.08 - 11:58 pm | #
Yeah, part of the CJR article about the Obama and Clinton rallies was about how bored the reporters were with both of them, but writer said Hillary makes it harder for them to summarize bcz she has more details and more varied themes.
jawbone |
02.09.08 - 11:58 pm | #
The MSM pride themselves on their relentless pursuit of stupidity...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
Say it with me now;"lowest". "Common". "denominator".
Duane V |
02.09.08 - 11:58 pm | #
G'Kar: "My patience is infinite. (But) since space and time are curved,
the infinite sooner or later bends back upon itself... and ends up
where it began. And so have I. I can only wait so long."
Tom Baker was teh Dr. Who.
Tralfaz |
02.09.08 - 11:59 pm | #
I had a thing for the first Romana...
FeralLiberal |
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02.09.08 - 11:59 pm | #
writer said Hillary makes it harder for them to summarize bcz she has more details and more varied themes.
jawbone
And they have such short attention spans.
Terry C, Clintonista |
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02.09.08 - 11:59 pm | #
"No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against that power tyrants and dictators cannot stand."
G'Kar was my favorite.
annie |
02.09.08 - 11:59 pm | #
I'd say this person contradicted himself.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
...guess you had to be there. It's funnier in the original Narn.
SLD Goodale |
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02.10.08 - 12:00 am | #
Hillary makes it harder for them to summarize bcz she has more details and more varied themes.
Better media pleeze.
Can anyone provide a capsule review of the Christian Science Monitor? I dumped the NYT for the Kristol Ass-hattery, and the Austin American-Statesman three years ago for endorsing George W. Bush (forgivable in 2000 for any Texas paper, not so in 2004).
Harry Doghiney (D-TX) |
02.10.08 - 12:00 am | #
Well, Frank Rich accuses Hillary of doing Bush-style set-up audiences on her Hallmark Channel national town meeting last Monday.
Indeed, Rich hits almost every talking point for dissing Hillary you can imagine.
jawbone |
02.10.08 - 12:00 am | #
I had a thing for the first Romana...
Monsieur said for him it was Mrs. Peel. And Samantha on Bewitched.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.10.08 - 12:01 am | #
but writer said Hillary makes it harder for them to summarize bcz she has more details and more varied themes.
jawbone |
You mean, she actually has policy positions? That's too complicated for the MCM!
Duane V |
02.10.08 - 12:01 am | #
maybe I'll try it
Duane V
as far as "thanking me later", I take PayPal.
desert walker |
02.10.08 - 12:01 am | #
All the Doctors were interesting in their own way, even the much maligned Colin Baker.
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin |
02.10.08 - 12:01 am | #
that either.
Duane V | 02.09.08 - 11:47 pm |
Duane V I'm going to give a big time plug to the BSG reimagining. It is really, really good. Some of the best writing and acting your will see on tv.
I put it in the same catagory as The Wire and the Sopranos. Intelligent, complex, dealing with big issues in fiction, only in this case, science fiction. And it does what SF does best, take a problem that is current and allow us to get some distance to look at it anew when it is set in another world.
I've convinced two non-sf fans to watch it and not they recommend it to people who are fans of good story telling.
Spoc ko |
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02.10.08 - 12:01 am | #
Rich hits almost every talking point for dissing Hillary you can imagine.
jawbone
Fuck Frank Rich.
Sideway....etc, etc, etc.
Terry C, Clintonista |
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02.10.08 - 12:01 am | #
Noron does have a unique laugh.
jawbone |
02.10.08 - 12:01 am | #
More G'Kar:
"By G'Quan, I can't recall the last time I was in a fight like that! No moral ambiguity, no hopeless battle against ancient and over whelming forces! They were the bad guys... We were the good guys! And...they made a very satisfying THUMP when they hit the floor!"
SLD Goodale |
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02.10.08 - 12:02 am | #
Someone ought to put a muzzle on Norah when she laughs.
Andy |
02.10.08 - 12:02 am | #
I had a thing for the first Romana...
Monsieur said for him it was Mrs. Peel. And Samantha on Bewitched.
Loved Mrs. Peel, didn't ever care much for Samantha.
But was able to meet Mary Tamm (the first Romana) in person. Yoaza!
Supreme Commander Thor |
02.10.08 - 12:02 am | #
And...they made a very satisfying THUMP when they hit the floor!"
LOL, I was just remembering that and laughing.
annie |
02.10.08 - 12:02 am | #
I decided I'm not leaving, dammit!
Zap Rowsdower |
Homepage |
02.10.08 - 12:02 am | #
Can anyone provide a capsule review of the Christian Science Monitor?
It's good. And honest.
SLD Goodale |
Homepage |
02.10.08 - 12:02 am | #
Noron does have a unique laugh.
jawbone | 02.10.08 - 12:01 am | #
She makes Phyliss Diller sound like Enya.
