I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
After me, the fucking flood.
~
Yes, really scary. frightened the shit out of the NYSE.
Who needs homeruns, when you're the Kingsar?
I'll alert the riff raff.
~
OBAMA '08!
[shrugs]
Good morning, bats. Is there something happening today? The teebee people are all aflutter. 
can we haz plug in commuting cars now?
Any chance Hillary will somehow let all the Larry Johnsons that are out there that they are freaking loons?
Ah the famous Clinton punctuality.
When I saw Bill give a speech during the 92 campaign he was almost 2 hours late!
the Wii is dwarfed by my Xbox 360
Repost
Greenwald...
No matter how many times one sees it, it will never cease to amaze that the exact same media mavens who righteously strutted around demanding that Bill Clinton be impeached or forced to resign because the "honor" of our political system demanded that, continue casually to dismiss every crime of the last seven years as nothing more than a garden-variety, good faith "policy dispute" which only shrill rabble want to see "turned into a criminal or impeachable affair."
Another thing the media did with Clinton is second guess every military move he ever instigated, accusing him of "wagging the dog" in Kosovo. The fucks sure as hell weren't automatically assuming that he or people in his administration were telling the truth, the default position with Bush.
msnbc now calling it an "endorsement speech" on the crawl.
Check out bonddad's diary on this topic at kos. It's good.
Oh heck, I'll even help you along by linking to it....
What's going on in the oil market?
Yeah, but the GM people are kinda-sorta thinking about stopping production of Hummers.
I always appreciated the Freeway Blogger sign that read, "Real soldiers are dying in their Hummers so you can play soldier in yours."
Deadthreaded:
Broder has one correct pont in that pile of shit Greenwald posts: If Clinton had resigned, and Gore assumed the presidency, the world would indeed be a different, and much better, place. Not that Clinton should have resigned over theRepublicans' filthy, pornographic tactics, but certaily Gore finishing out the term would have led to Gore being overwhelmingly elected, no 9/11, and 7000 Americans alive and home with their families, among many other benefits to the population of the USA and the rest of the world..
ronjazz | 06.07.08 - 12:06 pm | #
The scraggly beard, the beret adorned with a star, the intense gaze: it is an instantly recognisable image which has been used to sell everything from booze to T-shirts to mugs to bikinis.
Che Guevara is an icon of the 20th century whose brand has turned into a worldwide marketing phenomenon. If you want to shift more products or give your corporate image a bit of edge, the Argentine revolutionary's face and name are there to be used, like commercial gold dust.
The fact that Guevara was a communist guerrilla and Marxist ideologue is an irony of little interest to his capitalist exploiters. It has, however, become a problem for his children.
Aleida Guevara this week denounced the commercialisation of her father's image as an affront to his socialist ideals. "Something that bothers me now is the appropriation of the figure of Che that has been used to make enemies from different classes. It's embarrassing."
A man who fought and died trying to overthrow capitalism and material excess should not be used to sell British vodka, French fizzy drinks and Swiss mobile phones, among other travesties, she said. "We don't want money, we demand respect."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/...008/jun/07/
cuba
Any chance Hillary will somehow let all the Larry Johnsons that are out there that they are freaking loons?
The freaking loons are already saying that Hillary cant make them support Obama, and that their "movement" is bigger than Hillary now anyway.
i think one thing is clear--this the arab's answer to suck on this.
as in, suck on this first world.
to me, the important question becomes "who receives all that money?" it seems "minor," in the face of trillions lost on a senseless war/occupation, and the various other unaccounted, crony revenue streams of the bush admin, but in truth a trillion dollars is nothing to sneeze at. so who is getting it? and what are they doing with it? what, specifically, are they buying with it here, in terms of our political process?
if it were me, i'd be turning back a small percentage of that money, just a couple of tens of millions, to make sure that politically, yurp, asia and amurka were all inclined to keep that one way flow of money flowing, and that trade imbalance imbalanced. wouldn't seem too hard, neither. consumers like consuming a lot, convincing them to remain so seems both cheap and easy to me.
Good thing the U.S. won the war in Iraq. Just think what the price would be if the war was lost.
Mars, Bitches!
Teh Sequel:
http://www.breitbart.com/article...&
show_article=1
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The fucks sure as hell weren't automatically assuming that he or people in his administration were telling the truth, the default position with Bush.
Yeah, but they're going to have an epiphany in about 7 months, and go back to their traditional adversarial relationship with power.*
*unless, of course, some kind of mavericky straight-talker wins the election.
GENEVA, June 6 (Reuters) - United Nations experts on child rights criticised the United States on Friday over detention of juveniles at Guantanamo, in Afghanistan and Iraq, and voiced concern that some may have suffered cruel treatment.
They also called for an end to recruitment of under-18s into the U.S. armed forces and for a halt to enlistment campaigns aimed specifically at young people from minority groups and poor or single-parent families.
The strictures were issued in a report from the 18-member Committee on the Rights of the Child, which monitors performance under U.N. pacts, including two signed by Washington on children and armed conflict and on child prostitution.
On under-18s -- defined by the U.N. as children -- held in U.S.-run prisons in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Committee said it was "concerned over reports indicating the use of cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment."
The 18 experts, nominated by governments but expected to be independent of them, said they had similar reports on abuse of young prisoners held for several years at the U.S. naval base in Cuba's Guantanamo Bay.
They declared themselves "seriously concerned that children who were recruited or used in armed conflict, rather than being considered primarily as victims, are classified as 'unlawful enemy combatants'," and face military tribunals at the base.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m4465...&hd=&size=1&
l=e
Deadthreaded:
Broder has one correct pont in that pile of shit Greenwald posts: If Clinton had resigned, and Gore assumed the presidency, the world would indeed be a different, and much better, place.
Anyone remember Broder supporting Gore over shrub in 2000?
'Cause otherwise, Broder is just further burying his ass with his one correct point.
~
Good afternoon, friends.
I have to shake my head in disgust whenever I look at that McCain ad.
Because it's much better to bomb people and kill them than it is to sit down and talk to them.
What's even more pathetic is that the people who get off on war are too damn cowardly to enlist.
The stock market fell because Obama clinched the Democratic nomination with his terrorist fist jab.
The freaking loons are already saying that Hillary cant make them support Obama, and that their "movement" is bigger than Hillary now anyway.
The Old Man From Scene 24
Those folks scare me. You gotta think they would invite the British back if their candidate lost in 1788.
The oil exporting countries will get an extra 750 billion much of which, if the past is any indicator, will be totally wasted.
During the five years the United States has occupied Iraq, the Bush administration has created a new state with a number of notable features: A venal, dysfunctional government. A terrorist haven and training ground. A nation so violent and dangerous that 10 percent of the population has fled.
Add to that a new hallmark: Nearly the most corrupt nation on Earth.
Only two states out of 180, Somalia and Burma, outrank Iraq in Transparency International's latest worldwide corruption index. They are tied for last place. But Iraq has plummeted through the rankings since 2004, when it was near the middle of the pack, and is now within a hair's width of crashing to the bottom.
Along the way, U.S. officials say, Iraqi government officers, from Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki on down, have embezzled not only uncounted billions of dollars from their own treasury -- but also $18 billion in U.S. aid. That's about equal to the annual budget for Colorado.
Radhi al-Radhi, an Iraqi judge who provided that figure, was the state's chief anti-corruption official, until death threats forced him to flee last year. He called the theft among the largest in modern history.
In recent months, several U.S. government reports have detailed the problem, and Congress has held hearings. The conclusion: Not only has the United States provided much of the money Iraqi officials have purloined, U.S. officials have aided and abetted the theft.
The State Department, particularly, has seemed eager to obfuscate and cover up the thievery -- afraid, it seems, of tarnishing the Iraqi government's reputation. Last summer, embassy officials in Baghdad researched a 70-page internal but unclassified report that detailed the plundering of the nation's wealth. The pillage was so widespread, the report said, it threatened the Iraqi government's very survival.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m4464...&hd=&size=1&
l=e
Hemp is good biofuel.
Libby, lifelong Mets fan
At the very least it can make you not care about high gas prices...
those big numbers mean jack shit to me, $1000 per oil tank for my fuel oil is gonna hurt hard next winter
[gotta get that used wood stove]
Off topic, but talk about stupidity.
I'm reading a true crime book about this woman from a small little town in the so-called Bible Belt. She's accused of Munchausen Syndrome By Proxy...felony child abuse against her son.
Her family is asked to read articles on MSBP, and one sister says:
"Those articles were ALL written by people from ENGLAND!
They're not even AMERICAN."
I'm betting this idiot and her family vote Repugnican.
So - when is the invasion of Alberta to take control of the tar sands planned?
$140? Hell, wait till it gets to $170.
Can we start using the D word yet? Many have weighed in using the R word, so I'm thinkin' by November...
(D = depression, R = recession...)
get an extra 750 billion much of which, if the past is any indicator, will be totally wasted.
you mean they don't need solid gold faucets on their 747's?
'I have moral authority'
Jimmy Carter has snubbed the lecture circuit cash cow to devote his post-presidential life to brokering peace in the Middle East and fighting disease. So why is it that so many Americans can't stand him? Jonathan Freedland asks him
Jimmy Carter was recently at the Hay festival
From American Heritage Dictionary:
[Russian tsar', from Old Russian tsĭsarĭ, emperor, king, from Old Church Slavonic tsěsarĭ, from Gothic kaisar, from Greek, from Latin Caesar, emperor; see caesar.]
The word "tsar" may derive from "caesar", but it also means king.
I'm betting this idiot and her family vote Repugnican.
I think that would be a safe bet.
So why is it that so many Americans can't stand him? Jonathan Freedland asks him
Because Americans don't get it!
It's all style and no substance.
See: Reagan, Bush
Groan
Gloria Steinem features in the Hill event today, rebirth of 60's feminism?
Hill due to speak at 12:30
Most of the political analysts on Fox News this morning think there is no way Hillary can deliver anything but a fraction of her 18 million voters over to Obama. Obama enters the Fall campaign greatly hobbled, with the Democrats badly fractured with little hope of getting together for the Fall election. The kool aid Obamabots and Rev Wright followers aren't enough to carry Barry across the finish line. Hillary Clinton is swinging after the bell, today's speech is a worthless exercise.
The freaking loons are already saying that Hillary cant make them support Obama, and that their "movement" is bigger than Hillary now anyway.
The Old Man From Scene 24
Small minority with big mouths.
And the Repig-loving MSM all too eager to give them attention.
If Hillary tells her people to support Obama, they will support Obama/
(CNN) February 2009. In news today, President Obama went forward on a number of initiatives. Meanwhile, Senator Clinton has not yet left her house to give an endorsement speech.
wankers - Gordon Brown has written to all Labour MPs, seeking their support for plans to extend the time terror suspects can be held without charge to 42 days.
The Commons vote on extending the limit from 28 days is on Wednesday.
The prime minister has told MPs that new safeguards mean suspects would only be held for six-weeks during "a terrorist crisis situation".
The government faces a battle to get the proposals through Parliament, amid claims they infringe civil liberties.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_po...ics/
7441455.stm
Russert drives me insane.
You guys know our Hecarte is there, waiting for Hil to speak, right? Can't wait to hear her take. She said she'd probably be crying.
Most of the political analysts on Fox News
Is fucking fascist bullshit.
Take a hike, auggie.
Hillary is better able to handle events at 3 am?
Oh. Hill's car is still in the driveway (for her 12:00 noon speech).
Republicans can't stand Jimmy Carter because he lives the kind of moral life that they only claim to have during elections. Except without the hatred.
His example continually highlights the hypocrisy and divisiveness of the Republican "family values" sham.
Most of the political analysts on Fox News ZZZZZzzzzzz zzzzzz zzzz
Nobody with a clue gives a shit what the shitheels at Fox News say, moron.
thanks for 2006 and 2008, asshole.
Hillary is better able to handle events at 3 am?
