MSNBC says Tony Snow died today.
MP |
07.12.08 - 12:39 pm | #
ST. LOUIS -- Jordan Moore took the news that his beloved Budweiser could soon fall into foreign hands very personally: He decided he would scrap his plan to get the logo of the King of Beers tattooed on his right rib cage.
"I'll tell you one thing," said the 21-year-old concrete worker during his lunch break at The Brick of St. Louis bar, in the shadow of this city's storied Anheuser-Busch Cos. brewery, "if Budweiser is made by a different country, I don't drink Budweiser anymore. I'll go back to Wild Turkey." (Wild Turkey, a Kentucky bourbon, is owned by French drinks giant Pernod Ricard SA.)
Hey, Jordon. Now you'll have to get some French Turkey tattoo.
Lime Rickey |
07.12.08 - 12:40 pm | #
I haven't been there in about 20 years, but I'll make a mental note.
Lumpenprolitariot |
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07.12.08 - 12:41 pm | #
ST. LOUIS -- Jordan Moore took the news that his beloved Budweiser could soon fall into foreign hands very personally: He decided he would scrap his plan to get the logo of the King of Beers tattooed on his right rib cage.
I'm sorry, but it's cretinous shit like this guy who apparently works on his own head with a jackhammer that this country is fucking doomed.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 12:44 pm | #
A Food Post! How long has it been?
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 12:44 pm | #
He decided he would scrap his plan to get the logo of the King of Beers tattooed on his right rib cage.
He clearly never had German reinheitsgebot Bier, either.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 12:46 pm | #
What is frightening is that there probably some stupid woman out there who will breed with the cretin concrete worker.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 12:46 pm | #
Went out to eat last night, and we had some "Fire Wings" as an appetizer. Good Grief, were those things aptly named. You deal with the heat the next day.
MP |
07.12.08 - 12:46 pm | #
I think Glenn Greenwald better take a vacay. I'm seriously getting worried he gonna bust a gut he's so pissed off. Maybe he should visit Philly and hang out with Atrios at Drinking Liberally.
qlª |
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07.12.08 - 12:46 pm | #
Be careful what you say.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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07.12.08 - 12:47 pm | #
Wild Turkey for lunch. Must keep up your strength, y'know.
Lime Rickey |
07.12.08 - 12:47 pm | #
(from below)
India now has an excellent ability to toss large objects in any direction around the world as shown by their recent simultaneous launch of 10 satellites in a polar orbit.
Doug | 07.12.08 - 12:45 pm | #
He clearly never had German reinheitsgebot Bier, either.
When I was stationed in Germany, a new 2LT came into the unit, and the rest of the lieutenants in the battalion took him out to dinner to welcome him to the unit.
The guy would not drink German beer, for fear it would ruin his taste for Budweiser.
Yes, he was from Missouri.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 12:47 pm | #
MP: Went out to eat last night, and we had some "Fire Wings" as an appetizer. Good Grief, were those things aptly named. You deal with the heat the next day.
There's an address called Northern Liberties? Cool.
Karin Hussein |
07.12.08 - 12:47 pm | #
OK Tobes one for you.
And if your answer is not satisfactory, Atrios will ban you.
Ready?
I know you believe the earth is only six thousand years old 'cause the Bible tells you so.
What do you think of a God that puts dinosaur fossils on earth to deceive you into thinking there is such a thing as "evolution'?
And if you get fall for it, he sends you to Hell and torments you forever.
What do you say to Him on Judgment Day Tobes? Good one God, You really had me fooled that time?
Gimlet |
07.12.08 - 12:47 pm | #
What is frightening is that there probably some stupid woman out there who will breed with the cretin concrete worker.
What Wild Turkey has brought together, let no man put asunder.
SteveNS |
07.12.08 - 12:47 pm | #
Food was excellent, so give it a try.
I wish I could make it. Unfortunately I'm going to be incommunicado for a while.
Tony Snow |
07.12.08 - 12:48 pm | #
Food-At the market I picked up a package of what are supposed to be home grown tomatoes, but I think not since it's really too early in the season. Boy are they good! At $3.49/pound they better be.
qlª |
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07.12.08 - 12:48 pm | #
I got a small tub of the DFH Market's store-made guacamole. Man, was it good!
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 12:49 pm | #
ql, did you see my earlier response about your neighbors? Next time they mention attacking Iran, you should ask them how they will like the $10 or $15 a gallon gas prices.
Karin Hussein |
07.12.08 - 12:50 pm | #
That guy who was fired by UAB will be able to sue them into fucking penury for that shit.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 12:50 pm | #
What do you say to Him on Judgment Day Tobes? Good one God, You really had me fooled that time?
Gimlet
It's very possible there are ripe tomatoes in Maryland or Delaware, or even south Jersey.
Karin Hussein |
07.12.08 - 12:51 pm | #
Can you imagine being an Iranian citizen, with the United States and Israel thinking out loud about all the different scenarios under which they would attack your country?
Myers, who claims expertise in studying zebrafish, has quite a following among the King Kong Theory of Creation gang. Indeed, we’ve been inundated with hate mail from all over the world, and it all stems from those whose alleged god is reason.
Stunt Woman |
07.12.08 - 12:53 pm | #
OT:
Brown shoes don't make it.
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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07.12.08 - 12:53 pm | #
Reading that menu made me drool.
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MisterX |
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07.12.08 - 12:53 pm | #
We already know that Myers lost one round: the university has removed the link to his blog from his faculty page.
ql, did you see my earlier response about your neighbors? Next time they mention attacking Iran, you should ask them how they will like the $10 or $15 a gallon gas prices.
