I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarMe and a cookie


GravatarOne gigantic cookie that covers the entire cookie sheet.


GravatarDamn, I don't to get depressed and read the link.


GravatarHappy Anniversary, QL!


GravatarNo doubt, it's a Glenn Beck reference.


Gravatarpoop
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GravatarHi Vicki. Read last night's thread, glad you're doing well.


GravatarwhN kAN eYe HaS mi KidZ baK?

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GravatarMe and a cookie
ql-was in NY


That's no way to refer to the bread made holy flesh of Our Lord through transubsta....

Ooops, wrong thread.


GravatarI can't deal with the religious right now.

And I mean that as "right now."


GravatarThis thread belongs to Vicki since she actually listens to this horrid Beck person. Fortunately, I never have and hope I never do.


GravatarI truly wanna know how Glenn Beck sold his show to HNN?

It's awful.


GravatarWell, we were having a debate as to how one defines themselves as "true Christians", but there is little doubt as to how we should define someone as a "dangerous racist wingnut pigfucker".


GravatarYes, I do listen to him.

I do it to hear things like, "The founding fathers were inspired by the Bible when they wrote this most awesome document, the Constitution."


GravatarFlying Spaghetti Monster chapter at Missouri State University.


GravatarAha!


GravatarI repost:

Good. That means I don't have to give up making matzohs from the blood of Christian babies.
steve simels | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 11:31 am | #

Good to see the old craft tradition still being kept going. Maybe there should be a Williamsburg village kinda historical re-enactment - could even be in Williamsburg Brooklyn.
rootless2

There is a church here in Tirol which was built on the alleged spot where a xian tot was abducted and murdered by itinerant jews.It's been officially debunked but the kid ("Anderl of Rinn" has already been beatified by the catholic church, and has "followers". Creepy.


Gravatarwhat about the am loons --everything they say is thru the eyes of the entitled white people of the upper classes--


GravatarBeck's got two good brain cells and a microphone. Two good brain cells and a microphone.


Gravatarmore from the same episode:

"Say what you will about religious tolerance, but anybody that tells me I can't have pumpkin pie and a drumstick, you're an extremist."

so apparently all jews are extremists. they won't let poor glenn enjoy his christmas ham.


GravatarAs repellent as most of Glenn Beck's opinions are, I'm even more offended by his smarmy delivery and obnoxious personality.

Call me shallow.


GravatarBut he got that combination goofy stupidity and vicious hate I want in my news anchors.


GravatarGlenn Beck..because he will say outloud the things his bosses are thinking


GravatarBeck's got two good brain cells and a microphone

don't exaggerate.

now way he has TWO.


GravatarGlenn Beck to Muslim-American guest:

“How do we know the difference between you and those that are trying to kill us?”


"Because you're not dead, dipshit."


GravatarI am a Christian, but I don't believe in Christ or the Holy Spirit or any of that crap.


GravatarSomeone should ask Beck how we can be sure he isn't planning on blowing up a federal building


GravatarGood morning, batistas!  Welcome to Confusionville


Gravatari never watch glenn beck. if his face appears, the channel changes or the teevee goes off.

now i come here and have to suffer second hand beck.


Gravatarnow way he has TWO.
dirk gently, sociopathetic


Yes, two. But they're not networked.


Gravatar"Say what you will about religious tolerance, but anybody that tells me I can't have pumpkin pie and a drumstick, you're an extremist."

But tell a woman she can't have an abortion, and you're a Brave Christian Soldier.


GravatarRepost for CoT:

Ok, you have a hypothetical Hindu who says "I am a Christian," and you respond, "you can't be, because all Christian denominations say you have to accept this creed, and you don't", and the dude says, "well how do you know those are Christian denominations and mine is not," and you say, "because they are in the club and you're not," and he says "well how do I get to be in the club" and you say "you have to be a real Christian."
Culture of TrÜth


OK, thanks.

We're talking about different things. Anyone can, of course, label him/herself "a Christian," no matter what he/she actually believes.

Which, since people with widely divergent beliefs call themselves Christians, creates an identity problem.

GWPDA's post above says it well - how do Christians recognize each other, by the label or the beliefs?

The formal, official answer to that question is, "by the beliefs."

This isn't actually a new conversation - the purpose of the Council of Nicaea was to "define" Christianity, and what writings were "good" versus "bad."

It came up with the Bible, and the Nicene Creed. Protestants wrote the Apostle's Creed, and there are variations between them, but there are a lot of commonalities.


GravatarI am a Christian, but I don't believe in Christ or the Holy Spirit or any of that crap.
Halfdan


You must believe in Bingo.


Gravatarnow i come here and have to suffer second hand beck.

I recommend putting a toilet seat cover over your monitor to trap the eCooties.


GravatarBut tell a woman she can't have an abortion, and you're a Brave Christian Soldier.
Dr. Wu | 10.06.07 - 11:48 am | #



" say what you want about religious tolerance, but anybody that tells me I can't have sex with whomever I want, you're an extremist. Anybody that tells me what I may read or what television I can watch or whom I can vote for, you're an extremist."

(second hand dirk)


GravatarMy dear, this is far from the most basic tenet - rather it is the origin of the Protestant Christian tenets of faith.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 11:41 am | #

As an outsider, I can't see that there is a basic tenet of faith in Christianity - certainly, there exist or have existed self-identifying Christian sects with precepts ranging from the revolutionary communism of Thomas Munzer to the right wing lunacy of Opus-Dei which have tried very hard to exterminate each other.

Religious doctrines are coherent and harmonious wholes only to the believers.


GravatarSomeone should ask Beck how we can be sure he isn't planning on blowing up a federal building
Liars for Bush


Other than the fact that he's a worthless coward, of course. I don't think Beck could blow up a balloon.


GravatarBeck's got two good brain cells and a microphone. Two good brain cells and a microphone.

Where it's at!


GravatarMaybe it's been said before, but you know what is so ironic about Ann Coulter's statement, which follows, on women not being able to vote?

If we took away women's right to vote, we'd never have to worry about another Democrat president. It's kind of a pipe dream, it's a personal fantasy of mine, but I don't think it's going to happen. And it is a good way of making the point that women are voting so stupidly, at least single women.

It's that she violated Florida law in 2006 by voting at the wrong precinct.

Now, who's stupid?


GravatarThere is a church here in Tirol which was built on the alleged spot where a xian tot was abducted and murdered by itinerant jews.

There's no such thing as a Christian child, or a Muslim child, just children whose parents haven't figured out they're gonna make up their own minds what they believe, eventually.


Gravatarbeck behaving like a racist twit is hardly news - cnn allowing it ditto - seriously our media looks exactly like it was portrayed in the film Network - and the guy most like those movie characters is a cnn guy - I can't think of his name it ends in EZ


GravatarYou must believe in Bingo.
SteveLG | 10.06.07 - 11:49 am | #


the dyslexic farmer's dog.


GravatarBernard Goldberg: "[W]omen and minorities" have "pushed the newsroom further and further to the left"

Summary: On The O'Reilly Factor, discussing what Bill O'Reilly perceived as the waning influence of "major elite media institutions," Bernard Goldberg asserted: "[W]hen women and minorities came into journalism, they pushed the newsroom further and further to the left. Everybody agrees that minorities are overwhelmingly liberal in this country, and so are young women." Goldberg later stated: "[T]he point I was trying to make ... is that this problem didn't start last week or the week before. Journalism has been moving further and further to the left. It's a good thing that we have women and minorities in the newsroom. That's the good part. The bad part is that by moving further and further to the left, they've been eroding trust in journalism for a long, long time."


Gravatardon't exaggerate. now way he has TWO.

He's not where it's at.


Gravatarnow i come here and have to suffer second hand beck.


I'm a looser, baby, so why don't you kill me?


GravatarI don't watch Glenn Beck, but apparently most sentient human bengs don't, either (not talking about you, of course, Vicki ). My question is, given that this guy is apparently ratings poison, how does CNN justify keeping him on?

The only possible explanation is that there is a hidden agenda.


Gravatarjac,

fair enough.


GravatarGlenn Beck to Muslim-American guest:“How do we know the difference between you and those that are trying to kill us?”

"I flunked flight training?"


GravatarWhere it's at!

Beck got a good dumb break.


Gravatara very tired afternoon moonbats

my darling niece has gone back home, so Chez Moonbootica is at peace again

and have just recovered from a hangover, drunk rather a lot last night!


