I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarIs Osama bin Laden dead? Bhutto said so in an interview.


GravatarHe looks pretty young... maybe he was actually in high school when MoDo wrote that first elections-are-like-high-school column


GravatarTalking to Sir David Frost in November. He didn't even react.


GravatarThe Village HS, Badgers rock!


GravatarEdwards wins!!


GravatarAnd Jim Capozzola (RIP) spins in his grave.


GravatarBhutto said osama was killed by the guy who gilled Pearl who was in custody at the time. She meant Pearl.


GravatarI can claim to be in the top ten.

And I just watched The Departed.

Good stuff.


GravatarIt's neutral to write stories about schoolyard roles. That way whoever gets the job won't slam you or destroy your career later.


GravatarHigh school debate? We're voting on popularity? We really want to vote for someone we thought was cool when we were teenagers??

That was a wasted article...


GravatarGerrard sacked on 3rd down. Punt


GravatarWhat a crappy quandary. I have to decide which team, between the Seattle Cheathawks and the Dallas Cowboys, which I'd rather lose by 100 points.


GravatarI'd rather read the people here.


Gravatar"I have to decide which team, between the Seattle Cheathawks and the Dallas Cowboys,"

fuck dallas.


GravatarFluffernutter - it's fluffing ... AND nuts!


GravatarIt's a bit counterintuitive to posit the troublemaker as the cool kid.


GravatarMP | 01.05.08 - 11:20 pm | #


It's not worth it. Football games are more fixed than US elections, if that's possible.


GravatarDavenport is gonna be sore tomorrow


GravatarAnd I just watched The Departed.


DiCaprio surprised me in that.


GravatarAs a former economics lecturer, our leader needs be on Charlie Gibson's case.


GravatarI'm so happy to see all the Edwards supporters! It makes me feel "normal" for a change. Almost.


GravatarSo I take it the Seahawks beat the Redskins today?

I haven't been paying attention, although I have the game on right now.


GravatarFluffernutter - it's fluffing ... AND nuts!
Sinfonian, future boyfriend


Well.... HAL-LO, Sailor!


GravatarDiCaprio surprised me in that.
camelot- boob for Edwards

Have the dvd but haven't watched it. Did you like it?


GravatarThast's easy. The Cowboys need to lose by at least 1,000 points.


GravatarIt's a bit counterintuitive to posit the troublemaker as the cool kid.
bear | 01.05.08 - 11:21 pm | #

it is not.


GravatarI think Huckabee is actually that creepy silent guy who attacked me at the school party.


GravatarDiCaprio surprised me in that.

Walberg was the best actor in that whole thing.

I really underestimated him and the Funky Bunch.


GravatarCharlie Gibson just got his promised blow job from Barbara Bush.


GravatarAnd I just watched The Departed.


DiCaprio surprised me in that.
camelot- boob for Edwards


I enjoyed that movie a lot, and I thought Leo (with whom I share a birthday) was outstanding in it. One of his best performances, if not his best.


GravatarThe Cowboys need to be ejected from the NFL and all of their records stripped.


GravatarScherer gets paid to write about which candidate he would prefer to cut class with?


GravatarI liked the Departed. I think I'm in the minority around here


GravatarWhen he sits in the back of his campaign bus, we reporters gather like kids in the cafeteria huddling around the star quarterback.

ack


GravatarWhat shitty writing.


GravatarIt's neutral to write stories about schoolyard roles. That way whoever gets the job won't slam you or destroy your career later.

That way, you still get to eat and drink at those cocktail parties they were talking about. No one seems to mention that the likes of Joe Klein, Charlie Gibson, Sally Quinn, etc, also go to those parties and suck at the lobbyist teet.


GravatarThat column was insipid.


GravatarHave the dvd but haven't watched it. Did you like it?
ellroon |

Yes. I was surprised that Leo and Marky Mark seemed the best actors.

Anyone agree?


GravatarI was happy with Edwards, Clinton, and Obama. Given the attacks on her, I thought Hillary had some of the best responses to butt-stupid questions.


GravatarSinfonian, don't call him "Leo" unless you are teh gaii.


Gravatararghhh ... get ready, many trolls will abound - post "debates" is always a time for them ...


GravatarWe've transitioned to Extras.

We've never seen it; but we love Ricky.


GravatarSo I take it the Seahawks beat the Redskins today?

I haven't been paying attention, although I have the game on right now.
Sinfonian, future boyfriend |


As a Jacksonville-hater you must be very pleased with the unfolding choke here ...


GravatarCharlie Gibson just got his promised blow job from Barbara Bush.
leibniz, monadΩ |


He's a hag-bagger?


GravatarSeahawks play Green Bay next Sat.


GravatarYoung Ms. Jay got caught misspelling 'bellwether' at Swampland, mass attack by outraged posters ensued.


GravatarOkay, seriously, I'm way behind here.

Why the "Cheathawks?" What did they do?

And while I hate the Cowboys as much as anyone, they have been very good for a long time (with some notable exceptions, like Aikman's rookie year). Why should they be stripped of their records? Or am I just being too literal?

Forgive me. I'm distracted.


GravatarDiCaprio surprised me in that.
camelot- boob for Edwards



I think Leo has aged rather well, and has turned out to be a pretty good actor.


GravatarThough to be absolutely fair, imagine having to write on the primaries for over a year. There's not enough real material.


GravatarWe've transitioned to Extras.

We've never seen it; but we love Ricky.
Zap Rowsdower


Season I or II? I is pretty good.... II is fucking great


GravatarI thought DiCaprio was very good as a young George Bush in "What's Eating Gilbert grape?".


Gravatararghhh ... get ready, many trolls will abound - post "debates" is always a time for them ...
Trollminder


Scrolling IS a marvelous thing.


Gravatarevening bats


GravatarI have one of those band names for you:

Authorized Misconduct


GravatarPGH punts. JAX at midfield 2:38 to play


GravatarWhy the "Cheathawks?" What did they do?

Only about a baker's dozen really weird calls going the home team way.


GravatarWell, shit.