__
You don't have to put on mascara at 3 am
Hillary Clinton is swinging after the bell, today's speech is a worthless exercise.
auggiesback
Let's say it's all true, that Obama loses in a landslide.
Why, exactly, do you want to continue business as usual? Have things been so good for you and yours lately? Do you think America is on the right track?
Are you delusional?
Now let me tell a story 'bout a man named Jed...
I really hope Hillary speaks soon, because I need to get my walk in and it's already over 90 degrees with the heat index. Yes, I realize I sound like a selfish asshole.
But it's hard walking 4.5 miles when it's super hot and humid, and the later it gets in the day, the worse it gets.
/Says she who could have walked at 8:00 AM.
Sorry for bitching. I'll flog myself now.
Small minority with big mouths.
most likely. I hope so anyway.
Hemp is good biofuel.
Libby, lifelong Mets fan
At the very least it can make you not care about high gas prices...
George Johnston | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 12:13 pm | #
Hemp doesn't get you high, but if we include cannabis capitalism that is central to my economy rescue plan, it does have the added benefit of improving spirits over not being able to afford to drive anywhere.
During the five years the United States has occupied Iraq, the Bush administration has created a new state with a number of notable features: A venal, dysfunctional government. A terrorist haven and training ground. A nation so violent and dangerous that 10 percent of the population has fled.
... not only that but also look at what he did to Iraq!
Hillary Clinton is swinging after the bell, today's speech is a worthless exercise.
auggiesback | 06.07.08 - 12:17 pm | #
Everybody should take this very, very seriously. Auggie's record on political predictions is superb.
They said that she's behind because they're waiting for the Susan Koman Race for the Cure peeps to make their way thru wherever it is that she's going.
Most of the political analysts on Fox News
Most of the scientists at the Tobacco Institute say that smoking is a healthful habit with absolutely no side effects. You should take their advice and puff away, troll.
Any chance that Hillary will concede defeat before Halleys Comet returns?
Are you delusional?
David Derbes, ochen' pissed
All our trolls are delusional.
Their precious GOP cares nothing about them and still they slavishly support it.
How do people that dumb function?
17 million voters must not be made more bitter than they are.
the 'crone' must be honoured by the 'young' man with victory handed to her on a platter.
AND
obama must retire her debt
AND
renounce his position on the ticket as her V.P. in deference to Bill Clinton our next
VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.s shameful 'endorsement' now.
I can't stand to listen to the talking heads. I had to turn the teevee off. Can somebody please tell me when Hillary leaves her house so I can limit my exposure to inane drivel?
Auggie's record on political predictions is superb.
He said he wasn't coming back here after the November 2006 elections.
He's a liar as well as delusional.
Corey Robin on the history and strategy of American conservatism.
Mark Steyn:
Every time I hear an Obama speech, I start to giggle. But millions of voters don’t. And, if Chris Matthews and the tingly legged media get their way and drag Obama across the finish line this November, the laugh will be on those of us who think that serious times demand grown-up rhetoric.
You must have giggled your ass off every time Dumbya spoke.
Is there a bigger collection of blowhards than the men of MSNBC?
DETROIT (AP)—The Stanley Cup is OK after taking a tumble during the Red Wings’ celebrations in Detroit.
NHL spokeswoman Bernadette Mansur says Saturday the Cup got a slight dent Friday after some players took the trophy to Cheli’s Chili Bar, a downtown restaurant owned by Red Wings defenseman Chris Chelios.
Mansur says dent was smoothed out, and the trophy was expected to keep making the rounds.
Any chance that Hillary will concede defeat before Halleys Comet returns?
nottin bob | 06.07.08 - 12:21 pm | #
A good one, I'd guess.
who the fuck is Mark Steyn?
The kool aid Obamabots and Rev Wright followers aren't enough to carry Barry across the finish line.
____
I'll carry him! He's pretty skinny, shouldn't be too hard
Just switched to Firefox (and killfile).
It's too frigging hot to put up with trolls.
The class politics of abortion rights
Major Macro? He was in Catch 22, I think...
You must have giggled your ass off every time Dumbya spoke.
Lime Rickey
Why not....preznit fuckface giggles at everything.
Even when he talks of war and death.
Me....I get nauseous whenever the sociopathic little fuck opens his mouth.
Auggie's record on political predictions is superb.
That's right! He manages to be wrong all the time!
What are the odds of that? 
who the fuck is Mark Steyn?
The Old Man From Scene 24 | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 12:25 pm | #
A chickenhawk from the great white north.
~
This is tough on network announcers. But at least Obermann has training; it is like filling in during a rain delay at the ball game.
Steyn is one of the Cornholers.
elkal, no, sweets, that was your Boss From Hell. I'm assuming you've had one because nearly everyone I've met in software has suffered from at least one
Most of the political analysts on FOX should hang from the necks until dead, with the Bush team. Treason deserves the death penalty.
Yellow fever is sweeping through the thousands of Congolese expelled from Angola, a local official says.
At least 10 people have already died, says the mayor of Lutembo in south-west Democratic Republic of Congo.
The town's hospital, which is chronically short of medicines, is struggling to cope.
More than 20,000 Congolese diamond miners have been expelled from Angola in recent weeks. The UN is trying to reach the remote region by helicopter.
Previous mass expulsions in the area were halted by an agreement between the two countries but with Angola preparing for elections later this year, correspondents say the authorities are keen to rid the area of foreigners.
Last year, the two countries resolved their border dispute.
They have both experienced years of war, which correspondents say has led to confusion over their common boundary.
The area is rich in oil and diamonds.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world...ica/
7440577.stm
Libby, best place to get the real skinny is when Culture of Truth is here. Alas, I'm not seeing him around at the moment.
if Chris Matthews and the tingly legged media get their way and drag Obama across the finish line this November, the laugh will be on those of us who think that serious times demand grown-up rhetoric.
I thought serious times demand actual solutions, not rhetoric.
Russert drives me insane.
I just done reading a book by his wife, Maureen Orth. It was about serial killer Andrew Cunnan.
The thing dripped with homophobia and self-righteous "blame the victim" bullshit.
She's as bad as her husband.
who the fuck is Mark Steyn?
Joe Lieberman's spiritual advisor.
ronjazz, might be hard to get a hotel room in DC if that event's ever scheduled
Most of the political analysts on FOX should hang from the necks until dead, with the Bush team. Treason deserves the death penalty.
ronjazz
I love you!
You AND billy b!
I thought serious times demand actual solutions, not rhetoric.
that's crazy talk.
ronjazz, might be hard to get a hotel room in DC if that event's ever scheduled
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 06.07.08 - 12:30 pm | #
Jumbotron, and satellite hookups. The whole world will cheer.
More "beating" Hillary metaphors. Later, dancing on her grave!
Libby, best place to get the real skinny is when Culture of Truth is here. Alas, I'm not seeing him around at the moment.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
CoT does do the best translations. But I actually want to watch the speech, I just don't want to listen to the dumbdits speculating on what she's going to say.
Are they going to follow the motorcade by helicopter?
if Chris Matthews and the tingly legged media get their way and drag Obama across the finish line this November, the laugh will be on those of us who think that serious times demand grown-up rhetoric.
I thought serious times demand actual solutions, not rhetoric.
NTodd, HilFemWack
Silly you. Serious times demand dressing up like a flyboy and prancing around the deck of an aircraft carrier using American servicemen as a political backdrop. Haven't you learned anything?
Ok, Wolfie now says the Clintons have left the house. Time to turn your tv back on, if you must.
Greetings and adieu, Sallyh!
I'll be back in a few weeks carrying my project plans... or on them....
TOW! How are you on this lovely Saturday?
How to beat the high price of gas.
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/
1099540.html
CHARLOTTE - Thieves stole 800 gallons of gasoline from a Charlotte gas station, and surveillance cameras captured the crime on tape.
WCNC-TV in Charlotte reports that the family-owned gas station lost $4,000 in gas.
Surveillance video shows car after car pulling up to the pumps, filling up and then driving away. Police say it appears as if two men organized the incident. It took two hours to drain the premium pumps.
Customers said the store had been open about seven months.
where is the speech--in DC?
Weeding the yard is hard work.
and a roughly $750 billion increase in the revenues of the major oil exporting economies
So Putin and the Wahabis win? Dang!
Ok, Wolfie now says the Clintons have left the house. Time to turn your tv back on, if you must.
TheOtherWA
OMFG! Why won't he tell us what they're wearing? What happened to serious journalism?
ronjazz, best argument for purchasing a large screen HDTV I've heard yet.
Hi, Sallyh! Doing ok this morning. How are you? I haven't been around much this week, I feel so out of it.
where is the speech--in DC?
yes.
This is tough on network announcers. But at least Obermann has training; it is like filling in during a rain delay at the ball game.
Corinthian columns.
"I see OJ."
Wah...buy a gas tank lock!
More "beating" Hillary metaphors. Later, dancing on her grave!
Cookie Fleck `08
I've had up with that bullshit.
Karl Rove isn't vilified the way she is.
OT: An international appeal was launched yesterday urging Muslims around the world to learn about non-Muslims and their cultures for the sake of peaceful coexistence.
The call was made in a communique issued at the end of the International Islamic Conference for Dialogue, a three-day event that brought together more than 600 influential scholars and academics.
The plea, one of many in the 18-page document, aimed to encourage Muslims to reach out to people from other monotheistic faiths in order to diffuse conflict and restore tolerance. The appeal was careful to make the distinction between integration and assimilation: "Coexistence and cooperation do not mean concessions regarding the fundamental principles nor harmonising among religions."
The initiative has the support of the Saudi monarch King Abdullah, who is seen as a bridge between the west and the Muslim world. An ally, Dr Ezzedin Ibrahim from the Ministry of Presidential Affairs in the United Arab Emirates, said: "Saudi Arabia is the cradle of Islam and only King Abdullah could be effective in calling Muslims from all parts of the world."
In addition to the emphasis on dialogue, there was renewed commitment to fight terrorism, with a pledge to study the phenomena and causes of violence and fanaticism, a tacit acknowledgment that the negative perception of Islam stems from events such as suicide bombings.
There were signs that dialogue with other believers, specifically Jews, would be problematic. Several clerics, including the grand mufti of Saudi Arabia, said it was almost impossible to talk to them because of the situation in the occupied territories. "How can you negotiate with someone who is against you all the time? They seem to be against us in every way so I don't know how we're supposed to have dialogue."
Egyptian cleric Yusuf al-Qaradawi said he would only talk to Jews who denounced Zionism and he urged Muslims to talk to Buddhists, Hindus and atheists. His impromptu speech, lasting 15 minutes, garnered the loudest applause, proving his popularity among fellow clerics even if the west views him with suspicion.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/.../
islam.religion
TOW, I had a year like that recently. My sympathies. Would a mimosa and a croissant help?
Are they going to follow the motorcade by helicopter?
The Old Man From Scene 24
Fly?
In DC?
The goons on top of the White House would shoot it down with their stingers.
Oops -
mean to say I 've had it up to here (points to my ears).
The goons on top of the White House would shoot it down with their stingers.
true 
Sallyh, oh my yes! Please.
Weeding the yard is hard work.
Zap Rowsdower...True Story
I did that last week.
I feel your pain!
Ah, well, one day, we'll come to our senses. Maybe a decade too late for our own good, but, eventually, we will.
I, too, am weary of the Hillary bashing. I disagree with her policy positions. But she's not the devil incarnate. That would be the current White House occupants.
White bronco?
I, too, am weary of the Hillary bashing. I disagree with her policy positions. But she's not the devil incarnate. That would be the current White House occupants.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Hear, hear!
I, too, am weary of the Hillary bashing. I disagree with her policy positions. But she's not the devil incarnate.
BLASPHEMY!
(Hands TOW an extra large mimosa and a warm croissant with fresh butter and jam)
I'm watching the crowd on c-span. Is Hecate wearing a red carnation or anything?
NTodd, the kids still babysitting you?
I, too, am weary of the Hillary bashing. I disagree with her policy positions. But she's not the devil incarnate.