GravatarGWPDA's post above says it well - how do Christians recognize each other, by the label or the beliefs?

As I sang for so long in the Catholic Church, over and over and over again:

"They will know we are Christians by our love, by our love, they will know we are Christians by our love."

Seriously. That was one of the songs on a regular basis every Sunday for years.


GravatarJohn Fowles on Martin Amis and others


GravatarThe only possible explanation is that there is a hidden agenda.
Doc | 10.06.07 - 11:51 am | #


but he's the worst of even that bunch.

the only two possibilities are that he has 1) a very good agent or 2) some very incriminating evidence.


GravatarI'm a looser, baby, so why don't you kill me?

I think I'm a racist but it makes me kinda nervous to say so.


GravatarThe only possible explanation is that there is a hidden agenda.
Doc | 10.06.07 - 11:51 am | #
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or backing out of his contract would be expensive tehn just letting go on till the end of the contract. thats not likely tho


Gravatar"[W]hen women and minorities came into journalism, they pushed the newsroom further and further to the left. "

Also, the newsroom crime rate went up and every 28 days all the reporters get all erratic and cranky.


GravatarIt's that she violated Florida law in 2006 by voting at the wrong precinct.

Now, who's stupid?


heh.


GravatarOther than the fact that he's a worthless coward, of course. I don't think Beck could blow up a balloon.
Dr. Wu


I would love to see one of his guests just get up in his face one good time. He'd be squealing for security so fast it would shatter plastic.


GravatarI must say that now that the cosmologists have laid the idea of the Omega Point to rest, I am bereft of my ability to adhere dogmatically to my Tiplerist creed. Hopefully, a new prophet will emerge in the coming years to lead us to a neo-Tiplerian spirituality that does not depend on the ultimate gravitational collapse of the Universe.

Does that still qualify me as a Christian?


GravatarSeriously. That was one of the songs on a regular basis every Sunday for years.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 11:52 am | #


Nobody ever expects the love of the Spanish Inquisition.


GravatarDid someone say Beck was a Mormon?


GravatarGlenn Beck to Muslim-American guest:“How do we know the difference between you and those that are trying to kill us?”


"The name 'Timothy McVeigh' mean anything to you, motherfucker?"


GravatarJournalism has been moving further and further to the left.

You've gotta hand it to the wingnuts. Once they come up with a good line of bullshit, they can milk it for decades.


GravatarWhat's the problem with that? If we don't ask the hard questions, how will we know whether he attended the same madrasa as B. Hussein Obama(D-NotQuiteBlackButStillScary)?


Gravatarthere are those who think that if the far side of the moon http://images.google.com/imgres?...l%3Den%26sa% 3DN
had been facing earth, the eye-like crater in the middle of it would've changed early human perception of god...


GravatarSouthern Beale--Damn, the rightwads are finally getting it! If they could only get rid of the uppity women and minorities, and get the rest all good ol' submissive like, then life would be good again!

Of course, for Bernard--weren't Jews considered one of the "minorities" once upon a time...? Way to go, guys.

He's still in the subset of White Men, so maybe he thinks he'll be A-OK once the Anti-Renaissance occures....

Cripes.


GravatarDid someone say Beck was a Mormon?
pie | 10.06.07 - 11:53 am | #


no, a moron.


GravatarBeck's in love with the new pollution. He's alone in a new delusion.


Gravatar"They will know we are Christians by our love,


Aaaach! Put on some other music quick, before it sticks in my brain.
I, too, heard that hymn way too often.


Gravatarof course Oct 22nd is 'Islamofascist Awareness Week'


GravatarDid someone say Beck was a Mormon?
pie


He's apparently a Scientologist.


Gravatarno, a moron.

First and foremost, a moron.


GravatarHey blerb, speaking of cosmology. When the Big Bang expanded exponentially in the first billionth of a billionth of a trillionth of a second, is that in "Earth time" or in "entire mass of the universe time." Because if it's the latter, it would actually be a bit longer if viewed from here on Earth. No?


GravatarI am bereft of my ability to adhere dogmatically to my Tiplerist creed.

i adhere to the apollo creed.


GravatarGlenn Beck is a tosser


Gravatar"[W]hen women and minorities came into journalism, they pushed the newsroom further and further to the left. "

Weirdly, the newsrooms have found a large supply of bitter right wing harpies like the spite-girls who were writing about Gore, Judith Miller, ...


GravatarDirk, did ya see this?


GravatarCofT--Beck probably agrees with Tim McVeigh--afterall, he did attack a government building and what's a little collateral damage?


Gravatar♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

sitten's in the shower. We gettin' ready for Apple Fest, or something.
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Gravatarand have just recovered from a hangover, drunk rather a lot last night!
Moonbootica, Tea Drinker


It was the Shiraz. I'm sure of it.


GravatarWhen the Big Bang expanded exponentially in the first billionth of a billionth of a trillionth of a second, is that in "Earth time" or in "entire mass of the universe time."

it's all relative
-- albert einstein's cousin


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Gravatarjac,

fair enough.
Culture of TrÜth


It is a discussion as old as Christianity itself - Gnostics vs. the hierarchy, personal faith vs. communal faith.

And it's one of the reasons (the other being that the whole thing sounds insane when you analyze it) that I label myself an agnostic.

There may be something out there - but if there is, it doesn't involve nailing a nice man to a tree and drinking wine.


Gravatar"[W]hen women and minorities came into journalism, they pushed the newsroom further and further to the left. "


Thus admitting, in an unguarded moment, that the majority of the population is liberal.


Gravatarof course Oct 22nd is 'Islamofascist Awareness Week'

Break out the Hummus!


GravatarDid someone say Beck was a Mormon?
pie


You misheard me.

I said he was a hate-spewing fascist scumbag motherfucker.


GravatarGlenn Beck is a tosser

Never trust anyone with a superfluous consonant in his or her name.


GravatarIndeed I am in Sioux Falls. I can look out my apartment window upon the minor expanse of the Empire Mall.

Were you born in South Dakota? That is, are you a "true" South Dakotan?
Uncle Smokes | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 11:46 am | #


born here... yep. you must be in the valhalla apts...


Gravatarnow i come here and have to suffer second hand beck.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
________________________________________

I feel ya, but it's no worse than happily killfiling trolls, only to be haunted by the "killed" comments in ghost form, usually several times over, pasted and copied by troll-baiters and responders in their replies.


GravatarThe bold, it burns!


Gravatar"They will know we are Christians by our love, by our love, they will know we are Christians by our love."

Boy, that's over now, eh? Now you'd better starting hating brown people and loving tax cuts for the rich, or Jesus doesn't want anything to do with your hippie ass.


Gravatar"Everybody agrees that minorities are overwhelmingly liberal in this country, and so are young women."

Translation:

"The majority of people in this country are overwhelmingly liberal."

At least he admitted it.


Gravatarfokowi at lake cabin:

The thread changed when I replied to your question. So I'll repost.

Indeed I am in Sioux Falls. I can look out my apartment window upon the minor expanse of the Empire Mall.

Were you born in South Dakota? That is, are you a "true" South Dakotan?


GravatarDirk, did ya see this?
dew, omnischievous grin


yes, thanks dew! moonie showed it to me a few days ago. very exciting.

it is extremely depressing, though, that adams will not be personally involved. i understand that he finally completed his phone call.


GravatarAs he welcomes young guests to Downing Street this afternoon, Gordon Brown is bound to wonder whether his son John, four in a few days time, will be able to celebrate another birthday in No 10.

Tomorrow the prime minister will retire to his study, armed with new polling and a telephone, to read the electoral runes, consult colleagues, and ultimately reach the toughest decision of his career: whether to call an autumn election after little more than 100 days in power.


http://politics.guardian.co.uk/ c...2185020,00.html


GravatarThus admitting, in an unguarded moment, that the majority of the population is liberal.
Doc | 10.06.07 - 11:57 am | #


But not real-americans, who are, by definition, nasty white men with hate in their hearts.


Gravatarof course Oct 22nd is 'Islamofascist Awareness Week'

Break out the Hummus!


Falafel, motherfucker!

Seriously, aside from being racist, this is just really dumb. It's the stupidity that offends me the most. I mean, "what's the difference?" I don't know, Glenn, you snivelling kitchen appliance, what's the difference between you and every other paunchy white dickhead who's a disappointment to himself and all the women he meets?

