I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
CNN is posed to predict the winner of the Wyoming GOP caucus is . . . Dick Cheney.
DAMN!!!
Viva Falafel!
Lotsathreads.
Of course, falafel is NOT a delicacy...
Cut his mic!!
Fucking hilarious!
Well, well, well. Back again after almost 10 days on the road with precious little internet.
oh that is fucking brilliant
Maybe they were shouting "Feel awful!", because they want him to get sick.
CNN is posed to predict the winner of the Wyoming GOP caucus is . . . Dick Cheney.
Snow, Liberal
he's going to be huckleberry's running mate.
Oops. Apparently Romney will win Wyoming.
Life is good.
racy set of telephone conversations
There's a euphemism.
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Would I be a bad person to say that I am so glad O'Wanker got "manhandled"?
Keith is going to have so much fun with that.
Damn, I was being so two threads ago, totally talking to myself.
SteveLG
In case you missed it
mille grazie amico
I always liked falafel until he ruined it forever.
Hello lovely people.
I shudder to think of how O'Reilly is misusing the word hummus.
I got falafeled out somewhere in my 20's.
did he get it? was he pissed? (i won't click a salon link just now)
"I have a confession. During the shoving, I found myself yelling at O'Reilly to grow up, which was thoroughly unprofessional, except that I have little kids and I think it's important to discipline misbehavior immediately. If I don't dare to discipline, they'll grow up to be like, well, Bill O'Reilly."
O'Reilly hatemonger," yelled a woman. A few other people gave him the bird. "I hate you Bill," yelled a man. "You can't stop us Bill," yelled another. I thought someone might brain him with one of those Obama "Hope" signs.
Oh, that is SO funny.
Marcellina - the bread was perfect. I've been nibbling on it all day and we'll have it instead of taters with dinner tonight.
Did O'Reilly turn to the first black person he saw and tell them to bring him a "mother fucking iced tea"?
Falafel! Of course, falafel! How else can you get a hummus job?
Oops. Irish immigrant giving it to the Romney.
You guys wanna talk to me later? I think I need a nap!
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Those damn liberal fascists!
-Jonah Goldberg
o'reilly claimed the declaration of the bill of rights guarantees the pursuit of falafels.
"Bill O’Reilly in confrontation with Obama staffer at rally: Screams at Marvin Nicholson
By: John Amato on Saturday, January 5th, 2008 at 12:30 PM - PST
Bill O’Reilly rules the world! The king of the sandbag technique tries to hassle Obama.
Bombastic Fox News host Bill O’Reilly got into a confrontation with an Obama aide after O’Reilly started screaming at him as he tried to get Barack Obama’s attention following a rally here.
The incident was triggered when O’Reilly–with a Fox News crew shooting–was screaming at Obama National Trip Director Marvin Nicholson “Move” so he could get Obama’s attention, according to several eyewitnesses. “O’Reilly was yelling at him, yelling at his face,” a photographer shooting the scene said.
O’Reilly grabbed Nicholson’s arm, said “move” and shoved him, another eyewitness said. Nicholson, who is 6′8 said O”Reilly called him “low class.” Secret Service agents came after O’Reilly pushed Nicholson and the agents flanked O’Reilly…read on"
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...rvin-nicholson/
The stage was reserved for an overflow of supporters; McCain and his improbably blonde wife, Cindy (whom Lieberman Yiddishly referred to as “Sidney”),
Hmmm..... that's from the last thread
racy set of telephone conversations
There's a euphemism.
There we go...
Hopefully one that will send lots of non-blog-reading Slate types to teh Google
Jeffraham
I won't be around later to talk to you.
The woman he was harassing, not the woman he was "trying to seduce".
It is not a crime to cross the border illegally, Mitt.
Intellectual integrity and independence have little value for most people.
It seems we are getting our entire annual allotment of water this year in CA in one big event.
qlª: I won't be around later to talk to you.
Am I in the will?
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from the link:
"I thought someone might brain him with one of those Obama "Hope" signs."
You guys wanna talk to me later?
Tried to check out your blog just now and was told that it was for "invited only"
WHAAA!!!
the bread was perfect.
It should be OCoulter not OReilly. He's getting just as nutty as the adams apple kid.
.The woman he was harassing, not the woman he was "trying to seduce".
Really. "Trying to seduce" somebody with a heavy-breathing obscene phone call like that is beyond pathetic.
The woman he was harassing, not the woman he was "trying to seduce".
Harassment is the only form of seduction conservatives know.
mille grazie amico
qlª Back Home
Di niente. Prego.
I will be low bidder to clean up the White House after the Chimpy McSpudPants trash out one year from now...
But I refuse to touch the giant pile of feces in the corner behind Dick "Dick" Cheney's man-sized safe.
Here's what my cat Topaz thinks of Falafel Boy:
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/
2...096501088kxXmbb
Harassment is the only form of seduction conservatives know.
bloggus |
Well, that...and raping and pillaging.
The woman he was harassing, not the woman he was "trying to seduce".
brigadier
Where O'Reilly's concerned, is there any difference?
The woman he was harassing, not the woman he was "trying to seduce".
Harassment is the only form of seduction conservatives know.
bloggus
Feminazis have taken all the fun out of it
/Rush Limpdick
did he get it? was he pissed?
Apparently oblivious to everything except shoving people in his way.
From a recent CNN poll.
"As you may know, in the past few years banks and other financial institutions provided mortgages to many Americans who eventually could not afford to pay them and now may lose their homes. Do you think those people should receive special treatment that would prevent them from defaulting on their mortgages?"
Yes 51, No 46
"And do you think that the banks and other financial institutions that currently hold those mortgages should receive special treatment that would prevent them from losing money on those mortgages?"
Yes 26, No 72
"Which of the following statements comes closer to your view of those people who are now defaulting on mortgages? You think they are the victims of bad lending policies by the banks who provided mortgages to them. You feel sorry for them, but they willingly entered into those agreements and have no one to blame but themselves."
Victims of Bad Lending Policies - 46%
No One to Blame But Themselves - 51%
No wonder Bill was pissy.
Besides being pissy all the time, that is.
Ah yes. Scrolling is a wonderful thing!
The War against Christmas!
Cos, man, those two are so similar!
melior, I'm thinking cleaning out the stink in the White House will take chemicals that were banned many years ago.
Old Falafel, geyser of bullshit.
Hmmmm. Attempted seduction. I don't think you can be sued for that.
But I refuse to touch the giant pile of feces in the corner behind Dick "Dick" Cheney's man-sized safe.
You'd need a hazmat suit for that.
thanks, hec. why does that not surprise me in the least?
No wonder Bill was pissy.
Besides being pissy all the time, that is.
Supreme Commander Thor
That whole crew is pissy because JulieAnnie isn't doing very well.
Sean Hannity is probably throwing hissy fits all over the place.
O'Really is very lucky those pink-pistol-packing lesbian thug gangs he warns about didn't beat the crap out of his withered ass.
Old Falafel, geyser of bullshit.
And chickpeas.
The War against Christmas!
rootless-e
We won that.
That's another reason Falafel Boy is more obnoxious than usual.
Sean Hannity is probably throwing hissy fits all over the place.
Sean should speak with Joe S. about getting a dead secretary for a Weekend as Hannity's.
O'Really is very lucky those pink-pistol-packing lesbian thug gangs he warns about didn't beat the crap out of his withered ass.
melior
I'd PAY to see THAT.
Keith on NBC
'Really is very lucky those pink-pistol-packing lesbian thug gangs he warns about didn't beat the crap out of his withered ass
See above, re: hazmat suit, need for.
could someone please tell me how Chris Cillizza pronounces his last name? thx.
People are turned off by her because she's CWF (Campaigning While Female).
Terry C - Edwards 2008
Please. Hillary is not a victim.
I honestly think her unpopularity is more a result of the public having seen her disgraced by her husband on multiple occasions. People don't respect a doormat.
It seems we are getting our entire annual allotment of water this year in CA in one big event.
blerb
It's slopping over here too. 'Enkew!
O'Really is very lucky those pink-pistol-packing lesbian thug gangs he warns about didn't beat the crap out of his withered ass.
He hates the lesbian thugs but I'd bet he's got a stash of lesbian porn that's very well used.
could someone please tell me how Chris Cillizza pronounces his last name?
Very carefully??
/ducks and runs
Loofa? Lov'em.
Still not gay!
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O'Reilly *fans* showing the love.
Why that pervert is still on teevee is a sad mystery of life.
could someone please tell me how Chris Cillizza pronounces his last name? thx.
chicago dyke
"Throatwarbler-Mangrove."
(Sil-IZ-uh.)
57% of Americans haven't flown on a commercial airliner in the past year.
Round two of the Great Californie Deluge of '08 brings lotsa thunder. hee!
You thought I was joking about the pink pistol lesbian gangs didn't you?
No one could possibly be that much of a mouth-breathing moron.
A "national underground network" of pink pistol-packing lesbians is terrorizing America. "All across the country," they are raping young girls, attacking heterosexual males at random, and forcibly indoctrinating children as young as 10 into the homosexual lifestyle, according to a shocking June 21 segment on the popular Fox News Channel program, "The O'Reilly Factor."
I honestly think her unpopularity is more a result of the public having seen her disgraced by her husband on multiple occasions. People don't respect a doormat.
glenn
Well, if she had been a REPUKE, she'd be on her third marriage by now.
That's much more respectable, I suppose.
Why that pervert is still on teevee is a sad mystery of life.
pie
Anger porn.
Victims of Bad Lending Policies - 46%
No One to Blame But Themselves - 51%
Well of course. Because everyone knows this issue is strictly black and white.
I honestly think her unpopularity is more a result of the public having seen her disgraced by her husband on multiple occasions. People don't respect a doormat.
glenn | 01.05.08 - 4:18 pm | #
I think it has more to do with her sense of entitlement.
http://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2008...street-
dow.html
BRUTAL SELLOFF: DOW LOSSES 256
Can anybody make up to me why the fuck Bush told us 48h ago that the economy is on a solid foundation? I think Bush should join Britney Spears in psychiatry.
via Rozen, i'd missed this
More than one assassin. A shooter and an allegedly separate suicide bomber. NYT: "The new images of the men who appear to have been Ms. Bhutto’s assassins showed one dressed in a sleeveless black waistcoat and rimless sunglasses, and holding aloft what appeared to be a gun. He had a short haircut and wore the kind of attire reminiscent of plainclothes intelligence officials, though Al Qaeda and other militants have also been known to dress attackers in Western-style clothing in order to disguise them. That man is seen standing in front of another whose head is covered in a shawl in the style of Pashtun men from the Pakistan’s tribal areas, where Al Qaeda has regrouped in the past year. He is described in the newspaper Dawn as the suicide bomber."
O'Really is very lucky those pink-pistol-packing lesbian thug gangs he warns about didn't beat the crap out of his withered ass.
He can always hire pud to be his bodyguard.
With those two Glocks he SAYS he got for Xmas.
"People are turned off by her because she's CWF (Campaigning While Female)."
Oh boy.
Romney Wins Wyoming Primary
GOP True Believer Territory Growing Ever Smaller:
Rep. Duncan Hunter’s wife is in Wyoming and gave Westerners a boost:
Lynne Hunter spent Thursday in Rock Springs and was headed through Rawlins and Laramie on her way to Cheyenne for convention day.
“I think Wyoming’s very important because this is where real America is,” she said. “I don’t think real America is Iowa. I don’t mean that in a mean way, but this is where the real people are, in the Western states.”
yeah, damn those elitist liberals in iowa - damn them!!!
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A "national underground network" of pink pistol-packing lesbians is terrorizing America. "All across the country," they are raping young girls, attacking heterosexual males at random, and forcibly indoctrinating children as young as 10 into the homosexual lifestyle, according to a shocking June 21 segment on the popular Fox News Channel program, "The O'Reilly Factor."
melior
I feel cheated.
No lesbian gang has ever raped me.
Probably because I'd convert every one of 'em. They scared of my smoov and swav wayz.
I think Bush should join Britney Spears in psychiatry.
ccokz
The last thing he needs is more pharmaceuticals.
Can anybody make up to me why the fuck Bush told us 48h ago that the economy is on a solid foundation?
Gotta catapult the propaganda
And her pro-Chimp votes didn't help, either.
I know just enough Italian to have cringed every time people on the news would call Terry Schiavo: SHY-vo.
It's SKYA-vo in Italian.
Shy-vo is like fingernails on a blackboard.
A "national underground network" of pink pistol-packing lesbians is terrorizing America. "All across the country," they are raping young girls, attacking heterosexual males at random, and forcibly indoctrinating children as young as 10 into the homosexual lifestyle
Bat...shit...insane.
A bird's eye view of Hillary's town hall this morning
It's on CSPAN now.
thank you, o silly people.
“I think Wyoming’s very important because this is where real America is,” she said. “I don’t think real America is Iowa. I don’t mean that in a mean way, but this is where the real people are, in the Western states.”
Stepford Nation heard from!
There is no such thing as "real America."
