I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
That's always fun.
easily replaced, I think...
How?
How?
Electroshock.
When fans attack!
It was bitter about the elctrons.
Third?
Was there much blood or anything?
keep it in the fridge and it will be ok.
Is res ipsa around?
And this is a metaphor for what?
It sensed a urban transportation post brewing.
fascinating
can we just let benny netanyahu be the next secretary of defense?
is there anything in the constitution that would prevent that?
I used laptops of friends when I was away -- very noisy & hot -- I prefer the traditional desktop model
Don't crotch your laptop, then.
Quick! To the Bat Cave!
Is this thing on?
no fan in a MacBook
Is this thing on?
Barndog, not currently fishing
no
I want my neural jack, Jack! I want to ride the net with my own pet spider tank. Hey, we finally got the freakin TV on the wall they've been promising us for forty years, it could happen!
It seems one of the cooling fans on my laptop has killed itself.
Suicide is a sin against god.
Seems someone would be making a computer that runs cooler by now... the heat is wasted energy.
"I used a fan to dry the puss coming out of my prince albert piercing"-David Broder
The Mac is better, they say.
Is Rorschach here? Apparently, Johnny Depp's in Oshkosh today!
Is Rorschach here? Apparently, Johnny Depp's in Oshkosh today!
Oshkosh? B'gosh!
I sent K&Y's link to the Russian Expobank cheesecake executive calendar to an old friend of mine from law school (Russian-born, Mass-educated).
His response:
"Russia is a post-feminist utopia/wasteland."
It was bitter about the elctrons.
catalexis the Communist | 04.12.08 - 5:56 pm | #
Pour some orange juice on it.
Oshkosh? B'gosh!
Pointer Brand.
Prior Aelred forsakes his vow of non-violence and looses the brands of war!
.
Seems someone would be making a computer that runs cooler by now... the heat is wasted energy.
They're sticking more and more transistors into less and less space. They run hotter as a consequence. One of the drawbacks of having more computing power.
There are several computers the fundamental designs of which are totally rethought for hardware-light Linux apps (Windows can't even wake up without a pound of gear). We were considering buying one of this type before we got our Compaq. We will find the link in a bit, but note that several of the smaller kind do not have fans because they do not need them.
Evidently it needs a tax break.
Is res ipsa around?
Prior Aelred
I think all the uber-NYish types are on a lark of some sort together.
Bastards.
However, the new 45nm process makes a core that uses less total power. But they add more cores so the total power consumption goes up. Soon you will all be using Hummer Laptops.
Bastards
Just like 'em, ain't it?
You can upgrade from the coal-burning fans.
I think Hillary had a hand in it.
I think all the uber-NYish types are on a lark of some sort together.
Bastards.
V for Virginia, just hunky dor
Well, the liberal communist Homosexual agenda isn't going to spread those pods all by itself, ya know...
Jim Nantz needs to blow his nose.
TAX CUTS!!!
TAX FUCKING CUTS!!
CUTTING FUCKING TAXES!!!
FUCK TAXES, CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT !!!
There, I just solved everything.
.
Just like 'em, ain't it?
Barndog, not currently fishing
All havin' fun and shit, most exciting city on Earth (maybe); what ya gonna do?
I think Hillary had a hand in it.
Gomez
Nah.
It's because Obama turned down coffee in favor of orange juice.
My ball striking has been very good today.
Terry,
From below, I know but one should be careful who they align themselves with.
This rift has gone on long enough now. Reality has to impinge on the Clintons at some point, doesn't it?
This "gaffe" is not a mistake that will magically clear the way for Hillary to reclaim the lead. It is not really a gaffe except in her mind and she is grasping at straws now.
I really do not understand their unwillingness to surrender to reality.
I'm lovin' having the Masters leaderboard and video feed and this comments thread open at the same time, but my poor old iLamp is groaning like a fat old bastard at the gym for the first time in ten years.
Five year old computer... that's like seventy-five in human years?
a shot and a bear will fix the laptop fan.
at least it works for me.
FUCK TAXES, CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT !!!
There, I just solved everything.
.
GMT, Democrat Party
PS Bomb Iran.
Luv, McCheney
can we just let benny netanyahu be the next secretary of defense?
I'm sure Blackwater would be happy to put him on staff.
I want to be a coastal elite! I'm stuck in the red state heartland with child raping family values folks all around me!
charlie black and mark penn work for the same corporate conglomerate.
a shot and a bear will fix the laptop fan.
at least it works for me.
peterboy
-----------------------
a bear????? what exactly does the bear do????
TAX FUCKING CUTS!!
CUTTING FUCKING TAXES!!!
FUCK TAXES, CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT !!!
There, I just solved everything.
Wow, my acne is gone!
I really do not understand their unwillingness to surrender to reality.
DWD
People have the right to support who they choose.
Doesn't mean they agree with some jerkoff troll who comes here looking for attention because he's a racist shit whose wife is sick of him.
Ouch...
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news...ov=ap&
type=lgns
ARLINGTON, Va. (AP)—Philadelphia Flyers left wing Patrick Thoresen was released from the hospital Saturday after tests revealed no serious injury from a shot that hit him in the groin.
Thoresen lay writhing in pain after blocking Mike Green’s shot in the third period Friday night of a 5-4 loss to the Washington Capitals. The 24-year-old forward was taken to Washington Hospital Center, where he underwent two ultrasound tests.
“My groin area is sore and swollen,” Thoresen said in comments released by the team. “I can’t really walk properly right now. It hurts.”
Thoresen rested at the team hotel while the Flyers practiced Saturday.
“Everything checked out OK. They were checking to see if there was a rupture. There was none,” general manager Paul Holmgren said.
Holmgren said he wouldn’t be surprised if Thoresen played in Game 2 on Sunday.
Well, you buy a shot for the bear too.
It likes the sweeter stuff.
Evidently it needs a tax break.
baba durag
I took a tax break earlier today. Now I'm writing checks.
a bear????? what exactly does the bear do????
foolme1ns
Shit in the woods?
Five year old computer... that's like seventy-five in human years?
SteveLG
Wow... ancient. I need a new one at least every two. I like lots of things open at once.
There, I just solved everything.
Wow, my acne is gone!
SteveNS
Holy shit, I'm thin and 25!
Thanks, republicans!
I think all the uber-NYish types are on a lark of some sort together.
Hmmm...A Prairie Home Companion is at Town Hall tonight.
Nah.
Hey, all you "Deep Thought" fans!
Mark Penn — whose firm, Burson-Marsteller, owns Mr. Black’s firm — stepped aside last week as chief strategist for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s campaign.
Mr. Black resigned from his firm, BKSH, the previous week.
Mr. Black has worked for some o0f the city’s most controversial clients (Jonas Savimbi, Philip Morris, Blackwater) and with the baddest boys of Republican politics (he cut his teeth on Jesse Helms’s campaigns, and was a mentor to Lee Atwater).
(edited from today's wapost.
Gonna go upstairs and fuck your grandmother now.
-George Carlin
.
Well, you buy a shot for the bear too.
It likes the sweeter stuff.
Jay C.
Bears don't like Jagermeister?
Five year old computer... that's like seventy-five in human years?
SteveLG
Wow... ancient. I need a new one at least every two. I like lots of things open at once.
racymind
I ride 'em pretty hard, too. Plus it really doesn't help when you periodically dump a cocktail into the keyboard, I've found.
YMMV.
Another application for the Bag of Frozen Peas. Also great for sprains and burns.
ARLINGTON, Va. (AP)—Philadelphia Flyers left wing Patrick Thoresen was released from the hospital Saturday after tests revealed no serious injury from a shot that hit him in the groin.
Depends what you mean by "serious," I suppose.
Actually, Ovechkin scored the winning goal for the Caps while Thoresen was lying on the ice.
I got a 7 year old Vaio without one sign of sickness.
A Prairie Home Companion is at Town Hall tonight.
That was last week, at least on the radio in my car.
"Petrol prices have surged to more than $2 a litre in some places, and filling a 50-litre tank may cost over $100."
Wow... ancient. I need a new one at least every two. I like lots of things open at once.
racymind
I also have a bottle of wine open... didn't even mention that.
nobody likes jager...
U DA MAN
I ride 'em pretty hard, too. Plus it really doesn't help when you periodically dump a cocktail into the keyboard, I've found.
YMMV.
V for Virginia, just hunky dor
I am jonesing for a 24" monitor. This 19" seems pathetic now. Three years ago it seemed like a football field.
I have a 7 year-old Dell. The monitor died a few months ago, but I've never had any problems with the computer itself.
That was last week, at least on the radio in my car.
Two week stint, I think.
Regardless, I think that he tapes his shows on Fridays...at least when he here at home.
Doesn't mean they agree with some jerkoff troll who comes here looking for attention because he's a racist shit whose wife is sick of him.
Terry C, Obama 08
Saint John McVain posts here?
Who knew?
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas
Have I told you today that I love you?
And downstairs I was virtually frisking SteveLG.
I blame the vodka and the irresistibility of the two of you equally.
I just realized there are no ads on this golf broadcast.
How do they expect one to pee?
[shrugs]
Sun announced a new server line a couple of days ago.
Two processors, eight cores each, eight threads on each core.
Lotta programmers gonna have to go back to college, I think.
I dont know if Macs are better than PC's, but judging by the tv ads, Macs are way cooler. And hipper too
Time to consider an Intel Mac that can run your precious Windows AND the other system. Ask Josh what he thinks.
Check out VMware Fusion or Parallels (or the included Boot Camp).
AT LONG LAST: A NEW PAGE OF JDW'S CATS PLUS BONUS SPRING YARD FLOWER PICS
Wait. There's an ad. Later.
My ball striking has been very good today.
Gomez
Doesn't that hurt?
Saint John McVain posts here?
Who knew?
R. Manhammer
I got a 7 year old Vaio without one sign of sickness.
sdg
Nothing "sick" about the iLamp... that's why I can't bring myself to replace it.
But with several streaming goodies (especially the video feed from the Masters) open at the same time it has a hard time keeping up.
Macs are for unserious people.
I am jonesing for a 24" monitor. This 19" seems pathetic now. Three years ago it seemed like a football field.
racymind
I coughed up for the 26" Apple Cinema Display. Worth. Every. Penny.
as I said earlier today, I fried my keybord on the laptop with some of feral's fine wine.
need to get a new one and install.
that will be an adventure for IT-nit-for-dad such as myself.
Have I told you today that I love you?
Awww, thanks sweetie. It's just like, uhhhh, two weeks ago. Except I'm sober for the moment.
*mwah*
CAN'T MISS ANY OF THAT INTENSE GOLF ACTION! IN YOUR FACE! YEAH!
Lightning in Boston, time to throw the tarp on and let the grounds crew slide around for our enjoyment.
Macs are for unserious people.
My ex-husband won one for having the most correct picks in the March Madness pool.
He's never used a computer in his life.
AT LONG LAST: A NEW PAGE OF JDW'S CATS PLUS BONUS SPRING YARD FLOWER PICS
jdw
Purty!
Teh kittehs AND teh posies!
yes, yes, i know, macs never break.
Doesn't that hurt?
Gromit
Only when I pee.
Macs are for unserious people.
I only use Windows for paying customers.
And I don't come cheap.
I am jonesing for a 24" monitor. This 19" seems pathetic now. Three years ago it seemed like a football field.
racymind |
my 12-inch Mac had some sort of power issue THAT I SWEAR WAS NOT MY FAULT, and while Mr. V dealt with that I was using my original 14" one (she of the unfortunate cocktail incident, as I recall on election day 2006).
That frickin' think was like a Mack truck. HUGE. I'm so glad to have the petite flower back in service!
Lightning in Boston, time to throw the tarp on and let the grounds crew slide around for our enjoyment.
They've gotta put pillows in their shirts for the full effect.
I'm thinking about getting a laptop stand with built-in cooling fans, since I never disconnect it and roam around the house with it anyway.
"Purty!
Teh kittehs AND teh posies!"
thank you...hopefully buckeye is around...always asking for cat pics!
yes, yes, i know, macs never break.
They clear your sinuses, too.
From looking at the price tag when you buy it and the repair bill when it DOES break...
What the fuck is a Snedecker or an Immelman?
They will choke on Sunday.
I'm off to drive in this wintry mix.
Peace.
Lightning in Boston, time to throw the tarp on and let the grounds crew slide around for our enjoyment.
Who was the guy on the Orioles who used to do that?
Owning a mac acts as a "moral credit" to make up for watching TV.
In the Boston Phoenix's list of America's 100 Unsexiest Men, the article described Mike Huckabee as a dead ringer for Gromit's human pal.