A.


GravatarWhen the Big Bang expanded exponentially in the first billionth of a billionth of a trillionth of a second, is that in "Earth time" or in "entire mass of the universe time."

Ask Universe man - he's got a watch with a minute hand, millenium hand, and an eon hand.


GravatarBack in February Glenn Beck called Olbermann an “intolerant ideologue” whose ideas “smack of the same McCarthyism [Edward R.] Murrow fought so valiantly against.”

And:

"A wolf in sheep’s clothing. The very dangerously bigoted guy who is selling himself as a pragmatic philosopher. I don’t think he sees his own bigotry. There’s something about him that suggests that, one night, he’ll say something that will cost him his career in television."

Which, oddly enough, describes Glenn Beck to a "T".


Gravatar...paunchy white dickhead who's a disappointment to himself and all the women he meets?

OOooooo. This is very good.


GravatarSallyh -- sittenpretty wants to know how the ankle is doing, and how did you break it, Monday...?
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GravatarI don't know, Glenn, you snivelling kitchen appliance, what's the difference between you and every other paunchy white dickhead who's a disappointment to himself and all the women he meets?

"I have my own show!"
- Glenn Beck


GravatarNever trust anyone with a superfluous consonant in his or her name.
JeffCO | 10.06.07 - 11:58 am | #


i sez that every consonant in my name is superfluous.


GravatarGordon Brown as PM has the power to dissolve Parliament and call for a General Election

part of his royal prerogative, powers formerly enjoyed by the monarch which passed down to the PM


GravatarThus admitting, in an unguarded moment, that the majority of the population is liberal.

Tell those girls with rifles for minds that their jokes don't make me laugh - they only make me feel like dying.


Gravataris that in "Earth time" or in "entire mass of the universe time." Because if it's the latter, it would actually be a bit longer if viewed from here on Earth. No?
Halfdan


Beats me how they reckon it. I have pondered the same question myself, though, i.e. what fram of reference one can use to measure time during the emergence from the cosmic singularity. In the same vein, I have wondered how, since we are taught that below a certain radius gravity overwhelms all other forces and compresses everything to a point, did the Big Bang ever get off the ground?


Anyhow, the whole point of Tiplerism was that as the Universe recollapsed to the final singularity, relativistic time dilation and the ever-faster pace of particle interactions would produce a subjective eternity.


GravatarDid someone say Beck was a Mormon?
pie


Yes he's a Mormon.


GravatarI don't know, Glenn, you snivelling kitchen appliance, what's the difference between you and every other paunchy white dickhead who's a disappointment to himself and all the women he meets?
Athenae


More hair and a shtty TV show.


GravatarUncle Smokes!

When I was a kid, we used to go to South Dakota a lot. My dad likes it there. There, and Wyoming, because there's lots of wildlife and not so many people.

A.


Gravatarhe's got a watch with a minute hand, millenium hand, and an eon hand.

Even so, my money's on Particle Man.


GravatarOkaay, we's gone for a bit...
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Gravatarsmokes... answered you just before you re-asked. look up a few posts...

songbird. mornin'...


GravatarNot surprisingly, 90% of Fox and CNN's airtime is dedicated to Beck and clones thereof.


GravatarPeace will come (according to my plan)


GravatarI love a man with an eon hand.


GravatarGordon Brown as PM has the power to dissolve Parliament

does it fizz?


GravatarCoke to SteveNS.


GravatarI love a man with an eon hand.

Watertiger


GravatarStupid haloscan.

Watertiger *heart* Dr. Who?

A.


Gravatarrelativistic time dilation and the ever-faster pace of particle interactions would produce a subjective eternity

Pfft - Toby produces that every time he shows up here.


GravatarTime to go apply for my weekly provisions at the People's Grocery Store of Berkeley. BBL...


GravatarSeriously, if cable allows the kind of crap Beck spews, where does it stop?

Imus was taken off broadcast, but even cable (MSNBC) said it was over the top, beyond the pale.

Where does it stop? Each group gets to have it Hate Out talk show?


GravatarI love a man with an eon hand.

It's all in the wrist.


Gravatarborn here... yep. you must be in the valhalla apts...
fokowi at lake cabin


Damn! You do know your way around.

I suddenly feel exposed.


GravatarQL--what's this about a giant cookie? Sounds interesting....


GravatarI love a man with an eon hand.

Without snark, she points.


GravatarWatertiger *heart* Dr. Who?

naturally.


GravatarI suddenly feel exposed.
Uncle Smokes


Close your blinds!


GravatarI wish somebody had really made "Home For Purim".


GravatarDirk, did ya see this?
dew, omnischievous grin


Awwwww! [sniff!]


GravatarGlenn Blech has been practicing that annoying voice break for years so he can replace Andy Rooney.

"'Dja ever wonder how to tell an illegal immigrant from an islamofascist?"


GravatarBeck needs a good cock-punching.


Gravataris that in "Earth time" or in "entire mass of the universe time." Because if it's the latter, it would actually be a bit longer if viewed from here on Earth. No?
Halfdan

Beats me how they reckon it. I have pondered the same question myself


I've always understood it to be "earth seconds" because of the relativity of time.


GravatarWhen the Big Bang expanded exponentially in the first billionth of a billionth of a trillionth of a second, is that in "Earth time" or in "entire mass of the universe time." Because if it's the latter, it would actually be a bit longer if viewed from here on Earth. No?
______________________________________________

You should ask the only one who might've been around to see it: Schrödinger's cat.


GravatarUncle S, I owe you an email.


GravatarClose your blinds!
SteveNS


Made me look, dirty crook!

[Revel in that Skinner Box power, knowing that you just caused me to look over my shoulder through the open blinds.]


Gravatar
and have just recovered from a hangover, drunk rather a lot last night!
Moonbootica, Tea Drinker | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 11:52 am


Figured with the English win over Australia, you'd be drunk now.


GravatarWhere does it stop? Each group gets to have it Hate Out talk show?
jawbone


When advertisers put their dollars on another show.


GravatarI suddenly feel exposed.
Uncle Smokes | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 12:05 pm | #


secret's safe with me.

go to drinking liberally at skellys on fridays?


GravatarTEHRAN, Oct 6 (Reuters) - Iran said on Saturday it had 43 cholera cases, four times more than previously announced, and added they were mostly near Iraq where there has been an outbreak of the disease, an Iranian news agency reported.

A World Health Organisation (WHO) official said on Thursday 10 cases had been confirmed in Iran. WHO has urged neighbours of Iraq, where cholera has struck more than 3,300 people since mid-August, to strengthen their defences against the disease.

Iran shares a long border with Iraq. Many Iraqi refugees have fled to Iran to escape violence at home, while Iranian Shi'ite Muslim pilgrims often cross into Iraq to visit holy sites there.

"The total number of confirmed cholera cases has reached 43, most of them identified in (Iran's western) Kurdistan province among those who used to frequently cross the Iraqi border," Health Ministry official Mohsen Zahraie was quoted as saying.


http://www.reuters.com/article/m...s/ idUSBLA649266


GravatarI wish somebody had really made "Home For Purim".
HoneyBearKelly


Fuckin' suits.


Gravatar[Revel in that Skinner Box power, knowing that you just caused me to look over my shoulder through the open blinds.]
Uncle Smokes


For this very reason, I always want to yell "Sheets!", even when there's not.


GravatarI suddenly feel exposed.
Uncle Smokes


Then put your pants back on. Who do you think you are, NTodd?


GravatarI wish somebody had really made "Home For Purim".

I'm still waiting for Guffman.


Gravatar
When advertisers put their dollars on another show.
jac | 10.06.07 - 12:08 pm | #


Much of US "news" media has nothing to do with generating profits directly anymore. Instead, it is about propaganda.


GravatarQL--what's this about a giant cookie? Sounds interesting....
jawbone


Making cookies for the very first time and I made them too big and close together. Never too old to learn.


GravatarI had some sympathy for Mormonism as ah historical movement, but now I see the Mormon church as an enemy within.
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Gravatarfokowi: hello, love.


That is, are you a "true" South Dakotan?


Is this conversation going to end with "Die, heretic!!"?


GravatarMuch of US "news" media has nothing to do with generating profits directly anymore. Instead, it is about propaganda.

A certain Halliburton ad with a soldier getting a phone call from home comes to mind.