BLASPHEMY!
NTodd, HilFemWack
Seems like that sometimes.
I'm watching the crowd on c-span. Is Hecate wearing a red carnation or anything?
She's the one turning Hillary bashers into newts.
I've had up with that bullshit.
Karl Rove isn't vilified the way she is.
Terry C, Post-American Liberal | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 12:35 pm | #
My problem with Hillary is that with the exception of the obvious crazy shit -- like her killing her lesbian lover Vince Foster -- I actually believe most of the horrible stuff people say about her is true.
And I'm not crazy about her fricking Republican-Lite husband, either. I don't trust either of them as far as I could throw 'em, to coin a cliche.
Oh, my freaking parents are coming over.
I think that they want to make sure that I've survived three whole days without Zapette.
Jim McKay: Dead.
Even at the end, Clinton Standard Time.
Weeding the yard is hard work.
__
It's hard to weed the yard when Hill is late and we have to sit at our computers.
I, too, am weary of the Hillary bashing. I disagree with her policy positions. But she's not the devil incarnate.
Agreed. *eagerly takes mimosa and croissant* Thank you!
Being late is the ultimate disrespect.
I bet it was Bill that held her up.
NTodd, the kids still babysitting you?
Yes. Just had a battle of wills with the 8yo. And the 3yo let Mexico outside unsupervised, which caused a frantic search until he showed up at the nice neighbor's house (not the jackass crotchey simels neighbor who threatened my dogs and whom everybody hates). The 2yo, in contrast, is content with a baba and watching Spongebob.
Oh, and I think I broke my toe with an icepak.
Zap, I'm assuming you survived many years before meeting Zapette.
They just want an excuse to bother you
Even at the end, Clinton Standard Time.
Obama was quite late to the PDX rally.
Being late is the ultimate disrespect.
She needed an opening act to keep everyone occupied.
My...what a grand hall. That's some arena...where is she speaking?
(not the jackass crotchey simels neighbor who threatened my dogs and whom everybody hates).
You have an obnoxious Jew next door?
Who knew?
NTodd, and you thought it was hard work being the single parent of a Pack.
Planning to sleep for a week when Thers and Mary return (assuming they ever do)?
Obama was quite late to the PDX rally.
NTodd, HilFemWack
He needs to correct that.
Yes. Just had a battle of wills with the 8yo. And the 3yo let Mexico outside unsupervised, which caused a frantic search until he showed up at the nice neighbor's house (not the jackass crotchey simels neighbor who threatened my dogs and whom everybody hates). The 2yo, in contrast, is content with a baba and watching Spongebob.
I see a Stephen King novel in the making.
They just want an excuse to bother you
True...but it's mostly my Mom wanting to get my Dad out of the house. He doesn't do much these days...
Turned it on too soon. Some dumbdit just announced that THEY would be watching carefully for a yellow flag signaling "Clintonian wiggle room" and how THEY would jump on it.
It's just so irritating. As if anybody but them cares about what THEY fucking think.
You have an obnoxious Jew next door?
If only. But he does hate Bowie.
where are Molly and Thers?
sorry been out of the loop here, since starting work i do miss a lot
Being late is the ultimate disrespect.
I bet it was Bill that held her up.
Gomez | 06.07.08 - 12:41 pm | #
he brought her a copy of 'Leaves of Grass' by Walt Whitman
Obama showed up 2 hours late for a rally in Pennsylvannia a couple of my friends were at. They were very annoyed.
He needs to correct that.
It's called campaigning. Things go awry.
How about we care about real things?
My...what a grand hall. That's some arena...where is she speaking?
It's the Viagra Two Penis DAR Hall.
Is Hecate wearing a red carnation or anything?
She's the one turning Hillary bashers into newts.
NTodd, HilFemWack
Don't look at me... I'm just minding my own business, basking in the sun.
NTodd, what is it they say about kids? They keep you young, or something like that.
Sorry about your toe, but you can use the icepack that broke it to keep the swelling down.
commenter on c-span says the first US soldier to be killed in Iraq war was an illegal immigrant
My problem with Hillary is that with the exception of the obvious crazy shit -- like her killing her lesbian lover Vince Foster -- I actually believe most of the horrible stuff people say about her is true.
And I'm not crazy about her fricking Republican-Lite husband, either. I don't trust either of them as far as I could throw 'em, to coin a cliche.
steve hüssein® simels
We know how you feel about the Clintons.
It's the Viagra Two Penis DAR Hall.
Ooooh....too soon.
Planning to sleep for a week when Thers and Mary return (assuming they ever do)?
No can do. E's visiting (and bringing her 2 cats) on Saturday. Then I have a mere two weeks to clean the house. Then the road trip starts...
My...what a grand hall. That's some arena...where is she speaking?
Zap Rowsdower...True Story | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 12:42 pm | #
The Grand Hall.
And speaking of obnoxious Jews, Adam Sandler's newest is without question the greatest Zionist action comedy ever made.
Warning: Lainie Kazan has a nude sex scene. A tuchus the size of an aircraft carrier.
And yet I was strangely excited, although perhaps I've said too much....
Even at the end, Clinton Standard Time.
Gomez
I Love You. That was really fucking funny.
National Building Museum, which sounds like a weird thing for a museum.
Sorry about your toe, but you can use the icepack that broke it to keep the swelling down.
Actually, I am! See, there's even NTodd/Icepak unity in 2008!
How about we care about real things?
NTodd, HilFemWack |
Elitist!
...everybody's doing a brand new dance noooooowwwwww....
We know how you feel about the Clintons.
Terry C, Post-American Liberal | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 12:45 pm | #
I thought maybe I'd been vague.
And yet I was strangely excited, although perhaps I've said too much....
I think it's time for your pudding and pills, Mr Simels.
- Nurse Ratched
How about we care about real things?
NTodd, HilFemWack
It was the ting I hated most about her husband.
It showed a lack of regard for others.
hillary almost broke the glass ceiling for people who have 100 million dollars.
almost.
I wouldn't grudge a politician for being late in L.A. There's the traffic, and also, it's considered impolite to be too punctual.
We know how you feel about the Clintons.
Terry C, Post-American Liberal
I thought maybe I'd been vague.
steve hüssein® simels
Hardly.
Afternoon, everybody. The justification for all this hoopla is lost on me, I gotta say.
.
I Love You. That was really fucking funny.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Was I ever late for a date?
so the "suspend" thing is for hillary to raise money to pay off debts? interesting.
It showed a lack of regard for others.
Indeed, in general it does, but when you're making 67 campaign stops a day, or even dealing with all the meetings in a packed Exec schedules, schedules get out of whack and cascade, just like with airlines.
the clintons are now in the white jeep on the freeway.
It was the thing I hated most about her husband.
It showed a lack of regard for others.
Gomez |
I'd be thrilled if Chimpy NEVER showed up!
Funy story.
Audrey is outside cutting the grass. As all good grass cutters know, before you actually cut the grass, you clean the lawn.
So she goes to clean the yard, and she comes in afterward, and says, "You know what, mom? Sometimes it pays to clean the yard before you cut the grass."
I look at her, puzzled.
And then she holds up a $ 10.00 bill, and says, "I found this on the grass this morning."
We both died laughing.
NTodd, you couldn't burn the place down and collect the insurance money? Might be easier than cleaning it.
This, of course, is premised upon your not being caught
The justification for all this hoopla is lost on me, I gotta say.
24 hour news cycle. Democrats. Must make circus in lieu of bread.
hillary is suspending campaigning to find the other glove
There they are. Let's get ready to rumble.
1 minute warning... for Hillary's speech.
Oh great, Bill appears first.
Indeed, in general it does, but when you're making 67 campaign stops a day, or even dealing with all the meetings in a packed Exec schedules, schedules get out of whack and cascade, just like with airlines.
NTodd, HilFemWack
Shit happens.
t has taken almost £500,000, more than 4,200 hand-laid traps and rodent catchers flown in from New Zealand, but today the small Hebridean island of Canna will be officially declared rat-free.
When the voracious brown rat took hold it threatened precious sea bird colonies and one of its smallest and rarest inhabitants, the Canna mouse. Experts said 10,000 rats had invaded the 4.5 mile-long island.
In 2005 the National Trust for Scotland, the island's owners, with the Royal Zoological Society of Scotland, also evacuated 150 Canna mice - a distinct sub-species of mouse - to prevent them being eaten by rats or dying from poison, rehousing them in Edinburgh zoo.
The last rat was seen in early 2006. The official end of the eradication programme will today be marked by the Scottish environment minister, Michael Russell. "Rats, while being fairly innocuous creatures in their natural environment, can have a devastating impact in a fragile ecosystem such as that of Canna," he said.
Despite its small size, baits had to be laid every 50 to 90 metres on a grid across the island's craggy interior.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
enviro...bitats.scotland
Indeed, in general it does, but when you're making 67 campaign stops a day, or even dealing with all the meetings in a packed Exec schedules, schedules get out of whack and cascade, just like with airlines.
NTodd, HilFemWack
Then you pare it down a little. Being late is worse than not scheduling it.
finally! Hill arriving
I thought all the candidates who drop out actually "suspend" their campaigns for that very reason. They still need to take in money so they can pay off the campaign's debts. Dodd and Edwards did anyway.
Was I ever late for a date?
No. In fact, you were usually waiting on me, and I'm not a senator.
bye for now
Then you pare it down a little. Being late is worse than not scheduling it.
Rather easy for you to say.
It showed a lack of regard for others.
Indeed, in general it does, but when you're making 67 campaign stops a day, or even dealing with all the meetings in a packed Exec schedules, schedules get out of whack and cascade, just like with airlines.
NTodd, HilFemWack
Not to mention all the people you piss off at the previous stop if you zoom right out saying: "Sorry, got another place to go."
It's a no-win situation... politicians are chronically late and that's the way it is.
Will Hillary publicly apologize to Steve Simels? Well, we can only hope.
I don't know if I can watch this. I think I might cry. I was bawling my eyes out when Obama spoke the other night.
Rather easy for you to say.
NTodd, HilFemWack
Really.
Awesome.
She's looking good today. Looks like she got some rest. Good for her.
If you won't support a politician because they run late...
You'll never support a politician.
oh, she's wearing black
See you later, Moonbootica!
Will Hillary publicly apologize to Steve Simels? Well, we can only hope.
gil
"Hillary Clinton regrets the error!"
monica lewinsky speaking after bill and just before jose feliciano
Funny...I don't see Taylor Marsh or Larry Johnson in the crowd.
MSNBC has her oversaturated. she's glowing like she's hit by the Power Cosmic.
oh, she's wearing black
el, whitey, kool aid obamabot | 06.07.08 - 12:51 pm | #
expect bobby kennedy reference in 5,4,3,2,1
Bonjour!
she better be good...
24 hour news cycle. Democrats. Must make circus in lieu of bread.
NTodd, HilFemWack
It's all so hollywood-reaganesque.
.
Okay, that was a good opening line, good tone.
.
Brown and turquoise?
Funny...I don't see Taylor Marsh or Larry Johnson in the crowd.
Zap
Larry's hiding behind a column.
Are you watching this, McStain? Even the losing Dem candidate creates more excitement than you do.
oh jesus. kenny g fronting ac/dc before madeleine albright speaks.
how long will this take?
shit, they're lighting the candles now.
she better be good...
Or what?
anyone timing how long it takes for her to say the word "Obama"?
MSNBC has her oversaturated. she's glowing like she's hit by the Power Cosmic.
Had to switch over to CNN.
MSNBC has her oversaturated. she's glowing like she's hit by the Power Cosmic.
__
no such glow on c-span. It's almost in focus.
Funny...I don't see Taylor Marsh or Larry Johnson in the crowd.
Zap Rowsdower...True Story
The major desperadoes have taken to the hills from whence they plan to launch guerilla attacks on the Democratic campaign.
Brown and turquoise?
Looked black before she got to the podium.
she better be good...
Or what?