I was kind of hoping the 'Skins would win, as that would be the only chance (slim though it may have been) that the Bucs would have the NFC Championship Game at home.

But I'll be in Tampa tomorrow, watching Eli Manning piss his pants on the pass rush.

And yeah, Stu, I turned the game on when it was 28-17 Jags. I'm loving this. Goddamn, I hate the Jags.


GravatarYou are being too literal, Sinf.

I hate the Cowboys and the Braves both for this insipid claim....


GravatarForgive me. I'm distracted.
Sinfonian, future boyfriend


Okay. Spill.


GravatarCharlie Gibson just got his promised blow job from Barbara Bush.
leibniz, monadΩ |



Shame she wouldn't do that for Poppy in, say, 1945?


GravatarHonest to God, this is directly off the front page of the WaPo's website at this moment. What fucking world are they living in?

Romney and Huckabee exchange sharp words as they face frontrunner McCain in New Hampshire


GravatarI thought DiCaprio was very good as a young George Bush in "What's Eating Gilbert grape?".

That's an insult to the mentally challenged.


GravatarSeason the one, Jim.

We're pretty excited.


Gravatar"remaining in regulation" Al Michaels. Its a 1 point game. There won't be OT


GravatarManfred Mann - The Mighty Quinn

http://www.guba.com/watch/200078...=7&set=-1& o=116


GravatarSinfonian, don't call him "Leo" unless you are teh gaii.
lipreader, Edwards supporter


Like I said, we have the same birthday (although I'm 10 years older), so it's okay.



GravatarOff to take the doggie for a walk. Later, 'bats.


GravatarI suppose it would be helpful to know who these people are.


GravatarI think Leo has aged rather well, and has turned out to be a pretty good actor.
Terry C - Edwards 2008

I agree 100%.


Sinfonian, if you are distracted please tell me you are not commenting on a blog while latest interest is there.


GravatarCharlie Gibson just got his promised blow job from Barbara Bush.
leibniz, monadΩ |



Shame she wouldn't do that for Poppy in, say, 1945?
Terry C - Edwards 2008


Instead she takes it up the ass and we get the Chimp.


GravatarCome on! Dish Sinf! At least as much as you can whilst maintaining the semblance of being a gentleman and all that rot....


GravatarHillary had some of the best responses to butt-stupid questions.
JeffCO, weirdly intolerant


I think that puts it very well.


GravatarLocal "Oldies" bar band around here call themselves, "Tracing Yesterday" I have never seen them, but I do like the name.


GravatarLooking back... I have no idea who the quarterback of my HS football team was. Pretty sure I didn't know then


GravatarWhen was the last time anyone drop kicked a field goal in a professional game?


GravatarFlutie last year.


GravatarThere was one play, where the punt coverer was knocked out of bounds, then when he came back in bounds, was blocked into the punted ball.

Penalty. You can't come back in bounds and be the first person to touch the ball.


GravatarWhen was the last time anyone drop kicked a field goal in a professional game?
bill

Excellent question. Also, why would you ever do that?


GravatarRomney and Huckabee exchange sharp words as they face frontrunner McCain in New Hampshire



I thought Rudy 911 was the frontrunner.


GravatarOh, shit....I missed a debate.

Better check the other sites to see who "won".

/kidding


GravatarNo, no, she's not here.

And it's not what you think.

Yet.

But it's good and I'm happy. Of course, it's also early. So let's just leave it at that for now.


GravatarPenalty. You can't come back in bounds and be the first person to touch the ball.
MP

That totally sucked!!!!!!!!!!!

Seahawks were also offsides all night


GravatarDrop kick a FG ... well, I remember Doug Flutie drop-kicked an extra point, I believe it was, in his last game in the NFL. He was with Buffalo at the time.


GravatarFight at Russian Wedding Party...Da!

http://englishrussia.com/?p=1228


GravatarSinfonian,


I am glad to see you so happy!



GravatarBTW: Wednesday is national "talk like Rudy" day.


Q: "Honey, have you seen my brown loafers? I can't seem to find them
anywhere?"
A: "Well, I know you were wearing them on September 11th. Where did you
put them after that?"


Gravatarcan the stillers get a stop????


GravatarWelll, alright then, I guess, but we're not getting any younger here!


GravatarSo JAX burn their last timeout on a dodgy challenge and the "free" time out at 2min by not having a play ready?


GravatarIf the Jags do manage to get to try a field goal I'm guessing Tomlin gets a few questions later about the decision to go for 2 at 28-23.


GravatarBill Holden was teh hot in his younger days.


Gravatar"BTW: Wednesday is national "talk like Rudy" day."

wendthsday?


Gravatarcoke to mash


GravatarSinfonian,


I am glad to see you so happy!


Yes, me too.



GravatarExcellent question. Also, why would you ever do that?
lipreader, Edwards supporter.

I'm imagining a scrambling quarterback with no receiver open. Ain't gonna happen. I'd love to see it once.


GravatarMaybe I'm glad that the Vikings aren't in the playoffs.

Wait a sec.....









GravatarWednesday is national "talk like Rudy" day.



Imitate Sylvester The Cat?


GravatarSeahawks were also offsides all night
bill


And tore the damn jerseys off the pass rushers.

Wha' holding in Seattle?

Not with the "12th man", no way.


GravatarOne thing I think you'll see in the NFL, taken from the college game, is the emergence of punters who have rugby training for kicking into touch. Big returners are going to make it necessary.


GravatarI'm imagining a scrambling quarterback with no receiver open.

Fran-fucking Tarkington! That's how old I am!


GravatarFourth and 2. Game time


GravatarCoke to jdw


GravatarIf the Jags do manage to get to try a field goal I'm guessing Tomlin gets a few questions later about the decision to go for 2 at 28-23.
sdf (Stu), Doddmaniac


I disagree. I think that was the right call at the time, although it was a smidge early, I suppose. I know Madden said they should have kicked, too. BUt you never know.

FUCK YOU GARRARD. Dammit.


GravatarHoly crap. That was quite a run.


GravatarFuck me, the QB ran that like an offensive lineman.


GravatarOMFG I'm too old for this.


