I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
The Village People again!
Smashed again Hulk?
turdy!
Spooooon!
good morning Moonbats, long time no see.
This is genius. A corporate, for profit Gulag.
Are these people going to leave willingly in January?
anyone else going to washington state caucus's today?
Well, yeah . . . but Obama once experiment with drugs. THAT is important, silly.
(I keep harping on the point but it is worth harping on. The Republicans are evil but the news media ENABLES them. I expect the Republicans to be evil now. I do not expect the news media to enable them. Who is more evil?)
I wonder if these contract torture specialists are even 'required' to be US citizens?
Somebody really ought to point out that whenever these fuckers drape themselves in the flag, it comes away all stained with blood and shit.
I outsource my morality.
Polling indicates the Democratic women will support either candidate
but Democratic men who support Obama say they will vote for McCain
you all must be very proud of yourselves
anyone else going to washington state caucus's today?
pigboy
Yo. Capitol Hill. Seattle Community College, I believe. Should be quite the zoo.
I do not expect the news media to enable them.
That is your first mistake.
Morning, Moonbats.
you all must be very proud of yourselves
Who's "you all"?
Mornin', Hecate.
you all must be very proud of yourselves
Who's "you all"?
NTodd, Fästing Führer
Arizona and Colorado political family.
Somebody really ought to point out that whenever these fuckers drape themselves in the flag, it comes away all stained with blood and shit.
blerb, reefer sad |
It's why they like the all volunteer army - it's someone else's blood and shit!
Stories like this just make me sick, And, then, I suppose Bush can say "we" don't torture. Depends upon what the meaning of "we" is, I guess, eh, George?
Polling indicates the Democratic women will support either candidate
but Democratic men who support Obama say they will vote for McCain
I have real trouble believing this. If is true now, I think that a few months of seeing what McCain really is will change their minds.
Oh.
The writer's strike might be over soon.
Oscars!
Saved!
.Polling indicates the Democratic women will support either candidate
but Democratic men who support Obama say they will vote for McCain
Link it or leave us alone.
I know everyone here knows this, but we hanged Japanese camp commandants for waterboarding at the end of WWII.
And now? Why, it'll getcha the Medal of Freedom!
Jefferson was right: if God is just, this country has much to fear.
you all= the Democratic party males who currently support Obama but say they will vote for McCain in the fall if Clinton is the candidate.
You know who you are.
And I'll those independents who say the choice is between Obama and McCain.
This is an entire class of crazy people who should not be allowed to vote.
I couldn't finish the freakin article. It pisses me off so fuckin bad. The use of 'private' contractors has been a complaint from day one of shrubs occupation. That includes their use for torture like at abu graib. Now I am hearing about private contractors being employed for use right here in river city, USA.
And it makes me even more pissed how shrub finds way around the constitution all the time saying it is okay to torture and break laws just as long as it is not on US soil.
And what gets me even more pissed is how law makers allow it. Reid and Pelosi are a disgrace.
Link it or leave us alone.
blerb, reefer sad
Good heavens, a Traffic fan!
Back to work...
Polling indicates pigs will fly out of my ass when the troll provides evidentiary proof for his trollish assertions.
I know everyone here knows this, but we hanged Japanese camp commandants for waterboarding at the end of WWII.
Yeah, but the dirty Nips deserved it.
The source is CNN Bill Schneider
he just said it.
Meh. I have to get working too, I s'pose. I sure wish I had some reefer to ease me through the tedium of the next 8 hours.
Stories like this just make me sick, And, then, I suppose Bush can say "we" don't torture. Depends upon what the meaning of "we" is, I guess, eh, George?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Check Avedon's link to Charles Pierce at the bottom of the Digby post. Starting at "Anyway..."
http://mediamatters.org/altercat.../
200802080002#3
Yo. Capitol Hill. Seattle Community College, I believe. Should be quite the zoo.
shawk | 02.09.08 - 10:41 am | #
If other states are any kind of indicator it should be. Don'tcha love democracy 
And it makes me even more pissed how shrub finds way around the constitution all the time saying it is okay to torture and break laws just as long as it is not on US soil.
You could have stopped before the "on US soil" modifier.
Polling indicates the Democratic women will support either candidate
but Democratic men who support Obama say they will vote for McCain
you all must be very proud of yourselves
Please. Stop.
CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time - Blogs from CNN.comCNN's Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider says the biggest difference between Obama and Clinton is their support from male voters. In the CNN poll, ...
politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Democratic party males who currently support Obama but say they will vote for McCain in the fall if Clinton is the candidate.
Nora Ephron, is that you?
Polling indicates "media whore" has shit coming out of his mouth, almost completely undigested from the tiem it went into his ears.
The source is CNN Bill Schneider
he just said it.
oh, well, then that makes it true.
You could have stopped before the "on US soil" modifier.
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 10:48 am | #
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I stand corrected... I wish I weren't but you are absolutely correct.
I know everyone here knows this, but we hanged Japanese camp commandants for waterboarding at the end of WWII.
And we hanged Germans who had that "following orders" defense.
Gotta run, everyone have a wonderful day.
The source is CNN Bill Schneider
he just said it.
oh, well, then that makes it true.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
No one could have foreseen a TV pundit making shit up.
I know everyone here knows this, but we hanged Japanese camp commandants for waterboarding at the end of WWII.
And we hanged Germans who had that "following orders" defense.
Something these "private contractors" would do well to remember.
