I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Really: another contributor the Lieberman wing!
The undisclosed wedding location has to be an espresso factory.
Kerrey's another McCain.
All that the both of them suffered during the Viet Nam debacle hasn't taught them a damn thing.
They still love war.
I blame Connecticut.
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I thought Atrios was going to be posting lightly for the day dagnabbit! From below:
This feeling of helplessness/hopelessness is not being brought on by people like this: it is the fucking Democrats. What is their problem?
I take it that they are scared that the surge might work, that Bush and company might win the war, that we will gain hegemony over the Middle East, and that they will go down as defeatists and losers. I take it that they are more willing to protect their backsides than honor their constituents. These are no longer democrats as defined by Roosevelt Truman, or LBJ. These are corporate shills who are trying to read the tea leaves and chicken entrails by running from one lobbyist to another and fondling their genitals while asking what to do (hmm, I think my metaphor train went off the tracks there).
If they know they have a well-defined scandal, they will act, like with the Walter Reed roach motel incident. But even then they don't have spines. Look at Durbin, someone I thought might be an honorable person. But when he got called out for comparing extraordinary rendition and gitmo to the Soviet gulag, and then was denounced for it, did he push back? Did he say, let's look at the evidence? Did he offer to protect the innocent and the wrongly accused? No. Not at all. He went on the senate floor, and looking like a teenager who mistakenly gave a blow job to to Larry Craig, apologized for his behavior. I do not understand these people except as crass misguided individuals who would make Roosevelt, Truman and LBJ blow chunks.
Kerrey's another McCain.
All that the both of them suffered during the Viet Nam debacle hasn't taught them a damn thing.
Exactly. Trying to un-lose Vietnam by staying in Iraq.
"I take it that they are scared that the surge might work, that Bush and company might win the war, that we will gain hegemony over the Middle East,"
None of that is going to happen, so I don't know what their problem is.
Christ in a Cracker.
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BOB KERREY: I think you've got to identify the jihadist as the enemy. We've given them a sanctuary in Syria. We've given them a sanctuary in Iran. And personally, I think that is a mistake.
Our current-- I think you have to say our current instructions are flawed, in saying that you can't target-- we know where these camps are in Syria. We know where the-- the stream flow is that's flowing into Iraq. I don't think you can do that simultaneously with moving into Baghdad and knocking doors down and being the police force for the Iraqi government.
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Well to the right of Holy Joe Blow Job.
spinoza,
That is my conclusion as well. The Democrats are simply corporate shills who use people like us as a means to an end and really do not give a shit about what we care so passionately about.
Honestly, no other conclusion is even possible given the preponderance of evidence.
Most politicians think war is too important to be left to the voters.
Fuck 'em.
The politicians, that is.
Kerrey is as nutty as McCain.
A third detained member of the Muslim Brotherhood (MB) has been admitted to the intensive care unit at Manial University Hospital after developing a serious heart condition in Tora prison, but prison officials have denied him access to treatment, the group said in a statement.
and Mubarak and his regime are considered 'allies'
Kerrey's another McCain.
All that the both of them suffered during the Viet Nam debacle hasn't taught them a damn thing.
They still love war.
Terry C - Bush Enablers R Nutz
They lust for power, which is even more dangerous.
BOB KERREY: First of all, you say openly, the occup-- we're not the occupying force any longer.
(rolls eyes)
All my kids names are, "Hey, get Daddy a cold beer and make it snappy." -- Thers
There is hope for this world.
The Cylon asked Adama a question: "Why do you think you deserve to survive?" Harsh, but legitimate. The United States might well be required to answer a similar question, not about its survival, but about its overly self-important assumption that it deserves to win conflicts, even those it concedes it initiated wrongly.
"you're a very dashing young man"-Bob Kerrey to Max Boot
OT: It leads me on to think a little about democracy. Liberalism, and muscular liberalism in particular, do have this tendency to think of democracy as an end in itself, even a virtue in itself. This is wrong. Without wanting to get too deeply into the Debordian spectacle, it’s a confusion of means and ends. Democracy is a process, not an outcome and certainly not a standard. It may be the best available process for attaining desirable outcomes, but that’s about all you can say.
Benazir is a great example of this. She’s loved outside of Pakistan because she talks the talk about democracy, development and moderation. Also because she’s a Muslim woman who speaks fluent English and sounds modern. In this context, it seems almost churlish to point out that the Bhutto family are Pakistan’s equivalent of the Corleones; that Benazir’s elected government was guilty of corruption on a scale that would have put Roman emperors to shame; or that it was on her watch that the ISI created the Taliban.
http://splinteredsunrise.wordpre...-itself-or-not/
All my kids names are, "Hey, get Daddy a cold beer and make it snappy." -- Thers
"Dad, can I go outside and play?"
"Shut up and deal, Kid."
From below:
I find it interesting that many, many New Yorkers who experienced 9-11 first-hand are much less bloodthirsty than those who weren't personally affected.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins
I have a friend in North Jersey who lost a cousin on 9-11-01.
Even his mother says it's time to move on.
and Mubarak and his regime are considered 'allies'
They do what Cheney wishes he could do.
They're not 'allies', they're role models.
I think the best way to not be the occupying force is to stop occupying, but I'm just a DFH.
Bob Kerrey's view on the voters' statement about Iraq is strikingly similar to some louts' view on whether a woman wants to have sex:
BOB KERREY: Well the problem is in your statement, since we disagree, the problem is we don't have the conversation to find out where we agree and that's what's missing - the means by which the public can have a conversation and discover where the agreement is and then urge the Congress to do something in that area.