Karin
Yeah, and they'd agree that's a bad thing but, but, but, they *HAVE* missiles. Really, it's amazing. The dfhs have been piling fact upon fact, writing books, magazine articles, making movies, etc. and it doesn't mean a fucking thing. Who are they going to believe, their crazy neighbor or the President. And if the public is buying into the scary Iranians they will also buy into needing someone like McStain to keep us safe. I am very depressed about the whole thing.
qlª |
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07.12.08 - 12:54 pm | #
Next time they mention attacking Iran, you should ask them how they will like the $10 or $15 a gallon gas prices.
Karin Hussein | 07.12.08 - 12:50 pm | #
People are paying that now anyway. It's just hidden in the form of taxes and even more taxes to be paid off by their children.
That's right kids. When your dad fills up the SUV with $4 a gallon gas, he's putting the other $6 or so on your tab. By the time you pay it off, there'll also be plenty of interest. If you wanna save your future money, slash the tires.
Mike |
07.12.08 - 12:54 pm | #
That shitstain Donohue needs to be transsubstantiated into a eucharist cracker.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 12:54 pm | #
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3229/
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Mike
Do we have to be from Philly to post on this thread?
Willendorf Venus |
07.12.08 - 12:54 pm | #
Brown shoes don't make it.
You wear black shoes?
billy b |
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07.12.08 - 12:55 pm | #
Good Photoshopping is hard to beat.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 12:55 pm | #
Can you imagine being an Iranian citizen, with the United States and Israel thinking out loud about all the different scenarios under which they would attack your country?
WTF?
MP | 07.12.08 - 12:52 pm | #
Well, if you were wondering about whether to sign up with Iran's 50K strong suicide bomber corps, it might just push you over the edge.
Mike |
07.12.08 - 12:55 pm | #
If we were from Philly, we would have been shot by now.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 12:55 pm | #
Do we have to be from Philly to post on this thread?
Only if you want to make a meaningful on topic comment.
Fortunately, these threads tend to go off topic before anyone posts to them.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 12:56 pm | #
I know it's been said many times before, but it never fails to stun me when someone pulls that "fight them over there" line. Morally, ethically corrupt, and intrinsically evil as the basic idea is, it's also hugely stupid besides...
atablarasa |
07.12.08 - 12:56 pm | #
I made crab enchiladas not long ago... Y.U.M.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.12.08 - 1:00 pm | #
I hear the Green Zone is relatively calm.
Please do not park in the Green Zone. The Green Zone is for loading and unloading only.
Karin Hussein |
07.12.08 - 1:00 pm | #
What stuns me is how few people seem to grasp that there are some bad situations you can't fight your way out of no matter how badass your military is. I blame Rambo and football.
blerb |
07.12.08 - 1:00 pm | #
.I made crab enchiladas not long ago... Y.U.M.
Sounds good. Crab tamales are a personal favorite for me.
blerb |
07.12.08 - 1:01 pm | #
I blame Rambo and football.
Actually, given that most Americans' experience with the military has been in the form of popular entertainment (which always leaves out the boring parts to cut directly to the chase) it's not surprising they have no fucking clue as to how stupid the entire concept is.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 1:01 pm | #
I blame Rambo and football.
Woody Hayes,
3 yards and a cloud of dust, lose game.
(An Ohio State U coach from many years ago.)
Doug |
07.12.08 - 1:02 pm | #
What do they expect the Iranians to do, when the biggest military power on the planet starts hinting that they are going to attack you?
We're a big reason for their bellicose foreign policy. Why don't we realize that?
MP |
07.12.08 - 1:02 pm | #
I do sauteed shrimp & garlic all the time, but I don't have an actual recipe. Sometimes I add a little chopped tomato, and melt feta cheese on top at the end, Greek style.
Karin Hussein |
07.12.08 - 1:02 pm | #
I bought about 9 ounces of ahi tuna. If I can stand heating up the kitchen, I'll roast it today.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 1:04 pm | #
It also demonstrates that the poster does not understand military operations in the slightest.
What stuns me is how few people seem to grasp that there are some bad situations you can't fight your way out of no matter how badass your military is. I blame Rambo and football.
I blame the deification of "war" as a solution - War on Drugs, War on Poverty, War on High Prices... The Bin Laden gang needed a different solution, but when the American public saw George with his hammer, Afghanistan looked like a nail. And so did Iraq, given the Bush lies...
atablarasa |
07.12.08 - 1:04 pm | #
Diplomacy is an art. The threat of military commitment is always there, but you don't lead with it.
The fucking Bush Administration always boxes itself into a corner. They're idiots.
MP |
07.12.08 - 1:05 pm | #
(warning: on topic post)
Checked out the menu...I half expected Cantina Dos Segundas to be a Spanish place (tapas, etc) but it seems to be more of a Pseudo-Mexican American place.
Not that this is a bad thing, mind you, but knowing Atrios' infatuation, nay, outright sloppy love of Spanish cuisine...
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 1:06 pm | #
You get any rain, Doug?
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 1:06 pm | #
The Doomsday Scenario – A Nuclear Iran?
Accuracy in Media ^ | July 10, 2008 | KT McFarland
Throughout the Cold War, the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists kept a Doomsday Clock, monitoring how close they thought the world was to catastrophic nuclear destruction, measured as ‘minutes from midnight.' This week Iran tested its first nuclear-capable, long-range missile and moved the hands of the Doomsday Clock a little closer to disaster.
