I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarFirst!


GravatarKnock, knock.


GravatarGood morning.


GravatarEat your vegetables!


GravatarYou mean Betray-Us?


GravatarOnly wily Persians could make copper saucers.


GravatarSomething about Shiites and shinola?


GravatarFYI
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6...na- governo.html


GravatarIf none of this makes any sense it's because none of this makes any fucking sense.

it's a rabbit hole.


Gravatarhow is idiot son and his media minions desperate for ratings and ad sales going to get their one last great ka-boom if they aren't able to jack up the FEAR! thru their lies and manipulation. it's worked so well for them so far.


Gravatarbye for now


GravatarWe should just turn Iraq into glass.


Gravatar(·)(·)


GravatarNTodd, what happened with the pup?


GravatarLet me get this straight. We have everything under control in Iraq, which is precisely why we can't ever withdraw our military force there.

Something isn't adding up here.


GravatarIt really is criminal that they're still away with this crap. Grumble.

'morning all. Effin' freezing here today. Sunshiney tho'.


GravatarI thought Iraq had a much more advanced cadre of nuclear scientists than Iran. Of course that's not as hard as making an EFP.


GravatarWhat about petraeus' housekeeping skills huh.


GravatarFighting the war on terra by creating it.


GravatarExactly. Five years ago they were making WMDs, chemical, biological and nuclear. Now they find a copper ash tray and it's such a technological marvel that could only have come from Iran.


GravatarNo-Pod will sort it out for us, because Atrios doesn't advocate destroying yet another country.

Can't 'we' just declare victory and go home?


Gravatar

I still miss :rocket:
Arkenor in 2008


DAMMIT! It's NOT my fault either.

:rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket: :rocket:


Gravatarchicagodyke - res posted the directions to Literati in the thread downstairs. I think it's games.yahoo.com > word games > literati.
V for Virginia,


yes, i'm there but there are 0000s of "game lounges" and i haven't been told which one is the atriot one. so i suppose that's kept secret for those who are most hip, which i am clearly not. oh well, i should probably get some work done anyway.

later, yall.


GravatarI'm getting growing doubt that the next government in this country will disengage from Iraq. It will look "good enough" that we have to stay to finish things. Except there's no objective other than staying, so I don't know what that would be. Won't stop our cowardly democrats from avoiding taking a stand, though.


GravatarThank god the adults are in charge
they are hard headed realists
who know!
that sunnis and shiites are just faking
hostility
And Iran is an Arab country
Dedicated to establishing the IHOC
(International House of Caliphates)
and the Saudi Princes
are Friends.


GravatarWork? Ah, yes that. Later, Atriots.


GravatarAl Qaeda is the new all-purpose bogeyman, like the Commie of old.


GravatarWiley and Gizmo put meth in his coffee, didn't they?

Yeah, but the obscure messianic cult meets every Wednesday night in a newly painted school. That's progress.

What...we haven't imported Lutheran-styled church basements to Iraq yet?
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 10:13 am


So we just send over copies of Lutheran Church Basement Women, everything will be fine?

http://www.scandinavianmarket.co....cfm/ 4,1332.htm


GravatarI fucking love flan.


GravatarSo we just send over copies of Lutheran Church Basement Women, everything will be fine?

Uff da...I forgot about egg coffee.


Gravatar"Signature attacks."

Each EFP is signed by Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, himself.
~


GravatarAl Qaeda is the new all-purpose bogeyman, like the Commie of old.
Lime Rickey


The military-industrial complex bellowed a collective "NOOOOOOOOO!" when Checkpoint Charlie actually went away.


GravatarTeh Surge's de facto ally al-Sadr sez he's thinking about ending his ceasefire

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20...dr- 43a8d4f.html


Gravatar"Signature attacks."

Each EFP is signed by Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, himself.


8x10 glossies, if I'm not mistaken...


Gravatar(like the latter, the cinematography seems to have been the work of a hyperactive seal with a camera strapped to its head).

27 DRESSES
I'm sorry, I'm having trouble believing that Katherine Heigl is somebody's ugly duckling sister.
steve simels | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 10:12 am |





So, you're saying I should stay home and watch the dvds I just picked up from the library: Ratatouille and Eastern Promises?
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 01.19.08 - 10:19 am


GravatarAmen dude. I love this blog, it's an island of sanity.


Gravatar"During the first half of January there were as many IEDs (improvised explosive devices) as there were in all of December," Defense Secretary Robert Gates told reporters

Clearly, the Americans suck at counter-insurgency.


GravatarClearly, the Americans suck at counter-insurgency.

To be fair, so do most occupiers. The advantage is always with the house.


GravatarI met a guy one time who had been the C.O. at Checkpoint Charlie between 1965-1967.

He described it as an "active period"...


GravatarClearly, the Americans suck at counter-insurgency.
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 10:25 am | #

Oh man, the Iranian-Sunnis are forced to use more IEDs because of their growing desperation. Down to their last few throes, they are trying a Hail Mary Pass and crossing themselves for luck.


GravatarI met a guy one time who had been the C.O. at Checkpoint Charlie between 1965-1967.

There's a pretty cool museum on the premises now.


GravatarWait, are they increasing or not?


GravatarSo we just send over copies of Lutheran Church Basement Women, everything will be fine?

Uff da...I forgot about egg coffee.
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 10:24 am |


And lots and lots of casseroles. And Jell-O.


GravatarClearly, the Americans suck at counter-insurgency.

I remember in the run-up to the "Greatest Adventure Evah!", all of the news spots that showed American troops training in 'urban combat'. Kicking down doors, shaking down old ladies, patting down burquas, etc.

Clearly, Fort (insert southern throwback here) wasn't giving them the counter-insurgency training that it was trumped up to be.

Never mind that we have NO FUCKING BUSINESS BEING THERE!


GravatarThe Chewbacca Defense doesn't work against the impenetrable MSM.


GravatarKarin-- you're missing my living outside the US snark. As every last person in Canada knows, a couple of days ago Gates said that NATO troops in Afghanistan (i.e. Canadians, who have lost about 50 soldiers) are fucking it up cuz they can't do counter-insurgency.


GravatarAnd lots and lots of hotdish. And Jell-O.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins

Flicked your tongue


GravatarMessianic Cults, Shiites, Sunnis, Qaedas, Iranians, Speed Boats,Greatest Enemies, Axis of Evils........

Bin Laden....

Ummm, who exactly are we supposed to be warring against?


GravatarHey Zap! How's dad?

Wonderfully toasty here in Mil-town - balmy 4 below!


Gravatarrootless-e refers to a rebellion against 'real ID' drivers license rules

but this is the 21st century - the solution is simple - everybody should get a subcutaneous 'chip' - anyone entering the country for any reason should have one implanted [they can have it removed when they leave, if they wish, but they'll have to get it put in again if they ever return] - then positive ID can always be established, and anyone who doesn't have a chip is ipso facto illegal, and can be taken into custody right away and subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques until they confess

this may seem like satire now - but wait a few years

there's a slow train comin' round the bend


GravatarKarin-- you're missing my living outside the US snark. As every last person in Canada knows, a couple of days ago Gates said that NATO troops in Afghanistan (i.e. Canadians, who have lost about 50 soldiers) are fucking it up cuz they can't do counter-insurgency.
Moe Szyslak


That got a lot of play here too. Some serious outrage in the House of Commons.


GravatarWhat puppethead said, re: hotdish.

But we pronounce it haaatdish.


GravatarThere'd better be marshmallows in the jello. And pineapple chunks.


GravatarWho cares about the truth? It really ain't
Of use to an authenticated saint;
If any of your claims are criticized,
Who gives a shit, since you've been canonized?


GravatarGates said that NATO troops in Afghanistan (i.e. Canadians, who have lost about 50 soldiers) are fucking it up cuz they can't do counter-insurgency.
Moe Szyslak


Son of a bitch.