I laughed.
ZOMG! I see the sun!!
The "wintry mix" is no more, people.
Snedeker and Immelman sounds like one o'them fancy Philly accounting firms.
jdw --
Punky AKA: Punky Whip, Mr. Whipples, Whippy Whip, Orange Whip, The Punk, Nipples, Punkster, Pugsley, Flounder Mouth WhipperSnapper, Crunchbutt
Oh, god, another one.
Nice flahr pitchers!
you think computers are expensive to fix, try a saab convertible.
thats why they call them "saab".
that's the noise you make when you get the repair bill.
I'm off to drive in this wintry mix.
Jeez, it's at least 80 here!
I may have to break out the air conditioner tomorrow...
That frickin' think was like a Mack truck. HUGE. I'm so glad to have the petite flower back in service!
V for Virginia, drinks for .go
I like smaller laptops. I have a 14.1" on my lappie, and that was the largest I even considered.
The "wintry mix" is no more, people.
For you, maybe.
Oh well, great weather for the polar bears!
These rookies are choking already.
Who was the guy on the Orioles who used to do that?
Gromit
Rick Dempsey.
Someone kill me for knowing that.
A few months back my PC was making god awful noises and suddenly shutting itself down for no apparent reason. Microsoft kept sending me conflicting crash reports. So I convinced myself I needed a new hard drive. As I took the case off to install the new hard drive I noticed that the fan was periodically grinding to a halt and shutting down the whole thing. So now I have a $20 and an extra big honking hard drive.
I would like to briefly note that no one has commented on what heinous crimes atrios must have committed upon his laptop to drive it suicidal.
In the Boston Phoenix's list of America's 100 Unsexiest Men, the article described Mike Huckabee as a dead ringer for Gromit's human pal.
He is such a wiener. But he pays the rent.
Oh well, great weather for the polar bears!
They eat people, you know.
PEOPLE!!!
Oh noes it turns out the Army still doesn't believe in fourth generation warfare.
Drudge reports, “Tough Job Market: Former attorney general Alberto Gonzales has been unable to interest law firms in adding his name to their roster…developing…” TNR’s Isaac Chotiner quips, “Riiight–it’s the tough job market.”
Someone kill me for knowing that.
SteveLG
(puts steve into ilk suit)
its ilk season!!
Seems someone would be making a computer that runs cooler by now... the heat is wasted energy.
bloggus
They have--the computing power of your 25-pound, 500-watt laptop from 1990 is now happily and coolly humming away in your cell phone and your iPod.
Computers would run a lot cooler if the damn consumers didn't keep insisting that they run faster.
Jeez, it's at least 80 here!
I may have to break out the air conditioner tomorrow...
dave™©
I'd do it after the earthquake that's coming that may kill all of you.
Matt Taibbi used to write for the Exile. Good stuff.
jdw+theme from Top Cat = die.die.die.
I think Mike Huckabee's tres sexy. I love me some former fat, long-in-the-tooth, long-in-the-forehaid men.
I would like to briefly note that no one has commented on what heinous crimes atrios must have committed upon his laptop to drive it suicidal.
theodoric of athens
I can't say with any certainty that it's atrios's fault. There are a lot of fans out there which aren't well balanced, and for reasons having nothing to do with their employer du jour, choose to end it all.
Frankly, I think there may be a possibility here that atrios may be able to use do counselling. After all, he's just a yung'un, and they are prone to magical thinking.
And with the thought that I ♥ Huckabee, I'm really going.
jdw, you have some loud-ass cats.
Computers would run a lot cooler if the damn consumers didn't keep insisting that they run faster.
We desire a dancing panda. INSTANTLY.
Computers would run a lot cooler if the damn consumers didn't keep insisting that they run faster.
IBM announced a water-cooled 5GHz server this week.
OK, 15 minutes more sitting on my ass, and then I'm going to get the &^%#$^& groceries.
ben stein has a new movie out.
he is a intellichimp design cretinist now.
he says its not fair to teach their bullshit alongside real science.
and i thought ben stein was intelligent. obviously not.
I'd do it after the earthquake that's coming that may kill all of you.
You may not know this, but there IS a thing called "earthquake weather"...
?There are a lot of fans out there which aren't well balanced, and for reasons having nothing to do with their employer du jour, choose to end it all.
They need to call a Hot Line.
raining at fenway
I like smaller laptops. I have a 14.1" on my lappie, and that was the largest I even considered.
racymind
The widescreen (16:9) ones are nice because they're shorter vertically. As far as I'm concerned, if it's too wide for a coach-class seat and too tall to be used when dickhead in the row ahead of you reclines, it ain't a laptop.
jdw:
Is Bamboozle a blue-cream?
Love her markings.
Computers would run a lot cooler if the damn consumers didn't keep insisting that they run faster.
Dr. Wu
Myself, I'm perfectly happy for my computer to run at the same speed. I just want it to be able to run more stuff at the same time at the same speed as before.
Of course, I'm probably a minority or something.
Ben Stein
Apparently Darwin caused the Holocaust.
Sure, Macs break -- although less often, statistically -- but again I fail to see why a PC user wouldn't want the option to run both operating systems. Why be so proud as to not buy the Mac? Is it really the $50 price difference?
All sorts of PC Magazine authorities have said that Macs are now the best-built PCs.
Former attorney general Alberto Gonzales has been unable to interest law firms in adding his name to their roster
Gee, I wonder why.
They need to call a Hot Line.
SteveLG
I kick myself for not thinking of that.
Hey John Yoo. Alberto's calling to you.
Daughter in college has a Toshiba satellite that has a flaw where the heat sink fills up with dust and overheats shutting the machine down. Couple years ago found instructions on the web to take the thing apart - down to the mama board. Really very easy. So I took it apart - cleaned the heat sink and put together again. Success.
This spring break same problem. I take apart, clean, put together again. Turn on and screech/boom it shuts off. I ask daughter, did you back everything up fore I started this. Oh I got a well deserved shit storm from her.
It all worked out - not sure if re-clipping the various parts in and out, or starting while holding F2 down did it. But for a couple hours I had ruined her life - term papers and all.
So back up before you get that new fan!
and i thought ben stein was intelligent. obviously not.
HULK
as my late father would say about people like Ben Stein:
The bastard would sell his asshole and shit out his ribs if that would bring him a tidy enough profit.
Was Cheney fishing with a naked woman?
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/sl...0f2137abea0a7b/
I've got a 15.4 for home use (such as screwing around over at this place), and one at work that could only be considered a laptop if your lap was the size of an aircraft carrier.
The euro's strength against the dollar may explain a rise in the availability of cocaine in Europe and a decline in the US, a US anti-drugs official says.
Gonzales can start a work comp practice and do cheezy TV ads in the afternoon.
I am going to make a steak sandwich with the thin sliced ribeye in my fridge.
BBL.
Oh, god, another one."
yes, spaetzel is a regular, even made him a little house...but...but...he's outdoor only.
"Is Bamboozle a blue-cream?"
dunno. she's some form of mutant that found her way into our yard as a lost kitten. she's an oddball, very retiring. very few people outside of us have ever seen her. she hears a strange voice or a knock at the door and hightails it.
Was Cheney fishing with a naked woman?
Where do you put the hook on a naked woman?
i have the dual core MAC....never learned how to switch to the windows side. I had a pc laptop for that.
seriously, though, I have not had a laptop I could use in coach if the pal in front of me had her/his seat back.
I don't mind Macs. I do mind the initial outlay of lotsa money.
But I've got an iPod Touch...
Apparently Darwin caused the Holocaust.
Then Einstein caused Hiroshima.
I kick myself for not thinking of that.
R. Manhammer
[pours R. Manhammer a good healthy slurp of Pascal Maillard's Chorey les Beaune 2002]
It's just an elitist Chardonnay kind of day.
Snedeker just gave one a drink.
I am going to make a steak sandwich with the thin sliced ribeye in my fridge.
BBL.
racymind
That's what I had for dinner.
one at work that could only be considered a laptop if your lap was the size of an aircraft carrier.
Ouch!
I bit my tongue.
One problem with Macs: Total hardware monopoly.
GWPDA around?
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp...id=055-
LAUNCHER
Former attorney general Alberto Gonzales has been unable to interest law firms in adding his name to their roster
Besides, he couldn't get a decent legal secretary to work for him, in which case, he'd be well and truly fucked.
and i thought ben stein was intelligent. obviously not.
HULK
IntelliWhore.
Here's the original photo montage from Big Time's fly-fishing trip
http://www.whitehouse.gov/vicepr...utdoors/
06.html
[pours R. Manhammer a good healthy slurp of Pascal Maillard's Chorey les Beaune 2002]
It's just an elitist Chardonnay kind of day.
SteveLG
*sighs*
What's Ben Stein do for an encore?
A global warming denial movie?
He probably wants equal time in schools for that bullshit too.
Administration Set to Use New Spy Program in U.S.
Congressional Critics Want More Assurances of Legality
The Bush administration said yesterday that it plans to start using the nation's most advanced spy technology for domestic purposes soon, rebuffing challenges by House Democrats over the idea's legal authority.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml?
nav=hcmodule
These assholes ain't even shy about it any more.
STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Scientists have found a cluster of spruces in the mountains in western Sweden which, at an age of 8,000 years, may be the world's oldest living trees.
The hardy Norway spruces were found perched high on a mountain side where they have remained safe from recent dangers such as logging, but exposed to the harsh weather conditions of the mountain range that separates Norway and Sweden.
Mike Huckabee does not understand this story.
*sighs*
R. Manhammer
Don't be bitter.
IBM announced a water-cooled 5GHz server this week.
theodoric of athens
Thus allowing modern consumers to experience the long-lost joys of water-cooled mainframes: coolant leaks, pump failures, and all.
Mike Huckabee does not understand this story.
trifecta
They were high enough on the mountain that the dinosaurs couldn't eat them.
Maybe Ben Stein will do an all-male movie too.
Ferris Bueller Gets Off.
Starring Corporal Sanchez and Jeffy Lube Gannon as Bueller.
Oh my goodness, Obama does it again!!!
Right after orange juice gate, he jumps right into angry middle class gate.
Will the man ever stop?
Don't be bitter.
SteveLG
Merely envious of your elitist chardonnay.
Actually, Einstein had a hell of a lot more to do with Hiroshima than Darwin ever had with the Holocaust.
Chokelson just birdied.
Frank Rich takes a break from Hillary-bashing to write about Abu Ghraib
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/1...ion/
13rich.html
Yeah, it's all Albert's fault.
Right after orange juice gate, he jumps right into angry middle class gate.
Will the man ever stop?
foolme1ns
Clearly our only option is McSame.
Dudes are backin' up to Tiger.
Well, I saw that picture of you and COT, so you probably are part of The Homosexual Agenda anyway.
racymind
Jeebus -- I got on a random bus travelling from NYC to the suburbs in the middle of the night last night, and who do I meet?
Some dude on the bus who brought up that same picture.
P O'Neill, about fucking time.
Snedeker will double bogey at least.
Frank Rich takes a break from Hillary-bashing to write about Abu Ghraib
I hope he's back to Hillary-bashing on Monday.
Wait. I counted wrong. Just a bogey.
Why do Democrats hate money and want to be poor?
"P O'Neill, about fucking time."
It's about fucking time?? COOL!!
Y is a fan of Henri Poincaré. K won't let Y put a poster of Poincaré up because of a decorating faux pas it would create.
Some dude on the bus who brought up that same picture.
I'm just glad Minnesotans don't know what blogs are...
Jeebus -- I got on a random bus travelling from NYC to the suburbs in the middle of the night last night, and who do I meet?
Some dude on the bus who brought up that same picture.
Culture Of Truth
!!!!!!!!!!!
So much for anonymity . . .
Dudes are backin' up to Tiger.
SteveLG
That was inevitable.
If they make the course easier, Tiger benefits.
If they make the course harder, Tiger benefits.
My late dad would watching anyone with clubs chasing a ball around on TV.
Me? The Masters is pretty much the beginning and end... British Open to a much lesser extent.
Neither of us are familiar with Poincare.
Why do fat bearded men from Austin hate themselves and try to pretend to be a woman?
{{{Uncle Blodge!!!}}}
Feeling any better?
Why do Democrats hate money and want to be poor?
Because bananas mate with goldfish in the moonlight.
Hope this helps.
"Somebody let Obama kidnap so many states and delegates that he almost has an insurmountable lead over the Clinton campaign. - Mark Green
Mo Dowd is Clenis-hating again
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/1...ion/
13dowd.html
Neither of us are familiar with Poincare.
the goddamn k&y
Y is. Y just doesn't want to show you up.
for some reason i prefer miniature golf. i think its the plastic dinosaur. you dont see plastic dinosaur hazards at augusta.