How much closer? And is the Doomsday Clock on GMT?
Lime Rickey |
07.12.08 - 1:06 pm | #
...when the American public saw George with his hammer, Afghanistan looked like a nail. And so did Iraq, given the Bush lies...
atablarasa
Now I have "If I Had A Hammer" going in my head...
...with that, and Atrios' diabolical timing of a food post just prior to lunch...
Gotta go! Y'all take care of your good selves, and thanks for the company.
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07.12.08 - 1:06 pm | #
What stuns me is how few people seem to grasp that there are some bad situations you can't fight your way out of no matter how badass your military is. I blame Rambo and football.
blerb | 07.12.08 - 1:00 pm | #
Everything is a matter of willpower. But not just any willpower. The willpower to spend other people's money and get other people killed in large numbers is the kind we need.
/Republic Theory
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin |
07.12.08 - 1:07 pm | #
plantsman: Ouch, JP! Humidity?
54%
weather.com says it's 90°f, and feels like 97. My thermometer says 100.9°F.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.12.08 - 1:07 pm | #
"You get any rain, Doug?"
I think about 2.5" to 3".
I've got to put a yucca in the ground
Doug |
07.12.08 - 1:08 pm | #
Everything is a matter of willpower.
reporter: but, mccain's plan to balance the budget is mathematically impossible
mccain spokesperson: obama doesn't even have it as a goal.
dirk gently,melancoholic |
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07.12.08 - 1:08 pm | #
If I join the Texas Public Policy Institute, will Wendy Gramm tell me the Secrets of Audit?
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin |
07.12.08 - 1:08 pm | #
That flooding in Mesa was crazy!
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 1:08 pm | #
made this wonderful carbonara last night, but used speck instead of pancetta. garnish with parsley, add a salad and a glass of wine...life is gooood!
We're a big reason for their bellicose foreign policy. Why don't we realize that?
The writers put it in the Transformers movie. They must be Communists or something.
atablarasa |
07.12.08 - 1:08 pm | #
"can I chase 28 year old women around the table there?"-John MCCain
jr |
07.12.08 - 1:08 pm | #
weather.com says it's 90°f, and feels like 97. My thermometer says 100.9°F.
Sounds like the wet bulb temp is going to be in the "do not leave your air conditioned space unless absolutely necessary" zone.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 1:09 pm | #
I blame the deification of "war" as a solution - War on Drugs, War on Poverty, War on High Prices...
That, and the use of "czar," have always driven me nuts....
(Not a long drive, of course....)
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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07.12.08 - 1:09 pm | #
Everything is a matter of willpower.
Leni Reifenstahl, come on down!
You're our next contestant!
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 1:10 pm | #
When it's hot, I have trouble eating enough, believe it or not.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 1:10 pm | #
Everything is a matter of willpower.
A "triumph of the will," you might say....
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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07.12.08 - 1:10 pm | #
I blame the deification of "war" as a solution - War on Drugs, War on Poverty, War on High Prices...
That, and the use of "czar," have always driven me nuts....
The Weather Channel's recent description of a sunny day:
It was like that earlier this week around here. This morning, however, it was 62 degrees and foggy here in Walnut Creek. What a relief! We were going to go broke running that AC.
blerb |
07.12.08 - 1:11 pm | #
That, and the use of "czar," have always driven me nuts....
Anyone heard from the White House "war czar" recently?
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 1:11 pm | #
Leni Reifenstahl, come on down!
You're our next contestant!
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 07.12.08 - 1:10 pm | #
Thank you so much. You know, pandering to the public with prosperity and peace is so weak and demeaning. The Glory of the Nation Requires Sacrifice. So stop whining.
/Leni Republic
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin |
07.12.08 - 1:12 pm | #
That flooding in Mesa was crazy!
Twas. My street and yard were rivers for a while, and we're not in a low area. The house has aluminum awnings running the length of the house for shade and the rain hitting it was so loud when I went out to see what was going on that I had to plug my ears.
Good news is that the new roof stayed on and didn't leak...
atablarasa |
07.12.08 - 1:12 pm | #
.made this wonderful carbonara last night, but used speck instead of pancetta.
A good Tiroler speck is like manna from heaven.
blerb |
07.12.08 - 1:12 pm | #
Leni Reifenstahl, come on down!
You're our next contestant!
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IOU one (1) bottle of Rebel Yell bourbon.
Phila, Pizen Sarpint |
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07.12.08 - 1:12 pm | #
I saw that SF was heading for 77 today; I used to love when "the Bay Area's natural A/C" kicked in!
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 1:12 pm | #
In any case this being my second whole summer in Tucson, anything less than 90F feels kind of chilly, like you might want to find a sweater, or jacket to put on.
I have refused to give in so far, to that urge.
Doug |
07.12.08 - 1:13 pm | #
Good afternoon, folks.
Got the news this morning about Tony Snow.
These things DO come in threes.
Just for the hell of it, I unblocked Faux News.
Enough to make you throw up. They're giving Snow the same treatment MSNBC gave Russert last month.
I instantly reblocked Faux and am watching "Judgment At Nuremberg."
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.12.08 - 1:14 pm | #
I saw that SF was heading for 77 today; I used to love when "the Bay Area's natural A/C" kicked in!
plantsman
Well, if SF's headed for 77, we'll probably hit like 95 here, but as long as it cools off again at night, that's OK. If you're not at home, you can just close up your windows in the morning when you leave. If you are, you might have to run the AC for an hour or two in the afternoon. This last week it was only getting down into the mid 70's at night.
blerb |
07.12.08 - 1:15 pm | #
Anyone heard from the White House "war czar" recently?
