I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

ahhhh


Ho

I mean First!


Gravatarsurely not first? moi?


GravatarI prefer to be fourth.


GravatarLesson learned...

Panic at the keyboard and you come in second.


Gravatarjust as I thought. not-first


GravatarI haven't heard. Has Alan Greenspan immolated himself out of shame yet?


GravatarHopefully, Barack Obama won't relive Gary Hart's 1984 New Jersey nightmare in Pennsylvania:

In late May and early June 1984, Hart was locked in a tight New Jersey primary contest he had to win to deny Mondale a first-ballot nomination at the Democratic convention the following month. At a California fundraiser eerily reminiscent of Obama's this week, Hart and his wife Lee spoke with reporters at a Los Angeles event. In one moment of carelessness, Hart, too, struck a nerve with voters in a critical state. As Time recalled:

In a classic campaign boner, he exposed his sarcastic side at a fund raiser in Los Angeles. The "bad news," he told a well-heeled audience standing on the lawn of a Bel Air mansion, is that he has to campaign apart from his wife Lee. "The good news for her is that she campaigns in California while I campaign in New Jersey." When Mrs. Hart interjected, "I got to hold a koala bear," Hart sniggered, "I won't tell you what I got to hold: samples from a toxic-waste dump."

Hart went from closing fast on Mondale in the Garden State to a decisive 15 point blowout a week later. Mondale went on to sew up the Democratic nomination thanks to the delegates he swept in New Jersey. The rest, as they say, is history.

For more on the history and worrisome parallels, see:
"Will Obama Relive Hart's '84 New Jersey Nightmare in Pennsylvania?"


Gravatar"Will Obama Relive Hart's '84 New Jersey Nightmare in Pennsylvania?"




Oh, boy - some people are really reaching.


GravatarIt's such a burden being a PA voter.


GravatarI haven't heard. Has Alan Greenspan immolated himself out of shame yet?
underwhelm


Hopefully, they'll throw Andrea on the pyre with him.


GravatarGaak!!

Just showing up and reading that last post, I'm not sure what it is I'm supposed to enjoy.....


GravatarWhat kind of whiskey?


GravatarI heard Obama said roofdecks are "for plebes."


GravatarWHISKEY!


GravatarUhm, Obama doesn't have to win PA. Clinton does. Obama still wins the nom, even losing PA, Clinton is toast, probably even if she wins PA, certainly if she loses.


GravatarThe Firth of Fourth..


GravatarSeems like an opportune time for bed.

'Night, all.


GravatarStrange New Thread.


GravatarFor more on the history and worrisome parallels, see:
"Will Obama Relive Hart's '84 New Jersey Nightmare in Pennsylvania?"
AngryOne


No, thanks.


GravatarCan we stop this internecine squabbling, finally and at long last?


GravatarCan we stop this internecine squabbling, finally and at long last?

When the corn is knee high it'll all be over.


GravatarI heard Obama said roofdecks are "for plebes."

Weird, I heard Hillary say the same thing about caucuses.


GravatarNelson, NZ - Feb 2009: I can find housing for a week for 20-30 of you. We can be your guides. Here's Nelson - note the arrow.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 11:24 pm |


Is that a beach nearby?

Are you near the Estuary?


GravatarCan we stop this internecine squabbling, finally and at long last?
Duane V, Bitter Classist


Why?


GravatarCan we stop this internecine squabbling, finally and at long last?
Duane V, Bitter Classist


Sounds good to me.

I would rather trash McCain.


GravatarCan we stop this internecine squabbling, finally and at long last?

*tickle's Duane's neck assuming that it has something to do with "internecine"*


GravatarUhm, Obama doesn't have to win PA. Clinton does. Obama still wins the nom, even losing PA, Clinton is toast, probably even if she wins PA, certainly if she loses.
MikeJ

Yes. Which is why someone, for some odd reason, seems to think if they distort completely what it was that Obama said, they'll "revitalize" her campaign, with a ten plus point victory..Ho, hum.. na ga happen!!


Gravatarwe're going to be in Mexico this winter, but I'm going to make some calls - Feb in NZ would rule. New President, New Zealand, New Friends


GravatarToday would have been a nice day to enjoy a cold LAGER up on that roofdeck.


GravatarCan we stop this internecine squabbling, finally and at long last?
Duane V, Bitter Classist | 04.12.08 - 11:29 pm | #


Zactly. Its not just about Obama v. Hillary. Its which side gets to nominate the next Supremes. Which side controls the House and Senate. etc etc. This whole "If Hillary/Obama is the nominee, I'm sitting out the election" is crap. Get over it.


GravatarApparently Carter and Gore want Clinton out.


GravatarCan we stop this internecine squabbling, finally and at long last?

This is supposed to be a happy occasion!
Let's not argue and bicker over who killed who!


GravatarCan we stop this internecine squabbling, finally and at long last

Answer unclear, ask again later....


GravatarFor more on the history and worrisome parallels

AngryOne




More like a whole lot of wishful thinking.


Gravatar*tickle's Duane's neck assuming that it has something to do with "internecine"*
Echidne


-giggles-


GravatarInternecine. (God, I'm lonely.)


Gravatar...someone, for some odd reason, seems to think if they distort completely what it was that Obama said, they'll "revitalize" her campaign...

Politicians, twisting words to make their opponents look bad!

Beauregard - the fainting couch! QUICK!!!


GravatarI don't believe a vowel of that story in The Scotsman


GravatarI would rather trash McCain.
Terry C, Obama 08


Except that's not what you do. You trash HRC constantly. That's cool. Just don't be a fraud about it.


GravatarI would rather trash McCain.
Terry C, Obama 08


Trash any and all repukes. Consistently and with force.


GravatarOver the years, quite a few of us have discussed running off to New Zealand.

Maybe if we pool our money and apply for political asylum...

Your country needs you, seriously.
Little Boots | 04.12.08 - 11:27 pm |


I know it needs me.

But I have wanted to go to New Zealand since I was about 8 years old, when my parents let me run loose in the travel section of our local library. I saw a picture of Mt. Egmont (now Taranaki) and realized I needed to go wherever that was.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mou.../ Mount_Taranaki


GravatarAs an Illinois resident, I will be happy to have Barack as my Senator for the next 10 years.

Hopefully, Hillary is able to beat McCain in November.


GravatarI am pro-squabbling as long as it doesn't descend into name-calling.


GravatarCan we stop this internecine squabbling, finally and at long last?
Duane V, Bitter Classist

(Oh hell, I am not even going to bother anymore but if there was one defining moment that really lays the future open to debate, this might be it. Whether you agree or disagree about the "Facts" seems to be the question. If you seek any moment as a moment that might open the door for your candidate and a way to immolate the other candidate, then I seriously question your motivation. What is it that you seek? Don't we all want the same thing?)

Maybe not. And that scares me.


Gravatarhttp://www.tradingmarkets.com/.s...20News/1354729/


GravatarI would rather trash McCain.
Terry C, Obama 08

Trash any and all repukes. Consistently and with force.
left field, 99.9% dirty hippie


Thank you, I will.


GravatarThis whole "If Hillary/Obama is the nominee, I'm sitting out the election" is crap. Get over it.

Agreed, though Hillary is starting to chap my ass somewhat.


GravatarToday would have been a nice day to enjoy a cold LAGER up on that roofdeck.

Not here, it was snowing this afternoon. Fortunatly it didn't last.


GravatarI think Hart losing had more to do with this than any charges of elitism:

http://www.americanheritage.com/...8-Gary- Hart.jpg


GravatarBut I made myself feel better with a $100 donation to Obama...


GravatarHillary has no chance. So the GE has already started.


GravatarYou trash HRC constantly


No, I do not, Elias.

Get your facts straight before you got pointing your finger.


GravatarI'm voting for Harold Stassen this November.


GravatarBut I have wanted to go to New Zealand since I was about 8 years old, when my parents let me run loose in the travel section of our local library. I saw a picture of Mt. Egmont (now Taranaki) and realized I needed to go wherever that was.

Well, okay then, but hurry back.


GravatarMt. Egmont (now Taranaki) and realized I needed to go wherever that was.

No, you don't. Ugh.

The Remarkables - that's where you want to go.


Gravatarwe're going to be in Mexico this winter, but I'm going to make some calls - Feb in NZ would rule. New President, New Zealand, New Friends
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 11:32 pm |


I'm going to have to start putting a lot more in my savings account.


Gravatarnon-political. no hatred here.

Went hiking today. Saw the Time Bandit, from Discovery's "Deadliest Catch" show at the Fisherman's Terminal.

On a related note, I don't like paying $30/lb for salmon. I'm sorry California, you'll just have to do without. We're keeping what we've got.


Gravatar*tickle's Duane's neck assuming that it has something to do with "internecine"*
Echidne


Mo-ooom!!

Does husband number 12 1/2 know what you're up to?


GravatarIf you seek any moment as a moment that might open the door for your candidate and a way to immolate the other candidate, then I seriously question your motivation.

Politicians want to win.

Shocking, I know. You're welcome to clutch these pearls.

Good night, kids! Drive safely!


GravatarSorry -

before you start pointing the finger.



No one is going to accuse me of doing something I most certainly do not do!


GravatarDoes husband number 12 1/2 know what you're up to?

Cyber-flirting doesn't count. Does it?


GravatarWho on Earth would have thought that a two year old with a full stomach could hold out and stay awake until 11:15?


GravatarUhm, Obama doesn't have to win PA. Clinton does. Obama still wins the nom, even losing PA, Clinton is toast, probably even if she wins PA, certainly if she loses.
MikeJ


If you want to feel that confident about a candidate who doesn't do so well in the largest electoral states, then please, don't think larger than your narrow, short-term goals.


GravatarBut I have wanted to go to New Zealand since I was about 8 years old, when my parents let me run loose in the travel section of our local library. I saw a picture of Mt. Egmont (now Taranaki) and realized I needed to go wherever that was.

Well, okay then, but hurry back.
Little Boots | 04.12.08 - 11:35 pm |


No.

I'm not spending 18-20 hours on a plane just getting there to 'hurry back.'


GravatarBut I have wanted to go to New Zealand since I was about 8 years old, when my parents let me run loose in the travel section of our local library. I saw a picture of Mt. Egmont (now Taranaki) and realized I needed to go wherever that was.

Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins

I read a book by Helen Caldicott when I was about thirteen and have felt the same way about both New Zealand and Australia ever since.


Gravatari HAD TO STOP SMOKING MARIJUANA BECAUSE IT WAS MAKING ME PARANOID.


Gravatarplease, don't think larger than your narrow, short-term goals.




Condescend much?


GravatarI don't believe a vowel of that story in The Scotsman

No true vowel would appear in that story.


GravatarPlease. More proxy political campaigning. It's gripping.


Gravatarwabbit season


Gravatarsalmon used to be my favorite food, now i feel guilty eating it


GravatarI don't believe a vowel of that story in The Scotsman

If its not the Scotsman - Its CRAP.


GravatarPlease. More proxy political campaigning. It's gripping.

AMEN.


Gravatar2-Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me.


GravatarElias is an elitist who talks down to people and who probably windsurfs and looks French too.


GravatarWho on Earth would have thought that a two year old with a full stomach could hold out and stay awake until 11:15?

Uh, me?


GravatarWho on Earth would have thought that a two year old with a full stomach could hold out and stay awake until 11:15?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator

stop being so fascinating.


Gravatar3-Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me.


GravatarWho on Earth would have thought that a two year old with a full stomach could hold out and stay awake until 11:15?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator

Umm, Anyone who has ever had one?


GravatarG'night all you DFH's. May Hecate send you warm dreams.


GravatarCyber-flirting doesn't count. Does it?
Echidne


It duz if ur tickling them.......


Gravatarwabbit season
Salieri, duck killah



Yeah, that worked real well for John Kerry.


GravatarMt. Egmont (now Taranaki) and realized I needed to go wherever that was.

No, you don't. Ugh.

The Remarkables - that's where you want to go.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 11:35 pm


Funny thing is, when I put together my plans for what I'd hope was going to be a trip 2 years ago, Taranaki wasn't on it. Not enough time, too far out of the way. Several days in Queenstown and Nelson, though.


GravatarWho on Earth would have thought that a two year old with a full stomach could hold out and stay awake until 11:15?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator



GravatarDoes husband number 12 1/2 know what you're up to?

Cyber-flirting doesn't count. Does it?
Echidne

I won't tell if you don't. What happens on Eschaton, stays on Eschaton...


GravatarHecate, 2 year olds can always outlast us.


GravatarIf you want to feel that confident about a candidate who doesn't do so well in the largest electoral states, then please, don't think larger than your narrow, short-term goals.
Elias: Sans guns or religion. | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 11:36 pm | #


I see you are part of the "California and New York is in play if Barack gets the nomination" crowd.

As far as narrow short term goals, that is not why I support Barack.


GravatarNo.

I'm not spending 18-20 hours on a plane just getting there to 'hurry back.'


Okay, fine. Book an American Airlines flight back. Just vote absentee.


GravatarWho on Earth would have thought that a two year old with a full stomach could hold out and stay awake until 11:15?

Uh, me?
Thers | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 11:39 pm |


Human barnacles are fun!


Gravatar4- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


GravatarApparently Carter and Gore want Clinton out.
Gomez


If so, they're acting in a timely manner.


GravatarIn any case, I've only been married once. Still on the first marriage, I mean.


GravatarRemember that video that the Pentagon told McHenry to take down?

Seems like it is still up on a US Government Web Site:

http://mchenry.house.gov/Uploade...er% 20Attack.wmv

Funny -- emails that are subpoenaed disappear spontaneously, but footage that may have helped kill US service personnel just cannot be deleted for some reason. Hmmph.


GravatarI won't tell if you don't. What happens on Eschaton, stays on Eschaton...
Duane V, Bitter Classist | 04.12.08 - 11:39 pm


CoT's having a little difficulty with that these days.


GravatarStill 71 here in Portland
perfect
any hotter and i get bitchy


GravatarYeah, that worked real well for John Kerry.
Talk about toe-curling embarassment. John Kerry going hunting to spruce up his nonexistent good ol' boy image.
Almost as agonizing to watch as The Dukakis Tank Ride.


GravatarHecate, 2 year olds can always outlast us.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere



Amazing, ain't it?


GravatarI'm not spending 18-20 hours on a plane just getting there to 'hurry back.'
Buckeye. Dealer of Rare Coins


Eggzackly.
If I'm spending that much time traveling, I'm taking mah time once I get there......


GravatarIf you want to feel that confident about a candidate who doesn't do so well in the largest electoral states, then please, don't think larger than your narrow, short-term goals.

Do you honestly think that Obama would not defeat McCain in New York, or California, or New Jersey, or Ohio in a head-to-head matchup? You can't possibly be that dense.


Gravatar5- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


GravatarTalk about toe-curling embarassment. John Kerry going hunting to spruce up his nonexistent good ol' boy image.
Almost as agonizing to watch as The Dukakis Tank Ride.
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash



WHY do they persist in playing to people who are not going to vote for them in a million years?????????


GravatarUh, me?

First time ever for separation anxiety. Every time we were almost asleep he'd ask "Daddy?" or "Mommy?" I have promised about 10,000 times that when they show up tomorrow morning they will (1) be so surprised that we made cookies with blue sprinkles and (2) will take us out for breakfast and buy us muffins. It had better happen.


GravatarSNL making fun of Code Pink.


GravatarIn any case, I've only been married once. Still on the first marriage, I mean.

Me, too. I chalk my "success" up to having my reception in a Tokyo dive bar.


GravatarONLY KRUGMAN GOES THERE: Just yesterday, speaking with a friend, we marveled about the way the press corps dropped the late Trina Bachtel’s story—after her story stopped serving their interests. Bachtel is the young Ohio woman who died, a few years ago, in another insurance horror story. Last week, the press corps was all over her story—and then, it was dropped like a rock.