Virginia, seltzer--->>>monitor.
You're a very naughty girl 
left out the close quote.
Hmmm...I've discovered that Terrence Trent D'Arby was just a stage name.
Don't ask why I needed to find this out.
for some reason i prefer miniature golf. i think its the plastic dinosaur. you dont see plastic dinosaur hazards at augusta.
pretzelattack
That goddamned windmill gets me so hot I can hardly putt.
Hillary’s right.
The boys are holding her back.
And the worst part is, they’re her own boys.
Oh hell, I am damned forever; I Laughed at that one.
"Feeling any better?"
Physically, yeah. It was my ulcer.
world is still filled with stupid though.
How bout you? things still looking better?
mmm back...
mmmm...chomp... (slurps red wine spritzer)... chomp...
Uncle B, yeah, they are. Just anxious since Monsieur flew out this morning to attend a funeral in Maine.
That goddamned windmill gets me so hot I can hardly putt.
V for Virginia, drinks for .go
I have no fucking idea what that's about but it cracked me up.
Hmmm...I've discovered that Terrence Trent D'Arby was just a stage name.
The moment I heard him, back in '87 or whenever I said "There's the next Prince."
Which tells you something about my grasp of popular music.
The boys are holding her back. And the worst part is, they’re her own boys.
No one could've foreseen that an establishment Democrat could be footshot by the exact same "retarded advisors" problem that plagued every previous campaign since Clinton.
"Just anxious since Monsieur flew out this morning to attend a funeral in Maine."
you know the number dearie ;|)
maybe they could keep the course the same, but then convert the greens into miniature golf holes. i think this would increase the audience, cause people could relate. who has not faced their own windmill, in the golf course of their life?
Teh laptop resists the forthcoming move.
Mo Dowd is Clenis-hating again
Poor dear - she's SO bitter.
Late to the thread, but I read that and thought fans, as a "fan" of this blog. Had not idea what the cooling was about.
I've been busy and just now heard CNN talker going on and on about Obama's "gaffe". Sheesh, what's wrong with those people.
Bitter? frustrated?
Hell yes. Neither guns nor religion do anything for me, though, I require other remedies.
Cheers! It's 4:20 somewhere!
Which tells you something about my grasp of popular music.
He had all the staying power of the C+C Music Factory juggernaut.
"Had not idea what the cooling was about."
it's the fucking cool kids.
of which I am not a member.
goddamit.
GWPDA: did you see our pretty flowers linked upthread?
From Rich:
The simple explanation for why we shun the war is that it has gone so badly. But another answer was provided in the hearings by Senator George Voinovich of Ohio, one of the growing number of Republican lawmakers who no longer bothers to hide his exasperation. He put his finger on the collective sense of shame (not to be confused with collective guilt) that has attended America’s Iraq project. “The truth of the matter,” Mr. Voinovich said, is that “we haven’t sacrificed one darn bit in this war, not one. Never been asked to pay for a dime, except for the people that we lost.”
Amen, Senator. Why I haven't heard Obama or Clinton saying this is a mystery to me. Reasonable people may disagree on the decision to go to war, but only a complete moron would defend putting the war on the Bank of China credit card. Bush's rich buddies haven't "sacrificed" a goddamn thing, and quite a few of them are lining their pockets with war profits. The media, with their news blackout on anything that could be considered a class-war issue, sure as hell aren't going to say anything. It's time for the Democrats to step up and do so.
Who could fail to love a concept album titled "Heaven's Movie"?
goddamit.
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Well, I think you're the coolest.
Poor dear - she's SO bitter.
It's gotta be tough when neither the husband OR the wife will fuck you...
I think one should be able to easily bite through a steak sandwich without worrying about pulling the entire steak out after each bite. Nice 'n' tender.
I have achieved this.
there is almost no connection between the standard war narratives that they try to fit iraq into, and reality.
Uncle Blodge claims to be so uncool that he must be totally cool.
Late to the thread, but I read that and thought fans, as a "fan" of this blog. Had no idea what the cooling was about.
mer
You are so adorable.
I've been busy and just now heard CNN talker going on and on about Obama's "gaffe". Sheesh, what's wrong with those people.
With the MSM whores, telling the God's honest truth in a "gaffe".
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee - 87F and 8% humidity! EIGHT PER CENT.!
Damn paint dries on the brush.
The rumour mill sez that Mo Dowd is bitter because Arianna didn't set her up with Larry David like she asked her to.
IS a "gaffe" - sorry.
Why I haven't heard Obama or Clinton saying this is a mystery to me.
Simple: Hitlery is EEEEEVVVIIIIILLLL!
As for Obama... umm... well... er... Hitlery is EEEEEVVVIIIIILLLL!
I've been busy and just now heard CNN talker going on and on about Obama's "gaffe". Sheesh, what's wrong with those people.
I've got news for the bubble-headed bimbos at CNN: I'm frustrated, I'm bitter, I'm goddamn pissed off, I'm giving Obama plenty of money, and I'm voting for him. And since around 1995, when it became a cross between Fox News and Entertainment Tonight, I haven't watched your piece of shit network. Spin that, motherfuckers.
"It seems one of the cooling fans on my laptop has killed itself."
Well, now that you have had one or two days of equity building, it's time to invest in one of these.
http://www.ego-lifestyle.com/col...ctions/diamond/
dave, you'll never hear the end of it from the hillbots for calling her hitlery.
i learned this one the hard way.
Uncle Blodge claims to be so uncool that he must be totally cool.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Absolutely.
since around 1995, when it became a cross between Fox News and Entertainment Tonight, I haven't watched your piece of shit network.
Is that when Ted sold it?
He made the same speech twice, more or less right?
How is that a "gaffe."
It was a sermon, a sermom to all the bitter people, Obama brings sweet sweet economics for all who thirst.
Immelman is very good. He's going to be tough for Tiger to catch. Started out rough today but pulled it together and has a two shot lead, five ahead of Tiger.
I don't look for him to give it away.
i hate to ask what obamas gaffe is. is it the terrible faux paus of asking for orange juice, or his unpatriotic bowling style? or could it be some fresh hell?
you'll never hear the end of it from the hillbots for calling her hitlery.
It's a pun.
dave, you'll never hear the end of it from the hillbots for calling her hitlery.
i learned this one the hard way.
HULK
Hulk, Smashed.
could it be some fresh hell?
Magic 8-Ball say: "Fresh Hell."
GWPDA: did you see our pretty flowers linked upthread?
NOES! SHOW ME FLOWERS! WANT!
New Barack reaction if you are interested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G....dailykos.com/
#
"Well, I think you're the coolest.|"
well thank you.
actually i have no fashion sense, like no weird movies or music, and have had my hair cut professionally once since 1987.
On the other hand I have eaten and liked Ethiopian food...
And i can say "Jesus Christ and a fucking piece of fornicating chickenshit" in context.
so I guess it all balances out
Chokelson just birdied.
Gomez
why are the birds louder just before a tee shot?
The moment I heard him, back in '87 or whenever I said "There's the next Prince."
Which tells you something about my grasp of popular music.
SteveLG
I can't tell you how reassuring this is, because I heard whatever single of his was playing on teh raddio machine, and ran out and bought the CD toot-sweet. And then . . . meh.
sermom
Say, you kids are into the music, aren't ya?
Zapette and I are currently digging Bon Iver.
He made the same speech twice, more or less right?
Some people are so dense they need to be told things more than once.
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee - 87F and 8% humidity! EIGHT PER CENT.!
Damn paint dries on the brush.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian
GWPDA, even though we're friends, I have to tell you that this borders on sadism for those of us in Chicago, Detroit and points North.
Sally Quinn on CNN discussing faith and politics.
"Uncle Blodge claims to be so uncool that he must be totally cool."
That really wasn't that cool to say that, so your uncool is then cool.
Kewl!
A-freakin'-men, Dr. Wu.
I'm bitter as hell that the US is guilty of torture, of war crimes, of criminal negligence (NOLA), etc., and there seems not to be one damn thing any of us citizens can do to change the stupid course.
i hate to ask what obamas gaffe is. is it the terrible faux paus of asking for orange juice, or his unpatriotic bowling style? or could it be some fresh hell?
pretzelattack
Obama dared call heartland voters bitter, for clutching their guns and voting Repug. Never mind the fact that it's true..
Immelman is very good.
Gary Player, who shot 78 yesterday, said Immelman has the closest thing to Ben Hogan's swing he's seen.
That's a good thing.
Teh laptop resists the forthcoming move.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian | 04.12.08 - 6:45 pm
This pic from Yahk confuses me, there is blue sky.
http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/bchighwa...ex.aspx?
cam=129
Mickelson is pudge boy.
i hate to ask what obamas gaffe is. is it the terrible faux paus of asking for orange juice, or his unpatriotic bowling style? or could it be some fresh hell?
pretzelattack
Telling the truth about people who cling to ideas that have kept them poor.
Uncle Blodge claims to be so uncool that he must be totally cool.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Uncle Blodge is magically babe-alicious. Plus he's all like cool and shit.
i hate to ask what obamas gaffe is. is it the terrible faux paus of asking for orange juice, or his unpatriotic bowling style? or could it be some fresh hell?
pretzelattack
He had the gall to suggest that blue-collar voters in Pennsylvania, who have lost their jobs, their homes, and their health care, might be a wee bit pissed off about it. To Hillary, that's "condescending." To the media, it fails to show sufficient obeisance to their corporate overlords, and is therefore uppity-negro talk.
I can't tell you how reassuring this is, because I heard whatever single of his was playing on teh raddio machine, and ran out and bought the CD toot-sweet.
"Wishing Well" is a good song and holds up well to this day.
why are the birds louder just before a tee shot?
1Watt, Hermit
They're prerecorded. The sound guy is working his magic.
hmm never heard of immelman. when does the basketball start?
GWPDA, even though we're friends, I have to tell you that this borders
on sadism for those of us in Chicago, Detroit and points North.
Nah - this is my ROI for having been born in Calgary. I've done my time.
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash
That's two.
and there seems not to be one damn thing any of us citizens can do to change the stupid course.
helena handbasket
It's all part of the Chilean Economic Miracle!
Sally Quinn on CNN discussing faith and politics.
"Ms. Quinn, has God forgiven you for fucking Ben Bradlee under his previous wife's nose? Or do you give a shit?"
ah, he told the truth. i was afraid it was something like that.
Sally Quinn on CNN discussing faith and politics.
Karatist Preacher
Thanks for the warning.
never heard of immelman
German WW1 ace who originated the Immelmann Turn.
“we haven’t sacrificed one darn bit in this war, not one. Never been asked to pay for a dime, except for the people that we lost.”
some day, some econ PhD candidate at some elite university will go back and calculate the real inflation rate over the last eight years, and demonstrate how wrong this is.
Fee things are more relaxing than a golf nap
There's a guy in the gallery wearing sandals.
The MSM is playing it as Obama's gaffe.
The rest of the public recognizes it for what it is: telling the truth.
Anyone who isn't bitter hasn't been paying attention, or earns more than a million a year.
(h/t to Sinfonian, I think) There are two sorts of Republican voters: multimillionaires, and suckers.
German WW1 ace who originated the Immelmann Turn.
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash | 04.12.08 - 6:55 pm | #
ace is a golf term right?
Sorry if this is a repeat:
You can't find da Pope in da White House.
He had the gaii
Dr. Wu
Shorter.
People who are too stupid to understand that Obama's insults were really parables are upset at being dissed.
He deeply regrets offending the stupid people, but as it wasn't his intent, they need to shut up now and not be bitter over it.
And i can say "Jesus Christ and a fucking piece of fornicating chickenshit" in context.
so I guess it all balances out
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
Yes. And that's what makes you Tres Kool.
"Wishing Well" is a good song and holds up well to this day.
SteveLG |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K...h?v=K-Uz-
dPANDY
(embarrased by the cool comments...)
watching the worlds deadliest catch marathon. I think every fan o the show has a favorite boat. I like the cornelia marie. they're a hoot + 1/2
From WT's Raw Story link:
The White House has scheduled a dinner next week in honor of Pope Benedict XVI's first visit to the United States, but one guest will be conspicuously absent from the proceedings: the pope himself.
Heh.
How is telling the truth an "insult"?
later, 'bats
Peace
some day, some econ PhD candidate at some elite university will go back and calculate the real inflation rate over the last eight years, and demonstrate how wrong this is.
theodoric of athens
Kevin Phillips has an article in the new Harpers about bogus economic statistics. I'd tell you what it says, but two paragraphs are enough to put me to sleep every night.