Thanks for that post, Chi Dyke.
Nicholson, who is 6′8 said O”Reilly called him “low class.”
When I saw that earlier I thought it said Nicholson was 60. Had this nasty vision of Raging Bill manhandling some grey-haired volunteer.
Maybe it's because I'm 59 myself and the bifocals script could use an update.
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Can anyone else here, please, explain to me why when I click on Jefrahams'
Homepage it says "invited readers only".
Just wonderin'.
Men strive to make this society a male-dominated one, yet Hill is criticized for having a sense of entitlement.
Hilarious.
Can anybody make up to me why the fuck Bush told us 48h ago that the economy is on a solid foundation?
He's drunk again?
May an old witch make one request? Could we lay off the Hillary bashing for one night? Let's let Edwards and Obama and the other Dems have a night off as well. We've been over and over the same ground and it's fucking boring.
Hmmmm. Attempted seduction. I don't think you can be sued for that.
Snow, Liberal | 01.05.08 - 4:16 pm | #
Fucking lawyers! Man wants to have a friendly conversation with an employee about middle eastern foods and also personal cleanliness and his employers end up having to pay a lot in a confidential settlement.
Men strive to make this society a male-dominated one, yet Hill is criticized for having a sense of entitlement.
Hilarious.
pie
Come sit by me, pie!
ccokzblog
Brutal selloff on Wall Street: Dow looses 256,94 and drops to 12,800,18 loosing 1,96%
Can anybody make up to me why the fuck Bush told us 48h ago that the economy is on a solid foundation? I think Bush should join Britney Spears in psychiatry.
Can anybody make up to me why the fuck Bush told us 48h ago that the economy is on a solid foundation?
The foundationals are strong. That's what the government said right through the 1929 stock market crash, according to Galbraith's book.
Can anyone else here, please, explain to me why when I click on Jefrahams'
Homepage it says "invited readers only".
He doesn't like you?
/ducks and runs again
Hecate's right.
Let's just bash Bush, Cheney, etc.
May an old witch make one request? Could we lay off the Hillary bashing for one night? Let's let Edwards and Obama and the other Dems have a night off as well. We've been over and over the same ground and it's fucking boring.
Hecate,
I think you have a mighty fine idea there.
Bill Clinton *fans* showing the love.
Why that pervert was ever president is a sad mystery of life.
pie
Fixed your typo.
No lesbian gang has ever raped me.
Probably because I'd convert every one of 'em. They scared of my smoov and swav wayz.
jac
my crew isn't likely to oblige you, but i know some single gay guys who like it rough. you can show your smoovness to them.
The foundationals are strong. That's what the government said right through the 1929 stock market crash, according to Galbraith's book.
Echidne | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 4:24 pm | #
I wonder what happened to my copy of "Tenured Professor" by Galbraith. It was perfect.
Whenever we hear about the long and not that slow nosedive
the economy is taking, we think of that truly anti-social Enron jerkoff. How often is that word anti-social used to mean "reasonable"! This guy was literally against human society itself. He overheard someone griping about inflated energy costs and the Enron guy -- the guy inflating them -- walked up to the complaining party and barked, "Move." This is their answer. If you don't like what we're doing, keep out of our way, but don't expect us to abide by the law or any kind of ethics.
“I think Wyoming’s very important because this is where real America is,” she said. “I don’t think real America is Iowa. I don’t mean that in a mean way, but this is where the real people are, in the Western states.”
And when her husband loses there, the real people will live in South Carolina, Florida, etc.
The main problem with conforming is that people are accepting a false version of oneself.
Falafel!
We've been over and over the same ground and it's fucking boring.
Hecate,
There's certainly no persuasion going on.
May an old witch make one request? Could we lay off the Hillary bashing for one night? Let's let Edwards and Obama and the other Dems have a night off as well. We've been over and over the same ground and it's fucking boring.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 4:24 pm | #
when we have a democratic nominee, whoever they are will look a lot better to us than whomever the repubs nominiate
in the meantime, democrats attacking democrats makes me really uncomfortable
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Fixed your typo.
You broke it, stupid.
O’Reilly grabbed Nicholson’s arm, said “move” and shoved him,
Only cos he doesn't want to say move on.
k&y,
That would be Jeff Skilling.
Hecate:
Try it. Go back to his last comment and click on HOMEPAGE and let me know.
Can anybody make up to me why the fuck Bush told us 48h ago that the economy is on a solid foundation?
He was saying this shit yesterday while the Dow had already dropped 200 FUCKING POINTS!
Compared to Junior, Britney's not only sane, she's the head of Mensa.
Maybe it's because I'm 59 myself and the bifocals script could use an update.
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Sparkle Plenty
I first read that as 68 too. Six foot eight is mighty tall, no wonder BillO felt intimidated.
O'Really is very lucky those pink-pistol-packing lesbian thug gangs he warns about didn't beat the crap out of his withered ass.
O'Reilly would pay as much as 10 grand a night for that.
in the meantime, democrats attacking democrats makes me really uncomfortable
There's also very little substance to it. Makes me wonder what some people are really up to.
mrs. ibrahim, new pics of skiing and babies, please
Of course Dickerson had to conclude with this:
The retinue that followed O'Reilly included men in suits, perhaps accountants under whose jackets rested tiny little cash registers ringing up the profits that come from O'Reilly's ability to stir just this kind of anger.
Motherfucker.
TPM : "Feel the Surge
We're starting to get a feel now for how the Democratic race is playing out in New Hampshire after Obama's big win Thursday night in Iowa.
A second New Hampshire poll taken after the Iowa caucus is just out. The American Research Group poll, taken yesterday and today, shows Obama up by 12 over Hillary. The other purely post-Iowa poll, from Rasmussen, shows Obama up 10."
Fixed your typo.
You broke it, stupid.
pie
THAT's one is pretty fucking pathetic even as far as trools go.
Try it. Go back to his last comment and click on HOMEPAGE and let me know.
aangus
Yep, me too. OK, who's got the secret password?
We're cruel to be kind!
There's certainly no persuasion going on.
None at all.
in the meantime, democrats attacking democrats makes me really uncomfortable
pie
I don't like us doing the wingtards' job for them.
Yep, me too. OK, who's got the secret password?
melior | 01.05.08 - 4:28 pm | #
bosco.
my crew isn't likely to oblige you, but i know some single gay guys who like it rough. you can show your smoovness to them.
chicago dyke
That's very generous, but I adhere to a strict one-penis rule.
Mine.
Yep, me too. OK, who's got the secret password?
melior
HAH!!! Vindication!
*smug look!*
OK, who's got the secret password?
melior
Swordfish!
That's very generous, but I adhere to a strict one-penis rule.
Mine.
Here's what my cat Topaz thinks of Falafel Boy: - Buckeye
Sure that wasn't, "Shut up already with the Hilary bash!"?
At Slate, why Superman wants us all to die.
A CBS recently asked the following.
"Do you think it is appropriate for religious leaders to urge people to vote for or against a political candidate, or is that not appropriate?"
77% of Democrats replied "Not Appropriate," as did 71% of Independents.
Only 58% of Republicans thought that way, down from 63% in 2004.
I'm tired of the Hillary bashing, the Oboma basing and the Edwards bashing. They've all got flaws and there's shit about them I don't like, but I'll vote for any of them in November if they get the nomination.
The alternative to any of them? It's either swimming to Europe or putting a bullet in my brain. Lets move on.
There's also very little substance to it. Makes me wonder what some people are really up to.
pie | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 4:28 pm | #
I wasn't looking for a rehash of last night's thread. I simply disagreed with the position that people dislike Hillary because of Bill. Didn't want to make more of it than that. But feel free to stamp your feet.
That's very generous, but I adhere to a strict one-penis rule.
don't be surprised if someone tells you to go fuck yourself.
- couldn't resist
I've been having lotso fun listening to the local wingnut radio callers froth and spazz about Chucklebee.
Good times.
echidne
I have to get those photos up, they are both decked out in Saturnalia regalia, but the shots of the babies taking the double black diamond slopes, full bore, didn't really come out too well, surprisingly.
i'm down for a truce. hillary is a tough, smart person and i think i'd like her in person. obama is very clean, and shiny. edwards should be lauded for his change of heart and ability to apologize. gavel gets a nod for staying on the ballot here in MI. DK is a great guy for letting Ntodd go without pants.
What Thor said. I actually like them all enough to not want to bash them. Let the winner emerge, and we'll get behind him/her fully.
don't be surprised if someone tells you to go fuck yourself.
dirk gently
If?
pink pistol-packing lesbians matching action figure set available now from mattel!
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the local wingnut radio callers froth and spazz about Chucklebee.
What's got them upset? He sounds like what they've wanted all along!
"The foundationals are strong. That's what the government said right through the 1929 stock market crash, according to Galbraith's book."
Right, because we're on the verge of a Great Depression. I see an apple cart coming down the street as I type this.
"This room was, until about five or six minutes ago, completely empty. This is a manufactured 'celebration.' It really felt more like a funeral as people started strolling in from upstairs where they had obviously been gathered. This is unlike anything that I've ever seen, a completely empty, dirge-like event."
-- NBC's Andrea Mitchell, on Sen. Hillary Clinton's speech after the Iowa caucuses.
That's classic.
Of course Dickerson had to conclude with this:
The retinue that followed O'Reilly included men in suits, perhaps lawyers under whose jackets rested tiny little cash registers ringing up the profits that come from O'Reilly's ability to find his dumb ass in any number of personal and/or sexual harassment suits.
Fixed it for ya, Dickie!
But feel free to stamp your feet.
I'm stamping my feet?
Oh, boy.
DK is a great guy for letting Ntodd go without pants.
To be fair, I heard that NTodd did have to get a tongue stud.
Elizabeth Edwards To Chris Matthews And Rest Of Media: Ahem -- John And I Are Still Here
One of the things I'd been wondering was whether John Edwards' slim victory over Hillary for second-place in Iowa would shift the media dynamic of the race and get people to cover it as more of a three-way contest. In general terms, it's already obvious that the answer is No.
On this score, I'd really be remiss if I didn't share with you these wonderful quotes from Elizabeth Edwards on Hardball, where she chastised Chris Matthews and the rest of the political media for slighting her man.
First, Elizabeth was asked whether John would be able to survive if Barack Obama won both Iowa and New Hampshire. She observed that John had come in second in Iowa in 2004, that he had gotten short-shrifted in coverage then, and that this was happening again.
If you compare the Democratic candidates to the Republican candidates as groups, there is no reason at all to criticize any of the Democrats. It's a much more competent group, even if we totally ignore the messages.
I am impressed that Jimmy Cagney films are running all week on Turner Classic Movies...in the middle of the writers' strike. I've caught a couple great ones.
The timing is curious, since Jimmy was a huge union man, helped found the Screen Actors Guild, and was blacklisted by old man Warner as a CommiePinkoFascist.
Maybe Turner hates Warner?
To be fair, I heard that NTodd did have to get a tongue stud.
that was my nickname in high school.
(who used to say that all the time?)
Kennedy, Clinton, Trudeau: Why do they only want to kill the sexy leaders?
Kit Seelye, Anne Kornbluth and Mrs. Greenspan need to be entombed until 5 November.
I don't want to hear another fucking word from any of them.
Mrs. Alan Greenspan is certainly familiar with funereal
"(hey baby) I've got this here loofer that I've been polishin' mah tool and buttcrack with". "I know That must turn you on. That's why I'm here to take up your slack in excitement overload". "Come to Bill my princess dom".
The Bill O'Reilly
the local wingnut radio callers froth and spazz about Chucklebee.
What's got them upset? He sounds like what they've wanted all along!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 4:32 pm | #
huckabee missed the memo and supports the wrong jesus
.
I so so so wanna see Huckabee be the Unholy Beast That Devoured the GOP During the Night of Long Knives.
then I want to rewing it and watch it again, and again, and again.
yeeeeeehaaaaa!
That's very generous, but I adhere to a strict one-penis rule.
so i guess you're not really interested in the lesbian gang raping after all. we have strap ons. big ones.
so i guess you're not really interested in the lesbian gang raping after all. we have strap ons. big ones.
Anybody hear from Gummo lately?
Well, he knows wine, so I think he can probably identify "low class".
"OK, who's got the secret password?
melior"
zoot!!!
big ones.
Yeah, sure. That's what they all say.
if it's huckabee vs. hillary -
who's the tough one then?
huckabee is so soft edged he's more like a 'mommy' candidate
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A lot of pundbots are making a big deal out of th efact that Edwards got a lower percentage of the vote in Iowa than he did last time. With the actual number of the Democratic vote doubled, Edwards got, I think, about 75% more votes than in '04
Football drinking game: one shot of tequila every time an announcer mentions Sean Taylor.
Oh!
The blog!
Yeah... I've turned it off for now, 'cause I'm thinking about deleting all my world-class taunting of Katherine Coble, rather than leave it up.
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Kennedy, Clinton, Trudeau: Why do they only want to kill the sexy leaders?
k&y,pr."clitzilla" |
because "they" are not sexy?
clitzilla, heh.