GravatarRun chubby, run!


GravatarFUCK

Gerrard ran to 10 yd line on 4th down.


GravatarRush Limbaugh is not going to like that play.


GravatarThanks, Terry!

Sorry, SteveLG ...


GravatarThe Steelers are screwed.


Gravatari'm rootin for pittshit, but won't cry if they lose.


GravatarI'm imagining a scrambling quarterback with no receiver open. Ain't gonna happen. I'd love to see it once.
bill

just saw it. Jax to the ten.


GravatarWhat does Garrard weigh?


GravatarPenalty. You can't come back in bounds and be the first person to touch the ball.
MP | 01.05.08 - 11:29 pm | #

When was the last time anyone drop kicked a field goal in a professional game?
bill

Excellent question. Also, why would you ever do that?
lipreader, Edwards supporter.



Rule #4: Join in the side chatter. Remember, this is an open thread and there will be discussion that isn't directly pointed at debate. While you shouldn't let it sidetrack you from the topic at hand (the topic that you began), joining in non-debate discussion will ingrain you into the community.


GravatarIs Gomez having palpitations?


GravatarNot with the "12th man", no way.
MP

First time I saw that Subway commercial where the ref admits to a crappy call. It was appropriate


GravatarI keed, I keed, as some other Steve says...


GravatarMike Huckabee also fits in my mythical high school typology. He is the class clown with the weight problem everyone likes, who always seemed to have his heart in the right place.

Funny, he looks like the fat kid who still gets bullied by the rich kids even when he has gastric surgery.


Gravatar
What does Garrard weigh?


240. He's 6' 2".


GravatarUnless they Romo.


GravatarI'm too drunk to keep up with sports.

Could you guys slow it down a tad?


GravatarIn the interest of accuracy:


GravatarWhen was the last time anyone drop kicked a field goal in a professional game?
bill


Flutie, but that may have been an extra point. Thers won't like that anyway.


Gravatarkicking on 4th risky.


GravatarIt's possible to support one candidate without dissing others.


Gravatar shoelimpy | 01.05.08 - 11:35 pm | #

Really, masturbation suits you so much better, Allen.


GravatarJags could still choke here. Very possible.


Gravatarana marie cocks quotes an email from npr bonehead eric schultz quoting 'why the south matters [or whatever the hell stupid book the idiot wrote was]' author tom schaller. I woulda bet the three of them together couldn't figure out how to type. But it's always cute when simpltons write The Big Dogs political obit. You'd think after 16 years of it they'd stop.


GravatarOne of the college games the other day had a RB 5'9" and 208. Michigan, maybe (Hart)?

I can't even imagine that weight on that height.


GravatarSinf...the cowboys and braves...both claim "America's Team"...

That's why we hates them...


GravatarOne thing I think you'll see in the NFL, taken from the college game, is the emergence of punters who have rugby training for kicking into touch. Big returners are going to make it necessary.
pseudonymous in nc |


Eagles punter Sav Rocca is a former Australian rules football player. Had a nice tackle in their last game, part of their triumphant rise to 8 - 8.


GravatarAll of the Democratic candidates looked better than all of the Goopers.


GravatarAs much as I like Edwards, but will vote for whoever wins the Democratic nomination, I felt a twinge of sympathy for Hillary when it became clear the guys were sticking together against her. As men always do to the woman at the table. Always.


Gravatar5 9 208 is a normal RB size.


GravatarOne of the college games the other day had a RB 5'9" and 208.

Human manhole cover.


GravatarCarolina lining up a chip shot w/ 29 secs


GravatarGotcha, lipreader. And FTR, I agree.

But I hate the Cowboys for a myriad of other reasons, generally personal.

And tomorrow's NFC winner - where I'll be - goes to Dallas next weekend.

GO BUCS!!!!!!


Gravatar"Flutie, but that may have been an extra point."

I think it was.

"the cowboys and braves...both claim "America's Team"..."

nah - we hate em cause they're evil - and from dallas.


Gravatarkick is good
jags take lead with :37 remaining


GravatarCarolina?


GravatarIts good.


GravatarOne of the college games the other day had a RB 5'9" and 208. Michigan, maybe (Hart)?

I can't even imagine that weight on that height.
Sinfonian, smitten

Geez, I think that is about what Barry Sanders was. . . Or is.


GravatarField Goal JAX

JAX up by 2


GravatarJerome bettis was 6'0 and weighed like 250 and will be in the hall of fame.


Gravatarnah - we hate em cause they're evil - and from dallas.


AMEN!


GravatarI want a Jack Del Rio leather jacket.


GravatarThe high school analogy works for me and I am 100% sure Sherer has no sense of irony


GravatarNo Romo's ghost tonight.

Quite a game here.


GravatarGreat late 60s power pop from Paul Revere and the Raiders:

http://www.guba.com/watch/200079...b=7&set=-1& o=61


GravatarI saw a bowl game recently where one team had a rugby-style punter. Very unorthodox.

Of course, I still remember when soccer-style placekicks were the exception rather than the rule. I never could do that; I always kicked straight-ahead.


GravatarEagles punter Sav Rocca is a former Australian rules football player.

Yeah, I heard about him getting called a poof by his mates back in Oz. (I also spliced Roy & HG's commentary on the Grand Final video this year. Much fun.)

But you'll start seeing more and more mobile punters with kick-to-touch skills, I think. The position has to evolve now that you have scary return specialists.


GravatarSanders was 5' 8" and 203.


GravatarWas Flutie attempting a two point conversion that went wrong?


GravatarSinfonian,

"Though short at 5'8", Sanders was very stocky; his playing weight of 203 lb (91 kg) was the same as Walter Payton and only slightly under the NFL average for a back."


GravatarCMON BEN


Gravatarsanders had enourmously thick legs. muscle thick


GravatarI'm flying to Pittsburgh. I have a field goal to kick.


GravatarNerd Alert!

Zap admires the fact that he's got a snow-free sidewalk!!


GravatarFUMBLE


Gravatargame over on a ben fumble


Gravatar I never could do that; I always kicked straight-ahead.
Sinfonian, smitten


Mark Moseley.