This morning, the Times’ Paul Krugman re-explores Bachtel’s story. But then, Krugman is the only person at our biggest news orgs who will go where this story leads us.
http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh041.../ dh041108.shtml


Gravatar6- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


GravatarA post I've just finished, the theme of which is sort of, what we talk about when we talk about race. http://populisthope.blogspot.com...ose- people.html


GravatarHow about a candidate who does well in states which did not go Democratic last time, such as Iowa and Missouri?


GravatarSNL making fun of Code Pink.
bo


They need to sign up and die.


GravatarTerry, I remember telling Mlle, you need to go to bed now because I'm tired.

What I wouldn't do to have her back.


GravatarHas everyone seen this kitty?

I feel like that a lot...
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GravatarHecate, 2 year olds can always outlast us.

I don't know why you people put up with them.


Gravatar7- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


Gravatar8- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


GravatarThis morning, the Times’ Paul Krugman re-explores Bachtel’s story. But then, Krugman is the only person at our biggest news orgs who will go where this story leads us.

That's because Krug is bitter.
Also shrill.


Gravatar"Hecate, 2 year olds can always outlast us.

I don't know why you people put up with them."

for one thing, they're very good with fries.


GravatarSpeedette has seldom ever gone to bed before midnight, and she's doing OK.

In fact she's kicking everyone's ass scholastically. Has a lot of tardies, but still. She stays up late trying to improve her parents.

God love her.


GravatarHectate, what have you done to Elias?

Turn him into a newt insead!!!


GravatarTerry, I remember telling Mlle, you need to go to bed now because I'm tired.

I remember my mom going upstairs to make my younger sister (then about two) to go asleep. Some time after I went up and my sister came out of her room with her finger in front of her lips. "Shh! Mom is asleep."


GravatarI can't wait to vote April 22nd. Should be interesting.
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GravatarIn any case, I've only been married once. Still on the first marriage, I mean.
Echidne


So where did all teh husbands on teh mantel come from?


Gravatar{{{Uncle Blodge!!!}}}

How's the stomach?


GravatarOnce, twice...eight times a putz.


GravatarOkay, what's the deal with Elias?


GravatarElias - up the dosage.

I've had to put you back in killfile. You're acting crazy again.


Gravatar9- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


GravatarI don't know why you people put up with them.

Well genetics spaces their eyes far apart and at the very end, they roll over, give you a milky kiss, and say, "Night, night, Nonna." It's Mother Nature's way of making you love them and let them survive.


GravatarIn any case, I've only been married once. Still on the first marriage, I mean.
Echidne

So where did all teh husbands on teh mantel come from?


Ah. I see the confusion! That is Echidne, the goddess. I'm the other one.


GravatarMy mom used to put us to sleep with Nights in White Satin.


GravatarSome time after I went up and my sister came out of her room with her finger in front of her lips. "Shh! Mom is asleep."
Echidne


That's usually the way it works.


GravatarIt is starting to get annoying.


GravatarIt can't help itself.


GravatarTenth time is a charm?


GravatarPoliticians want to win.

Shocking, I know. You're welcome to clutch these pearls.

Good night, kids! Drive safely!
dave™©

OK, That explains the politicians, what about the supporters?

And I am not clutching pearls, I am just wondering at people's sensibilities. Truly this fight has gone on beyond all reason. All of those involved now have to ask themselves why.

Again, I am trying to make this non-specific. The last few weeks have not been kind to Clinton Campaign. If they were hoping for a watershed moment and for support to being moving their way it has not happened. In fact it appears just the opposite has occurred. Still they persist looking for that one moment that will blow up in the other guy's face. And they cannot find one, they will invent one no matter how silly it makes them look.

This is not helpful to the party or to the people whose support they need.


Gravatar"How's the stomach?"

new meds working ok.

kids still stressin me.

wish I could have a shot of scotch

but I'm ok


GravatarAh. I see the confusion! That is Echidne, the goddess. I'm the other one.
Echidne


And you think that all men being snakes is a good thing.


GravatarWell genetics spaces their eyes far apart and at the very end, they roll over, give you a milky kiss, and say, "Night, night, Nonna." It's Mother Nature's way of making you love them and let them survive.

Psy-ops. Got it.


GravatarI've had to put you back in killfile. You're acting crazy again.

Just following Prior A's advice. He said you should forgive people who falsely accuse you. I think he said it's in the Bible. 70 X 7? Sorry I can't chat, if got a ways to go...


GravatarHahahhahaha. He's apologizing 70 times 700 times.

I still think a newt is better.


GravatarUncle Blodge, if you want, call me, it's early here.


Gravatar"Shh! Mom is asleep."

Heh. I can relate.


GravatarAnd you think that all men being snakes is a good thing.
Gomez


Depends which "you" one questions.


Gravatar10- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


Gravatar"I think he said it's in the Bible. 70 X 7?"

bible also says some shit about not doing things in public like the hypocrites.


GravatarElias, a word of advice. Stop being a dickhead and people won't treat you like a dickhead.


Gravatar11- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


GravatarI am just wondering at people's sensibilities. Truly this fight has gone on beyond all reason. All of those involved now have to ask themselves why.

Let me qualify my comment by first saying that I plan to vote for his awesomeness on April 22,

I think alot of people look at that 2004 blue and red map and think in order to win, the candidate has to take the election in Florida, Ohio, maybe Virginia, maybe Colorado. And they don't necessarily think Obama will win in those states.


Gravatarshhh. Atrios is asleep.


GravatarThis whole "If Hillary/Obama is the nominee, I'm sitting out the election" is crap. Get over it.

It's childish. Not even Junior High, but Grade School.

Agreed, though Hillary is starting to chap my ass somewhat.
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash


I hear ya. Politicians'll do that to ya. What chaps my ass is when all is said and done, you have to vote for one of the ass-chappers, and like it. The alternative being...well, worse than an ass-chapping, let's put it that way...


GravatarElias, that means you keep forgiving each different time someone hurts you. Not a billions times for the same thing.

Sheesh.


GravatarAn object lesson in what's annoying about people who believe that the Bible is the literal truth.


GravatarToons, it could be worse.  Monsieur is in Presque Isle, Maine, for a funeral as we speak.  It's in the low 20s.


GravatarIt is starting to get annoying.
Gomez



Entering Incog territory now.


GravatarPrior Aelred is a friend of mine. I'm fairly certain that Prior Aelred never told anyone to lie and never told anyone to be an annoying asshole. As Grommit noted, Prior A and I are old friends. NTodd has the nicest picture of Prior Aelred and my hands.


GravatarMy secretary is voting for Hillary.

I intend to lie to her.


Gravatarshhh. Atrios is asleep.

No, just passed out drunk, again.


Gravatarbible also says some shit about not doing things in public like the hypocrites.

Yeah, the bible talks a lot of crazy. But that sermon on the mount is worth the price of admission.


Gravataranybody who thinks CA and NY would go mcbush instead of obama is high

please share


GravatarElias, a word of advice. Stop being a dickhead and people won't treat you like a dickhead.

Love to chat, but I've got work to do.

11- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


Gravatar"Uncle Blodge, if you want, call me, it's early here."

thanks but i got a kid asleep in every room

they are still cute when asleep even at 14

speaking of that - my 14 year old apologized to me for "getting in your face like that" without nagging and even more publically than he got bitchy at me.

it was really cool


Gravatar34- I forgive Elias for boring the fuck out of me.
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GravatarSallyh - I don't think I could survive the low 20s anymore. California has thinned my blood.


GravatarThe alternative being...well, worse than an ass-chapping, let's put it that way...

It's a choice between a collective ass which is only moderately chapped, and one which is lost altogether.


GravatarUncle Blodge, my kid stressed and still stresses me, but what helps me cope is knowing she's BETTER THAN ME.

She deserves my time, love, and patience. When I'm gone she'll still be around, and she should have the love and respect that most of us still think we deserve, though we mostly don't.

Kids are better and more important that us.

Love--


GravatarHecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.




I really don't think she cares.


GravatarMister X, how are Missus, Master and Missy?


GravatarEver since I've stopped drinking I've noticed that people drink too much.


GravatarEchidne,

Check this out.

Have listened to this song 15 times in the last 45 minutes.


GravatarSheesh.
annie


Bible's all about interpretation annie.

12- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


Gravatarshhh. Atrios is asleep.

No, just passed out drunk, again.


How premature of him.


GravatarToons, yeah, that's what Monsieur said when he called a few minutes ago


GravatarAir New Zealand is the best airline in the world. But know this - they go at night; it's dark the whole time and scary, bumpy as hell. All 11 hours of it.

I hate it. But the booze is free.


Gravatar"I forgive Elias for boring the fuck out of me."

I don't. it's stupid, pointless, ignorant and counter - productive to his professed desire to not be viewed as an asshole.


GravatarSpeedy,

I just picked up the makings of a very nice amatriciana, to be made with plain ole semolina pasta.


GravatarAh. I see the confusion! That is Echidne, the goddess. I'm the other one.
Echidne


Hunh.
How iz we s'posed to tell u apart?


GravatarOh, fer fucksake...PLONK!!


GravatarSometimes I'll do a bad thing, like go to teh orange satan and keep the baby blue cherub or sadly,no comments open but damn, the shark has gone done jumped the Clintons.

Daffy din' doit! He was framed!


Gravatar
Have listened to this song 15 times in the last 45 minutes.


All I can thik when I hear the Apple commercial is
1 2 3 4 I declare a thumb war


GravatarOh pie! Thanks for the wedding pics! Just gorgeous!


GravatarHunh.
How iz we s'posed to tell u apart?
flory


She's the other one.


GravatarSNL is mildly funny - "the cougar den" show is on right now.


Gravatarflory,

Any chance of you getting your shapely ass down to Austin the weekend of June 6th?

There's a meeting you really should attend.


GravatarMister X, how are Missus, Master and Missy?
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


All are well and ramping up for summer... MasterX likes to draw, MissyX likes to shout from her butt, and MissusX's eyes are all worn down from the daily rolling... how's bayou?
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GravatarAh. I see the confusion! That is Echidne, the goddess. I'm the other one.
Echidne

Hunh.
How iz we s'posed to tell u apart?


Yeah, you bein so goddessy and all! Taint fair.


GravatarIs the trumpet a punishing instrument to play?


GravatarI think Cameron Diaz is channel Pamela Oshry on SNL.


GravatarHave listened to this song 15 times in the last 45 minutes.
res ipsa loquitur

Love that song..


GravatarPrior Aelred, should I forgive someone who falsely accuses me?
Elias: Sans guns & religion. | Homepage | 04.11.08 - 11:12 pm | #


Elias -- 70 X 7
Prior Aelred | Homepage | 04.11.08 - 11:15 pm | #


13- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


GravatarI've seen Code Pink being made fun of on TDS. I'll watch SNL later and see what they do but I'm beginning to feel that-in-your-face female political activists tend to bring out the mysogenist even in left of center comedians.


GravatarHave listened to this song 15 times in the last 45 minutes.

Listening to it right now.


GravatarAny chance of you getting your shapely ass down to Austin the weekend of June 6th?

There's a meeting you really should attend.
res ipsa loquitur


You haven't talked to tigre about this haz you?
It's on mah calendar.......


GravatarGlen Greenwald's gonna be at my bookstore Wednesday signing books. I may juggle dancing w the witches to get him to sign his new book for me.


GravatarYeah, you bein so goddessy and all! Taint fair.
Little Boots


I have never been to the Taint Fair... what should I bring?
-


GravatarAh. I see the confusion! That is Echidne, the goddess. I'm the other one.
Echidne

Hunh.
How iz we s'posed to tell u apart?

Yeah, you bein so goddessy and all! Taint fair.


Who ever said that goddesses are fair, hmh?


GravatarNight, all



Peace.

(I am sorry I just really think it is time to stop this stupid shit and start a unified attack on McSame and his inane ideas and the people who support him. Enough is enough. Obama did not say anything that did not need saying and to see my friends try to say he did is sad. Very sad)


GravatarI think Cameron Diaz is channel Pamela Oshry on SNL.
res ipsa loquitur


That's just....wrong......


GravatarGlen Greenwald's gonna be at my bookstore Wednesday signing books.

He have a book tour cal up anywhere?


GravatarI'm beginning to feel that-in-your-face female political activists tend to bring out the mysogenist even in left of center comedians.

Yup. Robin Morgan didn't write "Goodbye to All That" to the right; she wrote it to the left.


GravatarThe choreography in the video reminds me of Mark Morris on an especially playful day.

I like Broken Social Scene. Never was aware of this song, though.

flory,

Did not know that. Excellent.


GravatarMister X, I'm hanging in.  Not my best day, but not my worst, either.


GravatarI have never been to the Taint Fair... what should I bring?

A jockstrap, and very little else.


GravatarHe have a book tour cal up anywhere?

Dunno, but my bookstore has sign up saying that he'll be there Wednesday.


GravatarI may juggle dancing w the witches to get him to sign his new book for me.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Dance with Glenn instead!


GravatarComment by Elias blocked.



Enough is enough!


GravatarIs the trumpet a punishing instrument to play?
wald


Don't hold the mouthpiece just right, it'll tickle yer lips right off on a high note...


GravatarPrior Aelred, should I forgive someone who falsely accuses me?
Elias: Sans guns & religion. | Homepage | 04.11.08 - 11:12 pm | #


Elias -- 70 X 7
Prior Aelred | Homepage | 04.11.08 - 11:15 pm | #

13- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.
Elias: Sans guns or religion.


Unless she has accused you falsely 70x7 times, forgiving her once. Is. Quite. Sufficient.


GravatarUgh. I go to the NYT and see the BHO has apologized for "bitter."

Barf.


Gravatar14- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.

15- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


GravatarIt's a very dancy tune, res.


GravatarI'm probably seeing "The Marriage Counselor" tomorrow.

Not an actual shrink. The play.


GravatarHave listened to this song 15 times in the last 45 minutes.
res ipsa loquitur


The entire album is really, really, really good.


GravatarThat's sixteen times ...


GravatarForgive me for re-posting that tireless twattle from Elias.


GravatarMister X, I'm hanging in. Not my best day, but not my worst, either.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


I'm glad to be part of your not worst day! Draw a tiny bit of strength from us, please.
-


GravatarThe entire album is really, really, really good.

Think I'm going to have to get that.

Was made aware of Broken Social via "Half Nelson," which was pretty terrific if you haven't seen it.


GravatarForgive me for re-posting that tireless twattle from Elias.

certainly. However, once will be sufficient.


GravatarMister X, let me tell you, it's a lot more than a tiny bit I'm drawing


GravatarIt's a very dancy tune, res.

You can sing it while you wash your windows, too!


GravatarI'm beginning to feel that-in-your-face female political activists tend to bring out the misogynist even in left of center comedians.


Sad.

And frustrating.


Gravatar ORANGE JUICE - RIP IT UP


Gravatarcertainly. However, once will be sufficient.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher


Thank you. At least you're not holier-than-thou about it, unlike a certain other person.


GravatarI've written about the Great American Nonexistent Vacation. Done.


GravatarOrange juice is for communists.


Gravatar16- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


GravatarSeventeen ...


GravatarI have to find a very glum gravatar so that I can use it when I'm posting as me rather as me.


GravatarI offered G/Son apple juice or berry juice tonight and he said "Want apple." I imagine he'll be president in 33 years.


Gravatar16- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.
Elias: Sans guns or religion.


You're Incog - right?


GravatarWho ever said that goddesses are fair, hmh?

Well, not Actaeon, I'm guessing. But I'm guessing he had it coming.


GravatarWhere, Echidne? The Nation?


GravatarWhich is the hardest instrument to learn and which is the most punishing to play. Give a ranking if possible.

Trumpet
Trombone
Alto Sax
Tenor Sax
Clarinet
Violin


GravatarSeventeen ...

Third round.


GravatarDWD

Agree..


GravatarI'm beginning to feel that-in-your-face female political activists tend to bring out the misogynist even in left of center comedians.

Lazy people perpetuate stereotypes. It works like a big easy button. I agree with it being sad.


GravatarWhere, Echidne? The Nation?

Not yet. Perhaps on Monday.


GravatarUnless she has accused you falsely 70x7 times, forgiving her once. Is. Quite. Sufficient.
DJ


I should wait for Prior A to clarify.

17- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


GravatarYou're ruining this thread Elias.

Now you need to apologize to each and everyone of us.


Gravatarwald, the violin's a bitch in that she's very, very picky about how she's handled. Physically not the most punishing, but very unforgiving nonetheless.

Granted, this is the only instrument on your list that I play.


GravatarOh boy: File under: Please Kill Me:
A SoHo storefront offers DNA analysis to gauge the risk of contracting one of 18 conditions, including breast cancer, a heart attack and Alzheimer’s disease.


GravatarYou're Incog - right?
Gomez


At this point, who really gives a shit?


GravatarI just popped a microwave pizza in the oven, and the instructions actually said "Cook before eating."

We're doomed.


GravatarOkay sorry, but give me a fucking break lady!


CNN:

"“You know, my dad took me out behind the cottage that my grandfather built on a little lake called Lake Winola outside of Scranton and taught me how to shoot when I was a little girl,” she said.

“You know, some people now continue to teach their children and their grandchildren. It’s part of culture. It’s part of a way of life. People enjoy hunting and shooting because it’s an important part of who they are. Not because they are bitter.”"


GravatarOh, and New Jersey is considering privatizing its toll roads.


Gravatar
Lazy people perpetuate stereotypes.


I think this is right. Honestly, I don't think SNL wants to hate women, it's just easier that way.

Next up, Poontang, the woman that THOUGHT she could drive, but we know better, don't we fellas!?!


GravatarClarinet = hardest. Scale is odd because of the physics of the shape. The sax was formed to get around that difficulty.


GravatarXVIII ...


GravatarThe entire album is really, really, really good.

Think I'm going to have to get that.


The album is called "The Reminder" by Feist. This is her solo debut. She has (and probably will again in the future) been part of Broken Social Scene but this album is all hers.


GravatarCan I just say that Mommy and Daddy have tossed all the mimis (aka pacifiers) but Nonna saved some? Nonna is no dummy.


GravatarDoh! Screwed up that date tonight. Got the wrong time written down in the day planner and totally stood her up by accident. Oh well. Weird thing is she seems to want me more now that I profusely apologized and accepted full responsibility.

The good news is that I get to spend the rest of the evening with you fine folks instead of getting physical contact with another human.


GravatarNow you need to apologize to each and everyone of us.

You sure I'm the one who needs to apologize?

18- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


GravatarPeople enjoy hunting and shooting because it’s an important part of who they are. Not because they are bitter.



"We love animals.

That's why we love to kill them! It's not because we're bitter.

Honest."


GravatarI enjoyed playing trombone..


GravatarI offered G/Son apple juice or berry juice tonight and he said "Want apple." I imagine he'll be president in 33 years.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator

If you gave him the apple and he thanked you, he'll be a President Gore, fair, principled, intelligent.

If you gave him the apple, and he threw it down yelling about how it's so unfair to tax the rich and how the poor are lazy.... make him get better than Cs in college, please!


GravatarThird round.
Echidne


Cue Gillette Girl in the short skirt, carrying the sign...


GravatarHecate, Nonna knows what it takes to survive

This Nana keeps a few babas around.  Just in case


GravatarThe good news is that I get to spend the rest of the evening with you fine folks instead of getting physical contact with another human.
Troutski


INTJ?


GravatarYou sure I'm the one who needs to apologize?

Yeah, or at least explain what you're on about.


Gravatar ARTIST'S RENDERING OF INCOG


GravatarI wanna hurt some nurses.
.


GravatarThe good news is that I get to spend the rest of the evening with you fine folks instead of getting physical contact with another human.

We're so much more septic.


GravatarTroutski,

When are you going to go out with her?


GravatarYou're Incog - right?

No, he's Jeremiah Elias, an asshole from the 2004 election who was run off the blog for being an asshole then and he's an asshole now.


Gravatarbut Nonna saved some? Nonna is no dummy.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Nonna has been around a few years longer than mummy and daddy?


GravatarENFP and
F'DUP


GravatarNo, he's Jeremiah Elias, an asshole from the 2004 election who was run off the blog for being an asshole then and he's an asshole now.

Is this true, Elias?


GravatarThe entire album is really, really, really good.

Think I'm going to have to get that.

The album is called "The Reminder" by Feist. This is her solo debut. She has (and probably will again in the future) been part of Broken Social Scene but this album is all hers.
Bobby St. Chomsky

I'm buying this. Always looking for more good music...


GravatarINTJ?

Raises hand.


Gravatar" ARTIST'S RENDERING OF INCOG
Gomez "

That's going to stick.


GravatarOh, the usual troll drama for Saturday night, I see?
.


GravatarNo, he's Jeremiah Elias, an asshole from the 2004 election who was run off the blog for being an asshole then and he's an asshole now.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator


Easy to confuse him with the other one.


GravatarI played trumpet through my twenties (pit orchestras for extra dough) - easy. And the ladies liked my embrochure


Gravatardiciannove...


GravatarYou sure I'm the one who needs to apologize?

You sure as hell do, you miserable cocksucking scumbag prickfaced dildo-brained douchebag. In the past, I've been willing to treat you as just one of the visitors as long as you were merely making conversation, but you are a piece of shit troll. From now on, I shall just offer you a hearty FUCK YOU every time I see you here. Jesus H. Christ, you are annoying -- and worse yet, you intend to be annoying, you rat-fucking piss-dribbler.


GravatarINTJ?
Echidne


INTX....because I iz indecisive.....


GravatarI had fun playing the trumpet. Especially ejecting the spit out of this valve they put on there just for that purpose.


GravatarToonscribe | 04.13.08 - 12:13 am




STANDING OVATION!


GravatarYeah, or at least explain what you're on about.

Elias was here during the 2004 election as Jeremiah Elias and then, after having his ass handed to him, showed up as Satre for a while. Longed for the Dem party to get over "silly social issues like abortion so it could focus on real economic issues." Didn't appreciate being told that if you can't control your biological destiny you can't take advantage of economic opportunity. Then announced that he was moving to Greece, where his family was supposedly from and things were supposedly much, much better. He's as big a jerk now as he was then
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 04.11.08 - 10:33 pm | #


None of this is true. I never posted as these people. Never. It's a lie.


19- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


GravatarWell ... I was trying to go out with her two hours ago, unfortunately she was going out with me three hours ago.

I've been such a Luddite towards cell phones. I guess I had better actually carry mine and turn it on once in awhile.

She wants to fix me dinner at her house tomorrow so I can make it up to her.

I think she likes me.


Gravatar...............you rat-fucking piss-dribbler.
Toonscribe

Nice rant.


Gravatargot to go get some sleep, I think

later


GravatarNo, he's Jeremiah Elias, an asshole from the 2004 election who was run off the blog for being an asshole then and he's an asshole now.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator



20- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


GravatarI'm an INFP. The 21st century is hard on introverts.


GravatarShe wants to fix me dinner at her house tomorrow so I can make it up to her.

I think she likes me.



Go and bring flowers!


GravatarI see we are still plagued by Jeremiah Elias.

good grief.

everybody else doing OK ? we attended a football game today. decided to go, rather than watch it on espn


GravatarPeople enjoy hunting and shooting because it’s an important part of who they are. Not because they are bitter.

Gore and Carter can't bang the gong soon enough for me.


GravatarElias, why so bitter?


GravatarShe wants to fix me dinner at her house tomorrow so I can make it up to her.

I think she likes me.
Troutski


I would say you are correct.


GravatarARTIST'S RENDERING OF INCOG
Gomez


What the hallucenogenic fuck was THAT?


GravatarDoes drinking orange juice make you bitter?


GravatarMrs. Ibrahim, hanging in there.


Gravatar21- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


22- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


23- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


GravatarAlto sax is pretty easy if you ignore what they say about the actual notes.

C is C on any instrument, not E-flat. Otherwise, just blow the mofo.

(I got a sax from eBay a few months ago for $150 bucks and was sort of playing it within days. The third day is recorded here:
http://www.last.fm/music/Black+V...l+on+Li%C3% A8ge )


GravatarShe wants to fix me dinner at her house tomorrow so I can make it up to her.

I am ashamed to say that this makes perfect sense to me.

Yeah, she likes you. Bring some flowers.


GravatarWhat the hallucenogenic fuck was THAT?
Meanie-meanie, tickler person

I wasn't going to ask, but... what meanie-meanie said!


GravatarShe wants to fix me dinner at her house tomorrow

Bring a plant - trust me


GravatarDoes drinking orange juice make you bitter?
ellroon


Only if you buy the bad shit.


GravatarYou have to do it all in one day, you do know that, right Elias? If you want to be liegalistical about it.


GravatarHecate,

Diet
Classic
Zero

your choice.


GravatarElias, I forgive you for ignoring me.


GravatarBobby St. Chomsky,

Just downloaded the whole album.


GravatarWazzup?


Gravatarthe trumpet was the only instrument I ever tried to play. lugged it around for two years, but just couldn't get that spitting/raspberry move going.

my son, on the other hand, seems to enjoy giving raspberries.


GravatarYes! Plant genitals always put women in a forgiving mode. 2 dozen red rose genitals stat!


GravatarElias, why so bitter?
Little Boots


How long would you accept being called someone you're not?

24- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


Gravatarres

Diet. I am a fan of the classics!


GravatarI had fun playing the trumpet. Especially ejecting the spit out of this valve they put on there just for that purpose.
MP


That was really the only fun I ever got out of my trumpet. Then my brother "fixed" it, with a screwdriver in the valve...


GravatarOnly if you buy the bad shit.
flory

So not from the guy with the overcoat in the underpass at midnight, huh?


GravatarISFJ


GravatarShe wants to fix me dinner at her house tomorrow

Bring a plant - trust me


I wouldn't. What if she doesn't want to take care of one? Some flowers and perhaps a bottle of nice wine would be good.


GravatarYes! Plant genitals always put women in a forgiving mode. 2 dozen red rose genitals stat!

Somebody's been channeling Georgia O'Keefe.


GravatarIt's getting tiresome watching Elias parade his "virtue" around like a supermodel wearing the latest fashion from Milan.


Gravataroops - double Diet Cokes to Hecate


GravatarWhat the hallucenogenic fuck was THAT?
Meanie-meanie, tickler person


Klaus Nomi - the first relatively famous guy to die of AIDS.


Gravatarmy son, on the other hand, seems to enjoy giving raspberries.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari

Good! Let him watch C-Span!


Gravatar25- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


GravatarIt's getting tiresome watching Elias parade his "virtue" around like a supermodel wearing the latest fashion from Milan.
DJ

Ssshhhh. He's counting. Don't distract.


GravatarEchidne - you get more votes than me, but I vote plant.


GravatarAnd I'll bring a pony. That should make everything okay.


GravatarI actually kinda liked Incog a lot, but he was a pile of crazy sometimes. Elias, are you Incog?


GravatarSo Elias has proved 25 times over how completely banal he can be?


GravatarBobby St. Chomsky,

Just downloaded the whole album.
res ipsa loquitur


Hope you enjoy it as I have. By the way, it's a monster commercial success, and worth all the hoopla.


Gravatarsallyh

yay, hooray!
somebody asked me the other day what I meant by "hanging in there"

"optimism in a deeply pessimistic world" was all I could come up with.

saw a great football game today. Ornage and Blue. blue won!


GravatarKlaus Nomi - the first relatively famous guy to die of AIDS.
Gomez

Where did Rock Hudson fit in the lineup?


GravatarIncog went to Argentina with Mike! Was I the only one here that night???


GravatarI see we are still plagued by Jeremiah Elias.

Just because we share a similar name? If I were this Jeremiah, I'd admit it. I'm not a fraud. I am who I say I am.


25- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


GravatarI don't recall seeing that Klaus Nomi...thing...during last year's youtube wars. Woulda ended it all right there. Thermo-video-nuclear weapon.


Gravatargot to go get some sleep, I think

later
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher

Me, too. Love you guys (You know who you are).


Gravatar"The Wire" No one told me I had to pay attention - I got to starts it over.


GravatarRemember when trolls used to break Haloscan? Those were the days...
-


GravatarSsshhhh. He's counting. Don't distract.

He lost count -- he did 25 twice.


GravatarWhere did Rock Hudson fit in the lineup?
ellroon


Nomi - 83

Hudson - 85


GravatarI have to start "The Wire" from the beginning, too, Mr. Neff.


GravatarI broke haloscan and I'm not a troll.


GravatarRemember when trolls used to break Haloscan? Those were the days...
-
MisterX

There was someone obsessed with poop, too as I remember....


GravatarTroutski, my vote is flowers and wine.


Gravatar"The Wire" No one told me I had to pay attention - I got to starts it over.

I know. Somebody kept going on about "Scar". Took me a while to get what they were talking about.


GravatarI think I actually broke the whole site.


Gravataris there anything going on here that's not tedious, or should I go on to bed?


GravatarElias is not Incog. He might be H. Clinton or B. Obama, but he's not Incog.

All other things being equal, none of this matters.

It a wonderful war though, n'est-ce pas?


GravatarShot a duck in Scranton, just to watch him die.


Gravatarfuck off, Elias Troll. your concern is duly noted.


GravatarMe, too. Love you guys (You know who you are).
Duane V


I'm guessing he likes the song.


Gravatar♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Sallyh! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

Missin' ya!
.


GravatarMiss Anal Engine, you are most assuredly a troll, by any definition...
-


GravatarI downloaded the first season of The Wire. After watching some of it I decided these guys deserve to get paid. So I bought all four seasons. When the 5th comes out Ill buy it too. For now, I loves me some bit torrent.


GravatarNomi - 83

Hudson - 85
Gomez

Thank you, kind sir. I am much too weak to do the necessary googling....

/waves fingers feebly and then continues typing...


GravatarI actually kinda liked Incog a lot, but he was a pile of crazy sometimes. Elias, are you Incog?
Little Boots


I'm not Ingog. I'm Elias. I'm one person. I posted here under Elias only. I was a Nader supporter. Ask Holden.

I never posted here as anyone else. Ever.

27- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


GravatarBTW, TKK and I saw a trailer for the new Errol Morris doc about Abu Gharib tonight. The trailer alone sort of blew my mind. I think the movie is going to be huge (as far as docs go, anyway).


GravatarRemember when trolls used to break Haloscan? Those were the days...
-
MisterX


Indeed. they taught us all how to scroll. Some of us mebbe needs a refresher...


GravatarI assume you've all seen the dancing walrus then?
-


GravatarI'm not a fraud. I am who I say I am.

your concern is duly noted.


GravatarI wish it wasn't 4:3


GravatarElias is not Incog. He might be H. Clinton or B. Obama, but he's not Incog.

All other things being equal, none of this matters.


I'm going with Hilary. I can't deal with a Barack who dislikes Hecate. I just can't.


GravatarBTW, TKK and I saw a trailer for the new Errol Morris doc about Abu Gharib tonight. The trailer alone sort of blew my mind. I think the movie is going to be huge (as far as docs go, anyway).

Errol Morris is doing God's work. He sprang Randall Adams from death row. Everything he does henceforward is gravy.


Gravataris there anything going on here that's not tedious, or should I go on to bed?
theodoric of athens

Here's a bedtime story!
Georgie sez we don't torture (with illustrations).


GravatarSYSTEM OF A DOWN - HYNPOTIZE


GravatarSweet dreams, Moonbats. Sleep warm under heavy blankets while the cold winds blow.


GravatarI just miss not being able to do my smiley-face pictures with the sullen-faced pink trollie in the middle...
-


GravatarFor now, I loves me some bit torrent.
baba durag


Whereabouts? I don't have a viable bit torrent sight anymore and am seeking one.


GravatarI'm not a fraud. I am who I say I am.

THEY WERE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!!!!


Gravatarhardest to easiest? maybe
violin
trombone
clarinet
trumpet
alto sax
tenor sax


GravatarThin Blue Line and Philip Glass - CREEPY!!


Gravatar28- Hecate, I forgive you for falsely accusing me of being someone else.