More Americans have a "favorable impression" of the IRS than they do of Congress.
so i guess you're not really interested in the lesbian gang raping after all. we have strap ons. big ones.
chicago dyke
"Detachable Penis" is an oxymoron. But we can negotiate.
The Kenosha Kid:
You fiend!
always told that the people of new hampshire had an independent streak
and would not be influenced by msm or results from iowa. seems the folks of new hampshire are lining up just as wall street would like.
tht was rumor NTodd's tongue post ended up just being a sprinkle from his cone at the tastee freeze
Why do these lesbians keep forcing me to suck their cocks?
Yeah, sure. That's what they all say.
aangus
so i probably shouldn't talk to you about fisting, then.
CHRIS MATTHEWS: I don`t know how John Edwards wins this thing as long as those two are fighting for the nomination. They seem to get in the way. Doesn`t one of them have to get knocked out?
ELIZABETH EDWARDS: If knocking -- if John`s finishing second isn`t enough to get him in the conversation with you guys, yes, we have to knock one of those two off in order to get him into the conversation.
{{{{ mwah }}}}
Love that woman.
Did I win Wyoming?
Can we bash David Gregory. He was a Russert round table this morning sporting patent leather Prada snow boot for sloshing around NH and saying Elizabeth overshadows John Edwards in public, often making points as if she's correcting him. He had this noxious "I'm so clever" look on his face as he said it.
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Andrea Mitchell squeezed out this imitation of a documentary that we would up watching in a political science class. The entire god-damned thing is represented fully and fairly by showing Mitchell, seated across from some Democrat, saying, "You have no balls! No balls at all! Prove to me right now that you have balls!" There's a lot of truth to that, but then in the ten seconds or so that she mentioned the existence of another major American political party, it was only to note that many unpolled people feel in their hearts that this other party has balls which Democrats do not. Honestly, is there anyone who doubts that she is a moron who got her job by being related to someone?
Wouldn't it be something if Jamie Moyer fell off that fucking thing?
Right, because we're on the verge of a Great Depression. I see an apple cart coming down the street as I type this.
Econ 102
Be sure to hang that quote on the wall, so you can laugh at how stupid you sound in 6 months when the Bush recession is in full throated spiral.
Found those WMDs yet?
Jeffraham:
Football drinking game: one shot of tequila every time an announcer mentions Sean Taylor.
The Kenosha Kid
Whoa. Not on your life.
NH like wall street
At least Bush tricked for Obama. Still thinkin about what I think fof Obama thus
Edwards is just flailing
and Hillary loves war
and Obama's mushy hippie lines
are really quite a bore
Kucinich is a weirdo
Dodd's hair is oddly white
Biden is too deadly dull
and Richardson's a fright
But one thing you can say
for every single one
at least they're not
lizard spawned
evil
republicans!
New Hampshire is actually where that dood that started the morman religion started out ... before he went on to cover the midwest and his followers ended up in Utah killing a bunch of innocent people for revenge for his killing in Illinois
Found those WMDs yet?
melior | 01.05.08 - 4:40 pm | #
Chidyke and her friends stole 'em.
.Compared to Junior, Britney's not only sane, she's the head of Mensa.
Supreme Commander Thor
Gawd. I happened to be subjected to ET or some other such trash news show for a few minutes last night, and Britney's latest breakdown was the subject. The leering, fetishistic, self-righteous glee with which her problems were trotted out and discussed by all those pathetic pseudo-journalists was among the most sickening things I have ever seen on TV. I was deeply disgusted.
Off to watch sport, you bats.
A reminder, Howard Dean made an amazing speech at NH this past Friday.
Cspan has it.
Great, great words and vision.
the local wingnut radio callers froth and spazz about Chucklebee.
What's got them upset? He sounds like what they've wanted all along!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
They never heard the expression "Be careful what you wish for....."
New Hampshire is unique in that they have alot of out of state white women go missin' there
The retinue that followed O'Reilly included men in suits, perhaps accountants under whose jackets rested tiny little cash registers ringing up the profits that come from O'Reilly's ability to stir just this kind of anger.
This is what pisses them off. The Money. And folks on the AM dial love to rub it it.
"We don't have to follow any rules of good taste or accuracy. We just have to preach to the choir, feed them red meat and also allows the liberals tuned in to have a nice righteous anger at us which is like caffeine to them."
Some of them WISH they could be fact free and say crazy stuff because it looks like it pays well and is easy.
fuck you hell-o-SCUM!!!
Take two:
Jeffraham: But, but, but, how will Iget my LE fix???
*runs sobbing from the room!*
In 1960, rail had 51% of the passenger-miles of air in the US. It now has 1%.
The leering, fetishistic, self-righteous glee with which her problems were trotted out and discussed by all those pathetic pseudo-journalists was among the most sickening things I have ever seen on TV. I was deeply disgusted.
blerb
They built her up and now they are enjoying her fall.
California voting begins Tuesday
I was going to vote for Edwards but now I am going to vote for Senator Clinton. I am voting for her because I want a woman to be elected.
I think it will make a big difference in perspective and process.
I believe the Mormons got started in upstate NYS
seems the folks of new hampshire are lining up just as wall street would like.
hilldick | 01.05.08 - 4:38 pm | #
They always do.
so .. yeah I guess in a way you could say that they have a particular "independent streak" but mostly in their unner wares
aangus: Jeffraham: But, but, but, how will Iget my LE fix???
I'll probably open it back up, tonight.
.
the local wingnut radio callers froth and spazz about Chucklebee.
What's got them upset? He sounds like what they've wanted all along!
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Suburban wingnuts want Trailer Taliban to just vote right and use the tradesman's entrance.
I'll probably open it back up, tonight.
Scroll on by,
Scroll on by ...
"Be sure to hang that quote on the wall, so you can laugh at how stupid you sound in 6 months when the Bush recession is in full throated spiral."
Having experienced the recession during the elder President Bush's term, I am not very worried.
So, do you think we're headed for another "great depression," as many like to claim here?
New Hampshire is actually where that dood that started the morman religion started out
New York, I believe.
is it me, or does Econ 101 sound like an automated spamnbot which uses random tidbits from the CIA FactBook to sound witty and urbane?
.California voting begins Tuesday
What, you mean absentee? I thought our primary was on Feb. 5th.
Which shall I make and not eat? Chicken Kiev or stuffed cabbage?
I believe the Mormons got started in upstate NYS
qlª Back Home
Near Rochester, where Jesus dropped by on his trip to America.
ELIZABETH EDWARDS: If knocking -- if John`s finishing second isn`t enough to get him in the conversation with you guys, yes, we have to knock one of those two off in order to get him into the conversation.
Can she knock off Tweety while she's at it?
I think you are right in a sense ql ... the guy that started the religion wasn't sucessful at it local so he started to take it on the road
"seems the folks of new hampshire are lining up just as wall street would like."
hilldick |
They are so well drilled, it is almost communist in nature they way they get in line..
The difference between the Great Depression and what is about to happen to us is that the Great Depression was worldwide and temporary. What will happen to us in the coming years will affect mostly us and will be permanent.
Mrs. aangus is allergic, so, we can't have cats.
I live through those who do.
is it me, or does Econ 101 sound like an automated spamnbot which uses random tidbits from the CIA FactBook to sound witty and urbane?
It jerks off to census pdfs.
Quite sad, really.
(Elizabeth) Edwards/(Michelle) Obama '08
Smith was born in Vermont, then moved across to upstate NY.
"when the mountains turn blue your beer is cold?"
American technological know how at its finest.
Did anyone see the 20/20 segment that Brian Ross did on Oppo research?
Suburban wingnuts want Trailer Taliban to just vote right and use the tradesman's entrance.
rootless-e
Sad thing for the Trailer Taliban is that they will never figure that out.
.Which shall I make and not eat? Chicken Kiev or stuffed cabbage?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian
Personally, I prefer not to eat chicken Kiev.
The Japanese have developed a chocolate strawberry.
"I can haz Pacific back?"
Heh - GWPDA owes me a beverage. Red wine or sparkly wine would be nice.
"Detachable Penis" is an oxymoron.
"snap-on tools"
So, do you think we're headed for another "great depression," as many like to claim here?
Econ 102
Admit it, you've never actually read an economics book, have you?
I believe the Mormons got started in upstate NYS
qlª Back Home
Near Rochester, where Jesus dropped by on his trip to America.
Cookie Fleck `08
Elmira, wasn't it?
What will happen to us in the coming years will affect mostly us and will be permanent.
blerb | 01.05.08 - 4:47 pm
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Great. I'm so glad I've been making friends in Canada. I wonder who else will take me?
So, do you think we're headed for another "great depression," as many like to claim here?
Econ 102
If we are and we do I can't say I don't believe it is by design like the PNAC play book outlines
(Elizabeth) Edwards/(Michelle) Obama '08
Cookie Fleck `08
In a heartbeat.
And I like Bill better than Hillary, too.
Sad thing for the Trailer Taliban is that they will never figure that out.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 4:48 pm | #
I dunno about that. Huckster's candidacy is a rebellion of sorts.
The New Hampshire Union Leader is still publishing but Nacky Loeb, the notorious horror right wing owner of it is gone, Praise DOG! Unfortunately the people have been so polluted they have no sense left.
"snap-on tools"
dirk gently
It's the "snap-off" part that bothers me.
Rail passenger-miles in the US dropped 77% between 1960 and 1975. Air increased 341% during that period, and highway increased 89%.
Near Rochester, where Jesus dropped by on his trip to America.
Cookie Fleck `08 | 01.05.08 - 4:46 pm | #
palmyra. i've been to the mountain for the re-enactment. it is marvelously awful.
New Hampshire is actually where that dood that started the morman religion started out
Upstate New York was where the Angel Maroni showed up with the plates. Maybe his family migrated there from NH.
He and his followers migrated to Kirtland here in Ohio. Moved on when some banking scandals broke around them.
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I believe the Mormons got started in upstate NYS
qlª Back Home
Near Rochester, where Jesus dropped by on his trip to America.
Cookie Fleck `08
Elmira, wasn't it?
Jim
Giddy-uppa-oom-papa-oom-papa-mow-mow!
My heart's on fire for Elmira!
Bhutto bears responsibility for her death, Musharraf says
http://www.yahoo.com/s/776172
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf conceded that a gunman may have shot Benazir Bhutto but said the opposition leader exposed herself to danger and bore responsibility for her death, CBS News said on Saturday.
Musharraf was also quoted as telling the CBS "60 Minutes" program to be broadcast on Sunday that his government did everything it could to provide security for Bhutto, who was killed last week in a gun and suicide-bomb attack after a political rally.
"For standing up outside the car, I think it was she to blame alone. Nobody else. Responsibility is hers," Musharraf said in the interview taped on Saturday morning.
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Sure, pal, sure.
If Romney is the one, it is going to be a very bad year for the Mormons.
No one ever made the US exempt from application of "The Shock Doctrine."
don't worry jac. most strap ons are big enough they won't get lost.
(Elizabeth) Edwards/(Michelle) Obama '08
Cookie Fleck `08 | 01.05.08 - 4:47 pm | #
hell yeah!
"Admit it, you've never actually read an economics book, have you?"
Brilliant comment. Right up there with that WMD query.
Giddy-uppa-oom-papa-oom-papa-mow-mow!
My heart's on fire for Elmira!
The Oak Ridge Boys |
See, I thought of that, but didn't choose to escalate.....
I understand that Angel Maroni Macaroni is a staple in the Romney household.
I don't buy that Hucksterbee cares so much about the poor, either.
It's just more of the "Compassionate Conservative" bullshit that Chimpy laid on everyone in 2000.
We've all seen how that worked out.
hearing the cries of change, reports are that the clinton campaign is bringing on dick morris who will suggest broad welfare and affirmative action reforms
I understand that Angel Maroni Macaroni is a staple in the Romney household.
How is it related to Bony Maroni?
it's not reall a mountain. just a hill.
hill cumorah.
(insert inappropriate joke here)
The retinue that followed O'Reilly included men in suits, perhaps accountants under whose jackets rested tiny little cash registers ringing up the profits that come from O'Reilly's ability to stir just this kind of anger.
Long as you spell his name right....
I understand that Angel Maroni Macaroni is a staple in the Romney household.
spocko
You're confused.
It's the Angel Moroni.
His cousin is the Angel Hair Pasta.
Why don't Rethugs think anything can ever go wrong, especially when they try to drive the economy crazy? Why don't they think that as in everything else and as their claimed but ignored saint Hobbes says the natural state is crap unless you do something to ensure it will be defended against?
"snap-on tools"
dirk gently
It's the "snap-off" part that bothers me.
jac
"For standing up outside the car, I think it was she to blame alone. Nobody else. Responsibility is hers," Musharraf said in the interview taped on Saturday morning.
You are kidding me, right?
UNFRAKINGBELIEVABLE.
Huckabee is like an American AhmediNejad. There's a certain poetic justice there.
The Angel Moroni first appeared at Liberal Mountain.
