What time of day?
Will there be a mass?
When does it end?
Shouldn't you put this info on the Living Scotland website?
More soon!
Yes, tell us more. I wrote an essay on Suicide and Euthanasia in high school (the conclusions of which I now disagree with), and would be interested in this.
Ok so it is clear there is sung mass at 5 but not clear if it is in English, a Latin Novus Oro Mass or a Vetus Ordo Mass. Also when is talk? Before mass or after? And when is the whole thing due to finish? Not everyone lives in Edinburgh and peopel have to think about getting home!
You don't find the air of mystery compellingly attractive, then? Darn...
Mass first. I expect business will be clear by 7, and then drinks commence. I must ask the PP how late we can stay!
Unless Aelianus thinks that 7 is not a safe estimate?
Some of the mystery can remain undisturbed, then.
(Though, come to think of it, this is beginning to sound worryingly as if Living Scotland as an organisation subscribes to The Rules. Maybe I should revise previous comment! but I can't remember the Haloscan password.)
Oh my goodness me the Google ad here is for an essay-writing service. Eeeeevil.
Not later than 7:30 anyway. What are 'The Rules'?
It's embarrassing that I know about the self-help phenomenon that swept the female world, oh, about ten years ago now, but - The Rules is a handbook on how to make someone marry you by playing hard-to-get (in a non-bitchy way). Or, to take the more positive angle, how to prevent abortive relationships with men who, when the chips are down, will actually never marry you. Try googling "the rules". Though be prepared to be slightly scared.
Time, street, ....?
Thanks to Aelianus for answering most of my queries. I presume the mass will, sadly, be NO, because had it been VO we would still be in the Octave of Pentecost. On which subject here is an excellent post from Fr Mark on the sad demise of the Octave, a demise which apparently surprised even its abolisher, viz John VI, who clearly was not reading his paperwork before he signed off the "deforms" off!:
Days of Fire and of Light
In the traditional Roman liturgical calendar the glorious solemnity of Pentecost has its own Octave: eight days under the grace of the Holy Spirit, eight days of joy in the fire and light of His presence, eight days of thanksgiving for His gifts. The Octave of Pentecost was one of the most beautiful moments in the Church Year, not only by reason of the liturgical texts, but also by reason of its effect in the secret of hearts. Each day of the Octave the Church would sing her “Golden Sequence,” the Veni, Sancte Spiritus: a chant of such unction that one never tires of repeating it.
The Suppression of a Great Joy
In some places in the Catholic world, Whit Monday was a reason to have a civil holiday, as well as a liturgical celebration. In this way, the mysterious presence of the Holy Spirit marked even the secular culture. It came as shock, and brought no little distress to the faithful, when in 1969 the Octave of Pentecost suddenly disappeared from the calendar. It would appear that not even the Pope was apprised of the suppression of one of the Church’s great joys.
So the Story Goes
The story goes that on the Monday after Pentecost in 1970 His Holiness Pope Paul VI rose early and went to his chapel for Holy Mass. Instead of the red vestments he expected, green ones were laid out for him. He asked the Master of Ceremonies, "What on earth are these for? This is the Octave of Pentecost! Where are the red vestments?" "Your Holiness," replied the Master of Ceremonies, "this is now The Time Throughout the Year. It is green, now. The Octave of Pentecost is abolished." "Green? That cannot be," said the Pope, "Who did that?" "Your Holiness, you did." And Paul VI wept.
Paul VI did not weep alone. Many wept with him. It was reported that Catherine de Hueck Doherty of Madonna House was inconsolable. Faithful the world over were speechless at the brutal removal of one of the Church Year’s most cherished moments. In some countries the hierarchy were frightfully embarrassed: the civil calendar had retained the Monday and Tuesday after Pentecost as holidays, while the Church had erased them from hers. Little by little, the voices of those seeking the restoration of the Pentecost came to be heard in high places.
A Breakthrough
The 1998 American edition of the Lectionary contained the following note: “If it is customary or obligatory for the faithful to attend Mass on the Monday or even the Tuesday after Pentecost, the readings from the Mass of Pentecost Sunday may be repeated or the readings of the Rit
The OCart liturgy has a sort of one-day octave - feria II is a solemnity.
Hello Rose, was it you who was askiing about Triduana earlier? Drop us an email if you're still interested - as I said, if you already sent one I fear it may have got swept into spam and then deleted by mistake. Yahoo seems to be a bit over-enthusiastic in identifying spam!
At boeciana [at] yahoo [dot] co [dot] uk , that is.
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