...ah. Game over.


GravatarGame over man.


Gravatargame over!


Gravatar5'8", 203.

Wow.

And I saw him run over the Buccaneers (they were division rivals in those days) several times. Greatest runner I ever saw live -- and I saw Walter Payton once.


GravatarIt must have come down to "mythical high school" vs. "best story you'll read this year (so far!)"
.


GravatarWell, no I don't.


GravatarI saw a bowl game recently where one team had a rugby-style punter. Very unorthodox.

Me too, in more than one bowl. Obvious place to recruit punters for college teams, though: a fly-half or full-back who has learned to avoid tackles and kick accurately out of bounds is the best defence to a returner who can go the length of the field.


GravatarBrian Westborrk is 5 10 205.


GravatarWas Flutie attempting a two point conversion that went wrong?
bill


Could be - that sounds about right.


GravatarWho won what game?


Gravatar"Was Flutie attempting a two point conversion that went wrong?"

if I recall, he talked the coach into trying it as it was his last game


GravatarJags to Dallas. Seattle to Green Bay. Back to lurking.


GravatarOne of the college games the other day had a RB 5'9" and 208.

Regular weight charts would have him obese.

The charts usually don't break 200 for males until you are 6' 2" or taller.


GravatarNo, I take that back.

The whole point was that it was Flutie's last game. They did it as a novelty.


GravatarI really should have been drinking.


GravatarBEN SACKED. JAX recovered. End of the season for the Damned family


GravatarBrian Westborrk is 5 10 205.
euphronius

A halfling.


GravatarHad they not missed the 2 point conversion, the game would be tied.


GravatarYeah, I heard about him getting called a poof by his mates back in Oz. (I also spliced Roy & HG's commentary on the Grand Final video this year. Much fun.)

He is a joke. A water buffalo. He should should take himself into a small room. With a mirror. And a take a good hard look at himself.


GravatarWas Flutie attempting a two point conversion that went wrong?

No, he was given the chance to do it for shits and giggles at the end of the season, because the coach heard he could do it.


GravatarZap admires the fact that he's got a snow-free sidewalk!!
Zap Rowsdower


I've got me one of those...


GravatarFuckin' Jags.

Okay, well, maybe it's a good weekend for Florida teams.

GO BUCS!!!


GravatarI do not have time to baby sit all the internets.


GravatarMarshall Faulk was by far the best running back in the past 20 years.


Gravatar*ahem*Adrian Peterson*ahem*

Best athlete in the NFL.


GravatarIn the case of Republicans, the parody writes itself.

Zap, I always have a snow free sidewalk


Gravatar"Brian Westbrook is 5 10 205."

I know someone who covers the eagles - he says westbrook is one of the nicest guys on that team.


Gravatar
Was Flutie attempting a two point conversion that went wrong?


No. It was done for the novelty. It hadn't been done for 65 years.


GravatarGO BUCSK!!!
Sinfonian, smitten

FYT!


GravatarJags to Dallas. Seattle to Green Bay.

Dallas won't like that one bit.


GravatarI always liked Flutie- so talented but they always said he was too short. Did whatever it took to stay in the game including playing that weird Canadian game


Gravatarlol, I'm an idiot...


GravatarRegular weight charts would have him obese.

YOU tell him.


Gravatar"Had they not missed the 2 point conversion, the game would be tied."

yeah, but the stillers got a free td on that chump 'holding call' on ward.


Gravatar"Dallas won't like that one bit."

good. fuck dallas


Gravatar*ahem*Adrian Peterson*ahem*

I believe Attaturk has built a holy shrine to him.


GravatarJags go to either NE or Indy. Dallas is NFC.


GravatarHell, there's a wonderful kick returner for the Skins named Rock Cartwright. I bet he's 215 lbs, and can't be taller than 5'8".


GravatarRegular weight charts would have him obese.

The charts usually don't break 200 for males until you are 6' 2" or taller.
MP |

That's for people, not pro-athletes. Muscle is twice as heavy as fat.


GravatarDid whatever it took to stay in the game including playing that weird Canadian game

They had him up in Toronto for the CouldntGiveAFuck Bowl today.


GravatarJags to Dallas. Seattle to Green Bay. Back to lurking.
Zeke's


No, not to Dallas. Wrong conference.

Didn't you just call them Carolina, too?

I think you mean "back to drinking."


GravatarCamelot- enjoyed your company.

On the the fiasco that is the repug debate


Gravataralways have a snow free sidewalk

Grrrrr.

I'll cut you, and only you, some slack.


Gravatari do believe it is spelled Westborrk. i could be wrong : )


GravatarLaDainian Tomlinson is 5' 10", 221.


GravatarOkay, folks, one last time.

The winner of tomorrow's Tampa Bay-NYGiants game goes to Dallas.

That will, of course, be the Bucs. I said 31-10. I don't think it will be all that close.

But, then, I'm biased. Also distracted and smitten.


GravatarDamned at Random

Where are you at now?


Gravatarthe weight charts should be burned and forgoten.


GravatarNow my wife's making me watch Project Runway. I don't want to watch Project Runway.


GravatarI mentioned this in real time and monocles dropped:

"Edwards, second-place finisher in Iowa, worked throughout the debate to align himself with Obama as an advocate for change in Washington, and described Clinton as a defender of the status quo. "Every time he speaks out for change, every time I fight for change, the forces of status quo are going to attack," Edwards said."

Hillary said this in real time and monocles dropped:
""You said you would vote against the Patriot Act. You came to Senate, you voted for it. You said you would vote against the Iraq war, you came to the Senate and voted for" funding, she said.

"I think we should get into examining everybody's record," she said."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080...o/ democrats_rdp

Or more likely testis jumped.


GravatarYeah, JAX is AFC, so it's Colts or Pats, right? And even the Pats won't want to play them.


GravatarZap, would that have anything to do with the fact that I'm serving you a lovely baked apple about now?


GravatarI believe Attaturk has built a holy shrine to him.

Him and me, both.

Just ask Zapette. Though I don't currently own any NFL-sanctioned materials.