GravatarWonderfully toasty here in Mil-town - balmy 4 below!

Only -13 here!

Dad went home last night! A lot earlier than thought.


GravatarUmmm, who exactly are we supposed to be warring against?
PeasantParty


The Assholes. They are an extensive tribe.


GravatarMista charley:

not a very slow train at all


ffmoscowitz! good to see you.


GravatarGates said that NATO troops in Afghanistan (i.e. Canadians, who have lost about 50 soldiers) are fucking it up cuz they can't do counter-insurgency.

Let's blame the failures on the Canadians. Now there is a winning strategy. I am sure Lou Dobbs will eat it up.


GravatarIn the Netherlands, where there is strong opposition to the presence of Dutch troops in southern Afghanistan, the defence ministry summoned the US ambassador to explain Gates's remarks.


Gravatarrootless-e refers to a rebellion against 'real ID' drivers license rules

I first read that as 'real IED'.


GravatarHere it is:

Gates faults NATO force in southern Afghanistan

WASHINGTON -- In an unusual public criticism, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said he believes NATO forces currently deployed in southern Afghanistan do not know how to combat a guerrilla insurgency, a deficiency that could be contributing to the rising violence in the fight against the Taliban.

"I'm worried we're deploying [military advisors] that are not properly trained and I'm worried we have some military forces that don't know how to do counterinsurgency operations," Gates said in an interview.


Gravatarthe defence ministry summoned the US ambassador to explain Gates's remarks.
Arkenor in 2008


Good. I'm sure the ambassador - ex-CEO of BIZMart isn't he? - had all the answers.


GravatarLiberal Fascism is at #1 on Amazon

Don't worry Liberals, Keith Olbermann's new book Adventures of a Coward that Fears Tweedy should do pretty good too I guess


GravatarJR! OMG! That means they are hear and living next door to me!!!!

Holy Shit! I'mma scared now.

They have taken over my country too! Run for the HILLS!


GravatarI heard someone from the administration saying that there would be a significant draw down of the troops over the summer. Before that I had heard March because we don't have any fresh troops to deploy. Just how many tours are they going to make these people do?


GravatarIsn't the US Dutch ambassador one of Chimpy's buddies and a mortgage crook?


Gravatar"not trying to piss the population off" is a perfectly good counter insurgency strategy.


GravatarOf course, it's been front page news here. How's that playing down there?


GravatarIn the Netherlands, where there is strong opposition to the presence of Dutch troops in southern Afghanistan, the defence ministry summoned the US ambassador to explain Gates's remarks.
Arkenor in 2008 | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 10:33 am | #


Well you know
he is an official
of the Bush junto
and his thinking
is poorly done
and that's my best explanation
hon


GravatarMessianic Cults, Shiites, Sunnis, Qaedas, Iranians, Speed Boats,Greatest Enemies, Axis of Evils........

Bin Laden....

Ummm, who exactly are we supposed to be warring against?
PeasantParty


The gaii, silly.


GravatarScott Simon just now:

"Cuba is holding elections this week. No need for exit polls...there's only one party to vote for."

Yeah, because exit polls are the lynch-pin of democracy; and so fucking accurate.


GravatarOT, but there's some Rin Tin memorial blogging at my place...


GravatarAnd lots and lots of hotdish. And Jell-O.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins

Flicked your tongue
puppethead | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 10:29 am |


That may be my Methodist coming out, I'm of mixed Methodist/Lutheran upringing.


GravatarThey have taken over my country too! Run for the HILLS!
PeasantParty


They are in the hills, too.

I'd suggest socking up on dry rations and ammo.


GravatarDad went home last night! A lot earlier than thought.
Zap Rowsdower

Yeah - hospitals don't seem to want to have beds "occupied"by folks that are actually, you know, recovering.

Somewhat surprised he wasn't transfered to an intermediate care facility first - just for a little extra monitored healing time.


GravatarGates said that NATO troops in Afghanistan (i.e. Canadians, who have lost about 50 soldiers) are fucking it up cuz they can't do counter-insurgency.

As you know, you go to war with the NATO you have, not the NATO you want.


Gravatarour man in The Hague -- into subprime abuses before it was cool

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rol...i/ Roland_Arnall


GravatarDAMMIT! It's NOT my fault either.

GWPDA


Is too!

:rocket:


GravatarMaybe we're not great at counter-insurgency, but we can recognize a country that tortures when we see one.


GravatarLet's blame the failures on the Canadians. Now there is a winning strategy. I am sure Lou Dobbs will eat it up.
leibniz, monadΩ


If we had a whole bunch of Mexican troops to lay the blame on, that would even be better.


GravatarChretien's legacy: Not sticking us in Iraq


GravatarIs too!

:rocket:
qlª


You're just blaming the Canadians, dammit!


GravatarGates said that NATO troops in Afghanistan (i.e. Canadians, who have lost about 50 soldiers) are fucking it up cuz they can't do counter-insurgency.

Good thing the US isn't part of NATO or anything...


GravatarChretien's legacy: Not sticking us in Iraq
JR,


He's looking great nowadays. Even the Quebecois are coming around to liking him.


GravatarIf we had a whole bunch of Mexican troops to lay the blame on, that would even be better.
Lime Rickey


If Latinos serving in our armed forces are killed in action, we might grant them posthumous citizenship, if we feel they earned it.


Gravatar"I'd suggest socking up on dry rations and ammo.
JR, kerosene and a match "

I have the ammo. Dry rations will have to be a slow and steady accumulation. I will do it though. I have enough water stored under the bed to go for a month. Otherwise, I'll have to find a spring somewhere to wash the propaganda off.


GravatarIt's relatively easy to get #1 book on Amazon. Book is only measured against other Amazon-sold books on an hourly basis.

http://www.webpronews.com/expert...n-sales- ranking


GravatarHi,
Delurking to ask if anyone has good references to green power and how to sign up. Figured someone here would have a good link. Hoping to get away from Georgia Power/Southern Co. coal burning.

PS I also ordered the Seeds of Change catalog plantsman has been recommending, you guys are a great source of information.


GravatarI suspect he's just trying to get us back for criticising the US style of counter-insurgency.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/ afghan...2241883,00.html

Whatever the concerns expressed by Gates, British military commanders have themselves accused the US of heavy-handed tactics, including aerial bombing - which frequently leads to civilian casualties - and have suggested that is the result of America's lack of experience in counter-insurgency warfare.

In turn, US commanders in Afghanistan have recently criticised British plans to support local militia and civil defence forces in the south of the country.


GravatarI always dug Chretien. He struck me as a truth teller, unlike this Harper clown. Puh-leeze.


GravatarA better question would be how many copies of "Liberal Fascism" are going to get read?

I doubt even Jonah has read it.


Gravatar
Somewhat surprised he wasn't transfered to an intermediate care facility first - just for a little extra monitored healing time.


His doc came in the room and said "You wanna go home?", and of course, he said "yeah".

I'm surprised that he's not still there, myself. But gotta make room for more custome..., err, patients.


GravatarHe's looking great nowadays.
Moe Szyslak


Well, look at the competition.

After Harper, I bet we could get PET's gravestone elected....


GravatarIn turn, US commanders in Afghanistan have recently criticised British plans to support local militia and civil defence forces in the south of the country.


You mean like the U.S. is doing in the Sunni areas of Iraq?


GravatarGates said that NATO troops in Afghanistan (i.e. Canadians, who have lost about 50 soldiers) are fucking it up cuz they can't do counter-insurgency.


Fortunately, the three guys from Guam have been fucking awesome!!!


GravatarYou're just blaming the Canadians, dammit!
GWPDA


Just one phony Canadian.

Hmm. Found a new recipe for bread that has beer and cheese. Have to give it a try.


GravatarHe struck me as a truth teller, .
Cleveland Bob


Chretien was a slippery old war-horse.


GravatarHe struck me as a truth teller, unlike this Harper clown.