BILL MOYERS: Don't you think the voters did that last November?
BOB KERREY:No. Voters basically said "no" and that's not very clear instructions.
The Mysterious Islamic Jihad Union
I got over my injury emotionally before we attacked Afghanistan. Ankle still gives me trouble now and again.
I wish Bob Kerrey would just STFU and go back to managing Grandmothers restaurants in Nebraska.
BOB KERREY:No. Voters basically said "no" and that's not very clear instructions.
spinoza,
I really don't like this man.
Anybody know what the New School faculty and such think of Bob Kerrey?
BOB KERREY:No. Voters basically said "no" and that's not very clear instructions.
And (this is too easy sometimes) what part of that instruction did you find so confusing?
this person who yelled at you for forgetting 9-11, I'm presuming that he wasn't there?
Buckeye
Oh, of course not. Asshole was waiting for the light and engaged a fellow vigil member politely till the light changed, then as he was pulling away made his hostile statement. About the right age to enlist too.
ql-was in NY | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 1:51 pm
I find it interesting that many, many New Yorkers who experienced 9-11 first-hand are much less bloodthirsty than those who weren't personally affected.
You, for example.
Buckeye, Dealer of Rare Coins | 09.08.07 - 1:58 pm | #
A small Sunni Arab political bloc has ended its boycott of Iraq's parliament, even as the senior US commander in Iraq says the country's leaders have failed to capitalise on security gains.
The Iraqi National Dialogue Front, which has 11 seats in the 275-member legislature, had suspended its participation in June.
The party said in a statement on Saturday that it had returned after the government met its demands.
"The government has agreed to allocate funds to displaced families ... and it has agreed to delay negotations on the oil law until after Ramadan," it said.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/
...3E6E5CC72BD.htm
Voters basically said "no" and that's not very clear instructions.
Voters to Kerrey: "Exactly what part of 'no' don't you understand?"
I got over my injury emotionally before we attacked Afghanistan. Ankle still gives me trouble now and again.
Going to war with Afghanistan was one of the stupidest tactical and strategic blunders in US history... until we invaded Iraq.
Anybody know what the New School faculty and such think of Bob Kerrey?
spinoza
IIRC there was a lot of anger when he invited McCain to speak at commencement, not least because he didn't consult anyone
I really don't like this man. - Jim
Time to start talking to the NE state Dems and find the Progressives in the state.
allez, à tout à l'heure
On the one hand, getting Kerrey in the Senate would give the Dems one more vote for most things, including leadership and committees.
But the man is a complete moron when it comes to foreign policy, and he can't resist a microphone or TV camera, so he'd be really bad for this country when it comes to international issues.
What's better, an impotent GOP senator or a disruptive Democratic senator? Tough call.
I have a friend in North Jersey who lost a cousin on 9-11-01.
Even his mother says it's time to move on.
Terry C - Bush Enablers R Nutz | 09.08.07 - 2:01 pm |
My friend, her maternal side of the family is Bronx/Queens. She lost a cousin-in-law and nearly lost 2 other cousins who worked there and an uncle who was an EMT at the site. They're a bit tired of the obession over it. Especially by people who aren't from New York and have no intention of every going there.
BOB KERREY:No. Voters basically said "no" and that's not very clear instructions.
Don't you just wish that Moyers had the package to reply, "what part of "no" don't you understand?"
And while I do appreciate Kerrey's CMH and his wounds and envy his porking of Debra Winger, I still wish he would STFU.
Time to start talking to the NE state Dems and find the Progressives in the state.
Maybe we could persuade attaturk to move a few miles and run for the senate. With his "modest language" and watertiger's photoshopping skills, he would be a shoe-in (or is that a fez-in?).
But the man is a complete moron when it comes to foreign policy, and he can't resist a microphone or TV camera, so he'd be really bad for this country when it comes to international issues.
It'd leave Lieberman staring sadly at the silent telephone on Sunday mornings, but Kerrey would say the same thing, a little more butch-ly, and get an even more fawning receptions from Punkinhedd
... and it has agreed to delay negotations on the oil law until after Ramadan," it said.
Progress through waiting! Heck of a strategy!
Good afternoon, bats. Hanging comfortably upside down?
Time to start talking to the NE state Dems and find the Progressives in the state.
bo | 09.08.07 - 2:05 pm
i spend some time there now and then and i feel that the state is becoming more and more progressive. just a gut feel, but i've also been watching ben nelson even make some moves to the left...
he's hearing an earful down there, imho.
Yo.
Time to start talking to the NE state Dems and find the Progressives in the state.
bo | 09.08.07 - 2:05 pm | #
esp since hagel is retiring.
Good afternoon, bats. Hanging comfortably upside down?
Echidne | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 2:08 pm | #
it's the only way to make any fucking sense of the political landscape anymore...
Echidne,
I had a stern talking to myself this day and told myself it was time to stop wallowing in self-pity and start writing and promoting again. (Don't know if I will listen yet, though)
et tu?
and it has agreed to delay negotations on the oil law until after Ramadan," it said.
Partially movement forward on one benchmark. Another benchmark delayed. I call it even.
BOB KERREY:No. Voters basically said "no" and that's not very clear instructions.
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall | 09.08.07 - 2:02 pm | #
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WOW
Forget Kerrey,let's support the progressive Dem in the State.Kerrey like the other posters said is another Lieberman.The guy is a jerk big-time.
Watta scumbag
Rudy Giuliani:
“For me, every day is an anniversary of September 11.” 2:00 pm | Comment (0)
Time to set aside some bobux for an ABBK Nebraska Dem candidate.