Apprentice to Darth Holden | 07.12.08 - 1:11 pm | #
douglas lute. and no.
dirk gently,melancoholic |
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07.12.08 - 1:16 pm | #
Tony Snow kicked?
Why couldn't this have happened decades ago, as it should have with the shitstain Helms, or the shitstain Reagan?
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 1:16 pm | #
That, and the use of "czar," have always driven me nuts....
Phila, Pizen Sarpint
Reminds me of the late 70's Doonesbury strip where "the Energy Czar" declared that because fuel shortages had become routine, the energy crisis was in fact over.
Some things change, some things don't...
[From Yes, Minister I gather that that British have similarly dubious title, "Supremo."]
Uncle Smokes |
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07.12.08 - 1:16 pm | #
I know not this "speck." Pls subscribe me to your newsletter.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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07.12.08 - 1:17 pm | #
ST. LOUIS -- Jordan Moore took the news that his beloved Budweiser could soon fall into foreign hands very personally: He decided he would scrap his plan to get the logo of the King of Beers tattooed on his right rib cage.
Mr. Moore is in dire need of a life.
Maybe Bud will taste better after it's taken over.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.12.08 - 1:17 pm | #
This last week it was only getting down into the mid 70's at night.
After the rain, it was almost cool here, but by the next morning it was warm enough that the windows were fogging up on the house - on the outside... Dry heat, my ass.
atablarasa |
07.12.08 - 1:17 pm | #
Enough to make you throw up. They're giving Snow the same treatment MSNBC gave Russert last month.
Please don't let them use the word "hero" in the copy. That, and "patriot", have recently become so watered down, that they're made completely of water now.
MP |
07.12.08 - 1:17 pm | #
Actually, I just looked at weather.gov, and their predicted high for SF is only 66. Sez Concord to our immediate north is headed for 82. It can't get much nicer than that for us. Good day to be outside.
blerb |
07.12.08 - 1:17 pm | #
"Speck" is german for bacon.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 1:17 pm | #
I instantly reblocked Faux and am watching "Judgment At Nuremberg."
One of the things people forget about Nuremberg is that we hung "journalists" who were actually propagandists there.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 1:17 pm | #
Tony Snow kicked?
Why couldn't this have happened decades ago, as it should have with the shitstain Helms, or the shitstain Reagan?
Apprentice to Darth Holden
My sentiments exactly.
BEFORE they had time to do damage to this country.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.12.08 - 1:17 pm | #
Hundreds of miles north of you, in Portland, it's going to be 93.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 1:18 pm | #
Enough to make you throw up. They're giving Snow the same treatment MSNBC gave Russert last month.
Please don't let them use the word "hero" in the copy. That, and "patriot", have recently become so watered down, that they're made completely of water now.
MP
Tony Snow was a patriot like Josef Goebbels was a patriot.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.12.08 - 1:19 pm | #
Hmmm, or did we hang them.
I guess we hanged them.
Simels regrets, etc.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 1:19 pm | #
Speck is the German word for bacon. I assume he is referring to some sort of gourmet version.
Karin Hussein |
07.12.08 - 1:19 pm | #
The Tyrol was mentioned, I think.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 1:20 pm | #
BEFORE they had time to do damage to this country.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08
For all we know, we're experiencing the effects of future irresponsible time travel now.
Uncle Smokes |
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07.12.08 - 1:20 pm | #
Hundreds of miles north of you, in Portland, it's going to be 93.
Should be about that here in Track Town USA.
But the humidity is down from the Olympic Trials week.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 1:20 pm | #
I once had flounder sauteed in butter mit Speck in Kiel. Memorable!
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 1:21 pm | #
."Speck" is german for bacon.
plantsman
But the actual product (at least the typically exported version) is made from the ham and is somewhere between prosciutto and westphaelerschinken. Whn I was a kid, there was a back-bacon product that was more like what we have in the US that was also called "speck", but it was typically eaten raw with black bread.
blerb |
07.12.08 - 1:21 pm | #
Well, I just came from brunch, where I ran into one of my U.S. Senators, Bob Corker. I screwed up my courage and introduced myself and told him we have got to get our troops out of Iraq now.
He was very nice about it. Said he thinks there's about a 10% difference between McCain and Obama on Iraq and thinks both will have troops coming home in a matter of months. I'm not so sure about McCain. Wonder where he got that idea from.
Southern Beale |
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07.12.08 - 1:21 pm | #
For all we know, we're experiencing the effects of future irresponsible time travel now.
HAH! What was that Robot Chicken bit - Dicks with Time Machines.
JeffCO |
07.12.08 - 1:22 pm | #
Brown shoes
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QuentinCompson, Negatory
[doesn't 'get' Zappa reference]
[hangs head in shame]
billy b |
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07.12.08 - 1:22 pm | #
made this wonderful carbonara last night, but used speck instead of pancetta.
I like the finer pasta better, myself, instead of the linguini in that receipe...
atablarasa |
07.12.08 - 1:22 pm | #
Bob Corker was born to sell used cars.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 1:23 pm | #
Rouladen is good eating.