Just gotta live out some hope for my home team before it moves to you neck of the woods.


Gravatarof course there are tackles in the NFL who are like 6 8 350 lbs.

thats big.


Gravatar"Dallas won't like that one bit."

good. fuck dallas
Uncle Blodge, Urban Teacher

Uncle Blodge Johnson is right!


GravatarThat will, of course, be the Bucs. I said 31-10. I don't think it will be all that close.

Eli Manning is the Jonah Goldberg of the NFL.


GravatarI felt a twinge of sympathy for Hillary when it became clear the guys were sticking together against her. As men always do to the woman at the table. Always.
Editores


Clinton: Edwards, here's a hand up ...

Edwards: Thanks, here's the back of it in return ...
.


Gravatar....drools ala Homer Simpson

Thanks, dear-heart!


Gravatar
the weight charts should be burned and forgoten.


I've thought that for a very long time.


GravatarProfessional sports are boring.


GravatarTalking heads I heard last week said that if Jax got past the Steelers, they'd have the best chance at beating New England, assuming they played them.

Could be a hot one! (© simels)


Gravatari'm 6'5" and 317


GravatarWow- I missed the whole repug debate.

Maybe there is a loving God


GravatarWalberg was the best actor in that whole thing.

He was the best actor in I


GravatarColts have beaten Jax twice this year but don't want to have to again. Go Chargers tomorrow. (Yes, I'm a Colts fan.)


GravatarThat's for people, not pro-athletes. Muscle is twice as heavy as fat.
1Watt, Hermit

So....maybe thats why I weight 240.....yeah, that's it. its all that muscle...


GravatarThat's for people, not pro-athletes. Muscle is twice as heavy as fat.
1Watt, Hermit


Very true. And I wonder how the anually trained heavyweights do after their career.

The Fridge was 6'2" 325, at the height of his professional fitness.


Gravatarhttp://www.dailykos.com/story/20...7650/142/ 431084

Busy Beaver at DKos does good rundown of the lack of MCM attention to Edwards--like actively ignoring him.


GravatarWhy aren't voters asking about Iraq? With the thousands of soldiers getting killed each month this should be the only issue in this campaign.

What the hell happened?


Gravatarfat plus muscle weighs 8 times more than just fat alone.


Gravatar
Maybe there is a loving God


Don't count on it


GravatarI really do not know how one compares athletes other than statistics and these become meaningless because they play for different teams. I do know that Barry Sanders played for the worst team in the league and still established some pretty damned significant records. Can you imagine what HIS statistics would have looked like playing for the Patriots or the Steelers or any of the other teams that simply do not suck?


Gravatarthe fridge was well over 400.


GravatarWalberg was the best actor in that whole thing.

He was the best actor in I Heart Huckabees and probably in Boogie Nights. There might be a pattern here.


GravatarThe pass rush pressure will tear Eli up. He's going to be sacked four times and throw three picks.

And Tiki Barber is crazy to say the Bucs offense doesn't score points. They do with Jeff Garcia at QB. Garcia to Galloway for two TDs tomorrow.


GravatarCamelot- Oregon - SE of Eugene in the Cascade Mountains - the Spousal Unit's hometown.

My hometown is West Mifflin


GravatarSo....maybe thats why I weight 240.....yeah, that's it. its all that muscle...
bill

That's my story 5-11 208.


Gravatarthe fridge was well over 400.
euphronius


Not with the Bears. Ditka was pissed when he would come to camp at 350.


Gravatarsanders was on a few teams that made the playoffs. he disaperated in the playoffs.


Gravatar*ahem*Adrian Peterson*ahem*

Best athlete in the NFL.


Jason Taylor of the Dolphins is pretty damn athletic.


GravatarThanks for that jawbone!


GravatarThe Fridge is now a stone/mason contractor in NC, IIRC


Gravatar"Busy Beaver at DKos does good rundown of the lack of MCM attention to Edwards--like actively ignoring him."

Google news:
Results 1 - 10 of about 37,813 for john-edwards
Results 1 - 10 of about 31,223 for hillary-clinton


Gravatartrue. rookkie fridge was under 350.


Gravatari'm 6'5" and 317
lipreader, Edwards supporter.


Really? Wow. I'm glad you're on my team.

I have a good friend who is truly a man-mountain. He's 6'9" at least, and well over four bills. His wife is pretty normal-sized, maybe 5'6" or so ...

And he's about the most gentle man I've ever known.


Gravatarthe fridge was well over 400.

Fridge was on Paula Dean's show on the Food Network around Thanksgiving. He's still all of that and more.


GravatarThough if TB wins, they do still get creamed in the next game. Or served on the side. Pick your analogy.


GravatarGoing out to drink now. Have fun folks!


GravatarMy hometown is West Mifflin
Damned at Random


So I guess you don't say yinz or gynt iggle anymore?


Gravatar"I felt a twinge of sympathy for Hillary when it became clear the guys were sticking together against her. As men always do to the woman at the table. Always.
Editores"

horseshit. it has nothing to do with hrc being a woman.


GravatarThat's my story 5-11 208.
1Watt, Hermit


6' 190. A little pudgy, but hell, I'm 47.


GravatarWhy aren't voters asking about Iraq? With the thousands of soldiers getting killed each month this should be the only issue in this campaign.

What the hell happened?
gill

87 journalists have been killed covering the war. (45 in the last year, I believe) They no longer leave the Green Zone to cover the war. The Army will not protect them and they have no wish to die. Therefore they do not cover the war and accept the word of the government that things are going splendidly.

The government has stopped doing things (like patrols) that are pissing off people so the number of attacks has diminished.

The number of people who have been displaced or killed has reduced the number of people who are willing to kill or be killed.

The situation has not really improved, it is just not being reported.


GravatarThat's my story 5-11 208.
1Watt, Hermit


Meh. 5' 10" and I'd give two of my chins to be get back to 208


Gravatar"With the thousands of soldiers getting killed each month"

???


GravatarSinf...my wife is 5'0".