GravatarFlowers, wine, and a pony it is. I'll let you know which works best. But on the other hand if she wants to cook for me after standing her up ... I still might be in for some sort of trouble.


GravatarErrol Morris is doing God's work.

Hey, you were briefly mentioned at a bar in NYC tonight.

Seems I have been mispronouncing your nym.


GravatarNo, I AM ELIAS!
-


Gravatar60,325 - I forgive all y'all for ignoring me and my kittehs, tonight.


.


GravatarI think that was red with Glass, not blue.


Gravatarhardest to easiest? maybe
violin
trombone
clarinet
trumpet
alto sax
tenor sax


Then:
triangle
washboard
electric guitar


GravatarA Swedish keyharp (nyckelharpa). Interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=P...feature=related

Anthony McCarthy found that and put it on our blog.


GravatarFunny elias, making an absolute frool of himself. Echidne had it right in the first place, that's the ironic thing. and now this 2-year-old's game-playing is just driving the point home that he's a stupid little punk, and has been since he was Jeremiah Elias.


GravatarI wish I was who I said I was.

Some serious number of bytes on the intertubes would thus be liberated for better use.

Going to bed now. Peace and all that shit.


GravatarHey, you were briefly mentioned at a bar in NYC tonight.

Seems I have been mispronouncing your nym.
res ipsa loquitur


Jeebus, my legend is growing.

It rhymes with Hymie.


GravatarFlowers, wine, and a pony it is. I'll let you know which works best. But on the other hand if she wants to cook for me after standing her up ... I still might be in for some sort of trouble.

Arsenic in the appetizer?


GravatarTroutski,

When I really like a man, I cook for him.

Get something pretty: white tulips, maybe.


GravatarPlease stop Elias.

Just let it go.


GravatarOh, now you've done it, ronjazz. Now the idiot will think he has to forgive YOU 70x7 times.


GravatarWhitney music box

http://www.coverpop.com/whitney/


GravatarNo, I AM ELIAS!
-
MisterX

*gasp*!!


GravatarJust let it go.
annie | Homepage | 04.13.08 - 12:32 am | #

why aren't you cheering him on? he's doing Bible stuff, isn't he?


GravatarSally, are things okay with you?


Gravatarit was fun today, another Orange and Blue Day. at least a third of the crowd was kids under 12, the stadium going full blast, students free and everybody else $5.

dr. phil was smart enough to sit with his kids (and Tom) on the alumni side, so the sun was on our backs when we finally got there. Tim and I got in on a 2-for1 coupon from the city-owned utility that came in this week's bill. last year that setting sun really killed you on the east (student) side, so the 10 yeard line, right next to the Gameday booth, was perfect.

the last rite of spring, a summer ahead, with the promise of fall football. grand and glorious Gators.


GravatarWhere does the hurdy gurdy fit in the scheme of hard-to-play instruments?
-


GravatarThat dancing walrus was amazing btw...


GravatarI am becoming impatient and fidgety with this teebee show


GravatarI'm not a fraud. I am who I say I am.

THEY WERE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!!!!
Gomez


We are the people our parents warned us about...


GravatarOh, now you've done it, ronjazz. Now the idiot will think he has to forgive YOU 70x7 times.
DJ | 04.13.08 - 12:32 am | #

Exactly. There used to be doubts that he was a simpleminded troll asshole. he is erasing those doubts.


Gravataroboe, bassoon, french horn are also difficult


GravatarWhere does the hurdy gurdy fit in the scheme of hard-to-play instruments?

Between kazoo and Theramin.


GravatarI'm not a fraud. I am who I say I am.

THEY WERE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!!!!
Gomez

We are the people our parents warned us about...
Meanie-meanie, tickler person

Just quote Pogo: We have met the enemy and he is us!


GravatarIt rhymes with Hymie.

I guess I have actually been mis-reading it. I thought it was Harry This.


GravatarNo one ever fucking forgives me 50 million fucking times.


GravatarHe's not doing "Bible stuff."

He needs to turn the other cheek.


GravatarI am becoming impatient and fidgety with this teebee show
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray


Then turn off the Chinese subtitles, and turn the sound back up...


GravatarBobby St. Chomsky: aqui - http://www.mininova.org/sub/544/added


Gravatarthe easiest instrument is the human voice


GravatarVarttina (Finnish folk music band, of a more modern type)

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=7...feature=related


GravatarHe needs to turn the other cheek.
annie | Homepage | 04.13.08 - 12:35 am | #

that's your job.


GravatarI guess I have actually been mis-reading it. I thought it was Harry This.



I still think it's Donkey Jesus, too.


GravatarToonscribe | 04.13.08 - 12:13 am


Are you taking lessons from NTodd?


GravatarWhere does the hurdy gurdy fit in the scheme of hard-to-play instruments?

Between kazoo and Theramin.
Husseim Doghimey (D-TX)

Ooo Theramin. The music played with waving the hands in the air? Midsommer Murders series has that as its theme music....

That or Theramin is the cough syrup and I have it all wrong...


GravatarJeffraham, got my phone number still?

Give me a call if you've got a minute. Or I can call you?


GravatarHarry,

First they (TKK, simels, Bklyn Grrl) all looked at me like I was an idiot when I said it. Then they all looked at each other as if to say, "What if we're the idiots and she's right?"

I don't think we really came to a resolution on that score. Well, at least I didn't.


Gravatarthe easiest instrument is the human voice
ErinPDX | 04.13.08 - 12:35 am | #

I take it you haven't seen american idol.


Gravatarthe easiest instrument is the human voice

Apparently you've never heard me sing.


Gravatarbaba durag, muchas gracias.


GravatarThat dancing walrus was amazing btw...
ellroon


Si.
But wuz it real?


GravatarAre you taking lessons from NTodd?

No. I have a second job giving swearing lessons to sailors. You should see me when I get really wound up.


GravatarThe music played with waving the hands in the air?

There's a great documentary about the Theramin and its inventor, called, I believe, "Theramin."

Everything you ever wanted to know about it. They actually gave Theramin recitals back in the 1930s, before the inventor was kidnapped back to his native Russia in order to build weapons systems for the commies.


GravatarTheremin? What are you CRAZY?
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GravatarJP, are your kitties actually fighting that you have to use the water bottle? Do you know if they fight when you are gone?


Gravatarde nada


GravatarFavorite pieces as a trumpet player: Rhapsody in Blue and Porgy and Bess: A Symphonic Picture.


GravatarFirst they (TKK, simels, Bklyn Grrl) all looked at me like I was an idiot when I said it. Then they all looked at each other as if to say, "What if we're the idiots and she's right?"

Fixed.


GravatarI'm going to say this once. Elias, I forgive you for this:

I was a Nader supporter.

But now you're traipsing down a path that won't do anything but distract from a Democratic presidency commencing in 2009. You're also pissing off a bunch of people here in the bargain. In short, you're doing the same god damned thing you did in 2000 and 2004. Your petty personal issues aside, what exactly do you think you're doing here? You want adult dialog, then stop acting like a petulant adolescent. I'm quite sure I'll get your usual diss, after which you will join annie, shoe, mimi, toby, luby, etc. in my personal greasemonkey phantom zone.

Why the fuck did I bother?


GravatarNo one ever fucking forgives me 50 million fucking times.
Gomez | 04.13.08 - 12:35 am | #


Cubs swept the Pirates; I forgive you for having such a shitty baseball team.


GravatarCubs swept the Pirates; I forgive you for having such a shitty baseball team.
Shared Humanity


We just took 2 from the Reds hee hee.


GravatarVarttina (Finnish folk music band, of a more modern type)

What are they singing about?


GravatarCubs swept the Pirates; I forgive you for having such a shitty baseball team.
Shared Humanity


I'd like to forgive the entire National League, in advance...


Gravatarthe hardest instrument I have ever tried to play was the violin. I mean to take it up seriously one of these days, because I live at Fiddler Ground Zero.

I can't get much out of a harmonica or an accordion, either. Pretty much everything else I've tried to play has worked out.

A few years ago I saw a guy playing one of these. I don't know whether it would be easier or harder than a hurdy-gurdy.


GravatarAlto sax is easier than tenor. Less air to move. Voice is prolly the hardest instrument. No where to hide.


GravatarOh boy. They were right.


Gravatarmy personal greasemonkey phantom zone.

OMG! They warned us about the black holes of the internets!


GravatarOkay - I'm bailing on "The Wire"


GravatarWe just took 2 from the Reds hee hee.

you bastards.


GravatarA few years ago I saw a guy playing one of these. I don't know whether it would be easier or harder than a hurdy-gurdy.

Saw a wounderful African musican named Toumani Diabete playing one of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kor...ra_(instrument)
in Boston recently. Damned if I know how he made musical notes come out of it, but he's a virtuoso.


GravatarI pawned my trumpet before I got on a plane in 1976, bought a new one ten years later - my daughter has it.


Gravatarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch? v=t...feature=related

This is Varttina with some "joiku" in it. It's the old technique of the Lapps in singing. The guy does it.

The song is all about being a beggar and having to keep on moving on without a home.


GravatarC is C on any instrument, not E-flat.

Kinda, but if you finger a C (ring finger left hand octave key optional) on an E flat alto sax and blow, and someone else (or yourself perhaps if your last name is Kirk) fingers a C (ring finger left hand octave key optional) on a B flat tenor sax and blow, and you strike the C key on a piano, we will hear three different pitches - a chord daresay, with a challenging shimmery dissonance.

Concert pitch and transposing instruments.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Tra...sing_instrument

Just another guild barrier.
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GravatarOkay - I'm bailing on "The Wire"

NOOOOO! Think what you're doing. It's the single most important show (after Battlestar Galactica) on the internets.


GravatarTime to find a pillow ...

xxx...


GravatarFavorite pieces as a trumpet player: Rhapsody in Blue and Porgy and Bess: A Symphonic Picture.
WalterNeff, now on blu-ray


Hovhaness: Prayer of St Gregory

(just a student ensemble in the clip, but they're a smile to listen to)


Gravatari don't know why i love you like i do


GravatarOh boy. They were right.

My gravatar inspired my nym.

Goodnight you wonderful people. Mrs. Dog-hiney and I are going to watch "Marty," the movie that launched Ernest Borgnine's career into the stratosphere.


GravatarBattlestar Galactica??? With Lorne Green?


GravatarHere's some interesting Norwegians: ROYKSOPP - "What Else Is There"...
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Gravatarkora is very kool. I played several times with Mamadou Diabate, a nephew of the great Toumani Diabate. Flamenco guitar goes very well with the kora.


GravatarOOOHHHH - I Forgot!!!

Bugler's Holiday!!!!!!!!! The best!


GravatarBattlestar Galactica??? With Lorne Green?

Sir, you go too far.


GravatarGood night, res. I looked up the lyrics of that song. It was about a guy going womanizing and about a leather whip. Not absolutely sure, but I think the leather whip was used to stop him from getting to the women in the other village. It's old Finnish and hard to figure out.


Gravatarbuenas noches, your dog-buttness


Gravatari don't know why i love you like i do


Gravatarsome "joiku" in it. It's the old technique of the Lapps in singing. The guy does it.

Sounds like Navajo singing....


GravatarSallyh: Give me a call if you've got a minute. Or I can call you?

You have sittenpretty's number? I'm at her place (hence no Skype rig).
.


Gravatarshit

i don't know why i love you like i do

ya never seem to want my romancin' the only time ya hold me is when we're dancin'


GravatarOkay - I'm bailing on "The Wire"


Oh my. I guess we can agree to disagree. I loved that show, even blogged about it.


GravatarNot Flight of the Bumblebee? I mean Night in Tunisia?
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GravatarJust another guild barrier.
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QuentinCompson, Clinging

one night i tried to explain this to Draco, with no luck.


GravatarI got your late night rock on post here: Laurie Anderson doing Only An Expert from her Homeland show. Catchit if you can - it's tremendous.

And if you're lucky, Mr. Anderson might wander out to play a bit in the background.


Gravataraiight...I'm going to go read for awhile before bed.

night all....


GravatarLove jammin to Night in Tunisia


Gravatarellroon: JP, are your kitties actually fighting that you have to use the water bottle? Do you know if they fight when you are gone?

Yeah, they do -- it's just that Curly's a wimp, and L.E. is sometimes rougher than he should be (making up for size in ferocity). I don't think they ever intentionally really hurt one another, but L.E. got Curly's eye a good 'un, a couple of weeks ago.
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Gravatarnobody else is digging on gnarls barkley?


GravatarHere's a folk song about whether the daughters-in-law are pregnant or not, as a village gossip topic. Veryvery fast singing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=1...feature=related


Gravatarbrass band funk from Paris


Gravatartheodoric -- Good to finally meetcha!
.


GravatarLove jammin to Night in Tunisia
ErinPDX


Dizzy style or gypsy style?


Gravataryeah, that was fun. too bad lunch hour flies like that. didn't get to talk to halfdan much at all.

maybe next time.


Gravatarnobody else is digging on gnarls barkley? mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari

Not in my time zone, though I admit that new tune of theirs is kinda catchy.


GravatarOy... fading fast.
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GravatarI don't think they ever intentionally really hurt one another, but L.E. got Curly's eye a good 'un, a couple of weeks ago.
.
Jeffra Ham

Ow! Get them goggles! And mittens! And a football mouth guard. Then they can rumpus.


GravatarDizzy style or gypsy style?
Salieri, duck killah

gotta go with Diz, but there are a lot of good versions


GravatarGrimethorpe Colliery Band - find them, download them


GravatarG'night, batses.


GravatarNight
http://youtube.com/watch? v=gIqyg...feature=related

Buncha kidz.
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GravatarG'night, sidhra.


Gravatarwell, I've finished my sleepytime tea. bonne nuit.


GravatarSallyh?
.


GravatarTwilight in Turkey - Raymond Scott


GravatarHoo.

Max, Dizzy, Bird, Bud and Mingus.

Nice quintet when you gotta buncha guys with only one name.


GravatarWalterNeff, how does 9/6 look to you?


Gravatargotta go with Diz, but there are a lot of good versions
ErinPDX


Cool. Diz was an O.G. world musician.


GravatarSeptember 6?


Gravatarfor a portland get together


GravatarHovhaness: Prayer of St Gregory

Not bad at all.
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GravatarCrazy


GravatarNot in my time zone, though I admit that new tune of theirs is kinda catchy.

I watched Alien on cable and am now watching Harry Potter.

Again.


GravatarI'm watching Aliens right now.


Gravatarnot NTodd lunch - EschaGreen is People?


GravatarNice quintet when you gotta buncha guys with only one name.

You ain't jivin'.
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Gravatarsallyh

my new bicycle is in the mail from Fountain Valley, California.

I am giddy with excitement.


GravatarWell, fuck.

I see Clinton was handing out "I'm not bitter" stickers today.

I hate her. And I'm going to be very bitter if she doesn't go the fuck away soon.


GravatarNTodd lunch is 5/18
noon fur sure


GravatarCrazy
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari


I've always liked the song, but that video is awesome.


GravatarChaka and Brecker playing Night in Tunisia
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ni8FQ_9uOtU


GravatarNTodd will give me a neck rub at lunch


GravatarThe Wire - I really want my money back


GravatarCrazy
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari


nice!


GravatarAnd I'm going to be very bitter if she doesn't go the fuck away soon.


I hope you're not, but if you must be bitter, cling to the gun stuff cause that's safer than the religion stuff.
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GravatarThe Wire - I really want my money back

You don't like The Wire?


Gravatar"The Wire" has amazingly good characters. It can take time to get in the groove though. And it's pretty raw in places.


GravatarI see Clinton was handing out "I'm not bitter" stickers today.

Girlfriend's got nuthin' else.


GravatarMrs. I

I like the violent femmes cover...


GravatarBobo at the Richmond Forum tonight.
Spouting his usual nonsense.


GravatarClinton is full of shit.

The end.


GravatarGirlfriend's got nuthin' else.
SteveLG


I think this is going to backfire on her.


GravatarTying the thread together: Crazy on Theremin


Gravatartaxes are done and I'm DFR

after filing the 1065s the K1s the 1040s, and all the other mess, I'm 25K poorer than I was yesterday


GravatarI think this is going to backfire on her.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive


Oh, yes.