Especially with a side of spaetzle
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 1:23 pm | #
One of the things people forget about Nuremberg is that we hung "journalists" who were actually propagandists there.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
As many times as I have watched this film, it still blows my mind that there were right wing fucktards who wanted the Nazi war criminals to be given a pass because "we're going to need Germany's help" against the big bad old Russkies.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.12.08 - 1:23 pm | #
I thought Speck was Pee Wee Herman's dog.
JeffCO |
07.12.08 - 1:23 pm | #
Black Forest ham is good too. More like a prosciutto.
Karin Hussein |
07.12.08 - 1:24 pm | #
As many times as I have watched this film, it still blows my mind that there were right wing fucktards who wanted the Nazi war criminals to be given a pass because "we're going to need Germany's help" against the big bad old Russkies.
See Werner Von Braun....
atablarasa |
07.12.08 - 1:24 pm | #
I for one, *want* to see the last chopper out of Baghdad. We suck as an occupying military force, and we should suck at it. We've got no right to invade other nations on a whim.
MP |
07.12.08 - 1:24 pm | #
I must say I don't really know what constitutes the distinction between things called "speck" and things called "schinken" in Austria. There's also "geselchtes" and "surfleisch", which I suppose are cured but not necessarily smoked. All very byzantine, really. I guess the Germans with their pork are like the Inuit with their snow.
blerb |
07.12.08 - 1:24 pm | #
I thought Speck was Pee Wee Herman's dog.
I thought Speck was Spock's third cousin from Romulus.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 1:24 pm | #
I feel the urge for lunch coming on. Catch you peeps later.
Karin Hussein |
07.12.08 - 1:24 pm | #
NASA advisor to Lyndon Johnson: "Our Germans are better than their Germans"
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 1:25 pm | #
I for one, *want* to see the last chopper out of Baghdad.
You're not for one you're for, like, a hundred million. We ALL want to see the last chopper out of Baghdad.
Southern Beale |
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07.12.08 - 1:26 pm | #
There was an entire floor of Meat, mostly wursts, in the Kaufhaus Des Westens (once the largest Dept. Store in Europe) in Berlin.
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07.12.08 - 1:26 pm | #
NASA advisor to Lyndon Johnson: "Our Germans are better than their Germans"
They had both Braun *and* brains!
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07.12.08 - 1:26 pm | #
it still blows my mind that there were right wing fucktards who wanted the Nazi war criminals to be given a pass because "we're going to need Germany's help" against the big bad old Russkies.
Better Nazi than Red? Thank you, Prescott Bush!
Southern Beale |
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07.12.08 - 1:27 pm | #
.i used the italian stuff...OMG!
Same diff, propapbly. The part of Italy it came from is most likely the bit of Austria formerly known as "South Tirol", which was taken from them after WWI. They still all speak German there. For Example, the world's greatest mountain climber, Reinhold Messner, is from that part of Italy.
blerb |
07.12.08 - 1:27 pm | #
That's where Loaker Quadratini come from!
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 1:28 pm | #
You're not for one you're for, like, a hundred million. We ALL want to see the last chopper out of Baghdad.
That's either gonna have to be one fast mo-fo or have a lot of close air support. It's a lot farther from Baghdad to the border than it was from Saigon...
Or was this a metaphor?
atablarasa |
07.12.08 - 1:28 pm | #
Phil and Wendy can be the Public Corruption Czars.
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin |
07.12.08 - 1:29 pm | #
NASA advisor to Lyndon Johnson: "Our Germans are better than their Germans"
Apprentice to Darth Holden
They were in Huntsville, Alabama of all places right after the war.
MP |
07.12.08 - 1:30 pm | #
The problem that fascists have had for the last 63 years is that the German fascists gave them a bad name with all that "Final Solution" stuff.
They've been trying to eliminate that stain from the brand all this time.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 1:30 pm | #
Anybody think that Maliki is insisting on a pullout timetable in the SOFA partially to help insure that Obama will be the next US prez they have to deal with? It sure makes his campaign position on Iraq a lot easier to sell to the waverers here.
blerb |
07.12.08 - 1:30 pm | #
I looked at one of my outside thermometers, and it's gotten warmer than I thought, 81F.
I'd better get planting before it actually gets hot.
Doug |
07.12.08 - 1:31 pm | #
"There was a fever over the land. A fever of disgrace, of indignity, of hunger.We had a democracy, yes.
But it was torn by elements within. Above all, there was fear: Fear of today, fear of tomorrow... fear of our neighbors..and fear of ourselves. It was the old story of the sacrificial lamb.
What difference does it make...
if a few political extremists
lose their rights?
What difference does it make
if a few racial minorities lose their rights?"
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.12.08 - 1:31 pm | #
They were in Huntsville, Alabama of all places right after the war.
von Braun and his posse just wanted to play with rockets, it didn't matter who was paying for it, as long as they got to play with their rockets.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 1:31 pm | #
.The problem that fascists have had for the last 63 years is that the German fascists gave them a bad name with all that "Final Solution" stuff.
To be sure, Franco and Mussolini were not nearly so much about racial pogroms.
blerb |
07.12.08 - 1:31 pm | #
They were in Huntsville, Alabama of all places right after the war.
Obama is making it hard for the Republicans to figure out how to attack him. The risk for him is if he also frustrates the voters who need to understand what makes him tick. They don't elect enigmas to the Oval Office.
Is "enigma" your code word for "nigga"? Don't be shy, Dean. If Jesse can say "nuts," you can say "nigga."
Lime Rickey |
07.12.08 - 1:32 pm | #
Envy closing in on jealousy that you saw that one... And kudos... atablarasa
Thanks, but it's not exactly rocket science.