For all his flaws, at least Chretien recognized that Bush was a disaster from day one.

Whereas Harper can't take his face out of Bush's ass long enough to look around at the mess he's made.


Gravatar"Free Brian Mulroney picture with every fill-up."

/MST3K


GravatarSimels, you have to see the top post at Sadly, No right NOW!!


GravatarOven Mitt's wife looks like she was made out of the same plastic he was.


GravatarA better question would be how many copies of "Liberal Fascism" are going to get read?

They've probably already started showing up in used book stores. You can tell by how many pages in the Cheeto prints stop.


GravatarQL - I'll have to ask the wife, but there is a whole wheat bread, white cheddar & beer recipe that she makes - which is awesome.


GravatarOh shit...

simels has unlocked the power of the LOL.

Be scared. Be very ascared.


GravatarPlus, Chretien's accent reminded me of Klondike Kat's arch enemy, Savoir-Faire!


GravatarSimels, you have to see the top post at Sadly, No right NOW!!
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 10:43 am | #


What TKK said.
~


Gravatarsimels has unlocked the power of the LOL.

Fuck. It'll be just like Yahoo in no time.


GravatarHmm. Found a new recipe for bread that has beer and cheese. Have to give it a try.
qlª


Hmmmmmmm.... all the yeasty goodness and protein too?


GravatarOven Mitt's wife looks like she was made out of the same plastic he was.
HoneyBearKelly


I bet the fucker opened every bidness meeting with some bullcrap about "strategic positioning".

There are clones of him in every organization.


GravatarThanks BD.

This recipe calls for American cheese, but I think I will use a sub.


GravatarFortunately, the three guys from Guam have been fucking awesome!!!

"As your attorney, I advise you to rent a very fast car with no top."


GravatarOf course, it's been front page news here. How's that playing down there?
Moe Szyslak

What country is this???

Is it near Green Bay?


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=- ...feature=related
A man lives at the corner of the street,
And his neighbors think hes helpful and hes sweet,
cause he never swears and he always shakes you by the hand,
But no one knows he really is a plastic man.

Plastic man got no brain,
Plastic man dont feel no pain,
Plastic people look the same,
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kick his shin or tread on his face,
Pull his nose all over the place,
He cant disfigure, or disgrace,
Plastic man (plastic man).

Hes got a plastic wife who wears a plastic mac,
And his children wanna be plastic like their dad,
Hes got a phony smile that makes you think he understands,
But no one ever gets the truth from plastic man


GravatarTKK,

That video is fucking hilarious!


GravatarHmm. Found a new recipe for bread that has beer and cheese. Have to give it a try.
qlª

Need my address?


GravatarThat may be my Methodist coming out, I'm of mixed Methodist/Lutheran upringing.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins


Nah, "hotdish" is quite the Minnesotan word. And our kids play "Duck, Duck, Gray Duck" not "Duck, Duck, Goose."


GravatarI think it's the best political music vid since "Gay Bar"


GravatarI'm surprised that he's not still there, myself. But gotta make room for more custome..., err, patients.
Zap Rowsdower


Hospitals are an excellent place for otherwise healthy people to contract antibiotic-resistant bacterial infections, so it's probably better to get 'em out of there ASAP.

Although I'm also surprised he didn't spend a little time in a rehab facility.


GravatarIt's because they lie.

When you realize that they lie about everything, just to try to manipulate the American people, then everything becomes clear.


GravatarAlso, just want to point out that Arkenor is currently leading my Dead Pool, with 5 bonus points for OJ Simpson's imprisonment.


GravatarAnd our kids play "Duck, Duck, Gray Duck" not "Duck, Duck, Goose."

So true.


GravatarBuddy, can you spare some change?


GravatarI would like a President who wasn't born into vast wealth.

Can we do this?


GravatarAlso, just want to point out that Arkenor is currently leading my Dead Pool, with 5 bonus points for OJ Simpson's imprisonment.

I'm gonna win this year.


GravatarAlso, just want to point out that Arkenor is currently leading my Dead Pool, with 5 bonus points for OJ Simpson's imprisonment.
The Kenosha Kid


Yay me!!!


Gravatar"A better question would be how many copies of "Liberal Fascism" are going to get read?"

None! The people that think like the author really can't read. I heard in an author interview that he actually just jotted stuff down, then went back and made sentences. It is a process called happy face defamation or something like that.


GravatarFive words a GOP presidential candidate shouldn’t say

“Frankly, I like Ted Kennedy.”

I watched Mitt Romney tell Jay Leno that last night.

My legs fell out, as they say.

“Like” is not a word a conservative should use when referring to the Senate’s biggest windbag, eco-hypocrite, shamnesty supporter, race demagogue, and conservative judicial nominee slimer.

And yes: Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment.


Gravatar think it's the best political music vid since "Gay Bar"
The Kenosha Kid


I always liked this one


GravatarIs there a Dead Pool masterlist all neat and tidy somewhere?


GravatarF-R-E-E, that spells free
credit report.com, babee...


GravatarOooh, a link to Malkin!

I'll trust it.


GravatarI suspect that the so-called bonus round is going to be a lot more productive than the deaths.


Gravataryou have to read the reviews of liberal fascism on amazon to appreciate how much extra stupidium exists in this universe.


GravatarIranian IUDs! Oooga-Booga!

H!I!C!A!

Let's make coffee.
.


Gravatar Is there a Dead Pool masterlist all neat and tidy somewhere?

Nope. Last year I put everyone's picks into a Word document so I could check every now and then. I suppose I should do that again.


Gravatarql -- if you're sharing that recipe, count me in. I could do a loaf of bread today.

(I always use part whole-wheat flour.)


GravatarNo cut and run coward

What part of Iraq are you posting from?


GravatarOooh, a link to Malkin!

Isn't she in the "what ever happened to" remainder bin by now?


GravatarI watched about 10 minutes of network news (I think it was ABC) last Saturday or sunday between games and heard some female talking head state as a given fact that there has been an upsurge in deaths from attacks in Iraq lately utilizing "Iranian supplied IEDs". Just a statement with absolutely no qualifiers at all.

My totally non-political wife did not even hear that when she said it, she just absorbed it as if the woman had said "the suspect sped off in a red car".


GravatarI always liked this one
JR


Good god, that's awesome.


GravatarGood god, that's awesome.
SteveNS


the editting is amazing.


GravatarOooh, a link to Malkin!

And yet she gets more hits than almost anyone. I'd love to know why.


GravatarIsn't she in the "what ever happened to" remainder bin by now?

She would be, if Atrios would stop posting that cheerleading video of hers...



GravatarTKK:

It's good, but it's not as good as the Electric Six.

The song sounds familiar, though -- who is it?


GravatarOh, and if you get the chance to catch "The State of the GOP" on CSPAN this weekend, it may be the funniest gotdamned thang you see all weekend. You have the RNC chair blowing solar flare sunshine up the collective asses of the assembled pugsters.
.


Gravatar'mornin'

Y'know, an art history prof of mine memorably described the revolution in art which accompanied the invention of photography, which challenged art as a representation of reality. Seems to me that it's well worth thinking in a similar context about what's happening today, when anything that can be imagined, pretty much, can be generated or manipulated on computers until it looks utterly real, and no image, photographic or artistic or cinematic or anything else, can be assumed a priori to represent reality, whatever that is.


Gravataryou have to read the reviews of liberal fascism on amazon to appreciate how much extra stupidium exists in this universe.
rootless-e


It's scary to see their so-called "thoughts" written down for everyone to witness.


GravatarOh, is Mary Jo Kopechne running for President this year?


Gravatar The song sounds familiar, though -- who is it?



Gravatarwhatever that is.
ProfWombat


Careful, I bite.


GravatarOoh, a Mary Jo Kopechne joke!! That's really showing how current you are!!


GravatarOh, is Mary Jo Kopechne running for President this year?