ABBK - anybody but Kerrey.
I had a stern talking to myself this day and told myself it was time to stop wallowing in self-pity and start writing and promoting again. (Don't know if I will listen yet, though)
A little self-pity is always necessary, I think, but it should just be half a teaspoon in the stew of orgies and rage and so on.
You have the right to feel aggrieved over your health problems, I think, and it would not be human otherwise. But yes, it helps to move on.
and Mubarak and his regime are considered 'allies'
Moonbootica, Graduate | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 1:58 p
One of our cardoilogy fellows was originally from Egypt. He couldn't decide who he hated more, Bush or Mubarak. Mubarak for being no better than previous 'leaders', or Bush for destroying so much.
BOB KERREY:No. Voters basically said "no" and that's not very clear instructions.
spinoza, FirstAgainstTheWall | 09.08.07 - 2:02 pm | #
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Because you know, deep down, they really wanted it.
Buckeye, tough decision there.
But he couldn't go wrong choosing Bush.
And do you really think it's simply a coincidence that both McCain and Kerrey have the exact same helmet size as Kang and Kodos?
Rudy Giuliani:
“For me, every day is an anniversary of September 11.”
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Me thinks he doth project too much.
WOW - Douglas Watts
You said that exactly like my deceased MIL.
BOB KERREY:No. Voters basically said "no" and that's not very clear instructions.
Which part of no are you having trouble understanding, dickweed?
Rudy Giuliani:
“For me, every day is an anniversary of September 11.”
Not for my relative, though. He's still dead.
I find myself wondering what sort of soapbox theater would garner enough attention to allow an otherwise unknown to begin gathering support for a primary challenge. Assume there isn't an unlimited budget for printing thousands and thousands of handbills, or throwing a free beer bash, and all one had were one's ideas. Can one force one's way into the party? I would think having a blog would help.
No means Yes.
Bo, in response to your earlier question, charges have been filed, but no RO yet--apparently CA feels no one needs one on weekends.
Assume there isn't an unlimited budget for printing thousands and thousands of handbills, or throwing a free beer bash
Then I suggest dropping the handbills part.
For our bacon lovers (from the Philadelphia City Paper):
Mo's Bacon Bar
With the exception of Degrassi: The Next Generation on DVD, there are few products capable of making me fall to my knees and shed tears of unbridled joy. But that all changed the moment I tried the latest offering from high-end chocolatier Vosges.
The rich, 41 percent cacao milk chocolate that serves as the base of the bar is decadent on its own, but the real kicker becomes apparent only after you take a bite. Vosges owner Katrina Markoff's recipe includes teeny bits of applewood smoked bacon and a generous dash of alder salt — mixed right in.
Though the mere mention of a bacon-laced chocolate bar might result in twisted-face ewws from your less adventurous friends, break it down to them this way: Haven't you ever indulged in a tall stack of syrupy pancakes with a big pile of pig on the side? Sure, toying with these kinds of flavor combinations can often result in disaster, but rest assured that Markoff knows what she's doing. Each taste is surprisingly balanced, as the chocolate unfolds to reveal a graduated saltiness more harmonious than the Vienna Boys Choir. Trust. Ingredient Specialty Foods (4335 Main St., Manayunk, 215-483-488
carries the Bacon Bar in addition to other Vosges varieties, but you also can order up by calling 1-888-301-YUMM or visiting www.vosgeschocolate.com. —Drew Lazor
No means Yes.
Bob Kerrey
Pollster: Can you show us on this electorally-correct doll exactly where the Senator put his vote on you?
Voter: Bad touch. Bad!Touch! /runs away
If you seek to understand how Kerrey came to the Senate and to the College and to the Council on Foreign Relations, just look to Peter G. Peterson. It is fellow Nebraskan Peterson who is the principal invisible hand guiding and making a path for Kerrey.
Terry C is posting chocolate pron. NOt fair.
No means Yes.
Bob Kerrey
Well, that IS what we're doing to that country.
Sally, babe and Mlle safely with you now?
apparently CA feels no one needs one on weekends. - Sallyh
Feh. Hope you threw enough cold water on him to keep him away for the weekend.
It's kind of a wonder that Moyers didn't strangle him.
If there is a line of reasoning in this, I'm still looking for it.
Perspiration must've been hard to control with all of that steam rolling around.
Terry C is posting chocolate pron. NOt fair.
Echidne
Not true.
BACON pron!
Pollster: Can you show us on this electorally-correct doll exactly where the Senator put his vote on you?
Voter: Bad touch. Bad!Touch! /runs away
driftglass | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 2:16 pm | #
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16 oz. PBR --------------> computer screen and chin.
Thank you.
BACON pron!
Terry C - Bush Enablers R Nutz
prok
Oh how horrid, a 9/11 story about Jesus on my radio. God and terrorism, the perfect GOP fantasy.
Well, that IS what we're doing to that country.
Terry C - Bush Enablers R Nutz | 09.08.07 - 2:16 pm | #
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Well said, Terry. Bush going in, unannounced, at night for a "quick visit."
eeww .....
Oh how horrid, a 9/11 story about Jesus on my radio. God and terrorism, the perfect GOP fantasy.
puppethead
Be hard to top the "Face of Satan in the smoke of 9/11" that Drudge was pimping way back when
Terry has chocolate pron and all I have is a really cool "writers's" song by Don McLean (Writers's songs have lots of words in them put together in interesting ways with soft and interesting melodies.)