GravatarThough if TB wins, they do still get creamed in the next game. Or served on the side. Pick your analogy.
pseudonymous in nc


Not so fast, my friend!

/lee corso


GravatarCamelot-

I still say Iggles, Stillers and gum band.

It's time to redd up after the game. Some small items were thrown


Gravatar"Google news:
Results 1 - 10 of about 37,813 for john-edwards
Results 1 - 10 of about 31,223 for hillary-clinton
Econ 102 "

Ya gotta wonder why they bother. When the vulcan group gets around to it they will decide who the next president will be.


GravatarWhy aren't voters asking about Iraq? With the thousands of soldiers getting killed each month this should be the only issue in this campaign.

What the hell happened?
gill

i agree that it is the issue but why do you say voters aren't asking? isn't it the media village that's not asking? i will certainly be asking everyone about the issue at my wash caucus in a month.


GravatarSinf...my wife is 5'0".
lipreader, Edwards supporter.


Dog bless that woman.


GravatarThey're making bodices out of twizzlers on Project Runway.


Gravatarhorseshit. it has nothing to do with hrc being a woman.
jdw


As much as I would like to believe that, I don't.


GravatarGravatarThe Fridge is now a stone/mason contractor in NC, IIRC

SC, I think. Aiken is near Augusta, GA. (Weird place: lots of megachurches.)


GravatarThe situation has not really improved, it is just not being reported.

Probably true.


GravatarIt's time to redd up after the game. Some small items were thrown
Damned at Random |




Gravatari have found with those weight charts if you have any typle of leg muscle, you will be well over.


Gravatarsanders was on a few teams that made the playoffs. he disaperated in the playoffs.
euphronius

Now that is just stupid. Whatever else we may be in Michigan, we remember when the Lions make the playoffs. It has happened once in the last three decades and they were blown out in the one game they played.


Gravatardamn you all, Put the cookies up without sampling one.


Gravatarthousand of people, not necessarily soldiers, getting killed each month


Gravatar6' 190. A little pudgy, but hell, I'm 47.
MP


Right there with ya. I'm 5'11" and about 185, at age 42.

I can live with that. And I think I found a blue-eyed blonde who can, too. Remarkable.


GravatarJason Taylor of the Dolphins is pretty damn athletic.

Yeah, he is.

But Peterson fucked this league up this year; much the same Randy Moss did his rookie year.

Defenses got smart in putting eight in the box (no flirting) when Peterson came to town. How messed up is it that a defense has to revolve around one person?

(yes, I realive that the Vikings aren't in the playoffs...)


GravatarActually, Wikipedia says the Lions made the playoffs five times in Sander's career. ( I don't remember that. Maybe I am old)

Sorry. I was wrong.


Gravatarhorseshit. it has nothing to do with hrc being a woman.
jdw | 01.05.08 - 11:53 pm | #


really?


GravatarEdwards was on fire at the debate.

Maybe someone could make a platform statement about a decent football playing surface in the three and a half billion dollar National Football League for Heinz field.


Gravatari'm 6'5" and 317
lipreader, Edwards supporter.


Good Grief, Mountain man.


GravatarI may not have a blog to whore, but, I am involved in the event at my *NEW* HOMEPAGE.





Just sayin'.


GravatarMichael Scherer's pic looks like someone getting an airport bj...

And the pic of Jay Newton-Small - that correspondent from back in the day (the DeLay era! That's old school!) - looks like it belongs on her MySpace page...


GravatarI'm six foot tall, one seventy lbs. I owe it all to cigarettes.

Just sayin'.



GravatarNow that is just stupid. Whatever else we may be in Michigan, we remember when the Lions make the playoffs. It has happened once in the last three decades and they were blown out in the one game they played.
DWD


Are you talking about 1997? I was at the playoff game when Tampa Bay beat the Lions in Tampa that year. The next week, I got married, and the day after that, the Bucs got blown out (almost literally) in Green Bay.


Gravatarhorseshit. it has nothing to do with hrc being a woman.
jdw


agreed, but it has too much to do with the fact that she is a "Clinton" ...


Gravatar"As much as I would like to believe that, I don't."

nope. just watch the goopers. they went after mitt because that's the strategy to get rid of #2 in NH.

if the roles and strategy between the dem 1,2 and 3 in Nh were switched it would have been different....it had nothing to do with sex.


GravatarIt's quiet here again and the cats are coming out of hiding.

And I know tomoorow I'll be watching the playoffs. Can't help myself


Gravatar"thousand of people, not necessarily soldiers, getting killed each month"

It may be wrong to think this way (and I don't), but most Americans don't care about people from other countries being killed, unless the numbers are staggering in size. Even then, it doesn't become a major campaign issue.


GravatarSpeaking of Mitt, I saw a headline today that said he won the Wyoming caucuses.

Did anyone know they were having caucuses in Wyoming?

For that matter, did anyone besides Dick "Dick" Cheney know that Wyoming is still a state?


GravatarEvening batses.

Now that the subprime crisis has hit the wealthy, have housing prices and salaries in the Boston area become reasonable yet?

Newton wouldn't be bad for me, since that is where I was born.


GravatarActual high school newspaper reporters write better articles than that...
-


Gravatarholy shit..on discovery they are showing how lp's are made...didn't know anyone even made them anymore..


GravatarAnd I know tomoorow I'll be watching the playoffs. Can't help myself
Damned at Random


Look for me on TV in Tampa. I'll be the one in the throwback Lee Roy Selmon jersey (orange, #63) and the FSU hat.


GravatarMan...MN, NY, and OH are probably gonna lose house seats in 2010.

No good.


GravatarDid anyone know they were having caucuses in Wyoming?

Sinfonian, smitten


Good point.


Gravatarholy shit..on discovery they are showing how lp's are made...didn't know anyone even made them anymore..
jdw

the djs 'scratch' them... even bringing back turntables to do it


GravatarNight all, I'm off to find the debates.


GravatarWyoming, home of the Teapot Dome scandal. No wonder Cheney has the GOP hold a primary there...


GravatarRadiohead released their latest album (following the online name-your-price download thingie) on vinyl.