Or the American people will finally riot.
monica lewinsky speaking after bill
Oh, for fuck's sake....................
Or what?
Apostate
or she'll look like a sore loser, dammit!
Oh shit...the kid that sold his skateboard story.
how long will this take?
Too long to satisfy you.
anyone timing how long it takes for her to say the word "Obama"?
Too long to satisfy you.
She's doing very, very well.
She looks relieved, happy. Better than she has looked in weeks.
The major desperadoes have taken to the hills from whence they plan to launch guerilla attacks on the Democratic campaign.
Great.
/loses count of concern trolls
Lateness is a bad habit.
In a politician it shows they think they are better and more important than everyone else.
There's no excuse for it.
Too long to satisfy you.
Apostate
so, you're one of the sore loser too
anyone timing how long it takes for her to say the word "Obama"?
plum p,better democrats please | 06.07.08 - 12:53 pm | #
i congratulate my opponent obama bin hussein
Are you watching this, McStain? Even the losing Dem candidate creates more excitement than you do.
Lime Rickey
Hey, the supporters of Obama and Clinton are passionate about their candidates.
No one gives a fuck about McWarLover.
she better be good...
Or what?
Or Larry Johnson will give everyone a haircut.
I think I'm going to cry.
video now of linda tripp chewing slow motion
and she's not wearing black, she's wearing brown!
-fashion ed.
so, you're one of the sore loser too
No. I didn't vote for Clinton.
I'm so glad she's leaving.
camera pans to michael jackson in crowd sitting on llama
Man..C-Span, CNN, MSNBC...it's all like have their own weird color filters. C-Span opted for mint.
Lateness is a bad habit.
It is, but there was the Race for the Cure there today, and she was, in part, waiting for that to get finished. You have to be flexible in life.
Oh noes.
Not the more people voted for me line.
oh no. Voter in the hospice, on death bed, with an American flag in the background.
A tragedy if her deathbed vote didn't count
Larry's hiding behind a column.
Hate to say, but, no, Larry's hiding behind a calumny.
/loses count of concern trolls
Zap Rowsdower...True Story
Yeah, really.
A tragedy if her deathbed vote didn't count
Yeah, why didn't that count?
she is doing a fine job--at least as good as any speech I have seen her deliver.
this all is a perfect set up for transferring this vision to OB.
we will see.
madeleine albright shedding tears of pure coal---
dr. phil leaves grand hall holding hands with wife-
bill enters building wearing sweats holding bag from mcdonalds
and she's not wearing black, she's wearing brown!
__
look plum, it's black. You need to up the saturation on your puter
It's brown on CNN.
I also hate it when I have to rush to make a 9 AM court time and then find out the judge is running late so its a pet peeve.
look plum, it's black. You need to up the saturation on your puter
el
hey! on CNN it's black but on MSNBC it's brown!!!
hillary touches bird made of clay.
it flies.
supporters roar.
Yeah, why didn't that count?
_
It must have been a FL or MI deathbed
Weird...it's brown on close-up and black in any sort of distance shot.
I hope she spends some time bashing McCottageCheese.
MSNBC is calling it a final campaign rally. Something odd about calling it that.
Brown is the new Black.
I'm here and I'll try to keep quiet.
Only a few boos
That always somewhat amuses me today, because if I knew how successful a person could be with a two year degree over a four year degree...I would have NEVER wasted as much time as I did...pursuing a Bachelor of Science.
But back to the thought of "combustion ignition" engines.
Over the course of my studies in the military, I learned basic skills pertaining to mechanics. This would also also include a certain amount of cross-training in electricity science, but at the very beginning...I truly had to have somebody explain the various typed of handtools, metal fasteners, ect ect
Things that anyone who's dad owned a shop, would completely take for granted.
My dad programmed computers, and yea, sure...he worked on his own cars, as well basic chores around the house, but there wasn't any really important work-related skills being inherited.
After failing college, is it any surprise I landed straight into the restaurant business? Some may say it was my alcohol and drug abuse, but those problems only insulated me emotionaly from the lack of confidence I had in my future. It was only later, those problems escalated into something serious, that could have been prevented with just good old fashioned communication from my pasrents...mostly about what was to be expected from me in terms of performance...and what could be truly afforded by their income level/savings.
Had I just been guided by counseling in High School...including that open communication I speak of with my parents...then as an 18-year-old adult participant and first test subject of the Reagan years, for especially these draconian laws of the War on Drugs, I suppose I would never had become so estranged by the time I was 21.
The way I see it, joining the military helped me escape that self-esteem problem. But in reality, my skillls developed maybe not so much from and regimented military training, but actually from a magazine called Hot Rod.
It's brown.
she did it! she said it! HURRAH!
There...we....go!
They're fucking booing?
kudos, Hill "I throw my full support behind him, I ask you all to join me..."
There she goes! endorses and throws her full support behind him.
You rock, Hillary! Thanks.
I hope she spends some time bashing McCottageCheese.
A. Morphous
She and quite a few others.
Only a few boos
Saying "booo-urns."
inexplicable video backdrop closeup of oscar wilde's grave-
hillary supporters hush as she reads from his journal
Yeah, why didn't that count?
Cos she died before election day?
Only a few boos
The Old Man From Scene 24
well behaved crowd. looks promising!
KKKarl Rove tried to smuggle Monica into the hall, but her exposed thong was a dead giveaway.
She is praising him for his strength, determination, grace, and grit!
Good. Now leave.
Only a few boos
They're chanting "O-boo-mah"
There she goes! endorses and throws her full support behind him.
KNEW she WOULD.
anyone timing how long it takes for her to say the word "Obama"?
plum p,better democrats please | 06.07.08 - 12:53 pm | #
Drinking game?
KKKarl Rove tried to smuggle Monica into the hall, but her exposed thong was a dead giveaway.
Why was Rove wearing her thong?
Good. Now leave.
Gomez | 06.07.08 - 1:00 pm |
Whaaaaa. She's getting attention.
In order to counter the popularity of Clinton and Obama,McCain needs to pick a black woman as Vice President..................Where are you Michael Jackson?
Only a few boos
They're going to have to get over it.
Good. Now leave.
Stop it. You know the importance of being gracious.
This must be killing her but she's doing well.
Drinking game?
Gilly Gonzylon
too late now, she said "the words" now.
be back in 4 years
"Our paths have merges and we're all set on the same destination."
No dem is voting for McCain.
There she goes! endorses and throws her full support behind him.
She sucks at burning down the party.
I was told there'd be suicide bombers and cake.
Why was Rove wearing her thong?
Anon, 4th Edition Whitey
He's a sniffer.
They're fucking booing?
Zap Rowsdower...True Story | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 1:00 pm | #
Beats pooing
Stop it. You know the importance of being gracious.
Vicki
NO FIANCE FIGHTING!
bill backstage hustles usher.
I was told there'd be suicide bombers and cake.
The cake was a lie.
she better be good...
Or what?
Or Larry Johnson will give everyone a haircut.
Barry from Alaska 01-20-09 | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 12:55 pm
This is good. She's talking about what's important, so she can keep going like this, as far as I'm concerned.
aw, Chelsea holding back tears
loyal daughter
There's probably some in that crowd that won't be working for Obama. But most of them will be voting for him.
Half a dozen heads just assploded over at NoQuarter.
This is a good speech. Congratulations, Hillary, and thank you for calling out what the issues must be.
Promoting unionization! Yay!
cloud descends and rises above arena with hillary floating above supporters.
jumbotron screen advertises anti-perspirant.
There's just something unseemly about making a concession speech such a big deal.
And I wanted her to be VP.
The way I see it, joining the military helped me escape that self-esteem problem. But in reality, my skillls developed maybe not so much from and regimented military training, but actually from a magazine called Hot Rod.
Sorry, Zippy. Both the military and Hot Rod magazine led you astray.
Sorry, but, you're just plain fucked.
all that patter abouther plotting for 2012 is BS. She cares too much.
Only someone like MITT would do that.
And David Neiwert channels DWD (who has been shouting this sentiment for DECADES!)
Much will be poured out by blabbing talking heads blabbing about Hillary's speech over the next several hours if not days.
And their dirty little secret is that they really aren't any smarter or more insightful than the average person. Most of them are analytical mediocrities (witness their record on the Iraq war and G.W. Bush).
It's now not just a truism that the average commenters at liberal blogs can be just as insightful if not more so -- it's a fact.
If Obama is elected president, you people are going to be very disappointed. He will not change anything! Why, because he doesn't know how!
I didn't support her, but I like her.
She's a good Senator, and would've made a decent President.
Chelsea for president
I woulda preferred it Tuesday night, but this is good.
Extinction to the GOP!
"Our paths have merges and we're all set on the same destination."
No dem is voting for McCain.
Cookie Fleck `08
Any WOMAN who votes for McCain is in serious need of psychiatric help!
Good speech so far.
So, Hillary for SecofState?
Zap: how is day 4 without Zapette?
aw, Chelsea holding back tears
loyal daughter
el, whitey, kool aid obamabot | 06.07.08 - 1:03 pm | #
thank god she's not yawning and playing 'sudoko'
So, Hillary for SecofState?
Biden.
There's just something unseemly about making a concession speech such a big deal.
Uppity white woman!
"Hello...I must be going....."
I didn't support her, but I like her.
She's a good Senator, and would've made a decent President.
Zap Rowsdower...True Story | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 1:04 pm | #
Sharp and tenacious.
It's now not just a truism that the average commenters at liberal blogs can be just as insightful if not more so -- it's a fact.
DWD - S☮S | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 1:03 pm | #
And better looking.
Comment by Bugs blocked.
Ah, the resident racist fuck is here.
Don't you have doors to knock on for the McCain campaign?
You can stop pretending now.
Well, I'm already crying.
Hillary 2012
how is day 4 without Zapette?
Hard.
But I'm listen to a lot more music.
So, Hillary for SecofState?
Ano
i'd prefer Supreme Justice. Imagine her fighting the wingnuts already sitting on the Court... Clinton v Thomas, that's what i want to see!
"if we had a democrat in the white house."
Or if, you know, stood up to Bush....just saying.
There's just something unseemly about making a concession speech such a big deal.
Nah.
So, Hillary for SecofState?
Too hawkish.
What Peterboy said.
And Gomez, this may open up her opportunity for V.P., if she wants it.
I suspect she wants to right the wrongs of this Republican administration, more. She just said as much.
This is turning into a substantial speech.
But I'm listen to a lot more music.
Zap Rowsdower
and you have us, of course
I'm fine with the big concession speech. Anything that gets a Democrat on TV screens is good by me.
One Republican elected in November 2008 is one too many.
So, Hillary for SecofState?
Biden.
Zap Rowsdower...True Story
Kerry.
Teresa would be quite an asset there.
Biden.
Zap Rowsdower...True Story | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 1:04 pm | #
He'll have to get permission from MNBA
Chelsea for Mrs. Fox
hill for scotus -- webb for veep
she said YES WE CAN!
good for her
Yes We Can!
Sí se puede!!!
So, Hillary for SecofState?
__
Health, education and Welfare
Obama, the mistake in 2008!
She really has mammothly improved as a speaker. Her delivery, gestures, expressions seem so much lest stilted and artificial.
It's a terrific speech.
.
With this concession we can finally settle down to undistracted,unrestrained McCain bashing.
i'm bawling my eyes out over a concession speech.
next i'm going to shine mark penn's shoes
More cheers for Obama. This is good.
hill for scotus -- webb for veep
tonktonk
and Edwards as GA!
So, Hillary for SecofState?
Biden.
Too hawkish.
Will McCain provide boiled hot water for the event?
She's doing and saying ALL the right things in support of Barack Obama.
Very moving.
Camelot, I'm there with you.
Bugs, the mistake in '08
fixed your typo
The Obama people have to be very happy and very grateful for this speech so far.
...now bash McCain some.
Yes We Can!... What?
Webb was on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me today.
See, he's reaching out, people!