I have been looking for this one for months now. I finally found it and want to share. (And yes, I have an eight track tape and a stereo phonograph album with this song on it, RIAA)
You will like this one, trust me. It is Don McLean doing The Pride Parade.
http://home.comcast.net/~veritas...20001/
pride.mp3
"In the video, bin Laden makes no overt threats and does not directly call for attacks. Instead, he addresses Americans, telling them the Iraq war has failed and urging them to turn away from capitalism and democracy and convert to Islam."
I like how the MSM lumps capitalism and democracy.
Some vegan guy is being arch and angry on my radio.
"How many animals died for the Summer of Love!?"
17?
Look, Jebus -- the Prince of Peace -- miraclled up a mess of "Fishes and Loaves" and not the "Seitan-trout and Loaves".
Why don't vegans love Sweet Bebe Jebus?
Also he's making it very hard to hear John Wayne mapping out the best way to get his cattle to market in "Red River".
Poland is to hold a snap general election next month, less than two years after the nationalist prime minister, Jaroslaw Kaczynski, launched his "moral revolution" to purge the country of post-communist sleaze.
With the populist minority government hit by mudslinging and paralysis, the lower house voted last night to disband parliament, setting the scene for early elections. It is Mr Kaczynski's plan to hold elections less than halfway through his four-year term. He may have engineered his own downfall, since few observers believe he can build a stable governing coalition.
Article continues
But Mr Kaczynski clearly believes he can win a fresh term, entrench himself in power, and step up the nationalist campaign that has seen him accused of witchhunts at home and earned Poland a reputation as the EU's most unruly member.
Last night, Mr Kaczynski said: "These elections will create the chance for Poland to decide whether it wants to continue on its path of transition ... or whether it wants to follow the path of the rule of oligarchy."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
intern...2164795,00.html
I like how the MSM lumps capitalism and democracy.
Gilly Gonzylon | 09.08.07 - 2:23 pm | #
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You're welcome.
QL, Mlle is, baby is not.
But they did have to come to the police station with the baby for a welfare check last night. Of course the ex didn't show; his mother came with the baby. As she always does. He makes a mess, she cleans it up.
Instead, he addresses Americans, telling them the Iraq war has failed and urging them to turn away from capitalism and democracy and convert to Islam."
And how well is radical Islam doing these days in terms of economic and social progress and so on?
QL, on the good side, I don't think the police officer believed his mother for a minute. This was a very professional officer. He hears it all the time.
Some vegan guy is being arch and angry on my radio.
"How many animals died for the Summer of Love!?"
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Donovan has a new record ?
I must admit that the bin Laden message sounds an awful lot like bin-laden-in-a-can.
Echidne | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 2:25 pm | #
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Shut up, woman.
And how well is radical Islam doing these days in terms of economic and social progress and so on?
Echidne
Just 2.5% in non-tax taxes! It's heaven!
/wingnut
Some vegan guy is being arch and angry on my radio.
"How many animals died for the Summer of Love!?"
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Donovan has a new record ?
Douglas Watts
___________________________________________
Donovan? Sounds more like Macca to me.
"Time to start talking to the NE state Dems and find the Progressives in the state."
is one there?
Just 2.5% in non-tax taxes! It's heaven!
Sure sounds like bin Laden is doing a political ad for the GOP, if you ask me.
Is Itchygoo Park or whatever the hell it is Donovan?
Itchycoo Park was a song by the Small Faces with singer Rod Stewart. Not Donovan.
Police could lose the power to keep DNA samples taken from suspects who have been cleared of any wrongdoing, in a landmark case which is to be decided by the highest court in Europe.
A ruling against the British Government could lead to the destruction of tens of thousands of DNA and fingerprint materials as well as deal a severe blow to any plans to create a universal genetic database.
The challenge at the European Court of Human Rights is being brought by a teenager, known as S, who was arrested and charged with attempted robbery aged 11 in 2001, and Michael Marper, from Sheffield, who was arrested on harassment charges, aged 38, in the same year. Both were cleared and have no criminal records.
But the Court of Appeal ruled in 2002 that they cannot ask for their DNA and fingerprint evidence to be destroyed. One of the judges hearing the appeal was Sir Stephen Sedley, who this week called for a national database to include DNA samples taken from every British citizen and any foreign visitors to this country. His comments provoked outrage from the human rights group Liberty, which called his proposal "chilling".
http://news.independent.co.uk/
uk...icle2941849.ece
QL, on the good side, I don't think the police officer believed his mother for a minute. This was a very professional officer. He hears it all the time.
Sallyh
So Maddie is with the other grandmother. Sweet Jesus I don't like the sounds of this. How the hell did they get her?
"Time to start talking to the NE state Dems and find the Progressives in the state."
is one there?
jdw
Seems to me a poster here, about two months ago, said his or her parents live in Nebraska, and a lot of people are still scandalized by his fling with Debra Winger.
In 1983
Is Itchygoo Park or whatever the hell it is Donovan?
No. Itchycoo Park was by Small Faces in 1967.
Hey Moe --
I made the front page of the newspaper today ...
Doug.
http://morningsentinel.mainetoda...al/
4253763.html
Itchycoo Park was a song by the Small Faces with singer Rod Stewart. Not Donovan.
DWD
Rod Stewart? I never would've guessed that
Strawberry Alarm Clock.
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This is an interesting juxtaposition of articles on global warming and international work about stopping or slowing it. First there is this watered down agreement from Australia.
Then there is this Guardian article on earthquakes caused by the ice masses breaking up and on how estimates of ocean rise must be adjusted upwards.
I must see where my snorkeling equipment is..
Echidne,
In this part of Michigan we are about 700 feet above sea level. (We have a spare room)
I mean Strawberry Alarm Clock for Senate.