She's polling five points ahead of Laura's dead boyfriend.


Gravatarv4V

Here ya go


GravatarI always liked this one
JR, kerosene and a match


Awesome.


GravatarGoodness knows, no one ever died as a result of my fuck ups.


GravatarJR, this version seems to have better resolution.
~


GravatarIs Britney Spears dead yet?

'Cuz that's important.


.


GravatarI always liked this one
JR, kerosene and a match


Damn, that was well done.


GravatarVRROOOM! VRRROOOOM! THUD!!!


GravatarYou're just blaming the Canadians, dammit!
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | 01.19.08 - 10:38 am


Yes, yes we are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...h? v=0sLJVRvLNKI


GravatarOh, is Mary Jo Kopechne running for President this year?

Yes.

From underwater!

(Zing!)


.


Gravatar... living in a powder keg and givin' off snark, I really need you tonight ...


GravatarOh, is Mary Jo Kopechne running for President this year?

She's polling five points ahead of Laura's dead boyfriend.
SteveNS

But the real unknown is W's girl he knocked up in Alabama - if she runs, all bets are off.


GravatarAlso, just want to point out that Arkenor is currently leading my Dead Pool, with 5 bonus points for OJ Simpson's imprisonment.

It's still early in the year dood.


Gravatarv4V

Here ya go
qlª |


Thanks -- headed for the kitchen. Back in a bit.


GravatarWhenever I start thinking we're beginning to get over our race problem, something like this pops up:

PALM DESERT, California, Jan 18 (Reuters) - Golfweek magazine has fired its editor Dave Seanor for the controversial decision to depict a noose on the cover of the Jan. 19 issue, the latest chapter in the Tiger Woods "lynch" affair.

Seanor has been replaced by Jeff Babineau, the switch coming nine days after American cable television network The Golf Channel suspended one of its presenters for two weeks for making a racially sensitive comment at the expense of Woods.

Anchor Kelly Tilghman, a former playing professional, joked in a telecast with Nick Faldo during the PGA Tour's season-opening Mercedes-Benz Championship that players bidding to challenge Woods might have to "lynch him in a back alley".

Golfweek apologised in a statement on Friday for its Jan. 19 cover, which carried the headline: "Caught in a Noose" with the subtitle: 'Tilghman slips up and Golf Channel can't wriggle free.'


GravatarIs Britney Spears dead yet?

Not only not dead, but ready for a comeback.


GravatarRoadmaster: But the real unknown is W's girl he knocked up in Alabama - if she runs, all bets are off.

Her aborted fetus beats all of 'em in the South.
.


GravatarAlso, just want to point out that Arkenor is currently leading my Dead Pool, with 5 bonus points for OJ Simpson's imprisonment.

It's still early in the year dood.
Culture of TrÜth


You have OJ too anyway, I think, or were you too late to enter?


GravatarWhat has happened to powerful politicians who hitched their wagon to Shrub? They get steamrolled. Chimpy doesn't give a shit.


GravatarZombie Britney will be the best zombie evah.


Gravatar**Miffed that I don't get to play in the Dead Pool**


GravatarNot only not dead, but ready for a comeback.

Ooops! She did it again!


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Gravatar
Anchor Kelly Tilghman, a former playing professional, joked in a telecast with Nick Faldo during the PGA Tour's season-opening Mercedes-Benz Championship that players bidding to challenge Woods might have to "lynch him in a back alley".


That the hell?


Gravatarsimels has unlocked the power of the LOL.

Be scared. Be very ascared.
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 10:45 am | #


Uh oh ... if he discovers the wave, we're doomed.


GravatarEven though my local McDonald's has risen from the demolition debris like a greasy, e. coli-tainted phoenix, I think I'll fix b&g... it's frickin' 32.7°F out there!
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GravatarYou have OJ too anyway, I think, or were you too late to enter?
Arkenor in 2008


No! I got in under the wire!

Although I found out actually killing someone on your list is a disqualifier.


GravatarToo late, BG.


GravatarHey, I have some old beer still. I should make some of that bread. And beer cheese soup. Perfect for sub-arctic weather.


GravatarThe fucking Republican candidates are acting like Shrub, or his Poppy, even exist. They're leapfrogging both of them back to Reagan.

It's almost embarrassing, if the Republicans were capable of shame.


GravatarThat the hell?
Marcellina | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 11:02 am | #


She apologized right after saying it ... Woods was very classy about the whole thing.


Gravatar It's still early in the year dood.

Too much horse-race coverage?


Gravatarhalperin:

Nevada Democratic caucuses:
Begin at 11:30 am PT (2:30 pm ET).
Preference groups form at 12 pm PT (3:00 pm ET)
Second alignment begins at 12:15 pm PT (3:15 pm ET)
Results start coming into Nevada Democratic Party at 2 pm PT (5 pm ET).
http://thepage.time.com/


GravatarHey white people everyone - whatever joke you're thinking about making about race - just don't do it.


GravatarBob Herbert is worth erading today:

They’ve made a hash of a war that never should have been launched. They can’t find bin Laden. They’ve been shocked by the subprime debacle. They’re lost in a maze on health care.

Now, like children who have eaten too much sugar, they are frantically trying to figure out how to put a few dollars into the hands of working people to stimulate an enfeebled economy.

They should stop, take a deep breath and acknowledge the obvious: the way to put money into the hands of working people is to make sure they have access to good jobs at good wages. That has long been known, but it hasn’t been the policy in this country for many years.

Big business and the federal government have worked hand in hand to squeeze the daylights out of working people, stripping them (in an era of downsizing and globalization) of much of their bargaining power while ferociously pursuing fiscal policies that radically favored the privileged few.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/1...herbert.html? hp


GravatarHey white people everyone - whatever joke you're thinking about making about race - just don't do it.
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 11:04 am | #


Really. How fucking stupid are these people?

Oh, never mind ...


GravatarIt's still early in the year dood.

Too much horse-race coverage?
The Kenosha Kid

*Insert quip with "dead horse" in punch line*


GravatarY'know, an art history prof of mine memorably described the revolution in art which accompanied the invention of photography, which challenged art as a representation of reality. Seems to me that it's well worth thinking in a similar context about what's happening today, when anything that can be imagined, pretty much, can be generated or manipulated on computers until it looks utterly real, and no image, photographic or artistic or cinematic or anything else, can be assumed a priori to represent reality, whatever that is.
ProfWombat



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The...ing_%28story% 29
"The Real Thing" is a short story by Henry James, first published in Black and White magazine in 1892. This parable plays with the reality-illusion dichotomy that fascinated James, especially in the later stages of his career. For the painter who narrates the story, the genuine article proves all too useless for artistic purposes. The story vividly portrays the unfortunate victims of illusion's occasional tendency to become more real than reality.


GravatarWoods was very classy about the whole thing.
Brooklyn Girl


GravatarTry that again:

Woods was very classy about the whole thing.
Brooklyn Gir


Mighty white of him.


GravatarReally. How fucking stupid are these people?

Brooklyn Girl, sane again


They're like drunken Irishmen.


Oh wait...


GravatarHey white people everyone - whatever joke you're thinking about making about race - just don't do it.
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 11:04 am | #


For example...

Yeah. Not funny.

Good morning, peeps.


GravatarShe apologized right after saying it ... Woods was very classy about the whole thing.

I think she was totally unaware of the connotations when she said it, which might even be construed as a good thing if you think about it a certain way.


GravatarIt's official-

Tom Cruise is nuts.


GravatarDo scientists have instruments accurate enough to measure the Fred Thompson surge?


GravatarAnchor Kelly Tilghman, a former playing professional, joked in a telecast with Nick Faldo during the PGA Tour's season-opening Mercedes-Benz Championship that players bidding to challenge Woods might have to "lynch him in a back alley".


That the hell?


That's an old story. You want to see something really classy, Check out the cover of Golfweek.