And it's the same two paragraphs, I think.
They're prerecorded. The sound guy is working his magic.
bill
I knew they were recorded, just can't understand why they're so much louder on the tee shots.
Nah - this is my ROI for having been born in Calgary. I've done my time.
GWPDA, yclept Irate Historian
OK. I was born and raised in the drowned city.
Lived five years, nearly, in Edinburgh. Cold and gray. Now 22 in Chicago.
So how long, 'xactly, do I have to endure 38 degree Aprils till I get to escape to someplace humane, hmmm?
I think I've paid my dues with respect to crappy weather...
To the media, it fails to show sufficient obeisance to their corporate overlords, and is therefore uppity-negro talk.
Dr. Wu |
BOW DOWN BEFORE EMPEROR MAVERICK MCCRAZY!!
There are two sorts of Republican voters: multimillionaires, and suckers.
DDerbes, writin' demon
And the suckers refuse to see that the multi-millionaires are playing them.
It seems one of the cooling fans on my laptop has killed itself.
Not cool.
*snicker*
-
You can't find da Pope in da White House.
watertiger
Observes, "D00d, I'm just a former Nazi, this shit is wack."
How is telling the truth an "insult"?
You know how wingers are about reality.
They regard it as a personal attack.
irt the "bitter" gaffe: may I suggest that, true or not, it was not the best word choice.
cant help comparing obama to michael jordon and tiger woods. is barry the jordon-woods of the political world.
jordon great on the stuff shots, woods great with the putts, but thats it. both are in the game for themselves, fuck everything else. this is how i see obama. great at speechifying, but not much there after that. worked with a lot of these types in the corporate world.
come across great in meetings and bullshitting, but not much else there. good at dazzling the rank and file workers, but that was it.
I can't tell you how reassuring this is, because I heard whatever single of his was playing on teh raddio machine, and ran out and bought the CD toot-sweet.
"Wishing Well" is a good song and holds up well to this day.
SteveLG | 04.12.08 - 6:54 pm |
I still like If You All Get to Heaven.
Observes, "D00d, I'm just a former Nazi, this shit is wack."
It's unclear why the Pope won't be attending the dinner in his honor, but he is expected to touch on issues upon which he and President Bush disagree during the visit, especially the Iraq war.
During his visit to the United Nations a few days later, the Pope will address "the false notion that might makes right," according to a Vatican representative.
Some experts also predict the Pope would criticize the "culture of fear" in the United States.
I don't think Georgie Boy wants to hear that.
How is telling the truth an "insult"?
Terry C, Obama 08 |
Some folks can't handle the truth..Cue Jack....
yeah i was just thinking that, isnt this the former hitler youth leader?
bush is working overtime on uniting people the world over. i wonder what percentage worldwide would like to see him frog marched into the hague?
So Obama broke the golden rule and he stopped pretending that everything is rosy and everyone is happy and well off.
Damn that orange juice drinking non bowler. How dare he tell the truth.
"You know how wingers are about reality.
They regard it as a personal attack."
facts. stupid things. they have a liberal bias. "we create our own reality"
watertiger banging her head on the desk
-
"NOES! SHOW ME FLOWERS! WANT!"
CATS AND FLOWERS!!
I bet that fan could go for a glass of motherfuckin orange juice
Get a Vornado Zippi for $20. Elevate your laptop slightly with 4 little blocks or whatever you can find. Position the Zippi behind the laptop, sending a stream of air under it, and you'll be better off than you'd be with any laptop fan.
Sorry if this is a repeat:
You can't find da Pope in da White House.
BWAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
A Nazi won't break bread with a fascisti war criminal.
BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
Those folks at that town meeting in Terre Haute yesterday didn't seem too offended.
"So Obama broke the golden rule and he stopped pretending that everything is rosy and everyone is happy and well off. |"
fuck - you mean this isn't the greatest country on earth??
"Wishing Well" is a good song and holds up well to this day.
SteveLG
"Sign Your Name" remains a classic...
i dont know much about tiger, but jordan was pretty much great at everything. i suspect tiger can do more than putt--isnt he a great driver as well?
How is telling the truth an "insult"?
You know how wingers are about reality.
They regard it as a personal attack.
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash
They doan like reality.
They prefer to make their own little dream world.
Pisses them off that the rest of us won't join them in those bubbles.
yes, yes, i know, macs never break.
Atrios
Yes, yes, we know this is sarcasm, but I'll say this: when they do break, if you bought AppleCare, they fix it pretty well.
I think, for what it's worth, that the fan repair is not difficult nor costly. You should see if there is a mom 'n pop shop that does this sort of thing in your neighborhood. We've got two, run by brilliant Chinese theoretical physicists (and no I am not making this up.)
watertiger banging her head on the desk
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MisterX
OK, I watched that five times.
Send help.
OK -- back from supper -- I would tell you what it was, but I couldn't figure it out -- a sandwich made of something with some pickled pears on the side -- now I'm supposed to go off to recreation, but I would like to say that Obama keeps saying things that are true & being criticized for it & I like him more & more as a result (frustrated Edwardian -- I wish Elizabeth could have been president!)
So Obama broke the golden rule and he stopped pretending that everything is rosy and everyone is happy and well off.
We were saying basically this last night. The Villagers have come to think that the rule that serfs not discuss their abject serfdom also applied to them. They truly have no idea how angry we are. If we were not already for Obama, we'd be for him just for this.
fuck - you mean this isn't the greatest country on earth??
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
"We're Number One!!"
Love it or leave it!
"Send help."
a saint bernard is bringing you a keg of rum as we speak.
i dont know much about tiger, but jordan was pretty much great at everything. i suspect tiger can do more than putt--isnt he a great driver as well?
pretzelattack
He can do everything. Incredibly creative player, too.
Those folks at that town meeting in Terre Haute yesterday didn't seem too offended.
They can be easily dismissed as cult followers and therefore as insignificant.
"So Obama broke the golden rule and he stopped pretending that everything is rosy and everyone is happy and well off. |"
fuck - you mean this isn't the greatest country on earth??
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher
How dare he say that the US of A isn't the goodest and the bestest place in the whole wide world!
I would like to say that Obama keeps saying things that are true & being criticized for it & I like him more & more as a result (frustrated Edwardian -- I wish Elizabeth could have been president!)
Prior Aelred
Join the club!
Aw, jdw, them kitties are the cutest. I'd forgotten that ol' Sack of Hammers was yours, I thought he was one of the Daves around here. I have a special fondness for the sack o' hammers kind of not too bright kitties. My daughter's black & white Molly is of that ilk.
Totally obtuse.
I'M MORE BITTER THEN BITTERS.
"We're Number One!!"
Love it or leave it!
/breaks out over-sized novelty foam pointing finger thing, starts waving it at al Qaeda
Fucking Phil Mickelson!
"Love it or leave it!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s...h?v=sWS-
FoXbjVI
Love it or leave it!
DuaneV, AtriosiousBehavior
Nah.
I'd rather stay and piss off the mouthbreathers.
They hate it when people disagree with them.
I just watched Obama's response to the "gaffe" and it is awesome.
He is capable of kicking major ass.
(I did caucus for Hillary)
didnt mean to offend at suggesting michael couldnt play ball or tiger golf. great at what they do or did, just that they could have made a difference but were afraid of pissing of a few republicans. jordon admitted as much.
They can be easily dismissed as cult followers and therefore as insignificant.
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash
Just like his whole "following", which is about to put him in the White House.
"I have a special fondness for the sack o' hammers kind of not too bright kitties."
he gets much brighter when it's time for his pill
"We've got two, run by brilliant Chinese theoretical physicists (and no I am not making this up.)"
Great, you go in for a battery replacement and come out with a laptop powered by the energy from a harnessed singularity.
Make sure it is a Mac though, A BSOD in that circumstance is not a good thing.
The Pope's people knew how to win a battle, run an occupation and draw operations to a close promptly to get on with the next conquest. The French and Dutch Resistance were jokes compared to the Mahdi Army.
What really puts a hair up the collective ass of the Powers That Be is that Obama's remarks verge on the long-dreaded spectre of Class Warfare.
Tiger is the driver. He's the guy that turned old par 5's into par 3's. Augusta was completely redesigned because of his abilities
He is capable of kicking major ass.
(I did caucus for Hillary)
racymind
I voted for her in the primary.
Obama's THE JOINT.
How dare he say that the US of A isn't the goodest and the bestest place in the whole wide world!
Terry C, Obama 08 | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 7:04 pm | #
the patriotism of people like toby
or jonah goldberg consists of loudly supporting their version of what america is. that's all they have to do. they dont have to sacrifice any personal comfort.
"NOES! SHOW ME FLOWERS! WANT!"
CATS AND FLOWERS!!
jdw | 04.12.08 - 7:02 pm | #
They live!
I love blue flowers. In teh desert, summer is always marked by flowers of yellow and red and orange - that's one quick way of telling whether they'll survive the season - but blue flowers are special and rare. The best I can seem to manage are salvia and occasionally some lobelia tucked into a shady spot. Not enough.
Must go out and give everybody a drink.
"/breaks out over-sized novelty foam pointing finger thing, starts waving it at al Qaeda"
((spew))
Last night in NYC I played mini golf while drinking 16 year old scotch.
A reasonable person above said that Obama's "bitter" was a poor word choice.
OK, maybe. Would you accept "angry" and "disappointed" and "unhappy" and "despairing" and "desperate"?
It remains to be seen how McBush leapfrogs over all that. I don't think it's possible.
Obama saying people are conservative because they are stupid, poor and bitter makes me thik he needs an IQ test.
People being upset with the government when the economy isn't good leads to voting on gay marriage as much as smoking pot leads to heroin.
He isn't some idiot on a message board spewing shit out his ass, he is a politician who needs to get people to vote for him, not alienate people he thinks are bitter.
Those folks at that town meeting in Terre Haute yesterday didn't seem too offended.
if you live in Terre Haute, it takes a lot to offend you.
The MSM is playing it as Obama's gaffe.
Anyone who isn't bitter hasn't been paying attention, or earns more than a million a year.
DDerbes, writin' demon
Gee, that pretty much sums up the pundit class, doesn't it?
CATS AND FLOWERS!!
Hey, those are some pussies!
re: Macs -- Not trying to start a war or anything, but I'm as hard on a laptop as a person could be, and I'm not kidding. I drag these poor bastards everywhere, up and down stairs several times a day, on road trips, in airplanes, on the deck, in the car ... I'm more or less attached to them at the hip.
And in spite of [unfortunate cocktail-spilling incident redacted] I'm still using the one I got in 8/04 as a backup and the one we got when [u c-s i r] most of the time. If they break, you can fix them.
"Would you accept "angry" and "disappointed" and "unhappy" and "despairing" and "desperate"?"
I'd go with fucking pissed off.
actually despair is probably the closest, sad to say.
Obama saying people are conservative because they are stupid, poor and bitter makes me thik he needs an IQ test.
Makes YOU think so?
"They live!"
YEAH!!!! as i was taking pics and downloading and editing and posting and working my fingahs to the bone, i says to myself, "self, buckeye better show up to sees these kittahs or there will be major consternation."
What really puts a hair up the collective ass of the Powers That Be is that Obama's remarks verge on the long-dreaded spectre of Class Warfare.
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash
You mean that the proles might become aware somebody has been waging war on them, and it's time to fight back?
Yup.
And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
I suppose I'm in the minority--I think that is a somewhat unfair remark.
Great, you go in for a battery replacement and come out with a laptop powered by the energy from a harnessed singularity.
EkCenTriK
They're theorists. No danger of singularities.
Oh, you might get a lecture on the generalized Ward-Takahashi identities, or the BRS transformations, but otherwise, you're safe.
Obama saying people are conservative because they are stupid, poor and bitter makes me think he needs an IQ test.
I'd say he just passed.
Gee, that pretty much sums up the pundit class, doesn't it?
Dr. Wu
Why, yes, yes it does. Thank you, sir!
Obama saying people are conservative because they are stupid, poor and bitter makes me think he needs an IQ test.
I'd say he just passed.
Dr. Wu
What really puts a hair up the collective ass of the Powers That Be is that Obama's remarks verge on the long-dreaded spectre of Class Warfare.
Sufferin'
What class is he supporting?
He isn't some idiot on a message board spewing shit out his ass
That's true, he isn't.
You are, though.
What really puts a hair up the collective ass of the Powers That Be is that Obama's remarks verge on the long-dreaded spectre of Class Warfare.
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash
I have to wonder if Edwards pushed him in this direction.