Doug, that's good work. Keep at them.
This is an interesting juxtaposition of articles on global warming and international work about stopping or slowing it. First there is this watered down agreement from Australia.
Australia will make a lovely atoll.
In all of New York state there's got to be thousands of Dems who are better suited to run for the Senate than a possible Vietnam war criminal with an addled mind.
We have a spare room
I will take you up on that. Me and the snakes.
I mean Strawberry Alarm Clock for Senate.
Incest, Pepperdix, hand signs in stalls
bye for now, going to go watch The Last Night of the Proms
In all of New York state there's got to be thousands of Dems who are better suited to run for the Senate than a possible Vietnam war criminal with an addled mind.
Rudy |
it's for Hagel's seat in Nebraska, Kerrey's in New York running (or at least figure-heading) the New School
I think my end of the San Fernando Valley is about 400 feet above sea level. Maybe when I retire, I'll be living on the beach.
I used to live in the same apartment building as Kerry when he was in DC--the Landsburg Building. He was one crazy driver in the parking lot. Practically hit me on more than one occasion, late in the evening. I think this was during the Debra Winger days.
Echidne,
As the father of two boys, I have already had snakes as well as turtles, hamsters, gerbils, parakeets, dogs, cats, iguanas, chameleons, tarantulas, and others (I think we actually had a baby rattle snake for a while. We fed that one carefully)
Moe Szyslak | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 2:34 pm | #
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Thanks. On Monday I will be filing a Temporary Restraining Order on the dam construction in Kennebec County Superior Court to ask a District Court Judge to halt the work. An attorney friend has been helping me with the specific legal language I need for a TRO, which I have not done before.
If all of Greenland melts the seas will rise over 20 feet. Say good bye to Bangladesh and other coastal areas.
And the South Pole has 11 times as much ice as Greenland and will add to the problem.
Here in Boston, I'm thinking of buying a houseboat and putting it on the Charles River.
Echidne-- you want to be really scared, read James Hansen's latest:
4. Urgency: this problem is nonlinear!
IPCC business-as-usual (BAU) scenarios are constructs in which it is assumed that emissions of CO2 and other greenhouse gases will continue to increase year after year. Some energy analysts take it as almost a law of physics that such growth of emissions will continue in the future. Clearly, there is not sufficiently widespread appreciation of the implications of putting back into the air a large fraction of the carbon stored in the ground over epochs of geologic time. Climate forcing due to these greenhouse gases would dwarf the climate forcing for any time in the past several hundred thousand years, when accurate records of atmospheric composition are available from ice cores. [...]
The IPCC (2007) midrange projection for sea level rise this century is 20–43 cm (8–17 inches) and its full range is 18–59 cm (7–23 inches). The IPCC notes that they are unable to evaluate possible dynamical responses of the ice sheets, and thus do not include any possible `rapid dynamical changes in ice flow'. Yet the provision of such specific numbers for sea level rise encourages a predictable public response that the projected sea level change is moderate, and smaller than in IPCC (2001). Indeed, there have been numerous media reports of `reduced' sea level rise predictions, and commentators have denigrated suggestions that business-as-usual greenhouse gas emissions may cause a sea level rise of the order of meters.
now you are being just a stupid ideologue. Would you rather have Kerrey or the religious nutbag the republicans would elect if we run some "make the blogosphere happy" liberal democrat?
How about we make McConnell defend a very republican seat with someone Iowans would maybe elect.
[more]
The nonlinearity of the ice sheet problem makes it impossible to accurately predict the sea level change on a specific date. However, as a physicist, I find it almost inconceivable that BAU climate change would not yield a sea level change of the order of meters on the century timescale.
Here in Boston, I'm thinking of buying a houseboat and putting it on the Charles River.
Wanna have a stowaway?
now you are being just a stupid ideologue. Would you rather have Kerrey or the religious nutbag the republicans would elect if we run some "make the blogosphere happy" liberal democrat?
AND JOE LIEBERMAN IS A GOOD DEMOCRAT!!!!
Itchycoo Park was a song by the Small Faces with singer Rod Stewart. Not Donovan.
DWD - WordPerfect
I don't believe Rod Stewart was with them when that song came out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itc...i/
Itchycoo_Park
That paper gets into the detail more, if you read the whole thing. And here's the technical version.
The nonlinearity of the ice sheet problem makes it impossible to accurately predict the sea level change on a specific date. However, as a physicist, I find it almost inconceivable that BAU climate change would not yield a sea level change of the order of meters on the century timescale.
It's very hard to model something that hasn't happened in the exact form before, but it's also true that the preference in public debate seems to be accept only the lower estimates.
now you are being just a stupid ideologue. Would you rather have Kerrey or the religious nutbag the republicans would elect if we run some "make the blogosphere happy" liberal democrat?
We don't need another Joe Lieberman.
Your CONCERN is noted, though.
A 5 metre rise in sea level pretty much means the end of human civilization as we know it. Doesn't matter how high you are.
Wanna have a stowaway?
Echidne
There's always room for good people at my place. Even if it's floating!
Hansen's comment that the threat of global warning is non-linear is right on the money.
What is Bill Moyers doing interviewing a former Dem senator that Rush Limbaugh is praising on his radio show?
It's a very strange world we live in.
Bob Kerrey is one of those very very serious people. He's so serious that he talks in impotent gibberish, the preferred lingo of that tribe.
goo goo ga ga
I don't want anything to do with anything or anybody that Rush Limpballs praises.