Andy |
02.10.08 - 12:02 am | #
Noron does have a unique laugh.
jawbone
When's she gonna lay that egg?
Terry C, Clintonista |
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02.10.08 - 12:03 am | #
I am going to caucus for Barak Obama tomorrow.
sidhraصي ذ |
02.10.08 - 12:03 am | #
But was able to meet Mary Tamm (the first Romana) in person
I have some kind of thing for dead men in black.
annie |
02.10.08 - 12:04 am | #
And...they made a very satisfying THUMP when they hit the floor!"
LOL, I was just remembering that and laughing.
annie
I miss Andreas.
SLD Goodale |
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02.10.08 - 12:04 am | #
It's good. And honest.
SLD Goodale
Thanks-I've heard the same elsewhere and intend to give it a test drive.
Harry Doghiney (D-TX) |
02.10.08 - 12:05 am | #
Obi Wan to Repubs: McCain is not the candidate you're looking for. Huckabee is.
candymarl |
02.10.08 - 12:05 am | #
And Kristof replaces MoDo this Sunday and tells us that people aren't ready for woment leaders. That most women leaders have not accomplished much (well, since Elizebeth I and Catherine the Great).
That villagers in India don't reelect female village leaders even though they are more effective than their male counterparts (they maintain services better, etc.). Plus, when the same speech is heard from a man it is considered much better than when heard in a woman's voice.
The op-ed page is just wonderful tomorrow!
jawbone |
02.10.08 - 12:05 am | #
I've convinced two non-sf fans to watch it and not they recommend it to people who are fans of good story telling.
Spoc ko |
Well, you've got me convinced. Looks like I've got some teevee viewing to catch up on!
Duane V |
02.10.08 - 12:05 am | #
I'm going to give a big time plug to the BSG reimagining. It is really, really good.
That's what I keep hearing, and I've tried to watch it, but I just can't get past the shaky-cam.
Where is there a caucus tomorrow?
jawbone | 02.10.08 - 12:06 am | #
Maine, I believe.
Barbarism Begins at Home |
02.10.08 - 12:07 am | #
Why is Monsieur watching The DaVinci Code?
I'm all for dumb movies, but I prefer them to be entertaining.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.10.08 - 12:07 am | #
OTOH, we watched the premiere episode of the original BSG via Netflix "Watch Now" a few weeks ago and had a jolly good time. Talk about cheesy!
Anne Lockhart...*sigh*
Harry Doghiney (D-TX) |
02.10.08 - 12:07 am | #
Where is there a caucus tomorrow?
jawbone | 02.10.08 - 12:06 am | #
Dunno, but I find it much more democratic to hold elections on weekends rather than Tuesdays.
Gilly Gonzylon |
02.10.08 - 12:07 am | #
And Kristof replaces MoDo this Sunday and tells us that people aren't ready for woment leaders. That most women leaders have not accomplished much (well, since Elizebeth I and Catherine the Great).
I'm convinced they pay that man by negative IQ points.
gravity |
02.10.08 - 12:07 am | #
She makes Phyliss Diller sound like Enya.
Andy |
Heh, heh, heh. Good line.
Duane V |
02.10.08 - 12:07 am | #
But was able to meet Mary Tamm (the first Romana) in person
Lucky You, SCT!
It was many, many years ago--probably 82, 83, there about. But a charming woman.
One of the good things about living in Chicago at that time were the Dr. Who conventions of the early-1980's. You got to see damn near everyone who was alive who'd been on the shows. One small con in the area my family and I spent about 45 minutes just shooting the shit with Colin Baker, talking about England and the weather and how he liked Chicago and stuff like that.
Supreme Commander Thor |
02.10.08 - 12:07 am | #
Well, remember to watch the 14 episodes of Firefly. Ya gotta have those.
You absolutely do.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere |
02.10.08 - 12:07 am | #
Where is there a caucus tomorrow?
jawbone
Maine?
Yes. In the snow, it seems.
sidhraصي ذ |
02.10.08 - 12:07 am | #
Peace out!
Harry Doghiney (D-TX) |
02.10.08 - 12:08 am | #
Where is there a caucus tomorrow?
Maine, and it's the one to watch. The Clintons are leaning hard on this and relying on their natural NE strength. If ME turns out close to a draw, then it spells trouble for the Clinton campaign.
gravity |
02.10.08 - 12:08 am | #
Dunno, but I find it much more democratic to hold elections on weekends rather than Tuesdays.
I like it too, but my cheese lady was complaining today that she couldn't go, since today is the busiest day. Maybe in an election instead of a caucus.
MikeJ |
02.10.08 - 12:09 am | #
May I just drop in and say that I am still very enamored of this video by Les Savy Fav? The song kicks.