I suppose I'm in the minority--I think that is a somewhat unfair remark.
Did you think that before the campaign when everyone at Eschaton said that exact same thought in not those words to explain Buchanan?
And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
I suppose I'm in the minority--I think that is a somewhat unfair remark.
abyssgazer, DraftKang
Cold water in the face might wake someone up. As with most of the gotcha games the mainstream media and Clinton Campaign plays with Obama, the people who support him won't care, and the people who are offended weren't voting for him anyway.
the patriotism of people like toby
or jonah goldberg consists of loudly supporting their version of what america is. that's all they have to do. they dont have to sacrifice any personal comfort.
pretzelattack
I think it was Al Franken who compared these UBER-patriot types to four year olds and their mommies.
Mommy is perfect and has no faults whatsoever.
Adults see things differently.
OK, maybe. Would you accept "angry" and "disappointed" and "unhappy" and "despairing" and "desperate"?
Yes, but I suppose it's a bit more than word choice. It's also the presumption that this group of people are monolithic in their beliefs.
What class is he supporting?
What a stupid question,
I suppose I'm in the minority--I think that is a somewhat unfair remark.
abyssgazer, DraftKang
What about it appears unfair to you? I'd like to know, because I've been assuming that the objections have been driven by the Liberal Media.
It remains to be seen how McBush leapfrogs over all that. I don't think it's possible.
there are millions of people in this country who think that anything short of "It's Morning in America" is treasonous.
the media loves the taste of McCain's cock. In order to get around that, Obama will have to find a way to bypass them and go straight to the people.
I would feel a lot better about our chances in this election if Rove were in jail.
the people who support him won't care, and the people who are offended weren't voting for him anyway.
DuaneV
Well so long as it's ok to offend those who aren't voting for you.
Now shut up about Mccain. Kthnx.
"They live!"
YEAH!!!! as i was taking pics and downloading and editing and posting and working my fingahs to the bone, i says to myself, "self, buckeye better show up to sees these kittahs or there will be major consternation."
jdw | 04.12.08 - 7:09 pm
And if I hadn't, I would have whined: Where are they?!
What a stupid question,
Terry
No answer?
What class is he supporting?
annie
Well, let's see. The Bin Ladens didn't keep buying him Playskool Oil Kompany sets to break; his daddy doesn't have an estate in Maine; he doesn't own a compound in Paraguay; his grandfather wasn't a Nazi war profiteer; and his wife didn't describe the opportunity for Katrina refugees to sleep on cots in the Astrodome as "working out pretty well for them." Why don't you take a guess?
I have to wonder if Edwards pushed him in this direction.
V for Virginia, drinks for .go | 04.12.08 - 7:11 pm | #
John Edwards would never make such a clumsy remark.
Now shut up about Mccain. Kthnx.
Tell you what....YOU shut the fuck up.
The only people "offended" by that remark are people scared that anyone is being allowed to say such things in public.
As a PA resident, I'd just like to say that Obama got it absolutely right and with God by my side I'll blast the shit out of anyone who disagrees...
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Dr Wu,
The bitter class?
No answer?
It's not worthy of an answer.
It's a stupid question.
It's also the presumption that this group of people are monolithic in their beliefs.
That seems a bit tortuous to read that interpretation into Obama's statement.
Yes, but I suppose it's a bit more than word choice. It's also the presumption that this group of people are monolithic in their beliefs.
I just finished watching his response to all of this nonsense. He made an important point that lots of folks don't vote on economics because they think that nobody gives a shit that they're losing their jobs, or anything. So they vote on guns, gays, and god.
I just can't for the life of me see why that's so offensive or incorrect to some.
He isn't some idiot on a message board spewing shit out his ass
That's true, he isn't.
You are, though.
Sufferin' Hussein Succotash
Butler has a real way with words, doesn't he?
It's a stupid question.
Terry C, Obama 08
Turns out there is such a thing.
Hey all.
I'm bummed, my Preds got their asses kicked by the Red Wings.
And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.
I suppose I'm in the minority--I think that is a somewhat unfair remark.
abyssgazer, DraftKang
I don't think it's a nice remark, but I don't think it's unfair, or really innacurate.
And it's just not Pennsylvania, or rural Ohio, it could easily be applied to rural Serbia, or a large swath of this globe.
It's a stupid question.
Terry C, Obama 08
Turns out there is such a thing.
V for Virginia, drinks for .go
That's all that comes out of Butler.
Yes, but I suppose it's a bit more than word choice. It's also the presumption that this group of people are monolithic in their beliefs.
abyssgazer, DraftKang
Hmmm... I see where you're coming from, but there is always at least some oversimplification in political speeches. How often have we all heard "People are tired of X" or "The American public wants Y". Clearly, not everyone is tired of X or wants Y, but the speaker typically assumes that those in the audience DO want Y or want rid of X, and as a psychological ploy, attempts to include all of the public in that group.
To be blunt, I think Obama described things very accurately. I was not offended in the slightest, and I'm mostly a Hillary person. I thought it was a damn good speech.
I also am willing to bet five bucks that this is a tempest in a teapot. Many people are beginning to recognize bullshit. A little late in the game, to be sure, but better late than never.
SB, I'm a Bruins fan, so we're consigned to less-than-mediocre status until the cruel ogre that owns the team finally disappears.
A vote for Obama is a vote for Economics.
and his wife didn't describe the opportunity for Katrina refugees to sleep on cots in the Astrodome as "working out pretty well for them." Why don't you take a guess?
Dr. Wu | 04.12.08 - 7:15 pm | #
Ahem, I think it it was his battleax mom who mentioned that Katrina refugees in Houston were doing quite well.
What about it appears unfair to you? I'd like to know, because I've been assuming that the objections have been driven by the Liberal Media.
V for Virginia, drinks for .go | 04.12.08 - 7:14 pm | #
Coming from a long line of white trash, I happen to know that people have deeply held beliefs that are not necessarily the results of bitterness. The guns, the religion, etc.---these are part of the culture and are not always a negative.
I know where he was going and I don't exactly disagree, but I think it was a stupid thing to say.
OBAMA! FUCKYEAH!!
In America we aree not allowed to vote on economics.
Isn't the immigration issue economic in nature, at least mostly? The rest being how much everyone hates the criminal immigrants who bud in line and play their steroes too loud??
So, if the bitter people aren't voting on the economics of immigration what is it on?
Their antipathy of anyone different? You vote on antipathy?
Miss Anal Engine is boring me to tears...
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To be blunt, I think Obama described things very accurately. I was not offended in the slightest, and I'm mostly a Hillary person. I thought it was a damn good speech.
Ditto.
Let's hope he stands by it...
"And if I hadn't, I would have whined: Where are they?!"
:LOL:
the good news is that i got a new camera this week and have shot about 500 cat pics. the bad news is i dunno when the next time i'll be able to take time to post new ones.
I also am willing to bet five bucks that this is a tempest in a teapot.
DDerbes, writin' demon
My impression from the get-go, lo these many internet eons ago (Thursday?), was that this was an orange-juice deal.
Who in the fuck, hearing that Obama had an oj instead of coffee, would have drawn any conclusion about his "elitism" from it?
Ditto the remark about bitterness. It's not like the speech was published in full in newspapers throughout the land and the populace fired up the torches; Certain Serious People™ had Thoughts about it that resounded through the nation.
What am I saying, it's all you vote on.
Hello beautiful people,
I posted this earlier but it's too good to let slip away unnoticed. And check out the photos at the link (if you're not at work, that is!)
Giuseppe Verdi, one might think, is hard to mess up. But a theater in the eastern German city of Erfurt seems to be doing its best. In a re-interpretation of the opera "A Masked Ball," which opens on Saturday, director Johann Kresnik has hit upon a dramatic novelty: His staging has naked pensioners wearing Mickey Mouse masks, wandering around the ruins of New York's World Trade Center.
http://www.spiegel.de/
internatio...,546635,00.html
"And if I hadn't, I would have whined: Where are they?!"
:LOL:
the good news is that i got a new camera this week and have shot about 500 cat pics. the bad news is i dunno when the next time i'll be able to take time to post new ones.
jdw | 04.12.08 - 7:22 pm | #
What kind of camera?
Coming from a long line of white trash, I happen to know that people have deeply held beliefs that are not necessarily the results of bitterness. The guns, the religion, etc.---these are part of the culture and are not always a negative.
I think you are off just a touch. The guns, gods and gays are not the results of bitterness. The bitterness is still because of the economics is what Barack says. The bitterness on economic issues makes people fall back on the other issues they honestly have in their lives, whether or not they are the result of bitterness.
Gaslight Justice League.
the goddamn k&y
Very Nice...
I think I need to start drinking for the evening.
Who in the fuck, hearing that Obama had an oj instead of coffee, would have drawn any conclusion about his "elitism" from it?
Only someone looking desperately for an excuse to call him "elitist".
Hubby is reading Extraordinary Circumstances about the collapse of Worldcom. He's just gotten to the point where Bernie Evers is fired, and he got 1.5 million dollars a year for life after he was fired.
Now what happens to all of the people that Obama was talking to when they get fired or laid off? Maybe there is something to what he says about them being bitter and angry.
I wonder how they feel about the billions and billions of dollars of wealthfare that the government is giving banks and mortgage lending companies to save them while the people are being thrown out of their houses? I wonder if that would make them bitter or angry?
These people are converting to religion because the Dem Congress has failed to stop the war criminal Bush.
I think I need to start drinking for the evening.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas
Let me set up the camera.
(not really... hug and kiss to Zap)
Racy has captured what OB said and as he has explained it.
Frustration about economic turmoil leads to reliance on time-tested traditions, including guns, and religion, and family, and ....whatever.
I think you can find much of it in Deerhunter.
Dr Wu,
The bitter class?
annie
You bet yer ass.
(And yes, I mis-typed earlier; it was the sainted Babs and not the Laurabot who made fun of Katrina refugees).
I can't wait for some more lectures about how elitist Obama is by the salt of the earth types like Hillary, Bomb Iran John McCain and the MSNBC all-stars.
When I want to know what the heartbeat of America is I listen to Chris Matthews.
-GSD
I know where he was going and I don't exactly disagree, but I think it was a stupid thing to say.
abyssgazer, DraftKang
I think your heritage is very similar to mine, but I interpret the motivations of my ancestors and family differently. In fact, applied to my family, Obama's observations were pretty accurate.
Maybe you're right; there might have been a gentler/more PC way to say it. But this is a conversation we need to have.
I'm not stereotyping everyone, but you and I both live in the south, and you know those people are out there. And also Out There.
We've had twenty years of Limbaugh and his ilk telling everyone that all that goes wrong is the fault of either immigrants or foreigners or blacks or uppity women. It has been an intentional program to spread a certain kind of populism, one which never looks at the rich, say.
Thanks, racy! I think that I'm all photoed oot.
Dr Wu,
The bitter class?
annie
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I actually like that!!!! What a great moniker. I'm a member of that class!!!
watertiger banging her head on the desk
Hey, CoT, sending you mail.
I'm buying, Zap.
Bushmills here and Grouse.
or white wine.
yes, its a very weird populism that never looks at the rich. i dont think teddy roosevelt would recognize it.
Schweet, peterboy! I'll take a Bushmills.
Out for some time. Best wishes to all, and if NTodd, Res, Athenae or Sinf show up, tell 'em I said hi.
Who in the fuck, hearing that Obama had an oj instead of coffee, would have drawn any conclusion about his "elitism" from it?
The American people have an insatiable appetite for horseshit.
Count up the number of people who vote however their preacher tells them to vote; add the number of people who vote however the NRA tells them to vote; add the number of people who vote for whoever Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly tell them to vote for; add the number of people who will vote for McCain because they think they're "supporting the troops". Add in the people who think that John McCain deserves to be president because he was a POW.
My mother, who is a few credit hours and a thesis short of an Ed.D., still thinks Hillary Clinton is a "socialist", and can hardly think of a worse name to call someone than that.
There are people in this country who still believe that marijuana is a gateway drug, that God hates gay people, and that the universe was created in six days in 4004 BC.
An insatiable appetite for horseshit.
The moment the subject of economic justice or parity is broached the gatekeepers scream bloody murder about class warfare...then they start bitching about welfare queens.
-GSD
John McCain calls Obama "elitist," and he owns 8 houses.
The Would - Be Emperor Maverick McCrazy wears no clothes...
Who in the mainstream media will call him on it?
You kids remember this fabulous cover?
Does McAnus really own eight houses?
John McCain calls Obama "elitist," and he owns 8 houses.
Shaw Kenawe
And he's never held a private-sector job.