GravatarIn the same vein, I have wondered how, since we are taught that below a certain radius gravity overwhelms all other forces and compresses everything to a point, did the Big Bang ever get off the ground?

Haven't they considered antigravity to explain that? The same force that explains how the universe expands at a faster rate over time?


GravatarKurdish businessmen and investors have written a letter to U.S. President George Bush urging him to ask Iran to open its borders with their semi-independent enclave.

The letter, Kurdish regional government officials say, has already been delivered to Iraqi President Jalal Talabani to pass over to Bush.

Last month Iran closed its five border points with the Kurdish region in protest at the arrest of an Iranian by U.S. forces in the Kurdish city of Sulaimaniya.

The U.S. says it detained the Iranian on suspicion of smuggling sophisticated roadside bombs to rebels fighting its troops in Iraq. Kurdish, Iraqi and Iranian officials say the Iranian was on an official trade mission in the region.

The closure has led to shortages of basic stuffs in Iraqi Kurdistan and steep price hikes.


http://www.azzaman.com/english/i...-10- 05kurd2.htm


Gravatarhey darlin'... i'm hoping not! lol


Gravatargo to drinking liberally at skellys on fridays?
fokowi at lake cabin


Only once last year. I felt like a fish out of water, an interloper. Most were such earnest Democrats that I didn't feel free to indulge in my usual politely subversive humor.

I probably ought to try again. The folks were awfully nice, which is one thing South Dakota has going for it.


Gravatarsitten's in the shower. We gettin' ready for Apple Fest, or something.
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Jeffraham | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 11:57 am | #


Give her my best, you lucky dog, you.


Gravatarql it really doesn't matter what the cookie looks like.

Have a great day!


GravatarHBK - I'm making them for the pot luck over by the pool later today. Come on down and join us.


Gravatarql it really doesn't matter what the cookie looks like.

I am objectively pro-giant cookie.


GravatarI probably ought to try again. The folks were awfully nice, which is one thing South Dakota has going for it.
Uncle Smokes | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 12:13 pm | #


they need some subverting as they're more of a social club. not activist at all.

maybe some friday we'll both go and rattle their fucking cage a little...


GravatarOnly once last year. I felt like a fish out of water, an interloper. Most were such earnest Democrats that I didn't feel free to indulge in my usual politely subversive humor.

Lemme guess: Kossack?

(I kid. I kid because I love).


GravatarThe government has earmarked $25 million for the millions of Iraqi refugees fleeing ongoing U.S. military operations and violence at home to Syria and Jordan.

$15 million will go to Syria where nearly 1.5 million Iraqis are seeking refuge. Jordan will get $8 million and Lebanon $2 million.

The exodus of Iraqis to Syria and Jordan is reported to have strapped the countries’ meager resources, strained their public utilities and caused steep prices hikes as well as shortages of some basic commodities.

The Syrian Deputy Prime Minister for Economic Affairs Abdullah Al-Durdi says the presence of the huge numbers of Iraqis costs his country $1.6 billion a year.

As the numbers of Iraqis fleeing their country surges, the occupying powers, mainly the U.S. and Britain, have shown no concern or moral responsibility towards their plight.


http://www.azzaman.com/english/i...7-10- 06kurd.htm


Gravatar"what's the difference?"
So in other words, Beck (and CNN) are saying, yes, it is an anti-Muslim crusade? I mean everything, the this whole war on terror and invasion of Iraq.


Gravatarql if you had told me yesterday I'd be down there today.

It's awfully hot and sticky here today.


Gravatarmaybe some friday we'll both go and rattle their fucking cage a little...
fokowi at lake cabin


Email me from the address shown on the homepage link.

I am jazzed to realize there's someone nearby--felt so cut off here in the Great Plain.

In the meantime, I've got some nonsense to attend to.

Y'all take care of your good selves!


Gravatarvia TPM

Twenty years ago, televangelist Oral Roberts said he was reading a spy novel when God appeared to him and told him to raise $8 million for Roberts' university, or else he would be "called home."
Now, his son, Oral Roberts University President Richard Roberts, says God is speaking again, telling him to deny lurid allegations in a lawsuit that threatens to engulf this 44-year-old Bible Belt college in scandal.
Richard Roberts is accused of illegal involvement in a local political campaign and lavish spending at donors' expense, including numerous home remodeling projects, use of the university jet for his daughter's senior trip to the Bahamas, and a red Mercedes convertible and a Lexus SUV for his wife, Lindsay.
She is accused of dropping tens of thousands of dollars on clothes, awarding nonacademic scholarships to friends of her children and sending scores of text messages on university-issued cell phones to people described in the lawsuit as "underage males."


Who woulda thunk "Stacy's Mom" was being played out in Tulsa?


GravatarSo in other words, Beck (and CNN) are saying, yes, it is an anti-Muslim crusade? I mean everything, the this whole war on terror and invasion of Iraq.
Drano


There are a LOT of people who see the "Global War on Terror" as the Global War on Islam - on both sides.

Just as there were a lot of people who viewed WWII as "God and the Allies against Satan and the Axis."


GravatarThe Syrian Deputy Prime Minister for Economic Affairs Abdullah Al-Durdi says the presence of the huge numbers of Iraqis costs his country $1.6 billion a year.

Nice. $1.6 billion Syria has to front because of our war and we're giving them $15 million to cover it.

Ten cents on the dollar: nice work, boys.

Oh, and good morning again.


GravatarWho woulda thunk "Stacy's Mom" was being played out in Tulsa?
Jim, tribal Catholic


Ewww. Lindsay Roberts couldn't hold a Hostess Twinkie to Rachel Hunter.


GravatarFaux went into the crypt this morning and dragged out Jack Welch to tell us why goopers will win in 2008 --

I'm sure he still thinks msgop and its
older dumber sister has any credibility

he is such a cliche
I'm sure he would be comfortable on Glenn Beck's show as well as the Tucker Carlson show


GravatarIt's awfully hot and sticky here today.
HoneyBearKelly


no flirting!


GravatarTen cents on the dollar: nice work, boys.

It's not even 10 cents on the dollar -- more like a tenth of a cent on the dollar.


GravatarIt's 1970 on the 10@10 marathon.

Just played: "Victoria" by the Kinks!


GravatarFaux went into the crypt this morning and dragged out Jack Welch to tell us why goopers will win in 2008 --


Jack, don't you have a wife to cheat on? Get busy and stop bothering the population.


GravatarFaux went into the crypt this morning and dragged out Jack Welch to tell us why goopers will win in 2008 --

God almighty he was on Tweety last spring, and you'd swear he was doing a Grampa Simpson imitation:

"President Bush has done everything right, and it's all gone so horribly wrong! I can't understand it!"


GravatarIt's not even 10 cents on the dollar -- more like a tenth of a cent on the dollar.
Toonscribe


Crap! You're absolutely right. I plead my head cold.


Gravatarsounds good smokes... will do.

i've got a perfectly good, perfectly chilled, perfectly mixed pitcher of bloody m's just sitting here.

what to do...


GravatarThe whole of one of the army's most elite regiments, supported by the RAF's latest fighter bombers, is to be sent to Afghanistan in a military operation unprecedented since the second world war.

For the first time since 1945, all three regular battalions of the Parachute Regiment - about 2,000 troops - will be deployed for combat. The Eurofighter/Typhoon, equipped with new missiles for a ground attack role, will be deployed for the first time in a hostile mission.

New Merlin helicopters from an RAF squadron formed this week will also be sent to the region.

The plan, being drawn up by the chiefs of staff, reflects the government's concern over the failure to win a decisive victory against the Taliban. Tomorrow marks the sixth anniversary of the first American and British missile strikes on Afghanistan in retaliation for the 9/11 attacks on the US, yet Nato-led forces are no closer to beating the Taliban, Nato commanders believe.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ afghan...2184905,00.html


GravatarWhen will the rat wang myth that talk radio and teevee is driven by ratings?
Horseshit, it is driven by corporate fascist idealology. This shit is spewed 24/7 as to why liberals cannot do well in talk radio. Say something enough and it becomes maistream belief. Why do we put up with it?


Gravatar"President Bush has done everything right, and it's all gone so horribly wrong! I can't understand it!"
Jim, tribal Catholic

those darn muslims


GravatarAtrios: Please go read Bobo Brooks' "The Republican Collapse" so I don't have to. I'm terrified of being drawn in by the title and then becoming so disgusted that my liver explodes.