Brilliant comment. Right up there with that WMD query.
Econ 102
I noticed you didn't answer either one.
We're laughing at you, not with you.
I don't buy that Hucksterbee cares so much about the poor, either.
It's just more of the "Compassionate Conservative" bullshit that Chimpy laid on everyone in 2000.
We've all seen how that worked out.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 4:51 pm | #
My take is that Huckster is a standard issue backwoods Jesus scam artist, But in the Republican playbook, those people are supposed to be happy with whatever they can steal back at home and to keep their fucking snouts out of the grownups trough.
accountants under whose jackets rested tiny little cash registers ringing up the profits that come from O'Reilly's ability to stir just this kind of anger.
They certainly aren't ringing from his book sales.
a golden plate full of angel hair pasta....
that's a religion I could follow. All we had was stale little wafers and donuts every third Sunday.
Did Dick Morris also bring in the Welfare Reforms of Big Dog's regime which made a lot more children hungrier and more desperate?
THAT is what Todd Collins does.
Doesn't look like much, but he almost always gets it done.
"For standing up outside the car, I think it was she to blame alone. Nobody else. Responsibility is hers," Musharraf said in the interview taped on Saturday morning.
fuck you, mushy. just fuck you.
I'm just really tickled the "falafel" moment lives on.
a golden plate full of angel hair pasta....
that's a religion I could follow. All we had was stale little wafers and donuts every third Sunday.
Jim
You should follow the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
"For standing up outside the car, I think it was she to blame alone. Nobody else. Responsibility is hers," Musharraf said in the interview taped on Saturday morning.
You are kidding me, right?
UNFRAKINGBELIEVABLE.
spocko
Well, the first story was she died because she ducked too fast. You expected it to get better?
Mrs. aangus is allergic, so, we can't have cats.
I live through those who do.
Then you might like Cats That Look Like Hitler
In the US, transit has 1% of the passenger-miles of personal vehicles.
Near Rochester, where Jesus dropped by on his trip to America.
Cookie Fleck `08
Elmira, wasn't it?
Jim, Collieresque | 01.05.08 - 4:48 pm | #
Mr. Christ, now retired and living contentedly in a condo in miami beach, says he never meant to start a new religion and is amused by all of the controversy he spawned. He emphasises that he is frustrated, however, by the fact that not many people actually read his book. "What's the good of having it in every house in american if nobody reads it? I might as well be paris hilton for all the attention that my writing gets. And who's that sad looking character on the cross, anyway?"
Mr. Christ says he is contemplating re-issuing his writings, but this time in picture book format so that there might be some possibility that somebody would listen to him.
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Hucklebee agrees that we should impose a federal carbon cap, but won't admit that anthropometric climate change is real.
No, it makes no sense, even the wingers can't stand it. Heads asplodin'.
a golden plate full of angel hair pasta....
that's a religion I could follow. All we had was stale little wafers and donuts every third Sunday.
Jim,
come into the light, brother! the FSM awaits your worship. have you not heard the Good Noodles?
Maybe the Huckabus is just making sure that if he loses the election he will be well known enough to be the next billionaire TeeBee evangelist.
from the hill cumorah pageant:
http://thumbsnap.com/v/t3zF4uCO.jpg
elmira is the home of mark twain. mormons don't go there.
FSM worship is the most destructive kind of heresy! You are all damned!
Mr. Christ Said to be Dating Britney Spears
I went to grad school in Rochester, NY. Don't remember any big Mormon presence around there, although there must be some (they're everywhere. Even in Innsbruck.)
Well, the first story was she died because she ducked too fast. You expected it to get better?
Rmj, New Angst 4 New Year
If it weren't such a tragedy and such a potential international calamity, the Pakistani government would be as funny as "Baghdad Bob" back in 2003.
come into the light, brother! the FSM awaits your worship. have you not heard the Good Noodles?
chicago dyke, daring to belitt
Parmagiana in the highest
Bhutto went to a country where everyone hated her, as the agent of monsters who expect total obedience, then disrespected the monsters by
attempting to talk to the people the monsters want exterminated, then tried to become a genuine populist leader out in public.
But it's all because she's a woman.
hahaha!
good noodles (lol)
good one
That 20/20 episode on oppo research really pissed me off.
They talked about how ABC got a tape from the RNC with Kerry from 20 years ago talking about giving up his metals or throwing them or some thing. They ran it, but didn't say it came from the RNC. And then Ross says that Kerry, correctly, called it for what it was, a RNC oppo trick. Well that is all well and good NOW 3 years later, but what are you doing NOW so that you don't do that sh*t again, ABC?
This special? Nice, but if you keep running leaks from the Republican's about Edward's hair you are still playing their game, how does it feel being lead around by your nose?
Oh and to BALANCE the story they said "the democrats do it too!"
fuck you, mushy. just fuck you.
chicago dyke, daring to belitt
he runs a country where anyone standing in the open deserves to be shot. and often is.
Did Dick Morris also bring in the Welfare Reforms of Big Dog's regime which made a lot more children hungrier and more desperate?
warondandruff | 01.05.08 - 4:53 pm | #
according to george stepho it was Hilary that insisted on morris joining the west wing during brother bill's first term
can anyone imagine what it will be like defending her for 4 years?
this blog might as well talk about biofuels full time
here's your coke, jac.
marcellina, thank you so much for that HitlerCat link. lol.
"For standing up outside the car, I think it was she to blame alone. Nobody else. Responsibility is hers," Musharraf said in the interview taped on Saturday morning.
Feel the love.
pig.
This is how Dickerson concluded his piece:
I have a confession. During the shoving, I found myself yelling at O'Reilly to grow up, which was thoroughly unprofessional, except that I have little kids and I think it's important to discipline misbehavior immediately. If I don't dare to discipline, they'll grow up to be like, well, Bill O'Reilly.
Mr. Christ Said to be Dating Britney Spears
The Kenosha Kid
I can see Brit as Mary Magdalene. Definitely.
"For standing up outside the car, I think it was she to blame alone. Nobody else. Responsibility is hers," Musharraf said in the interview taped on Saturday morning.
fuck you, mushy. just fuck you.
chidyke speaks for me.
I can't watch 20/20 due to my John Stossel allergy.
"I noticed you didn't answer either one."
How is your therapy for pederasty going?
Oh, wait.... wrong Christ.
I don't buy that Hucksterbee cares so much about the poor, either.
I'm not ready to assume that yet. The televangelists here in Ohio are so material -- money socked away, Rolex watches, diamond cufflinks and other glitz.
The Huckabees seem pretty unassuming. And he did approve student grants and loans to undocumented immigrants. And the arts and music curricula advocacy seems to me to show a genuine concern for promoting creativity for kids in public schools. Personally, I'm a big believer in that . . .
.
You do have to wonder just how lower O’Reilly will have to sink to get the attention he obviously so craves.
He is getting increasingly desperate in his publicity stunts. I just hope it does not end in someone getting seriously hurt.
If I don't dare to discipline, they'll grow up to be like, well, Bill O'Reilly.
I was just thrilled to hear that Bill was sporting all of that FOX swag that he gets.
I mean, a FOX letterman's jacket? How....uncool.
I went to grad school in Rochester, NY. Don't remember any big Mormon presence around there
palmyra is about a half hour from rochester. wayne county, iirc. but they tend not to go to "the big city"
I liked Econ better when he was groveling.
I don't think Mrs. Clinton wanted the Welfare Reform of the nineties. One of her best friends was head of the Children's Defense Fund (name slips me) and there was a lot of bad feeling. It wasn't her style at all.
Bhutto went to a country where everyone hated her, as the agent of monsters who expect total obedience, then disrespected the monsters by
attempting to talk to the people the monsters want exterminated, then tried to become a genuine populist leader out in public.
But it's all because she's a woman.
kei & yuri
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as logic would have it, after the monsters slay slew smite and schmitt the exterminated, whose the customers?
I guess they don't think that far ahead
Teflon Econ.
Amazing.
Perhaps responding to whispers that he's too old to run for the White House, John McCain finds someone to make him look young and spry and cheerful
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...090/1016/
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aangus: Your L.E. archive awaits!
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Redskins don't look too good.
I liked Econ better when he was groveling.
pie
I assume that's a rhetorical flourish on your part.
The Huckabees seem pretty unassuming.
Oh, you mean with the registry deal?
When they left office, they signed up with a registry so all their friends knew what goodies they wanted?
[Pervez Musharraf] runs a country where anyone standing in the open deserves to be shot. and often is.
This is a very good point. Musharraf himself is under standing death threats from most of the various factions in his "country" (that is to say, the Aghani-Pakistani region of lawlessness which abuts his green zone) and in the last few months hid indoors from various riots. But Bhutto shows up and the first thing she wants to do is stick her head out a window. Musharraf was probably only too happy to oblige her.
k&y, some of us know who bhutto really was, and about her family. and we're still upset she got killed. murder is wrong. that's not too hard to understand.
i don't even wish death on bush. a long, hard slog in jail breaking rocks by day and forced to hear to the wailing of the families of the iraqi dead by night on videopaper that coats all the walls of his cell, for the rest of his life, yes.
but good progressives always are sad at the death of anyone, when assassination is the method.
I don't think Mrs. Clinton wanted the Welfare Reform of the nineties. One of her best friends was head of the Children's Defense Fund (name slips me) and there was a lot of bad feeling. It wasn't her style at all.
warondandruff
Marian Wright Edelman.
How is your therapy for pederasty going?
Econ 102
I asked your priest about that, he just laughed and laughed.
I liked Econ better when he was groveling.
pie
i liked him better when he was someone else namestealing him.
but not that much better.
Jim, Collieresque:
I just lost all respect for Wilford Brimley.
Marian Wright Edelman.
jac | 01.05.08 - 5:03 pm | #
It was Peter Edelman who resigned to protest "welfare reform".
Redskins caught a break!
SMOOOOOOOOOOOOT !!!!!
Jim, Collieresque | 01.05.08 - 5:01 pm
HA!
Didn't the Edelmans pretty much stop speaking to Bill Clinton over welfare deform?
palmyra is about a half hour from rochester. wayne county, iirc. but they tend not to go to "the big city"
dirk
Don't Mormons from all over converge there once a year.
Redskins caught a break!
The Kenosha Kid
Or not.
This is a very good point.
i was being sarcastic.
The Huckabees seem pretty unassuming
Sweet Mother of the Gods.
James Fallows:
There had always been away to explain away this paradox. Perhaps Hillary Clinton '08 would be a version of Richard Nixon '68 -- beloved by few, but still grinding out a win. But the other possibility was that the tensions couldn't forever be contained -- if people don't really like a candidate, in the end the candidate won't win. The Nixon scenario isn't looking so likely now.
This is why talking about Iowa is so pointless.
I have vague memories of election years past, when the frontrunner was "decided" by Iowa or New Hampshire, only to have someone else entirely occupy the White House the following January.
This kind of "insight" is generated by people who need to have something to say. Bad enough it gets said in newspaper columns; but now blogs have meant every pundit has to publish every thought.
I'll retire to Bedlam...
In 1989 in the US, 76.3% of workers commuted by driving alone. In 2005, 79.3% did.
SMOOOOOOOOOOOOT !!!!!
I liked him better when he was "love boating" it up here in MN.
Wait....that's not right.
Bill O'Reilly plays Squeaky Fromme in the latest play sensation to hit broadstreet
I Always Knew You Really Didn't Like Me
coming soon to a theater near you
The Huckabees seem pretty unassuming
Are we including the one who carries Glocks onto airplanes?
I assume that's a rhetorical flourish on your part.
No, he was apologizing profusely the other day for his insensitive remarks about Hecate's friend.
He seemed...
almost human.
January's birthstone, the garnet, is thought to keep the wearer safe during travel.
The Huckabees seem pretty unassuming
"Let be be finale of seem."
Finally, some use for a Wallace Stevens poem!
Yes yes death is wrong, the thing is we have prioritized worrying about the deaths of super-wealthy billionaire parasites from the poison ivy league
until we get done mourning the nameless Arab girls getting raped and killed in the name of "Democracy." We appreciate your concern and will get around to mourning Bhutto in due time, because we expect the party favors at her funeral to rock. Will Joan Rivers be there?
i don't even wish death on bush. a long, hard slog in jail breaking rocks by day and forced to hear to the wailing of the families of the iraqi dead by night on videopaper that coats all the walls of his cell, for the rest of his life, yes.
chicago dyke, daring to belitt
I would like to see him destitute living under a bridge someplace.
And crossing the street while his then-EX wife Laura is driving a Hummer.
he was apologizing profusely the other day for his insensitive remarks about Hecate's friend.
He seemed...
almost human.
pie
Sucker.
I think South Carolina is gonna be the most interesting primary
Don't Mormons from all over converge there once a year.
qlª Back Home | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 5:04 pm | #
yeah, they have a big pageant re-enacting the angel moron(i) coming to visit joseph smith. it's quite the production. tickets are free, and so is parking.
that's what the thumbsnap i posted above was from.
I liked Econ better when he was groveling.