GravatarNobody could have anticipated that a person named O'Reilly would act like a drunken Irishman.


Gravatar the way to put money into the hands of working people is to make sure they have access to good jobs at good wages. That has long been known, but it hasn’t been the policy in this country for many years.

Henry Ford was a racist and had many other nasty qualities, but realized this and put it into action.


Gravatarfrom the estimable Harper's, September 2007

THE RED AND
THE BLACK

From "Concerning Arms Shipments into Mississippi," a June 1965 Ku Klux Klan memorandum obtained in May by the Clarion-Ledger.

1. Last summer, a traveling salesman observed the following: At night a number of cars towing tandem trailers, driven by Negro gentlemen, heading from the coast in the direction of central Mississippi. The Negroes were young and "modern"-neatly dressed with closely cut hairstyles. The trailers were closed and locked with padlocks. The observer thought this was peculiar, because Negroes moving furniture and household belongings would not have a sealed trailer but an open one with pots and pans hanging everywhere.

2. A large amount of supplies, tools, and engine parts are being delivered to a Negro mechanic in Eupora. The Negro's business does not warrant the
amount of equipment that he is receiving, and this equipment appears to be cases of rifles and ammunition. Also, this Negro is the president of the local NAACP.

3. A former employee of a laundromat in Jackson reported that she observed rifles and ammunition cases being taken to the top story of the building. Her husband reported the matter to the FBI, which went to investigate and found nothing at all. He is of the opinion that someone in the FBI informed people in advance. His wife is positive she saw a known Communist going to and from the laundromat on a number of occasions.

4. A gentleman reports that while visiting a friend at a fish-fertilizer company in Pascagoula, he went to look at a pogey boat. His friend explained that the boat was captained and crewed by Negroes, and that although the Negro captain had long been with the company, he was a day or two late every time he came in with a load of fish, and his boat was having more breakdowns than all the other boats.

These items, though disconnected, may not be coincidental. A very serious situation may be developing in Mississippi; namely, the Communists,
by way of Russia or Cuba, are arming the Negroes for the purpose of effecting a Marxist revolution in the South.

http://harpers.org/


GravatarSome Freedom Party idiot over here caused a sensation by calling the prophet Mohammed a "child molester" who wrote the Koran while having epilectic fits,and referring to Muslim immigration as a "tsunami." The whole fucking rest of the country is trying to distance itself from her.


GravatarI should make some of that bread. And beer cheese soup. Perfect for sub-arctic weather.

Mmmmmm.

I'm tempted to go eat a Juicy Lucy at Matt's. And I don't eat beef anymore.


GravatarSo no one is going to pick up on my 'Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas' reference?
(pouts)


Gravatar the way to put money into the hands of working people is to make sure they have access to good jobs at good wages.

Working three jobs must not be American enough for Bob.


GravatarMeanwhile...

So stupid it made my eyes bleed...

Thirty-five years after the Supreme Court unilaterally struck down state laws restricting abortion, the cost of that decision continues to increase our moral deficit, which will have far greater (and eternal) consequences than the impact from economic challenges during a possible recession.

Depending on how one counts the number of abortions per year since 1973, more than 50 million people who might have been are not. These were people who, regardless of the circumstances of the women who carried them, had the potential to contribute to the country and to the world. But now they cannot, because they are not. Would we be fighting the battle over immigration had we not rid ourselves of a generation of humans who likely would have done the work for which we are now importing illegal aliens? Actions have consequences.


GravatarYahoo has an interview with the Golfweek editor, or rather, former editor (they fired him for the cover). He's a black guy.


GravatarRorsch - your NOLA photos are wonderful.


GravatarSigh ....


GravatarEven though my local McDonald's has risen from the demolition debris like a greasy, e. coli-tainted phoenix, I think I'll fix b&g... it's frickin' 32.7°F out there!
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 11:03 am


heat wave!

When I woke up at 7:15 it was 21. Leaving the house at 8:20, it was 12.

At least the wind hadn't picked up then.


GravatarSo no one is going to pick up on my 'Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas' reference?
(pouts)
Karin


(pulls face out of the ether-soaked rag) I'm sorry . . . did you say something?


GravatarHey white people everyone - whatever joke you're thinking about making about race - just don't do it.
Culture of TrÜth


How does every ethnic joke start?
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With looking over your shoulder.


Gravatarooops:

Sun-Times Exclusive: Obama surfaces in Rekzo's federal corruption case

Source confirmed Obama is the unnamed "political candidate" referred to in document which outlines case against Rezko

For the first time, Democratic White House hopeful Barack Obama has surfaced in the federal corrupton case against his longtime campaign fund-raiser, Tony Rezko, the Chicago Sun-Times has learned.

The Illinois senator isn’t accused of any wrongdoing. And there’s no evidence Obama knew contributions to his 2004 U.S. Senate campaign came from schemes Rezko is accused of orchestrating.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/ pol...ma20web.article


GravatarWould we be fighting the battle over immigration had we not rid ourselves of a generation of humans who likely would have done the work for which we are now importing illegal aliens? Actions have consequences.

Wow, ror. That's some powerful stupid.


GravatarRorsch - your NOLA photos are wonderful.
qlª | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 11:11 am | #


I'm glad you like 'em.

They are actually Miriam's; she has the photographer's eye in this family.

Walking in the 9th Ward was interesting and surprising, as was walking in the 7th, which is far more devastated still.


GravatarThese were people who, regardless of the circumstances of the women who carried them, had the potential to contribute to the country and to the world.

Who knows? Might have been another Hitler or Jeffrey Dahmer in the lot of them.


GravatarThese were people who, regardless of the circumstances of the women who carried them, had the potential to contribute to the country and to the world. But now they cannot, because they are not.

The fucking absurdity of this statement infuriates me.

I guess we ought to just breed with one another nonstop in hopes eventually we'll hit the jackpot and the ubermenschen will deliver a utopia on earth to all eleventy billion of us.


Gravatar the way to put money into the hands of working people is to make sure they have access to good jobs at good wages.

Everybody knows that, but nobody does it.


GravatarWould we be fighting the battle over immigration had we not rid ourselves of a generation of humans who likely would have done the work for which we are now importing illegal aliens? Actions have consequences.

i get it ... a whole generation of people so poor they would have been willing to leave their families and work in shitty conditions for less than minimum wage was aborted, and now we have to "import" those brown messicans instead.


GravatarGimlet: thanks; I'm entirely ignorant of James, alas, and will check it out.


GravatarJames .... William James


GravatarThat rat-bastard, God, aborting all those incipient humans.

(Failure/miscarriage rate is about 50%)


GravatarSo if there are going to be national ID's and thus files on the citizens, do we get to read the files to see if what it says is true???? HELL NO!


GravatarYahoo has an interview with the Golfweek editor, or rather, former editor (they fired him for the cover). He's a black guy.

Didn't know. Interesting.


Gravatari get it ... a whole generation of people so poor they would have been willing to leave their families and work in shitty conditions for less than minimum wage was aborted, and now we have to "import" those brown messicans instead.
Brooklyn Girl, sane again


By George, she's got it!
I think she's got it!


Gravatar(pulls face out of the ether-soaked rag) I'm sorry . . . did you say something?

Yeah, back at 10:46


GravatarWait a minute. Golfweek ex-editor isn't black.

simels regrets the error.


Gravatar
Working three jobs must not be American enough for Bob.
Supreme Commander Thor | 01.19.08 - 11:09 am | #


Can you imagine what a public works program administered by Bush would work like? All you gotta do is look at Iraq.


GravatarBuckeye: When I woke up at 7:15 it was 21. Leaving the house at 8:20, it was 12.

Yeah, but you're in Ohio! (Ohio! Ohio!)

I'm in what the Yankees here think is the DEEP SOUTH!
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GravatarFromm the "I'm going to Hell" files.