Thank you.


GravatarNice. $1.6 billion Syria has to front because of our war and we're giving them $15 million to cover it.

Standard US policy. We fucked over Nicaragua and then arrested fleeing refugees who dared to come to the US. We have embargoed Cuba and then arrested fleeing refugees.


GravatarGood morning.

As part of the first anniversary of being married, Zapette's going to treat me at Heimie's Haberdashery later today.

Fun, yes?


GravatarPrime Minister Gordon Brown will not call a general election this autumn, his spokesman has confirmed.

Opposition leaders had challenged Mr Brown to end uncertainty over whether he would call an election after mounting speculation in recent weeks.

Recent opinion polls have suggested that Labour's lead over the Conservatives has fallen.

Speculation had been mounting that the PM would call a November election after changes to Parliamentary announcements.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_po...ics/ 7031749.stm


GravatarHBK, there's a spare bedroom w/bath anytime you want to visit.


GravatarFun, yes?

What kind of chapeau are you going to get?


Gravatarlet's all go on a crusade
it's going to be fun
like the Halloween Parade
we'll chant USA #1

All them towel heads
way out in that sand
eatin pitas instead of bread
and never touchin' spam

We'll make 'em turn christian
stick their heads in the font
don't need a cistern
waterboarding's what we want

Then Hallaleujah
they'll find Jesus Christ
and we'll get their oil
at half the price


GravatarHibye.

We're going to the Gorges at Cornell.

The kids yestiddy. Byebye. Hi. Bye. Laterbye.


GravatarRosie doing her Sinead impression.

What a cutie.


GravatarAnd white folks continue to pretend to be surprised at racist behavior.


GravatarWhat kind of chapeau are you going to get?

I'll probably go with the standard Zap hat: the driving cap!


GravatarFun, yes?

What kind of chapeau are you going to get?
pie


It doesn't look like they sell chapeaux. It looks like they sell haberdashes.


GravatarJust played: "Victoria" by the Kinks!
dave™© | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 12:24 pm | #


Saw "The Darjeeling Limited" yesteday.

Nice use of several songs from the Kinks "Lola VS Powerman" album that I hadn't listened to in years.

Although, for the life of me I couldn't figure why the Stones "Play With Fire" was on the soundtrack in another scene....


GravatarWhat kind of chapeau are you going to get?
pie


i recommend tinfoil


GravatarI'll probably go with the standard Zap hat: the driving cap!

Kewl.

And Happy Anniversary!


Gravatar"Blade Runner" is playing in 70MM at the Ziggy.

I have never seen it. Think I'm gonna go ...


GravatarA senior leader of Basque separatist group Batasuna has called the arrest of 23 key members a "declaration of war" by the Spanish government.

Pernando Barrena is the only top leader still at liberty following a police raid on a party meeting on Thursday.

Batasuna was banned in 2003 for failing to condemn violence and cut links to Eta, which has killed more than 800 people in a four-decade campaign.

Eta called off a 15-month ceasefire earlier this year.

The separatists want an independent Basque state in northern Spain and south-western France.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europ...ope/ 7031815.stm


Gravatar'Sup, bats.

Simels! Did you see the Vanity Fair article on Sly Stone?


Gravatari recommend tinfoil

Well stocked in the Rowsdower household.

A nice quote from the website:

“A gentleman would no sooner walk outside without his shoes on as he would without his hat.”

-Anonymous


GravatarQL,

STill here? Did you read this Drum thing re Hitlery?

simels ... You might check it out, too.


GravatarMaybe it's been said before, but you know what is so ironic about Ann Coulter's statement, which follows, on women not being able to vote?

If we took away women's right to vote, we'd never have to worry about another Democrat president. It's kind of a pipe dream, it's a personal fantasy of mine, but I don't think it's going to happen. And it is a good way of making the point that women are voting so stupidly, at least single women.

It's that she violated Florida law in 2006 by voting at the wrong precinct.

Now, who's stupid?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 11:50 am | #

Ann Coulter can say that because she knows that denying women the vote won't affect her in the least.


Gravatar"Blade Runner" is playing in 70MM at the Ziggy.

Which version?

Director's Cut, Modified Director's Cut, non-Director's Cut...?

I'm so old, I saw it when it first came out... in 70mm!


GravatarI have never seen it. Think I'm gonna go ...
res ipsa loquitur


Ooh, if it's the director's cut, you're in for a treat.


GravatarCNN--- where nothing is more important than the Firestorm of Controversy..... Over a car dealership running a spanish language TV ad..... in Florida.
Holy Un- American, Batman!


GravatarThere was renewed speculation in France yesterday over the relationship between President Nicolas Sarkozy and his wife, Cécilia. But the Elysée palace refused to comment on rumours that the president and his wife might announce their separation.

The president's spokesman, David Martinon, told a press briefing: "I don't comment on newsroom rumours, and certainly not that one." Asked whether Ms Sarkozy would go with her husband to Moscow next week, he said: "I don't know."

In a country where politicians' private lives were once off limits, media speculation about Ms Sarkozy's role abounded this week after she declined to accompany her husband to Bulgaria. She was to accept the country's highest medal of honour after she negotiated with Muammar Gadafy to secure the release of Bulgarian nurses imprisoned in Libya.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ intern...2184837,00.html


Gravatari suddenly realized two things which may or may not be connected.

1, i have a pounding headache.

2, i have forgotten to take my bp pills for the last three days.


GravatarRon Paul = Unibomberesque


GravatarIt's something called "Blade Runner: The Final Cut" [emphasis mine]

Oh, I was in downtown Brooklyn last night and freaking GEORGE CLOONEY was there shooting a movie.


Gravatar
Simels! Did you see the Vanity Fair article on Sly Stone?
geor3ge | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 12:36 pm | #

Yeah, I did, but thanks.


GravatarA record number of floods, droughts and storms around the world this year amount to a climate change "mega disaster", the United Nation's emergency relief coordinator, Sir John Holmes, has warned.

Sir John, a British diplomat who is also known as the UN's under-secretary-general for humanitarian affairs, said dire predictions about the impact of global warming on humanity were already coming true.

"We are seeing the effects of climate change. Any year can be a freak but the pattern looks pretty clear to be honest. That's why we're trying ... to say, of course you've got to deal with mitigation of emissions, but this is here and now, this is with us already," he said.

As a measure of the worsening situation, Ocha, the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs - part of the UN secretariat that employs Sir John - has issued 13 emergency "flash" appeals so far this year. The number is three more than in 2005, which held the previous record.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/enviro...5/ climatechange


Gravatarcnn radio news national headlines: 2 teens shot outside philly nightclub and britney misses first child visitation

Not mentioned: anything important


Gravatar
Oh, I was in downtown Brooklyn last night and freaking GEORGE CLOONEY was there shooting a movie.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 12:39 pm | #


You do know that you were within blocks of Miss Havisham?

She's been obsessing about it for days....


GravatarBTW, the Kossacks sure got pissy this morning over my sneering at their paying $50k so the Cheers-n-Jeers moron can go "SWOOSH! GONG!!!" every morning.

And my suggestion that, if they wanted to hire a "humorist," they consider A. Whitney Brown, who already posts there - instant "troll rating"!

They're still grumbling...


GravatarYeah, I did, but thanks.
steve simels


How do you feel about a new record? I'm cautiously excited.


GravatarRon Paul = Unibomberesque
attaturk


And he's the sane one.


GravatarOkay, I'm going to install Windows Vista now.

So I guess this could be "good bye forever"


GravatarYou do know that you were within blocks of Miss Havisham?

She's been obsessing about it for days....


Nothing sadder than a burned-out old dyke trying to convince everyone she's really hetero...


GravatarHazel Blears, the communities secretary, will today announce a £50m investment to help local authorities boost integration and the creation of specialist teams to tackle tensions in communities sparked by changing patterns of migration.

The money - up from £2m this year - is to be channelled over three years to groups which promote integration, rather than towards bodies which represent a single ethnic or religious identity. The change in approach is to be accompanied by guidance to local authorities that they should only spend money on translating documents into foreign languages where necessary, and put a much greater emphasis on teaching English.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ immigr...2184966,00.html


GravatarA record number of floods, droughts and storms around the world this year amount to a climate change "mega disaster"

It is October Fucking Sixth.

