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First in! |
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Go Irish! Torpedo the University of Navy! |
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here we go |
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how is it possible that my brand spanking new DSL connection is worse than the portable USB connection i've had previously this fall... ugh |
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Cool! Love the jets! |
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I must say i do love this rivalry |
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Domer -- must be Verizon -- there DSL service is very spotty at times. |
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Greetings from Incheon - 4:43 am here. Kick-off yet?? |
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not yet hipdad |
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ha... no... I live in Florence, Italy not Florence, AZ. There is no verizon over here. ;-) |
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i totally missed the floyd announcement |
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Shaun -- it is a great rivalry. ND and the Naval Academy are united by blood in war -- there is something special about this. |
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im kinda nervous about Floyd coming back so soon |
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domer -- Still, I suspect your signal is running through a line Verizon owns. ;-) |
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I second that epe - I was at the 2005 game, when CW took the team over for the Navy Alma Mater. It was really special. |
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Looks like a beautiful day in SB |
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Epee - Im glad its become more competitive as well, although id still like that streak in tact |
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ha.... vodafone might just be a verizon subsidiary. |
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the audio is streaming more or less perfectly, btu the video is extremely choppy. grrrr. Curse you Justintv!!! |
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domer -- lived and studied in Italy (Bologna). Favorite Italian city -- Florence. You are lucky to be there. Colorful history on every street. |
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Wow, didn't take long to get MF involved. |
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man... parris is just getting abused lately. |
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Florence is ok...I liked Pisa more |
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yeah but he still comes back for more |
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Pisa has nothing but a tower!!! and they don't even know how to build that!!! |
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Oh man. Is this going to go against us? |
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I have family (Domers) at the game with Navy midshipmen. Great respect all around. |
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Navy ball |
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i dont understand whats being challenged here? it should be Navy's ball |
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Florence has nothing but tourists EVERYWHERE. At least in Pisa you can avoid them most of the time. |
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As a historian I like Florence -- for relaxation I would go to Verona. |
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As the Florentines say, |
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My whole freaking family is at this game... |
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And for meals -- Bologna. |
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domer -- what are you doing in Florence? |
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Anyone know which conferene the refs are from? Big East? |
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Not a great way to start |
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Well...guess I'll start drinking |
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Verona is great! and it has one of the best wine bars in Italy... |
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Big East refs |
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And Robby Parris goes to the bench for a while. |
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DayBreak -- too bad -- family tells me it is beautiful at ND today. We usually had snow by now! |
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I'm an art historian. Finishing my dissertation... and applying for jobs. not a good year to be on the market. |
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Epee, tell me about it. I'm from Elkhart! |
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Was that play not whistled dead before the fumble was recovered by Navy? |
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I live in Muncie,IN and it is most definitely unseasonably warm today |
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Domer - ouch. What is your dissertation topic? |
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BKB: That's what I thought, but apparently not. |
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BKB -- yep, I thought the whistle killed the play before the fumble. |
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Small-format religious paintings (mostly suffering CHrist) by Titian. Yes, he's Venetian. I should be up there, but the best libraries in Italy are all in Florence. |
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Yes!! Williams!! |
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CLEARLY heard whistles on that play. |
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i was beginning to wonder if Tenuta and Brown prepared for the game |
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wow... that was the ugliest completion since Tebow doublt-clutch pass two years ago |
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domer -- Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies |
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Sort of here...didn't think my internet could be worse than in Kabul, but it is. No audio or video for me right now. |
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I was figuring as much... when were you at JHU? That's where I'm getting phd. I studied at the (former) Villa Spelman twice. |
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Titian paintings -- very nice subject. |
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4th and a foot - TO navy. |
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God... apparently I can't multitask. In trying to type and watch the game I guess I just randomly leave words out of sentences... oops. |
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Hopkins from 78-80 |
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Well, then I guess we would not have crossed paths in beautiful Bmore. |
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Domer, |
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It was rough time in Bologna, well all ofItaly really. It was the height of the Red Brigade, Aldo Moro kidnapping and murder. Bologna train station blown up with 80 killed. |