The bitterness on economic issues makes people fall back on the other issues they honestly have in their lives, whether or not they are the result of bitterness.
racymind | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 7:24 pm | #
Ah, but so many of the examples he gave were negative. We can disagree here, but I know a lot of people who would be put off that his remarks.
Having said that, it wasn't like he said it in a speech--it was just a casual remark and those don't always come out the way we intend.
John McCain calls Obama "elitist," and he owns 8 houses.
Shaw Kenawe
Yeah, but maybe they're all "regular guy" houses!
Out for some time. Best wishes to all, and if NTodd, Res, Athenae or Sinf show up, tell 'em I said hi.
DDerbes, writin' demon
Kiss ass.
McCain said he was fine if we are in Iraq for another 100 years.
Americans hate the Iraq war...that and the economy.
You aren't talking about his little 'camp' in Arizona that the had the media cookout at?
It's just a country cabin, with a guest house.
-GSD
Having said that, it wasn't like he said it in a speech--it was just a casual remark and those don't always come out the way we intend.
abyssgazer, DraftKang
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Kan...g_the_Conqueror
We'd all be better off.
The American people have an insatiable appetite for horseshit.
Also, the American people need to be continuously told that they're THE GREATEST, that the country is THE GREATEST, that their wars are THE GREATEST.
Politicians have to talk to the American people the way that the rest of the world talks to 10 year olds.
When a politician says something real, as Obama did in his "bitter" speech, Americans--NO, the MSM and the political opposition GASPS:
"HOw dare you say we're not THE GREATEST?!!!!!
yes, its a very weird populism that never looks at the rich. i dont think teddy roosevelt would recognize it.
pretzelattack
When in reality, every other news story needs to mention the increasing concentration of wealth, CEO salaries, the failure of the rating agencies in the subprime mess, and the structures voted in by Congress that gives incentives to ship jobs across the borders.
The wealthy are going to have to start giving it up, just a fucking little bit. And fuck'em when paying a 5% higher marginal tax rate makes them scream bloody murder.
mccain...scarey, cranky old man.
quick trigger. bring back the daisy girl.
Mr Sadr was responding to a statement by US Defence Secretary Robert Gates, who said that all those within the political process were not enemies.
"I have no enemy but you. You are the occupier," Mr Sadr's statement said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...ast/
7344038.stm
I guess they'll just have to agree to disagree.
moreover: there are a lot of people who hate the hell out of George Bush but will still see McCain as the lesser of two evils.
what racy said.
the rich have to start running scared that the rest of us are going to balk at their privilege.
I guess I have to get to sleep sometime.
Good night, bats.
Covers you say?
I'm digging into Seu Jorge's Bowie covers in Portuguese, and placating my Inner Simels:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=U...feature=related
The wealthy are going to have to start giving it up, just a fucking little bit. And fuck'em when paying a 5% higher marginal tax rate makes them scream bloody murder.
racymind
Their only defense against being forced to pay their fair share is the "values voter" suckers who the media has been able to brainwash into voting against their own economic interests; in short, the ignorant sheep that Obama called out in his "gaffe" in Pennsylvania. That should make them at least a little bit nervous.
krugman in his book the conscience of a liberal points out that, when you take all taxes into account, the rich dont pay much more percentage wise than the middle class. everytime i hear someone whining about how tough rich people have it i break out my subatomic violin.
"I have no enemy but you. You are the occupier," Mr Sadr's statement said.
Did he say that before or after he threw the flowers?
the rich have to start running scared that the rest of us are going to balk at their privilege.
I dare say there are a number of people here who meet several definitions of "rich".
Economic revenge doesn't win elections, economic revenge wins revolutions.
I actually like that!!!! What a great moniker. I'm a member of that class!!!
You need to get with Obamanomics. He'll make your bitter sweet, he'll make you rich and then you won't even LIKE coffee anymore.
I'm digging into Seu Jorge's Bowie covers in Portuguese
Nice.
Zapette just put on Cat Power's new album. Some good, um, covers on that one.
Did he say that before or after he threw the flowers?
Dr. Wu
Only laugh I've had all day. With all this bitterness stuff.
Thanks Dr. Wu
everytime i hear someone whining about how tough rich people have it i break out my subatomic violin.
pretzelattack
They made their fortunes on the backs of American consumers and American labor, under the protection of the American rule of law and the American military. If they aren't willing to support the people and the system that enabled them to earn their wealth, they're traitors. End of story. Pay the fuck up or get the fuck out.
its not about economic revenge, its about restoring some fairness to the system.
The Kaiser visits some factory, late in the first world war, when the British blockade has every untitled German starving, and appeals to a phony sense of imperial democracy that never existed. He swears that he will stop fighting if the people want him to. In his delusional stupor he forgets himself and raises his withered arm. Observers of the incident say the workers are totally silent (they would probably be imprisoned at best if they asked the Kaiser to stop the war); the official record says they cried out "No!"
Zapette just put on Cat Power's new album. Some good, um, covers on that one.
One of Trent Reznor's favorite acts. I didn't realize she just did a covers album. Wild.
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ECONOMY, STUPID!
its not about economic revenge, its about restoring some fairness to the system.
They are the same fucking thing. The Reagan Revolution, far front fighting socialism, was all about straightforward wealth transfer from the people to a tiny parasite caste. Making things fair will require taking it the fuck back.
its not about economic revenge, its about restoring some fairness to the system.
Thank you, dear.
What pisses me off is this: when I was growing up, I was told that if I was a good girl, made good grades, went to college, and got a respectable profession (and a husband with one wouldn't hurt, either), I'd be all right. No one promised I'd be wealthy, but this seemed to come with the guarantee of being able to raise a family, eat, and live indoors.
That's all been upended now.
True elitists vote against SCHIP - health care for babies.
True elitists voted for the bankruptcy bill.
John McCain calls Obama "elitist," and he owns 8 houses.
Yeah, but Obama likes orange juice.
And Al Gore uses electricity.
And Michael Moore is fat.
The media gasbags tell me these are very important issues.
With peeps like annie hooking for McCain, this shouldn't be too hard an election to win.
Heh. But let's roll our sleeves up and do it by double digits and rub their noses in it. Search and destroy the foundations of neoconservatism.
Hey, I have a question! Why is Thurgood Marshall Jr.
endorsing CCA lawyer Gus Puryear for a federal judgeship?
The answer is sadly not surprising.
They are the same fucking thing. The Reagan Revolution, far front fighting socialism, was all about straightforward wealth transfer from the people to a tiny parasite caste. Making things fair will require taking it the fuck back.
the goddamn k&y | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 7:45 pm | #
i dont think thats revenge, i think its justice. the right wing constantly tries to frame the motivations of people that fight the system in a way that denigrates their character. whistleblowers become "disgruntled employees". people that resent the way the wealthy have gamed the system are "envious". i dont think we need to accept labels like that.
The son and grandson of admirals, John McCain calls Obama "elitist," and he owns 8 houses.
Shaw Kenawe
Fixed your typo.
Should've posted this earlier..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=V...feature=related
Hey, CoT, sending you mail.
watertiger
Got it - give me awhile, I'm in the middle of my taxes.
fuck'em when paying a 5% higher marginal tax rate
notice whenever tweets and his ilk bring up the tax issue -- they always lie and distort it, leaving viewers with the impression that the middle class is going to take the hit; when the proposals are for bigger increases against higher wage earners. they curiously fail to make that distinction. i wonder why.
i dont think we need to accept labels like that.
Small town folk are bitter and hate immigrants and shoot guns in Church and hate gays.
Every single one of them. Cookie cutter class.
What pisses me off is this: when I was growing up, I was told that if I was a good girl, made good grades, went to college, and got a respectable profession (and a husband with one wouldn't hurt, either), I'd be all right. No one promised I'd be wealthy, but this seemed to come with the guarantee of being able to raise a family, eat, and live indoors.
That's all been upended now.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
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What pisses me off is the lectures from the neocons about how this is all the fault of the people who are suffering, when they've been playing against a stacked deck.
I love the lecture Paulson gave the other day, about how we shouldn't blame Bear Stearns for their stupidity and greed, while he's handing them OUR money!!!! WEALTHFARE, plain and simple!!!!
owns 8 houses.
Shaw Kenawe
and iirc, has his own private plane courtesy of the wife.
They are the same fucking thing. The Reagan Revolution, far front fighting socialism, was all about straightforward wealth transfer from the people to a tiny parasite caste. Making things fair will require taking it the fuck back.
the goddamn k&y
Fuckin A, k&y! Well said.
And good afternoon, Atriots. Go Habs Go!
Shit...I forgot to pour my drink!
Man, blue corn enchiladas for dinner (local mexican place).
Wealthfare!
its not about economic revenge, its about restoring some fairness to the system.
I think you are missing my point. I'm not saying that any of this isn't true, or that any of it is not justified.
What I am saying is that if you go around saying things like that, that will not help elect the people who will fix things.
That's all been upended now.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 04.12.08 - 7:45 pm | #
exactly! when i was growing up, that social contract wasnt extended to minorities. in the 60s, it seemed like the american dream would be extended to everyone, the way it should be. now, it's more like everyone below a certain class is being marginalized. granted, some much more than others, but john edwards 2 nation message really resonated with me.
Hey, CoT, sending you mail.
watertiger
Got it - give me awhile, I'm in the middle of my taxes.
Culture Of Truth | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 7:49 pm |
That sounds dirty.
Michael just took care of bidness of the Godfather. Carlo ought not make any long range plans.
Hell yeah we're envious and we honestly hope that every executive's child who had a tutor to get into a special pre-school gets lynched and burns in hell.
its not about economic revenge, its about restoring some fairness to the system.
pretzelattack
Well, yeah. It's about people rejecting the wonderful pony stories of the Limbaugh Con and understanding the zero-sumness of many aspects of wealth. The more some people have of certain commodities -- land, homes, water, boats with 3 500-HP engines -- the less there is of some things for everyone else. No one objects to the idea of wealth, but it can get to a point where the accumulation of wealth occurs at the expense of others.
People have been indoctrinated to think that what's good for CEOs who make ginormous bonuses while laying off workers and running companies into the ground is good for them. And it's not. These people get rich because other people get poorer.
Tell me that's why the Founders got off their asses.
If they aren't willing to support the people and the system that enabled them to earn their wealth, they're traitors. End of story. Pay the fuck up or get the fuck out.
Dr. Wu
Add to the list corporate criminal liability. Bush's Injustice Department has stopped enforcing the law, where corporations are concerned.
Anybody still around with keys to this joint? This thread is getting stunk up with a certain ugly troll.
We've had twenty years of Limbaugh and his ilk telling everyone that all that goes wrong is the fault of either immigrants or foreigners or blacks or uppity women. It has been an intentional program to spread a certain kind of populism, one which never looks at the rich, say.
This, I think, is the element that's missing from Obama's speech and the popularizers of, for example, the works of Thomas Frank and of Kevin Phillips.
People don't just "fall back on" certain issue or comfortable identities in response to economic hardship. People are encouraged to ignore the construction of their economic hardship by invested interests who appeal to people's other concerns.
In Ohio, where about one in 482 homes in Ohio is currently being foreclosed, the industry is thriving. Pay day loan centers are opening everywhere you look. In fact, the Center for Responsible Lending says in the State of Ohio pay day loan centers now outnumber Burger Kings, Wendy's and McDonalds combined.
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?...=4641165&
page=1
'We take it our way.'
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As much as we want Michael Chertoff to die in a horrible car accident, his latest words have us merely wishing he'd speak through a public secretary (like "the Mouth of Chertoff" or something). Michael Chertoff wants you "to stand it up and go warm on it."
Now what happens to all of the people that Obama was talking to when they get fired or laid off? Maybe there is something to what he says about them being bitter and angry.
And curiously, the manufactured OUTRAGE is directed at Obama for calling them bitter, by the Corporate Media and the Self-Proclaimed Rethug White Trash Spokespeople. We couldn't possibly have the media address their shitty economic conditions and WHY they are bad, because that might raise uncomfortable questions about the dominant MURKA IS THA GRATEST ideology. Just hammer a candidate who dares point out that not all is well as 'elitist'.
Anybody still around with keys to this joint? This thread is getting stunk up with a certain ugly troll.
helena handbasket
There was never a more easily ignored troll than "annie," and (s)he seems content to chatter idly to (him)herself.
The American people have an insatiable appetite for horseshit.
That is plainly true of most of us who post on blogs.
Well, Fickleson does it again.
Murka is such a shitty country that the only way you can not hate it is if you are, like a Nazi or a Soviet or a subject of some Latin American dictatorship, constantly reinforcing that it is the greatest.