It's very hard to model something that hasn't happened in the exact form before, but it's also true that the preference in public debate seems to be accept only the lower estimates.
Echidne
But is has happened before-- read the technical paper.
I gotta go, talk later.
Bob Kerrey is one of those very very serious people. He's so serious that he talks in impotent gibberish, the preferred lingo of that tribe.
Woody Allen's Manhattan reminded me of this.
Kerrey's been dead for me since the Clinton administration, which he tried to undercut at every turn.
Fuck the disloyal warmongering shitheel....
Bill Moyers often interviews asshats and thereby reveals them to the world.
Ever see him interview Timmeh about his complicity with Cheney, which Timmeh claimed was "unwitting?"
Fuck the disloyal warmongering shitheel....
steve simels
Gee Steve, tell how you really feel.
Mwah!!!!!!!
Ugh. We're faced with a near-certain Dem pickup and you're falling all over each other to pray it falls through. Insane.
Ever see him interview Timmeh about his complicity with Cheney, which Timmeh claimed was "unwitting?"
Rudy
I actually have no trouble believing that most of what Timmeh does is "unwitting", or at the very least, witless....
Terry,
It sounds like Rod Stewart. I was always told it was.
In the scheme of things it is not worth arguing about. (Where is Simels when you need him, eh?)
Itchycoo Park was a song by the Small Faces with singer Rod Stewart. Not Donovan.
DWD
Rod Stewart? I never would've guessed that
Jim | 09.08.07 - 2:31 pm | #
No, it was Steve Marriott, who later quit to form Humble Pie. That's when Stewart came in....
If you are there Vicki, best wishes to your mother and family today.
gh. We're faced with a near-certain Dem pickup and you're falling all over each other to pray it falls through. Insane.
Mike B.
actually, I'm praying Kerrey stops being a preening, back-stabbing, war-cheer-leading Bush-McCain apologist.
find it interesting that many, many New Yorkers who experienced 9-11 first-hand are much less bloodthirsty than those who weren't personally affected.
Tell that to Rudy.
Oh, that's right...he didn't just experience 9-11; he owns it.
see, shows you what I know, eh?
No, it was Steve Marriott, who later quit to form Humble Pie. That's when Stewart came in....
Simels to the rescue. Excellent.
(Still a good song)
Did anyone try THE PRIDE PARADE? It really is a wonderful song. Honestly.
actually, I'm praying Kerrey stops being a preening, back-stabbing, war-cheer-leading Bush-McCain apologist.
Jim
Sorry. Not gonna happen.
That Kool-Aid has a half-life of 60 years.
Fuck the disloyal warmongering shitheel....
Screw the quisling death loving tool...
So Bob Kerrey wants us to keep doing what we are doing in Iraq, even though he's not sure what that is or if it has anything to do with combating global terror. Sounds like someone just wanted to see their name in the paper.
Rudy Giuliani:
“For me, every day is an anniversary of September 11.”
We did not need to know you masterbation schedule, Princess.
These stories are like chewing on a canker sore. Hurts like hell, but you're compelled.
Rudy Giuliani:
“For me, every day is an anniversary of September 11.”
At least he's discovered his flaw.
Small Faces doing Itchycoo Park on Swedish TV -- excellent quality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...h?
v=fofNPJ8RGdQ
BTW, they had scads of songs this good and they were incedible live....
Rudy Giuliani:
“For me, every day is a celebration of September 11.”
The US Tennis Open is coming down to the wire. Two of my four predicted finalists are already there (Djokovic and Kuznetsova).
I was wrong about Venus beating Henin, but I remain confident that Federer will win his match and beat Djokovic tomorrow.
The Federer match is about to begin on CBS for those who are interested.
Rudy Giuliani:
“For me, every day is a September 11 jackpot.”
Ever see him interview Timmeh about his complicity with Cheney, which Timmeh claimed was "unwitting?"
And yet somehow Timmeh is considered the pinnacle of journalism. It's really weird since Pumpkinhead never had any journalism training. I think Katie Couric may have better credentials.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/arc...ives/
052602.php
The [Seattle] Seahawks quarterback and fullback gave the 43rd president a No. 43 jersey with his name on it at a $1,000-a-plate fundraiser for Rep. Dave Reichert [R] at the Hyatt...
Now, sports teams routinely meet with presidents at the White House after a championship, but this was a little different. Two Seahawks players attended a GOP fundraiser, where they decided, on their own, to honor the president.
Apparently, Bush isn't particularly popular in Seattle, where fans told Hasselbeck and Strong how offended they were with the gesture towards Bush. Then, conservative bloggers argued yesterday how offended they were by Seahawks' fans.
Apparently, the right's argument seems to be that entertainers like football players should be able to express political preferences without hearing vitriolic reactions from fans. It's a free country; going to a GOP fundraiser and applauding the president isn't a crime. Sounds reasonable enough to me.
But I am curious about those making the argument. If football players should be able to express their support for Bush, should the Dixie Chicks be able to express criticism of Bush? If Democrats in Seattle who are bothered by Hasselbeck and Strong are crazy, are conservatives who crushed the Dixie Chicks' CDs with steamrollers expressing mature political opposition?
Just asking.
Hansen's comment that the threat of global warning is non-linear is right on the money.
spinoza
And also not news. We've known that for fucking years.
Timmeh was a lawyer before getting "into" journalism.
Katie Couric was once a perky, competent reporter. Then she got to be a very rich and very big celebrity and forgot that she was in the business of telling the truth.
Her greatest crime? Allowing Flush Limpballs on her CBS News program as her first guest to "express his freedom of speech."
As if America isn't drowning in his bullshit already!