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we aint doing so great. giving Navy Momentum is always a bad idea |
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Day break, that's why I close all word processing applications during game time. |
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Iowa lost?! God damn it. Now tOSU gets another share of the BIG 10! |
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OK, so how much of a pounding can Dobbs knee take? How bad was it hurt? Can he keep running the ball? |
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Wow... yeah... that's an Italy that I never saw (thankfully). Now it is mostly drunken american students and/or high american students murdering Italians with shards of broken glass (real story from Florence last may) |
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That is one of the best dissertation stories I have ever heard!!!!!! |
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stop em here, boys!!! |
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Come on D! |
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Need a Washington State kind of goal line stand! No Navy points! |
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4th and goal at the one - another Navy TO |
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navys burnin through the timeouts...wonder if that will hinder them down the road? |
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domer -- I read about the murder -- that is one creepy case. |
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This pumpkin beer chicken better be good |
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needless to say the student was from Michigan State. |
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domer -- I forgot about that. |
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MSU is the white-trashiest school in the Big 10 by far |
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Man. Apparently there are some Navy guys nearby. just heard a huge cheer from my porch. |
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Haden -- not that efficient a drive -- can't use 2 TOs every drive. |
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I think a key to this game is giving the defense enough rest... |
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Recently read The Monster of Florence - worst criminal justice system in the world! |
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Nothing more boring than watching Navy, except maybe watching Georgia Tech |
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I'd say Italy in general is the worse criminal system in the world |
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OK, DayBreak -- we need Jimmy and the boys to get your cheering going. |
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Shaun: Are you serious? The triple option is awesome. |
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I love old school option football. when its not scoring against us... |
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Quite serious |
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Nate -- you getting anything yet in Herat? |
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Clausen oughta have 350 passing yards and 4 TDs or I'm gonna be upset |
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I though having Floyd back would open things up downfield.. |
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Would like the TV folks to show downfield. Wow, Kyle was being held on that previous play. |
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well there you go |
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haha nice to have him back |
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MF for 24 |
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Shaun, ask and you shall receive |
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wow... now I'm note even getting good streaming audio... really have no idea what is happening on this drive |
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Irish 3 and 8 |
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pass to Kyle, short of 1st down |
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Is it me or do 5 Navy guys make every tackle |
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FG attempt from 42 no good |
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Ugh |
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damn... well, he's still better than Sanson. |
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UGLY ... UGLY ... ugh |
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so ends the record |
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Argh. Charlie, can we pretty please wake up? |
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Why does everything have to be so damn hard with this team! This season is turning me gray! |
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I been a Yesfan for 40 years but I'm getting sick of hearing Your Move used in this commercial. |
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not liking the wildcat there. charlie just cannot resist showing us how smart he is |
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Nobody at all on the option man. What the hell? Did we not practice at all? |
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If we don't get a stop, I might go back to bed. |
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domer -- Navy just had a 32 yard gain on a pitch counteroption. |
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Running a guy over and over coming back from a knee injury -- wow. |
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So, we have the worse head coach in college football right? |
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Navy picks up a 2nd and 8. |
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Wife is trying, Epee, but this internet is so bad it's hard for me to even refresh the BGS comments. I may just go to bed. |
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I don't think we deserve an afternoon of this typical BS |
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We have the worst defense in college football |
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not much of an argument that we have a deplorable defense. |
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Just short a few inches short -- 3rd down. |
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stream is slowly coming back.... and i'm not liking what I see. man... we used to BE an option team, how can we not defend it! |
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I wonder if that Cincinati guy would come to South Bend |
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...and I thought run defense had been looking better in the past couple of games. |
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welcome nate!!! |
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3 yards for a 1st down. Navy at the 30 |
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Are we looking ahead to Pitt? |
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Tenuta said he's seen every option known to man. Brhahahaha. |
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I like how Weiss has adjusted his offense the last four games to the pass defense...oh wait... |
