Can we get the Fire Kevin White website up? Is it 'that' bad that ND has to add USF to the schedule? Maybe Kent State is next. Figured he'd learn after the cupcakes the the Hoops team played this year. Who wants to pay $100 a ticket plus travel to watch the friggen storied program of USF?
Wardo4 | Email | Homepage | 01.24.08 - 1:49 pm | #

I actually think that USF is up and coming. By 2011, this might be one helluva a game. I just hope that USF will reciprocate and we play down in Tampa. This would also help recruiting in that state.
true2nd | Email | Homepage | 01.24.08 - 3:03 pm | #

In regards to Laws in the NFL, no doubt he will be a player. Whoever gets him will be very pleased. I also think Zibby can become a productive NFL player. He just needs to get with the right team for him to blossom.
true2nd | Email | Homepage | 01.24.08 - 3:05 pm | #

You left out the best part in that second article about Trevor:

"Laws is considered undersized (6-0, 297) by NFL standards for the tackle position, but don't tell him that. This guy is ferocious and scary. A real monster! I was afraid to shake his hand after practice in fear that he might eat me."

Plus, Cinci is interested in him and it'd be neat to see him reunited with Nedu.
Erik '04 | Email | Homepage | 01.24.08 - 3:10 pm | #

Check out EDSBS blog in the right hand margin. They think it's hilarious that the outlaws from USF are comin to the mecca of college football in '11.
jim masterson | Email | Homepage | 01.24.08 - 3:11 pm | #

So Hand is done for next year with a spinal cord injury? What a tough break, really looked forward to seeing him next year.
Mark | Email | Homepage | 01.24.08 - 3:27 pm | #

2 comments:

1) shocker on Trevor Laws. He plays with fire and can jump? well, at least everyone else who wasn't watching ND games are finally starting to recognize it. I still think he'll be a steal wherever he goes.

2) In all the USF articles, notice how jacked everyone is about ND tradition all of the sudden? What happened to ours being a "program of the past"? I don't mind playing USF, I just wish we could use that seemingly large opponent awe towards a real home field advantage. Sometimes it seems our players are in as much awe of playing in South Bend as the visitors are.
yak | Email | Homepage | 01.24.08 - 3:46 pm | #

Don't let USF's #2 ranking fool you. They have done well with little talent but aren't actually improving their talent level, and thats what they need to really be up-and coming. In 7 years they have recruited only seven 4- or 5-star players, and five of those were Juco or Prep School.
Steve R | Email | Homepage | 01.24.08 - 4:42 pm | #

Why any surprise/outrage/shock that we'd have USF on a future schedule? Don't we have a contract with the Big East to play 2-3 teams a year? Were some of you under the impression that those Big East teams would be limited to Pitt and Syracuse? I'd rather play USF than 'Cuse, that's for sure. Let's not denigrate an up and coming program that was ranked #2 at one point (admittedly, very wrongly) while we went 3-9. If we play a home and home with USF, that's cool.
Nate | Email | Homepage | 01.24.08 - 5:18 pm | #

Jim Leavitt, HC of USF, is a tremendous football coach and leader of young men. What he has done in only 11 years is remarkable. When he was hired, A.D. Leroy Selmon walked with him across a huge expanse of West Florida scrub land and then stopped and said something to the effect of "we are standing where the fifty yard line of the stadium will be". They are one of five majors in the state of FL, and with the burgeoning growth in the Sunshine State, he will surely attract and cultivate quality talent as he continues to build and strengthen the program. I have a lot of respect for what Jim Leavitt has accomplished. We can be sure that virtually everything he does from this day forward will entail some form of prep work to facilitate coming to South Bend and getting a victory.
When [name redacted] was fired, I yelled and screamed for Leavitt to get an interview, and I was dumbfounded to realize that he was not on anyone's radar at Notre Dame. (They only considered The Chinless Bee-yotch, Tom Clements, and Charlie.) He's on everybody's radar now, and he very well may be paid a king's ransom to coach somewhere else by 2011.
Voice in the Wilderness | Email | Homepage | 01.24.08 - 5:55 pm | #

i think that zibby could be the next john lynch and have a very good career. teh same goes for trevor and john. too many people overlook these 3 guys b/c they played on ND's team this year, but they were some bright spots. USF had a very good year, but struggled mightliy once they recieved national exposure. i dont know if they will be able to repeat their success in the future. it's too early to tell about this game.
jay | Email | Homepage | 01.24.08 - 6:21 pm | #

Laws is opening eyes. Check out this video from nfl.com:

http://www.nfl.com/videos; jsessi...9000d5d80634bde

Of course, in the interest of balance, it should be pointed out that the Sporting News wrote the following:

"Laws wasn't explosive off the ball, he did not shed blocks quickly and he wasn't involved in the play consistently."