JeffCO |
07.12.08 - 1:32 pm | #
He was very nice about it. Said he thinks there's about a 10% difference between McCain and Obama on Iraq and thinks both will have troops coming home in a matter of months. I'm not so sure about McCain. Wonder where he got that idea from.
Southern Beale | Homepage | 07.12.08 - 1:21 pm | #
McCain will pull the "secret plan to end the war" gambit so voters who are anti-war but worried about democrats and/or colored people can delude themselves.
He's already trying the secret environmentalist.
That shit works as shown by the large number of pro-choice women who consistently vote repuke.
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin |
07.12.08 - 1:32 pm | #
it still blows my mind that there were right wing fucktards who wanted the Nazi war criminals to be given a pass because "we're going to need Germany's help" against the big bad old Russkies.
Better Nazi than Red? Thank you, Prescott Bush!
Southern Beale
whitehouse liars and water cariiers dying... could this be karma?
no schadenfruede here. Just wondering because if that was the case I see a bad moon on the rise for the evil vp and his henchmen
disgruntled - unbanned |
07.12.08 - 1:33 pm | #
.von Braun and his posse just wanted to play with rockets, it didn't matter who was paying for it, as long as they got to play with their rockets.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
His willingness to overlook all that Third Reich stuff, as well as his use of slave labor at Paanemunde, makes Von Braun a pretty ambiguous figure. Many, however, would assert that the Saturn V could never have become a reality in the timeframe it did without him.
blerb |
07.12.08 - 1:33 pm | #
the missiles go up
and where they go down
is not my concern
sez werner von braun
rootless-e, equivalent doctrin |
07.12.08 - 1:35 pm | #
Is "enigma" your code word for "nigga"? Don't be shy, Dean. If Jesse can say "nuts," you can say "nigga."
Lime Rickey
No sniggering! And don't be nigardly with your laughter neither!
disgruntled - unbanned |
07.12.08 - 1:35 pm | #
Is "enigma" your code word for "nigga"? Don't be shy, Dean. If Jesse can say "nuts," you can say "nigga."
heh.
That hit the dean's 'enigma' right on the head.
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07.12.08 - 1:35 pm | #
the Saturn V could never have become a reality in the timeframe it did without him.
blerb
It wouldn't have. The Saturn Five was a wondrous machine, and von Braun was mostly responsible for its creation.
MP |
07.12.08 - 1:36 pm | #
No sniggering! And don't be nigardly with your laughter neither!
disgruntled - unbanned
That's rather spooky.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.12.08 - 1:36 pm | #
What amazed me about Snow was his eagerness to keep doing the Goebbels thing even to his dying breath. It's not like he stood to benefit from the criminal enterprise anymore.
blerb |
07.12.08 - 1:36 pm | #
He lied till he died.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 1:37 pm | #
They don't elect enigmas to the Oval Office.
Proof: El Fucktardo Maximo was installed in office by a 5-4 vote, garnering 50% of the female and 100% of the African-American and Italian-American voters.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 1:37 pm | #
That's rather spooky.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08
So's my love for Obama! Supposed to be funny - those are real words
disgruntled - unbanned |
07.12.08 - 1:38 pm | #
Tony Snow - Satan's new Press Secretary!
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MisterX |
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07.12.08 - 1:38 pm | #
... good one Terry C. Took a while to sink in. Doh!
disgruntled - unbanned |
07.12.08 - 1:39 pm | #
Tony Snow's first task upon arrival at his new location: sucking Tim Russert's flaming cock.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 1:39 pm | #
Naw, it's cool as a cuke down here!
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 1:39 pm | #
.The Saturn Five was a wondrous machine, and von Braun was mostly responsible for its creation.
MP
If weed'a stuck with derivatives of that model instead of digressing into the inordinately complex problem of the shuttle, we'd have a whole lot more stuff going on in orbit than we do now.
blerb |
07.12.08 - 1:39 pm | #
But the Stayshun!
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 1:40 pm | #
What amazed me about Snow was his eagerness to keep doing the Goebbels thing even to his dying breath. It's not like he stood to benefit from the criminal enterprise anymore. blerb
He had a family to see to. But the evil he did lives on.
JeffCO |
07.12.08 - 1:40 pm | #
If weed'a stuck with derivatives of that model instead of digressing into the inordinately complex problem of the shuttle, we'd have a whole lot more stuff going on in orbit than we do now.
There's supposed to be at least TWO manned bases on the moon right now, dammit!
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 1:41 pm | #
What amazed me about Snow was his eagerness to keep doing the Goebbels thing even to his dying breath. It's not like he stood to benefit from the criminal enterprise anymore.
blerb
I said along that there would be no Atwater moment for Snow.
He would continue to lie for and enable the Bush Regime till the second he died.
Sadly, I was correct.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.12.08 - 1:41 pm | #
They don't elect enigmas to the Oval Office.
So now Obama is enigmatic... new code words for too smart for dumb white folk! I'd say the tables have turned
disgruntled - unbanned |
07.12.08 - 1:41 pm | #
If weed'a stuck with derivatives of that model instead of digressing into the inordinately complex problem of the shuttle, we'd have a whole lot more stuff going on in orbit than we do now.
True, but if we'd not bastardized the shuttle, or if we'd upgraded it along the way, or if we'd worked on balloon lifts for the first stage, we might have even gone further yet....
atablarasa |
07.12.08 - 1:41 pm | #
Tony Snow's first task upon arrival at his new location: sucking Tim Russert's flaming cock.