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TEMPLE beat navy, fellas |
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starting to worry. we cant score if we cant get the ball |
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Although Temple isn't the doormat it was in the past. |
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It looks like we play less than 11 and they play more. |
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Andrew: Can we score with the ball? Eight thousand dump-offs aren't going to win a game. |
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The books should be closed on Weiss if this is a loss |
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Just like Duke isn't a doormat this year. |
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Coach Weis. You call, we haul, you all. |
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Epee- a continuous barrage of Cortisone shots? |
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Tenunta was suppossed to take ND's defense to the next level right? |
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An improved Temple beat Navy - but Navy gave tOSU all it could handle - and no one says that the Buckeye defense is weak - they held USC to 16 points. |
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Is the 1st qtr. still alive? |
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Navy injury is the hold up. 2nd quarter coming up. |
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There is not ONE football player on either Navy or Temple that ND would give a glance towards. |
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"Christ-centered values?" |
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where is Armando Allen? |
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navys offense is built for holding a lead...they go up two scores and we are in serious trouble |
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wait, are we really making excuses using temple football? really? really? |
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45 minutes to play the 1st qtr.? The review of Parris' fumble, a blind man could see and it took the Big Least officials ten minutes. |
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Anon: he's hurt and not playing today. |
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AA isn't playing in this game |
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where is Armando Allen? |
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Time for a turnover! |
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Easy TD up the middle. |
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Hey Temple just beat Miami. |
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Navy TD. Goddammit. |
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There's no reason to panic. There's no reason to panic. There's no reason to panic. There's no reason to panic. There's no reason to panic. There's no reason to panic. |
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Well, my comment was not an excuse at all - I despise what CW has done to ND FB. But in terms of Navy, the whole is always greater than the sum of its parts. They're a good 6-2 team who gave a national power a hard fight. |
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oh boy... |
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My man Theo Riddick is primed and pumped, where is he? |
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WTF! |
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OK, this should get the O fired up. Now about that D. |
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Who really wants to play in a BCS bowl? |
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What was the line? 10 pts.+ |
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BCS - BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! |
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128 - 2 RY |
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a loss to navy and charlie should be gone. enough is enough. i want him to be successful, but a loss to navy at home is too much. just too much |
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Maybe Theo will purposly run into tacklers again, oh I hope so! |
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Even aside from this game - we aren't ready for a BCS game yet. Anyone remember the last two? |
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Navy will be CW's AF to Gerry Faust. |
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good call jim |
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well, Navy may be much improved this year, but we do not look like a BCS team at this point. |
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At least the kickoff squad is looking for the squibb kick. |
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as Ive said many times here: we need to change to TURF. get some GD TURF !!!!! |
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Thank God we have all that speed...oh wait a minute |
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What the frak nerds! Let's get it going |
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What's with the constant changing of personal? Can anyone get any rythmn |
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have to score a td this drive. have to |
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"schematic advantage." |
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OK, pass to Floyd for a first down. In Navy territory. |
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I dont want Weis to succeed. I want him to leave and return at least 50% of the money he bilked from ND |
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Jesus is Golden even on the field? |
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Man. Riddick runs hard! |
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Riddick to about the 30. Second an d 4 or so. |
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This is going to be a long day. |
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Riddick runs hard? |
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DBB, he's only making $500k, ya get what ya pay for. |
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Great Riddick run for 19 yards! |
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Yes, he runs hard |
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What is the over under on how many times the word effort is used today? |
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DayBreakBoys: That's incredibly stupid. Wanting Weis to fail is wanting ND to fail. Find someone else to cheer for if you can't separate disliking the coach from cheering for the team. |
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Pass to Floyd, OOB at about the 4. |
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Mike - I may have to disagree |
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GO IRISH |
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Hayden and Hammond are worse then Sterling of the Jankees, and that's hard to beat. |
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Somebody want to explain just what in the gee-golly fuck is going on? |
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The negativity is sickening, there's a lot of football left to be played |