Two times zero is still zero.
Don't Mormons from all over converge there once a year.
Why, for an historical re-enactment of the Finding Of The License Plates In That Cave?
i wonder if the fundies who voted for huckabee get the 'compassion' part of his positions, as in public school for the children of illegal aliens
or do they just think he will outlaw evolution?
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I don't grovel. I am capable of remorse and making apologies, however.
Fuck Seattle. Too many shots with mothing to show. Step aside. Boring boring boring.
I think South Carolina is gonna be the most interesting primary
Jim
Jim Johnson is RIGHT!
This is why talking about Iowa is so pointless.
well, i did do a post on exactly that. not that anyone noticed.
And crossing the street while his then-EX wife Laura is driving a Hummer.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 5:06 pm | #
As she accelerates to avoid Guiliani with his squeegee and bucket by the roadside.
The Huckabees seem pretty unassuming
Are we including the one who carries Glocks onto airplanes?
SteveLG
And tortures dogs?
Nice run.
he was apologizing profusely the other day for his insensitive remarks about Hecate's friend.
You know, it's a good thing that I missed that entire incident.
"I asked your priest..."
Right, I didn't think the quality of your comments would improve.
[killfile]
And crossing the street while his then-EX wife Laura is driving a Hummer.
Terry C - Edwards 2008
As she accelerates to avoid Guiliani with his squeegee and bucket by the roadside.
rootless-e
Even better!
Redskins caught a break!
The Kenosha Kid
Or not.
Very not.
i don't even wish death on bush. a long, hard slog in jail breaking rocks by day and forced to hear to the wailing of the families of the iraqi dead by night on videopaper that coats all the walls of his cell, for the rest of his life, yes.
chicago dyke, daring to belitt
this is my thought on it:
one day
the bush administration's accumulated actions
will unleash a karma tsunami
so powerful
that it will wash Rush Limbaugh into a 19th century sweatshop
and blow the bullets right out of the body of Martin Luther King
The Huckabees seem pretty unassuming
More so now that he's lost 100 lbs.
...and hideous cleats.
historical re-enactment of the Finding Of The License Plates In That Cave?
Marcellina
"You want to tempt the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing?"
I am capable of remorse and making apologies, however.
So is yo' mama.
I loves me some Internet!
Just got Silver Hawk, starring the amazingly hot, 40 something Michelle Yeoh. This will hold me over until I can afford the DVD next month.
Oh, and GO JOHN EDWARDS!
and
FOAD Bill Orally!
warondandruff | 01.05.08 - 5:01 pm | #
I would suggest that you read george stepho's book ALL TOO HUMAN
actually you could just read from the parts from about 1994 through 1997 to get the gist of who we are dealing with
if obama (that dirty liberal progressive moonbat) wins, then finally we can put to rest the misplaced progressive love for the clintons
One of her best friends was head of the Children's Defense Fund (name slips me)
Marian Wright Edelman. Bush ripped off the Fund's slogan "Leave No Child Behind" for his "education initiative".
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I don't grovel. I am capable of remorse and making apologies, however.
Econ 102
I can attest that this happened at least twice, for what it's worth.
george stepho's
Judas Maximus.
You know, it's a good thing that I missed that entire incident.
Hecate
No it's not.
Newts can't type.
I'm not an Old Testament, eye for an eye guy. But I do believe in the rule of law. Could we ever hope to nail Bush or Cheney, Rove, Condi, Rummy, on breaking any laws?
Of all the things that they did which one has the greatest chance of actually being something that they could be prosecuted for?
" Econ 103"
Nice gravatar.
well, i did do a post on exactly that. not that anyone noticed.
Just want to say that I have really loved your posts, especially lately.
You rock, sister.
Romney wins Wyoming GOP caucuses, CNN projects
They loves them some Mittster in Wyoming.
They loves them some Mittster in Wyoming.
They also love their "Rocky Mountain Oysters".
Your point?
I've got some nice red here for u, ql. Was not using it for the stuffed cabbage.
So where will the 150000 men returning from Iraq work, Mr.Obama? Mc Donalds?
Of all the things that they did which one has the greatest chance of actually being something that they could be prosecuted for?
Cheney: the Energy Task Force
Bush: Iraq and torture.
I do believe they will be brought to justice, likely at the Hague. I want them to live long, long lives and get the best legal defense available. And then I want to watch the video of them being convicted over and over and over and . . . .
They loves them some Mittster in Wyoming.
Cheney has brought such glory to the state.
Why did George Stepho steal from Nietzsche for the title of his book? His he trying to be hip? Obnoxious and irritating. Stephanopolous is at best the Frank Luntz of the left.
They also love their "Rocky Mountain Oysters".
Your point?
Zap Rowsdower
Touche.
They loves them some Mittster in Wyoming.
melior
"Just call me Mittster
in Wyoming,
Angel..."
kei & yuri | 01.05.08 - 5:06 pm | #
kids, you both know that argument isn't going to fly. we can all walk and chew gum at the same time, and mourn occupation and its crimes even as we mourn the loss of any chance at pakistan one day joining the family of democratic nations.
stop throwing up silly strawlike objects. if you can't understand why women like me are upset about even the death of an (admittedly corrupt) woman politician, you underestimate the degree of "feminism" i practice. killing women politicians is almost always bad for the cause of women in politics.
i'll make an exception for huge.
Oh, you mean with the registry deal?
When they left office, they signed up with a registry so all their friends knew what goodies they wanted?
Terry C - Edwards 2008
No, didn't here about that. I was thinking of her coat, actually. Surely, no one with a serious case of the gimmies would where that.
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But I do believe in the rule of law.
Belief that rule of law extends to everyone or it extends to no one = underlying foundation of Xymphora's school of conspiracy theory. This is an important element because in their official created reality they've never come close to ever doing anything wrong, let alone illegal or immoral.
"Romney wins Wyoming GOP caucuses, CNN projects"
excellent! go mitt!!!!
killing women politicians is almost always bad for the cause of women in politics.
Word.
So where will the 150000 men returning from Iraq work, Mr.Obama?
i don't think he intends to discharge them all from the military.
Paging watertiger
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/sl...5e632cb1b6b847/
killing women politicians is almost always bad for the cause of women in politics.
Word.
"You know, it's a good thing that I missed that entire incident."
Yes, God forbid you would be mature enough to accept a sincere apology for my making a non-malicious comment that simply wasn't mindful.
Celebrate yourself for that.
i'll make an exception for huge.
Her femaleness is only nominal anyway.
I was thinking of her coat, actually. Surely, no one with a serious case of the gimmies would where that.
Why, Pat's got a good Republican cloth coat . . . .
killing women politicians is almost always bad for the cause of women in politics.
Feminism should not be about helping wealthy women who are the agents of patriarchy at the expense of people. That's the opposite of our feminism.
killing women politicians is almost always bad for the cause of women in politics.
killing people is almost always bad for the cause of people
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i don't think he intends to discharge them all from the military.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 5:14 pm | #
Just ignored Jerry Bremer's carefully written memo.
Word.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
OMG you really are a witch! What flavor beverage, miss?
I sense "sheets" about to come.
killing human politicians is almost always bad for the cause of humans in politics.
but that's just me.
killing people is almost always bad for the cause of people
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Tacitus Voltaire | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 5:15 pm | #
I'm not sure I can sign up with that.
Yes, God forbid you would be mature enough to accept a sincere apology for my making a non-malicious comment that simply wasn't mindful.
OMG you really are a witch! What flavor beverage, miss?
GMTA! Could I have vodka-flavored vodka?
Paging watertiger
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/sl...5e632cb1b6b847/
P O'Neill
God, he is so repulsive.
Feminism should not be about helping wealthy women who are the agents of patriarchy at the expense of people. That's the opposite of our feminism.
kei & yuri | 01.05.08 - 5:15 pm | #
the opposite of feminism is ...
Econ 102, definitely an introductory course.
"I do believe they will be brought to justice, likely at the Hague."
Ha.
I do believe they will be brought to justice, likely at the Hague
That's something that worries me about Obama. His turning the page will involve allowing some people to get away with things that no one should be allowed to do. Bush and Cheney at the top of that list. I don't want to hear twenty years from now that David Addington would make a great Secretary of Defense. I want him in disgrace. Will Obama have the stomach for that?
what's yer pleasure, tacitus?
Judas Maximus.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 5:10 pm | #
or someone who is replaced by dicks morris and his triangulation strategy and who is forced to spend $100,000s in legal fees because Bill said he didn't have sexual relations with than woman miss lewinski
Tacitus Voltaire | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 5:08 pm
i don't believe in karma. or "divine justice." it almost never happens, or rather, there are so few times the evil get what they deserve i'm sure there is no god, power, etc. and if there is, it's an evil one.
thank you pie, that's very kind.
Which one of these guys is really Guiliani?
I think it's the one on the far right.
GMTA! Could I have vodka-flavored vodka?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Chopin, chilled, up.
I even got some of those blue cheese olives here.
RMJ: tried Stevens, on the advice of my betters; he never did much for me, despite the enthusiasm he generates in most poetry lovers I've known and respected...
I do believe they will be brought to justice, likely at the Hague. I want them to live long, long lives and get the best legal defense available. And then I want to watch the video of them being convicted over and over and over and . . . .
I don't see this happening, not that I wouldn't think it's the right thing to take them to court. But money is still the most powerful force in politics, and Bush already has his escape nest in Paraguay all ready.
I was thinking of her coat, actually. Surely, no one with a serious case of the gimmes would wear that.
Who says Repug women have good taste in clothing?
That's something that worries me about Obama. His turning the page will involve allowing some people to get away with things that no one should be allowed to do.
Senate Majority Leader Dodd will hold hearings.
"Will Obama have the stomach for that?"
no.
Which one of these guys is really Guiliani?
I think it's the one on the far right.
I see Thompson, McCain, Giuliani and who's the other one?
what's yer pleasure, tacitus?
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 5:18 pm | #
belgian beer made by members of the bush administration chained in a dank basement in lichtenstein?
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Syd B | 01.05.08 - 5:18 pm
WHATever!
clinton loving progressives are worst than bush loving conservatives but one would expect progressives to know better
One things Democrats have kind of learned is that giving an apology to a Republican is usually a bad idea, because much of the time they don't deserve one, and even when offered, they don't accept it or simply heap on more abuse.
or someone who is replaced by dicks morris and his triangulation strategy and who is forced to spend $100,000s in legal fees because Bill said he didn't have sexual relations with than woman miss lewinski
Syd B
Bill Clinton didn't ask Ken Starr to sniff panties
I don't see this happening, not that I wouldn't think it's the right thing to take them to court. But money is still the most powerful force in politics, and Bush already has his escape nest in Paraguay all ready.
Rendition, followed by incarceration. No habeas corpus.
It's only right.
Are we including the one who carries Glocks onto airplanes?
SteveLG
And tortures dogs?
Terry C - Edwards 2008
Well, I knew about the Glock but forgot. Tortures dogs? That I had not heard.
Disgusting. Really, all I was thinking about was the glitz that seems to accompany so much of the televangelist scene here in OHio. Huckabee strikes me as an off the rack guy with maybe some sense of proportion, so I'm not ready to conclude his concern for the poor isn't real.
I mean, here in Ohio any concern for the poor these guys express is for how fast they can get 'em to donate.
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I don't see this happening, not that I wouldn't think it's the right thing to take them to court. But money is still the most powerful force in politics, and Bush already has his escape nest in Paraguay all ready.
Nuke it from orbit.
It's the only way to be sure.
Starr's investigation, if I recall correctly, cost over $70 million...
belgian beer made by members of the bush administration chained in a dank basement in lichtenstein?
Lichtenstein is far too good for that crowd. They'd provide them with health care and human rights.
I see Thompson, McCain, Giuliani and who's the other one?
Marcellina
I think you're right.
And the fourth one's Ken Mehlman, oddly.
Bill Clinton didn't ask Ken Starr to sniff panties
Jim, Collieresque
Clinton haters don't want to hear that.
i don't believe in karma. or "divine justice." it almost never happens, or rather, there are so few times the evil get what they deserve i'm sure there is no god, power, etc. and if there is, it's an evil one.
chicago dyke, daring to belitt | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 5:18 pm | #
well, we cynical engineers tend to be more of the 'no good deed goes unpunished' sort...
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Lichtenstein is far too good for that crowd. They'd provide them with health care and human rights.
Marcellina
and i suspect their beer would be waterboardy.
Is "anyone is fair game" in the Bush republican political realm? I believe so.
Valeria Plame is a case in point. The the right-wing noise machine can run and push any kind of lies with impunity.
The only thing that I think would have an impact on these people if they ertr sued like the National Enquire was sued by a celebrity and the celebrity won.
The right wing media takes advantage of their lack of ethics and freedom from consequences from libel and slander.
It would be nice to have a massive libel/slander suit directed at some of the more profitable media outlets. "You want the gossip ratings, you have to pay the gossip price when you are wrong.".
i don't believe in karma. or "divine justice." it almost never happens, or rather, there are so few times the evil get what they deserve i'm sure there is no god, power, etc. and if there is, it's an evil one.
chicago dyke, daring to belitt
Sadly, I agree
Hillary asked a question last night. Who will go all the way to fight the republicans?