I think Hillary would make a kickass AG.
and you have us, of course
Yes...I've spent a lot more time here since she left.
Of course, Atrios and Spocko are right across town right now, but since my folks are coming over, I can't go.
wow, she's having a rally for Obama!
mccain is so toast.
Yes We Can!... What?
Bugs
Make the GOP extinct. And make trolls like you wail and sputter.
Will McCain provide boiled hot water for the event?
Gilly Gonzylon | 06.07.08 - 1:07 pm | #
Oh god, now he's boiling babies for cheney!
The way I see it, joining the military helped me escape that self-esteem problem.
"Because it makes me feel so powerful, killing these non-christian brown folks!"
With this concession we can finally settle down to undistracted,unrestrained McCain bashing.
nottin bob
McCain: I was for immigration reform before I was against it.
I was for the veterans until I was against them.
I was against the tax cuts until I was for them.
Call him Maverick, 'cause anyone who fails to toe the line one time out of twelve is a maverick.
Hope for what and change what?...Waiting...
mccain is so toast.
nona
I love the smell of burnt toast during an election year!
Afternoon, all!
A kickass speech!
Well, good for Hillary for repeating over and over her support for Obama. She is doing some wonderful fence-mending.
That's not to say I didn't learn anything from the military.
But you would be surprised how much your hobbies drive you to creation.
Hot Rodding is an Engine of Invention.
The same goes for me these days when it comes to guitars and amps and whatnot.
I understand Electrical Motor Controllers (and industrial applications with other components as well)...are my professional weak spot, so as I learn about something I really care about...it keeps my mind open to the other thing I professionally need to understand, in my current occupation and field.
So even though I've really no interest in Hot Rods at the moment, or the past ten years let's say...I've been learning a lot about practical electronics/electrical maintenance. This is because I've shifted hobbies, get it?
I haven't really forgotten anything mechanical related...whether that be fluid dynamics, statics, dynamics, materials, thermodynamics, or even chemistry/physics/calculus...it just means I've put those subjects (engineering disciplines) away for the time being.
So this brings me back to the combustion ignition engine and the University of California at Berkeley.
Boiled Hot Water!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9...h?
v=9DqR7zis99I
I think Hillary would make a kickass AG.
Cookie Fleck `08
Edwards for AG.
So, Hillary for SecofState?
Biden.
Zap Rowsdower...True Story | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 1:04 pm | #
No.No.No.No.No.
And No.No.No.No. to Sam fucking Nunn.
Biden would be better at it than the current SecState, but he's not really a good choice.
Hell, he might as well offer it to Holbrooke.
fuck off bugs.
How will Russert & Tweety et al find anything wrong with this?
this is good. the crowd is good. Merci Hillary.
Well, good for Hillary for repeating over and over her support for Obama. She is doing some wonderful fence-mending.
Word. This is a very good speech.
Yes We Can!... What?
Bugs
You can fuck off and die, racist.
Webb was on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me today.
I heard them introduce him, but didn't get to hear his segment. Was he funny? He always seems pretty stern.
OK. Its not a bad speech.
what's the argument against her for supreme court? i've seen that thrown out a few times...
There is nothing Tweety and Russert can say.
This speech touches it all.
Very, very remarkable and gracious.
How will Russert & Tweety et al find anything wrong with this?
They, like simels, believe the worst shit about Clinton. So they'll find a way.
With this concession we can finally settle down to undistracted,unrestrained McCain bashing.
Few things I love more than bashing the right.
This is her best speech yet.
what's the argument against her for supreme court? i've seen that thrown out a few times...
Policy wonk, not jurist. Better to have her in the Senate, or maybe the Administration.
I heard them introduce him, but didn't get to hear his segment. Was he funny? He always seems pretty stern.
tonktonk | 06.07.08 - 1:10 pm | #
He beat up Mo Rocca.
she wants to be a supreme court justice
You can fuck off and die, racist.
NTodd, HilFemWack |
----------------------------
After you. Idiot!
Olbermann will find something to criticize.
McStain, you should fold your tent now. Nobody likes you because you're old and disrepectful of womankind.
They, like simels, believe the worst shit about Clinton. So they'll find a way.
Apostate
ah, shut up.
what's the argument against her for supreme court? i've seen that thrown out a few times...
nona
Hecate pointed out that her strength is as a policy wonk. She's better creating and implementing policies and initiatives.
Let's put some oomph back in HHS with her at the head!
I predict Zbignew Brzezinski will be in the Obama cabinet
what's the argument against her for supreme court? i've seen that thrown out a few times...
nona
1. That she's too old (although that's crap)
2. Too much of a feminist...ooh scary (and Republicans only)
Yes We Can!... What?
Don't know about the rest of us, but YOU can go fuck yourself.
He beat up Mo Rocca.
Not hard. Helen Thomas or Garrison Keillor can do that.
the only argument against her for supreme court is her age.
goopers pick no one older than 50 and some in their 40s.
Equal pay and equal respect. I can dig that.
And the same for gays.
Did Hecate go?
this is such a good speech. her supporters won't leave all maudlin and sad; they're gonna leave the center excited and ready to work for obama.
She's doing us all proud. I'm actually weeping, and I've been very tough on her.
.
she wants to be a supreme court justice
tonktonk
i'd like that too for her.
Very good bit about no prejudices.
Of course, Atrios and Spocko are right across town right now, but since my folks are coming over, I can't go.
Zap Rowsdower...True Story
I wonder if they were there when Greenwald called out or er... pointed out the Faux News Hit Squad.
This is her best speech yet.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
THIS is the Hillary Clinton I voted for for Senator.
I predict Zbignew Brzezinski will be in the Obama cabinet
Gilly Gonzylon
David Rockefeller will insist on nothing less.
They believe the worst shit about Clinton. So they'll find a way.
Apostate
That's the truth.
"Bottled Hot Water" speech angers babies!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V...h?
v=V_MrwkyGe1w
The Republicans need to be very afraid. Their brand has nothing. It's very exclusive and repressive.
This is something all together superior to that.
Yay! I'm proud today!
Okay, the 'my friends' made me laugh.
Policy wonk, not jurist. Better to have her in the Senate, or maybe the Administration.
Clinton seems to enjoy electoral politics, too. And if she wants to push for single-payer, universal health care, she can't do that on the Supreme Court.
Plus, her nomination would probably not get through the Senate.
CNN (not the Onion)
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/as...d.ap/
index.html
LUCKNOW, India (AP) -- He's a revered Hindu monkey god. And now, he's the chairman of an Indian business school.
Hanuman, the popular god known for his strength and valor, has been named official chairman of the recently opened Sardar Bhagat Singh College of Technology and Management in northern India, a school official said Saturday.
The position comes with an incense-filled office, a desk and a laptop computer. Four chairs will be placed facing the empty seat reserved for the chairman and all visitors must enter the office barefoot, said Vivek Kangdi, the school's vice chairman.
"It is our belief that any job that has the blessings of Lord Hanuman is bound to be a success," said Kangdi.
All Hindus know that Hanuman can lift mountains and leap oceans, but ancient texts make no mention of his business acumen.
"When we were looking for a chairman for our institution, we scanned many big names in the field of technology and management. Ultimately, we settled for Lord Hanuman, as none was bigger than him," Kangdi said.
I so wanted a woman president. Damn.
this is a good speech.
much as i dislike her.
Any WOMAN who votes for McCain is in serious need of psychiatric help!
Terry C, Post-American Liberal | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 1:04 pm
I know quite a few women at work who will gladly vote for McCain, because abortion is evil, gay marriage is icky and bombing scary brown people in the name of Christ is good.
She is covering all the bases here.
Yay! I'm proud today!
She needs to be part of any rapid reposnse team in case the GOP uses any of her anti-Obama quotes from the primary.
i'm sure the msnbc fratpack is majorly disappointed at the lack of snit.
The major desperadoes have taken to the hills from whence they plan to launch guerilla attacks on the Democratic campaign.
heh.
Desperadoes are real mean. That does not apply to republics.
The republics better be worried about their candidate. If one were to describe McCadaver as moribund, one would be vastly understating.
Hillary Clinton is a hell of a lawyer. But as good a lawyer as she is, I'd rather see her as AG than on the SC.
For one thing, I'd like to see us put thirty-five year old left wing radicals on the Court! Hah!
Chesa Boudin, anyone? Rhodes Scholar...
We can launch Ann Coulter into the White House right now.
Sen. Hillary Clinton officially suspended her campaign in a speech today and endoresed Sen. Barack Obama for president.
I didn't predict this. I was wrong.
simels regrets...
I so wanted a woman president. Damn.
Cookie Fleck `08
it will happen.one day
They believe the worst shit about Clinton. So they'll find a way.
Apostate
thank you hadenough
I know quite a few women at work who will gladly vote for McCain, because abortion is evil, gay marriage is icky and bombing scary brown people in the name of Christ is good.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins
There were blacks who defended the South in the Civil War too.
What can you do.
Any doubt Hillary Clinton is a great Democrat now? This speech rocks the hizzouse.
ah, shut up.
No, I don't think I will.
But you have yourself a lovely day!
Olbermann will find something to criticize.
Cookie Fleck `08
Sad, but true.
And,. Bugs, you'd better hurry or you will late for that cross-burning.
I so wanted a woman president. Damn.
Cookie Fleck `08
a woman who voted for the aumf?
Remember folks, Obama is only half black!
We can launch Ann Coulter into the White House right now.
I know a guy who knows a guy with a catapult.
whoever is Ag--edward, clinton--needs to be dedicated to investigating ALL the lawbreaking by the BUSHCO.
Olbermann will find something to criticize.
Who cares?
I so wanted a woman president. Damn.
Cookie Fleck `08
it will happen.one day
plum p,better democrats please
Yes, election 3008.
Any WOMAN who votes for McCain is in serious need of psychiatric help!
__
she set out to give a historic speech. I'll bet the "I'm voting for McCain" sour grapes disappears.
We can launch Ann Coulter into the White House right now.
Right into the White House wall.
From a catapult.
There were blacks who defended the South in the Civil War too.
Alan Keyes is that old?
I didn't predict this. I was wrong.
simels regrets...
Stunt Woman
Not an easy thing to say. Good for you.
We can launch Ann Coulter into the White House right now.
As skank in the fuel tank, maybe.
When i was in college, we analyzed the thermodynamic qualities/quantities of the combustion ignition process and the diesel process.
I looked at this from both a student's perspective, and ironically enough...as almost like a S.A.E. member too.
I really felt I was on the same level as the engineers at Chrysler, Ford, and GM...just because I read enthusiastically Peterson publishing. In a way, it's sorta like the merger of the two year tech degree knowledge...with the four year degree I wrote about earlier.
I could follow my proffessor enough to pass the class, but did i ever really feel like i was at his level? No, not really. to this day, I still don't.
But at least I could follow him.
This is what I know.
Alternative fuels are never going to happen.
I wonder if she is gonna blogwhore at the end of her speech again.
I so wanted a woman president. Damn.
Cookie Fleck `08
it will happen.one day
plum p,better democrats please
WE won't see it.
There have been moments like this from her throughout the campaign. Not enough of them, alas.
But there's a football cliché: how you end a losing season matters for how you start the next one.
Respect is due, and granted.
This is fucking downright inspirational.
Yes, election 3008.
She'll be a damn sight better than the head of richard nixon.
But you have yourself a lovely day!
Apostate
talking in the back of an atriot that isn't here isn't classy. If you want to bitch monsieur Simels, wait 'til he's here to defend himself. That's just a decent thing to do.
Don't go there.
I think Hillary is getting a little NY.
She is covering all the bases here.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
every moment spent looking back keeps us from moving forward. Nice.
We need the holding hands together over their heads visual.
We can launch Ann Coulter into the White House right now.
I know a guy who knows a guy with a catapult.
__
I was thinking more the outer space reference.
I so wanted a woman president. Damn.
I wanted a 35 year old Zappa fan.
Time to move on, as they say. We have an election coming up.