Update on Leslie's meeting with John Conyers and the fast.
Mornin', batz.
I slept in today and it felt sooooooo good.
Then I awoke to see what further bird shit the Imus partisans left at my place.
I know, I know, you're sick of my blogwhores. But this time, if you want some entertainment, I think you'll enjoy.
I wrote about Imus coming back to south Florida and ended up on two Imus-fluffing blogs. Then when I responded, they hit me again.
Wow. They make RedState look like a bunch of Cheeto-eating mama's boys. Oh, yeah ... they are.
and like a good troll, he misquotes the CNN poll, which indicates men identified as "Independents" will break for McCain rather than HRC, whereas Independent men prefer Obama to McCain
good job, troll whore.
Oh, and if you go, please feel free to leave a comment of your own. I so want to respond, but I said I was moving on, and I don't want to give them the satisfaction ...
The source is CNN Bill Schneider
he just said it.
oh, well, then that makes it true.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
No one could have foreseen a TV pundit making shit up.
geor3ge, future farmer
Has anyone done a poll on how many people think pollsters have any friggin' idea what their blabbering about?
At this point why is John Zogby even employable - mostly pretty graphics and charts I presume.
"Polling indicates the Democratic women will support either candidate
but Democratic men who support Obama say they will vote for McCain"
not this one.
AEI schneider can kiss my ass.
From Pax:
Attorney General Michael Mukasey said that he would not investigate torture or warrantless spying, he would not enforce contempt citations, and he would treat Justice Department opinions as providing immunity for crimes.
Grrrrrrrrrrr.
especially the guy who says Florida "handed" the election to Bush, then parenthetically adds "I voted for him." Well, duh.
you all= the Democratic party males who currently support Obama but say they will vote for McCain in the fall if Clinton is the candidate.
You know who you are.
And I'm the one called self-righteous...
"Update on Leslie's meeting with John Conyers and the fast."
i fasted between 1 am and 9 am.
I dunno, more and more I just get the feeling that these people are like the Germans who ran the concentration/death camps. They really cannot afford to have what they have been doing discovered and will do anything to prevent it from happening.
There is an election and it will be the dirtiest, meanest, and most repugnant thing imaginable.
If the Dems manage to win it, then what happens?
"Polling indicates the Democratic women will support either candidate
but Democratic men who support Obama say they will vote for McCain"
That's just rootless.
Had to run out on the health plan discussion below but here's Kuttner's critique of Hillary care
http://www.prospect.org/cs/
artic..._law_with_holes
Why in the world would any rational person who supports Obama decide to go off the deep end and vote for Huggy Bear in the general against Clinton?
Oh, yeah: CDS.
Attorney General Michael Mukasey said that he would not investigate torture or warrantless spying, he would not enforce contempt citations, and he would treat Justice Department opinions as providing immunity for crimes.
Grrrrrrrrrrr.
But hey, he's better than Gonzo!
[/enabling Senators]
That's just rootless.
Heh.
Attorney General Michael Mukasey said that he would not investigate torture or warrantless spying, he would not enforce contempt citations, and he would treat Justice Department opinions as providing immunity for crimes.
Grrrrrrrrrrr.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Recall he was the least controversial of the names on the short list for Gonzales' replacement. Kinda the Unity '08 version of the AG.
afternoon moonbats
If the Dems manage to win it, then what happens?
DWD
Burn their villages and enjoy the lamentations of their women.
If the Dems manage to win it, then what happens?
DWD - Paranoid
Better snacks?
i fasted between 1 am and 9 am.
Baby steps.
From the "some trolls are more stupid than others" file:
The poll, conducted over the three days leading up to Super Tuesday, shows Obama beating McCain by 7 points, 48 percent to 41 percent. Clinton ties McCain at 46 percent.
The difference between the two candidates, according to Time, is where the Independent vote goes: The poll indicates a larger share of those voters will chose to support McCain over Clinton than McCain over Obama.
Exit polls taken from the early primary contests have indicated that both McCain and Obama have strongly benefited from the support of Independents. In combined surveys of the 22 states that voted on Super Tuesday, Obama beat Clinton among Independents by roughly 20 points. McCain, meanwhile, beat rival Mitt Romney among Independents by nearly 15 points on Super Tuesday.
Burn their villages and enjoy the lamentations of their women.
How muffiny is your chest?
A Rasmussen poll in mid-January found McCain running two points behind Clinton and five behind Obama just days before he won in South Carolina.
“McCain has led Clinton in four of the last five polling match-ups conducted by Rasmussen Reports. He has had the edge over Obama in three of the last four polls,” Rasmussen indicated in a write-up about its survey.
The polling data finds Clinton has significant problems among male voters as McCain enjoys a 22-point lead with men. Among women, Clinton leads by three percent. The same gender gap doesn't appear with Obama as McCain leads by eight points among men, five points among women.
If the Dems manage to win it, then what happens?
DWD
Burn their villages and enjoy the lamentations of their women.
JR, kerosene and a match | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 10:56 am | #
GravatarIf the Dems manage to win it, then what happens?
DWD - Paranoid
Better snacks?
Sinfonian, battling Imusians
I, for one, do not believe they will leave without either a fight or a bloody mess.
Viggo in naked knife fight in steam room.
(Watching "Eastern Promises" and a tad freaked at the moment ...)
Obituary: Milton Wolff; worker, soldier, socialist, political activist.
The difference between the two candidates, according to Time, is where the Independent vote goes: The poll indicates a larger share of those voters will chose to support McCain over Clinton than McCain over Obama.