When you ain't got nuthin' you got nuthin' to lose
You're invisible now you got no secrets to conceal
How does it feel?


GravatarGirlfriend's got nuthin' else.
SteveLG

I think this is going to backfire on her.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive


We wuz wondering what is so wrong about the "middle americans are bitter" thing?

Hell yes, many of them are, they've been lied to and led down the garden path, why not be bitter?


Or is everyday supposed to be Happy Day in Amerika?


Gravatarfrom the beginning, I hoped HRC wouldn't be the nominee, but not because of her...but because she's a get out the vote campaign for repuke assholes.

now, I have different reasons


Gravatarafter filing the 1065s the K1s the 1040s, and all the other mess, I'm 25K poorer than I was yesterday
::matthew


Ouch.

Mine were bad enough for me, but not the nightmare that made me afraid of doing them at all.


Gravatarafter filing the 1065s the K1s the 1040s, and all the other mess, I'm 25K poorer than I was yesterday
::matthew


Not unless you had to write a check, otherwise you never had it to begin with.


Gravatarhttp://youtube.com/watch? v=VKwa6...feature=related

Arturo Sandoval doing Night in T.


GravatarI didn't understand a word anyone said on The Wire, funny for a guy who got every joke in Gervais' The Office


GravatarNot unless you had to write a check, otherwise you never had it to begin with.

Barry from Alaska 01-20-09


check has been written, I'm talking on top of what was already paid


GravatarCrazy on Theremin
SteveLG


Where did he get that thing? Somebody was up late for many nights figuring out how to make that work.

Too cool.


GravatarOr is everyday supposed to be Happy Day in Amerika?

We are all to live in eager anticipation of the Clinton Restoration.

All will be well and all manner of things shall be well...


GravatarWe wuz wondering what is so wrong about the "middle americans are bitter" thing?

Hell yes, many of them are, they've been lied to and led down the garden path, why not be bitter?


I think they are quite bitter and I also think they have every reason to be bitter.

I also think it's time for Obama to give a great big speech on poverty in America.

He can point out how many people who most Americans think of as "middle class" are actually quietly filing for food stamps and frequenting food banks these days.


Gravatar"I didn't say it as well as I could have," Obama (D-Ill.) told a crowd in Muncie. Later, in an interview with a North Carolina newspaper, he said, "Obviously, if I worded things in a way that made people offended, I deeply regret that."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml? hpid=topnews

Smartest move he's made in 2008.
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GravatarI didn't understand a word anyone said on The Wire, funny for a guy who got every joke in Gervais' The Office

It takes a while to understand the dialect. The first time I watched the episodes from the first season I missed a lot of things.

Once I picked it up, I was amazed at the stuff all the nuance I'd missed.


Gravatarcheck has been written, I'm talking on top of what was already paid
::matthew


Not that DOES hurt.


GravatarOur fucking soldiers are on food stamps. If you ain't bitter you ain't paying attention.


GravatarFade...


Gravatarcheck has been written, I'm talking on top of what was already paid
::matthew


Look on the bright side- it appears you are making money.


GravatarJeffra Ham

Sweet dreams


GravatarOnce I picked it up, I was amazed at the stuff all the nuance I'd missed.
fourlegsgood


sorta like watching trainspotting


GravatarFade...

Jeffra Ham


Oh man, didn't know U was here.

Nice sleepers old man.


GravatarDid you see the article Vicki linked to earlier tonight?

Supposedly the Democrats' two Nobel Peace Prize winners are working on a strategy to send a message to Hillary.

Have no idea whether there's any basis in fact. Personally, I hope they do it.


Gravatarcheck has been written, I'm talking on top of what was already paid

Do *not* think about where it all goes.
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.c...id=555106& rfi=6
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GravatarOur fucking soldiers are on food stamps. If you ain't bitter you ain't paying attention.
baba durag


Exactly.

Let's see... many of these people have lost their jobs, their homes, their pensions and can look forward to crappy jobs at Walmart or their local KFC and they're supposed to be fucking happy about it?

While the people who make up Clinton and McCain's donor base have gotten rich sending their jobs overseas?

Not bitter? If I were one of those people I might have taken a hostage by now.


GravatarSupposedly the Democrats' two Nobel Peace Prize winners are working on a strategy to send a message to Hillary.

Wow.

I hope that's true.


Hey Barry, I dreamed about you the other night.


GravatarDo *not* think about where it all goes.
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.c....c...id=555106& rfi=6
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QuentinCompson


I paid for a few femtoseconds for the Iraq disaster


GravatarAlso I mailed your DFH t-shirt on Friday.


GravatarIt takes a while to understand the dialect.

Unfortunately, I am not a second chance sort of fellow. Next!



GravatarDo *not* think about where it all goes.

Without reading the link, didn't I see that 46% of every tax dollar goes to the military.

That would be about $11,500 Matthew just gave to Gen Petraeus, or enough to guard St.McCain at the open air market for about 1 minute while he buys sunglasses for $5.


GravatarHey Barry, I dreamed about you the other night.
fourlegsgood


no flirting


GravatarAlso I mailed your DFH t-shirt on Friday.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive


Aww, you is Angel.


GravatarUnfortunately, I am not a second chance sort of fellow. Next!

Ah, you are really missing out.


Gravatar46% of every tax dollar goes to the military

Every time I think about that I just choke, Barry. What a waste.


Gravatar
Hey Barry, I dreamed about you the other night.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive


I just knew once Tom posted my picture that would start happening.


GravatarI rarely return calls.


GravatarThat would be about $11,500 Matthew just gave to Gen Petraeus, or enough to guard St.McCain at the open air market for about 1 minute while he buys sunglasses for $5.

Barry from Alaska 01-20-09

But McBush gave back to the Iraqi economy, didn't he? Five rugs for 5 bucks or something? Or was that Graham?

Ignore the fact some of the shopkeepers then were murdered the day after as they drove north looking for work....


Gravatarno flirting

Heh. I dreamed I had become a pilot, but then I got to the airport and realized I hadn't taken lessons.


GravatarI just knew once Tom posted my picture that would start happening.

Oh, I missed that.


GravatarChaka and Brecker playing Night in Tunisia
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ni8FQ_9uOtU
ErinPDX


An old buddy 'o' mine had the guitar chair in her road band back in the whenevers. He was always better then me.

Chaka still makes me feel funny in mah drawers.


GravatarHeh. I dreamed I had become a pilot, but then I got to the airport and realized I hadn't taken lessons.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive


Are those required?

I always it was a "pick it up as you go" kinda thing.


GravatarOh, I missed that.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive


From Eschacon08 Far East Edition Hong Kong last week.


GravatarI think just about anyone can fly a 747-400...can't be that different from that 172 I did a few lessons on


GravatarAre those required?

I always it was a "pick it up as you go" kinda thing.


Well, I'll bet you started with little planes. In my dream my first time flying was going to be in this big old freight jet.


GravatarAn old buddy 'o' mine had the guitar chair in her road band back in the whenevers. He was always better then me.

Chaka still makes me feel funny in mah drawers.
Salieri, duck killah

cool
she gets me as well and i'm a girl


Gravatar'nuff peeps 'mout


GravatarI'm done - have a nice evening all.


Gravatarnight Steve


GravatarCan we talk seriously for a minute?


GravatarNo.


GravatarDenver is a nonstop mile high club.


Gravatarhasta la vista a todos


GravatarI think Obama is gonna really knock shit out of the park during the general election.

I look forward to getting America back, if only in my imagination.


GravatarSupposedly the Democrats' two Nobel Peace Prize winners are working on a strategy to send a message to Hillary.
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Supposedly two of the Democrats biggest icons of failure are going to annoy Hillary by assuming she gives a damn what they think.


GravatarSome passionate words from Jane Smiley:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ ja..._1_b_96374.html


GravatarHillary will still be trying to lobby superdelegates on January 20th during Obama's inauguration.


GravatarHillary is a bitter ender. That is just her nature. She will not give up and she will fight this all the way to the floor of the convention. All these calls for her to step aside are just motivation for her to keep on campaigning.


Gravatar"And what about the idea of the honest broker who goes to the two candidates and helps push one or the other of them off to the side?" Stahl asked.

"Yeah, kind of a modern Boss Tweed," Gore remarked.

"Except his name would be Al Gore," Stahl said.

"Well, I'm not applying for the job of broker," Gore replied, laughing.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/ 2...in3974389.shtml

That's Gore talking, who has also said he thinks Hillary should keep running. The artice referenced earlier does not quote Gore or Carter.
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GravatarHillary will still be trying to lobby superdelegates on January 20th during Obama's inauguration.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive


"Make Florida and Michigan" count signs in the inaugural audience?


Gravatarmissplaced my quotetie things.


GravatarOh. My.

From Jane Smiley:

" Yes, I know she will do anything to get elected. Yes, I know that she and Bill Clinton are corrupt to the core, and that I should have never expected anything better of her. But, please, any of you angry white women who still support this craven shill, don't mention it to me. "

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ ja..._1_b_96374.html


GravatarObama has inflicted incalculable damage on his campaign with his ill advised, moronic "bitter people who turn to God and guns" statements. He is well on the way to being "McGovernized" this fall by the Republican Party. He will never recover from this misstep. It is fatal


GravatarMake Florida and Michigan" count signs in the inaugural audience?

Yeah, pretty much.


GravatarI think Obama is gonna really knock shit out of the park during the general election.

I look forward to getting America back, if only in my imagination.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari | 04.13.08 - 1:43 am


I'm going to enjoy the next 4 years of batshit crazy imaginary things the never right wing blogs will pull out of their asses.


GravatarLet me make another prediction.

auggiesback and other assorted trolls will still be blabbering on about how Obama is going to get trounced on the day of the inauguration as well.


GravatarI think Obama is gonna really knock shit out of the park during the general election.

I think so, too. I live in a mill town that has been gentrified but is still a place where people talk about going out to the woods/water to work for a season. A place with the kind of real diners that tweety seems so clueless about.

Buncha fat, tough, white rednecks are going to vote for the skinny black man.
You can take that to the bank.


Gravatarauggiesback and other assorted trolls will still be blabbering on about how Obama is going to get trounced on the day of the inauguration as well.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive | Homepage | 04.13.08 - 1:58 am


And that the incoming administration will be indicting Ambassador Wilson and wife annnnnnnnnnnny day now.


GravatarI'm going to enjoy the next 4 years of batshit crazy imaginary things the never right wing blogs will pull out of their asses.
Tom - 大肚腩


I know this,... none of us will be allowed to substitute orange juice for coffee.


GravatarLet me make another prediction.

auggiesback and other assorted trolls will still be blabbering on about how Obama is going to get trounced on the day of the inauguration as well.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive

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Yeah, we heard the same crap when it was Kerry running too. How did that work out for you?


GravatarThat was quite a head of steam to waste on a poor word choice like "shill".
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Gravatarauggiesback and other assorted trolls will still be blabbering on about how Obama is going to get trounced on the day of the inauguration as well.

Then they'll move on to explaining how the unitary Executive was actually a really really bad idea that needs to be challenged immediately and by Jan 30th be declaring his Presidency a complete and utter obvious failure.


GravatarI know this,... none of us will be allowed to substitute orange juice for coffee.

Barry from Alaska 01-20-09 | Homepage | 04.13.08 - 1:59 am


Bet that McCain doesn't finish every cup of coffee put in front of him at every flesh pressing event. How rude is that?


GravatarBuncha fat, tough, white rednecks are going to vote for the skinny black man.
You can take that to the bank.
Salieri, duck killah


Glad to hear that.

Quentin, would you prefer "pretentious fucking bitch who thinks she's owed the presidency?"


GravatarBet that McCain doesn't finish every cup of coffee put in front of him at every flesh pressing event. How rude is that?
Tom - 大肚腩


That bus would be stopping at every truck stop to dump the honey bucket if he did.


GravatarThen they'll move on to explaining how the unitary Executive was actually a really really bad idea that needs to be challenged immediately and by Jan 30th be declaring his Presidency a complete and utter obvious failure>

Then they'll move on to trying to impeach Obama for being a "secret muslim"


Gravatarlet's see... how did 2006 work out for the trolls?

How have the special Congressional elections gone for the trolls? Couldn't even replace Hastert's seat.


GravatarBet that McCain doesn't finish every cup of coffee put in front of him at every flesh pressing event. How rude is that?
Tom - 大肚腩


That whole thing was bullshit.

Tweety is just pissed because Obama ate his lunch on the show last week.


Fact is, official Washington can't deal with a public servant who actually tells the truth.


GravatarThen they'll move on to trying to impeach Obama for being a "secret muslim"
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive | Homepage | 04.13.08 - 2:03 am


"secret muslim" is the guy who goes to a Christian church but has trash declaring him a muslim flying about the internet faster than shit out of Karl Rove's mouth.


Gravatarlet's see... how did 2006 work out for the trolls?

If they loved that I can't WAIT for them to see the congressional elections in 2008.



GravatarHe is well on the way to being "McGovernized" this fall by the Republican Party

FUCK the Republican party.


GravatarObama stated the truth, he has nothing but contempt for middle class America


Gravatarlet's see... how did 2006 work out for the trolls?

How have the special Congressional elections gone for the trolls? Couldn't even replace Hastert's seat.
Tom - 大肚腩
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Yeah, and Bush has made those little punks his bitches ever since....as if you clowns haven't been howling about it for the past two years.


Gravatar"secret muslim" is the guy who goes to a Christian church but has trash declaring him a muslim flying about the internet faster than shit out of Karl Rove's mouth.

You know how I know that there is no god?


Because Karl Rove has not been smoten into a pile of reeking dust yet.


GravatarYeah, and Bush has made those little punks his bitches ever since....as if you clowns haven't been howling about it for the past two years.
assorted trolls


Errr... it was the newbie GOPer who got booed by his own party during his first House speech, just this week as I recall.


GravatarFact is, official Washington can't deal with a public servant who actually tells the truth.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive | Homepage | 04.13.08 - 2:05 am


Haven't seen a damn column inch in either the WaPo or NYTimes on the UK judges opinion to re-open the BAE-Saudi (Prince Bandar Bush) corrpution investigation.


GravatarBush is so unpopular that not even Pope Ratzo will eat dinner with him.


Gravatarsmoten?


GravatarBack to poke the sordid troll.

Bush got booed at the Nationals game. His temper tantrum over his Colombia bill resulted in it getting shut down by Nancy Pelosi. The Republican Party is broke, and can't get its' own members to donate to it.

You're being routed, dumbfuck.

Suck.on.it.punk!


GravatarHaven't seen a damn column inch in either the WaPo or NYTimes on the UK judges opinion to re-open the BAE-Saudi (Prince Bandar Bush) corrpution investigation.

Wow. Didn't hear about THAT here.


GravatarYeah, and Bush has made those little punks his bitches ever since....as if you clowns haven't been howling about it for the past two years.
assorted trolls | 04.13.08 - 2:06 am


Ummmm... how's that retroactive immunity going for the telcos?

Having to veto SCHIP? ouch! GDumbya & the party of Scrooges. No wonder so many Republicans have quit in the last year.(or maybe they're just getting out before they tap on the wrong stall.)


Gravatarsmoten?
JeffCO


YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANS!!!


GravatarBecause Karl Rove has not been smoten into a pile of reeking dust yet.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive | Homepage | 04.13.08 - 2:07 am | # [kill]​


He's still punishing us for giving the world Linkin Park.


Gravatar No wonder so many Republicans have quit in the last year.(or maybe they're just getting out before they tap on the wrong stall.)

So sad. Really it is.



GravatarI'm watching Grind House. Not Tarantino's strongest work. I am enjoying the scenes inside the Texas Chili Parlor...


GravatarIn a fittingly symbolic move, Chuck Heston will be named by GOP strategists to lead the party loyalists during their 40 years in exile after Bush so thoroughly destroyed them.


GravatarHe's still punishing us for giving the world Linkin Park.

That's probably true.