It will be eighty-fucking-six degrees in NEW YORK today.

The beaches on Long Island are open on Columbus Day weekend for the first time in THIRTY YEARS.

I hate this weather.


Gravatar1, i have a pounding headache.

2, i have forgotten to take my bp pills for the last three days.
dirk gently, sociopathetic


Um...I vote for a connection.

Please take your BP med so we can test the hypothesis.


GravatarOkay, I'm going to install Windows Vista now.

NOOOOO!!! don't do it - it's a TRAPPPPP!!!!!


GravatarOkay, I'm going to install Windows Vista now.

Ummmmmmmmm... why???


GravatarDirk, don't forget your BP meds; it's not worth a migrane or a stroke.


Gravatar"Blade Runner" is playing in 70MM at the Ziggy. I have never seen it. Think I'm gonna go ... res ipsa loquitur

Oh my God, you've never seen every movie ever made?!?


GravatarI know. I looked for Miss Havisham. I swore I'd see her trolling the bars on Smith Street.


GravatarOn c-span2/BookTV tonight and tomorrow:

AfterWords
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Insightful author interviews

Saturday 9 PM, Sunday 6 PM and 9 PM ET

In The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism, Naomi Klein argues that in the wake of natural and manmade devastation economic reform is introduced to benefit investors and free market advocates while taking advantage of moments of collective disorientation. Ms. Klein focuses her criticism on Milton Friedman and the Chicago School of Economics, and presents examples for her argument by profiling the current situations in Iraq and New Orleans. Naomi Klein is interviewed by Franklin Foer, editor of The New Republic and author of How Soccer Explains the World: An Unlikely Theory for Globalization.

http:// www.democraticunderground...mesg_id=1986108
-


GravatarBTW, the Kossacks sure got pissy this morning over my sneering at their paying $50k so the Cheers-n-Jeers moron can go "SWOOSH! GONG!!!" every morning.

50k???

Pay me that much to repost Letterman's "top 10 list" every day. Sheesh.


GravatarI hate this weather.
res ipsa loquitur


That fog of insects during the NYY/CLE game last night was horrifying. It's frigging October.


GravatarGreat Moments in Irony we would like to see

Punkinhead interviewing Tweety for his new "book."

Punkinhead: Where are the politicians with personality?

Tweety: We stamped it out of them with our dishonest and biased coverage.


GravatarIt's not hot, but it is 3 zillion percent humidity just now.


GravatarI was in downtown Brooklyn last night and freaking GEORGE CLOONEY was there shooting a movie.
res ipsa loquitur


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0887883/

Coen Brothers - excellent. Looks like an interesting cast.


Gravatarres - thanks

I'm still having a problem with her voting for the hate Iran resolution.


GravatarOkay, I'm going to install Windows Vista now.

Do you just feel the need to something incredibly stupid today?


GravatarOkay, I'm going to install Windows Vista now.

attaturk


Noooooooooo!


GravatarOkay, I'm going to install Windows Vista now.

Eh, it ain't that bad.

I've been using it for a few months now.


GravatarPlease take your BP med so we can test the hypothesis.
Diane C. Barking-Mad


just did

i thought of taking all three to try and catch up, but decided against it.

almost out, which means i have to see the doc again. unless i can find some online without an rx ...


GravatarThe government launched a campaign yesterday to recruit more maths and physics teachers, in an attempt to reverse the long-term decline in the subjects in schools. New teachers will be taken from a wider pool of graduates and offered re-training and financial incentives.

The announcement is part of a review of government policy in science and innovation commissioned by Gordon Brown at the beginning of the year, when he was still chancellor of the exchequer.

The review, led by former science minister Lord Sainsbury, points to a 20-year decline in the numbers of pupils taking A-level physics. "The main cause of that is the lack of qualified physics teachers," Lord Sainsbury said yesterday.


http://education.guardian.co.uk/ ...2185061,00.html


GravatarOkay, I'm going to install Windows Vista now.

So I guess this could be "good bye forever"
attaturk


In all seriousness - don't.


GravatarI can't keep up with one thread at a time, and those people have hundreds. And the threads are un-navigable. How does anyone do it? And why?


GravatarTweety: Carter couldn't attack Raygun
because he didn't have a record

so Tweety what about his years as governor? you are so stupid. no wonder Carter lost


Gravatar
simels ... You might check it out, too.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 12:36 pm | #


He's got a point, but I still say she'll be a disaster win or lose.

And it's Saturday so I'm allowed to say it.


GravatarI've been using it for a few months now.
Zap Rowsdower


curious - are there any advantages?


GravatarOkay, I'm going to install Windows Vista now.

Do you just feel the need to something incredibly stupid today?
Left Behind


Well my snark-site can't get $50,000 for reposting other people's comedy like the "Cheers & Jeers from Maine guy" so I have to catch up.


GravatarNothing sadder than a burned-out old dyke trying to convince everyone she's really hetero...
dave™©


a propos of nothing.... Lynne Cheney will be on TDSWJS this week.

I think there's a five per cent chance of evisceration, and a 95% chance of awkward, stiff, "why am I here?" on both sides.


GravatarI'm still having a problem with her voting for the hate Iran resolution.
ql-was in NY


Yes, but Drum totally proves your point about all this wailing "Oh no we can't nominate her because she'll be the more polarizing than Hitler crossed with Marie Antoinnette" is (more) total fucking wingnut bullshit.


GravatarCNN--Massive beef recall forces Topps Meats out of business----

Should have read--CNN-- Sloppy meat handling and fear of justified lawsuits cause owners of Topps Meats to hide
behind corporate firewall and flip off general public and potential victims.


GravatarI can't keep up with one thread at a time, and those people have hundreds. And the threads are un-navigable. How does anyone do it? And why?
Halfdan | 10.06.07 - 12:44 pm | #


come over to my place. it's very peaceful. only about 3 comments a week.


Gravatardo the 'Islamofascist' Awareness week tossers know about this - There are no nasty judges, booing crowds, tearful auditions or backstabbing. But the competition is just as tough. Eight mosques are vying to become Britain's Model Mosque 2007 in a televised competition which marries halal principles with the knock-out rules of reality TV.

The series, shown tonight on the Islam Channel, is not a beauty pageant, as aesthetics are not important. Instead, mosques are assessed on their interfaith work, women's facilities, youth services and their transparency on finances, policies and management.

Judges used these criteria to whittle the candidates down from 500 mosques to eight. The finalists hail from Bradford, Birmingham, Cricklewood, Croydon, Glasgow, Haringey, Leyton and Manchester.
(snip)
Each week a presenter grills two mosque representatives in the studio and viewers text in to keep in their favourite. The mosque with the most votes moves to the next stage. There will be a live final next month in front of the 25,000-strong Muslim crowd attending the Global Peace and Unity event at London's Excel Centre, and it will be broadcast to a potential audience of billions.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ religi...2185063,00.html


Gravatarcurious - are there any advantages?
dirk gently,


Yes - it's slower, and more bloated, and has lots of useless shit in it. And things got renamed just because they could.


GravatarWhat do you take, dirk ? I take 3 BP meds, Toprol=XL. Mavik generic, and Spironolactone.


Gravatarit ain't that bad.

I've been using it for a few months now.


It came on my wife's new laptop.

It was pretty pissy at first, but after I got ahold of it (and turned off that fucking User Account shit), it's been OK.

But why you would WANT to install it on a computer that's been running fine...

The "legacy" issue alone is nightmar-ish!


GravatarSimels:
A buddy o' mine weighs in on Bruce in Hartford:

http://www.artsjournal.com/riley/


GravatarAlso don't miss this "Chris Matthews Gettin' Chatty" thread at FDL.

Fucking Tweety ...


GravatarOh my God, you've never seen every movie ever made?!?

Expound, please.


Gravatar
But why you would WANT to install it on a computer that's been running fine...

The "legacy" issue alone is nightmar-ish!
dave™©


Because I'm a man baby!


GravatarWell my snark-site can't get $50,000 for reposting other people's comedy like the "Cheers & Jeers from Maine guy" so I have to catch up.

Good answer. But I'd really recommend you not install Vista anyway. It's not exactly a total disaster, but it make brand-new dual processor machines run like 2003 models. I just took it off my wife's brand new laptop.


GravatarAnd it's Saturday so I'm allowed to say it.

