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Yeah the guy is so arrogant that he went into the USC locker room and congratulated them after a real heartbreaker. |
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Isn't the time before a game a pretty intense time of coordinating and thinking and directing and encouraging? I prefer a coach who doesn't spend that time screwing around with other coaches whether they're on his staff or the other team's. We should be grateful for this kind of rhetoric--smart money says it's already taped to each player's locker or on each piece of gear in the weight room--it stokes a fire in the guys that's already twice as hot as this time two years ago. |
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Yep, ND wasn't anything special. That's why we pantsed Purdue on ESPN, Sweetheart. The images of Brock Spack still bring a smile to my face. Sure, that was all just a good QB--nothing to do with planning, scheming, or anything. |
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Ugh. I still have terrible memories of watching the 1997 Purdue game (a 17-28 loss at Ross-Ade Stadium). A bunch of us were gathered in the dorm, watching the game. Bad enough to watch a bad loss, but it was even worse having to listen to the announcers call Joe Tiller "The Mastermind" approximately 8.7 million times over the course of the broadcast. |
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If you're asking stupid questions, is it really Charlie's fault that he chooses to ignore them? |
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I can understand his frustration; he knows he's going to be Charlies bitch for the duration of both of their careers. Not exactly something to look forward to. |
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It has to be a Big N coach. No other coach outside of the Big N would mention Mike Hart. |
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They say that being nice to your enemies is like putting a hot coal on their forehead. CW should compliment Purdue plenty and then pants them again. |
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I couldnt care less if Charlie ever talked to another coach before the game...his focus and attention to detail is amazing and a lot of that has to do with the hour leading up to game time...so it's fine by me if Mr. Quaker Oats gets ignored. |
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Check this link to see SI's 15 best college football plays of all time. The last play featured and ND's only mention: Leinert's last second ditch into the end zone. Ohh the pain, the pain... |
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"Mastermind", eat more oatmeal, it'll help your mental acuity. Since it's in vogue, maybe you can sell your Alamo Bowl ring on Ebay. |
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My guess is Tiller too, and there's no small amount of Hector Projector the comments if they're his. Insert the name "Drew Brees" for Quinn and you've got Tiller's experience at Purdue in the last few years. |
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The consensus on Irish Illustrated, after one of the mods claimed that it was a coach who beat us, was John L. Smith. Considering how high Smith was on Brady Quinn, and considering the reference to Mike Hart, I can see it. Smith also strikes me as the kind of guy who would try to joke and jape with the opposing coach before a game, instead of doing any actual work. |
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Who cares who said it...there's going to be a lot more of it as we keep winning and embarrassing other teams. Let's enjoy everyone else's sour grapes moments as we keep on succeeding. |
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Ohio State fans scare me: |
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That sounds like Tiller's plain-spokin' b.s. |
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Hell yes Charlie's arrogant as hell. Winning four Super Bowls and taking a sixth round Big 10 QB and making him into a 2-time Super Bowl MVP will do that to a person. |
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Arrogance is acceptable if you can back it up. That absolutely had to be a Big 11 coach, and with the Hart reference, it could only be Tiller or Smith. My bet is on Tiller, as we know the man has no class. I wonder how painful it was for him last year, watching what was supposed to be an incredibly talented and extremely experienced defense just get thoroughly demolished by "just a good QB". I will give him credit for the Mays comment though. I'm going to have nightmares until I see how the new kids step in for him and Hoyte this season. |
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I still like "Yukon Cornelius" for Tiller, the bumbling old asshole. |
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You guys are so full of yourselves. You don't know for sure who it is and you start your same ol bull by jumping on a bandwagon and trashing a coach. Typical ND fans. Tiller hasn't ever beed disrespectfull to ND but you just assume it's him. My guess is that it was John L Smith. But then again you all can't stand anything that's said unless it's sucking up to a mediocre ND team. All the person did was state the truth. |
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My God, is there no end with you people? |
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Joe Tiller, thanks for stopping by. Joe Tiller, everybody! |
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was both Pops Fisher (Brimley's character in "The Natural") and Hannibal from "The A Team" running that garbage. Tiller fielded a bunch of Quitters last year and Smith benefitted from a rare CW mistake in overtime and he knows that a beat down of biblical proportions is on the way and will hasten that severance check from MSU. Players like Hart who miss 8 weeks with a hang nail but have "potential" make me laugh. I will take Walker's 25 carrys and 130 yds every time, especially inside the 10. |
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Ignoring the mike hart comment, any chance it was fulmer, he's the same guy who reported Alabama to the NCAA for violations? |
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For the last time: Fat Charlie Weis did not "make" Tom Brady. |
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Okay, let's pretend it was John L. Smith then. He's just as bad as Tiller with his band of 50 yard line flag planting yard ape/Juco transfers, as well. |