So, when's the election?
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MisterX |
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02.10.08 - 12:09 am | #
Well, remember to watch the 14 episodes of Firefly. Ya gotta have those.
SLD Goodale
I liked the movie derived from the series. Isn't the writer doing comic books now?
Duane V |
02.10.08 - 12:09 am | #
Oh, Maine! For some reason I didn't realize it was on a Sunday. Have fun.
jawbone |
02.10.08 - 12:09 am | #
That most women leaders have not accomplished much (well, since Elizebeth I and Catherine the Great).
Golda Mier and Maggie Thatcher, just off the top of my head, are probably lookin' to kick somebody's butt right about now (either in the here or the hereafter)...
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester |
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02.10.08 - 12:10 am | #
Lots of Obama support up here.
Duane V |
02.10.08 - 12:10 am | #
Can anyone provide a capsule review of the Christian Science Monitor? I dumped the NYT for the Kristol Ass-hattery, and the Austin American-Statesman three years ago for endorsing George W. Bush (forgivable in 2000 for any Texas paper, not so in 2004).
It used to be very good. Still is, but thin.
Echidne of the snakes |
Homepage |
02.10.08 - 12:10 am | #
Bring back BLakes's Seven!
They were smart enough to beam down with weapons drawn already. That helped them survive a lot. That and no red shirts, of course.
George Johnston |
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02.10.08 - 12:10 am | #
And Kristoff replaces MoDo this Sunday and tells us that people aren't ready for woment leaders. That most women leaders have not accomplished much (well, since Elizebeth I and Catherine the Great).
Shit for brains.
Terry C, Clintonista |
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02.10.08 - 12:10 am | #
The spin in DC is that Donna Edwards is doomed because she said she'd think about a commuter tax as opposed to being outright against it like Al Wynn.
Edwards doesn't appear to be having any problems raising money.
Gillie on the Spey |
02.10.08 - 12:11 am | #
Speaking of the original BSG, Richard Hatch and Herb Jefferson are going to be "special guests" at WonderCon in SF in a couple of weeks.
It used to be very good. Still is, but thin.
Echidne of the snakes
...wish I was thin.
SLD Goodale |
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02.10.08 - 12:11 am | #
Bring back BLakes's Seven!
They were smart enough to beam down with weapons drawn already. That helped them survive a lot. That and no red shirts, of course.
Still quite a few people got whacked out during the course of the show. Particularly at the end--or did they?
Supreme Commander Thor |
02.10.08 - 12:12 am | #
It's remarkable to lose 120 pounds... I hear they're selling swatches of Huckabee skin on EBay.
melior |
02.10.08 - 12:12 am | #
plus a Clinton win or near-win in ME allows some face-saving for the Monday headlines. The fact that Bill's mea culpa interview for local ME news was broadcast far and wide indicates the campaign has identified Bill as a liability when he's seen as taking a lead role in Hillary's campaign.. which underlines this weekend's "dust-up" (Bills' words) over the MSNBC comments.. we'll see if it's enough to motivate those older ME voters, it might be.. on the other hand...
gravity |
02.10.08 - 12:12 am | #
It's remarkable to lose 120 pounds... I hear they're selling swatches of Huckabee skin on EBay.
melior
He looks like a deflated balloon.
Honestly.
Terry C, Clintonista |
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02.10.08 - 12:12 am | #
Edwards doesn't appear to be having any problems raising money.
BSG isn't worth watching for the plot, just for how even in drama they try to manipulate us. It's the only drama I follow, but the storyline got ridiculous some time ago. (I imagine Lost is the same way, though I only saw one episode)
Mike |
02.10.08 - 12:13 am | #
Did Hucklebee have gastric surgery to lose weight?
Doug |
02.10.08 - 12:14 am | #
HOO Haw!
LONDON (AFP) - OPEC could switch the pricing of oil from dollars into euros within a decade, secretary general Abdullah al-Badri told a weekly magazine.
The Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries could adopt the euro to combat the decline of the dollar, Badri told the Middle East Economic Digest (MEED), published in London.
"Maybe we can price the oil in the euro. It can be done, but it will take time," he said.
Badri told MEED the change could happen within a decade, the magazine said.
MEED recalled that OPEC is under pressure from its members, who have seen their earnings decline sharply since 2000 due to its use of the dollar. The US currency has fallen 44 percent in value against the euro in that time.
Gilly Gonzylon |
02.10.08 - 12:14 am | #
Just came back from Persepolis. Interesting watching about the complexities of a culture this country will likely bomb sooner or later.
Mike |
02.10.08 - 12:14 am | #
Lost is pretty good, but I mean, they still aren't totally off the island yet. That kinda pisses me off.
annie |
02.10.08 - 12:15 am | #
It used to be very good. Still is, but thin.
