Also, out of the preseason top 25, only Oklahoma, USC, and BYU finished about where they had been predicted.


This why the preseason rankings should be abolished. The only reason Georgia ended up at #13 is because they started at #1. If the preseason bias were removed the final poll would be even more representative of on-field performance (and Georgia would probably be unranked).


How do you figure Georgia would be unranked? They went 9-3 in the SEC east. They could have started the season unranked and they would still probably be where they are. I think you're point is excellent, just not in relation to Georgia.


Unranked may be a little harsh. However, consider their schedule:

They were 4-0 (against terrible opponents) when they lost to Alabama at home. Then they won 3 games against a terrible Tennessee team, a mediocre Vanderbilt team, and an overrated LSU team. Then they were destroyed by Florida. Then they squeaked by two more unranked teams (KY and Auburn). Ended the season losing to GA Tech. So basically they had maybe 1.5 quality wins (at LSU, Vandy).

Sagarin has them at 23 in his "predictor" rating which includes MOV. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume they might not be ranked had they not benefitted from a preseason #1 ranking.

This is a really long response and I'm sorry to still be typing. We both agree preseason rankings are terrible right? Right.


Big Red, if you keep having these conversations with yourself we're going to have to refer you to Jim Redundant's mental health professional for consultation.


Just looked at all the 1st & 2nd Team All-Frosh and All-Sophomore squads and threw up a little when I saw how many players Georgia had. They are just as young as we are and they are ranked at 9-3 playing in the SEC. We have a major player development issue. Do you guys think Georgia is only using 10 of its 15 available practices. I'm so pissed we aren't using all of them, has Weis not learned anything?


I've noticed that it's really only younger football fans who get upset about the polls and the preseason rankings, and this sort of thing, but most of the elderly fans don't seem to be as bothered by it.

"C'est la vie," say the old folks.


Curse-- excellent.


UGA is ranked about right. They were ranked #1 because the media always loves a good QB and RB. Not so different then 2006 when we worked ranked so high because of Quinn, Walker, et. al. Ultimately they lost almost their whole O and D Lines (which were very young as is) early. Add that to a defense (again similar to the 2006 Irish team) that gave up a lot of points against good offenses. They are a good team that won 9 games but certainly not elite. Mid-teens feels about right.


Let's say UGA started the year unranked. (To properly assume this POV, you probably have to regard Georgia as not being Jawja!, but rather like a mid-tier SEC team, like Ole Miss.) How would their season have played out in the rankings? Could they have made it to #16?

0 - start season unranked.

1&2 - beat Ga Southern and Central Michigan. Probably no rise.

3 - beat 1-1 South Carolina, who had lost to Vandy. Still unranked.

4 - beat 2-1 Arizona State. Maybe sneak into the top 25.

5 - lose to Alabama. Drop back out.

6 - beat a bad 2-3 Tennessee. No change. Wins over USC and ASU looking worse with their continuing losses.

7 - beat 1-loss Vanderbilt. First attention-grabbing win. Back into top 25.

8 - crush 5-1 LSU. Record now 7-1; vault into top 20, possibly top 15.

9 - lose badly to Florida, 49-10. Maybe hang in the top 25, but just barely.

10 - beat 6-3 Kentucky. Maybe jump up a spot or two.

11 - squeak by 5-loss Auburn. No change.

12 - lose to Georgia Tech. Possible drop.

This is just one scenario, but it makes sense to me. I think a preseason-unranked Georgia would have a hard time getting to #16, given the way their season played out.


I also think UM and ND also surprised me on how badly their seasons went. As of Dec. 6, ND is ranked 58 by Sagarin. UM is 90.


Maybe if ND had started the season ranked number 1, we'd maybe be 57th.


Auburn was ranked #10 preseason, but are nowhere to be found in the current rankings.

They have a new coach who will be paid $2 million per year who is bringing a two year record at Iowa State of 5 WINS.

Is that a gamble?


Just to be precise - Georgia is currently #16 and 'Georgia Tech' is #14.


http:// hawaiipreps.honoluluadver...late=PrepSports

There were several ND recruits in this game. Nick Tausch kicked a field goal. Shaquelle Evans had 4 receptions for 30 yards. I think Cierre Wood was there, but it looks like he had no carries. Anyone know why?


17 out of 25 preseason teams were in the red. Voters couldn't even get 50% on the right side of the predictions.


Remember when we thought if we beat UNC, we'd be ranked? Ahhh, the good old days.....


Hhhhmmm....whaddyaknow. The SEC with 3 highly overrated teams. That conference is consistently one of the better conferences, but rarely ever the best. The media's love affair with them gets old.


So, like, is there a prize for this, or something?


So let me get this straight, Georgia should be unranked at 9-3, but rather ended up at 16 simply because they started the pre-season no.1. Remember that next year when ND goes 9-3 against the softest schedule in ND history, becuase irish nation will go ape-shit if they are not in the top 10.


5 Visitors Online

Name:

Email:

URL:

Comment:  ?

Commenting by HaloScan.com