Gravatar"if the roles and strategy between the dem 1,2 and 3 in Nh were switched it would have been different....it had nothing to do with sex.
jdw "

What does edwards gain by pumping up obama and attacking Hillary? He has been at it for weeks now. I can't figure out what his advantage would be. edwards only hope was to score big quick. He doesn't have the cash to keep going like Hillary or obama.


Gravatar"Now that the subprime crisis has hit the wealthy, have housing prices and salaries in the Boston area become reasonable yet? Newton wouldn't be bad for me, since that is where I was born."

The median sales price for single-family homes in Newton is $769,000, according to the Assessors Department. Compare that with last year, when the median sales price for single-family homes was $738,250.


GravatarI'm 6 foot one, 135 lbs. I owe it all to running for the train every morning


GravatarI'm 5'6" and 200, but I don't play football.


GravatarYou know what, Sinf?

I actually paid ten bucks for In Rainbows.

I'm a sucker, but I'm more than happy to give money to a band I actually like.


GravatarThe current weight charts are pretty draconian. I'm 5'11", 175 and barely under the "overweight" category. Other than my face, I don't look fat.


GravatarHe doesn't have the cash to keep going like Hillary or obama.
hadenough

Bullshit.


GravatarWhy is The History Channel showing "Dirty Harry?"

I didn't realize that was a documentary ...


GravatarLet the Oligarchs eat cake!


GravatarThe BMI charts are criminal.


GravatarDid anyone know they were having caucuses in Wyoming?

Yes, and they are trying to keep the Wyoming caucus relevant by sending all twelve of their elected delegates directly to the convention.

I'm not sure how that keeps them relevant.


GravatarWhy is The History Channel showing "Dirty Harry?"

I didn't realize that was a documentary ...
Sinfonian, smitten

You sure it wasn't about the 60s and it was 'Dirty Harry Hippies'?


GravatarMike, if you're five six and two hundred pounds, you're probably too fat to play football.


Gravataraccording to the weight charts, I am supposed to be 30 lbs underweight. Most people would just say that I'm slim. I'm supposed to weigh 165 for a small frame, and 180 for a medium one!


GravatarLet the Oligarchs eat cake!
Jet |

The cake is a liar!


GravatarWhat does edwards gain by pumping up obama and attacking Hillary?

Edwards thinks he can beat Obama, if Obama is focused on Clinton. This is because Clinton has to respond to Obama, but because of how far back in the polls Edwards is, she can almost ignore him.

For now anyway.


GravatarYou know what, Sinf?

I actually paid ten bucks for In Rainbows.

I'm a sucker, but I'm more than happy to give money to a band I actually like.
Zap Rowsdower


I don't blame you. I imagine a lot of folks did that.

By the time I got around to downloading it, I was too late. Story of my life ...


GravatarI'm 6 foot one, 135 lbs. I owe it all to running for the train every morning
mimi


i attribute it more to the train, those hoboes can be quite horney ...


GravatarI think the charts are prolly right...I'm fat.

6'1" 250

working on getting back down to my playing weight...my trumpet playing weight


Gravataraccording to the weight charts, I am supposed to be 30 lbs underweight. Most people would just say that I'm slim. I'm supposed to weigh 165 for a small frame, and 180 for a medium one!
mimi


And what species are you?


Gravatar"What does edwards gain by pumping up obama and attacking Hillary? "

um, second place?


GravatarEcon102,

since you like stats so much, show me the median income in the technology industry in the Boston metro area.


Gravatarmeanwhile 31 million light years ago:

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod...d/ ap080105.html


GravatarThe cake is a liar!
ellroon

The cake will set you free!


Gravatar"Mike, if you're five six and two hundred pounds, you're probably too fat to play football."

I'm 70 years old, so I don't give a fuck.


GravatarI'm surprised our Eurostar Top Model uses feet and pounds instead of metric measurements...


Gravatar
The current weight charts are pretty draconian. I'm 5'11", 175 and barely under the "overweight" category. Other than my face, I don't look fat.


There's no accounting at all for body type. It's one size fits all, except of course, that it doesn't.


GravatarBut Peterson fucked this league up this year; much the same Randy Moss did his rookie year.

Tom Thayer, the Bears radio analyst, said that Peterson was the type of player that forces the other teams in his division to change their long-term strategies of drafting and signing free agents. Every team in the NFC North will have to improve their run defense for the next 10 years.


Gravatar"What does edwards gain by pumping up obama and attacking Hillary?

VP


GravatarIf I woke up in time to catch the train, I'd be fat!


GravatarYeah boy, Edwards and Obama are tag teaming Hillary.

Edwards/Obama, Obama/Edwards - unstoppable in the general election.

Hillary, not so much.

Think about it.


GravatarDid I mention I have the body of Adonis?


Adonis at 47.


GravatarOkay, long day tomorrow with the trip to Tampa and the game and all that. I'll probably see you all again on Monday.

Now to fall asleep to the dulcet tones of Paul Winfield narrating my guilty pleasure, "City Confidential," then to drift off and dream of a gorgeous, brilliant blue-eyed blonde I know ...

Life is good.

Catch you patriotz laterz.


GravatarEdwards/Obama would be unbeatable.


GravatarJim, that's 185 cm and 62 kg.


GravatarMeanwhile, 37,500 years ago.


GravatarTom Thayer, the Bears radio analyst, said that Peterson was the type of player that forces the other teams in his division to change their long-term strategies of drafting and signing free agents. Every team in the NFC North will have to improve their run defense for the next 10 years.

Exactly.

Peterson's gonna be a force to be a-reckoning with for some time. And I'm glad he's on my team.


GravatarEdwards/Obama also sets us up to hold the White House for 16 years at least.


Gravatar"show me the median income in the technology industry in the Boston metro area."

http://www.payscale.com/research...y=Boston/ Salary


GravatarNow to fall asleep to the dulcet tones of Paul Winfield narrating my guilty pleasure, "City Confidential," then to drift off and dream of a gorgeous, brilliant blue-eyed blonde I know ...

Life is good.

Catch you patriotz laterz.
Sinfonian, smitten


I see someone else likes City Confidential, too.