Now that I believe. Completely stupid and irrational, sure, but I believe it.
The difference between the two candidates, according to Time, is where the Independent vote goes
So media whore is wrong in condemning Democratic men?
If the Dems manage to win it, then what happens?
Kumbaya, Kumbaya.
All War Crimes Trials have been taken off the table.
That's just rootless.
Molly Ivors | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 10:55 am | #
I told my wingnut neighbors that I am going to vote for McCain over Obama or Hillary because at last we have a real socialist option.
Burn their villages and enjoy the lamentations of their women.
Didn't the Gropinator say that about Dems?
Why isn't he being recalled, btw? CA is in the shitter.
"Baby steps."
i do what i must. if i keep this up, peace will be at hand.
(Watching "Eastern Promises" and a tad freaked at the moment ...)
Would that I were there to hold your hand, Princess.
How muffiny is your chest?
Molly Ivors
Not very.
I, for one, do not believe they will leave without either a fight or a bloody mess.
DWD - Paranoid
Sorry - trying to be silly.
I agree with you to a point. I think we're edging towards some sort of rhetorical civil war, if we're not already there.
Holy crap. I think Viggo just stabbed this guy in the eye.
This movie is too much for me.
If the Dems manage to win it, then what happens?
DWD
Assassinations.
media whore
are you always this stupid, or just on Saturday mornings?
I dunno, more and more I just get the feeling that these people are like the Germans who ran the concentration/death camps. They really cannot afford to have what they have been doing discovered and will do anything to prevent it from happening.
Some of the most condemning evidence used in the Nuremberg trials was the vast, accurate records the extermination camp managers kept.
They were proud of their work and wanted full credit for their efforts.
Would that I were there to hold your hand, Princess.
NTodd,
Would that you were, as this is really stressing me out, Viggo's nudity notwithstanding.
A legally enforceable cinema-style classification system is to be introduced for video games in an effort to keep children from playing damaging games unsuitable for their age, the Guardian has learned. Under the proposals, it would be illegal for shops to sell classified games to a child below the recommended age.
At present only games showing sex or "gross" violence to humans or animals require age limits. That leaves up to 90% of games on the market , many of which portray weapons, martial arts and extreme combat, free from statutory labelling.
Ministers are also expected to advise parents to keep computers and games consoles away from children's bedrooms as much as possible, and ask them to play games in living rooms or kitchens facing outward so carers can see what is being played.
Ministers are also expected to recommend blocking mechanisms to protect children from seeing unsuitable games, emails or internet sites. Discussions have already been held with internet service providers to see if an agreement on a standardised filter can be reached.
A review of violence and video games has been commissioned by Gordon Brown from the former television psychologist Tanya Byron. She is officially due to report next month, but education and culture ministers have a sense of the report's direction. She has previously said she would examine the current classification system to see if it is confusing for parents.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
techno...es.digitalmedia
I told my wingnut neighbors that I am going to vote for McCain over Obama or Hillary because at last we have a real socialist option.
Why in the world would any rational person who supports Obama decide to go off the deep end and vote for Huggy Bear in the general against Clinton
I persoonally know two people who fall in this category. There is a substantial number of conservatives and Independents who don't like McCain but simply can't stand Hillary. It's irrational yes, but there it is.
A'ight, I'm going to pretend to be productive.
Later.
"The polling data finds Clinton has significant problems among male voters as McCain enjoys a 22-point lead with men."
there ya go. that would be hrc's problem in the general, in a nutsa, er, nustshell.
I'm sorry, but, IMHO, it's too early for polls to matter much. The Republican slime machine, for example, hasn't yet really gone to work on Obama. McCain's famous temper hasn't had time to provide an onscreen meltdown, nor has he yet had a Macca moment when the whole country is focused on elections. (Most people, believe it or not, haven't even begun to really focus on the elections. ) Dean hasn't had a chance to convince Hillary and Obama to run together. It's early days and we need, I hope we learned from last time, to pick the best candidate, not the one that some poll shows will be most "electable." Then, we need to campaign like hell and stand up to the swiftboating early and often.
heh treated myself to some perfume today - Gucci by Gucci
Hecate Johnson is right!!
Contractors=Mercenaries=Murderers
that's how elementary ... it's gonna be,
come on don't fight it cause it's easy
It's so easy
Like takin' candy from a baby Yeah
NTodd treats himself to "perfume" everyday.
Molly, you know that "Conan" borrowed the quote from a guy named Temujin, right?
This movie is too much for me.
It sounds a little intense for a morning movie.
There is a substantial number of conservatives and Independents who don't like McCain but simply can't stand Hillary. It's irrational yes, but there it is.
cahuenga |
The bashing of Hillary Clinton over the last 15 years had to leave scars. It was intense and relentless, precisely to achieve that and create this 'irrational' POV.
It worked at some level. Just how much we'll find out in November if she's the Dem pick.
Those Imus folks said I was gonna be slammed with e-mails.
*crickets*
I love the smell of false bravado in the morning.
"There is a substantial number of conservatives and Independents who don't like McCain but simply can't stand Hillary. "
yup. and a lot of 'em i talked to just don't want to go back to the partisan smearing of the 90's...WHITEWATER, FILEGATE, VINCEFOSTER!!!!!
when i point point out to them that sort of thinking would be punishing hillary for gop craziness, they don't give a shit. they just don't want to live thru it again.
then there are the misogynists....