This made me laugh


Gravatar get it ... a whole generation of people so poor they would have been willing to leave their families and work in shitty conditions for less than minimum wage was aborted, and now we have to "import" those brown messicans instead.
Brooklyn Girl,


That, and one of those poor people would've been the next Einstein.


GravatarWorking three jobs must not be American enough for Bob.

Bob is Michelle Bachmann?


Gravatarget to read the files to see if what it says is true???? HELL NO!
warondandruff | 01.19.08 - 11:15 am | #


Well, with that crowd, truth is malleable ... they create their own reality.


GravatarCan you imagine what a public works program administered by Bush would work like? All you gotta do is look at Iraq.
rootless-e


First of all, it wouldn't be "public" - the administration would be farmed out to Halliburton or one of their ilk, though the taxpayers would pay for it.


GravatarCan you imagine what a public works program administered by Bush would work like?

I'd like to hear him define "public works". Bet it'd be a hoot.


GravatarI didn't realize we were importing Mexicans. I thought they were exporting themselves from Mexico.


GravatarThe public always works.


GravatarI didn't realize we were importing Mexicans. I thought they were exporting themselves from Mexico.
Toonscribe: Cartoon Liberal


Oh no, they're being trucked up the Nafta Highway that's mentioned in the Bible!


GravatarBuckeye: When I woke up at 7:15 it was 21. Leaving the house at 8:20, it was 12.

Yeah, but you're in Ohio! (Ohio! Ohio!)

I'm in what the Yankees here think is the DEEP SOUTH!
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 11:16 am


They think Nashville is the Deep South?

Really?


GravatarFact is, good jobs for good wages isn't just the right thing to do; as Henry Ford noted, it's good for business.

Herbert didn't mention that we have a military budget larger than the rest of the world combined. That seems relevant to me. Our willingness to spend mind-boggling sums of money on our military, while simultaneously crying poverty regarding health care, infrastructure, education, alternative energy, and just about everything else strikes me as a fit subject for debate in a presidential election year. Someday a star will shine in the East, and a Democrat will raise the question, and won't reflexively bend over backwards to prove 'toughness' before Republican accusations of pusillanimity.


GravatarMaking coded appeals to white racism is nothing new for Huckabee. Indeed, well before he was a nationally known political star, Huckabee nurtured a relationship with America's largest white supremacist group, the Council of Conservative Citizens. The extent of Huckabee's interaction with the racist group is unclear, but this much is known: he accepted an invitation to speak at the group's annual conference in 1993 and ultimately delivered a videotaped address that was "extremely well received by the audience."

Huckabee is creepy.


GravatarAt any rate, this is about as average-cold as it gets, here. Tonight, low of 11°F... brrrrr!

Bring me springtime!
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GravatarCan you imagine what a public works program administered by Bush would work like? All you gotta do is look at Iraq.

Do I have to look at Iraq? I'm kinda bored with that story now.


GravatarAnd who gets to have access to these files--every business, doctor's, dentists office, local cops, your neighbors. Jeebus, it is the end of the effing world.


GravatarLow of -11 F here tonight. One up on ya'


GravatarDo I have to look at Iraq? I'm kinda bored with that story now.
NTodd, OB-GYN


Besides, Dr. NTodd is busy practicing his love on his patients...


GravatarAt any rate, this is about as average-cold as it gets, here. Tonight, low of 11°F... brrrrr!

Bring me springtime!
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Jeffraham Prestonian | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 11:19 am |


Two more months.

And two more months after that I'll be complaining how hot it is.


Gravatar
Oh no, they're being trucked up the Nafta Highway that's mentioned in the Bible!


It's funny, but none of those cowards have stepped foot here in the Twin Cities. In spite of the bridge collapse. They talk about it, but I've never seen them here.

They're all nice and snug protesting strip clubs in Dallas.


GravatarLow of -11 F here tonight. One up on ya'

Minus 13 here right now.


GravatarSomeday a star will shine in the East, and a Democrat will raise the question, and won't reflexively bend over backwards to prove 'toughness' before Republican accusations of pusillanimity.

A Democrat has. Sadly, there are only about 12 of us supporting him.


Gravatar8 degrees tonight.

Ooof.


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Gravatar"Minus 13 here right now."

Nice to have an old fashion winter.


GravatarZap Rowsdower: Minus 13 here right now.

You CHOSE to live in Canada's Florida, though!
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GravatarA Democrat has. Sadly, there are only about 12 of us supporting him.
NTodd, OB-GYN


No one could have anticipated that an anti-militarism candidate would be locked out by a media owned by munitions manufacturers.


GravatarTwo more months.

Lucky. Spring doesn't come here for five more months.


GravatarNo one could have anticipated that an anti-militarism candidate would be locked out by a media owned by munitions manufacturers.

Yeah, it's a real puzzler.


GravatarPantload and his NYT review gets spanked by a Canadian

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/2...ters-t- 002.html


GravatarHuckabee is creepy.
Ebenezer Le Page



Like his feller picker, Lonesome Rhodes.
http://imdb.com/title/tt0050371/
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Gravatarafternoon moonbats


GravatarIt was running around 40-50 F last week; now snow and cold. Global warming brings climatic volatility, not necessarily warming. Tropic Montana one week; the Arctic the next.


GravatarAll I know is I need to don MORE CLOTHES!
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Gravatari so want an X-Box 360

my brother brought his round, and I had a go on Halo 3 and its teh coolest

me wants one!


GravatarLobsters are football fans?


GravatarGot an offer to subscribe to 'Reason' magazine the other day. Its envelope had my name, and a photograph from space of the street where I live and my house, and the legend, 'They know where you live.' Apparently so.

I'm not subscribing.


GravatarMy electric bill was $121 last month, to heat a 900^2ft. condo with low ceilings to 70°F.
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GravatarMoonbootica sez:

afternoon moonbats

Stop with that time-zone nonsense!


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GravatarIt got down to 37 here in my end of the San Fernando Valley last night. Supposed to get up around 70 today.


Gravatar.Two more months.

Lucky. Spring doesn't come here for five more months.
Moe Szyslak


It's a bluebird day here today. Not a cloud in the sky and temps in the low 40's ight after sunrise. Should hit the lower 60's in some spots. Perfect day for a big hike in the hills.


GravatarSeen at the coffee shop/health food mart on campus, yesterday.
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Gravatarand a photograph from space of the street where I live and my house

That is so fucking illegal here. Check your laws.


GravatarYou CHOSE to live in Canada's Florida, though!

Naw. Apparently if you're born here, you die here.

No choice offered.


Gravatar"My electric bill was $121 last month, to heat a 900^2ft. condo with low ceilings to 70°F."

Run the temp at 65 F and wear sweaters or fleece ... or keep on the stairmaster while at home.


GravatarReally?
Buckeye


Yeah, but what do I know. Till corrected in my twenties I always believed sparrows were baby pigeons. Grew up in NYC. That's about as much as I saw of nature.


Gravatar43F and the ice on the fountain is still solid....

"Winter" stinks.
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GravatarNo one could have anticipated that an anti-militarism candidate would be locked out by a media owned by munitions manufacturers.
Gummo | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 11:22 am | #


Can't we discuss some trite sexual fantasies involving his wife, instead of dwelling on this stuff?


GravatarOT: NAJAf, Iraq: Radical Shiite leader Muqtada al-Sadr put the United States and the Iraqi government on notice Friday that he may not extend a six-month cease-fire by his militia.

The cease-fire by the Mahdi Army militia, due to expire next month, has been cited by U.S. commanders in Iraq as a major contributor to the nationwide reduction of violence over the past six months. U.S. and Iraqi forces, however, have stepped up their hunt for the militiamen in recent months, arguing they were members of rogue cells closely linked to Iran.

"The rationale for the decision to extend the freeze of the Mahdi Army is beginning to wear thin," Salah al-Obeidi, al al-Sadr spokesman, said in a statement issued in the holy city of Najaf south of Baghdad.