It's like the SN scout read every one else's assessment of Laws and then decided to write the exact opposite.
jim | Email | Homepage | 01.24.08 - 6:28 pm | #

One thing that perplexes me is how our kickers are going to magically kick 10-20 yds. farther and straighter. I don't see any new recruits on the horizon or know how a new coach will fix this problem. Does anyone have any insights on this?
GB | Email | Homepage | 01.24.08 - 7:12 pm | #

Having watched Trevor Laws for 4 years, I have a hard time believing the SN scout. Are we sure the "scout" wasn't Mark May?
yak | Email | Homepage | 01.24.08 - 7:45 pm | #

Hey, I thought John Carlson said he was never going to wear the famed golden helmet again. Oh, I get it.
Joe Subway | Email | Homepage | 01.24.08 - 8:15 pm | #

Excellent video on Laws, but no surprise to ND fans. Why are the commentators surprised? Laws was the leading tackler amongst d-lineman in D1. Maybe they don't want to admit they snubbed him from the AA list.
BigE | Email | Homepage | 01.24.08 - 8:21 pm | #

More on Trevor Laws:

"Notre Dame DT Trevor Laws has shown up a number of times this week, and he did so Wednesday by scrapping a little bit with Ohio State OT Kirk Barton. Both men have looked solid this week, and they have tangled a number if times."
--Pro Football Weekly: http:// nflblogs.profootballweekl...ice_review.html

This is from some Raiders site. This person likes Laws a lot as a value pick: http://www.silverandblackpride.c...1/24/1620/ 98440

Now, I like Laws a lot, but filling Sapp's void is a pretty tall order, even if Sapp sucked last year.

More:
"Trevor Laws, DT, Notre Dame: Flashes nice penetration ability with a swim move over the guard's outside shoulder. Very effective on the slant, as well, as he's quick enough to make for a tough reach. A potential find for a team looking for a solid 3-technique pass rusher."

This link also includes some positive remarks about John Sullivan:
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/sto...b/story/ 7715608
jim | Email | Homepage | 01.24.08 - 8:26 pm | #

Urbie tripped up
indy | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 9:00 am | #

Apropos of nothing....how is it that this Jacobson women gets "suspended" for a few weeks, when anyone else who offends other religious, ethnic or national groups, get fired for life?
captain jack | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 10:56 am | #

I wouldn't say tht USF doesn't get much talent, they recruit better than Ty.....
Golden Domer | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 11:36 am | #

I have an idea. How about everyone just get over the Dana Jacobson thing and stop whining about how it's so unfair? Not to sound rude, but come on. It's over. Move on. If you really want to make a protest, stop watching First Take. I doubt that's a tall order for anybody.

Of all the guys, I really am rooting for Laws to go high. He deserves it. It doesn't surprise me that SN wasn't all that impressed with him; after all, this was the magazine that, in their draft guide a year ago, had BQ going in the 3rd round behind Kevin Kolb.

It's too bad about Carlson getting sick. I've noticed a lot of sites still have him as the #1 tight end, and it would have been nice if he had been able to cement that with a solid showing at the Senior Bowl. I guess he'll just have to focus on the Combine. I'll really be rooting for him there.
Jade | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 12:45 pm | #

jade,

come on, you can't just say drop it. The harsh reality is that there are many double standards in this country, and this one being a prime example. If Christians just sit back and say nothing, then do you think the double standard will ever change? I don't think so.
arirish | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 1:05 pm | #

Who knows? By 2011 Jim Leavitt might be at ND.
jazzarena | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 1:24 pm | #

F*** Notre Dame and F*** Touchdown Jesus have nothing to do with Christianity; it's the football program. It's no different than folks hear saying F*** Urbie, or F*** Poodle.