Iraqi authorities are investigating a case of poisoning at a Baghdad sports club popular with the army in which two children have died and nine people have been taken to hospital. All were reported to have eaten cakes laced with thallium, the toxin that was often used by Saddam's secret police to kill political opponents.
Security officials said it was the first known incident of deliberate thallium poisoning since the fall of the regime.
Police said they had traced the two cakes to a bakery in Baghdad's Adhamiya district. This Sunni Arab stronghold was a bastion for supporters of the late dictator, and more recently a major locus of activity for Sunni extremists.
"This is a disturbing incident," said Mohammed Abbas, a police official. "The use of thallium in this way appears to show that someone in Adhamiya is reviving the techniques of the mukhabarat [the Saddam-era secret police].
"What happens if al-Qaida gets the know-how? We are urgently trying to discover how much thallium is out there and who would know how to utilise it."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/
S...2254956,00.html
“McCain has led Clinton in four of the last five polling match-ups conducted by Rasmussen Reports. He has had the edge over Obama in three of the last four polls,” Rasmussen indicated in a write-up about its survey.
No one could have anticipated that Rasmussen polling would favor the Republican.
If the Dems manage to win it, then what happens?
Universal health insurance. No more occupation of Iraq. American companies return home to stay. Illegal immigrants are no longer exploited. Nationwide public transit. National service plan. Free college. That's the first 100 days.
This movie is too much for me.
It sounds a little intense for a morning movie.
Molly Ivors
And that's just the Saturday morning animated version. You should see it in live action.
"I'm sorry, but, IMHO, it's too early for polls to matter much."
agree.
Ran into a repug coworker yesterday and she was major pissed that her candidate was mccain - cause you know he's a liberal.
oh - and christians are the real oppressed minority. Therefore we needed mittens as our preznit.
It sounds a little intense for a morning movie.
Molly Ivors
It sounds like perfect breakfast "television".
I think that people who poll as "undecided" are full of shit.
This movie is too much for me.
It sounds a little intense for a morning movie.
Watch Sicko instead.
I've seen "Sicko."
I have "Bowling for Columbine" on my DVR. Think I'll watch it today.
Then I might top it off with "Superbad" on InDemand.
Molly, you know that "Conan" borrowed the quote from a guy named Temujin, right?
Thers used it as his yeabook quote. It was betwen that and "What a Long, Strange Trip It's Been."
McCain's famous temper hasn't had time to provide an onscreen meltdown, nor has he yet had a Macca moment when the whole country is focused on elections.
McCain's penchant for hot headedness will be spun as a demonstration of why the terrorists will fear him.
It's all going to be about terrorism.
If there's another terrorist attack in the US before the election, McCain's speech in response will write itself and Clinton/Obama will look like followers! No one's gonna blame him for not 'protecting us'.
Remember one of the sequences in "Sicko" where the late 50-something (maybe early 60-something) couple was forced to move in with their daughter and her family? And the daughter was moving them into what her family was using as a home office? And she was incredibly fucking obnoxious about it, just full of anger at the situation and contempt for her parents?
I wanted to kill that woman. Does she think her parents wanted it that way?
All polls are (at best) is a snapshot in time that indicate trends. If men are a consistent problem for Senator Clinton it should be addressed we shouldn't pretend it doesn't exist.
It doesn't mean she cannot win.
Ed Rendell beat Bob Casey jr without men.
Molly, you know that "Conan" borrowed the quote from a guy named Temujin, right?
Temujin? I thought it was Genghis Khan.
No one could have anticipated that Rasmussen polling would favor the Republican.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
Only poll that matters!
Bushie defined the debate @ the CACA speech yesterday:
... Listen, the stakes in November are high. This is an important election. Prosperity and peace are in the balance. [...]
now who would want peace & prosperity again?
Sinfonian Johnson is right that Hecate Johnson is right!
beside it being the 150th anniversary of the publication of Origin of the Species its also the 90th of giving the women the right to vote
I wonder if wingnuts are aware of this?
If the Dems manage to win it, then what happens?
Ask Peter Boyle. He's the hotshot campaign manager...
"There is a substantial number of conservatives and Independents who don't like McCain but simply can't stand Hillary. It's irrational yes, but there it is.
cahuenga"
And while we are looking at 'there is's lets look at a black dem nominee for president.
in fact, I'm thinking of setting up a web site called "Socialists for McCain" and starting a direct mail campaign aimed at right wingers that will highlight his progressive opinions and lifestyle.
The actual topic of this thread is to depressing for me to even contemplate right now. My god, the crap being done in our names....
And now, Steve's Movie Reviews.
IN BRUGES
Funniest hit-men in Belgium movie ever made.
Seriously -- a real hoot, and highly recommended.
FOOL'S GOLD.
Kate Hudson has smaller boobs than either Matthew McConnaghey or her mother.
VINCE VAUGHAN'S WILD WEST COMEDY TOUR.
Longer than THE THREE TENORS, but with fewer laughs.
I have "Bowling for Columbine" on my DVR. Think I'll watch it today.
Then I might top it off with "Superbad" on InDemand.
Sinfonian, battling Imusians
If Moore had only known that Heston's racist comment about 'diversity' being the cause of America's gun problem he could have clobbered him before he walked off.
And she was incredibly fucking obnoxious about it, just full of anger at the situation and contempt for her parents?
She was very insensitive about it, but she had 4 small children and a husband leaving for Iraq.