"This is because the government is supporting some criminal gangs operating inside security agencies and which refuse to abide by the law," said al-Obeidi. He did not elaborate, but he was alluding to Shiites from rival groups that have infiltrated security forces.

Al-Obeidi said senior security officials remained in their jobs despite arrest warrants issued against them for human rights abuses. "This will force us to reconsider the decision to extend the cease-fire despite repeated public statements in the past that we will."

"This statement should be taken as a warning to the Iraqi government to pay heed ... if it wants to bolster stability," said the statement.


http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m4024...&hd=&size=1& l=e


GravatarI gotta go do stuff. Later, all.


GravatarMy electric bill was $121 last month, to heat a 900^2ft. condo with low ceilings to 70°F.

Paid almost twice that last month.

Ugh.


GravatarWinter quickens the step, revives the soul and clean the pipes.


Gravatar. to heat a 900^2ft. condo with low ceilings to 70°F.


You heat your house to 70 degrees? It's funny, but because the very mild but generally cool climate around here, people exist at pretty low indoor temperatures. The highest we ever heat out house is 68, and that's only around bathtime for the kid.


GravatarI hate winter until spring comes, which is so sweet that I'm grateful to winter for it.


GravatarIt's a balmy seven with snow squalls blowing in off the lake causing whiteout conditions. Lovely day for . . . well, about anything you want to do at home.


GravatarYou CHOSE to live in Canada's Florida, though!
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Jeffraham Prestonian


Canada is south of Minnesota. Toronto is at latitude 43º40', Minneapolis is 44º59'.


GravatarGoodness knows, no one ever died as a result of my fuck ups.
George W Bush


Drunk George Junior running over the trash cans in the driveway steps out of his car and holds a score sheet up while yelling at the house for "That Asshole" to come out. (Barbara loads up the double barrel knowing full well who it is)

Medicated George Senior tells his (beast) ...er wife to hold that thought and motions her to keep the barrel toward the floor at least until he's left the room.

Stepping outside he asks emboldened but with a feeble palor from broccoli withdrawal "What is it you want here George".

George juniors shakes the doc. and hollars SEE! I WIN! The paper containing statistics on the dead at George Junior's crafty hands.

His daddy's mouth curls at the corner slightly as he reaches in his housecoat pockets and pulls out a small ceramic pyramid and in the other he holds a key to a room at the dayz inn in Dallas dated Nov. '63'

He laughs a weak but evil laugh and says "You are a loser aren't you"


GravatarIt is a bit boggling to realize that the murikans don't seem to mind stealing money from Social Security to fund corrupt wars, corrupt banking systems, etc., in readiness for doing away with the whole thing while cutting taxes for the grotesque wealthy people eaters (and that is what they are all right)..


GravatarWinter quickens the step, revives the soul and clean the pipes.

You're a loony.

Winter is to be suffered.

Nothing more.


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Gravatarblerb: You heat your house to 70 degrees?

Yeah, and I sit with a knit cap, scarf and shoes on, at that.
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GravatarWinter quickens the step, revives the soul and clean the pipes.
montanaheadcold | 01.19.08 - 11:29 am | #


Is this "Winter" of whom you speak a prostitute. Cuz I think I know her.


GravatarI don't think I will be able to make Eschacon '08 sadly


GravatarWinter in DC was teh suck. So was summer.


GravatarThe highest we ever heat out house is 68, and that's only around bathtime for the kid.

We go to about 67 (even now, when is well below zero).

My feet are freezing, but that's what socks are for. Plus, having a 96 year old house, it tends to get drafty...no matter how much you "weatherize" it.


GravatarJR: it's public information, all of it. Don't see how it's illegal under American fair-use laws.

Data bases that advertise in law journals, for instance, sometimes talk of the joys of the fact that hunting and fishing licenses are public documents. This advert, as creepy as it is, is only the tip of the iceberg, I'm afraid.


GravatarWe try to keep it around 63 up in Oshkosh. It's sufficient.


Gravatar"You're a loony.

Winter is to be suffered.

Nothing more."

What good is summer without winter. Winter fills our mountains with snow, which keeps the rivers and streams running all year long. Without winter; summer would suck and the forests would burn.


GravatarYeah, and I sit with a knit cap, scarf and shoes on, at that.

Mebbe it's not well insulated-are your sliding glass doors facing north?


GravatarThis house is superinsulated and winterized and we are in a hollow. We only pay about $150 peak gas bill and mostly much less - and we keep it at 73. (We also have a high efficiency - though not super high efficiency - furnace and water heater)


Gravatar43F and the ice on the fountain is still solid....

46 in the East Valley. Beautiful morning, from what I can see stuck here babysitting a work process...


GravatarMoonbootica sez:

I don't think I will be able to make Eschacon '08 sadly

Aww, Moon, you gotta be there!


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GravatarI like winter.


GravatarYeah, and I sit with a knit cap, scarf and shoes on, at that.
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Jeffraham Prestonian



Funny. These days, I'm pretty comfortable in a t-shirt at 65 degrees. Of course, the summer heat in your native climate would likely kill me if I couldn't escape from it. It's been so long since I've had to contend with that oppressive humidity. People's tolerance window really does shift.


GravatarYou heat your house to 70 degrees?

This winter, I've only heated mine to 67 -- down one degree from last winter's 68.


GravatarKarin: Mebbe it's not well insulated-are your sliding glass doors facing north?

All the windows and doors need replacing. Place was built in 1973, out of the finest cheap-ass materials available.
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GravatarJR: it's public information, all of it. Don't see how it's illegal under American fair-use laws.

There is no "fair use" of private property.


GravatarWinter quickens the step, revives the soul and clean the pipes.
montanaheadcold


That must be why there are these Minnesota/Illinois/Wild Rose/Ohio/SK/MB/ Montana and N&SDakota plates clogging up thestreets around here, right?


Gravatar(We also have a high efficiency - though not super high efficiency - furnace and water heater)

See, we were hoping that we could get a new furnace when we moved in (our home warranty would've covered it, if it didn't work).

Had a guy come out and check it. It's a fricking Montgomery Ward's furnace...and it's still going!


GravatarAwww...Moon why not?


GravatarWhat good is summer without winter.

It would be summer.

So there.


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GravatarFrom Hullabaloo, why I am totally not optimistic about what will happen even if we have a large Democratic victory in 08:

In a time tailor-made for progressive ideas, when the conservative brand is almost entirely trashed, we have two centrist candidates running to lead the party.

Thanks, Hill and Barry.

Seriously -- I want to tear my little remaining fricking hair out when I even think about this...


GravatarWinter can be fun. Here's a photo of my snowshoes from a couple weeks ago.

(No, I'm not four-legged. I was with my girlfriend and dogs. The dogs don't need snowshoes, though.)


GravatarI like winter.
NTodd, OB-GYN

Ditto. It gives the land and people time to rest. It also provides the contrast that leads to the appreciation of the other seasons. We are really only getting about six weeks of hard winter here anymore. That is not too much to put up with. . . .


GravatarMoon, what's happened?


Gravatar"hat must be why there are these Minnesota/Illinois/Wild Rose/Ohio/SK/MB/ Montana and N&SDakota plates clogging up thestreets around here, right?
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian"

Snow birds are traitors to wintering class.


GravatarThat must be why there are these Minnesota/Illinois/Wild Rose/Ohio/SK/MB/ Montana and N&SDakota plates clogging up thestreets around here, right?

Snow birds!


GravatarI like winter.
NTodd, OB-GYN | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 11:35 am | #


Me too. I've been out walking on Lake Winnebago a few times.

And I'm doing the Polar Plunge in February. (We're raising money for the Special Olympics! Sponsor me!)


GravatarI like winter that you can spend 3 hours driving to, spend a couple of days playing around in, and then drive back home from. It will really suck if global warming depives central California of that most excellent feature.


GravatarMe too. I've been out walking on Lake Winnebago a few times.