CNN's Jack Cafferty Parrots Winger Line On Dems And Iraq Report
As this blog noted yesterday, The Washington Times and the winger bloggers have been bashing the heck out of Dem Congressional leaders because they describe the coming Iraq assessment as the "Bush report," rather than the "Petraeus report." But as also noted yesterday, the legislation that mandates the report explicitly states that "the President" -- you know, Bush -- is the person who ultimately prepares the report. It's the White House's work, while the commanding general only offers Congressional testimony.
http://
www.talkingpointsmemo.com..._jack_caffe.php
Marty Kaplan on the politization of U.S. generals. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
ma...ie_b_63464.html
A lot of people were disgusted when Vikings coach Mike Tice feted Bush and did the same kind of thing, giving him a jersey. It was offensive because it was using the state's team in a crass political manner.
Tice was gone as coach by the end of the season. Lots of reasons, primarily that he was a bad coach, but I can't help but think his partisan exploitation had an impact.
If football players should be able to express their support for Bush, should the Dixie Chicks be able to express criticism of Bush? If Democrats in Seattle who are bothered by Hasselbeck and Strong are crazy, are conservatives who crushed the Dixie Chicks' CDs with steamrollers expressing mature political opposition?
Personally, I believe public figures are entitled to endorse or criticize whomever they like. And their fans are entitled to react as they see fit. It's when organizations start getting in the act of criticism--as happened with the the Dixie Chicks--that I draw the line.
But I am curious about those making the argument. If football players should be able to express their support for Bush, should the Dixie Chicks be able to express criticism of Bush? If Democrats in Seattle who are bothered by Hasselbeck and Strong are crazy, are conservatives who crushed the Dixie Chicks' CDs with steamrollers expressing mature political opposition?
Heh.
It's like Tweety having country singers or Gary Sinise on to say "I don't know about politics, but I know we've gotta stand by our troops and our commander in chief in a time of war", and the Great Bleached Whale simpers "You're a great American"
Tim Robbins, Ben Affleck, Susan Sarandon who have facts, figures and data to support their opinions are dilletantes presuming to comment of world affairs
Check out a 20 year old Peter Frampton in Humble Pie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7...h?
v=72Mu7sl5DnU
He's a great guitarist - hugely underrated
Aw shucks:
Thompson ended his Iowa appearances with a rally attended by about 200 backers in Davenport. With the Mississippi River as a backdrop, he expressed optimism that the country was up to the challenges in a dangerous world.
"It's in our blood, it's in our tradition," said Thompson. "We do whatever's necessary, hitch up our britches and come out the other end."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070...o/
thompson_iowa
The Seahawks play the Bucs this weekend, and the GM of the Bucs is Bruce Allen, brother of George Allen, and he also had Bush visit the team at some point. It happens.
It's interesting to note how far the political pendulum has swung though.
Public people should be able to express themselves and their fans can react as they wish.
What is wrong with how the Dixie Chicks were treated is that the right wing nutbags tried to economically destroy them for expressing disenchantment with Bushboy.
I still never hear any Dixie Chick songs on the radio, while douchebags like Ted Nugent and Toby Keith continue to get played.
Her greatest crime? Allowing Flush Limpballs on her CBS News program as her first guest to "express his freedom of speech."
Yep. I only watched her a few times out of curiosity -- to see if it was gonna be as bad as I expected -- but I stopped the minute I head she was doing that.
In excusable on a zillion levels....
Never forgot reading about how one of Bob Kerry's hobbies is making collages for people. Not artistic collages, just stuff he puts together to express his thoughts and feelings.
"It's in our blood, it's in our tradition," said Thompson. "We do whatever's necessary, hitch up our britches and come out the other end."
That's an interesting word choice.
Hagel is out, Kerrey is nuts, who do we have left?
Young DWD just came in and reported that he shot a 78 today: good enough to make it to the championship flight for the County Golf Championship. He is pleased. That makes me pleased.
Flying While Amish:
thank goodness the airlines are aware of the complaints of good religious women who cannot tolerate 'babes' in miniskirts flying across the great god-baked nation.
Her greatest crime? Allowing Flush Limpballs on her CBS News program as her first guest to "express his freedom of speech."
There was an interview she did when she took the job, and she said one of her daughters said that she should take the job because she would be the first female solo anchor, and Katie said something like "I didn't know I was raising a little feminist.... I was like, Helen Reddy, hello!!"
I can see why she would want to downplay the inevitable accusations of "token hire", but why play along with this near-Limbaughesque crap?
(Besides the fact that she sounded like a maroon)
Watching a Stagate rerun...
Damn, Claudia Black is a hottie!
Hawk faced, raven haired and paralytically sexy...
Her greatest crime? Allowing Flush Limpballs on her CBS News program as her first guest to "express his freedom of speech."
It was her way of showing off where her allegiences are, kind of like Reagan starting his 1980 campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi.
of course the 'complainee' wasn't Amish.
but I'm sure her J.C. Penney 'slacks' were nicely pressed and her 'spirit' was sanctified because god knows nobody from
al-hooters should be on the 'fly' list.
Small Faces video of All Or Nothing with Marriott interview from a Brit TV show called My Generation.
Hagel is out, Kerrey is nuts, who do we have left?
Lumpenprolitariot
If his future fellow Dem Senators had the balls to point out (all collegial-like, of course) that he was nuts on Iraq, I'd be happier to see him in the race.
Never forgot reading about how one of Bob Kerry's hobbies is making collages for people. Not artistic collages, just stuff he puts together to express his thoughts and feelings.