There are many out there who have not been privileged to encounter the magic of the place and feel that we are a bit unsufferable. They hear this talk about "God's Team" and take it all too seriously.

And I don't want Bill Donohue, a world-class, screaming jerk, defending me or anything I stand for, thank you very much.
ND67Aquajock | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 1:31 pm | #

arirish,

Simply to play devil's advocate, which is ironic in itself, I will say that Jesus himself would tell us to drop it and that sitting back is exactly what He'd do. "Turn the other cheek." At least she got suspended, for awhile we thought the whole thing was going to be ignored.
Erik '04 | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 1:51 pm | #

Did Imus get fired for less? If he said F*** The Black Hoes it wouldn't have taken so long for him to get fired.

The sad thing is that she has no talent and makes more money that I probably ever will.
Al Sharpton | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 2:01 pm | #

I remember seeing a couple of weeks ago that someone's brother worked at ESPN and disclaimed the F*** Jesus comment.

I know that I am a conspirarcy theorist but do you think that maybe he was told to say that in order to keep his job. ESPN has very quiet and refuses to release the tape of the event. I think they are hiding something and have put a gag order on it internally.

I also think that they could push a little harder on the Reggie Bush story.

Just some thoughts from one whacko that hates ESPN, but yet watches it daily.....
Anon | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 2:06 pm | #

When you ignore the insults, they feel they can do it with impunity.
captain jack | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 2:18 pm | #

"Silence means security, silence means approval," in the words of Michaels Stipe.
Hal | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 2:34 pm | #

I don't think what Jacobson said should be ignored. What she said was outrageously offensive and insensitive. But what I find most fascinating about this is that, in the beginning, nobody was calling for her to be fired. They just wanted ESPN to acknowledge the incident. ESPN did, and suddenly that wasn't enough; everyone wanted an apology. She apologized, and then everyone wanted to know why she wasn't being punished. Now she has been suspended, and that's still not enough for anyone. Why?

Let's not forget that nobody has been silent about this. All the emails that ESPN received about this (mostly from ND fans, I assume) were most likely the sole reason she was suspended. I believe in forgiveness, and I know everyone else on here does too. That's why it baffles me to see the bloodthirsty way everyone is going after her as though nothing will be made right unless she loses her job and her life is ruined. What will that accomplish, really? Not much, at least in my opinion.
Jade | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 2:48 pm | #

Jade,

It would get a hack off the air, and it might teach other hacks that shooting your mouth off in a way that demeans other people is not a viable way to advance your notoriety and career.

In short, it might teach some on-air people to be civil and to exercise some restraint, which is sorely lacking in that industry right now.

I'm not fighting you, Jade. I repsect you opinions on this board. And I agree that this is evolving into a tempest in a teapot.

But this lady deserves no protection. She speaks in public for a living. And if she can't do that well, she deserves the criticism.

If she were an accountant and fouled up an audit in a major major way, you'd expect she'd get fired, no? She failed miserably at he main job function.
Hal | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 2:57 pm | #

I'm starting to get sick of it too, but the story won't go away until ESPN shows the tape, and we can know once and for all if she stopped at Touchdown Jesus or went overboard and really said **** Jesus.
Tony Spilotro | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 2:57 pm | #

The tape is on Everyday Should Be Saturday's blog. Right Hand Margin. Under "Other Daily Blogs."
jim masterson | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 3:08 pm | #

WOW! Everyone needs to go listen NOW...
Tony Spilotro | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 3:39 pm | #

Here is a website that might give a little look into what went on.

http://thebiglead.com/?p=4318#more-4318

If that doesn't work, Jeffrey ross, one of the comedians there that night (I believe) has stated that she did say F*** Jesus.
David | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 3:41 pm | #

went to ESBS, no way that is Dana Jacobson.
David | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 3:50 pm | #

so, that was probably the least funny thing I've ever had to listen to. I kept waiting for it to get funny. I waded past the gay bashing, her saying she was drunk about a thousand times, the poorly executed cheap shots at Charlie's weight, and then BAM (F- Notre Dame, F- Jesus). It wasn't even funny. Sarah Silverman makes fun of Jesus and I laugh my ass off. This was just drunken ramblings of an idiot. I see why ESPN won't release it...