WE won't see it.
Terry C
i don't beleive that.
How many people are watching this speech as compared to the night when it would've mattered? Good speech... should've been done the other night.
very gracious concession speech.
michael jackson in arena looks puzzled.
he thought it was a concession 'stand'
I'll bet the "I'm voting for McCain" sour grapes disappears.
el, whitey, kool aid obamabot
I always thought that was bullshit anyway.
Credited by the GOP-fellating MSM.
Any WOMAN who votes for McCain is in serious need of psychiatric help!
That's crap. People can disagree with you without being crazy.
WE won't see it.
Terry C
i don't beleive that.
plum p,better democrats please
Really. Whoever thought we'd see what we're seeing now?
I knew she would do this, I just hoped it would have been Tuesday, but maybe I was wrong about that.
It's well received toda, that's for sure.
God Bless You, Hillary, and may karma shower you with greatness.
and a roughly $750 billion increase in the revenues of the major oil exporting economies.
I'm sure they'll put it to good use.
Ensuring adequate toilet paper rolls in airport men's room stalls, unlimited text-messaging for congressional pages, think-tanks devoted to generating wedge issues, stuff like that.
She is covering all the bases here.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Ooo. Sports analogy. Cool.
*SPROING*
This is John McCain's only chance to become president. You idiots inflicting Obama on us true democrats!
Remember folks, Obama is only half black!
Bugs
and you're not human!
Hot Rodding is an Engine of Invention.
Uh, no. It's simply the exercise of variations on chemical/physical theories in existence for nearly 300 years. Most everything related to hot rodding is directly associated with engineering dynamics and the perfect gas law, all made understandable to the high school student with a car.
Do you really want to know the secrets of that universe, my friend?
Read The Design and Tuning of Competition Engines, 5th ed. (not 6th), and then read it again, and then again, and then put the principles into practice.
And, then get back to me, and I'll explain it all.
How many people are watching this speech as compared to the night when it would've mattered? Good speech... should've been done the other night.
It's a footnote now. This speech is good enough. Tuesday was a weird moment, geared to begin the braking process you are seeing now.
talking in the back of an atriot that isn't here isn't classy. If you want to bitch monsieur Simels, wait 'til he's here to defend himself. That's just a decent thing to do.
Scroll up. Simels posted in this thread.
I knew she would do this, I just hoped it would have been Tuesday, but maybe I was wrong about that
With reflection, I've realized that was asking a helluva lot.
For the last 2 years, this run has been her life. Takes a little time to let reality sink in.
I know quite a few women at work who will gladly vote for McCain, because abortion is evil, gay marriage is icky and bombing scary brown people in the name of Christ is good.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins
There were blacks who defended the South in the Civil War too.
What can you do.
Gummo | 06.07.08 - 1:14 pm
I know these people, and most of them I like, in many cases quite a lot, but the hatred of Islam and all things Democratic, is sad and perplexing.
Olbermann will find something to criticize.
The only complaint anyone could have would be that she wasn't consistently this best-a-candidate-can be all along.
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every moment spent looking back keeps us from moving forward. Nice.
tonktonk
Tedious troolie platitudes.
Join forces with Obama.. that's it.. yeah baby...
Gomez: Detroit may have won, but that Penguins win in the third overtime is the story of the playoffs!
Bugs wants to deliver Bottled Hot Water to Dehydrated Babies! LMAO
CREATED, not credited.
Somebody talking to me?
"The impact of high oil prices is already causing a huge shortfall in sales taxes which will lead to sharp cutbacks in state and local govt services."
Going broke won't take long at this rate.
Great speech, Senator Clinton. Thank you so much. We've gotta get the crooks out. Fabulous and best to you Hillary.
Scroll up. Simels posted in this thread.
Apostate
but he ain't here now, is he?
Somebody talking to me?
steve hussein simels
monsieur Simels! someone was bitchng you in your back. i hate that.
Gomez: Detroit may have won, but that Penguins win in the third overtime is the story of the playoffs!
plum p,better democrats please
*sob* *sniff*
Hillary is condescending to Obama, but she has no choice. You nutcases would pillory her, if she didn't!
Hillary 2012!
Hell, I'm inclined to send Hillary some turkee just to do my part to relieve her debt.
This speech is great.
/Crying
a gracious concession speech doesn't change any realities at all.
it's just smart
Hasn't god already over-blessed America?
Very very good speech.
I know quite a few women at work who will gladly vote for McCain, because abortion is evil, gay marriage is icky and bombing scary brown people in the name of Christ is good.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins
Their men folk PERMIT them to VOTE???
Wow!
(Small minority.)
great political speech.
What's that song?
The closing riff is well pointed: Hillary's supporters have already been part of something remarkable, and that doesn't have to stop now.
Hasn't god already over-blessed America?
__
unfortunately, we have to beg him now
Whatever bad thing anyone said about Simels, he probably deserved it.
holy shit orange lights on pillars.
what a building.
Boy I'm getting sick of Keith Olbermann.
I knew she would do this, I just hoped it would have been Tuesday, but maybe I was wrong about that
I don't think anyone expected this kind of nobility and grace within 24 hours of losing the nomination.
It's just that McCauliffe introducing her as the next president and some of her own remarks were way over the top.
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Yay for Hillary!
'god bless amerika' = verbal flag pin
Olbermann will find something to criticize.
The only complaint anyone could have would be that she wasn't consistently this best-a-candidate-can be all along.
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Sparkle Plenty | 06.07.08 - 1:19 pm |
I am critical of the speech because she didn't ask the FSM to bless the US.
Hilary for vice president! It must happen.
Great speech, Senator Clinton. Thank you so much. We've gotta get the crooks out. Fabulous and best to you Hillary.
ErinPDX |
Senator Clinton, ya done us proud!
Gomez: Detroit may have won, but that Penguins win in the third overtime is the story of the playoffs!
plum p,better democrats please |
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You are plum crazy!
What's that song?
Sounds Springsteen-y? The Rising?
i can just see ko watching his little stop watch to see how long it was before hillary mentioned barack obama.
For what it's worth, I think the Supreme Court would be a good place for her.
I'd prefer her wing of the party otherwise marginalized, but the Court sounds like a good idea to me.
No way she wouldn't be confirmed.
Bugs wants to deliver Bottled Hot Water to Dehydrated Babies! LMAO
Bugs dines on Rehydrated Hot Babies, yum yum yum.
The fuck.
Boy I'm getting sick of Keith Olbermann.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants
You and me both.
And now he's saying her exhortation to the crowd wasn't strong enough. Fuck him.
How many people are watching this speech as compared to the night when it would've mattered? Good speech... should've been done the other night.
She did exactly what she needed at exactly the right time. Get over it.
OK, that was a damned good speech. It took guts, too.
For the last 2 years, this run has been her life. Takes a little time to let reality sink in.
Gummo
Absolutely right. Thanks, Gummo.
How will Russert & Tweety et al find anything wrong with this?
They, like simels, believe the worst shit about Clinton. So they'll find a way.
That's was my "bitchng you in your back" that outraged plum p,better democrats please.
But you were here anyway, simels, so you saw it.
Wow. Olbermann really is being an asshole. Tweety's not much better but sure not as bad.
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Christ. Olbermann is a buzzkill.
Yes, Olberman is nit-picking. It's a sad day when Tweety talks sense to him.
Boy I'm getting sick of Keith Olbermann.
Let's count the number of times he makes a snide comment.
My youngest just graduated HS this morning.
The ceremony was held in the football stadium. Temps in the low 90's and the dew point in the 80's.
I imagine I lost 5 pounds of water just sitting. When we got home, I felt like I had run a marathon.
I don't think anyone expected this kind of nobility and grace within 24 hours of losing the nomination.
I did.
I don't think anyone expected this kind of nobility and grace within 24 hours of losing the nomination.
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Sparkle Plenty | 06.07.08 - 1:22 pm | #
Not to be too cynical, but getting $20 mill paid off helps.
*sob* *sniff*
Gomez
they're a young team with plenty of good years in front of them. Super Mario is a good owner. The future is bright!
obama/clinton in '08
clinton/webb in '12
Keith: Was she strong enough in urging her supporters to support Obama?
Yes. Come on Keith. (rolls eyes)
We can launch Ann Coulter into the White House right now.
Well said. She fully endorsed him.
She did a great job.
Gomez: Detroit may have won, but that Penguins win in the third overtime is the story of the playoffs!
plum p,better democrats please |
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You are plum crazy!
Bugs
I KNEW IT!!! I KNEW THE TROLLS WERE FOR THE RED WINGS!!!!!!
Now she moves to the left?
Better late than never.
Big changes coming, bugsy, big changes. If you don't think that the smashing of the glass ceiling for women and minorities isn't in itself a huge change, then there is no hope for you ever learning anything. Your racism is all you have, and it is no longer acceptable.
I imagine I lost 5 pounds of water just sitting. When we got home, I felt like I had run a marathon.
billy b | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 1:23 pm | #
Is that Bottled Hot Water?
It's just that McCauliffe introducing her as the next president and some of her own remarks were way over the top.
He meant the next next president.
Hillary is condescending to Obama
__
sigh
did you mean "conciliatory?" or what? get a thesaurus if you don't understand the language
I don't think anyone expected this kind of nobility and grace within 24 hours of losing the nomination.
Well, the media did and you know how everyone follows it.
Wow. Olbermann really is being an asshole. Tweety's not much better but sure not as bad.
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Sparkle Plenty
I rarely watch Countdown anymore.
It's almost as if Olbermann got called on the carpet and told he was on the wrong side.
congrats billy b.
And to your daughter as well.
Cake?
But you were here anyway, simels, so you saw it.
Apostate,3Anapests+a Spondee | 06.07.08 - 1:23 pm | #
Actually, I was off having lunch.
That's crap. People can disagree with you without being crazy.
Apostate,3Anapests+a Spondee | 06.07.08 - 1:18 pm | #
Not about McBomb.
Olbermann isn't that bad. He's just devil's advocating a bit, I think.
hillary supporters decide to focus on keith obermann
oh brother
Actually, I was off having lunch.
steve hussein simels | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 1:25 pm | #
What's your favorite lunch product?
Detroit may have won, but that Penguins win in the third overtime is the story of the playoffs!
Thank you for that great point.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/20...6/7/123553/
4534
great story on the Clinton's speech
It's says everything about what afuckingasshole you are that could be bothered.
If Obama loses it is because of assholes like you
congratulations, Billy B.
Actually, I was off having lunch.
steve hussein simels | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 1:25 pm | #
apostate/hadenough couldn't get you out of his mind
This speech is great.
/Crying
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
same here
:standing ovation:
Congratulations to you and the kid, BillyB
There's some very real problems with scientific opinion right now.
As a country we've come to realization our oil needs, inherently are tied to the religious-ethos problems of the Middle-East.
We can as a country, develop alternative solutions...but we cannot develop an alternative platform for the combustion ignition process.
It's just not going to happen.
There are too many factors to take into account.
How will a new type of energy conversion process be supported by technical expertise? How will this new technology be trained to a new generation of workers?
How much maintenance will handled in these new hybrids by the consumer?
Uh Keith...stop putting conspiracies in hillary's head.
---->
Now that Hillary is out, Simels can go back to bashing Bowie full time.
I'm very, very proud of Hillary today.
"Yes, We Can."
Russert thinks the speech was personal, poignant and politically powerful for Obama.
I KNEW IT!!! I KNEW THE TROLLS WERE FOR THE RED WINGS!!!!!!
Gomez
hey! i like the Wings too! Even if they are a swedish team!
you can't be mad too long at one of the Original Six teams. It's not polite to the sport
Now HRC and Obama need to stroll down 5th Ave. tomorrow.
The fractures between the Obama camp and the Clinton camp will never heal. Chris Wallace just reiterated this one crystal clear fact, the Democrats are hopelessly divided.
they're a young team with plenty of good years in front of them. Super Mario is a good owner. The future is bright!
plum p,better democrats please | 06.07.08 - 1:24 pm | #
mario didn't look at his wife in the box once (that i saw)
Actually, I was off having lunch.