The answer is John Edwards. He's fought against corporatists all of his career and won most of the battles. He knows what he is up against and he knows he can get the job done.
Econ: you're right. An apology is a social act that furthers communication and mutual interaction, as well as the right thing to do if (unlike you and me) you occasionally make a mistake. I don't see any evidence that Republicans are interested in anything but power. There's a distinct asymmetry between them and Democrats there, I believe.
And then I want to watch the video of them being convicted over and over and over and . . . .
Hecate
GWPDA has the wine, I'll supply the banana nut bread. We'll have a partay!
Starr's investigation, if I recall correctly, cost over $70 million...
That money would have been better spent on hookers and blow.
"The answer is John Edwards. He's fought against corporatists all of his career and won most of the battles. He knows what he is up against and he knows he can get the job done."
He seems to have a bit of trouble taking on the media.
HBK: it wasn't?
Nuke it from orbit.
Extremely bad idea. Bush situated his Eagle's Nest over one of the most important sources of naturally occurring pure potable water in the world.
clinton loving progressives are worst than bush loving conservatives but one would expect progressives to know better
Syd B | 01.05.08 - 5:20 pm | #
why put so much energy into hating on her and expecting the worst?
when lincoln was running for president, the abolotionist leaders were excoriating lincoln for not being a 'real abolitionist', while others were criticising what was essentially a triangulating strategy between abolitionists and anti-abolitionists
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I do believe they will be brought to justice, likely at the Hague. I want them to live long, long lives and get the best legal defense available. And then I want to watch the video of them being convicted over and over and over and . . . .
I don't see how Cheney's energy task force shenanigans rise to the level of crimes against humanity.
Anything to do with Iraq and rendition and torture sure should tho.
But as I understand it the US has negotiated bilateral agreements with most of the members of the ICC that they've agreed to never attempt to prosecute US citizens at the Hague.
In return for US aid of course.
That means once we're totally broke and not providing any aid anymore, they can happily abrogate those agreemnts and prosecute away!!!
Clinton haters don't want to hear that.
Terry C - Edwards 2008 | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 5:23 pm | #
Bill did not behave honorably. Bush pardoned Libby for criminal behavior. Clinton let Susan McDougal sit in solitary because he was afraid of Republican reaction.
Read her book. It will make you boil.
That money would have been better spent on hookers and blow.
HoneyBearKelly
are you sure it wasn't?
Martin Luther King, Jr. said: l Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. I remind myself of that from time to time.
sigh. purity is such a great dessert topping.
here's a distinct asymmetry between them and Democrats there, I believe.
did you say asymmetry?
ProfWombat quien sabe?
Bill did not behave honorably. Bush pardoned Libby for criminal behavior. Clinton let Susan McDougal sit in solitary because he was afraid of Republican reaction.
Read her book. It will make you boil.
rootless-e
Bill wasn't perfect.
I don't see how Cheney's energy task force shenanigans rise to the level of crimes against humanity.
Cheney's mere existence is a crime against humanity.
starr investigation not withstanding - bill clinton is the one who asked his staff to stand by his bullshit story while they hired expensive lawyers to comply with depositions defending same...
i know bill clinton is the greatest because ... well, he beat them
its funny - the lefty blog sphere hates the DLC but few can talk honestly about their greatest success
this is where we meet the freepers and join hands for a staged photo
ProfWombat |
01.05.08 - 5:25 pm |
Rethugs pioneered our least favorite Americanism, the non-apology-apology, or "I'm sorry that you feel that way."
waterboarded beer for the professor.
when lincoln was running for president, the abolotionist leaders were excoriating lincoln for not being a 'real abolitionist', while others were criticising what was essentially a triangulating strategy between abolitionists and anti-abolitionists
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Tacitus Voltaire | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 5:26 pm | #
Absolutely true. But in power, Lincoln did not give in to the slavers blackmail.
I thought that the US didn't even sign on for the ICC.
The media IS corporate America, and they are fighting him by ignoring him or ridiculing him. We have to help get John's message (which is the message of the middle class) out in spite of the media.
Elizabeth handled herself pretty nicely on Tweety's show last night, I hear.
clinton loving progressives are worst than bush loving conservatives but one would expect progressives to know better
Syd B | 01.05.08 - 5:20 pm | #
and what would we have made of the actions of that great progressive president, teddy roosevelt, before he became president? would we have predicted that he would have railed against "malefactors of great wealth" and been the first to execute the anti-monopoly laws the way they were intended?
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Martin Luther King, Jr. said: l Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. I remind myself of that from time to time.
I remind myself of that, too. But then I also remind myself of Terry Pratchett:
"There is no justice. There is just us."
But the way I combine the two is by hoping that the justice can work through us.
sigh. purity is such a great dessert topping.
chicago dyke, daring to belitt |
and it's a floor wax
I'm sorry that you feel that way."
I thought that was one of my ex-boyfriends!
From ABC News:
Ten presidential candidates (six Republicans, four Democrats) will pull up swiveling chairs and take to the very same debate stage Saturday night in Manchester for two of those encounters on the presidential calendar that merit circling in bright red (and blue) magic marker.
ABC's Charles Gibson has a bit of a different format in mind for the evening than we've seen in previous encounters -- more genial than gotcha, like a very chatty (and very well-lit) kitchen table. But the candidates will surely provide the fireworks: In this excruciatingly brief window between Iowa and New Hampshire, subtly just doesn't work.
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starr investigation not withstanding -
uh huh.... and Joe Lieberman is a great Democrat except for the war.
Hillary giving a pretty good seminar on cspan.
So wtf was Bill suppose to do?
Not defend himself?
That he did not behave honorably is a given.
You're just talking shit now.
"(unlike you and me)"
"There's a distinct asymmetry between them and Democrats there, I believe."
Definitely. Republicans, as a rule but not 100% of the time, tend to play the pearl clutching game in the media, but they also have a mentality that looks at apologizing as a sign of weakness, therefore they are only satisfied with an apology as a sign of their sense of dominance yet actually disrespect the entity that apologized even more for their supposed weakness.
Democrats, by contrast, still tend to find value in civility and value the ability to accept apologies, even when they may dislike or disagree with the person who gave it.
But the way I combine the two is by hoping that the justice can work through us.
And, to paraphrase Margaret Meade, I think, that's the only way that it ever has.
Tacitus Voltaire | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 5:26 pm | #
whether an abolitionist president was elected or a no-more-slave-state- return-to-africa president was elected the result would have been the same
Well, I knew about the Glock but forgot. Tortures dogs? That I had not heard.
please visit corrente often (at homepage). lambert has been all over this.
I'd commend to your attention Judge Baltazar Garzon of Spain, who's been willing to use the law against people like Pinochet, Kissinger and others. A brave man who's trying to expand the rule of law, who one can only hope will have his emulators as well as more recogintion...
Garzón rose to international prominence on October 10th, 1998 for his issuance of an arrest warrant for former Chilean president Augusto Pinochet over the deaths and torture of Spanish citizens during Pinochet's regime, using the Chilean Truth Commission (1990-91) report as the basis for the warrant. He has repeatedly expressed a desire to investigate former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger in connection with a plot in the 1970s known as Operation Condor. [1]
...In March 2007 he published in the Spanish newspaper El País his plans to sue US president George W. Bush.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Bal...Baltazar_Garzon
cd, it's not being kind.
Anyway, I'm browning the chicken. I'll let you know.
I was here during the unmindful comment of econ 102 and I want to go on record and acknowledging that he did make a sincerely apology.
I noted it at the time. That specific act and comment was valid and appropriate and one of the reasons I didn't assign econ 102 to killfile.
When people the right thing I do like to commend them for it.
ChiDy, I think you're wrong about the karma thing. I've seen it happen often. It often takes a long time, but it happens, with a vengeance.
huck's dog killing son.
and even better: literally, and i do mean literally, the minute the results from iowa came out, we got massive hits on this story. heh.
whether an abolitionist president was elected or a no-more-slave-state- return-to-africa president was elected the result would have been the same
Syd B | 01.05.08 - 5:31 pm | #
how can you tell?
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"Elizabeth handled herself pretty nicely on Tweety's show last night, I hear."
I didn't see it, but it sure seems so. Good for her. He deserves some dressing down.
Oh!
I received my notice from the Davidson County Election Commission, warning me that I'm a possible victim of identity theft.
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I'm not an Old Testament, eye for an eye guy. But I do believe in the rule of law. Could we ever hope to nail Bush or Cheney, Rove, Condi, Rummy, on breaking any laws?
Of all the things that they did which one has the greatest chance of actually being something that they could be prosecuted for?
spocko
Nothing. Prosecution of political figures opens the Pandora's box of retribution (you know it would; recall the Clinton impeachment. That was a Sunday school party compared to a criminal trial).
High political office is virtually a grant of criminal immunity. Something Cheney has exploited to a degree hitherto unknown in the Republic. But he'll get away with it.
The price of prosecution is simply too high, the risk of politicizing the criminal justice system (which they've tried to do anyway) simply too great.
I'm not even sure what Gonzales did for the GOP won't be done in the future for Democrats, and then we will be in real trouble.
We would never killfile someone for being offensive. We already killfiled Econ because he has nothing to say and no interest in learning.
I'd commend to your attention Judge Baltazar Garzon of Spain, who's been willing to use the law against people like Pinochet, Kissinger and others. A brave man who's trying to expand the rule of law, who one can only hope will have his emulators as well as more recogintion...
Prof Wombat,
There is an interesting and learned history to be written on how some former imperialist empires (Spain, Sweden, Netherlands, Belgium) have become protectors and ambassadors of human rights.
"Elizabeth handled herself pretty nicely on Tweety's show last night, I hear."
and tweety was being a unconscionable shit
hardball is one thing, but shitball is something else again
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One of my favorite Republican apologies is, 'I'm sorry for being politically incorrect, but...', after which, reliably something frankly racist, sexist, homophobic or otherwise intolerant is spoken as if the speaker's been immunized against criticism.
Hillary giving a pretty good seminar on cspan.
leibniz,
Yup.
HBK - forget it, he/she just came in to stir up trouble. I am very greatful for how good we're all being by not rising to the bait.
how can you tell?
Tacitus Voltaire
check the altheometer.
Thanks, Spocko. I appreciate it.
Oy.
I'm out of here, got an early gig tomorrow. Have a good evening, folks.
leibniz: yup; a line drawn by a sympathetic scholar of Spanish history from Torquemada and the Duke of Alba through Garzon would be fascinating, and I'd bet it could be done.
i still don't get it...
why is it still so hard for so-called liberals/progressives to look at the clintons and the clinton years for what they were...is it because the right so villified/villifies them?
One of my favorite Republican apologies is, 'I'm sorry for being politically incorrect, but...',
i've been trying real hard to figure out what repubs mean by 'politically correct', but the closest i can come to it is that it means having good manners and not wanting to hurt other people's feelings
but they are dead set against wimpy stuff like that
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why is it still so hard for so-called liberals/progressives to look at the clintons and the clinton years for what they were...is it because the right so villified/villifies them?
Syd B
Not everyone agrees with you.
Well, Suharto's almost dead.
I'll just leave it at that.
Jeffraham Prestonian, That sucks. Did they tell you what to do about it?
At the risk of sounding like I get a kickback from his book sales, let me recommend Krugman's new book. He does a fine job of explicating the rise and mean-spirited, social darwinist thinking of the movement conservatives, finishing up with an argument that this is no time for bipartisanship. It's time to seize the reins and take this country back with a new New Deal.
He's right. And it should be the gauge by which we measure the Dem candidates.
Thanks ql.
I forgot myself for a minute there.
Rethugs pioneered our least favorite Americanism, the non-apology-apology, or "I'm sorry that you feel that way."
kei & yuri
just like "lay back and enjoy it" and "looters" (read: starving black people looking for food) deserve to be shot in NOLA." and countless other memes we've had to stomach recently.
what amazes me is that in person, many americans are total "victims" who believe [X] is oppressing them. but these same people vote for republicans who tell them that victims only need to be told that their feelings don't matter, because jeebus said, "suck it up, bitch!" truly, the propaganda machine in our country is highly effective.
But in power,
Ah. Words to consider, chumps.
Martin Luther King, Jr. said: l Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. I remind myself of that from time to time.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
And I remind myself Dr. King didnt' do anything through the court system, either civil or criminal. And everything he did was through the political system, which means it must always be struggled for, becuase it can always be undone.
Witness, for example, the reactionary shift in American culture in my lifetime, almost all of it going backwards now from even my childhood (i.e., we are further back, culturally/socially/politically, than we were 52 years ago).
Long hard struggle ahead....
One of my favorite Republican apologies is, 'I'm sorry for being politically incorrect, but...', after which, reliably something frankly racist, sexist, homophobic or otherwise intolerant is spoken as if the speaker's been immunized against criticism.