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Riddick to about the 2 o |
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1st and goal ND at the 2. |
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Another good call jim |
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I love ND. And CW. Brhahahahaha. |
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We should still win this, but the performance thus far has been mediocre - typical of the glorious Weis tenure at ND. |
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Hughes loss of 2 |
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And Robert Hughes completely misses the hole, runs backwards, fails miserably. |
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Shaun - this game is sickening and if the team doesn't gather their shit there's a lot of negativity left to come. |
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CW is Digger's long lost bro, from Joisey. |
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Hughes sucks but I guess I shoudn't be so negative |
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Hughes to the 3. Why not pass? |
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Golden Tate wears number 83? Don't worry about get the numbers right pat. |
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C'mon. The DB can't cutoff the route. |
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Why go to Hughes after Riddick was picking up nice gains? WHy? Why? Why? |
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Dan, there's a difference between hoping the team fails and recognizing a bad play. Try not to be an idiot. |
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Didn't see that coming! |
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I think we lose if we don't get 7 here |
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Mike, lay off Dan, he paid me a compliment and is now my new bestest friend. |
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Pass to Floyd in the corner doesn't come off because Floyd and the DB fall down. |
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Don't get nasty mike |
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Pass interference not called. 4th down. ND TO. |
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oh boy oh boy... |
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Mike shut your mouth if you don't know what you're talking about. I was responding to someone elses comments. You took my comment out of context. |
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No we don't lose if we don't get 7. This team came back from 20 down against USC, which despite its loss to O plays at a different level than we do, esp. on defense. We just have to wake up. |
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Nate has decided to go on a highly dangerous mission in Afghan, rather then watch this shit. |
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Gosh dan, I suppose you're right. The definition of fan could, I suppose, include hoping the team you're a fan of fails. |
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Can we all agree that ND plays down to the comp? |
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yes |
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wow, i really dislike that call. don't go for it on 4th down. |
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This is humiliating. |
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Poop |
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stupid call. |
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Great call, coach. Roll out your injured QB. |
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And if winning this game means that the bleeding won't stop rather than Weis being gone well.... |
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Pass incomplete. |
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Dan, |
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2 drives no points. So much for offensive genius. And you know - you just gotta say something about decided schematic advantage each week. |
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case rested |
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Good rush forces pass. |
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oh jeez. we are in trouble now. |
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crap... the GF unexpectedly comes home, I take my eye off the (finally streaming decently) game for 4 minutes and we turn it over on down on the 2? Fuck... time to switch from wine to whiskey |
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COME ON D! PLEASE! |
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Dobbs dropped at the 9. 3rd and 4 |
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Please punt |
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thank god. he didn't get the first down. and the flag is not against us. |
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OK, so Domer -- you are getting the feed? Nate, how about you? |
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The thing is, I don't see how you fire Weis. Word is the players love him |
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block this punt!!! |
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WOW! Don't expect that from a Navy player! |
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Dobbs the 9th QB that will be in the Heisman hunt after ND. |
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that guy is headed for Afghanistan. |
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Navy's dirty...where's the respect? |
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Listening to the broadcast on Navy's radio network here in Maryland, I can hear the reliably-snarky John Feinstein. He and the others on the broacast team have repeatedly expressed astonishment that the ND defense doesn't have anyone over the Navy center. After the second Navy TD, Feinstein said: " "I realize Charlie Weis is the smartest coach in the history of football; you could just ask him. But they're going to have to make a defensive adjustment." |
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Dumb PF on Navy. Punt, Goodman returns 12 yards to Navy 45. |
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so do victims of abusive relationships. inappropriate, i know, kuatb. |
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The players wanted Davie hired too. There is a reason nobody listens to 22-year-olds. |
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epe... finally the net seems to be on my side... I may be a bit behind though. on my stream we just got the ball back with 7:41 left. Is that were the game is actually at? |
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Have to agree with the announcer gjk |
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Inappropriate but funny |
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Defense? Adjustment? Weis? same sentence? I think not... |
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Hate that underarmor commercial |
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gjk71, |
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I enjoy both ninjas and assasains |
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Let's revisit the call for Parris to be on the field at the beginning of the game. The kid didn't take a snap in two weeks, so......where's Goodman, Walker, Evans, Toma, Ragone, no, Parris and he coughs it up on a hit. |