So now you've seen the post.
heard the speech, then turned off the TV as soon as KO called it "an attempt" at rallying her supporters for OB.
How the hell could she have been any more adamant that she and her supporters should get behind Obama? Sometimes I think that even people like Keith don't have any real idea what they want.
I believe that this was the speech of her career.
She took the opportunity and learned from Obama and taught some damn history.
If this election did nothing else, it hammered the last nail in the coffin of the DLC - I suspect that we will see some incredible things from Hillary now that she's free from those self-imposed shackles.
Happy weekend.
Now that Hillary is out, Simels can go back to bashing Bowie full time.
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 1:27 pm | #
Nah, I'm done for the weekend.
It's almost as if Olbermann got called on the carpet and told he was on the wrong side.
Terry C, Post-American Liberal
I used to be a regular Countdown viewer and did see hints of, if not outright misogyny, a little chauvinistic attitude toward women. I just chose to ignore it because he was so good at taking down GWB every night.
Hillary is condescending to Obama
__
sigh
did you mean "conciliatory?" or what? get a thesaurus if you don't understand the language
el, whitey, kool aid obamabot
"0.1 percent inflation"-helicopter ben
That was a damn good speech. I might even throw some turkee her way to help with the debt.
These are very serious considerations for anyone pursuing electrically powered vehicles, whether it be a hybrid or straight forward battery bank.
Placing such a heavy interest in ethanol, seems to me...to just be a little too politically convenient in the Bush years.
There's no margins, that the words "alternative fuels" don't themselves, come up with strict numbers in the end.
And those numbers don't add up to what our country's needs are, regardless of emissions protocols.
You can't just drive GM into bankruptcy, then bring in foreign buyers, who in the end...simply wanted our R&D before they bankrupted the domestic factory infrastructure and workers.
You can't just say being green...is going to be the solution.
You have to...as Hilliary once said...be a Solution Specialist.
An Engineer.
apostate/hadenough couldn't get you out of his mind
t.r. mccoy
ah, that who "it" is. now it makes sense...
Zippy from Akron | 06.07.08 - 1:27 pm | #
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y...h?
v=YIgOn1kRw5s
apostate/hadenough couldn't get you out of his mind
I'm not hadenough. But you have yourself a wonderful day!
Is that Bottled Hot Water?
Gilly Gonzylon
I actually felt like I was taking a tepid sponge bath the whole time.
When we got there at 9:30 it was foggy. As we sat, the fog burned off and it really heated up.
Now you people are agreeing with me about Olberman. What took you so long?
So now you've seen the post.
Apostate,3Anapests+a Spondee | 06.07.08 - 1:28 pm | #
Is there a point I'm missing?
Can somone warn all the sexist, mysogynistic, asses, "look out, here we come! Step aside."
Chris Wallace just reiterated this one crystal clear fact, the Democrats are hopelessly divided.
I bet FOX Noise is shitting their pants. This was speech was a grand slam. She nailed everything she had to; hit it out of the park, actually.
We can as a country, develop alternative solutions...but we cannot develop an alternative platform for the combustion ignition process.
It's just not going to happen.
There are too many factors to take into account.
Okay, I think you're right. Now, why?
I used to be a regular Countdown viewer and did see hints of, if not outright misogyny, a little chauvinistic attitude toward women. I just chose to ignore it because he was so good at taking down GWB every night.
Cookie Fleck `08
He Man Woman Haters' Club.
I can't stand men like that!
heard the speech, then turned off the TV as soon as KO called it "an attempt" at rallying her supporters for OB.
peterboy | 06.07.08 - 1:28 pm | #
okay, my apology.
i thought the hillary supporters were imagining what he WOULD say
Gasoline in Early 2000 (before the goldfish in chief and friends had a chance to substantially mess with the prices) was $1.36 per gallon
And spot oil cost about $30 dollars per barrel.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/
oil_g...enate022400.htm
I'm still trying to find more precise (time/price wise) data but with only a quick search this is what I found.
Stop fucking psychoanalyzing everything (this includes talking heads)
This was as good a speech as the Obama Campaign could have hoped for -- it was a classy speech and a credit to Clinton.
"fixed news"--
give credit where credit is due.
For what it's worth, after she vouched for Obama at AIPAC, I knew she wasn't going to be the spoiler I fretted about.
She did good today.
This was as good a speech as the Obama Campaign could have hoped for -- it was a classy speech and a credit to Clinton.
The process played out just fine, didn't it?
It's just not going to happen.
There are too many factors to take into account.
Fuck you. We can do anything we set our minds to.
Is there a point I'm missing?
Not that I can tell. plum p was concerned that you hadn't seen it.
I bet FOX Noise is shitting their pants.
That's what Chris Wallace actually just reiterated.
I'm not hadenough. But you have yourself a wonderful day!
Apostate,3Anapests+a Spondee | 06.07.08 - 1:29 pm | #
of course not.
Your goose is cooked, McStain.
Apologize to the women of America if you expect to win at least one state.
I believe that this was the speech of her career.
Yep. Beautiful.
Chris Wallace just reiterated this one crystal clear fact, the Democrats are hopelessly divided.
He didn't, did he?
Tweets think the speech was professional and splendid.
congrats billy b.
And to your daughter as well.
cake?
Thanks, HBK!!!
This one was my son. My daughter was there, tho. She graduated 7 years ago at the same place. It was almost as hot that day also.
peterboy - Thanks.
We call this the miracle graduation because he graduated without paying a bit of attention.
Any WOMAN who votes for McCain is in serious need of psychiatric help!
That's crap. People can disagree with you without being crazy.
Apostate,3Anapests+a Spondee |
Does it give you pleasure to be so fucking nasty to the members of this community?
From the NYT: "he" is Barack.
In one telling example, he is moving to hire Aaron Pickrell, the chief political strategist of Gov. Ted Strickland of Ohio — who helped steer Mrs. Clinton to victory in that state’s primary — to run his effort against Mr. McCain there. In another, aides said, he has tapped Dan Carroll, an opposition researcher who gained fame digging up information on the records of opponents for Bill Clinton in 1992, to help gather information about Mr. McCain. That is the latest evidence that for all the talk on both sides about a new kind of politics, the general election campaign is likely to be bloody.
Bring it on, %$#@! GOP.
I bet FOX Noise is shitting their pants. This was speech was a grand slam. She nailed everything she had to; hit it out of the park, actually.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
You took the words right off my fingers, Vicki! When I saw that troll drool, I laughed & laughed!
For what it's worth, after she vouched for Obama at AIPAC, I knew she wasn't going to be the spoiler I fretted about.
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well that says it all about the *actual* reality of all this doesn' it?
t's almost as if Olbermann got called on the carpet and told he was on the wrong side.
Terry C, Post-American Liberal
I think the Clinton machine overplayed its hand over the pimpin' Chelsey remark, and for better or worse people got permanently ticked off.
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She did good today.
steve hussein simels
And you, sir, are a real mensch.
Does it give you pleasure to be so fucking nasty to the members of this community?
It's not nasty to say that someone can disagree with you without being crazy.
And I get as much pleasure out of this place as, I guess, other people do.
The pundits are sad today. They won't have Hillary to kick anymore. Now they have Obama!
I think the Clinton machine overplayed its hand over the pimpin' Chelsey remark, and for better or worse people got permanently ticked off.
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Sparkle Plenty | 06.07.08 - 1:32 pm | #
bill clinton (a republican i am not fond of) should have kicked the living shit out of whoever said that a bout his daughter
And by the way, Gummo is 'on notice' as well.
ronjazz : Your racism is all you have, and it is no longer acceptable.
Remember that Hillary said it today, and now we can all say it, in public. This is no longer acceptible.
Congrats to your son, bill b, and you.
best to your family billy b
Loved the part of her speech about breaking the glass, letting in the light. That's where we are right now: let the sunlight kill the racism and sexism. Get those crooks and cockroaches out where we can stomp on them for good.
We call this the miracle graduation because he graduated without paying a bit of attention.
billy b | Homepage | 06.07.08 - 1:31 pm | #
Congrats to both of you!!!!
He Man Woman Haters' Club.
I can't stand men like that!
Terry C
i don't beleive that. He seems to really dislike Hillary, but she's not "all women". I still like Keith a whole lot more than anybody else on cable news. His last "special comment" on Hil was totally over the top, i agree. But Keith is not a misogynist in my humble opinion
And by the way, Gummo is 'on notice' as well.
The Kenosha Kid
Oh geez, what did I do now?
Comment by Apostate,3Anapests+a Spondee blocked.
You're getting on my nerves. See ya!
Thanks camelot.
Oh geez, what did I do now?
Your comment at PowerPop. Donna Summers annoying? Buffy St-Marie?
Thanks Erin and swami.
I think the Clinton machine overplayed its hand over the pimpin' Chelsey remark, and for better or worse people got permanently ticked off.
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Sparkle Plenty | 06.07.08 - 1:32 pm | #
That was actually pretty much the only time I thought they had a legit beef with the media. Shuster's an idiot and that was way beyond the pale....
I relish when OB goes to Iraq and tells troops he wants to bring them home.
I think the event will be masterful and his message will be strong and well received.
The DOD is busy now trying to figure out how they can keep him out of Iraq.
Sure there will be some few who will be around questioning why they are leaving "without victory" but winning to them will be getting out with their buddies alive.
Well things are going to change regardless of who wins the election.
The 'American way of doing things" has to change. Even if somehow McCain wins by hook or by crook (theft), we can not afford the same stumblebum and stupid ways. We've gotten by with easy fixes: cheap credit, cheap fuel, tax breaks for the rich, and effectively subsidizing corporations, to the detriment of the populace.
But Keith is not a misogynist in my humble opinion
plum p,better democrats please
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Yes, he does like young girls.
oops billy b.
Congrats to your son then.
Cake anyway?
When Olbermann just said "Candidate Barack Obama," it made me bawl.
We have to win this year. I don't have the money I used to have, but I'll do whatever I can to help.
Writing Obama and local Democratic chapter today, although I'm already carrying their card, even though I don't consider myself a member.
peterboy |
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When is Obama going to bring the troops home. Has he said?
Your comment at PowerPop. Donna Summers annoying? Buffy St-Marie?
The Kenosha Kid
tee hee.
Oh good, I thought it might be something serious.
Keith Olbermann - Worst Person in the World
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from where did this jackass Bugs come?
Another Butler?
But Keith is not a misogynist in my humble opinion
Early on he was supportive of Clinton to the point where I, did not suport her, was saying "give me a break."
Something definitely happened in how the campaign handled the press. And whether childishly or not, the press pushed back.
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l the focus on gas prices has, I think, obscured the fact that this is a major macroeconomic event.
Big deal. We can just print more money.
I still like Keith a whole lot more than anybody else on cable news.
I like him, too. A lot.
We have to win this year. I don't have the money I used to have, but I'll do whatever I can to help.
I gotcha covered. Consider it an early wedding prezzie.
When Olbermann just said "Candidate Barack Obama," it made me bawl.
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You people are sure fast on the sobbing.
That was actually pretty much the only time I thought they had a legit beef with the media. Shuster's an idiot and that was way beyond the pale....
I tend to agree. If the same thing was said about either of the Bush twins the person saying that would have been pilloried and jailed.
She did good today.
steve hussein simels
And you, sir, are a real mensch.
Gummo
Yes, he is.
Donna Summers is good, dammit!
Cake anyway?
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants
Of course!!!!!
I like him, too. A lot.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
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Does he make you bawl too?
That was actually pretty much the only time I thought they had a legit beef with the media. Shuster's an idiot and that was way beyond the pale....
I tend to agree. If the same thing was said about either of the Bush twins the person saying that would have been pilloried and jailed.
billy b
Yes, indeed.
But Keith is not a misogynist in my humble opinion
plum p,better democrats please
I find the idea that to dislike Hillary you have to be a misogynist more than a little irksome.