Temujin? I thought it was Genghis Khan.
Snow
:fishslap:
"Bowling for Columbine" is my fave Moore film.
If men are a consistent problem for Senator Clinton it should be addressed we shouldn't pretend it doesn't exist.
Mighty big 'if'. One might say, "if you knew how to read, you wouldn't pretend men are a consistent problem for Clinton."
VINCE VAUGHAN'S WILD WEST COMEDY TOUR.
Longer than THE THREE TENORS, but with fewer laughs.
The Three Tenors, of course, was shorter than the Three Amigos, but had MORE laughs...
The Archbishop of Canterbury last night defended his remarks about sharia law and clarified his position amid mounting criticism, saying he was not proposing Islamic law in Britain, nor was he recommending its introduction as a parallel legal system.
Williams, the most senior figure in the Church of England, has faced a barrage of criticism since making the remarks, first in a BBC interview and then in a speech at the Royal Courts of Justice, that the adoption of sharia law in Britain seemed "unavoidable".
According to Lambeth Palace, the archbishop "sought carefully to explore the limits of a unitary and secular legal system in the presence of an increasingly plural (including religiously plural) society and to see how such a unitary system might be able to accommodate religious claims".
His office said Williams had no intention of resigning. His lecture was "well-researched" and involved consultation with legal experts, especially people with knowledge and experience of Jewish and Islamic legal systems.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
religi...2255068,00.html
Happy Hockey Day in Canada!
And she was incredibly fucking obnoxious about it, just full of anger at the situation and contempt for her parents?
I wanted to kill that woman. Does she think her parents wanted it that way?
I need to see that movie. I can tell you, as a parent of an adult, married son, having to move in w/ him and his family would feel so horrible to me, even though I love them and they love me. I would be feeling the whole time like a burden on them and a failure, somehow. It's a big reason why I buy long-term care policies. I just don't want to do that to them if I can help it. I'm sure the parents in the movie felt the same way.
Re: national head to head polls at this point in time.
Dukakis was 17 points ahead of Poppy in July 1988.
Polls may be fun to look at, but, well, they are what they are.
:fishslap:
I know who Temujin is.
Was.
Whatever. That's what made it funny.
Why isn't he being recalled, btw? CA is in the shitter.
res ipsa loquitur
Recall is not on the table!
In this election male voters have been a problem in for Senator Clinton
please provide a reading list for contrary information
"There is a substantial number of conservatives and Independents who don't like McCain but simply can't stand Hillary. "
That's why DEMOCRATIC turn-out is so important. And it's been huge.
"Bowling for Columbine" is my fave Moore film.
res ipsa loquitur |
"Don't you think it's a little bit odd that you're giving away free shotguns
in a bank!?"
Kate Hudson has smaller boobs than either Matthew McConnaghey or her mother.
I. Love. Her.
FOOL'S GOLD.
Kate Hudson has smaller boobs than either Matthew McConnaghey or her mother.
Still, I'd hit it™.
His office said Williams had no intention of resigning. His lecture was "well-researched" and involved consultation with legal experts, especially people with knowledge and experience of Jewish and Islamic legal systems.
Power grasping clerics of several religions agree.
"I've seen "Sicko."
I haven't
I'm sure the parents in the movie felt the same way.
They were miserable. Humiliated. They didn't want the situation, either. The daughter was horrible. Utterly disrespectful.
My parents didn't want to burden me, either. But if they had, you can bet your ass I wouldn't have treated them that way, not even if my husband was about to go to Iraq.
Kate Hudson has smaller boobs than either Matthew McConnaghey or her mother.
And?
Why isn't he being recalled, btw? CA is in the shitter.
He's Republican.
This has been...
FOOL'S GOLD.
Not in a million years.
You're a brave man, Steve.
That's why DEMOCRATIC turn-out is so important. And it's been huge.
dave™© | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 11:13 am | #
I think John Kerry proved that strategy to be not quite enough.
What’s going on here? Does Senator Clinton have a problem with male voters or does Senator Obama simply appeal more to men? A look at the exit polls and latest national polls suggests that the answer is a little bit of both, but the anti-Clinton sentiment is a somewhat larger factor among men. In particular, Hillary Clinton seems to turn off younger and moderate to conservative male Democrats. As many as one-in-five of them say there is no way they will support the former first lady for the nomination
http://themoderatevoice.com/poli...-it-the-female/
I want to see In Bruges but have to either do laundry or shop for food today.
I have 2 frozen pizzas and water in my fridge.
Power grasping clerics of several religions agree.
rootless-e | 02.09.08 - 11:14 am | #
I think this is really about CoE politics, the Sharia thing is just a smokescreen for much deeper issues
its explored more here - they hangeth together
That "South Park" sequence from "Columbine" was superb.
I. Love. Her.
NTodd, Fästing Führer | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 11:14 am |
She's adorable, no question.
I still haven't forgiven her for playing English in THE FOUR FEATHERS, however.
With Heath Ledger, now that I think of it.
On CNN Headline News right now: giant Moose (as opposed to those miniature ones) becoming too friendly with people in Vermont.
Recently seen hanging out at the local Tastee Freeze.
That's why DEMOCRATIC turn-out is so important. And it's been huge.
dave™©
Did you see that thing I put up before -- the McCain won SC with fewer votes that he got when he lost to Bush in 2000?
What’s going on here? Does Senator Clinton have a problem with m--
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An October Pew survey (pdf) found 47 percent of female Democratic voters saying it would be a good thing to elect a female president — among males only 31 percent expressed that view!