. Just hammer a candidate who dares point out that not all is well as 'elitist'.
Kyle
Orange juice is the greatest threat to America in modern times.
You know it's true.
People don't just "fall back on" certain issue or comfortable identities in response to economic hardship. People are encouraged to ignore the construction of their economic hardship by invested interests who appeal to people's other concerns.
Homosexual Activist
Obama has said this very thing on numerous occasions and in his response to McCain and Clinton he takes the opportunity to smooth out some of the rough edges in his extemporaneous remarks.
Very effectively, IMO.
And curiously, the manufactured OUTRAGE is directed at Obama for calling them bitter, by the Corporate Media and the Self-Proclaimed Rethug White Trash Spokespeople. We couldn't possibly have the media address their shitty economic conditions and WHY they are bad, because that might raise uncomfortable questions about the dominant MURKA IS THA GRATEST ideology. Just hammer a candidate who dares point out that not all is well as 'elitist'.
Kyle
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It is in the elitist's interests(the media as well as the other politicians and big business) to make sure no one reminds the people suffering that they are unhappy and that it can be fixed. They don't want anyone telling the people that perhaps golden parachutes and CEO's making 100's of times what workers make isn't a good thing for America.
Why do people use that ridiculous capcha recognition thing on blogs? It's so annoying; half the time I can't read the stupid capcha letters to begin with.
Do people really need it to avoid spam? How does Atrios avoid it?
Smedley Butler, Meet John Perkins
By Russell Mokhiber
and Robert Weissman
Remember Smedley Butler?
He was perhaps the most decorated Major General in Marine Corps history. In the early part of this century, he fought and killed for the United States around the world. Butler was awarded two Congressional Medals of Honor. Then, when he returned to the United States he wrote a book titled "War is a Racket" which opens with the memorable lines: "War is a racket. It always has been." "I was a high class muscleman for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers," Butler said. "In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism."
In a speech in 1933, Butler said the following: "I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested."
Smedley Butler, meet John Perkins.
http://www.zmag.org/sustainers/c...er-
weissman.cfm
My old HP laptop had a pretty noisy fan. The Toshiba satellite, not so much.
the day that George Bush admitted that he knew about the secret meetings on torture, the news media decided to focus on the orange juice scandal.
this country is screwed.
Orange juice is the greatest threat to America in modern times.
If I could blogwhore for Kenosha Kid, Republicans should worry about pizza!
canz we grows bananas now?
Do people really need it to avoid spam? How does Atrios avoid it?
generally you see CAPTCHAs where it is important to verify that the client is a human being.
here, it doesn't matter.
I just filed my god damned taxes, which included a deduction for replacing the motherboard on a desktop. I have a love/hate relationship with taxes and computers.
If there are no bitter angry people, who the heck is watching Lou Dobbs's show?
Smedley Butler
This is a real person?
What mother looks at her newborn infant and says, "we shall name him Smedley!"
Whomever runs A&E really digs Mafia stuff.
If there are no bitter angry people, who the heck is watching Lou Dobbs's show?
Melanie Bowers and Michelle Malkin.
What mother looks at her newborn infant and says, "we shall name him Smedley!"
MGen Butler, I believe, was named after his great-grandfather.
Mitigating the Fan Disaster:
I have my computer on stilts -- just a plastic Diet Coke bottle cap on each of my laptop's little pads that it stands on. This way the air can circulate underneath. This was OK for a while, and then my fan actually died, so now I have a normal table fan pointed at the overheating part in a way that allows air to flow, and while that means I can only use my computer at home and in my office (oh, an external keyboard and mouse are a necessity since otherwise your hands will get cold), it does mean I can use my computer.
Alternatively, they sell these cooling pads at Best Buy that you can put under your computer; I head they're pretty inexpensive.
A half-hour later, Zap finally pours his drink.
And his lovely wife his "google-earthing" all of the places in Scotland she'd like to go.
here, it doesn't matter.
I, Robot?
MGen Butler, I believe, was named after his great-grandfather.
Barndog, not currently fishing |
Dude, that just pushes the same question back a couple of generations.
Atrios, I was wondering if you had heard about these 2 stories that directly affect the PA primary. The first even specifically concerns Philly:
http://www.latimes.com/news/
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/pol...-
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What mother looks at her newborn infant and says, "we shall name him Smedley!"
I had a buddy in high school whose father named him "Reo", after his favorite truck.
MGen Butler, I believe, was named after his great-grandfather.
I wager he had a nickname, like "Skippy" or "Biffy" or "Chip."
Dude, that just pushes the same question back a couple of generations
Marines are kind of like that, historically speaking.
Orange juice is the greatest threat to America in modern times.
You know it's true.
V for Virginia, drinkin4.gov
That isn't what this lady says:
So it’s the death knell for this country. I honestly think it’s the biggest threat even, that our nation has, even more so than terrorism or Islam which I think is a big threat, okay. Because what’s happening now, they’re going after, in schools, two year olds. You know what they’re trying to get early childhood education? They want to get our young children into the government schools so they can indoctrinate them. I taught school for close to 20 years and we’re not teaching facts and knowledge anymore, folks, we’re teaching indoctrination. Okay?
That's an OK state rep talking about homosexuals.
Mitigating the Fan Disaster:
I have my computer on stilts -- just a plastic Diet Coke bottle cap on each of my laptop's little pads that it stands on.
I do the same. Have done since an old laptop pretty much toasted itself.
Obama has said this very thing on numerous occasions and in his response to McCain and Clinton he takes the opportunity to smooth out some of the rough edges in his extemporaneous remarks.
The main thrust of that bit seems to be that people don't vote on economic issues because "they don't think that anyone is going to help them," so they "take refuge" in other issues, "the things they can count on."
I think that's mistaken. It's just as likely that people don't vote on economic issues because the economic issues are entirely and intentionally obscured as issues in political campaigns.
Oh, my bad... it's MGen Smedley Lamar Butler, USMC.
just a plastic Diet Coke bottle cap on each of my laptop's little pads that it stands on.
Hm... has to be Diet?
I have a love/hate relationship with taxes and computers.
Hm... has to be Diet?
SteveLG | 04.12.08 - 8:10 pm | #
technical reasons.
Fucking tags. Let's try that again:
I have a love/hate relationship with taxes and computers.
Economic stimulus rebate, bitches!!! $1200!
That's an OK state rep talking about homosexuals.
Jesus Christ.
Hi racymind! 
I am running on reserve power and will have to go soon to recharge.
However, let me again ask why Democrat Thurgood Marhsall Jr. is endorsing Bush's judicial pick "Gus" Puryear. Do you think the fact that he's on the CCA board has something to do with it?
I taught school for close to 20 years and we’re not teaching facts and knowledge anymore, folks, we’re teaching indoctrination. Okay?
That's an OK state rep talking about homosexuals.
racymind
Geez, she had me up to homosexuals.
Well, isn't this awkward. Sort of like that moment in the airport john when someone sits in the stall next to you and you're afraid to be the 1st one to go.
"I have a love/hate relationship with taxes and computers."
--sidhra
I'm going to file an extension, like I always do. Owning your own business does help with some things, but not health insurance, vacations, sick days, and employer contributions to your retirement plan. Having said that, I'm not sure why I have done this all these years.
Smedley's middle name was LAMAR?
That's worse!!!! It's like a Mel Brooks comdey!
Was there a number after his last name, too? Smedley Lamar Butler IV?
That's an OK state rep talking about homosexuals.
She's got Michele Bachmann's cliff notes.
I just filed my god damned taxes, which included a deduction for
replacing the motherboard on a desktop. Hey! I'm just about to file my g-d taxes which included a deduction for replacing two major molars! Taxes, dentistry, charity - hard to disentangle things.
And I finished painting the louvered doors without ONE SINGLE ONE OF U PEOPLE HELPING. So there. Ur out of the will. And neither svenska brisket nor doughnuts for AnyBody.
hi sidhra!
The OK state rep prefaced those remarks I quoted with:
"” Okay, and I’m not ‘anti.’ I’m not gay bashing…” "
Well, that's good enough for me...
Because what’s happening now, they’re going after, in schools, two year olds.
That's an OK state rep talking about homosexuals.
WTF are these pants-pissing fundie redneck ninnies so afraid of? They're so conditioned to living in fear, obeying authority and not thinking for themselves that they imagine everyone else is as easily-led as they are, and that any mention of tolerance will turn their kid into Liberace. Or Larry Craig.
I honestly think it’s the biggest threat even, that our nation has
But for the seemingly limitless supply of would-be immigrants at our door, we would no doubt soon be (in fact in some ways already are) facing the problem staring China, Italy, and much of Western Europe in the face: failure to bear children at the rate necessary to sustain the current level of population.
And that's a HETEROSEXUAL problem. Straight people are taking too many contraceptives, and not having enough sex.
And, as a childless American, I am a fucking hypocrite. So there.
The main thrust of that bit seems to be that people don't vote on economic issues because "they don't think that anyone is going to help them," so they "take refuge" in other issues, "the things they can count on."
I think that's mistaken. It's just as likely that people don't vote on economic issues because the economic issues are entirely and intentionally obscured as issues in political campaigns.
Homosexual Activist
As Senator Obama recently stated:
Like the anger within the black community, these resentments aren't always expressed in polite company. But they have helped shape the political landscape for at least a generation. Anger over welfare and affirmative action helped forge the Reagan Coalition. Politicians routinely exploited fears of crime for their own electoral ends. Talk show hosts and conservative commentators built entire careers unmasking bogus claims of racism while dismissing legitimate discussions of racial injustice and inequality as mere political correctness or reverse racism.
Just as black anger often proved counterproductive, so have these white resentments distracted attention from the real culprits of the middle class squeeze - a corporate culture rife with inside dealing, questionable accounting practices, and short-term greed; a Washington dominated by lobbyists and special interests; economic policies that favor the few over the many. And yet, to wish away the resentments of white Americans, to label them as misguided or even racist, without recognizing they are grounded in legitimate concerns - this too widens the racial divide, and blocks the path to understanding.
This is where we are right now. It's a racial stalemate we've been stuck in for years.
...dude has thought this stuff through, y'know? He isn't just making shit up off the cuff.
Economic stimulus rebate, bitches!!! $1200!
For me, not so much, but nearly a wash with what I owe the Feds. And the State 'o Maine owes me!
Smedley's middle name was LAMAR?
No - Darlington. Lamar was an error.
sidrah
mer
and sign it,
the manufactured OUTRAGE is directed at Obama for calling them bitter, by the Corporate Media and the Self-Proclaimed Rethug White Trash Spokespeople. We couldn't possibly have the media address their shitty economic conditions and WHY they are bad
All these people so ready to "defend" the working class values attacked by Obama, are full of shit. Where were these so called "champions of the working class" all these years, as their standard of living declined so precipitously?
Obama's being criticized for speaking the truth to these people, about the fact that they've been betrayed by all the "free" market loving, elitist shitwads right now trying to betray them again, into voting against Obama, and their own best interests..
4 out of 5 Terrorist recommend the USA elect Hussein Obama President.
4 out of 5 Terrorist recommend the USA elect Hussein Obama President.
You conducted the poll yourself, coward?
...dude has thought this stuff through, y'know? He isn't just making shit up off the cuff.
SteveLG
What's the plan when President Obamas actions don't match his words? Have you given that any thought?
And curiously, the manufactured OUTRAGE is directed at Obama for calling them bitter
in my rare moments of optimism, i've been wondering if this time around the incessant yammering about bullshit by tweets, et al, isn't gonna backfire in the long run. polls showed the wright thing didn't have any impact; and hillary's still got significant support despite the months' long verbal assault against any and all things clinton. despite all that, both their numbers remain fairly consistent.
the media already has extremely low approval numbers -- curious how that's never cited, isn't it. people seem to be getting a clue about how they blow up these insignificant issues when so many people are dealing with real crises.
Mitigating the Fan Disaster:
don't own cats, vacuum.
Smedley's middle name was LAMAR?
You're thinking of Hedley Lamarr.
” Okay, and I’m not ‘anti.’ I’m not gay bashing…”
I've been trying to remember the troll who posted here 4 or 5 years ago that inspired great hilarity with a comment that began "I'm not a homosexual myself, but.." Good times.
Oh yes. Now that this painting is done? I recognise it. It's the standard color scheme for a New Mexico Territorial house. Cream walls, high gloss white woodwork. I wish I could remember stuff consciously. I mean, I like this very much and everything, but it'd be easier if I knew I were recapitulating something rather than having to work it out from scratch. Oh well. Oldness.
Smedley's middle name was LAMAR?