If it's actually real, the brother of whoever is obviously lying about something, because her words are pretty clear.

Has anyone ever heard a less attractive voice on a female? I think I'd rather have Gilbert Godfrey whispering sweet nothings in my ear at night...
NavyJoe | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 3:57 pm | #

I mean, I understand that it's probably a hoax...but even that's not funny.
NavyJoe | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 4:00 pm | #

The EDSBS "Dana" rant is a joke. Orson Swindle does this all the time. He got some sports talk radio guys in DC to bite a while back on a "story" about Les Miles calling out a little girl.

I'm afraid the next post on EDSBS on MGOBlog is going to be about the stupid Domers biting on Orson's joke.
DCDomer | Email | Homepage | 01.25.08 - 7:56 pm | #

Yup, I did bite on it briefly (better that than the old "atomic situp"), but that voice is just too demonic...if they'd done a better job there I would've totally bought it...

The "Ditka just called me a c*nt" line is great...
Tony Spilotro | Email | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 9:00 am | #

SBT reports that Page and the fellow from Texas A&M did not commit to ND. Lemming said it does not look good for Martin.
http://www.southbendtribune.com/...408/1021/ Sports
GB | Email | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 10:23 am | #

Anyone that doesn't realize that EDSBS's clip is a joke is a complete fool.
lighten up | Email | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 12:02 pm | #

So why can't ND add another SEC team [really no offense to USF} instead ?

The scheduling policy of the AD is a disaster . Save for the most rabid of fans such scheduling produces little interest in the ND program.

Outside the SEC how about adding an ACC team ? Another Big Ten team such as Illinois would attract both Chicago and national interest as well.

In fact Steve Orsini would be an outstanding replacement for our current AD. Read his bio at the SMU sight.
Dana Payne | Email | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 2:02 pm | #

JUst turned on the Senior Bowl on NFL net watched Laws make 3 tackles and listened to the announcers give each stop to someone else. Hopefully the scouts pay better attention. Zibby with the fumble recovery.
Domer Dan | Email | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 4:47 pm | #

Laws with a pressure and fumble recovery from the SOuth QB!
Domer Dan | Email | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 4:53 pm | #

Dana Payne:
Steve Orsini lived next door to me when I was at ND. He is a class act who loves ND and I absolutely agree--he would make a great AD. It is time to ask for White's resignation and replace him with someone who "bleeds blue and gold".
Lush | Email | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 6:24 pm | #

Can't pull the wool over your eyes light.
jim masterson | Email | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 6:26 pm | #

Dana Payne and Lush, add me to the Steve Orsini Appreciation Platoon (SOAP). He just installed June Jones as the HC at SMU, and now it is time to come home. (If not Steve, the hiring his old teammate, Gene Smith, current tOSU A.D., would absolutely infuriate John Saunders and Mark May.)
Voice in the Wilderness | Email | Homepage | 01.26.08 - 9:18 pm | #

Voice,

It seems that Orsini is restoring integrity at SMU...graduation rates etc. I'd give the nod to Steve.
Dana Payne | Email | Homepage | 01.27.08 - 1:29 am | #

A small quibble... I have always had an aversion to addressing anyone in the non Medical field as "Doctor"

While I merely have a Masters degree , I always noticed that the academicians in more taxing fields were less inclined {if at all} to be referred to as "Doctor"

I fear that at this point at least that the current AD department is not what the "Doctor " { MD} ordered.

Football scheduling by the in house "doctor" is threatening to make the ND program uninteresting.

Once you are unintersting you become irrelevant.
Dana Payne | Email | Homepage | 01.27.08 - 1:44 am | #

Being " uninteresting" as well makes you irrelevant.
Dana Payne | Email | Homepage | 01.27.08 - 1:48 am | #

Hal, I would tend to agree with you on making an example of her except that it wouldn't work. Idiots will be idiots no matter what happens to the idiots before them. And I also must disagree with your point about how an accountant would lose their job after screwing up an audit. Jacobson wasn't doing her job at the Roast. She wasn't at work, really. If she had said that on air at ESPN, then yes, absolutely fire her. But she wasn't at work, so I'll have to disagree with you there.

And now, I am finally done with this topic. I promise.
Jade | Email | Homepage | 01.27.08 - 9:27 am | #