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GJK, have a crabcake for me and voiceinthewilderness!!! |
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no score here, no win |
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Listening? Isn't NBC showing the game in MD? Or don't you like Hammond/Haden and figure even the Nav announcers are better? |
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grabcake! quit distracting me! |
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It's not always ND playing down, it's other teams playing up. I couldn't believe how psyched people were to take us on each week. Even when we were clobbering them they would cheer their slightest good performance. |
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Domer, |
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Are we resting Tate for the Pitt game? |
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domer -- just under 7 minutes -- think you are in real time. |
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I thought we had a guy named Tate on the team....there he is... |
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what do you mean defensive adjustment? didn't you hear tenuta say that he "knows every option attack in the world"? |
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yuengling! I'm so distracted now! |
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would tate ever hand off? |
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riddick is playing on a mission today. |
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Put Theo in, KEEP Theo in, Give Theo the dang ball! |
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Riddick for the 1st down. Irish at the 14 |
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More Riddick, please. |
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Oh no...approaching the red zone. |
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pass to Floyd for 7 |
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Never thought the Red Zone would be the dead zone for the Irish |
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I love riddick, I would like to take him behind the middle school and get him pregnant |
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riddick stuffed. flag down. |
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Why are we not throwing deep at all? |
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we had 5 in the backfield? why are we sucking so much inside the 5? |
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Illegal formation, (maybe helps with more passing room.) |
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tate into the band again. |
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Pass to Tate OOB, into the band again. |
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Holding on the CB? I know Tate is superhuman, but it's illegal to grab his arms on the route. |
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clausens pass a little high to tate. incomplete. |
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Anyone else think that was PI on first pass to tate? |
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Incomplete to Tate. 4th and 9. |
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We are getting blanked by Navy...at home |
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OH MY SWEET GOD |
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Tausch misses Fg again. |
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wheels are off. |
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second missed field goal. is this 2008? we are getting stuffed on runs and cannot make field goals. |
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Sweet merciful Jesus. Nothing is going right. |
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BLAM! |
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charlie's job and jimmy heisman are both gone today. look at the bright side; jimmy will need to stay. he is falling off big time |
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We are STILL getting blanked by Navy...at home |
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Yes to the PI comments. Lots of defensive holding before the passes and PI after. |
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Navy gets the ball 2nd half - knock off 7 minutes available to us right away... |
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I have 6 tickets to the ND vs Pitt game. |
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a lot of game to play. defense did well in the last series and offense just needs to wake up. |
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statement redacted. |
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Nate -- you still need commentary? |
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"Doc, what is it?!" |
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DayBreakBoys, |
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R U SHITTIN ME???? |
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One consequence of the Davie/Ty?CW years is that Clausen would have to be 20% better than anyone else to win the Heisman. We have lost so much credibility that he is mentioned as a courtesy to the 18 TD/2INT. |
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Is Haden bragging about the Defense? |
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3rd & long coming up. |
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i love that we go straight for the guy who will get the pitch and avoid the guy with the ball. |
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Nate, or anyone else, let me know if you need me to type what is happening. |
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Lookin' in the recipe book now... |
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this is pathetic... it was better when Icould barely see the game. |
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I thought it was our PASS defense that was weak.... |
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can't score in the red zone because we can't line up and run the ball. only effective runs we ever have are draws or when there's a large field with our wideout threats. when it's a short field, it doesn't fool anyone. weis never has been able to run the ball...same thing with the patriots...all draws and play action set up runs. |
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I'm actually embarrassed to be a Notre Dame fan right now. |
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We should be seeing a turnover some time by Navy. Lots of opprtunities for it. |
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How sad is it that we are running out of time and its not even half time. |
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Is it me or do the players look like a bunch of pretty boys? I mean H. Smith looks like a girl - Parris? Come on. They look like a bunch of pretty surfer girls. Get a freeakin haircut! |
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Ah, the happy memories of 2007! |
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what sucks is my coworker who hates notre dame is watching in the stadium on the 40 yard line. fudge. |