Yes, you are.

But remember to put it away at the end of the day...



GravatarI think there's a five per cent chance of evisceration, and a 95% chance of awkward, stiff, "why am I here?" on both sides.
Jim, tribal Catholic


So, what does your husband keep in that man-sized safe. I mean, besides the mangled remains of human decency?


Gravatardemocratic runup polled: clinton 46 Obama 25 Edwards 9
concurrence gangs up on Sensenbrenner.


GravatarSomeone had a survey last night showing that Hillary is LESS POLARIZING than any of the GOP front-runners.


GravatarBecause I'm a man baby!
attaturk


Vista will reduce you to a snivelling, whiny-ass titty-baby.

You have been warned.


Gravatarcurious - are there any advantages?

Honestly, it came with the new laptop. I don't know enough about computers to make that judgement.


GravatarYes - it's slower, and more bloated, and has lots of useless shit in it. And things got renamed just because they could.
jac | 10.06.07 - 12:45 pm | #


and it looks like it was designed by fischer-price. but really, i was seriously wondering if anyone using it found any enhancements at all.

my own rule is "never upgrade unless absolutely necessary."

i avoid a lot of problems that way.


Gravatarwish the government would stop doing this - Alan Johnson, the health secretary, alarmed health unions yesterday by opening up a new market for the management of NHS services worth up to £70bn.

He approved a list of 14 private companies that would be available to help primary care trusts in England evaluate the health needs of local people and buy appropriate services. If the trials succeed, the companies may influence the commissioning of services ranging from family planning to chiropody.

The firms include four big US healthcare corporations: Aetna, Humana, Health Dialog Services and UnitedHealth, the Minneapolis-based company whose European division is headed by Tony Blair's former senior health adviser.

The Department of Health said the companies would offer trusts "a bank of specialist expertise". They would be able to analyse data identifying local health problems and negotiate cost-effective contracts with NHS and private sector providers. The trusts control most of the NHS's £90bn annual budget.


http://society.guardian.co.uk/ he...2185057,00.html


Gravataryep, that was it. Locals were talking about Malcovich and Brad Pitt being around tha hood, too.


GravatarI just took it off my wife's brand new laptop.

I hear some of the manufacturers are now offering a "downgrade" option to XP.


GravatarYes, but Drum totally proves your point about all this wailing "Oh no we can't nominate her because she'll be the more polarizing than Hitler crossed with Marie Antoinnette" is (more) total fucking wingnut bullshit.

Watching the McLaughlin love-in last night, and I swear to Jebus that Pat's response to every question on any topic was "Hillary will unite the GOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


GravatarEach week a presenter grills two mosque representatives in the studio and viewers text in to keep in their favourite. The mosque with the most votes moves to the next stage. There will be a live final next month in front of the 25,000-strong Muslim crowd attending the Global Peace and Unity event at London's Excel Centre, and it will be broadcast to a potential audience of billions.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/ religi...2185063,00.html
Moonbootica, Tea Drinker |

Anybody seen "Hot Fuzz"?


GravatarBecause I'm a man baby!
attaturk


then you will enjoy the preschool interface.


Gravatar"The media is ridiculous
they haven't been right about
pretty much anything and now we
are into the "why did things go wrong"

American media --the least self aware


GravatarAnybody seen "Hot Fuzz"?
Flint, unemployed


Yes, loved it.

Watertiger is like it's No. 1 fan.


GravatarAnybody seen "Hot Fuzz"?
Flint, unemployed


It's s'posed to be in my mailbox today.


GravatarLynne Cheney will be on TDSWJS this week.

Does Stewart have the balls to drag that old lesbian potboiler of hers out of mothballs?


Gravatari was seriously wondering if anyone using it found any enhancements at all.
dirk gently


Seriously, I found several incompatibilities between Vista and Office 2003/Visual Basic. And a simple VB application in Access wouldn't print to an HP LaserJet.

Microsoft hates my guts because I made 'em fix them.


GravatarI've heard not one good thing about Vista, except that it will encourage you to spend less time on your computer.


Gravatarseriously, attaturk, if there is not spme specific thing that vista has thst you really need, i recommend against it.

and i am a trained professional.

self trained, but still ...


GravatarAnybody seen "Hot Fuzz"?
Flint, unemployed


GravatarI hear some of the manufacturers are now offering a "downgrade" option to XP.

Just last week Microsoft extended the "legality" of offering XP on new machines through June of next year. Even Dell offers XP as an option on a bunch of machines.


GravatarAnybody seen "Hot Fuzz"?

Yepper. While I didn't find it as earth-shatteringly funny as watertiger did, the confluence of British and American comedic sensibilities is stunning!


GravatarI see someone has poured molasses down Haloscan's intertubes again.


GravatarI would like to see Hitlery crush Rudy in the election.

I would also pay good cash money to see her crush his balls in a vice.


GravatarAnybody seen "Hot Fuzz"?
Flint, unemployed


Jog On!


GravatarLynne Cheney will be on TDSWJS this week.

Does Stewart have the balls to drag that old lesbian potboiler of hers out of mothballs?
dave™©


Hopefully someone will accidentally leave a copy in her dressing room, so she comes out rattled.


GravatarYes, but Drum totally proves your point...

Seriously: did you ever think you'd find yopurself saying those words?


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http://www.artsjournal.com/riley/
bill buckner | 10.06.07 - 12:45 pm | #


Wish I'd been there. Sounds wonderful...

I love that he's doing "Thundercrack."


Gravatarthe most recent DVD I have brought is The Lives of Others


GravatarLynne Cheney will be on TDSWJS this week.

Holy crap! That is appointment viewing.


GravatarLook here people.

Yes, I realize Vista may suck. But I've got memory in this machine that XP can't utilize; and I'm a man.

And there's nothing that works fine that a man can't fuck up by trying to make it better.

It's what makes us men.

Well that and the whole spelling in the snow and opening jars thing.

So there!


GravatarSeriously: did you ever think you'd find yopurself saying those words?

I don't read Drum all that much, but I know people have issues with him. But he is right on here.


Gravatarthat's vise, dear.


GravatarYes, but Drum totally proves your point about all this wailing "Oh no we can't nominate her because she'll be the more polarizing than Hitler crossed with Marie Antoinnette" is (more) total fucking wingnut bullshit.

Arbeit macht cake!


GravatarThe Church of England is pleading with Bafta to withdraw a best-selling video game from an awards shortlist because it uses a cathedral as a backdrop for a gunfight.

Resistance: Fall of Man, which features a shoot-out in Manchester Cathedral, is one of seven contenders for the academy's video games award. The category is the only one where the fans will decide the winner.

Yesterday the Dean of Manchester Cathedral, the Very Rev Rogers Govender, called the nomination a disgrace.

"There was disgust at the virtual desecration of Manchester Cathedral," he said. "We asked Sony to sign up to some digital guidelines, asking them to respect our sacred places of prayer ... Sony's response was very limited and other churches, cathedrals and historic buildings may be at risk of exploitation.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/ religi...2185034,00.html


GravatarThe only place I've worked at that has Windows Vista installed is the local animal shelter. And I assume those computers were either donated or gotten at a big discount and they had no choice.


GravatarAll those signs, I knew what they meant... some things you can invent.

Some get made, and some get sent, ooh?

Birds go flying at the speed of sound,
to show you how it all began.

Birds came flying from the underground... if you could see it then you'd understand.

Ah, when you see it then you'll understand???

gotta run

peace


GravatarSo JeffCo,

I should go see "Blade Runner" or I should not go see "Blade Runner?"


GravatarWhy Lynn Cheney on TDS? What's she hawking?
.


Gravatarthat's vise, dear.

Thank you. Of course you are correct.

simels: regret.


GravatarI don't read Drum all that much, but I know people have issues with him.

Yeah, I gave up some time ago.

"The King of the Hand-Wringing Moderate Capitulators" was my pithy nickname for him.

Every couple of months, he posts something worthwhile. The rest of the time... feh!


GravatarI've heard not one good thing about Vista, except that it will encourage you to spend less time on your computer.
JeffCO | 10.06.07 - 12:49 pm | #


It came already installed on my new computer.

I haven't had a problem with it. Kind of like it, actually...


Gravatarthe most recent DVD I have brought is The Lives of Others
Moonbootica, Tea Drinker


What did you think of it?
The actor who played the Stasi agent died recently.