Apprentice to Darth Holden
and taking it up the ass from Jesse Helms.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.12.08 - 1:42 pm | #
If weed'a stuck with derivatives of that model instead of digressing into the inordinately complex problem of the shuttle, we'd have a whole lot more stuff going on in orbit than we do now. blerb
Like space sharks with frikkin laser beams on their heads!
JeffCO |
07.12.08 - 1:42 pm | #
I just wish Broder would retire.
plantsman |
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07.12.08 - 1:42 pm | #
He would continue to lie for and enable the Bush Regime till the second he died.
Sadly, I was correct.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08
and sadly there's no hell...
disgruntled - unbanned |
07.12.08 - 1:43 pm | #
So now Obama is enigmatic... new code words for too smart for dumb white folk! I'd say the tables have turned
disgruntled - unbanned
Hey, he's an elitist, you know, for saying Americans should know another language besides English.
Then again, the ones who are getting their panties in a twist over what he said are the very ones who find English a challenge.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.12.08 - 1:43 pm | #
I just wish Broder would retire.
He'd just go full time on making those speaking engagements, where thousands of dollars are pissed away on paying him.
Apprentice to Darth Holden |
07.12.08 - 1:43 pm | #
Apprentice to Darth Holden
He'll give it a little jazz flute flutter tongue
ErinPDX |
07.12.08 - 1:43 pm | #
and sadly there's no hell...
disgruntled - unbanned
So now Obama is enigmatic... new code words for too smart for dumb white folk!
The fuckers are still waiting for him to start tap-dancing.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.12.08 - 1:45 pm | #
Shell disputes the claim that oil sand is three times as polluting as oil.
They say it is only twice as polluting.
Snow (D-SC) |
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07.12.08 - 1:46 pm | #
Excuse me Obama,
Damn I've been listening to too much winger news in the morning. It's rotting my brain.
Doug |
07.12.08 - 1:46 pm | #
.True, but if we'd not bastardized the shuttle, or if we'd upgraded it along the way, or if we'd worked on balloon lifts for the first stage, we might have even gone further yet....
atablarasa
Not so sure about that. The design constraints imposed by attaching a winged re-entry system to your booster are pretty daunting. I don't know if a balloon lift gets you very much, but I think that a jet ramp assist up the side of Mount Shasta would probably help substantially. Either way, though, ballistic re-entry is just a much lighter thing to design.
blerb |
07.12.08 - 1:46 pm | #
Hey, he's an elitist, you know, for saying Americans should know another language besides English.
Watching dou lobbs get all huffy and smarmy and call Obama condescending was almost too much for me - lobbs is the king of condescension! And what in hades is wrong with wanting Americans to improve themselves and their standing in relation to the rest of the freaking planet?
disgruntled - unbanned |
07.12.08 - 1:46 pm | #
How much closer? And is the Doomsday Clock on GMT?
Accuracy in Media are the worst of right-wing shills, and what you cite is an excellent example.
They suggest, by mentioning the Bulletin and their Doomsday Clock, that Iran's missile test caused the Bulletin to revise the Clock, thus implying that the Bulletin recognized the seriousness of the event.
In fact, the Bulletin did no such thing. The last time the Clock was changed was for several events of substance in 2007, including a nuclear weapons test by North Korea.
AIM are a bunch of devious shits.
montag |
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07.12.08 - 1:48 pm | #
T Boone Pickens says that America cannot allow Canada to sell oil to China.
T Boone may not quite grasp the idea of capitalism.
Snow (D-SC) |
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07.12.08 - 1:48 pm | #
Basically, once it was established that a fully reusable, practically useful single stage to orbit system is a physical impossibility, the idea of the shuttle should have been scrapped.
blerb |
07.12.08 - 1:48 pm | #
A lot of dough was spent on JFK's moonshot. Money that could have been put to good use elsewhere.
But by pulling that enormous stunt off, just like at then close of World War Two, we had the rest of the planet's jaw dropping at what this Nation could accomplish.
That's a hell of a lot of goodwill. And we fucking blew it.
MP |
07.12.08 - 1:51 pm | #
Wait till we have our first Asian-American nominee - he or she will be completely inscrutable!
Obama's step-dad is/was Indonesian, and his half sister is half-Indonesian.
His extended family tree is fascinating.
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins |
07.12.08 - 1:51 pm | #
Basically, once it was established that a fully reusable, practically useful single stage to orbit system is a physical impossibility, the idea of the shuttle should have been scrapped.
This is not something that I've thought about in a long time, so I'm seriously asking: Some of the things that the shuttle has done, like servicing the Hubble, would seem to be difficult with a capsule, so how would those things have been managed? And how will those things be managed when we go back to the capsule?
atablarasa |
07.12.08 - 1:53 pm | #
What's up with Postville? Our government destroying entire american towns again?
Mike |
07.12.08 - 1:54 pm | #
didn't know that, so thanks! i always associated italian 'bacon' with pancetta, and 'speck' as german bacon, not so unlike ours...so i didn't know what to expect when the wife brought home this italian stuff.
this italian stuff was as thin as prosciutto, very lean and dry, amazing complex smoke flavor. i'm hooked.
When will the press ask the simple question that will lead to a thousand follow-ups: "BARACK OBAMA, WHO ARE YOU?"
Only de Shadow know.