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I watched my brother's high school team play better than this last night. |
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We should be more positive |
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harrison smith has never done anything to sabotage the team, has he?? lol |
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I cant believe what I'm seeing |
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If they get a TD and the ball for 2nd half.... |
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For anyone interested, "For Sale" sign party and 8:30 sharp in Charlie's front yard. |
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i might have to find some yard work to do. |
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Were Charlie Weis and Jabba the Hutt separated at birth? |
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We make every offense look god. |
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I'm going to go find some work to do. |
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this is not looking good. Not sure I want to watch the second half. |
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god damn it. Please fire Weis. When did it become ok for Notre Dame to struggle against GIMME GAMES. |
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Parris lead the pretty boy cause. Did anyone see him fix his hair when he fumbled the ball? Rewind if you doubt it. And what is up with the pink hair strands? I will eat my words if he is supporting a breast cancer survivor. |
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No need for personal fat jokes - that is crossing the line. I do think Weis, while arrogant, is a standup guy. |
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Forget it DayBreak. The CW apologists came along after ND football meant something. |
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Parris is supporting Breast cancer awareness but still... |
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Heck, throughout the year most of our defensive stops have been via the dropped pass. Since Navy doesn't pass, we shouldn't be surprised we can't stop them. |
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Parris is doing it for breast cancer awareness. |
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Defending the option requires tremendous discipline, and for the DBs to be able to fight off blocks and stick to RB like glue. Navy is doing a great job executing the option, but ND's DBs are not getting up to the LOS, fighting off their blocks and remaining committed to their assignment. |
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Eat your words, Chef. |
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WeAreSC is right as is ggGK about putting someone over center. |
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WIDE RIGHT! COME BACK TIME! |
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Good observations WeAreSC |
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I stand corrected on the pink strand - seriously. |
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Yes, ND's Defense is read then react - then it is too late! |
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Its ok chef - he still needs a haircut and a head in the game today |
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Of course Charlie is a standup guy. |
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Weis is a great recruiter, but damn if the play calling most of the year hasn't been awful. I can't say fire him, but at least get an O-coordinator or something. |
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harrison smith should be made to get flattop haircut at the half |
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Fair enough. It's what he does--and says-- when he stands up that bothers me. |
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imac - would Weis give uo the OC duties? |
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So, how about the Pitt game? What is going to happen ya think? |
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No time to panic. Navy will tire and make turnovers. Expect some big ND offensive plays for TDs rather than playing through the red zone. |
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PITT will not be pretty. I am just sayin' |
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Oh boy- how is Charlie going to execute his signature 3rd quarter slump? |
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McCoy may well have nailed the Heisman today - 438 yds 2TD. |
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Uglier than what we're seeing now you mean? |
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Weis does recruit but if he keeps up his field antics those recruits will go elsewhere. |
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Epee, I really admire your ability to see the good in anything. What I just saw in 2 quarters could not let me say a single positive word. Are you a CEO or a pastor or something? |
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Weis really should just switch to OC, that's the best he's ever going to be anywhere after this tenure anyway. And, I suspect that's all he wants to be after this tenure. |
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yes OC, even worse. |
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epee - don't see the big plays - last four defenses have taken them away and Charlie hasn't adjusted. If we can find the right running back and keep them in it may help. |
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No, a former ND athlete. I'd like to think we still don't give up. |
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Dan - I seriously doubt it. But I hate to give up his recruiting. This is by far the best influx of talent in recent history and I think it's mostly Charlie's doing. |
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i'm currently in class following the game on gamecast. i'm almost glad that i can't see the actual plays. watching the drive charts develop is sickening enough!!! |
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14 points surely isn't insurmountable. |
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danirish, that is the other half of the equation. Riddick gets going, and the passing game will open up. |
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weis...OC? really? in the NFL, i guess. just doesn't get the college game. tries too hard to out-think the other guy. |
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these beers don't go down my esophagus fast enough. |
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Well, another chapter in the loooong decline of ND football. I was there in the stands when Gordon's kick sailed through the uprights. Things haven't been the same since. I always though CW was too cute in NE even while winning all those SBs. But that was all Brady/Belichick. He'd never stick with what was working. |
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Hopefully Charlie is making half time adjustments right now... |
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i don't think the irish took navy seriously enough. as if they have any latitude to undersetimate any foe |