Why, though - why do you suppose men don’t think it would be a good thing to elect a female president? That question - why it would be a good thing or a bad thing to elect a female president - does not appear to be covered in last fall’s extensive Pew survey on the primary races in both parties, but isn’t it the question to which we really want the answer?
WTF is Michelle Williams wearing at Heath's funeral? Damn, girl.
Government contracts worth £125bn a year should be withheld from companies that pay women less than the men, a cross-party committee of MPs declares today.
It found that 30 years of equal pay legislation have done little to erode the earnings gap. Full-time women workers, who are clustered into lower-paid occupations, earned 17.2% less than men last year. And part-time female employees earned 35.6% less than their male counterparts.
The committee that scrutinises the Department for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform said the worst discrimination was in the private sector. It urged the government and public authorities to use the leverage of their £125bn purchasing power to make companies show "active commitment to equality".
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/
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Of course, who needs contractors for torture, when you have Mukasey?
Did you see that thing I put up before...
Honey, it's barely 8:00 am here... I haven't even had my coffee.
Be a dear and fetch it for me, willya, sweetheart? Atta girl!
On CNN Headline News right now: giant Moose (as opposed to those miniature ones) becoming too friendly with people in Vermont.
Recently seen hanging out at the local Tastee Freeze.
sdf (Stu), Liberal Liberal |
/whistling aimlessly/
anyone who would vote for McCain needs their head examined. Period
Kate Hudson has smaller boobs than either Matthew McConnaghey or her mother.
The Young and the Breastless....
You think the primaries are nasty? Wait til the election campaign.
OK, like Atrios, I've had about all of the "my candidate is perfect, your candidate will make us lose" nonsense I can take for a while. I'm going to follow Moon's lead and go do some frivolous shopping. Maybe follow steve's advice and see a funny movie. Talk to you lovely Moonbats, sans troll, I hope, later.
the McCain won SC with fewer votes that he got when he lost to Bush in 2000?
Um, a lot of us didn't need to vote for Al Gore, so we crossed over. Open primary, you know.
I think this is really about CoE politics, the Sharia thing is just a smokescreen for much deeper issues
its explored more here - they hangeth together
Moonbootica, Employed | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 11:16 am | #
The article reinforces the theory that parts of the CoE want an ecumenical theocracy
dave,
Turnout has been far higher in Democratic primaries across the country, at anywhere from 50-75% more voters on the D side in some places (and in total numbers for Tuesday).
McCain won South Carolina, for instance, with fewer votes than what he got to lose to Bush in 2000
On "Super Tuesday" this week, McCain was often little better than 35% ish in states where both Romney and Huckabee were viable; as much as Romney, McCain was almost completely not viable in southern states that Huckabee won
As George Will points out, McCain's super Tuesday wins of significance came in states where he can't win in November - Illinois, New York, California... just for starters
In Arizona, his home state, 50% of Republican primary voters... voted for someone else. Hillary Clinton won Arizona with 51%
hmm. Go to the gym or watch "Children of the Corn"?
Be a dear and fetch it for me, willya, sweetheart? Atta girl!
Wow! That's a little disrespectful.
"my candidate is perfect, your candidate will make us lose"
John Gray's latest pap?
A tribunal yesterday awarded a gay youth worker £47,000 compensation after ruling that his appointment to a job had been blocked by the Bishop of Hereford, the Right Rev Anthony Priddis.
John Reaney, 42, from north Wales, told the tribunal he had been interviewed and told he was the best applicant. He was then questioned by the bishop in a two-hour meeting he described as embarrassing and humiliating. Three days later, the bishop telephoned Reaney to say his application had not been successful.
During his evidence, Priddis said he had made clear to Reaney that any person in a committed sexual relationship outside marriage would be turned down for such a key role.
During four days of evidence, Reaney's legal team argued that a heterosexual person would not have been subject to the same level of "intrusive questioning".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/
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I am predicting Huckabee wins Louisiana, Kansas and Washington state tomorrow. And that the media will still claim McCain is the presumptive nominee.
I am serious, BTW.
You think the primaries are nasty? Wait til the election campaign.
You're kidding! Well, I'm sure the message of change and hope will stand up against any of the nasty mean stuff. I mean, it's so pure and nice - it's just GOT to prevail!
I need to see that movie. I can tell you, as a parent of an adult,
married son, having to move in w/ him and his family would feel so
horrible to me, even though I love them and they love me. I would be
feeling the whole time like a burden on them and a failure, somehow.
It's a big reason why I buy long-term care policies. I just don't want
to do that to them if I can help it. I'm sure the parents in the movie
felt the same way.
It's okay, Hecate - you can always move in with me. My long term care policy lets me have a caretaker so it'd be just as easy to do two as one.
hmm. Go to the gym or watch "Children of the Corn"?
watertiger, kodos4prez |
They don't have TVs at your gym?
And unless there is a reckoning, it would be criminally stupid if we are surprised the next time they get their hands on the white house and do it all again. It's what they do
Somebody want to point me to the laws proposed and pushed by Democrats to make sure this never happens? To opposition to AG nominees who won't swear on a stack of Bibles such things ARE illegal and must never happen? Anybody remember "extraordinary rendition" began under Clinton? Somebody want to tell me again the most important difference between Democrats and the GOP is Supreme Court nominees?