THough I think Kenny G is a bigger sin.


Gravatar
Wow. Didn't hear about THAT here.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive | Homepage | 04.13.08 - 2:12 am


Guardian had a wonderful article about Prince Bandar Bush admitting to taking a billion pounds and an Airbus from BAE, but saw nothing wrong with that sort of thing


GravatarBush is so unpopular that not even Pope Ratzo will eat dinner with him.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive


The Pope is gonna head to San Angelo to get some "homeless" kids for the Jesuit's instead.


GravatarIn a fittingly symbolic move, Chuck Heston will be named by GOP strategists to lead the party loyalists during their 40 years in exile after Bush so thoroughly destroyed them.

I've taken to asking every republican I know if they like camping.


GravatarYOU KNOW WHAT I MEANS!!!

"In Philly, I was smoten with one sexy, witty, whipsmart Atriot after another."


GravatarGuardian had a wonderful article about Prince Bandar Bush admitting to taking a billion pounds and an Airbus from BAE, but saw nothing wrong with that sort of thing

Oh, well.

It's only a beeeelion pounds.

Jesus fuck.


Gravatar
THough I think Kenny G is a bigger sin.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive | Homepage | 04.13.08 - 2:14 am


he's coming to town. I can hardly wait...

actually saw the news this morning that Elton John is coming to town. across town the same day will be the Click Five.


GravatarI've taken to asking every republican I know if they like camping.
fourlegsgood


heh. I may steal that.

nowmout.


Gravatar"In Philly, I was smoten with one sexy, witty, whipsmart Atriot after another."
JeffCO



NO FLIRTING


Gravatar"In Philly, I was smoten with one sexy, witty, whipsmart Atriot after another."
JeffCO | 04.13.08 - 2:16 am | #


And one centaur.


Gravataractually saw the news this morning that Elton John is coming to town.

You should go see him wearing a "Fuck Yeah I'm a sexist!! t-shirt.


Gravatarheh. I may steal that.

Steal away.


GravatarNO FLIRTING -Barry from Alaska

Thanks to you, I locked lips with the lovely Stella.


GravatarJust stopping by to ask - does this Speedo LZR Racer swimsuit make me look fat?


Gravatari bet elton john sucks now.


GravatarBy trying to diagnose what is wrong with the Rust Belt middle class, Obama reveals a shockingly cartoonish understanding of white people - in its own way as ignorant as Reverend Wright’s clownish demonizations of whites. This is an Obama out of touch with regular folks, speaking in disparaging tones about people who take their religion seriously or have an abiding love of the outdoors represented by their owning a firearm (hunting being a second religion in Pennsylvania). It was a dumbfounding moment, showing a candidate who views about half of America as victims of their own bitter frustrations.
Obama later issued a “clarifying statement” after his campaign tried to plead ignorance about what he said:
“Senator Obama has said many times in this campaign that Americans are understandably upset with their leaders in Washington for saying anything to win elections while failing to stand up to the special interests and fight for an economic agenda that will bring jobs and opportunity back to struggling communities. And if John McCain wants a debate about who’s out of touch with the American people, we can start by talking about the tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans that he once said offended his conscience but now wants to make permanent,”
Trying to shift the focus to McCain is a weak move. He did not address what has everyone up in arms - the disconnect between Obama on the stump who would never denigrate working people as he did, and the Obama talking to liberal elitists - apparently like himself - explaining his understanding of how the rubes live and what’s wrong with them.
This revelation has a chance to do more damage to his candidacy than 10 Reverend Wrights. It is doubtful that Obama could find a venue to give a speech trying to explain the naked elitism he revealed in just a few sentences to a group of mega rich contributors. Even if he did give a speech, what could he say? Just about anything he came up with would sound even more condescending.


GravatarYou should go see him wearing a "Fuck Yeah I'm a sexist!! t-shirt.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive


Aren't Gays mysogonistic? (sp)

I mean, they don't like women?


Or is there more to this language thing than I'm aware of?


GravatarAnd one centaur.

What part of "sexy, witty, whipsmart" did not cover centaurs?


Gravatarhey troll, hes not earl anthony either. and he likes orange juice.


GravatarOh, well.

It's only a beeeelion pounds.

Jesus fuck.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive | Homepage | 04.13.08 - 2:16 am


Yeah. The investigation was deep sixed by Blair on national security grounds. The top judges said that was bullshit.

The politicians, both Labour and Tory though not LibDem, are trying to pass the law that says national security is what politicians say it is and judges need to shut the fuck up.

national security theater like patriotism theater are the last refuges of scoundrels.


Gravatari bet elton john sucks now.

Why?


Gravatarmost gays i know seem to like women. not sexually, but as friends.


GravatarSteal away.

Into the night? You know it ain't right.


Gravatari think few pop musicians age well.


GravatarI am now a pro-gun churchgoer.

Really.


GravatarThe politicians, both Labour and Tory though not LibDem, are trying to pass the law that says national security is what politicians say it is and judges need to shut the fuck up.

national security theater like patriotism theater are the last refuges of scoundrels.


They've been studying what the republicans have gotten away with here.


Gravatarmost gays i know seem to like women. not sexually, but as friends.
pretzelattack


I saw "When Harry Met Sally", and you can't have it both ways


Gravatarthey keep trying to act as if they were still 20 something.


Gravatarhey troll, hes not earl anthony either. and he likes orange juice.
pretzelattack | 04.13.08 - 2:21 am


And he's had more contact with real unscreened people in the last week than GDumbya has in 7+ years of presidency.


GravatarWhat part of "sexy, witty, whipsmart" did not cover centaurs?

Ummmm.

I dunno. I don't consider myself (or most centaurs) particularly sexy.

Hey, I wonder if a patronus charm would get rid of Clinton? I'd be willing to learn to conjure one.


GravatarI saw the youtube of Obama talking to people in Terre Haute, Indiana, explaining about the bitter middle class, and by God he had those people on their feet and cheering. I was awestruck. If he can get Terre freakin' Haute on their feet for him, a black Democrat from Chicago, well hell, there's nothing can stop him.

Amazing. Terre freakin' Haute on their feet and cheering for Barack Obama.




GravatarThe 'pukes think they can reanimate the corpse of Nixon's southern strategy. Good luck. Archie Bunker is dead. Lou Dobbs is dead, he's just too stupid to lay down.


Gravatarmaybe the republicans will develop a fake grass roots group of people that hate orange juice and love bowling -- hi my name is delbert smoot, and im a regular type person, and obama seems irregular to me. he just doesnt bowl right.


Gravatari think few pop musicians age well.

I saw him live at Dodger Stadium in '74. That's the way I'll always remember him. I didn't even like him before I saw him -- I just wanted to be with the woman I was with that night.


Gravatar"In Philly, I was whipped smartly by one sexy, witty, smokin' Atriot after another."

FYT...


GravatarAnd he's had more contact with real unscreened people in the last week than GDumbya has in 7+ years of presidency.
Tom - 大肚腩


What???

No freaking loyalty oaths?

That's downright un-Amerikan!


GravatarMrs. Clinton suggested that Mr. Obama saw religious commitment, hunting and concern about immigration as emotional responses to economic strain rather than as deeply embedded values.

“I grew up in a church-going family, a family that believed in the importance of living out and expressing our faith,” she said at a rally in Indianapolis. “The people of faith I know don’t ‘cling to’ religion because they’re bitter. People embrace faith not because they are materially poor, but because they are spiritually rich.”...

--snip--

“It could mean he’s rendered himself unelectable,” Mr. Saunders said. “This is a perfect example of why Democrats lose elections.”


Gravatarmust admit i never saw when harry met sally.


Gravatar"In Philly, I was whipped smartly by one sexy, witty, smokin' Atriot after another."

FYT...
dave™© | Homepage | 04.13.08 - 2:26 a


Sadly that didn't happen at Eschacon Far East '08.


GravatarIt occurs to me that Elton John has been rich as shit for a really long time too.


GravatarI dunno. I don't consider myself (or most centaurs) particularly sexy.

Right said, Fred, but presumably some do or how would we ever get little centaurs?


Gravataryeah, but maybe he needs money now. i cringe when the rolling stones sing "i cant get no satisfaction". its hard to be a teen nihilist when your 60.


Gravatar“It could mean he’s rendered himself unelectable,” Mr. Saunders said. “This is a perfect example of why Democrats lose elections.”

Never mind that he's won the primaries.

WHy do the Clintons hate democracy?


GravatarIt occurs to me that Elton John has been rich as shit for a really long time too.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive


And he's only a few years older than me.

I gusss I should have paid more attention during piano lessons in 4th grade.


Gravataryeah, but maybe he needs money now. i cringe when the rolling stones sing "i cant get no satisfaction". its hard to be a teen nihilist when your 60.
pretzelattack | 04.13.08 - 2:29 am


Yeah, but other things come in to play at 60 to keep ya from gettin' "satisfaction"


GravatarRight said, Fred, but presumably some do or how would we ever get little centaurs?

Duty!!!

We close our eyes and think of England.


GravatarYeah, but other things come in to play at 60 to keep ya from gettin' "satisfaction"
Tom - 大肚腩 | Homepage | 04.13.08 - 2:30 am | #

in a way, it reminds me of athletes that cant let go. like muhammed ali fighting one more time, or michael jordan that last year.


GravatarQuentin you left out a line from that CBS/Gore piece.

"Well, I'm not applying for the job of broker," Gore replied, laughing.



He's not ruling it out, but he says he already has a job, as he puts it, "P.R." agent for the planet.



GravatarAnd he's only a few years older than me.

I gusss I should have paid more attention during piano lessons in 4th grade.


I can think of a lot of things I should have paid more attention to back in the day.


GravatarGov. Edward G. Rendell of Pennsylvania, who is Mrs. Clinton’s most prominent supporter in that state, said Mr. Obama should not have implied that rural voters were clinging to their guns as a way of dealing with their frustrations.

“People in rural Pennsylvania don’t turn to guns and religion as an escape,” Mr. Rendell said. “Hunting and sportsmanship are long-established traditions here, and people of faith founded the commonwealth and continue to live here. What the senator has done is essentially misread what is actually happening in Pennsylvania.”


GravatarHaloscan is making me bitter.


GravatarNever mind that he's won the primaries.

WHy do the Clintons hate democracy?
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive | Homepage | 04.13.08 - 2:30 am


I don't think it's the Clintons that hate democracy, since it wasn't Clinton saying that would render him unelectable.

Just some random it looks like that the NY Times (or wire service) found in Indianapolis.

and let's face it when the shit starts to hit the fans the Republican playbook is God, guns, and gays.


GravatarSadly that didn't happen at Eschacon Far East '08.
Tom - 大肚腩


Yes, but on the other hand, neither of us were seduced by Grendel's mother.


Gravatareltons johns best years came when he was paired with bernie taupin. they split up for awhile--are the collaborating again?


GravatarWe close our eyes and think of England.

Now that's a damn shame. Besides, I would have thought the rallying cry would be "Remember the Mane!"


GravatarBTW, if you're in California, the SPCA is mounting a campaign in support of an anti-dog fighting measure in the state legislature.


GravatarQuentin you left out a line from that CBS/Gore piece.

"Well, I'm not applying for the job of broker," Gore replied, laughing.


Quentin is "clinging" to the idea that Clinton will get the nomination.

Clinton has given up on the idea of actually winning the primaries. But she doesn't care- she thinks she knows better than the rest of us and is hell bent of imposing her will on the rest of us.


GravatarBesides, I would have thought the rallying cry would be "Remember the Mane!"
JeffCO


Mane?

Did a horse or lion get a haircut?

Man, leave for a minute and ya miss so much in the MAINEstream


Gravataryeah speaking of not letting go, clinton is a prime example.


Gravatarare the collaborating again?

For some time now.

I saw Elton about ten years ago - had to go at the last minute with a friend's husband who couldn't drive at the time. I really wasn't looking forward to it, but I was pleasantly surprised.


Gravatar
Never mind that he's won the primaries.


Or that this is only the latest in a long line of long forgotten things that were going to "bury Obama."


Gravatarand let's face it when the shit starts to hit the fans the Republican playbook is God, guns, and gays.

You gotta love it when a man who owns 8 houses, is married to an heiress and has been a sitting senator since dust to call the black dude an "elistist."

I don't think that gun is going to hunt.


GravatarGlad to see some hardy folks still at it ...


GravatarBesides, I would have thought the rallying cry would be "Remember the Mane!"
JeffCO


Can't speak for other centaurs.

Barry, I still have quite a respectable mane.

No worries.


GravatarAlmost forgot - I didn't have my camera, but I saw this happening earlier today...


GravatarGlad to see some hardy folks still at it ...
Sinfonian, too wired to sleep | Homepage | 04.13.08 - 2:36 am | #

posting till we drop!!


GravatarYou gotta love it when a man who owns 8 houses, is married to an heiress and has been a sitting senator since dust to call the black dude an "elistist."

I don't think that gun is going to hunt.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive | Homepage | 04.13.08 - 2:36 am


So after getting handed his ass by either Obama or Hillary, does McCain give up his Senate seat and retire (and then his wife divorces him as a philandering has-been).


GravatarI really tried to be an alcoholic. I just couldn't do it. Serious.


GravatarDid a horse or lion get a haircut?

When estrous time rolls around they refer to it as centaurl heating.


GravatarOr that this is only the latest in a long line of long forgotten things that were going to "bury Obama."

I hope he uses this as an excuse to give a major speech on poverty issues.

Someone here said a few months ago (I think it was pie) "I don't care about poverty issues."

I was quite literally shocked. (this was the day after Edwards withdrew)


Gravatar
Barry, I still have quite a respectable mane.


It's twue, it's twue!


GravatarBitter? I'm more bitter than a million frozen broccoli farts from 3 trilion hungryman MREs.


GravatarI dunno. I don't consider myself (or most centaurs) particularly sexy.

In a word, balderdash.


GravatarNothing like Southern Culture on the Skids.


Gravatarmy main worry about President Obama is that he is going to be too forgiving of republican excesses. it's an admirable character trait, but it just doesnt work with extremists.


GravatarSo after getting handed his ass by either Obama or Hillary, does McCain give up his Senate seat and retire (and then his wife divorces him as a philandering has-been).

If she does I hope she publicly calls him a little dicked, balding fuckwit.

Oh, and I meant to say "that DOG won't hunt"


GravatarWhat's the good word, Sinfonian?


GravatarBarry, I still have quite a respectable mane.

No worries.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive


Well now thats a huge relief.

Worried about clippers gone amok at Eschacon, {{shudders}}.


GravatarI'm so bitter I'll single-handedly alleviate the hops shortage.


GravatarI really wasn't looking forward to it, but I was pleasantly surprised.

When I saw him, one of the things that impressed me the most was that he was really there with (and for) his audience. He wasn't just watching the clock and doing his time onstage.


GravatarThe Coast Guard dispatched two of its 41-foot utility boats about 5:18 p.m., joining three nearby vessels that sailed over to help after flames and smoke were spotted pouring from the 43-foot pleasure yacht named No Worries.

I'll take "Misnomers" for $400, Alex.


GravatarUh ohs!

I haz crab walking kittehs.


GravatarNever mind - I see it's "balderdash!"


GravatarErrr... it was the newbie GOPer who got booed by his own party during his first House speech, just this week as I recall.

Mmm no new goopers in many moons iirc. The member might be Rep. Speiers who replaced Tom Lantos - her maiden speech told truths about Iraq that the Rs couldn't handle.

http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/1...by-republicans/

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GravatarNothing like Southern Culture on the Skids.

I love their version of "Merry Christmas, Baby".

It's been on my Xmas CD two years running... right after Mann and Penn's "It's Christmastime".


GravatarDamn, the frogs are having a grand time tonight in the pond. I'm going to need ear plugs.


GravatarI'm so bitter I'll single-handedly alleviate the hops shortage.

oh noes!!


GravatarWhat's the good word, Sinfonian?
JeffCO


I think it's "balderdash."

Actually, we've had two great concerts the last two nights, and one to go tomorrow. By Monday I should be completely drained of energy for the foreseeable future.