No - Darlington. Lamar was an error.
I suspect that Daddy had a buddy named Smedley Darlington.
Oh, Wingnuttia!!!
"Liberal tolerance story of the day, part two:
"Again, from the indispensible World Net Daily"
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"indispensible" isn't the adjective I'd use ....
...Ur out of the will. And neither svenska brisket nor doughnuts for AnyBody.
GWPDA, you should have called Josh, I'm sure he would have helped, being your employee and all.
What's the plan when President Obamas actions don't match his words? Have you given that any thought?
Elias: Sans guns or religion.
What's the plan when President Bush's actions don't match his words? Have you given that any thought?
What's the plan when President Clinton's actions don't match her words? Have you given that any thought?
Aw, shit, stepped in it again. . .
Elias: Sans guns or religion.
What's the plan when President Obamas actions don't match his words? Have you given that any thought?
Elias: Sans guns or religion. |
You know, Elias... sometimes you are such a fucking pissant.
I suppose if President Obama's actions don't match his words I'll... I'll... I'll be very disappointed.
wtf?
4 out of 5 Terrorist recommend the USA elect Hussein Obama President.
Warriors for McCain
didn't he sit out the war?
Heard that the Navy's accident rate went down 50% after he was shot down.
hey warrior, how many american planes did mccain wreck?
GWPDA, you should have called Josh, I'm sure he would have helped, being your employee and all.
Ooooooooooooooooh! I never thought!
that does, however, raise the question, in the case of the senior Senator from Tennessee:
why would you go around calling yourself "Lamar" if your first name was "Andrew"?
(Actually, he's Andrew Lamar Alexander Jr., and I imagine Daddy already had 'Andy' all staked out.)
Oops:
BAGHDAD — An $833 million Iraqi arms deal secretly negotiated with Serbia has underscored Iraq’s continuing problems equipping its armed forces, a process that has long been plagued by corruption and inefficiency.
The deal was struck in September without competitive bidding and it sidestepped anticorruption safeguards, including the approval of senior uniformed Iraqi Army officers and an Iraqi contract approval committee. Instead, it was negotiated by a delegation of 22 high-ranking Iraqi officials, without the knowledge of American commanders or many senior Iraqi leaders.
The deal drew enough criticism that Iraqi officials later limited the purchase to $236 million. And much of that equipment, American commanders said, turned out to be either shoddy or inappropriate for the military’s mission.
Once again, things go incredibly well...thanks to our meddling. USA! USA!
...dude has thought this stuff through, y'know? He isn't just making shit up off the cuff.
Where did I say he was?
What's the plan when President Obamas actions don't match his words? Have you given that any thought?
That's a lazy response. The president isn't a savior. It's up to you and everybody else to make Obama and the next congress change policy.
You're thinking of Hedley Lamarr.
yes, I was!
I'm eating nothing but pop tarts:
http://ap.google.com/article/
ALe...sH_T5gD900J9100
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — At least 23 people in 14 states have been sickened by the same strain of salmonella found in two breakfast cereals recalled by Malt-O-Meal, the federal Food and Drug Administration said Saturday.
You're thinking of Hedley Lamarr.
"How did he do such amazing stunts with such little feet?"
Hey V. Love ya. I'm out for a pint. I'm sure you kind folks can deal with the many concerns raised here.
Back in a while.
that does, however, raise the question, in the case of the senior Senator from Tennessee:
why would you go around calling yourself "Lamar" if your first name was "Andrew"?
"But I wear flannel shirts and drive a borrowed red pickup! So that proves I'm not teh gay!"
how many american planes did mccain wreck?
4 or 5 I believe. Last one over Hanoi.
Aw, shit, stepped in it again. . .
That almost addresses my ?
At least 23 people in 14 states have been sickened by the same strain of salmonella found in two breakfast cereals recalled by Malt-O-Meal, the federal Food and Drug Administration said Saturday.
As SteveLG can attest to, the entire town of Northfield, MN smells of chocolate Malt-O-Meal.
"indispensible" isn't the adjective I'd use ....
oh, I don't know. I've certainly been motivated to dispense with it for some time, but it doesn't seem to be working out.
Back in a while.
sidhra
[hugs sidhra, promises to learn to spell her nym]
Who's the bald guy with the santa beard?
McCain's first act - sending traitor c&nt Jane Fonda to Guantanamo for torturing American heroes in Hanoi.
What's the plan when President Obamas actions don't match his words? Have you given that any thought?
Democratic Congress -- for backup! Just like you guys did with the GOP Congress when Bush proved to be an idiot that was going to lock America into a quagmire in Iraq.
Oh, wait. Never mind.
"But I wear flannel shirts and drive a borrowed red pickup! So that proves I'm not teh gay!"
Southern Beale | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 8:23 pm | #
Does he press wild flowers and hang around in bars?
What breakfast cereals?
At least 23 people in 14 states have been sickened by the same strain of salmonella found in two breakfast cereals recalled by Malt-O-Meal, the federal Food and Drug Administration said Saturday.
Let me guess, it was made in China, right?
somebody called mccain a "negative ace". i think he wrecked more american planes than the red baron.
My current favorite breakfast cereal is Raisin Nut Bran.
Let me guess, it was made in China, right?
Southern Beale | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 8:25 pm | #
Nah, good clean 'murkin cereal.
It's made in Minnesota.
BAGHDAD — An $833 million Iraqi arms deal secretly negotiated with Serbia has underscored Iraq’s continuing problems equipping its armed forces, a process that has long been plagued by corruption and inefficiency.
The deal was struck in September without competitive bidding and it sidestepped anticorruption safeguards, including the approval of senior uniformed Iraqi Army officers and an Iraqi contract approval committee. Instead, it was negotiated by a delegation of 22 high-ranking Iraqi officials, without the knowledge of American commanders or many senior Iraqi leaders.
The KBR model has taken root in Iraq.
McCain's first act - sending traitor c&nt Jane Fonda to Guantanamo for torturing American heroes in Hanoi.
McCain spent more time with commies than Fonda ever did.
I recently started pouring maple syrup on my cereal. I think I need an intervention.
That almost addresses my ?
Elias: Sans guns or religion.
OK, be thick, see if I care.
What do you do when any elected official doesn't perform in office as they promised to? Blame teh Clenis?
You don't know any more than I do what either of these people will do in office.
Also, fuck off.
My current favorite breakfast cereal is Raisin Nut Bran
Someone else with good taste and health sense.
in my rare moments of optimism, i've been wondering if this time around the incessant yammering about bullshit by tweets, et al, isn't gonna backfire in the long run.
Obama is occasionally injecting some statements exhibiting actual intelligance and nuanced thought into the presidential race.
I expected the corporate media tools and most of the country to hate him for it and quickly devour his candidacy.
But maybe, possibly, this is a rare moment when the national mood is growing tired of the Phenomenal Stupid we are fed every election cycle.
God knows, after eight years of Chimp plumbing the depths, maybe Americans are ready to vote for someone intelligent, who can think and speak in complete sentences, instead of hating him for being smarter than they.
if getting tortured makes one a hero, how about those prisoners in abu ghraib? was the american military torturing heroes?
I literally look forward to eating Raisin Nut Bran in the morning and it's one of the highlights of my day.
Sad to think its like 50 50 that we'll have a 75 yo pres going through chemo and refusing to step down.
Raisin Nut Bran has the slivered almonds in it, yeah?
In internets speak, that cereal OWNS
Where did I say he was?
You didn't. I made that point all on my own.
I just thought you might find it interesting that in the most important speech (as opposed to Q&A session) of his political career, Senator Obama pretty explicitly addressed a couple of the points you seemed to think he was overlooking.
And yes, I agree that Elias's was a lazy response.
Is Raisin Nut Bran on the list?
McCain was a collaborator.
i still like grape nuts. why, its like wild hickory nuts. havent tried maple syrup on cereal, sounds good.
Sad to think its like 50 50 that we'll have a 75 yo pres going through chemo and refusing to step down.
Bjorn
Dont' worry, Bjorn. Vice President Condi Rice will be in charge.
We should be thankful to have such an adaptable troll.
I think they tried to torture him to make him leave.
Is Raisin Nut Bran on the list?
It is in my house.
It's made in Minnesota.
Zap Rowsdower, aka Habeas
We had this conversation two weeks ago.
Don't. Say. A. Word.
i still like grape nuts.
I hear many parts are edible.
Dont' worry, Bjorn. Vice President Condi Rice will be in charge.
Southern Beale | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 8:30 pm | #
Sorry, who could have expected?
Is pie here?
OMG, pie, if you are, those photos made me bawl my eyes out.
Just. delicious.
Grape Nuts?
"I can think of at least 2 things wrong with that title."
I hear many parts are edible
Like this pine cone.
Don't. Say. A. Word.
i wonder if the grapes view this as torture.
4 out of 5 Terrorist recommend the USA elect Hussein Obama President.
Warriors for McCain
I've seen so much of this sort of anti-American xenophobic crap on the wingnut blogs. Really. They are shitting themselves green over Obama's name. His name.
Keep the illegal Mexicans and throw these fucktards outta the country, as far as I'm concerned.
Beh!
Also, fuck off.
V for Virginia,
you put enough maple syrup on them, pine cones are tasty!
Americans are ready to vote for someone intelligent, who can think and speak in complete sentences, instead of hating him for being smarter than they.
Mike G
yeah. i'm esp looking forward to the debates with mccain. not only to see his true asshole self revealed -- cause you just know he can't help himself; but to see how it plays. i've noticed in several newspaper accounts that people frequently get pissed at the gossipy questions posed by the reporter; they want substance.
McCain was a collaborator.
Gomez
Yeah, here's an idea, let's start a 527 and raise some money to put ads on the TV with that info and get on 60 Minutes and then oh, I know, we could put together a documentary telling everyone about it and get it on NBC affiliates all around the country two weeks before the election!
Hah, who am I kidding, the country would never stand for it.
Our native American friends remembered to use every part of the grape nut, not just the delicious, velvety insides.
That's a lazy response. The president isn't a savior. It's up to you and everybody else to make Obama and the next congress change policy.
Homosexual Activist
My very lazy and cynical prediction:
Whether it's President Obama or President Clinton, deep into their first term, the US will still have 10s of thousands of troops and contractors occupying Iraq to "protect the embassy" and to "attack AQ." The President will announce a token troop reduction but, after another Shiite/Sunni uprising, will say that the time isn't quite right to withdraw completely.
The MSM and the liberal political elites will essentially ignore the war as it will then become a manageable "low-intensity" conflict. The Repukes will put up a token resistance saying "the Dems are losing Iraq, but it won't resonate because they will be discredited as having gotten us into the mess in the first place.
By this time, the economy will have rebounded and everyone will continue their rampant consumerism. All will be well in Wonderland.
I just thought you might find it interesting that in the most important speech (as opposed to Q&A session) of his political career, Senator Obama pretty explicitly addressed a couple of the points you seemed to think he was overlooking.
I must be typing in crayon, because I'm obviously not being clear. I was talking specifically about the "bitter" speech and what I think hit the sour note that some people outside the media heard. I have heard the "race" address, and I think I've even commented on it at this blog. Much of what he said in the earlier speech was missing from the later comments, and I think that's unfortunate.
So now the yard is wed and fed.
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I didn't get grapes or nuts when I bought that cereal. I feel ripped off.
Keep the illegal Mexicans and throw these fucktards outta the country, as far as I'm concerned.
Beh!
Shaw Kenawe | Homepage | 04.12.08 - 8:32 pm | #
The average illegal has done more work today than loud obs has in his sorry life.
When it comes to cereal, good old fashioned corn flakes still rocks.
McCain was a collaborator.
Gomez | 04.12.08 - 8:29 pm |
I'm confused, are we voting for MCCain now or is Chavez running?
"Sugar cereals stimulate the libido to dangerous levels. I suggest we offer our customers a calmative."
grape nuts helped ewell gibbons live to a vibrant ripe old age.
4 out of 5 terrorists...
I think terrorists prefer McCain. Not only will he turbocharge their recruiting efforts by continuing to fuck up Iraq, but they admire him for crashing more American planes than Al Qaeda.
Slivered almonds and delicious nut covered raisins.
Also, fuck off.
Right back attcha, toots.
now, it's more like everyone below a certain class is being marginalized. granted, some much more than others, but john edwards 2 nation message really resonated
The rich corporate elite of this country will at some point be forced to acknowledge the fact that the social contract and the commons exists in their own best interests. FDR truly did save capitalism from itself, and the Rush Limbo's of the world will be forced to acknowledge this fact. Maybe after it collapses of it's own weight.