Have Hillary or Obama declared these action illegal, immoral, and worthy of the most penetrating investigation and war crimes tribunal? After all, this is the country that spearheaded Nuremberg. Any ideas on what they will do to reverse this horror, other than say it shouldn't have been done?
Feh! A plague on all their houses!
anyone who would vote for McCain needs their head examined. Period
Window Pane |
I pretty much said that to someone at the Super Bowl Party I attended. After being introduced and chatting with some guy for 15 minutes or so, he dropped the bomb that he's voting for McCain in the NJ Primary. I said something out loud like, "are you fucking crazy?"
They don't have TVs at your gym?
they won't change the channel for me.
fucktards.
The Archbishop of Canterbury, a man whose prose is as luxuriant as his beard, might not have anything in common with the heroes of American tough-guy novelist Elmore Leonard beyond a tendency to interrupt his sentences with "Jesus". But it was an Elmore Leonard hero he called to mind in his latest speech: the one in Tishomingo Blues, who earns his living by diving from high platforms into tiny pools of water.
Lambeth Palace, says an insider, has been inundated with racist and Islamophobic abuse since the news of the archbishop's speech broke, and much of the fury and disgust directed at Williams comes from inside the church.
How could one speech have united against him the liberals, the conservatives, most Muslims, most Christians, all secularists, all the political parties, everyone who only read the headlines, and almost everyone who read beyond the headlines of the lecture he gave? Could any common idiot have written it?
There are people at Lambeth Palace who could have told Williams what the headlines were going to say this morning. My understanding is that some of them did, but he thought he knew better.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politi...09/
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OT, but watertiger, Thers, and I went out last night.
they won't change the channel for me.
fucktards.
What has this world come to?
Somebody want to tell me again the most important difference between Democrats and the GOP is Supreme Court nominees?
Yes. Would you like it with fondue chocolate or on the side of head?
McCain's super Tuesday wins of significance came in states where he can't win in November - Illinois, New York, California... just for starters.
Yep.
I have little, if any, fear of McCain.
A Clinton/Obama ticket would CRUSH. Individually, they'd still win, but together--!!!
they won't change the channel for me.
Don't they know who you are?
Haven't they seen the caption contests?
they won't change the channel for me.
fucktards.
watertiger, kodos4prez |
Do they know exactly just WHO you are?
anyone who would vote for McCain needs their head examined. Period
But my TV said he's a maverick!
anyone who would vote for McCain needs their head examined. Period
Window Pane | 02.09.08 - 11:18 am | #
That kind of argument gets nowhere. The fact is we live in America where all sorts of people who vote do not think like one might want them to think. Deal with it. I've had several liberalish Democrats tell me that McCain is decent. If the Democratic electorate spends the next three months divided into groups that are explaining how evil/stupid/ hillary and obama are, then many of these people will be seduced by the very smart media campaign McCain is absolutely sure to run.
watertiger, Thers, and I went out last night.
I am surprisingly unsore from all of the unseemly leaping about. Maybe the yoga helps?
dave,
There's more over at Wolcott.
Every treadmill at my gym has a personal TV, and you can either watch it close-captioned or bring your own headphones.
Not that I'm going this morning.
McCain's penchant for hot headedness will be spun as a demonstration of why the terrorists will fear him.
If there's another terrorist attack in the US before the election, McCain's speech in response will write itself and Clinton/Obama will look like followers! No one's gonna blame him for not 'protecting us'.
Bond, James Bond
And OBL said the US would destroy itself from within. You're right on schedule.
Bond, I wouldn't mind a morning martini, but vodka instead of gin, and I couldn't care less if it's shaken or stirred.
Watertiger? Could you please send me that Polar Bear Baby?
'Enkew.
I am surprisingly unsore from all of the unseemly leaping about. Maybe the yoga helps?
It must. I'm achy, but that could be from sleeping in the car, too.
As many as one-in-five of them say there is no way they will support the former first lady for the nomination
Sorry to feed the troll, who now shall be killfiled, but read that again: "support ... for the nomination." Different than the general, there, pal.
Have fun in killfile.
A Clinton/Obama ticket would CRUSH. Individually, they'd still win, but together--!!!
dave™© | Homepage | 02.09.08 - 11:24 am | #
This is a ploy by hrc to draw support from O. It'll never happen.
Watertiger? Could you please send me that Polar Bear Baby?
'Enkew.
EEEEEEEEEEEEP!
anyone who would vote for McCain needs their head examined.
Well, McCain has certainly emitted enough stinky farts from his mouth that it should not be too hard to make that point to a fair number of people who have thus far bought into his shiny MCM-crafted image.
Good morning, everyone.
My son gave me this link to a cartoon music video about health care pirates. It has a nice refrain "yo-ho, yo-ho, go ahead and die."
And it was Al Gore who told Clinton to allow extraordinary renditions.
ooops - Diplomats have made a humiliating apology to six Pakistani men close to President Pervez Musharraf's ruling elite after they were wrongly arrested at Gatwick on suspicion of terrorist activity, interrogated and held for 21 hours.
The men - relatives or supporters of Chaudhry Shujat Hussain, a Musharraf lieutenant - flew into Gatwick on January 21 from Barcelona to be met by about 20 armed police and Scotland Yard detectives.
The Pakistanis were escorted to a Sussex police station where they were questioned, fingerprinted and photographed. At one point officers considered switching their suits for jail uniforms.