An old Boston wag, I forget who, once said if he had his way he'd only read the Monitor, except he'd never know who died. They don't print obits.
sidhraصي ذ |
02.10.08 - 12:15 am | #
BSG isn't worth watching for the plot, just for how even in drama they try to manipulate us. It's the only drama I follow, but the storyline got ridiculous some time ago. (I imagine Lost is the same way, though I only saw one episode)
they keep these story arcs alive much longer than they deserve. I say, plan for 2-3 seasons, write a solid and believable ending, move on. No one wants to kill the cash cow, though..
gravity |
02.10.08 - 12:15 am | #
In Washington state 31,094 (96% reporting) Democrats showed up to vote compaired to 11,743 (78% reporting) Republicans.
I don't know what Josh (creater of Firefly is doing now) I think he is working on a Wonder Woman movie.
He did do a forward to the great graphic novel "Identity Crisis" that talked about the DC universe in a modern way. It was really good. I'm not a big graphic novel comic fan, but I was impressed with this story. It focused on the secret identities of the super heroes and why the use them. A big part of that is to protect their loved ones from danger.
As someone with a secret identity (ohhh, mysterious!) I related to the story, but I think a lot of other people liked it too because it talks about what people will do for love, father son stuff and the fears of everyone.
Spoc ko |
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02.10.08 - 12:16 am | #
Isn't he writing x-men?
Duane V |
02.10.08 - 12:18 am | #
I dislike when those types analyze to death the "meaning" of the TV show/film. They take away the mystery of it all...
Janeane The Acerbic Goblin
The biggest risk they run is showing off they missed the point entirely.
George Johnston |
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02.10.08 - 12:19 am | #
Persepolis
Great comic!
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MisterX |
Homepage |
02.10.08 - 12:19 am | #
I don't know what Josh (creater of Firefly is doing now) I think he is working on a Wonder Woman movie.
Nope. Joss got yanked out of WW due to "creative differences" between him and the studio. So he took his check and beat it.
Has a short-run show coming out on Fox, probably over the late summer, called "Dollhouse".
There's also another Serenity graphic novel (or comic, take your pick) coming out soon.
Beyond that he's probably working on new stuff and probably reading tons of mail that begin, "Bring back Buffy, fucker!"
Supreme Commander Thor |
02.10.08 - 12:20 am | #
I assume all the Buffy fans are reading the Season Eight comic, right?
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MisterX |
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02.10.08 - 12:21 am | #
He looks like a deflated balloon.
Honestly.
Terry C, Clintonista
...Mrs Jack K. looked at me with shocked amazement when I told her that Mike Huckleberry was nine months younger than I am...
She wondered if there were such a thing as "make you look older" surgery that he might have undergone. I was very flattered...
Jack K., the Grumpy Forester |
Homepage |
02.10.08 - 12:22 am | #
uhh, there's a season eight buffy comic? (Leaves, goes to wait in snow at comic store til morning....)
Duane V |
02.10.08 - 12:23 am | #
uhh, there's a season eight buffy comic? (Leaves, goes to wait in snow at comic store til morning....)
Duane V
Yeah, you'll like it... Joss has his paws all over it.
And BUFFY #12 is gonna blow your mind. Trust me.
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MisterX |
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02.10.08 - 12:28 am | #
Ouch? C'mon Atrios. Are you saying that being called a senior is bad? Sounds like you're agist. I think in the future we're going to be seeing more and more people being called out for simple remarks like that.
While I am not quite there, social-security wise, it won't be too many more years. Am I suddenly supposed to feel I am something less, because I am a senior?
On the other hand, you would never find me voting for McCain, no matter his age. And Huck? Hahahahahaha.
Still, I hope I misinterpreted what your Ouch statement was all about.
Jim in AZ |
02.10.08 - 12:36 am | #
Christian Science Monitor - when I was majoring in Poli Sci in the early 80s we had a prof who required us to subscribe to it during his class. It was then an awesome paper and now even covers medical technology and pharmaceuticals. However, I don't know how it stacks up against, say the WSJ, for news quality today. Obviously the WSJ editorial section is run by a bunch of religious fascists - they even put in columns written by Discovery Institute nimwits.
TEBB, uppity female |
02.10.08 - 12:40 am | #
Can you feel it? HUCKMENTUM!!!
Pocket Rocket |
02.10.08 - 1:33 am | #
McCain iz OLD!!!
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
Homepage |
02.10.08 - 2:19 am | #
Can you feel it? HUCKMENTUM!!!
I can feeel it baybeeee
fourlegsgood, gots torch du U? |
Homepage |
02.10.08 - 2:21 am | #
frank rich equates everything with a broadway play. he repeated every bullshit statement ever made about gore in last election. rich, worse than dowd.
hilldick |
02.10.08 - 6:26 am | #