"Money talks and...vechulhu..."

If you (the reader)really want to make a point to the Newish Jews then you should stop buying it! I stopped selling it in my shop and stopped buying it years ago to protest exactly this issue. The problem is that such a protest will only be noticed if it makes a dent in their hip pocket!
Yirmi Lever | 28.06.09 - 11:06 am | #

You go Yirmi!

Is this blog official?
Nachman | 28.06.09 - 1:56 pm | #

Yirmi, it's good to see that there is some good old-fashioned Yekkishkeit in you and you have principles that you stick to.

Our problem is that very few of us are like this - and we use various excuses to continue buying and financially supporting the hand that whips us. Are we really that stupid? Obviously the answer is YES.

As someone once commented: "If only the am navon vechochom would have a bissel seichel..."
Mendy W | 28.06.09 - 2:48 pm | #

There is an alternative source which does cover ALL communites [will be at the Yeshiva next week for the G-G's visit]

www.jwire.com.au
editor | Homepage | 28.06.09 - 2:52 pm | #

AJN Watch has replied quite comprehensively to Aussie Echo's above post. It makes a few good points.

http://ajnwatch.blogspot.com/
Lady chosid | 28.06.09 - 6:39 pm | #

This problem with the AJN has been going on for decades. Remember when they ran the columns of the late and unlamented Chaim Bermant? And of course they have always been running not just ads for treife restaurants but even reviews! The paper you want is the Jewish Herald, but unfortunately it was forced out of business 40 years ago.
Milhouse | 29.06.09 - 3:30 am | #

I find it quite offensive that you say "(whatever it is being called today)" with respect to "Liberal/Progressive/Reform".

I don't affiliate with them - in fact I am orthodox - however to brand them like that, and I'm sure many would agree, quite and utterly offensive.

There's little point in attacking the otherside to get your point across.

With respect to your point about the Rabbi in last week's paper and being charged etc - I think it's a pretty big deal that a Rabbi, a religious authority, has been accused of such matters.

Sure, maybe a front page article was too much - but seriously, the point is exactly that because he is frum - because he is religious - because he preaches to not do exactly what he is accused of doing.

I think you are a bit arsh in this regard.

But that' s just my thoughts!! Don't take it the wrong way.

Keep up the good reporting, I like it.
The more diversified journalism in Australian Jewry - the better!
Shimon | 30.06.09 - 12:34 am | #

Shimon have a look at that new blog
http://ajnwatch.blogspot.com/ where they discuss the difference ofreporting on Engel and that LPR rabbi vallins who converted to christianity,
and btw, how do you want us to describe the templegoers? They after all do keep changing their label
Rivkah | 30.06.09 - 12:01 pm | #

You think it's offensive? Good. Let them be offended. Liberal/Reform/Whatever "Judaism" is a foreign religion that has less in common with Judaism than do most forms of Christianity. A Liberal rabbi is Jewish in exactly the same sense that Cardinal Lustiger was Jewish. The only thing that makes them a "Jewish" religion in some sense is that most of their members are Jewish, though that number is decreasing steadily; in the USA it may well no longer be true, and if it is it won't be for much longer. But the same is true of some of the Eastern sects and cults. At one point it was estimated that the majority of Hairy Krishmas in Australia were Jewish! If true, that would have made HK exactly as Jewish as Temple Beth Israel.
Milhouse | 01.07.09 - 1:22 am | #

The Engel story was a serious news story and of course it had to be reported. But the AJN should have done so in a serious, sober manner, laying out the facts without sensationalism. The AJN's tabloid-like treatment was an absolute disgrace, and we shouldn't be making excuses for it.
Milhouse | 01.07.09 - 1:24 am | #

To the person from the AJN Watch blog: please stop posting comments publicising your blog under different names.
From now on they will be deleted.
Aussie Echo | Homepage | 01.07.09 - 3:07 pm | #

aussie

i was going to say something about that ........ it was very obvious the comments are from one person. the whole blog has been setup by the hamodia guys and the comments put in there by themselves giving themselves pats on the back. sad
not confused anymore | 01.07.09 - 4:08 pm | #

i know thechevra behind hamodia.strongly doubt that its them. whoever it is i say let them be publicised at the start .jewish news needs watching. just ask y engel
hamodia fan | 01.07.09 - 6:37 pm | #

www.jwire.com.au
editor | Homepage | 28.06.09 wrote:

There is an alternative source which does cover ALL communites [will be at the Yeshiva next week for the G-G's visit]
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Yes, we are subscribers. And while you do not publish - as far as we know - biased anti-frum material, we are quite disappointed that your site is Mechalel Shabbos bifresiyeh by sending your daily email at 3.00 pm on Saturday afternoons.
Why not show some respect for Shabbos and Shabbos-observers by waiting a few hours until after dark?
AJN Watch | Homepage | 05.07.09 - 4:57 pm | #

How can a computer be mechallel shabbos? And how could it be b'farhesiya if no orthodox Jews see it happening? I mean, you're not online at the same time yourself.
Joe in Australia | 06.07.09 - 11:28 am | #

Come on Joe.

Jwire writes posts and sends it out to his list on Shabbos. Of course it's chilul shabbos.
O Jews switching on their computers on Motzash - see the chilul so it's definitely bifresiya. And what about all the non-O who DO use their computers on Shabbs? That's not bifresia? Course it is
hersh | Homepage | 06.07.09 - 3:27 pm | #

Coming from the orthodox side of the tracks, I don't like those on our side throwing stones at the Reform or Conservative side, esspecially when so many on our side are prepared to tolerate the "Yechi" crowd, which is getting closer to an alternative religion each day.
Aussie Oliver Shalom | 06.07.09 - 4:15 pm | #

I don't subscribe to jwire so I don't know if anything looks as though it's written on Shabbaos. As for things being sent on Shabbos - why wouldn't you assume that he has an automated system? Finally, let's suppose that the author were actually mechallel shabbos. That would be very wrong and I would hope that he would cease doing this. You, on the other hand, who ought to know better, are violating at least one and probably several Torah prohibitions by spreading the tale. What's your excuse?
Joe in Australia | 08.07.09 - 6:37 am | #

he has no excuse

hes trying to sell his adass hamodea newspaper
der emmes | 09.07.09 - 12:07 am | #

JIA: As for things being sent on Shabbos - why wouldn't you assume that he has an automated system?
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Because he sends an updated 'latest news' email every day at 3.00 pm - including Friday and Shabbos (and presumably YT).

Looks like it's time for you to review the halachos of LH as there is no prohibition of LH re a mechalel shabbos and as for spreading that fact - Jwire does that - not me.
hersh | Homepage | 09.07.09 - 12:27 am | #

Hersh, if it goes out every day at exactly 3 then it's quite obviously an automatic job, so where's the chilul shabbos? The issue of shvisas keilim was settled a long time ago, and anyone who claims it's forbidden is a zoken mamre.
Milhouse | 10.07.09 - 11:56 am | #

milhouse .
he sends out updated news items on shabbos eg last weeks report on the GGs visit to yeshiva just beofre shabos.
its nice to be dan lekaf zechus but not for a shabbos desecrator
nixon | 10.07.09 - 2:13 pm | #

Nixon, what are you talking about? The GG visited on Thu 2-Jul, and J-wire's report was written that same day, nowhere near Shabbos. Forget dan lechaf zechus; unless you present us with a reason to believe J-wire to be mechalel shabbos, all we can conclude is that you are motzi shem ra.
Milhouse | 17.07.09 - 7:18 pm | #

Milhouse. You are right. Dunno why I thoughtit was Friday.
So I withdraw and apologise for insinuating that Jwire is mechalele Shabbos
nixon | 19.07.09 - 12:19 am | #

Even if the Governor General's visit were to have been on Friday, the report wouldn't have been evidence of chillul shabbos.

The way mailing list servers generally works is that people send things to the server at any time, and then the server sends out a compilation at a specific time. For instance, if the time for the server to send out a compilation is 3 PM you could send something in at 3:30 PM the day before, 9 AM the next morning and 2:45 PM that afternoon, and it would all be sent out at the same time.

Anyway, I'm glad you've apologised for your unjustified attack.
Joe in Australia | 19.07.09 - 9:19 am | #

If a site sends out a daily update every single day at exactly 3:00:00 pm, with multiple stories datelined in the previous 24 hours, it is not just possible but certain that no human is doing anything at 3 o'clock to send it out. Anyone who doesn't understand this in 2009 has no business commenting on anything to do with email, or the internet, or computers, or pretty much anything at all. To accuse a Jew of chilul shabbos, as the editors of AJN Watch have done, on such a basis, is shameful.
Milhouse | 20.07.09 - 10:25 am | #