Eight hours later they were informed they were being arrested "on suspicion of operating or planning a terrorist activity", Haaris Elahi, an American citizen who is Hussain's nephew, said at the family mansion in Lahore.
They were asked whether they supported the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, who they thought was responsible for the assassination of Benazir Bhutto, and - most bizarrely - whether they supported Musharraf and his Pakistan Muslim League (Q) party. "I said 'obviously - we are in it'," said Elahi.
His interrogator was interested in his collection of Bollywood and Hollywood movies. "He asked if they contained any training guides, and if I knew how to use explosives," said 25-year-old Elahi. "I got all emotional and teary-eyed. So he said 'Maybe you're the innocent one, maybe it's not you. Maybe it's one of your friends.'"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/
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Today, more than 23,000 representatives of private industry are working quietly with the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security. The members of this rapidly growing group, called InfraGard, receive secret warnings of terrorist threats before the public does -- and, at least on one occasion, before elected officials. In return, they provide information to the government, which alarms the ACLU. But there may be more to it than that. One business executive, who showed me his InfraGard card, told me they have permission to "shoot to kill" in the event of martial law. InfraGard is "a child of the FBI," says Michael Hershman, the chairman of the advisory board of the InfraGard National Members Alliance and CEO of the Fairfax Group, an international consulting firm.
InfraGard started in Cleveland back in 1996, when the private sector there cooperated with the FBI to investigate cyber threats.
"Then the FBI cloned it," says Phyllis Schneck, chairman of the board of directors of the InfraGard National Members Alliance, and the prime mover behind the growth of InfraGard over the last several years.
InfraGard itself is still an FBI operation, with FBI agents in each state overseeing the local InfraGard chapters. (There are now eighty-six of them.) The alliance is a nonprofit organization of private sector InfraGard members.
http://www.alternet.org/rights/76388/
We watched that Spanish movie Talk To Her last night. Pretty good.
Bond, I wouldn't mind a morning martini, but vodka instead of gin, and I couldn't care less if it's shaken or stirred.
sdf (Stu), Liberal Liberal |
I'm throwing the red flag challenge. I want the refs to review the video before I pay up!
:P
DUBAI, Feb 8 (Reuters) - Producer group OPEC may abandon the dollar for pricing oil and adopt the euro but any such switch will "take time", OPEC Secretary-General Abdullah al-Badri was quoted as saying by a weekly magazine.
"Maybe we can price the oil in the euro," the London-based Middle East Economic Digest quoted Badri as saying in an interview. "It can be done, but it will take time."
Reuters obtained an advance copy of the interview which will be published in the London-based magazine's next issue.
"Badri tells MEED ... that the producers' cartel may switch to the euro within a decade to combat the dollar's decline," the magazine said without providing a direct quote about the time frame.
"It took two world wars and more than 50 years for the dollar to become the dominant currency. Now we are seeing another strong currency coming into the [frame], which is the euro," he said.
Iran, at odds with the West over its nuclear programme, and its anti-U.S. ally Venezuela have pressed for OPEC to abandon the dollar and perhaps price oil in a basket of currencies.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m4099...&hd=&size=1&
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I suspect McCain will pick a VP Limbaugh could support which will give him and his dittoheads the cover they need to support the GOP.
Or Limbaugh will adopt the DeLay strategy: let the Dems win and thus hang all the chickens Bush hatched and now coming home to roost on the Dems.
And it was Al Gore who told Clinton to allow extraordinary renditions.
Actually, it was Britney Spears' manager who advised him.
new lively sheets.
Sinfonian has mail.
If there's another terrorist attack in the US before the election, McCain's speech in response will write itself and Clinton/Obama will look like followers! No one's gonna blame him for not 'protecting us'.
Bond, James Bond
We need to get ahead of this. Hammer the pukes for making us less safe. Now.
This is a ploy by hrc to draw support from O. It'll never happen.
It's common sense, and Obama would be an idiot not to take it if it comes to that.
Which, more and more, I'm thinking he is.
hmm. Go to the gym or watch "Children of the Corn"?
watertiger, kodos4prez
Again!?
Heh. There's a good morning movie.
Have fun in killfile.
Beatcha to it!
Digby says "unless there's a reckoning" but how can there be with the SC we have?
I really think this stuff has been planned for a long, long time. Actually, I suspect stuff was in place for an internal coup while Bush pere was in office, and that's part of the reason they went after Clinton so early and so long.
I mean, they admit they turned to "private contractors" right after 9/11. How did they have the mechanisms in place? The "private contractors" to turn to?
I have, at times, devolved into a wild eyed, spit spewing, volcano of guttural, obscenity filled tirades on various threads when I ponder the crimes that we have perpetrated on people all over the world. These often filthy and vituperative explosions are directed, usually, at the broader audience and ends, normally, when I post.....
"WE ARE A NATION OF WAR CRIMINALS"
I do this infrequently on this thread and attribute this to the rarified atmosphere that this thread provides (ignoring of course NTodds obscenity filled tirades).
However, underneath these attempts to control what I consider to be vain and nonproductive explosions, seeths a cauldron of disgust and anger that I fear will sometime in the future explode into a spasm of anger and violence.
(There, now that I got that out of my system.....)
Goodmorning good people. How is everyone and what have we planned for the weekend?
I suspect McCain will pick a VP Limbaugh could support which will give him and his dittoheads the cover they need to support the GOP.
Did you see Senator Macaca slinking around at the CPAC gathering? Wouldn't he make the wingers happy.
WGA makes a deal! The strike may be over!
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