ProfWombat
"Ppolitically correct" meaning NOT being knuckleheads like they are.
Civility is weakness to them.
i've been trying real hard to figure out what repubs mean by 'politically correct', but the closest i can come to it is that it means having good manners and not wanting to hurt other people's feelings
Politically correct = "infringing on my right to be an unmitigated asshole"
Syd B
There is a certain extent to which a person can be protected by inept criticism, because the audience gets tired of hearing what they come to automatically take to be garbage and have no patience left for the actual crimes.
At the risk of sounding like I get a kickback from his book sales, let me recommend Krugman's new book.
noblejoanie
Seconded. He has a very clear writing style, an interesting thesis, and an impressive grasp of what the statistics tell us about how we got here.
Oh!
I received my notice from the Davidson County Election Commission, warning me that I'm a possible victim of identity theft.
Jeffraham Prestonian
I don't suppose that someone would use the data to file change of address orders for thousands of Democratic voters. This would disenfranchise thousands of people. Why, it would be unfair. It could even alter the election results.
One of my favorite Republican apologies is, 'I'm sorry for being politically incorrect, but...',
i've been trying real hard to figure out what repubs mean by 'politically correct', but the closest i can come to it is that it means having good manners and not wanting to hurt other people's feelings
but they are dead set against wimpy stuff like that
The way I read it is that "politically correct" means stuff we all know is not true or correct but that we must pretend is true because the horrible liberal fascists are forcing us to do so. Thus, we can't say that women are cunts even though we know they are and so on. The term has a code meaning for the conservatives.
It's also a weird reversal, because it implies that the liberals actually are in power, even when the power is held by the moneyed and the fundies. What they believe as true should really be called politically correct.
I could spend all day looking at these (h/t newscoma).
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RMJ: I'd love to hear Democratic presidential candidates talk more about the necessity of limiting presidential power and restoring some kind of balance between congress and the executive, in the context of a return to constitutional law. You, of all people, would, I think, understand my hatred of the concept of a Democrat using similar powers and methods as the Bushists to even ends with which I'd be in sympathy. Fruit of the poisoned tree, they'd be, even if achieved, if achieved thus...
I received my notice from the Davidson County Election Commission, warning me that I'm a possible victim of identity theft.
Jeffraham Prestonian
That really sucks. If its true, you need to get on it right away.
And it requires a year or more of constant monitoring to make sure it doesn't continue.
see ya.
i've been trying real hard to figure out what repubs mean by 'politically correct', but the closest i can come to it is that it means having good manners and not wanting to hurt other people's feelings
Politically correct = "infringing on my right to be an unmitigated asshole"
SteveNS
Alternatively: Calling bullshit on rationalized racism.
Politically correct = "infringing on my right to be an unmitigated asshole"
SteveNS
Nailed it.
truly, the propaganda machine in our country is highly effective.
chicago dyke, daring to belitt
Enough so to fool somewhere near half of the people at election time - then Diebold and voter suppression can do the rest.
It's also a weird reversal, because it implies that the liberals actually are in power, even when the power is held by the moneyed and the fundies. What they believe as true should really be called politically correct.
Echidne
Conservatives invented the term and originally used it ironically. It was quickly taken literally, fostering the "victim mentality" so beloved by them, so of course, they didn't complain.
Not everyone agrees with you.
Our money didn't go as far under Reagan and Bush I. We prospered under Clinton.
Under the Worst President Ever?
Bad news.
I learned from college republicans that the greatest act of repression of our time is not being able to yell n****r on campus.
So very very sad, the new McCarthyism.
RMJ: remember Richie Havens' 'Handsome Johnny', driving at you like a freight train?
It's a long hard road
Before we'll be free
David Huckabee-
http://bp1.blogger.com/
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Click it, really.
I don't know that I would value a book written by a pundit (George Steph.) but I know that the Edelmans are really wonderful people, Mrs. C worked with Mrs. E defending children for a very long time. The Edelmans were pissed, rightly so, but I don't think it had anything to do with Mrs. C and whatever power people thought she had. Mrs. C spend many years fighting for the rights of children before she ever got to DC.
mer: Jeffraham Prestonian, That sucks. Did they tell you what to do about it?
Contact the Big Three credit agencies, and go look at their site for more info. *sigh*
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Not defend himself?
That he did not behave honorably is a given.
You're just talking shit now.
HoneyBearKelly | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 5:30 pm | #
He could have defended the people who were doing the right thing. He could have fired Ken Starr and/or the FBI director. He could have spoken up about how Susan McDougal was being persecuted for refusing to lie. He could have resigned and let Al Gore be president if he was unable to protect his allies.
why is it still so hard for so-called liberals/progressives to look at the clintons and the clinton years for what they were...is it because the right so villified/villifies them?
Syd B | 01.05.08 - 5:37 pm | #
scholars often use the term 'manichean', orginally referring to the zoroastrian belief in a universe sharply divided between good and evil, as a way of describing a world view that consigns anybody with a hint of impurity irrevocably to the dark side
the clintons were not evil republicans - they were just unperfect humans, like the rest of us
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I'm not a fan of Big Dog, but I'm also not a fan of what happened to him.
Just my $0.02
Fruit of the poisoned tree, they'd be, even if achieved, if achieved thus...
ProfWombat
Was just pointing out to a friend that no Democrat is going to take office as POTUS and immediatley lobby Congress to pass laws limited Presidential power, rolling back those claims of authority Bush/Cheney have championed.
Executive orders might be written, but they exist only at the prerogative of the Executive. True restoration of power would need Congressional action.
I'm not going to hold my breath.
I could spend all day looking at these (h/t newscoma).
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Jeffraham Prestonian
It's true, those mice with the long elastic cord are hours of body sacrificing fun. Every new kitten should come with one included in the package.
Conservatives invented the term and originally used it ironically. It was quickly taken literally, fostering the "victim mentality" so beloved by them, so of course, they didn't complain.
I've read somewhere that it was first used within the communist party in the U.S.. I haven't actually studied the origins myself.
There's a big difference between the different uses of the term in different contexts, of course. But the usage we are talking about here is usually just a way to say something nasty.
a line drawn by a sympathetic scholar of Spanish history from Torquemada and the Duke of Alba through Garzon would be fascinating, and I'd bet it could be done.
What fascinates me is that the neo-cons such as Kristol seem to be reliving Torquemada's hatreds. He and others have so little understanding of history that it sucks the air out of the room. This clash of civilization nonsense goes back to calling non greeks barbarians because their language sounds like "bar bar bar". There is no recognition of the kinds of civilized kindness that has contributed to what has happened in South Africa, and how a country like Canada has worked to have 20% of its citizens born in other countries. Kristol and Dobbs and Buchanan are invested in a zero-sum game that unfortunately in the long term emphasizes the zero.
One of my favorite Republican apologies is, 'I'm sorry for being politically incorrect, but...', after which, reliably something frankly racist, sexist, homophobic or otherwise intolerant is spoken as if the speaker's been immunized against criticism.
ProfWombat |
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YES! I've been working up a preemptive strike to that kind of comment to what the talk radio hosts say.
"You know what? This is not an issue of calling someone "vertically challenged" instead of short. This is a comment about calling for some one to be hunted down and killed.
That's not "politically incorrect" that is a death threat and when it is directed toward Muslims, it's hate speech and since it's not going to stop because the management has repeatedly approved this, then it needs to became an unprofitable business model since that is one of the values it holds above all else.
Some how I don't think that Mercedes Benz wants their brand associated with death threats to potential customers.
Pat hopes he got it wrong.....
COLMES: You said that you convene with God on a regular basis. You go into deep prayer and mediation, and you just recently say to you was revealed who would be the winner in November. Is that correct?
ROBERTSON: I felt so. But I’m a little shaky on it and I didn’t want to say anything about it publicly. I’m not sure I heard from the Lord. And if I did, I hope I heard wrong.
I could spend all day looking at these
Damn you, JP!
I received my notice from the Davidson County Election Commission, warning me that I'm a possible victim of identity theft.
Jeffraham Prestonian
bad juju!
i hope you are able to clear it up without a lot of time and expense!
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He could have resigned and let Al Gore be president if he was unable to protect his allies.
Wow. Just wow.
Kristol and Dobbs and Buchanan are invested in a zero-sum game that unfortunately in the long term emphasizes the zero.
leibniz, monadΩ
that's because, being zeros themselves, it's the only number they really understand well.
ROBERTSON: I felt so. But I’m a little shaky on it and I didn’t want to say anything about it publicly. I’m not sure I heard from the Lord. And if I did, I hope I heard wrong.
It was probably Ares whispering sweet nothings in his ear.
rootless-e if Bill had done any of those things it would have kicked off an even bigger shit storm.
Politically correct = "infringing on my right to be an unmitigated asshole"
Exactly. I saw Dinesh D'Souza to whom we owe this gambit, speak at a local private college. He was so slimey he left a snail-trail wherever he went.
Just an appalling guy; and the frat boy hosts he spoke to were lapping up his shit.
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ROBERTSON: I felt so. But I’m a little shaky on it and I didn’t want to say anything about it publicly. I’m not sure I heard from the Lord. And if I did, I hope I heard wrong.
sally
Stupid shit gets everything else wrong.
There's a big difference between the different uses of the term in different contexts, of course. But the usage we are talking about here is usually just a way to say something nasty.
Echidne
When I first heard it, it was used sarcastically as a label applied to anything perceived as "liberal," to establish it was baseless and grounded only on airy-fairy theory, and not on "hard reality."
It quickly became "hard reality," however, which suited the victimhood conservatives love to bleat about. So long as someone somewhere doesn't think as they do, they feel threatened (a sociological phenomenon, actually, not a political one), and so "PC" became not a sarcastic slur, but an actual fact, one perpetrated by "evil liberals" bent on "world domination."
Or something very akin to it.
But I’m a little shaky on it and I didn’t want to say anything about it publicly. I’m not sure I heard from the Lord. And if I did, I hope I heard wrong.
Paraphrasing what Arthur Carlson told Johnny Fever, "If God had something he wanted you to hear, you'd hear it."
He's just trying to scare his sheeple into turning out at the polls to vote against any Democrat.
One of my first blog posts was about political correctness. It went something like this: This predead corpse is going to have some unborn chickens for breakfast
"we are further back, culturally/socially/politically, than we were 52 years ago"
1956? That's a stretch. The main regression has been the erosion of civil behavior in daily encounters. Women and minorities (including homosexuals) are in a much better position than they were 52 years ago, and that includes attitudes towards them from those who aren't them.
Think about urban life, crime, and drug use in the 70s and 80s. Think of some of the economic downturn periods.
Think about how AIDS was a death sentence in this country and how homosexuals were treated when it first arose.
We have come a long way in many ways in 52 years. Not perfectly forward, but there's many things to celebrate.
I'm not a fan of Big Dog, but I'm also not a fan of what happened to him.
I am a fan of Clinton--I have no illusions about his perfection or his flaws, not being a terribly emotional person I don't need or look for angels or superheros. All that mess was a tough call for me. Part of me wanted him to resign, but it would have been a victory for Gingrich, Delay, et al. And as we've seen, those people don't stop, aren't satisfied with their last victory.
We'd be in worse shape than we are now
Contact the Big Three credit agencies, and go look at their site for more info. *sigh*
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Jeffraham Prestonian
You know I happen to be an expert on identity theft.
If it's any consolation, if your information just lost, as in a lost laptop, or something, the chances of your actually being a victim are remote.
In any case, they should offer you a free year of credit monitoring. That's what mose businesses are doing.
Kristol and Dobbs and Buchanan are invested in a zero-sum game that unfortunately in the long term emphasizes the zero.
leibniz, monadΩ
They figure as long as they aren't around for the full term of the long run, they win.
Screw the losers.
When I first heard it, it was used sarcastically as a label applied to anything perceived as "liberal," to establish it was baseless and grounded only on airy-fairy theory, and not on "hard reality."
Conservatism has brought us hard reality.
Oh, yeah.
So just who all is on Robertson's party line to God?
If it wasn't God, who was it? Gladys Cravitts?
Pat needs some therapy.
rootless-e if Bill had done any of those things it would have kicked off an even bigger shit storm.
HoneyBearKelly | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 5:48 pm | #
So? He chose to avoid the shitstorm to stay in office, but give up on the agenda. The strategy of appeasing the republicans worked to keep Bill in office and launch him on a post-presidential career as beloved corporate spokesman. Everyone else paid the price.
It's hard offhand to think of a slimier group than the Dartmouth Review types: shameless racist, sexist, brachiating, supercilious, entitled provocateurs, funded by rich people of similar ilk. Nothing positive, nothing whatever, acrued from them...
I saw Dinesh D'Souza to whom we owe this gambit, speak at a local private college. He was so slimey he left a snail-trail wherever he went.
In Krugman's book he uses D'Nesh as an example of the bizarre new never-had-an-actual-job class of gooper pundits. In contrast to Safire, etc. from a previous generation before the wingtank sinecures who started out as respected scholars etc. these guys just seem to have been born on the tit of Scaife money.