Gravatari remember reading somewhere that frogs worldwide were decreasing. seems like they are making a bit of a comeback.


Gravatar
In a word, balderdash.


Whoa!  You kiss your children with that mouth???


GravatarIn a word, balderdash.

U live in Florida, what the hell do you noes?


GravatarSCOTS is playing the Tractor in Seattle next Saturday. That will be far out.

Bring your banana puddin'.


Gravatarhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/.../ bae.armstrade3

:::Yesterday's summary described reports of Bandar going to see Jonathan Powell, Blair's chief of staff. He is said to have told him and the British ambassador, Sherard Cowper-Cowles, that he would ensure Saudi intelligence links were cut unless he and his family were kept out of the case.

Bandar then flew to Paris and engaged in ostentatious negotiations with the French to buy a new batch of fighter jets - the contract BAE itself was after.

As the judge pointed out yesterday, Bandar was suspected of complicity with BAE, the target of the investigation.

He admits he received from BAE a present of a new Airbus commercial airliner, and payments totalling £1bn into his US account, although he says they were not improper.:::


GravatarMaddie is in the dog house.

She knocked one of my nice martini glasses off the counter earlier.

bad kitteh


GravatarSomeone here said a few months ago (I think it was pie) "I don't care about poverty issues."


Some people get really stuck on the war.

Not saying that was pie or that pie does etc, just sayin.
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GravatarU live in Florida, what the hell do you noes?
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive


Just don't sell yourself short, is all.


GravatarThe blue heron eats at least a dozen frogs and a couple of catfish everyday.


GravatarI haz crab walking kittehs.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive


Next iz "Attackz!"


GravatarI haz crab walking kittehs.

We should have seen that pair of ragged claws scuttling across the floors with grace and ease.


GravatarAwright, it's "try, try again" time in the sleep department.

Hope I'm not back for awhile.


Gravatarbad kitteh
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive


Martoonies?

Oh dear.


GravatarBandar going to see Jonathan Powell, Blair's chief of staff. He is said to have told him and the British ambassador, Sherard Cowper-Cowles, that he would ensure Saudi intelligence links were cut unless he and his family were kept out of the case.

That's fucking unbelievable.


GravatarMarz Attackz!


Gravatarone of the things that impressed me the most was that he was really there with (and for) his audience. He wasn't just watching the clock and doing his time onstage.

IIRC, he did about two-and-a-half hours, not counting the intermission. No opening act.

I really did want to see him when he was doing that long stretch in Vegas, but $400 for two in the cheap seats gave me pause...


GravatarNext iz "Attackz!"

Happily they iz chasing each other and not me.


Gravatari remember reading somewhere that frogs worldwide were decreasing. seems like they are making a bit of a comeback.

The public is ribbeted.


GravatarMarz Attackz!
Sinfonian, too wired to sleep


I'm yodeling already.


GravatarHops are pretty easy to grow. Fins? Not so much.


GravatarThat's fucking unbelievable.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive


Oh, what's a little diplomatic blackmail between friends?


Gravatar[slides ambien-spiked cocktail to Sinfonian]


GravatarMaddie is in the dog house.



She knocked one of my nice martini glasses off the counter earlier.

Kitteh intervention?


GravatarOh, what's a little diplomatic blackmail between friends?

The man was already rich as shit, and yet he's getting billion dollar bribes?



GravatarA barn owl flew off with the neighbor's cat the other night while the family watched through the window. Mom said the kids were screaming then the dad lectured them about the food chain. Thoughtful guy.


Gravatar[slides ambien-spiked cocktail to Sinfonian]
racymind


Hey, you! I almost called you earlier but was afraid you might not be working ...


Gravatarfrogs are apparently more sensitive to some kinds of pollution. maybe this means things are going better on that front, but it's hard to believe. it certainly isnt because of anything bush and the republicans have done.


Gravatar
That's fucking unbelievable.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive | Homepage | 04.13.08 - 2:47 am


And this is the trusted confidant that GDumbya proudly laid out the top secret Iraq Invasion plans before hand.


GravatarA barn owl flew off with the neighbor's cat the other night while the family watched through the window. Mom said the kids were screaming then the dad lectured them about the food chain. Thoughtful guy.
Troutski


Those kids are gonna become loggers just to piss off the owls, you watch.


GravatarKitteh intervention?

More like kitteh insisting on getting up on the kitchen counter when I am trying to cook.

Very annoying.


GravatarThe public is ribbeted.

I coulda toad ya that.




GravatarSupport the troops. Kneecap a Republican.


I want a bumper sticker that says that.


[the fish are nibbling the algae growing on my hull. it sounds like the polyestermites are eating my home]


GravatarI almost called you earlier but was afraid you might not be working ...
Sinfonian, too wired to sleep


Nah, it's my off week, 'cept for tomorrow night to payoff Eschacon week shift swaps


GravatarMore like kitteh insisting on getting up on the kitchen counter when I am trying to cook.

Very annoying.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive


Not allowed, nope, no way.


Gravatari hate the cartoon narratives that excuse this kind of behavior from our allies "the saudis are our friends! they stand foursquare with us in the battle against islamofascism!" etc etc.


GravatarA barn owl flew off with the neighbor's cat the other night while the family watched through the window. Mom said the kids were screaming then the dad lectured them about the food chain. Thoughtful guy.

Ack.

We have owls around here. I used to always worry about Maxx.


GravatarThoughtful guy.
Troutski


Really.


GravatarI never understood a single word he said
But I helped him a-drink his wine


GravatarThe public is ribbeted.

I coulda toad ya that.



SteveLG


That's it. I was looking for the right wart but I couldn't jump on it in time.


GravatarThe public is ribbeted.

I coulda toad ya that.


wart are u trying to say?


GravatarAnd this is the trusted confidant that GDumbya proudly laid out the top secret Iraq Invasion plans before hand.

Oh, of course.


GravatarNah, it's my off week, 'cept for tomorrow night to payoff Eschacon week shift swaps
racymind


So you're just up late for the sheer entertainment value of it?


Gravatartoo late with the wart pun. curses foiled again. i better hop to it next time.


GravatarOwls and coyotes are really hard on the small furries around here. My alpha collie used to keep a tight watch on the hood, but she's gone now.


GravatarWhat was I thinking about "allowed" with cats and all.

Hee, I was getting a room ready for a guest from Holland today, had a baby fence up in the door to keep the critters out.

Magoo just hopped it like nothing, "Watcha doing Dad?"

Take up food dishes at night to stop Hidey from eating her weight in food every day, and find em empty the next day.

I guess "allowed" with me and critters is a guy just wishing.


GravatarYou late-nighters might appreciate my persistence ... I have two first dates scheduled for today (Sunday), one for lunch and one for dinner ... and on The Other Woman's birthday, no less.

I'm rather proud of myself.


Gravatar
That's it. I was looking for the right wart but I couldn't jump on it in time.


Not another peeper out of you.


GravatarAnd he always had some mighty fine wine.


GravatarThat dad sounds like a swell guy - nothing more reassuring to kids than knowing they could get eaten by something bigger than themselves at any moment.


GravatarSo you're just up late for the sheer entertainment value of it?
Sinfonian, too wired to sleep


Well, that and the fact that my rhythm has shifted back to nightshift


GravatarA barn owl flew off with the neighbor's cat the other night

That happened to my kitten when I was 17. I can still see the look on her face.

God damn it.


Gravatarthat food chain guy sounds like a republican.


GravatarActually, given my busy schedule, I'd better enjoy my five hours of shut-eye. The Ambien cocktail from racy should help.

Nice seeing you all for a bit. Catch you patriotz laterz.


GravatarStop with the frog puns. Go plant some Crocuses.


Gravatartoo late with the wart pun. curses foiled again. i better hop to it next time.

Try to be just a tad polite about it.


Gravatar
Nice seeing you all for a bit. Catch you patriotz laterz.
Sinfonian, too wired to sleep


Sending some Led Zeppelin at volume 11 your way to sooth ya.


Nice nappers.


GravatarTry to be just a tad polite about it.
JeffCO | 04.13.08 - 2:58 am | #

you and i are poles apart.


Gravatarthat food chain guy sounds like a republican.
pretzelattack


But he understood "The Lion King".

Or knows Mr. Hankey.


Gravatarhoppin' along again. it's been ribbeting.


Gravataryou and i are poles apart.
pretzelattack


You're a tad off


GravatarWhat was I thinking about "allowed" with cats and all.

She does not mind very well.


GravatarI'm rather proud of myself.
Sinfonian, too wired to sleep | Homepage | 04.13.08 - 2:56 am


Hope that the lunch date doesn't run "long" and get in the way of the dinner date.


GravatarGills are right out. Webbed feet on the other hand....


Gravatari dont think "minding" is part of a cat's frame of reference.


GravatarStop with the frog puns. Go plant some Crocuses.

You know us: when it's ranae, it pours.


GravatarThis was a big cat too. The owls around here a huge. They scare the shit out of me all the time popping out of the pitch black. Barn owls have a surprisingly large wing span. The owls like to hunt the little brown bunnies that come snack on my vegetable garden.


GravatarThat happened to my kitten when I was 17. I can still see the look on her face.

Oh, how sad.


Gravatarnothing more reassuring to kids than knowing they could get eaten by something bigger than themselves at any moment.
JeffCO | 04.13.08 - 2:56 am


*knock knock* Who's there?

Land Shark.


Gravatari dont think "minding" is part of a cat's frame of reference.

She knows what "NO" means, but she goes ahead and does what ever anyway.

I'm pissed about the glass though.


Gravatarnothing more reassuring to kids than knowing they could get eaten by something bigger than themselves at any moment.
JeffCO


Well, I've always known that.

When I was seven I dreamed I got eatted by a huge flying disembodied tiger head.

(true story)


Gravatarcat--"no? what an interesting concept. i dont think we have a corresponding word in feline"


GravatarThe owls like to hunt the little brown bunnies that come snack on my vegetable garden.

That wouldn't bother me so much as their screeching Ride of the Valkyries as they descend.


Gravatarhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/ politi...tionpolicy.iraq

:::But following the tribunal's decision, the government now has the power to remove anyone to any part of Iraq. 'We are pleased that the Asylum and Immigration Tribunal has agreed with our view and found that conditions in Iraq are such that an ordinary individual Iraqi civilian is not at serious risk from indiscriminate violence,' a spokesman for the Home Office said.:::

oh jeebus. The anti-immigrant sentiment in the UK, even from Labour, is making me nauseated.


GravatarWhen I was seven I dreamed I got eatted by a huge flying disembodied tiger head.

When I was 5 I dreamed I was in the back of mom's Dodge Dart with a bee that was bigger than my head.


GravatarOh, how sad.

Thanks. That was a long, long, time ago, but it still hurts when I think about it.


GravatarMr. Blue Heron is a brutal murderer. He stabs the catfish over and over with his beak. Sometimes he sits there with frog legs hanging out of wither side of his mouth waiting for the frog to suffocate before swallowing.

But damn he is a beautiful bird.


Gravatari wonder why coyotes thrive even today, and wolves pretty much got wipe out?


Gravatar*knock knock* Who's there?

Land Shark.
Tom - 大肚腩


CandyGram


GravatarWhen I was 7, I dreamed about dying in a swamp in Vietnam.


Gravatarwhen i was 6 or 7 i dreamed i was chased all night by a huge red gorilla. just as he caught me and started to crush me, i woke up.


GravatarWhen I was 5 I dreamed I was in the back of mom's Dodge Dart with a bee that was bigger than my head.

Did it sting you?

The tiger head ate me. I woke up screaming so loud that I woke my parents up.


Gravataroh jeebus. The anti-immigrant sentiment in the UK, even from Labour, is making me nauseated.

Sometimes I think the western world is so fucked up we deserve for something horrible to happen to us.


Gravatari wonder why coyotes thrive even today, and wolves pretty much got wipe out?
pretzelattack


Solitary vs packs.

Find one wolf, you get the whole pack.

Get this, Alaksa leggo is winding up, one bill that State Senator (D) Bill Willokowski would have made some animal abuse things Felonies.

The Governor's office, under the auspice of the "one subject" rule, slipped in legalizing aerial wolf hunting as an amendment to the animal abuse bill.

Their logic on the "one subject" part of our constituion... well, it involved animals.

No shit, just happened yesterday.


GravatarThe tiger head ate me. I woke up screaming so loud that I woke my parents up.

How awful? No more Kipling for you!

The bee was chasing me but I think I got away.


Gravataryou guys got a republican governor up there?


GravatarThe government argued at the tribunal that there was no 'internal armed conflict' in Iraq as defined by the directive. And Home Office lawyers successfully argued the general risks to the refugee in the test case - a man known as KH - were not sufficient for him to be granted protection.

The tribunal ruling has wide implications for Iraqi asylum seekers. It stated: 'Neither civilians in Iraq generally, nor civilians even in provinces and cities worst affected by the armed conflict, can show they face a "serious and individual threat" to their "life or person"... merely by virtue of being civilians.'


Are these people fucking mad?


Gravatarlegalizing aerial wolf hunting

"Hunting" my ass .... what self-respecting hunter would do something like that?


Gravataryou guys got a republican governor up there?
pretzelattack


She has an R after her name, the Goopers hate her.


Gravataraerial wolf hunting is like those canned hunts on "wildlife preserves".


GravatarBut damn he is a beautiful bird.

They eat a lot of gophers around here. The gophers do not die well or easily.

I think that if I had to choose the animal that was going to kill me, I'd pick a big cat like a lion. They just crunch your neck and get it over with.
Too many other animals, especially canines, eat you while you're still alive.


GravatarThe Governor's office, under the auspice of the "one subject" rule, slipped in legalizing aerial wolf hunting as an amendment to the animal abuse bill.

Their logic on the "one subject" part of our constituion... well, it involved animals.

No shit, just happened yesterday.


And some of the fuckers still supporting Clinton wonder why I'm so hell bent on the 50 state strategy.


Gravatarlegalizing aerial wolf hunting

"Hunting" my ass .... what self-respecting hunter would do something like that?


The same kind of hunter who thinks it's a grand idea to hunt deer with an ouzi.


GravatarAnd some of the fuckers still supporting Clinton wonder why I'm so hell bent on the 50 state strategy.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive | Homepage | 04.13.08 - 3:16 am


Really? I can't imagine any Democrat at this point being against a 50 state strategy.


Gravatar
The same kind of hunter who thinks it's a grand idea to hunt deer with an ouzi.
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive | Homepage | 04.13.08 - 3:17 am


or drunkenly shoot his hunting partner in the face.


GravatarWhen I was 20 I dreamed of dying in a swamp in Vietnam. I had that dream for an entire year.


Gravatar(º)(º)


Gravatar"Hunting" my ass .... what self-respecting hunter would do something like that?
DFH in Dubrovnik


Before my time up here, but when they built the pipeline in the '70s, there were plenty of Lousiana and Texas oil guys who moved up here, and just saw unlimited killing fields.

Some stayed, many actually, and their mindset that if they kill more wolves, then there will be more moose to eat won't go away.


GravatarReally? I can't imagine any Democrat at this point being against a 50 state strategy.

Really. HIllary Clinton, Terry McAuliffe and their crowd spring to mind.

They mock the 50 state strategy.


GravatarTroutski, I think a lot of us had that dream.


GravatarSome stayed, many actually, and their mindset that if they kill more wolves, then there will be more moose to eat won't go away.

What morons.

Who eats moose anyway?

(wolves generally eat the very young and very old and also mice)


GravatarWhen I was 20 I dreamed of dying in a swamp in Vietnam. I had that dream for an entire year.

Aiiiyahhh.

Glad U woke up.


GravatarDick Cheney knows why the caged bird sings.

And I'm out - goodnight you gorgeous liberals (and centaurs)! Here's hoping your haid doesn't get eaten before the morning, except possibly by this.


GravatarWhat morons.

Who eats moose anyway?

(wolves generally eat the very young and very old and also mice)
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive


The Alaska Railroad kills on average, 3 moose a day.