GravatarCake and grief counseling will be available after the test...


GravatarEdwards/Obama also sets us up to hold the White House for 16 years at least.
lipreader, Edwards supporter.


I agree, but I don't think Obama wants to be Veep. I think Richardson is the only one up there who would consider it.


GravatarCake and grief counseling will be available after the test...




Gravatarwhat's "City Confidential"? sounds cool


GravatarEcon102,

Thanks.

And wow, incomes in Boston are worse than I thought.


GravatarSinf,

Nice vibe to sign off with.


GravatarDid anyone know they were having caucuses in Wyoming?




Gotta have ONE place where Mitt will win.


GravatarJim, trash TV on A&E where they look at various crimes.  It's hilarious and campy.  I love it.


Gravatarwe just weight... me,
mimi,
Lipreader;
and me, MP ...


Gravatar"Mike, if you're five six and two hundred pounds, you're probably too fat to play football."

I'm 70 years old, so I don't give a fuck.
mike in pr | Homepage | 01.06.08 - 12:08 am | #

Mike, that's the spirit. Hopefully your still getting a lot of sex.


Gravatarfor an adopted barnyard dog, this shemale thinks she owns my sofa.


GravatarI loved City Confidential too


GravatarJim, trash TV on A&E where they look at various crimes. It's hilarious and campy. I love it.
Sallyh,


Heh. I'll have to check it out.


GravatarJim, trash TV on A&E where they look at various crimes. It's hilarious and campy. I love it.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere


Love true crime shows and books.


GravatarPeterson's gonna be a force to be a-reckoning with for some time. And I'm glad he's on my team.

Only as long as the Vikings have an offensive line that can spring him (like they did this year). If your O-line begins to age or gets injured (like the Bears's did this year), those eight defenders in the box will eat Peterson alive.


GravatarIf the next Chief Executive doesn't blurt out "World War III, heh, heh", I'll call it a net gain.


Gravatar"Bullshit.
lipreader, Edwards supporter."

edwards has no cash. He needed to win quick. Instead of letting Hillary and obama fight it out in the last couple of debates edwards went right at her while he pumped obama. Why?

edwards tonight:
Edwards, second-place finisher in Iowa, worked throughout the debate to align himself with Obama as an advocate for change in Washington, and described Clinton as a defender of the status quo. "Every time he speaks out for change, every time I fight for change, the forces of status quo are going to attack," Edwards said.

edwards earlier today:
"The forces of status quo are going to attack every single time," he said after Clinton criticized Obama. "We need an unfiltered debate between the agents of change about how to bring about that change."

"He believes deeply in change and I believe deeply in change," Edwards said. "I didn't hear these kind of attacks from Sen. Clinton when she was ahead, and any time you speak out for change that’s what happens."
http://www.politico.com/blogs/ be...cks_a_side.html

edwards has no money:
Former senator John Edwards said yesterday that he will accept public financing in his bid for the Democratic presidential nomination, a move that will provide a short-term infusion of cash for his campaign but severely limit his ability to spend in crucial early primary contests.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...7092702234.html

What will he do when super tuesday comes up? Praise obama? What is his advantage?


GravatarTerry, I have to say Paul Winfield's mellifluous voice and oh so slightly cynical delivery make it far more fun


GravatarAt age 44 I am 6'3 and 200 lbs. When folks invariably ask me how I do it I toss them a pack of Malboro's and a Bic. No shit, it really works.


Gravatardrapes

sheets

owls

edwardswillbe president


Gravatarsheets


GravatarEdwards doesn't need money. He spent 1/5 of what the other 2 did in Iowa.

And when it comes to the general election he'll have all the money he needs and more.


GravatarIf the next Chief Executive doesn't blurt out "World War III, heh, heh", I'll call it a net gain.
MP


Like I said, Chimpy brays like a jackass about things that are NOT in the least bit funny.

Real sociopath.


GravatarEdwards/Obama would be unbeatable.

Don't misunderestimate the MCM. All Dems are beatable. In fact, it's their job to ensure that this takes place.


GravatarTerry, I have to say Paul Winfield's mellifluous voice and oh so slightly cynical delivery make it far more fun
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere



RIP, Mr. Winfield.


GravatarTrue, DJ.

We love our O-line.


GravatarEdward's and Obama's survival depends upon knocking out Mrs. Clinton. She will not choose either one of them for VP.


GravatarWe love our O-line.

You should.


GravatarTry Googling John Edwards and then Hillary Clinton under Google News--numbers are far, far different from what were typed in above. Wonder how that happened.


GravatarDon't misunderestimate the MCM. All Dems are beatable. In fact, it's their job to ensure that this takes place.
Tralfaz | 01.06.08 - 12:18 am | # ~~~

This should be a banner on all lib/prog blogs.


GravatarDavid, here's more generic information from the 2006 American Community Survey (done by the Census).

Boston-Cambridge-Quincy, MA-NH Metro Area

FULL-TIME, YEAR-ROUND CIVILIAN EMPLOYED POPULATION 16 YEARS AND OVER WITH EARNINGS: Male; Management, professional, and related occupations; Professional and related occupations; Computer and mathematical occupations

$81,233 +/-2,078

By comparison, the median earnings for an adult male, full-time employed, in the Boston metro is $55,087 +/-822.


Gravatar"Terry, I have to say Paul Winfield's mellifluous voice and oh so slightly cynical delivery make it far more fun."
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere

Winfield made the show.


GravatarIt's not the same without him.


Gravatar$81,233 +/-2,078

It's getting close to reasonable, until the cost of housing gets factored in.

It is more than 50% higher than Austin, yet the salaries range from 10 - 12% higher than Austin.


GravatarI can't believe Time actually PAID for that content.


GravatarI'm sick of John McCain thinking he's the Fonz with bis smelly brown leather jacket


GravatarWow. Just...wow.


GravatarI don't usually follow links over to Time. And I don't think I will ever again.


GravatarSaon's gain is Time's embarrassment.

Can't wait until they get rid of the other MSM writer in waiting, Walter Shapiro.


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