The Texas Tech thing was disturbing enough (they have one win over a I-A school and it was Florida International or Florida Atlantic, or Southeastern Florida State A&M. There other two wins were against I-AA teams.

However, the Idaho thing takes the cake. The 5 votes means either 5 people voted them 25th (doubtful there are that many dope smokers on the Harris Poll) or some jackass voted them 21st? Huh?!?!? You mean the 0-4 team that got blown out by Hawaii and Washington?!?!?! Dude, pass that stuff over!
Irish Rat | Email | Homepage | 09.27.05 - 11:29 am | #

I have to think that the votes for Idaho are supposed to represent votes for Boise State. That the 1-2 Broncos got 5 votes is pretty bad, but not as bad as the 0-4 Vandals.

Of course, the fact that the poll could mix up Boise State and Idaho isn't exactly a glowing endorsement either.
Pat | Email | Homepage | 09.27.05 - 12:14 pm | #

FYI - instead of image leeching something like:
http://www.onlinepot.org/ reeferm...nessposter6.jpg

You're better off taking that image and either uploading it, or transloading it, to http://www.imageshack.us

This avoid two issues:
1. Getting complaints about bandwidth leeching
2. Getting your linked image replaced by an image of Marv Albert having a romantic rendezvous with a dominatrix named Miss Castration.
Bill | Email | Homepage | 09.27.05 - 1:00 pm | #

Is it just me, or does the Harris poll look exactly like the AP poll with a minor reshuffling of at teams 10-12 and at 18-20?

I'm sure none of the Harris voters use the AP poll as a guide!
Dante | Email | Homepage | 09.27.05 - 1:09 pm | #

That, and the Harris Poll fidiots vote for teams like Illinois and Idaho.
Bill | Email | Homepage | 09.27.05 - 1:16 pm | #

Hey, maybe those Harris poll idiots and their bizarro voting will get Notre Dame a sweet bowl berth with the ever-improving Illini. We'd love to see you pound Zook.
Orson Swindle | Email | Homepage | 09.27.05 - 2:44 pm | #

You guys have it all wrong. The Harris Poll is EXACTLY what we need. They don't start ranking until week 4! We all know how great those AP pre-rankings are (cough Louisville, Michigan, Iowa, Pittsburgh cough cough).

You're really getting upset with them for getting a few votes wrong in the first poll ever? Calm down...this is a first step in the exactly right direction. The kinks wil l work themselves out.
Ken | Email | Homepage | 09.27.05 - 7:41 pm | #

That's one hell of a kink having winless teams getting votes!
Kevin | Email | Homepage | 09.27.05 - 8:02 pm | #

With our pass defense, do you really think Tex Tech wouldn't put up a ton of points on us? Maybe we'd win, maybe we wouldn't, but I wouldn't be so quick to condemn someone for ranking them ahead of us. They'll get into conference play and if they stumble, this will correct itself. If they don't, then they're pretty good.
Nate | Email | Homepage | 09.27.05 - 8:19 pm | #

I'm watching the Fresno State/Toledo game (I know I'm sick) and the announcers, Gary Bender and The Pony had a couple interesting things to say about the Harris Poll:

In addition to the Idaho for Boise State theory stated above, the other possibility was that someone calling in their vote by phone was misunderstood to say "Idaho" when the said, "Iowa." What? Calling it in? What's next- telegraph? Pony Express (pun intended)?

They said some of the participants have been uninvolved with college football for 50 years. Gee, I didn't know Knute Rocke and Jay Berwanger were voting.

There are four undefeated teams with 0 points: Indiana, Baylor, Oklahoma State, and somebody else. Not that these teams are actually good, but even more interesting in light of the Idaho fiasco.

Of course, you did have the incredulously asking how Oklahoma, a team with Adrian Peterson, could get 0 points. Here's how Ponyboy: they suck.

At the end of the day, I agree with Ken. It's better than the AP idiots who vote primarily by reputation.

Boy, does Toledo suck- 44-7 and still in the 3rd.

Final thought and I'll shut up: the sideline chick just mentioned that Paul Pinegar, the QB for Fresno St. is in his 6th year. He was a grey shirt, then a red shirt, and now a 4 year starter. What the hell is a grey shirt?
Irish Rat | Email | Homepage | 09.27.05 - 11:28 pm | #

A grayshirt would be someone who signed an LOI to a D-1 school, then attended a community/junior college with no participation in sanctioned football events his first year.

This does three things:
1. Prevents eligibility burn
2. Allows the student to take real college courses at a lower level prior to entering the school
3. Shifts the scholarship burden to the following year

The SEC and Big XII schools probably use grayshirting the most, but I could be wrong.
Bill | Email | Homepage | 09.28.05 - 8:09 am | #