You lie. There's no such thing as Lake Winnebago.


GravatarData bases that advertise in law journals, for instance, sometimes talk of the joys of the fact that hunting and fishing licenses are public documents.

Those aren't pictures. There is a whole 'nother kettle of fish in taking pictures.

The trick is that recognizable private property can ony be published with permission. The only "by" is public interest (eg, news stories) and incidental use.


GravatarTreadmill work is done for the day - only sixty minutes today. Time for a shower, later 'bats

Peace


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You lie. There's no such thing as Lake Winnebago.
NTodd, OB-GYN | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 11:39 am | #


No, I have not lain on Lake Winnebago.


GravatarI've lived here all my life, and I've never walked on a frozen lake.


GravatarI like winter but hate snow and ice.

Gladly Al Gore has arranged so that we don't get those anymore.

Lurves ya Al.


GravatarWhat good is summer without winter.

It would be summer.

So there.


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spork_incident | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 11:37 am | #


And remember -- a day without sunshine would be....

Night.


GravatarI was up on one of the treeless high plateaus in Yellowstone Park last weekend, watching the elk deal with wind, cold, and wolves. Watching them eke out a living on stubbles of last summer's grass renewed my appreciation for that peculiarly, but not exclusively, human invention: the house.


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Gravatarits just not the right time


GravatarHuck sheets.


GravatarThere's a website called zillow.com on which I can get a detailed map from space of my neighborhood, complete with real estate evaluations of the houses on it.


GravatarYou lie. There's no such thing as Lake Winnebago.
NTodd, OB-GYN

Not only that but up by Zap's place there is Minnetonka - home of Tonka Trucks (well, it used to be I think)


GravatarYou lie. There's no such thing as Lake Winnebago.

Yes, there is!

It has a "kitchen" and a "bathroom"!


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GravatarWinter can be fun. Here's a photo of my snowshoes from a couple weeks ago.

How do we know those are yours? They're not on your feet. They look like the hill is wearing them.


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GravatarI've lived here all my life, and I've never walked on a frozen lake.
Zap Rowsdower | Homepage | 01.19.08 - 11:40 am | #


It's rather eerie.

Photos here.


GravatarThere's a website called zillow.com on which I can get a detailed map from space of my neighborhood, complete with real estate evaluations of the houses on it.
ProfWombat


It has to be recognizable. One roof looks pretty much like another, until you paint "Fuck you" on it.

It's not the information that is problematic, it's the picture itself.


GravatarAnd remember -- a day without sunshine would be....

...a day without sunshine.

Next!

(I don't like winter.)


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GravatarI think this comment over on MM's site truly shows what conservatives are.

Remember Robme mandated health care for all Massachusetts citizens. Doesn’t sound like anything a conservative would do or allow.

Yes, a true conservative wants people to die in the streets so he/she can spit on them.


GravatarAll the windows and doors need replacing. Place was built in 1973, out of the finest cheap-ass materials available.

Well, there's your explanation. The previous owner of our house put in all Anderson windows. And probably by accident, it's well sited, the attached garage is on the north side.


Gravataranyone got the recipe or link for Lake Winnebagels?


GravatarI heard you have to let them rise then boil them, but then do you deep-fry or bake ?


GravatarGravatarI've lived here all my life, and I've never walked on a frozen lake.

when we were kids, my dad took us out on a water reservoir in the neighborhood, which is actually no trespassing allowed. The ranger caught us, and scolded him, because when they draw down the water, there can be an big gap between the ice and the water level, making it impossible to get out.


GravatarIt's rather eerie.

Photos here.
rorschach, meh



yeah and the noises it makes are frightening


Gravatarwhen we were kids, my dad took us out on a water reservoir in the neighborhood

Far more refreshing than the dirt reservoir, I find.


GravatarI've spent a lot of time on lake ice. Fell through once (once!), it was very scary.


Gravatarwell, nobody told us there were sheets upstairs!


Gravatarwith Plan A's bomb Iran's nonexistent nuclear weapons program falling flat on its face because Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapons program, Plan B and C are in effect.

Plan B: bomb Iran because they're supplying weapons to insurgents in Iraq.

Plan C: manufacture a Gulf of Tonkin incident.

It will be the same old marketing blitz full of threats about Iran needing to come in line with the international community; and the lies that they aren't; and the bush regime doing everything they can without resorting to military action, but somehow the Iranians never meeting their demands.

Its all so predictable its sickening. the bush/cheney/neocon train wreck continues undaunted. No one should be under any delusions that an attack on Iran isn't going to happen this summer...all the dem preznit candidates will be shoulder to shoulder with the criminals bush, cheney, and mass murdering neocons.

And don't forget that Plan A hasn't gone anywhere either. Its suffered a minor set-back until new evidence can be manufactured and the intel community twisted until they get with the program.
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GravatarYou're sexy when you're strident.


GravatarWord is Iran is planning a Gulf blitz with a fleet of top of the line party pontoon boats.

-GSD


GravatarLutheran Church Basement Women: lutefisk, lefse, lunch and jell-o
Books, Scandinavian / Humor: Janet Martin et al
Your Price: $11.95

Janet Martin and Al Todnem wrote this book in 1992 and it's still going strong. Not only is it filled with the oldie but goodie recipes (including egg coffee and Watkin's nectar) from years ago, but it is loaded with humorous insights into proper Lutheran church basement etiquette. Paperback, 192 pp.

Ah, yes. Egg coffee. Serb Hall in Milwaukee, back in the old days of the women's group doing most of the cooking, had coffee made using eggs in some way. It was the first coffee I could drink, as I didn't like coffee.

Never really understood how the eggs were used or what they did, but was told it made the coffee smoother and clearer....

And the fish fries were fantastic.


GravatarWhen I'm in Wisconsin I ice skate of Pewaukee Lake, a fairly narrow and very long lake with lots of springs in various places where ice can be thinner. Lots of ice heaves, which can rise pretty high, making part of the distance skate a bit of a climbing expedition (I exaggerate a tad).

Anyway, once I started out latish in the afternoon, had a fantastic wind at my back, and ended up in an area where I couldn't quite figure out where I was. The ice in this area had melted on the surface and refrozen in waves and with chunks, then there were areas where the ice had trapped air beneath and I couldn't skate, instead kind of stomped through on blades. It was sheer hell to maneuver.

I found some ice fishermen, who unfortunately were four sails to the wind and I couldn't get any directions from them. Anyway, I just sorta skated into the wind and eventually saw a boathouse light I thought I recognized, the only one I recalled which kept the yellow bug light on all winter. Made it back--late, cold, and a bit chastened (cell phone woulda been a good idea. Compass).

A friend who lives on the lake told me I ought to skate with emergency ice hooks--name of which I've now forgotten--which are worn around the neck and through the sleeves, kept tucked into the sleeve until, uh, needed. Think there was some cover so they didn't cause damage in a fall. Anyway, on falling through the ice, one is to have presence of mind to get the ice hooks freed, then, acting quickly, hook them on the ice and gradually--but before losing ability to move from the cold--keep moving them along the ice to be able to get to strong enough ice and get one's body out of the water.

I can't imagine the cold fear which would go through one....


Gravatar"Drinking your jizz is my only vice"- beltway bumpkins, Lindsey Graham, John McCain and Joe Lieberman to David Betray Us


GravatarI think Petreaus actually wants to go to war with Iran. He's sick and tired of fighting this small, ragtag bunch of insurgents who won't stand and fight and wants to prove his mettle against a real army.


GravatarThis conveniently ignores all those arms depots we failed to secure as we raced to the oil ministry.


GravatarDuring the Iran/Iraq war, the Iran's goal was to topple Saddam Hussein, and to have a dfriendly gvt in Iraq. As MR Bush said, "mission accomplished", thanks to the US.
Why does Iran should carry on fighting the US In Iraq?
Iran has problem with kurds or baloch, and does not need other trouble!


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