Lime Rickey |
07.12.08 - 1:55 pm | #
I don't even think the moon landing was necessary for PR purposes. We did after all invent the airplane, motion pictures, mass production, the digital computer, the telephone, television, the transistor, atomic power, and recombinatn DNA technology. But it certainly had penache.
blerb |
07.12.08 - 1:55 pm | #
His extended family tree is fascinating.
Just no more cuttings from the shrub family.
JeffCO |
07.12.08 - 1:56 pm | #
"There are those in our own country, too... who today speak of the protection of country...of survival.
A decision must be made
in the life of every nation...at the very moment when the grasp of the enemy is at its throat. Then it seems that the only way to survive
is to use the means of the enemy...to rest survival upon what is expedient,
to look the other way.
The answer to that is: Survival as what?
A country isn't a rock.
It's not an extension of one's self.
It's what it stands for. It's what it stands for when standing for something is the most difficult.
Before the people of the world..."
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.12.08 - 1:56 pm | #
FReeper has a question for Obama:
I have a question for FReeper:
Were you BORN that stupid or did you become so gradually?
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.12.08 - 1:57 pm | #
A New Manhattan Project captures what is best about the innovation of the free market by creating large prizes for developing new energy ideas.
Uh, Rep. Forbes, why does the free market need government money as an incentive?
Snow (D-SC) |
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07.12.08 - 1:58 pm | #
.Some of the things that the shuttle has done, like servicing the Hubble, would seem to be difficult with a capsule, so how would those things have been managed? And how will those things be managed when we go back to the capsule?
atablarasa
You could always put various utility and habitation modules ala Skylab on orbit, that you could then boost or retro to different orbits as necessary. The capsule is just the part that re-enters the crew. One real loss without the shuttle is that there's no easy way to re-enter bigger stuff than the crew in one piece without it, but it's not like we actually landed the Hublle in order to fix it.
blerb |
07.12.08 - 1:59 pm | #
Uh, Rep. Forbes, why does the free market need government money as an incentive?
Snow (D-SC) | Homepage | 07.12.08 - 1:58 pm | #
Socialize the risk, privatize the profits, of course. I mean, duh.
Mike |
07.12.08 - 1:59 pm | #
The world stood up and took notice at the raw buying power of the US middle class.
We could put fucking enormous money, instantly, into any problem.
Splitting the atom. conquering polio, landing on the Moon.
When will the press ask the simple question that will lead to a thousand follow-ups: "BARACK OBAMA, WHO ARE YOU?"
The junior U S Senator from the State of Illinois and presumptive Democratic nominee for President of the United States. Who the hell are you?
Snow (D-SC) |
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07.12.08 - 1:59 pm | #
TRUTH s h e e t s
Thumper Johnson |
07.12.08 - 2:00 pm | #
If we torture mexicans before we deport them, we'll find out where they're coming from
Mike |
07.12.08 - 2:00 pm | #
"BARACK OBAMA, WHO ARE YOU?"
Try reading once in awhile, tear yourself away from Faux News and Rush, and you might find out.
immigration is a ticking time bomb
Mike |
07.12.08 - 2:00 pm | #
The capsule is just the part that re-enters the crew.
And if you thought it was painful the first time....
JeffCO |
07.12.08 - 2:01 pm | #
immigration is a ticking time bomb
Mike
Why are you always so UPBEAT?
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.12.08 - 2:01 pm | #
Of course, it has been brought to my attention that despite what I thought John McCain is not, in fact, a natural born U. S. citizen.
Snow (D-SC) |
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07.12.08 - 2:01 pm | #
Who the hell are you?
Snow (D-SC)
A nobody and a failure at everything he's ever done.
Like 99% of Freepers.
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 |
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07.12.08 - 2:02 pm | #
watching the guy on PBS do barbq - gawd it looks awesome! I love Saturdays!
disgruntled - unbanned |
07.12.08 - 2:02 pm | #
Were you BORN that stupid or did you become so gradually?
Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 \
And a little Jimmy Buffett for you.
Were you born an asshole?, Or did you work at it your whole life?
Either way it worked out fine, 'cause you're an asshole tonight.
Yes you're an A S S H O L E..., And don't you try to blame it on me.
You deserve all the credit., You're an asshole tonight.
You were an asshole yesterday., You're an asshole tonight.
And I've got a feelin', you'll be an asshole the rest of your life.
And I was talkin' to your mother
just the other night., I told her I thought you were an asshole.
She said, "Yes. I think you're right."
And all your friends are assholes,
'cause you've known them your whole life.
And somebody told me you've got an asshole for a wife.
DWD - S☮S |
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07.12.08 - 2:02 pm | #
A lot of dough was spent on JFK's moonshot. Money that could have been put to good use elsewhere.
But by pulling that enormous stunt off, just like at then close of World War Two, we had the rest of the planet's jaw dropping at what this Nation could accomplish.
It wasn't just the rest of the world. We needed it after the riots and the war and the Rooskies beating us in other space things...
atablarasa |
07.12.08 - 2:06 pm | #
Either way, though, ballistic re-entry is just a much lighter thing to design.
blerb | 07.12.08 - 1:46 pm | #
Why I oughta.....straight to the moon Alice, straight to the moon.
Shared Humanity |
07.12.08 - 2:09 pm | #
Ralph Kramden could have got us to the moon faster but they cancelled the show in 56.
Shared Humanity |
07.12.08 - 2:10 pm | #
NASA advisor to Lyndon Johnson: "Our Germans are better than their Germans"
Mort Sahl was a NASA advisor?
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QuentinCompson, Negatory |
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07.12.08 - 2:27 pm | #