ROBERTSON: I felt so. But I’m a little shaky on it and I didn’t want to say anything about it publicly. I’m not sure I heard from the Lord. And if I did, I hope I heard wrong.
sally | 01.05.08 - 5:45 pm | #
LOL.....
Maybe the Lord has just got it wrong this time! Pat could give him cousel.
I'm still here, Happer.
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The strategy of appeasing the republicans
He had a republican Congress.
Jesus freaking Christ.
I am a fan of Clinton--I have no illusions about his perfection or his flaws, not being a terribly emotional person I don't need or look for angels or superheros. All that mess was a tough call for me. Part of me wanted him to resign, but it would have been a victory for Gingrich, Delay, et al. And as we've seen, those people don't stop, aren't satisfied with their last victory.
We'd be in worse shape than we are now
Jim, Collieresque
I didn't want him to resign.
It's hard offhand to think of a slimier group than the Dartmouth Review types: shameless racist, sexist, brachiating, supercilious, entitled provocateurs, funded by rich people of similar ilk. Nothing positive, nothing whatever, acrued from them...
ProfWombat | 01.05.08 - 5:51 pm | #
That's unfair. Brachiating is perfectly normal and ok.
You might as well get some drunk out of any Bar in the country, and put him on the air, as get the opinion of Bill Kristol.
Infact the drunk would be right more times.
If Clinton had resigned, the Right would have gone after Gore.
They are never satisfied, never, never. Once emboldened, they would have just kept on amassing power, exactly as they have done under Bush. These guys have infinite appetites.
And that will be their undoing.
Oh, dear Christ, are people still bitching about the Clinton "scandal"?
And these are some of our "purist" progressives.
Shut the fuck up and get over it already...
That's unfair. Brachiating is perfectly normal and ok.
Today's English word for me! Thanks, ProfWombat.
Oh, dear Christ, are people still bitching about the Clinton "scandal"?
And these are some of our "purist" progressives.
Shut the fuck up and get over it already...
dave™©
Give that man whatever he's drinking.
It's on me!
1956? That's a stretch. The main regression has been the erosion of civil behavior in daily encounters. Women and minorities (including homosexuals) are in a much better position than they were 52 years ago, and that includes attitudes towards them from those who aren't them.
'55, since 2008 is barely underway.
Economically we are more divided than at any time since 1929, and it shows no signs of getting better.
Politically and economically, the reigning ethos is: "If it helps me, eventually it will help you. If it doesn't help you, your a lazy, weak loser!" My parents generation went to war reluctantly, and only after Pearl Harbor. We were supposed to have learned the lesson of not leaping into war after Vietnam. If anything, we're happier to go to war now than at anytime in the 20th century.
Richard Nixon would be a wild-eyed liberal today, even in the Democratic Party. Ike would we considered a terrorist sympathizer who was weak on national defense, especially if he were to give his "military-industrial complex" speech today (which didn't exist when he gave that speech; it's as much a fact of life as the internet today).
I could go on.
Think about urban life, crime, and drug use in the 70s and 80s. Think of some of the economic downturn periods.
Think about how AIDS was a death sentence in this country and how homosexuals were treated when it first arose.
ROBERTSON: I felt so. But I’m a little shaky on it and I didn’t want to say anything about it publicly. I’m not sure I heard from the Lord. And if I did, I hope I heard wrong.
Hey, Pat - Jerry's getting lonely down there in hell.....
I never wanted Bill to resign because I knew a set-up job when I saw it. The whole thing with Paula Jones, the lawsuit, Starr, getting him under oath, was all arranged to fake-up a perjury trap.
I happen to personally fairly conservative. and was appalled by what he did in the Oval Office, but I don't expect people to tell me the truth about their sex lives, so his finger wagging lie didn't bother me that much.
What the GOP did was an outrage, in my opinion - a total perversion of the justice system.
He had a republican Congress.
Jesus freaking Christ.
pie | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 5:53 pm | #
The FBI director works for the President - serves at his will in the current parlance. When your FBI director is diverting resources from searching for terrorists to sniffing underwear of anyone who ever supported you, you can either do your job and fire him, quit, or fail in your duties. The Bureau of Prisons is in the executive. When the Bureau of Prisons is putting someone in punishment cells for failing to perjure herself against you - you have the same choices. Eisenhower did the right thing with McArthur. Clinton wimped out.
Crap. I meant to edit that last post, and delete the rest after "I could go on," simply to be sure it would be accepted.
Preview is my friend.
Econ: 100% with you. Not a single Golden Age stands up to serious scrutiny.
Now, the Fabulous Fifties: Jim Crow. Women mostly confined to kinder, kuchen und kirche. The imminent threat of nuclear war and the occasional nuclear test in the atmosphere. Breast cancer a death sentence unless caught early, in which case you lop off the woman's breast as the only option. Everybody smoked, more people drank more, lots of young men dropping dead of heart attacks. congress in the utter control of Southern racists. McCarthy. Faubus. Conner. Edward Teller.
Gee, now that was a gas and a half...
I learned from college republicans that the greatest act of repression of our time is not being able to yell n****r on campus.
Notice how they'll never go into the locker room of the football or basketball team to exercise their right of free speech in this matter?
What's up with that???
That's unfair. Brachiating is perfectly normal and ok.
rootless-e | 01.05.08 - 5:53 pm | #
OK, I had to go look up brachiate.
The Clintons were soulessly hounded for all of those years. It was a miracle they could even get up in the morning let alone run a country and they did pretty well. In any case they are heroes compared to what came before and after. Mrs. Clinton by the way was wonderful to even attempt that healthcare initiative. All she got was shit and she still is. If we ever have a decent healtcare system she deserves a lot of credit. I would just prefer that we not believe the rethug propaganda that abounds about her.
Watching this DVD right now.
Originally saw it on Sundance.
It is a hoot!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0322023/
tmDave. It was lovely. For a few hours people actually stopped bashing Dems. I'm definitely coming to believe some new comers here have an agenda.
Time for dinner.
OK, I had to go look up brachiate.
Shared Humanity | 01.05.08 - 5:57 pm | #
I just learned it from my 9 year old
ROBERTSON: I felt so. But I’m a little shaky on it and I didn’t want to say anything about it publicly. I’m not sure I heard from the Lord. And if I did, I hope I heard wrong.
Oh Gawd! The John Edward (speaking to dead people J.E.) of preachers.
He'd be funny if he weren't so pathetic.
Oh, dear Christ, are people still bitching about the Clinton "scandal"?
After the toilet/law-breaking scandals of the republicans and the Constitution-ripping done by Bush/Cheney, Syd B is on his high horse about a blow-job?
Get over it.
I love the fact that English is NOT Echidne's first language.
She writes better in her second (third?)
language than 90 percent of people who have English are their first or only language.
Echnidne, what languages do you know and what order did you learn them in?
I have no new words I like but two that I like to say. "Grackle" and "Goo"
I don't care how Clinton reacted to repubrat pearl-clutching nonsense about blowjobs.
All that episode showed me was two things I already knew:
(i) Men always lie, badly, about sex. Even if it just makes things worse, and
(ii) rebubrats are creepy perverts.
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OK, I had to go look up brachiate.
Shared Humanity
THe only thing I took away from Anthropology 101, in spite of a really great professor.
Now, the Fabulous Fifties: Jim Crow. Women mostly confined to kinder, kuchen und kirche. The imminent threat of nuclear war and the occasional nuclear test in the atmosphere. Breast cancer a death sentence unless caught early, in which case you lop off the woman's breast as the only option. Everybody smoked, more people drank more, lots of young men dropping dead of heart attacks. congress in the utter control of Southern racists. McCarthy. Faubus. Conner. Edward Teller.
I've always said I'm glad I was not an adult during the 1950s.
I either would have sit my wrists or been on Valium.
Shitty, shitty, shitty time for women.
Notice how they'll never go into the locker room of the football or basketball team to exercise their right of free speech in this matter?
What's up with that???
dave™©
My hope would be that all of the team would help the gentleman out.
At, perhaps, forty or fifty mph.
In contrast to Safire, etc. from a previous generation before the wingtank sinecures who started out as respected scholars etc. these guys just seem to have been born on the tit of Scaife money.
melior
I think most columnists (admittedly of Broder's generation, and George Will is already long in the tooth) came up to the "column" in the paper through being reporters. Which usually, as in, say, the work of H.L. Mencken, grounded them in something other than theory and prattling.
I ignore most columnists today, simply because they write of a world they have never experienced, or what portion of it they have (David Brooks, I'm looking at you!) seems so artificial as to be wholly invented.
Give that man whatever he's drinking.
It's on me!
No drinking at the library!
SLIT, not sit
ROBERTSON: I felt so. But I’m a little shaky on it and I didn’t want to say anything about it publicly. I’m not sure I heard from the Lord. And if I did, I hope I heard wrong.
'Cause I think that if everyone stops being terrified about everything my income stream will dry up.
When the Bureau of Prisons is putting someone in punishment cells for failing to perjure herself against you -
You are so hard on him, and I don't know what happened here.
Do you?
I'm definitely coming to believe some new comers here have an agenda.
I have an agenda. It involves Athenae and her ferrets. Hint: think Kevin Federline.
No drinking at the library!
dave™©
Heh. I miss college.
Not really. Kinda the way I (don't) miss smoking.
anyone know when the dem debate starts?
anyone know when the dem debate starts?
When CoT says it does!
RMJ: I didn't always agree with James Reston or Russell Baker, but their mastery of the writer's craft was consistent and impressive. The op-ed page of the Times these days presents prose that, on a good day, is undistinguished rather than a laughing stock...
I know what happened with Susan, but not why Clinton didn't intervene.
Bush commuted Scooter's sentence and got away with it.
Love that media.
Now, the Fabulous Fifties: Jim Crow. Women mostly confined to kinder, kuchen und kirche. The imminent threat of nuclear war and the occasional nuclear test in the atmosphere. Breast cancer a death sentence unless caught early, in which case you lop off the woman's breast as the only option. Everybody smoked, more people drank more, lots of young men dropping dead of heart attacks. congress in the utter control of Southern racists. McCarthy. Faubus. Conner. Edward Teller.
Gee, now that was a gas and a half...
ProfWombat
Studs Terkel calls the generation which changed all of that "The Greatest Generation." And he doesn't mean the same group Brokaw did.
I've always said I'm glad I was not an adult during the 1950s.
I either would have sit my wrists or been on Valium.
My mother, who became an adult during that period, used to say pretty much the same thing.
Though I think the drug of choice back then was "Miltown."
Spocko, English probably now is my main language. It was the third I language I learned but my second (Swedish) is very rusty these days. I know some German and Russian but I have forgotten most of those, too.
So I do know why Clinton didn't intervene.
Men always lie, badly, about sex. Even if it just makes things worse.....
That's the way I saw the whole lying under oath bit......
Let's see...having a little indiscreet affair...wife doesn't know....get's asked by third party....what do you do?
Lie your ass off! Try to get your buddies to cover for you! Anything but tell the truth.
This predead corpse is going to have some unborn chickens for breakfast
Echidne | Homepage | 01.05.08 - 5:48 pm | #
well, mme voltaire is immolating a dead cow, and i have to go scrape my face so that i resemble a human more closely, so
later...
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Studs Terkel is almost as old as Simels, and twice as wise.
TKK:
LEAVE ATHENAE ALONE! She's a HUMAN!
"Economically we are more divided than at any time since 1929, and it shows no signs of getting better."
That's an interesting angle. Are you referring to income disparities between the top and bottom? Wealth disparities?
A widening of that gap in and of itself isn't always problematic. The problem is if given segments of the population aren't increasing their incomes or wealth over time and benefitting from the advances that the progression of time brings.
Going back to minorities and women, I am fairly confident that those groups have improved their economic positions since 1955. I would need to look at the data to quantify it, but it would seem to be the case. I also recall that Asian females outearn white females in the US at this point, and women clearly outnumber men in terms of college enrollment.
I don't think it's uniformly better or worse than 52 years ago.
Lovely reading this evening. I learn so much here. Thanks.
I'm off to a going-away dinner. Just wish it was for Bush&co.
My mother was at school in the early 1950's and remembers a speech in which she was told that women don't need a university education and that they shouldn't take places that men need.
I think most columnists (admittedly of Broder's generation, and George Will is already long in the tooth) came up to the "column" in the paper through being reporters.
Krugman lists as contrasting examples many from the previous generation of conservative intellectuals who were scholars first, largely academic sociologists or economists.
Heh. I miss college.
This ain't college.
And I'm not the oldest guy here!
I agree with you spocko, of course, jus noting that "vertically challenged" was a fake term invented so-called PC foes , as almost all such terms were, so they could calls efforts to discourage use of the n-word "policial correctness run amok."
Echidne is your first Finnish?
Studs Terkel is almost as old as Simels, and twice as wise.
Men aren't as wise as they think they are.
Echidne is your first Finnish?
Joo.
I just assumed Echidne spoke all
I meant "Echidne WAS your first language Finnish?"