GravatarThe Alaska Railroad kills on average, 3 moose a day.

Trains eat moose?

or just the locomotive workers?


GravatarGodDamnAmerica FuckSmallTownAmerica Hussein Obama Watches As The Whoopee Cushion Of The Obama Campaign Farts Its Way ....Out...


GravatarMaddie is big enough to bring down a moose.

Or at least hog the ottoman.


Gravatarhttp://ccoaler.blogspot.com/2008...-sadr- city.html

Chaos persists in Sadr City


GravatarTake out Mookie, offer amnesty to his idiot-adherents


GravatarShow of hands:

Who's looking forward to a 100-year war, run the first four years by a 73-year-old Elmer McFudd?


Gravatar
Trains eat moose?

or just the locomotive workers?
fourlegsgood, sychic intuitive


What isn't hemmoraged too bad goes to the closest village.

It sucks though, the train kills more moose then the hunters do, and yet, killing wolves will do some good that I just don't understand.

I know, lets get PETA to blow up trains? Naw, that's not good either.

The bottom line with me, wow, I have a bottom line... killing one species in greater quantiteis to increase the hunt numbers of another is just silly.(read as STUPID)

If our fish and game guys here don't start looking at Oregon and California with their Salmon, and do what is commonly called learning, and transpose those numbers onto how them killing seals didn't increase fish...

Grrrr.


GravatarLubyanka

Waiting for daybreak to go out in the backyard to look for your missing testicles, Brian?


GravatarBetter McCain than squishy social-worker GodDamnAmerica FuckSmallTownAmerica Obama


GravatarWho's looking forward to a 100-year war, run the first four years by a 73-year-old Elmer McFudd?
DFH in Dubrovnik


And there you have part of the nub of the mcStain problem, he won't live out his first term. So who is his VP, Condi the Magnificent?


GravatarSquishy! Just like DJ, the self-styled "progressive" asshole haunting this joint


GravatarLubyanka

I'll save you the trouble, Brian. After the dog tried to eat your testicles and spat them out in disgust, they were eaten by the rabbit living in your next door neighbor's yard. They're gone forever. No wonder Janet hates you.


GravatarJust like DJ, the self-styled "progressive" asshole haunting this joint
Lubyanka


I've never described myself as "progressive," Brian. I'm rather ordinary. But at least I have my own testicles. I'm not stuck in a dead-end job selling furniture in Cincinnati. And my wife doesn't hate me.


GravatarSquishy: just like self-styled "progressives" feel about the USA--they feel so squishy about everything--like America defending itself from Islamo-terrorists


GravatarI'll tell you one think I don't feel the least bit squishy about- that's shooting trolls into the sun.


GravatarSquishy: just like self-styled "progressives" feel about the USA--they feel so squishy about everything--like America defending itself from Islamo-terrorists
Lubyanka


Does this mean you'll be enlisting soon, Brian? What am I thinking -- a coward like you only talks tough. Never puts his sorry ass on the line.


GravatarDJ:

stay with your fantasy, as all good "progressives" do, dude...


GravatarDJ=MRS IBRAHIM


GravatarBetter McCain than squishy social-worker GodDamnAmerica FuckSmallTownAmerica Obama
Lubyanka | 04.13.08 - 3:45 am | #

thank you hillary for amplifying this attack line


GravatarComment by Lubyanka blocked.

How sweet it is!


Gravatarstay with your fantasy, as all good "progressives" do, dude...

You're making even less sense than usual, Brian. I guess that's a side effect of being a castrato.


GravatarDoes this mean you'll be enlisting soon, Brian? What am I thinking -- a coward like you only talks tough. Never puts his sorry ass on the line.

Brian is about as likely to enlist as Toby is.


Gravatar"progressives" snarked about the "bitter Afghan winter" 10 days after our guys landed in Afghanistan..

"progressives" are fucking subversives to US interests


Gravatarthank you hillary for amplifying this attack line

All she has done is shown how like McCain she is.

By the time this primary is over, not only will she NOT be the nominee, but her political career will be damaged forever.


GravatarI'm terrified of Barack Obama ! Terrified ! ! !


GravatarDJ=MRS IBRAHIM

No, Mrs. I is apparently a Red Sox fan. I'm a White Sox fan.


GravatarHe haunts my dreams every night !

Help me! Please !


GravatarSydB

Obama's arrogance and elitism are being hung around his neck as we speak...

a thing of beauty


GravatarI know he's going to win! I just know it! My party's going down the toilet! I can't face it!


Gravataryour musical interlude*:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...h? v=2DwGgmPrCIg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X...h? v=X5O6q5zEpAo

*now with improved contrast!


GravatarGodDamnAmerica FuckSmallTowmAmerica Obama!

That's who we want as President!


GravatarI'm not bitter! I sold a couple couches yesterday!


GravatarPresident Howard Dean Extends Thanks To Those Nutroots And Bloggers Who Made Him President, Especially Their Contributions During The Iowa Caucuses of 2004...

"You made all the difference..", said President Dean.


Gravatarmorning, all.

Wingers want more war;
Bush on Friday-
"'If Iran makes the right choice, America will encourage a peaceful relationship between Iran and Iraq. Iran makes the wrong choice, America will act to protect our interests, and our troops, and our Iraqi partners,' he said.""
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...41102216_3.html


GravatarThis thread filed away as another example of the unhinged anger directed at commenters/trolls that are easily ignored. You choose to engage them and then when they dare to upset you, you act entitled to cross questionable ethical lines.You outed the guy once, and most in here in fact didn't approve of that kind of action, and now you continue to publish his name and make backhanded comments about how he makes a living and the state of his marriage. All completely inappropriate.


GravatarYou Go, Howie Nutball!!


Gravatar{Reminder to self}

Get someone to put LauraBot, Condi, Dana Perino, and Karen Hughes into this music.

http://www.ptarmigannest.net/tun...' t_Be_Wrong.mp3

If the link doesn't work

Visualize Dubya dancing during the interludes.

{end of note to self}


Gravatarnto

Brian's first friend, or his first sockpuppet? My guess is friend, as he demonstrates more verbal dexterity than Brian is capable of.


Gravatarhttp://www.ptarmigannest.net/tun...' t_Be_Wrong.mp3

This is pissing me off, cause when I cut and paste that link in a new tab, it works.
on it own or with a a href attribute, it fails.

that succks.


GravatarGet someone to put LauraBot, Condi, Dana Perino, and Karen Hughes into this music.


nice song ... not so nice images ... (>_


Gravatarhttp://www.ptarmigannest.net/tun...' t_Be_Wrong.mp3


GravatarSorry, I'm obsessing why I dont get it back at the origin.

weird.


GravatarFreaking apostrophe.


Gravatartry a tinyurl, Barry


Gravatarhttp://www.ptarmigannest.net/ tun...nt_Be_Wrong.mp3

I will now have my way with Grendels mother.


Bitches.


Gravatartry a tinyurl, Barry
TidyCat


Should have done that yea

next time.


Gravatar=^..^=


Gravatarat least that last one works .... i still hate you for the picture of condi, LauraBot, dana & bigfoot dancing to it though ... :P


Gravatarat least that last one works .... i still hate you for the picture of condi, LauraBot, dana & bigfoot dancing to it though ... :P
TidyCat


The concept of the image wasn't meant to be a good one.

Liars.... little miss can't be wrong.


...Somebody wire in a vid conference to my head....


GravatarThe concept of the image wasn't meant to be a good one

Barry from Alaska


good concept - that it's disturbing is a feature, not a bug!

cleansing breath ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d...h? v=dcjOVrDLHms

ahhh ...

=^..^=


GravatarACLU calling for special investigation of WH role in torture, DKos' troutfishing wants call to congress at http://www.dailykos.com/storyonl.../5623/61/ 494219


GravatarMorning Ruth.


Gravatarhi, ql.

Quiet, isn't it?


Gravatarwe're inundated with this Business is the Public Interest mentality; "America needs workers. With the economy slowing, it's more important than ever to get employers the workers they need so that they can prime the business pump again."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...l? tid=informbox


hello, how about paying the ones you've got and training the ones you need?


GravatarMorning, ladies.

Ruth, the Microsoft and other high tech jobs for which they're looking outside the US workforce is high skills for less $.

I was on a project team where all of us were 'older' (as in 50-62) and all contractors. I remarked on it and one of the women told me that we were too expensive to hire as employees.


Gravatar'are' high skills. Sheesh.


GravatarJeffraham Prestonian was a benefits-free "temp" at Vanderbilt U for a very long time before his job became actual.


GravatarHi, Margaret, yep - the underemployed and underpaid sector is huge. Contractors don't have to be 'noticed' to be let go, and don't get bennies either.


GravatarHi, plantsman, all my young sprouts are under wraps this a.m., it's also going to freeze in places tonight.


GravatarWolcott has a nice one about Bette Davis. Lord I loved that woman.


GravatarI almost feel sad for Target, but if they're not gonna notice I have no interests in women's clothes, why should I do their homework for them?


GravatarYesterday, when I walked outside I noticed that for the first time this calendar year it felt "not cold". I luxuriated in it, because the grey and rain are due back today.


GravatarNo notice -- that's the truth. I went in one Monday morning to discover that a project had been defunded. The team was disbanded.

Contractors associated with certain 'job shops' can purchase insurance through the shop but it isn't provided.

It's my experience (contracting for 14+ years) that when there is work, the money is good.


GravatarIt's 36F and raining in Chicago. My bones and joints don't like it.


GravatarChicago! I have to go sometime when I have enough time to visit the Frank Lloyd Wright museum. have done Sears tower, what a sight.


GravatarIt's really a nice city. Along with the giant skyscrapers are some beautiful, old buildings that have been rehabbed to their original beauty.

I live in a town outside of the city where there are several FLW houses. The museum is in Oak Park, I think; a short distance north of me.


GravatarSun is rising over New York City..

Damm, that's a bright red sun.


GravatarJust wonder, isn't anyone aware that in the depression workers were relocated from markets where there were no jobs to the farms where there were plenty? Also,it seems just so basic and so obvious to me that all this 'Merkins won't do the work' assumes that they all can pop into cars and drive where jobs are?


GravatarCoT, the air here yesterday was that incredibly bright, clear, sort, just amazing.


GravatarCoT- way too early for you to be up.

DE is funny in that it is right on the edge of the gulf stream. So on Thursday when three solid days of rain was predicted, it just never came. We had a few showers but it's been warm and humid and sunny.


Gravatarql, DE doesn't get a lot of hurricanes either, does it?


Gravatar(_*_)
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GravatarI now have C. Matthews on my teebee, more troll poop there. McCain being promoted for his war.


Gravatar64% of 'swing voters' think McCain policies will be like w


Gravatar'the Maverick thing' - Matthews saying core group afraid mccain being taken over by right.


GravatarBobo, About access not ideology.


GravatarRomney as McCain's running mate would be a big sop to the right -- a worrisome sop to the folks who got us here.


Gravatarclarence Page, he's pulling it off by strenght of personality, 'straight talker' arrrrggghhhh

that's it, can't stand it anymore.


Gravatarhey peeps


GravatarI think with all the crap coming out about the FLDS Romney's chances of snagging the veep spot are about nil.


GravatarApparently, Huggy Bear is gonna take it to areas where Republicans aren't too popular, like poor barrios, Appalachia, black inner-city neighborhoods.


GravatarRuth,
Read The Grapes of Wrath. They weren't shipped off to new markets, they loaded up their meager possesions and whole families went in search of work. And working on those farms was no treat either and the farm owners treated them the same way that migrants are treated now. Whole families living in one room shacks. Everyone from very young children to very old men and women were forced to work from sunup to sundown and were often paid by weight in script that could only be used at the stores that the farmers owned so they often ended up owing more than they made. It was enslavement.


Gravatarql, that looks like enuff to swamp the Mormons in a lotta ways, but they're totally rejected by the church itself. sadly, reports are that there are 4 who could be the original 'Sarah', pregnant at 16 by 50 yr old child abusers.


Gravatar'the Maverick thing' - Matthews saying core group afraid mccain being taken over by right.

McCain remains the saddest prisoner of war. He has become a prisoner of wars.


GravatarApparently, Huggy Bear is gonna take it to areas where Republicans aren't too popular, like poor barrios, Appalachia, black inner-city neighborhoods.
plantsman,
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well hopefully he has learned from Obama's mistake and will tell the poor people how great they have it and how they should vote for him to keep their lives so blissful.


Gravatar'Apparently, Huggy Bear is gonna take it to areas where Republicans aren't too popular, like poor barrios, Appalachia, black inner-city neighborhoods.'

Good idea. I hope it is always late at night and he's naked.


Gravatarfoolme1ns, there were also CCC camps, that taught skills like growing crops, canning, sewing, both my parents were trainers in MS CCC camps

those Okies did it on their own, it was kinda like being illeguls


GravatarHuggy naked? TMI!


Gravataralso, migrant workers on the Eastern Shore used to be brought in by agents for the agri industries, housed in shacks without running water or indoor plumbing, sent back after the picking and canning was over.


GravatarI don't mind if Huggy is naked in the Bario or the Hood. He supported the torture program dint he? And all the rest? Good for goose and gander ya know.


GravatarI heard that people who did their own food gardens, canning, sewing were less effected by the great depression.

If you grow your own veggies, hunt your own meat, you aren't likely to starve.


GravatarEvery weekend, Huggy retires to the ranchette in Sedona. When the tough stuff comes, will he be ready?


Gravatarthose Okies did it on their own, it was kinda like being illeguls
Ruth
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there is something so inherently wrong in that statement. When was it ever illegal for any American citizen to move across the country on their own to try to find work? Why would it be wrong for any American to try to better his own situation without government help???


GravatarMom's mother used to set pies to cool out on the porch rail. In the worst of the Depression, guys would steal them off the rail.


GravatarSedona? What a tough life!


Gravataralso, migrant workers on the Eastern Shore used to be brought in by agents for the agri industries, housed in shacks without running water or indoor plumbing, sent back after the picking and canning was over.
Ruth
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Yes I know, and I'm not so sure that it isn't still going on today.


GravatarUnless the were illegally riding the rails which a lot were. Poor sods.


GravatarOkies and Arkies were widely seen as economic interlopers by many Californians of the time -- the severe stresses set Americans against each other.


GravatarWhy would it be wrong for any American to try to better his own situation without government help???
foolme1ns


not that it's wrong, but that they were regarded that way by the growers.

and I wouldn't be surprised if E.S. does still have gangs brought in for picking season. I don't live there now, tho.


GravatarHope someone with keys shows up soon.


GravatarThey tried to close California off to peeps outside the state.

If it weren't for all the fun wars, the Depression would be the biggest story in American history.


GravatarI heard that people who did their own food gardens, canning, sewing were less effected by the great depression.
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The poor people in the south were less effected, because they didn't have anything to begin with, so they didn't lose as much, and they had been growing their own food and making their own clothing for generations. It's just what you did to survive.

The poor in the dust bowl suffered more because they could no longer grow crops because the land wouldn't support them. They were hit by the depression and weather changes.


GravatarCan't talk about bad stuff in murika.


GravatarI remember the 50's in NTX, dust blew in for days, even collected inside the house thru the cracks.


GravatarThey tried to close California off to peeps outside the state.

Peep! Peep!
Peep! Peep!
Peep! Peep!


GravatarNo, Murca must be presented as "the envy of the world" in all things -- or you're a traitor!


GravatarSusan Schwab will misrepresent Free Trade today on WashJournal!


GravatarThat was funny, Ruth.


GravatarOkay, I brought clean sheets.


GravatarWant to know what you learned from Petraeus & ambassadoer? heh

, Murca must be presented as "the envy of the world" in all things -- or you're a traitor!
plantsman,


not Murca, no, but Business Uber alles.


GravatarSusan Schwab will misrepresent Free Trade today on WashJournal!
Ruth
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She may try to, but I think enough people understand that "free trade" has not been so free and it has cost a lot of Americans good jobs in exchange for cheap Chinese shiny stuff.

I think on "free trade" Americans may actually be waking up.


Gravatarinvestigate torture WH owls


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