GravatarYes, I realize Vista may suck. But I've got memory in this machine that XP can't utilize; and I'm a man.

And there's nothing that works fine that a man can't fuck up by trying to make it better.

It's what makes us men.
attaturk




Well, since you insist on committing hari-kiri, I have three words for you:

Fresh. Hard. Drive.


For when you realize the error of your ways, and wish you could go back.

I'll even spot you a Fiddy.


GravatarTweety: Shrub's biggest mistake was "Mission Accomplished."

arghhhhhhhh


GravatarIt's what makes us men.

Well, try not to fall on your ass. The Road to Hell is slippery with testosterone.


GravatarExpound, please. res ipsa loquitur

That was a little blurb on The Oniona few weeks ago. As for Blade Runner, I will be picking up the 5-disc final ultimate no really this time set this Decenmber. but from what I understand, it is the "real" director's cut that is out there now in a few theaters, so by all means get in there.


Gravatar...there's nothing that works fine that a man can't fuck up by trying to make it better.



GravatarMicrosoft hates my guts because I made 'em fix them.
jac | 10.06.07 - 12:49 pm | #


no, they expect it. they have a cost/benefit formula to decide when known bugs need to be fixed, based on severity and number of complaints.

i did some work for them once (as a vendor) and met with their head of QA. this was before the big "quality" pitch, but i don't think much has changed. one of my sw engineers pointed out a bug and they kept arguing "no, you did this ... well, it only works with certified software [he was using ms offic] ... er, um, OK DAMNIT! IT'S A BUG! we took it upstairs and they said that no one would notice because no one uses that feature."

if it doesn't prevent future sales, it isn't a bug.


GravatarIt's what makes us men.

Jesus, I know this is a stereotype, but it's so fucking true.


GravatarIf you've NEVER seen it, by all means go - Sean Young never looked better, Harrison Ford was in his prime, and Darryl Hannah does freaky gymnastics with bad hair.


GravatarI haven't had a problem with it. Kind of like it, actually...

Well, for select subversives, it comes pre-NSA optimized.


GravatarWhat did you think of it?
The actor who played the Stasi agent died recently.
Marcellina | 10.06.07 - 12:53 pm | #


I have yet to watch it


Gravatarmy own rule is "never upgrade unless absolutely necessary."

i avoid a lot of problems that way.


I had a colleague come up to me last year and ask if I had an Apple IIe. He had some software for a class that would ony run on it.


GravatarJesus, I know this is a stereotype, but it's so fucking true.
res ipsa loquitur


We just view risk and experimentation differently than y'all, thassall.


GravatarAnybody seen "Hot Fuzz"?
Flint, unemployed


with very low expectations, and it is EXCELLENT.

dirk's seal of approval. arf arf.


GravatarDoes Stewart have the balls to drag that old lesbian potboiler of hers out of mothballs?
dave


When Wolfie did she flat out denied there was any lesbian sex in the book. But, but, Wolfie said, I have it bookmarked, right here on page whatever. Nope, she said it's not there. He opened the book to the appropriate page and showed it to her. Nope, she said, not there, next question.

It was fucking surreal.


Gravataro by all means get in there.

It's also playing in the only big, bad-ass old school movie palace-type place left in NYC. HUGE orchestra section (two aisles, side sections, huge middle section), and then mezzanine (same configuration). Sloping floor. 70MM. Good sound. Although the seats are nothing to write home about.


Gravatar...Sean Young never looked better, Harrison Ford was in his prime, and Darryl Hannah does freaky gymnastics with bad hair.

And look for the special appearance by a certain iconoclast from Vermont with two brothers who have the same first name...


GravatarWhy Lynn Cheney on TDS? What's she hawking?


I'm betting her fifteenth version of her book about how we have to teach the history of America as an infallible march of goodiness and libertitude, with happy slaves singing spirituals and Indians helping settlers and working classes exchanging ethnic recipes over the picturesque clotheslines of tenement buildings


GravatarI had a colleague come up to me last year and ask if I had an Apple IIe. He had some software for a class that would ony run on it.
spinoza


Does anything even run a 5 1/4" floppy anymore?


GravatarI've watched Blade Runner: Directors Cut, an interesting movie but I couldn't really warm to it

left me quite cold actually


GravatarWhen Wolfie did she flat out denied there was any lesbian sex in the book. But, but, Wolfie said, I have it bookmarked, right here on page whatever. Nope, she said it's not there. He opened the book to the appropriate page and showed it to her. Nope, she said, not there...

Well, admittedly, there aren't any strap-ons featured, ergo...


GravatarI had a colleague come up to me last year and ask if I had an Apple IIe. He had some software for a class that would ony run on it.
spinoza | 10.06.07 - 12:55 pm | #


i've got one. it still works - dual drives, 80 column ...


but i think there are linux emulators for the iie if he really wants to run "chopper" or "ultima I"


GravatarThe actor who played the Stasi agent died recently.

That's too bad.

That was the best movie I've seen in years. Hand's down. Absolutely loved it.


GravatarSheets, I think is the term.


Gravatar
Does anything even run a 5 1/4" floppy anymore?
geor3ge


Pickles & Condi from what I hear.


GravatarRemember the aphorism, "if it bleeds, it leads?"

CNN's operating under the aphorism, "if it hates, it rates."

Except in Beck's case, it doesn't. Unless the "ratings" that matter are in the CNN Boardroom.


GravatarCorrupt thread above.


GravatarI had a colleague come up to me last year and ask if I had an Apple IIe.

I've got one in the basement.

It might be a ][+, now that I think of it...


Gravatarowls!!!!!!!!!!!!


GravatarHarrison Ford was in his prime,

I caught a few minutes of "Working Girl" on AMC (I think) last night. Harrison Ford was pretty good at comedy. What a great movie that was.


GravatarHUGE orchestra section (two aisles, side sections, huge middle section), and then mezzanine (same configuration). Sloping floor. 70MM.

Denver has one of those - when they did the Star Wars re-release I went to see it there.

I totally lurv BR. I even still listen to the Vangelis soundtrack.


Gravatari also have watched The Wind That Shakes the Barley, took me awhile to work out what they were saying!

but also interesting, about the Irish War of Independence and the subsequent civil war

complicated Irish politics!


GravatarBy all means , see "Blade Runner".

And I was referencing "Hot Fuzz" for a best mosque, best village comparison.


GravatarHarrison Ford was pretty good at comedy. What a great movie that was.
res ipsa loquitur


He is a pretty funny guy. Makes a great interview.


GravatarIt came already installed on my new computer.

that's a perfectly valid reason.

I haven't had a problem with it. Kind of like it, actually...

compared to?


GravatarBTW, res, it's only playing at ONE other theater in the country - in LA.

For all things obsessively Blade Runner, go here.


GravatarWhat a great movie that was.

That is one of my lovely wife's favorite movies.


Gravatar...res, it's only playing at ONE other theater in the country - in LA.

Is it that Cinerama place?


Gravatar"Blade Runner" is playing in 70MM at the Ziggy. I have never seen it. Think I'm gonna go ... res ipsa loquitur

I would be up for that. How long is it playing there?


GravatarI caught a few minutes of "Working Girl" on AMC (I think) last night. Harrison Ford was pretty good at comedy. What a great movie that was.
res ipsa loquitur | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 12:58 pm | #


That's one of those movies I get hooked into every time it's on ... I can't help it ... Joan Cusack was hilarious ("Coffee? Tea? Me?"), Alec Baldwin was gorgeous (even in that hideous blue tux) ...


GravatarEven if one has a specific priority requirement for Vista, one should run the numbers on finding a cheap Vista box for that requirement vs the cost of days in hell spent losing functionality.
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Gravatar"Blade Runner" is playing in 70MM at the Ziggy. I have never seen it. Think I'm gonna go ... res ipsa loquitur

I would be up for that. How long is it playing there?
Culture of TrÜth | Homepage | 10.06.07 - 1:05 pm | #


Oooh! Oooh!



Gravatar"I'm just sayin what everbody's thinkin"-Jim Ward from Stephanie Miller show doing his Glenn Beck impression


GravatarTerrorist is the new nigger


GravatarLast year I blocked CNN, MSNBC and Fox News from my TV.

Life is much less neurotic. I get the actual news from plenty of other sources but I no longer get incited to insanity listening to these inane assholes who should all be under lock and key themselves.


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