Cookie Guggleman
applebys receipt + fallen oak leaf + polaroid of hulk hogan + yellow crepe paper in shape of swan = 'My Saturday Alone"............
"It's in our blood, it's in our tradition," said Thompson. "We do whatever's necessary, hitch up our britches and come out the other end."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070...o/ thompson_iowa
hadenough
yep. we come out 'the other end....
'
Fuck'n romney:
"Civilizations have recognized since the beginning of time ... that the ideal setting for raising a child is where there is a mom and a dad," he [romney] said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20070...omney_bin_laden
The guy has no shame.
"It's in our blood, it's in our tradition," said Thompson. "We do whatever's necessary, hitch up our britches and come out the other end."
That's an interesting word choice.
A little too German Hun Nazi for me.
And owls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank goodness the airlines are aware of the complaints of good religious women who cannot tolerate 'babes' in miniskirts flying across the great god-baked nation.
James (Jimmy) Crack Corn
CNN ran a old ad with a stewardess in a mini-skirt and go-go boots bragging about their leg room.
We do whatever's necessary, hitch up our britches and come out the other end."
If it's coming out the other end, you'd do better to lower your britches.
Oh, wait....
"David Vitter to the white courtesy phone!"
Small Faces video of All Or Nothing with Marriott interview from a Brit TV show called My Generation.
Toonscribe: UDFH Local 839 | 09.08.07 - 3:14 pm | #
Cool!!!
Snow: We’re no longer ‘getting killed’ in Iraq.
In an interview with the AP, outgoing White House Press Secretary Tony Snow claimed that the United States is now winning in Iraq:
“If you had asked two months ago, ‘Is the surge succeeding?’ people would have said, ‘Ah, we’re getting killed.’ I mean literally,” White House press secretary Tony Snow said in an interview. “But now it’s very obvious that on the military side there has been some profound progress. And that progress also has real political implications in terms of the Iraqi people standing up to the folks who have been trying to blow up the government.”
Seven U.S. troops were killed in Iraq yesterday, bringing the month’s total to 18. August was the second month in a row that Iraqi civilian deaths rose. 3:11 pm | Comment (0)
Petraeus "confirmed" to media in 2003 that they had found mobile bio-weapons labs in Iraq.
13 May 2003
Washington -- Troops from the U.S. Army's 101st Airborne Division - stationed in northern Iraq and headquartered in Mosul - have found what military authorities believe may be a second mobile biological weapons laboratory, says the division commander.
"The suspected mobile biological agent production lab found on 9 May in our area was found by one of our infantry units during operations at the al-Kindi Rocket and Missile Research and Development Center," Major General David Petraeus said May 13 during a briefing from Mosul. "Our own chemical section looked at the trailer and confirmed it as a trailer that was very close to identical to the first trailer that was found by Special Forces southeast of here last week."
Petraeus said he spoke with experts May 13, and they have a "reasonable degree of certainty that this is in fact a mobile biological agent production trailer."
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wm...0513-
usia01.htm
http://
www.democraticunderground...mesg_id=1762489
Hardly a 'reasonable degree' without checking Janes, stooge.
-
And that progress also has real political implications in terms of the Iraqi people standing up to the folks who have been trying to blow up the government.”
Our new "allies" are Sunni sheiks in Anbar. I don't think they're risking their lives or willing to sacrifice any power to the Shi'ites and Kurds in Maliki's gov't
Shiites.
I've never had skin problems, but now I have a mild case of Dyshidrotic eczema and it itches like poison ivy.
http://www.chall.com/Chall1/
web_...b_derm1_320.jpg
Inexcusable on a zillion levels....
steve simels | Homepage | 09.08.07 - 3:08 pm | #
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Leave us alone !!!
From below:
"Time to start talking to the NE state Dems and find the Progressives in the state."
Hey, Nebraska is a conservative state. Even a Democrat who may not agree with everything you want is better that a conservative Republican. I want a Democratic candidate who can win, not one who will go down in flames. If Kerry is that man, so be it. The "rule or ruin" approach to politics often leads to ruin.
Kerry was interesting once when he was NE governor then senator. Performance in the Senate adequate but he couldn't decide if he wanted to be a senator or the President, likes his name in the paper too much for Nebraskans.
Read this article for the local scoop:
http://journalstar.com/articles/
...9b978572719.txt
Progressive candidate would be Scott Kleeb:
http://www.nebraskademocrats.org...eb-for-
congress
Only good thing for us Husker Dems is watching the Republicans shred each other (and their $$$) in the primary.
BGRS
So far as Bob Kerrey is concerned, we don't need another Joe Lieberman.
Wow, Is that dude Mossad like Blowmentom or something?
It's so easy to dump on Kerry -- particularly if you're not a Nebraskan and are blissfully ignorant of the alternative. In the name of misplaced idealism, you guy want to trade in a lead-pipe cinch victory and hand the Senate seat over to a self-serving Bush rubberstamp -- cuz that's what will happen if you pit any of the no-name 2nd tier Dems against an Attorney General who is in the news daily (and has been for years).
John deCamp on Kerry in Franklin Coverup...not good
Do you know ANYTHING about John DeCamp?
I didn't think so.
I actually like the guy. He has a law office a few blocks down the street from me. I see him quite often. But DeCamp has a well-earned reputation as a bit of crackpot that predates the Franklin scandal by many years. Doesn't mean he's wrong -- but few people here give him the benefit of the doubt without a whole lotta evidence to back up what he says.
Why do you think this clown was appointed to the 9/11 commission anyway? It's because he's a player. He's not a "democrat", he's part of the establishment.
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