Planck's Constant - Fighting World Terror
nicely put, planck. but it will have to be more well-defined than this. who would get to define the "intent to undermine the sovereignty of the united states"? depending on who is in power at the time - or who can get the loudest bullhorn - people on both sides of the political spectrum could be said to agree with such and ideology... but something we definitely need to do once the wording is locked up tight!
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It is indeed time for a mature and precise understanding of what is, and what is not, a religion. But such an understanding would have strong implications...and in this anti-ideological age of the West, we fear to face any conception stronger than "Cross at the green, not in between."
Islam is crap. The dolts that buy into that brand of bullshit are fools that are easily led by the nose. Actually all religions are BS but the other ones don't annoy me as much as those bogus shit-for brains muslims.
P.S. Fuck Mohamid!
Muslims Against Sharia denounce the decision by the Indianapolis International Airport to install footbaths. The controversy will further alienate the non-Muslim population. Footbaths will be used as urinals, which will provoke tensions, and more importantly, installing religious ritualistic devices on public property clearly violates the separation of Church and State.
For Islamists, this is a step towards Islamization of of the West; for Americans, it is a step towards Dhimmitude.
http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2007/09/
indianapolis-footbaths.html
"Perhaps it’s time for a constitutional amendment? I submit for example: “No person shall hold any office or public Trust under the United States who adheres to or gives allegiance to any religion, ideology, or organization."
Fixed that for ya.
They say this while at the very same time they rape, torture and burn Christians.
If history is any guide this is a good indication that Islam is in a fact real religion. After all what did Christians do during the crusades? That's right, rape torture, burn. What did the jews do to Jesus? Yep. All religion is fraud. Until we learn otherwise we'll just keep repeating the cycle.
Augustine,
Rape torture, burn do not indicate that the entity committing same is a religion. Genghis Khan did all three but no one calls the Mongols a religion. Muslims and Mongols are exactly the same, a marauding gang of thugs bound by a philosophy of conquest. But a religion? Please.
Was mankind barbaric and savage 800 years ago? Yes. Have Christianity and Judaism become civilized? Yes. Has Islam become civilized? No. Is Islam still stuck in the savagery and barbarism of the 7th century? Obviously.
Comparing Christians of 800 years ago with supposedly modern Muslims of today does not make a good point.
And exactly what did the Jews do to Jesus? Rape, torture, burn? Don't be silly.
Have Christianity and Judaism become civilized? Yes
Really? Have you asked any of the civilians in Iraq if they consider the deaths of their children civilized? Do you know how many civilians have been killed in this war? Would Jesus approve? What about the inocent people in Guantanamo--you must know they can't all be guilty. I am always shocked but the number of people who advocate killing under the banner of Christianity. You are full of hate and need to go back to your books and read them again--you seem to have missed the message somewhere.
Because in Augustine's world when American takes action it is an action condoned by the Pope and the Anglican Church and... Oh wait-
It seems that your logical foundation is shattering.
I'm sorry Nate, I said nothing about the Pope or the church, I was talking about Christians. Are you Christian? Are you for or against the war? Again forget the Pope, tell me what Jesus would do.
It's really a simple question.
I am sick of people saying, "What would Jesus do?" That is a cop out of dealing with the problems that face us now. If we are going to interject theocracy and or religion then we must ask how grounded are we in our faith to follow what our faith asks of us.
What does Jesus ask you to do? It is not WHAT WOULD JESUS DO?
But if you really a cruising for a bruising - I would venture to say Jesus would slap most of us in the face for making His Word, the Word of G-d, NULL AND OF NO EFFECT!
You can edit me Bernie, its okay-I am big enough to realize I am probably out of line here, but I LOATHE when people hide behind religion and or Jesus.
We must take responsibility for ourself and stop pushing it on others, religion, government, and more importantly Jesus because no one is doing what Jesus asked us to anyhow.
Hypocrites! PFFFFFFFT!
Really? Really? Are you that bad at logic?
Are you really trying to say that every time a christian does something it is for the big flying banner of Christianity?
Really? Really? Are you that bad at logic?
Are you really trying to say that every time a christian does something it is for the big flying banner of Christianity?
Hey substitute the word "Muslim" for Christian" and you may begin to understand why this blog and most of the comments on it are a farce.
Nate you appear to be presuming that it is acceptable to group all Muslims under one 'banner' but you balk when the same is done for Christians?
Augustine I see what you are getting at.
When a muslim does something in the name of Islam then yes it is for the big flying banner of Islam.
Likewise, when the governments of Arab countries are Islamist and thus adhering to the tenents of Islam, when they commit atrocities it must be assumed that they are representing the tenants of Islam. The same cannot be said of a liberal democracy even if it is populated by a majority religious group.
When a terrorist group does something under for 'the global jihad' that is the face of Islam that the world sees and is to judge. It is not our job to dig to discover the occasional diamond in the rough, it the job of civilizations to put their best face forward.
So Nate, what about when a Christian does something under the banner of Christianity? If it is a terrorist act, like bombing an abortion clinic, is that the face of Christianity that the world should see and judge or in this case do we expect them to see it as an aberration? Should we stand by and accept the rightful condemnation of groups and people like the Lambs of Christ, or Christoslavists, or Mark David Uhl as accurate condemnations of Christianity because of the acts of a few psychopaths?
My point in all this bickering is that it is a big world out there, and people who argue these close-minded opinions generally have never stepped foot out of their comfort zone. Although I'm 100% American, Christian, and white, I've lived in Iran and other places in the middle east, I've met individuals from these places and I've learned that it is not for me to judge an entire race or religion. If you don't get that single lesson for Jesus, you've missed the whole point. We are all free to use our rational minds to form opinions and choose our actions, but if when you start to think that you have it figured out enough to call an entire race or religion fraud then its time to take a step back and remember your humility.
And by the way, this is not "hiding behind religion and or Jesus" it is choosing to take Jesus as an example of the ideal way to lead one's life. We have no chance of succeeding but it is not a bad ideal. If anyone here has a better example for me to follow, I'm all ears.
Augustine, since it is not for you to judge, are you saying that you will not condemn the Nazis because that would be judging the many for the actions of a few?
Are you saying that because Islam pretends to be following in the tradition of Christianity and Judaism, that you will not judge the savage and barbaric system of laws known as Shariah?
When Christians behave savagely they are strongly condemned and no ecclesiastical polity sanctions, excuses, or condones the acts.
When Muslims behave savagely, honor killings, stonings, hanging of gays, etc, it is done not only with the knowledge of an Islamic government, but with its blessings and under its authority.
When Christians go wild, 99% of Christians are appalled. When Muslims go wild, hundreds of thousands celebrate in the streets, hang posters of the martyrs in their windows, pen poesies of their savagery, and dance in the street as they did on 9/11.
Please, there is no comparison.
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