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Yeah, Weis didn't "make" Brady. And he didn't make Curtis Martin. And he didn't make. . . It's pure coincidence that when CW has been a position coach/coordinator that the players he had to help develop early in their careers turned into Pro Bowlers. It's pure coincidence that the Notre Dame offense improved by leaps and bounds with nearly the exact same personnel. How could we have been so fooled?! |
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DJ: Excellent come back. |
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I believe your blog is way off course and as a result, so are these comments. Tiller has his opinions, but suffice to say he has rarely, if ever, been known to call out another head coach. |
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I believe your blog is way off course and as a result, so are these comments. Tiller has his opinions, but suffice to say he has rarely, if ever, been known to call out another head coach. |
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I'd say Fulmer or Smith. Fulmer is like Carr: wins the games he shouldn't and loses the games that were "gimmes." |
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What I question is how some on this fine blog came to the conclusion that it must have been Tiller. What HAS HE DONE in the past that makes folks here think he said this? |
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If limited to a choice between Tiller and Smith, I would choose Tiller. Smith, living and working in Michigan, would see, hear, and read about U-M on a regular basis, and would probably not have to resort to calling Mike Hart "the Michigan kid." |
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Exactly right DJ, who cares as long as Charlie is giving the old bastards a reason to be cranky. |
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Is there a link to that article? |
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People seem to have jumped to the conclusion that due to the reference to Hart (remember, in the direct quote he was called 'the Michigan kid') that therefore, it must've been a Big Ten coach. |
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the key to this is |
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For the visiting Purdue fans - |
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phat phil is sneaky,but those aren't his words.Bronco wouldn't say it either,nor would walt harris.I don't think paul johnson would say it. |
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Maybe it's Willingham. He's the only coach that would refer to himself in the third person. |
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now "that michigan kid" didn't even play purdue last year and stomped michigan state and even had a big run. |
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I was at a Brook Army Medical Center in San Antonio talking to a Colonel who is one of the cardiologists on staff. He happens to be a huge ND fan. We're talking ND football when a Lietenant walks in and he hears us discusing ND. He chimes in that he was a Purdue grad. The Colonel asks the young guy who invited him into the conversation, and to mind his own business. The Lieutenant walks out of the room with his head hanging low. I ask the Colonel if he was a bit too harsh on the young guy. He tells me the kid was lucky he didn't say he graduated from USC. |
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Although I don't think that Tiller has any love for ND (and vice versa), I kind of suspect it may have been Smith. |
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Willingham WOULD have tried to approach charlie weis before the game last year...but the language here doesn't fit his sparkle in his eye vague bullshit tone, anonymity or not. i agree-tiller. |
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People, people. Look outside the box. Tiller? Smith? That's too easy. An inside source (on the board at ND) says Weis said it about himself. It's the Art of War (which, incidentally, was Weis' favorite book growing up.) Cause paranoia amongst your enemies by plotting a conspiracy against yourself to detract your opponent's focus. It's also a hell of PR tactic. Pure Brilliance. Pure Charlie. |
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A mod on one of the ND boards said the quote came from a coach who beat ND last year. That means it couldn't be Tiller althoug it made sense to me too. That leaves us with John L. Smith, Poodle, and Tre$$el. I can't see Poodle because I think he knows Charlie is the real deal and wouldn't make a flippant remark about Brady and Willingham's coachin acumen. I'm thinking Smith, but wouldn't be surprised if it was tre$$el. |
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Sorry, who care who says this drivel? No one with integrety sends out comments like these anonymously. I'd be surprised if anyone ever said it. |
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Can't be Tiller -- he talks about guys returning on defense and being a year better....the exact opposite happened to him last year when he returned his entire starting defense and they proceeded to suck worse than any defense has sucked. |
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JF, |
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I'm a long time ND football fan and a big admirer of the program that Coach Weis is building. More than anything else, I've been impressed with the sense of professionalism that seems to characterize the team, as a single-minded focus on winning is a really great thing to see. |
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All this talk of is-it-Tiller-or-isn't-it notwithstanding, I love the anonymous quotes in the Sporting News' preview. It's raare that the comments are snarky. More frequently, the coaches they quote give insight thaat you'll never hear from: (a) the journalism interns they use to gather data for the preview issues (b) on-the-record coaches. |
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Did I just read comments about Purdue women from ND fans? When it comes to quality of women, Purdue is Venezuala or Columbia when compared to ND. Have you seem some of the girls at ND who look like teenage boys? ND has the market cornerd on Ugly chicks; that is why St. Mary exists....to improve the ugly ratio. |
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