Although I understand why some might think so, and it goes with the territory, alas.
Also, the DoD claims that each $10 increase per barrel costs the U.S. military an additional $1.3 billion dollars.
But then, freedom isn't free.
From the Obama HQ blog:
Thank You, Senator Clinton
Moments ago, Senator Clinton officially announced her support for Barack Obama. Hillary Clinton made history over the past 16 months -- not just because she has broken barriers, but because she has inspired millions of Americans with her strength, her courage, and her commitment to causes like universal health care that make a difference in the lives of all Americans.
Please take a minute to thank her for her hard work and for supporting this campaign.
Something definitely happened in how the campaign handled the press. And whether childishly or not, the press pushed back.
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Sparkle Plenty
Well, let's not rewrite history, either.
Keith has been an ass at times, but this spring Sen. Clinton and her campaign said some truly horrible things.
Which is why it was so wonderful that she just bowed out with such grace, class and inspiration.
Vicki: have you fixed a date?
I gotcha covered. Consider it an early wedding prezzie.
Awhhh. Thanks!
And fuck you, Bugs, you don't know me and my heart.
Today, as I suspend my campaign, I congratulate him on the victory he has won and the extraordinary race he has run. I endorse him and throw my full support behind him. And I ask all of you to join me in working as hard for Barack Obama as you have for me.
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but what is she 'really' saying?
we have a 'body expert' with us today on the show...
"Big deal. We can just print more money."
Got a big enough wheel barrel?
Is your boss going to give you enough pay raises, to fill it?
Not many people can pull off a plaid suit, but Congressman Meeks can.
I have already had to listen to a woman on the street at a festival this morning tell me this was all FDRs fault, he started it all.
I told her I would rush home take his picture off of my wall and tear down the altar.
Please send me good vibes for this evening; I need all of your strength to get through a retirement party that will have crazy repuke drunks at it.
When is Obama going to bring the troops home. Has he said?
When are you going to report to the local sewage treatment plant and get rendered into dog shit?
"18 Million Cracks" in the Class Ceiling [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
When she said that since we've put 50 women in space it can't be long before we launch a woman into the White House, I remembered a button someone gave me during the Clinton years, "If we can send a man to the moon, why can't we send Bill Clinton?"
Heh. A real wingnut knee-slapper.
Donna Summers is good, dammit!
Damn right!
And even though I don't listen to them much, both Buffy St-Marie and Joan Baez deserve a lot of respect for their work and their politics back in the day.
and steve hüssein® simels is not a hater of women!
meow
May I point out that msnbc has only male bobbleheads again? Woman gets that far for president and they give us the mens. Fuck that shit.
And whether childishly or not, the press pushed back.
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Of course they did.
It was against a Democrat!
When are you going to report to the local sewage treatment plant and get rendered into dog shit?
billy b
That would be mite redundant, no?...
What's that song?
Cookie Fleck `08 | 06.07.08 - 1:22 pm
Sounds Springsteen-y? The Rising?
Anon, 4th Edition Whitey | 06.07.08 - 1:23 pm
John Mellencampish? Tom Pettyish?
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K-Lo manages to take an inspirational turn of phrase and turn it into a Clinton assassination joke. Classy.
"18 Million Cracks" in the Class Ceiling [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
I can't fathom the self-loathing it took this woman to write that.
Does he make you bawl too?
Bugs | 06.07.08 - 1:39 pm | #
Just wondering -- have you ever actually had a conversation with a woman that didn't first involve you giving her your credit card number?
camelot,
a retirement party--then you get to say whatever you want.
It is TRUTH telling time.
The Congress was cockeyed in passing that "We're Going to Sue Your Ass" law. Asia Rising is controlling demand and it has issued a communique: "All your Oil are Belong to Us". You can't take 'em to court in Peoria.
Keith has been an ass at times, but this spring Sen. Clinton and her campaign said some truly horrible things.
Gummo |
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Like what? Explain what those horrible things were?
May I point out that msnbc has only male bobbleheads again? Woman gets that far for president and they give us the mens. Fuck that shit.
ErinPDX
Thank you!
And even though I don't listen to them much, both Buffy St-Marie and Joan Baez deserve a lot of respect for their work and their politics back in the day.
The Kenosha Kid
Lighten up, Francis.
The topic was annoying voices. I find their voices annoying. No reflection on their lives or politics.
Sheesh.
So now you know, don't you?
I would have backed her.
But she gave Mark Penn $15 million.
Then Mr. Obama raised over $50 million, I believe it was...back in January.
If you want to be at my level...one of the middle class, a true conservative...a man of ideals and self-reliance...
...then it's time to end the southern strategy, and bring back the power of the largest city in the country...
...Chicago.
And if you look at my credentials in the user name, you'll see...this yankee is right around the corner from Mr. Barack Obama's hometown.
But Keith is not a misogynist in my humble opinion
plum p,better democrats please
There are degrees of "women issues," and Keith has his share. The nail in the coffin for me was his interview with DeeDee Myers about the challenges women in politics face--he simply did not get what she was talking about.
I also cringed a few years ago when someone (one of Keith's many enemies he must destroy with his words) accused him of being biased against women, and Keith defended himself by saying he had women actually working on his show. That was almost funny.
You people are sure fast on the sobbing.
Bugs | 06.07.08 - 1:38 pm | #
Please bend over and shove your head up your ass. I know, we usually are asking you to get your head out of your ass, but not this time.
Fuck off. That is all.
peterboy : I relish when OB goes to Iraq and tells troops he wants to bring them home.
I think the event will be masterful and his message will be strong and well received.
The DOD is busy now trying to figure out how they can keep him out of Iraq.
Sure there will be some few who will be around questioning why they are leaving "without victory" but winning to them will be getting out with their buddies alive.
I hadn't though of it before, but yeah, you're right - If/when he goes to Iraq, his speech will, well, change the fucking world.
McCain fucks up again. Kewl.
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thanks, billy b.
I prefer not to deal with the vermin.
David Kaiser over at History Unfolding shows that Bush was channeling Menachem Begin in his speech to the Knesset last month.
Comment by Half-Vote Hannah blocked.
The one who said last night that Roe v. Wade wasn't important.
See ya!
What's Obama's campaign song?
That would be mite redundant, no?...
I wrestled with that conundrum, but just decided to go with it.
Oooh, I like that guy's tie. It's like an alligator meets a circuit board.
Just wondering -- have you ever actually had a conversation with a woman that didn't first involve you giving her your credit card number?
That asshole isn't that classy, it was singles in a g-string
This has been a long time coming. A lot longer back than the Uraguay Round of the GATT treaty...the deflection of repercussions from what lowering interest rates did to us in the 90's...and what NAFTA numbers ultimately proved to most voters in the debate in Cleveland, let alone what Mr. Penn didn't want revealed from the Presidential library.
I'm very proud of Mr. Clinton's accomplishments, in particular his role in bringing about "solutions" to our aging baby boomer problem.
But he wasn't strong enough.
They said...they wanted "strong" in the polls, when Dubya first started.
They haven't seen strong yet.
You are about to witness my End of Days, and I don't prove miracles to anybody.
I just watch the finger of God snuff them out.
I'm ready now for the Democratic Party to all get on board and send a bulldozer straight after McCain!
Been out for a bit. What did I miss?
What's Obama's campaign song?
Entrance: Beautiful Day, U2
Closing: Signed, Sealed, Delivered (I'm Yours), Stevie Wonder
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Lighten up, Francis.
and my name's not Shirley.
Like what? Explain what those horrible things were?
Bugs | 06.07.08 - 1:42 pm | #
Have I mentioned that there are parameciums who find you insufferably obtuse?
i have some food shopping to do.
have a bonne journée, my american firends!
a+
peterboy
Not MY retirement, I am but a mere child.
My sister's retirement with many invitees.
Why is this thing not yet banned when there is abundant precedent? *Abundant*, I tell you.
Fairness dictates blahblahetctetc.
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sheets
Does he make you bawl too?
Bugs
Just wondering -- have you ever actually had a conversation with a woman that didn't first involve you giving her your credit card number?
steve hüssein® simels
Racist mother fucker thinks showing honest emotion is a bad thing.
These trolls are truly pathetic.
Meander--honestly, the DOD and BUSHCO are trying to figure out how they can control his visit.
this will be a very complicated enterprise, as it requires real security AND usually Congressional delegations only go in groups.
very interesting stuff.
But speaking to the troops who are on their fifth tour and stop-loss imprisoned, will be a revealing moment.
it will have some gamble to it, it is certainly not a controlled town hall with tickets handed out by the local chamber.
but their are too many troops who just want out of their and all the careerist West Pointers arent going to tell them what to think and say.
Been out for a bit. What did I miss?
You are pretty funny.
I thought it was very good. Not brilliant, but she's a wonk, not an orator. And I liked the "every moment spent looking back keeps us from moving forward" line and that whole bit myself. That's the kind of talk that resonates with low info voters.
This was the speech I expected on Tuesday and I think the delay is going to rob it of some if its impact, but not much. She did good.
And to add to the fashion critque, bad choice on the outfit. I think a brighter color would added to the tone of the speech. I was trying to decide what color would have worked though. Not yellow or blue. Certainly not pink.Red would have looked terrific but weird subliminal messages in that color. I think a nice rich shade of plum would have worked better.
But that's all nonsense anyway. She did what she had to do and she did it really well. I'm proud of her today and I'm glad to feel good about her again.
and my name's not Shirley.
The Kenosha Kid
i have just the right song for you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6...h?
v=6UX0p7uAW2s
thanks, billy b.
I prefer not to deal with the vermin.
bug, you just got an 'evolutionary promotion' to rodent.
I'm sure this excites you to no end, you son of an impacted turd.
There's going to be somebody in office, who will be un-influenced now.
Somebody who will make hard decisions, when people who are in the pockets of the ultra-rich will be willing to call him a "nigger" for the tail that wags the dog.
I will be right behind him...with my middle finger raised high. My other hand might be carrying the union jack.
Those old days are now done. They were done two generations ago...now three.
This is a new day, Charles Black Jr.
This is 2008.
(Don't spend your $15 million all in one place.)
Who is this Zippy person and why is he on a mission to bore the shit out of us?
Rudy, lovely Rudy sheets
Now if you don't mind, I'm going to watch this lightning show outside. This is the Storm. This is Captain Dark Cloud. This is what follows you, not what you follow. When I speak, with all due respect...the heavens do open...Mrs. Clinton.
Are you sure you don't have your leaders backwards?
I change course, when I WANT to.
Rachel was on for like 5 minutes.
But yeah.
Well, I didn't actually cry but I certainly teared. What a tough, tough lady.
And fuck KO.
Yea, I got misty.
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I hope that Obama does not go to Iraq, at all. It's too risky...for us who have banked our hopes for change in him.
Are you sure you don't have your leaders backwards?
I change course, when I WANT to.
Of course, that is your right... but, Zippy, if you don't have a clue what your course is, how can it be that you can tell the rest of us that we have it backwards?
???
When is Obama going to bring the troops home. Has he said?
If only there were a place on the internets where you could find the answer...
Major macro shock, g'won. It's just Mother Nature's way of saying, "You want to bomb Iran, shit-for-brains? Just try it."
I know these people, and most of them I like, in many cases quite a lot, but the hatred of Islam and all things Democratic, is sad and perplexing.
They have these beliefs because people they look up to, their pastors, their political leaders, the editors of the publications they read, have told them over and over and over for forty years that Democrats and Islam threaten the things they care about. They have been told that if gays are allowed to marry, it somehow casts a shadow on the validity of their own marriages. They have been told that Democrats will raise their taxes, spend money like water, teach their children to despise their parents and their parents beliefs, and murder millions of (unborn) children.
Mostly, they feel threatened unless they can believe that someone, somewhere, is In Control. Uncontrolled events, uncontrolled feelings, are threatening. That's what was so scary about the sixties.
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