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Hey everyone, I've watched the blog for a while but this is my first time chipping in. It's still early, but I just wanted to point out that Stanford is up 17-7 on #8 Oregon... |
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Can't believe people still say Oregawn. |
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Hi NDFollower -- welcome! |
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Onehipdad - Annoying, isn't it? |
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Where was the fire Charlie crowd last Saturday? I find it disgusting that some of you clowns only show up when it looks like you will have something to bitch about. How Ghey |
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Thanks, Hammond for bringing up that Navy lost to Temple last week. |
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I think next year, CW will be the offensive coordinator for the Cleveland Browns |
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Haha yeah, I grew up in the SF Bay Area and never heard the Oregawn pronunciation until I left the West Coast |
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Ha ha! Maybe they should work on the administration - they seem to have lost their way and are blind - instead of Zebra fish. |
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it is. Way worse than Warshington. |
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zebra fish? crazy. |
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Geez, Stanford is leading Oregon 17-7. Could be a long next four weeks. |
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Don't look now but Temple is bowl-eligible. |
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This might be a stupid question, but during the BC game my friends and I saw Golden reaching for his shoulder quite a bit, seemed to be slowing him down - has there been any word about a GT injury? |
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touchback |
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There you go everyone -- a touchback! |
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aaronb - Good point. And if we end up losing this, any, or every game, who cares? Real ND fans know it's not 1940 anymore! |
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Is that the FIRST touchback all season?? I think we might have a kicker here! Come on, gotta have one positive here people! |
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Charlie called the kickoff to the 15. Kid didnt listen. |
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Whoa! Somebody covered the pitch guy! |
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LOL and well said Obie. |
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Kaaaaahhhhnnnnnn!!!!!!!!! |
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Oh yeah. Couldn't see that coming. |
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The defense needs to keep disciplined. Overplaying ball coverage. |
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Cover the outside guy...... Jeezbus this is a HS offense. |
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This looks too easy, doesn't it? |
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where was the DB???? Navy doesn't throw. Bring up the DB and take away the pitch. Let Navy beat you with the pass. |
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This is embarrassing. You'd think ND had never played against the option. |
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Here we go...3rd down again |
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It's not 1940 anymore. |
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Watching NAvy pick up 1st down after 1st down is really aggravating. Same basic play over and over and yet they succeed. |
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thats how you defend the pitch |
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This defense is pathetic. When Weis leaves, he should take Tenuta with him |
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ZOMG zergling naval rush! |
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Aaron, Navy has beat ND in nearly every facet of the game today. They are beating them so badly MY ass hurts. |
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let's stop a 3rd and 5. NOW! |
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Bring the DBs up - 5 yards off WRs. DBs should be reading the guards. If they move forward or pull, then their assignment is the RB. If the Guards drop back in pass protection, then play the WR. |
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There you go. |
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Hell, go for it |
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I'm having a tough time deciding who is a worse tackler Brian or Harrison Smith.... |
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aaronb "After the game then the discussion can start." |
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That was a gift. Can't believe Navy didn't actually go for it. |
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THROW IT DEEP, Weis! You have arguably the two best WRs and QB in the game. |
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Would never happen if we had gotten Urban |
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Would never happen if we had gotten Urban |
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Urban is pure scum...but I agree with you. |
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Well, Urban comes with a freight car worth of baggage. The suspension thing was an embarrassing farce for UF. |
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OK, Haden, so how perfect is Navy? How about bad clock management at the end of the first half? Anyone notice the expression of the Navy coach after the penalty when he saw the clock still running? Probably not that big a deal as he couldn't turn to the pass to help get yards and/or stop the clock. |
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Oh, and this UnderArmour commercial disgusts me. Let's thug up our 8 year olds in peewee football. Great idea. |
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THERE! |
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who threw that last block --perfect. |
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We've moved the ball between the 20's |
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Thanks for that analysis of what actually happened, Tom! Why can't he be as entertaining as Madden while stating the obvious?? |
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that was a lazy play-fake. |
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imac - agree! |
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WHY not use the NO HUDDLE ????? |
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Agree, belocki - my 80 year old mother said the same thing! |
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We really need to score on this drive... |
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Do we have anyone playing tight end today? |
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Holy crap tuned in late to this one. Didn't see that coming. |
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come on |
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i think all we need to do is score 15 points. |
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we can do that |
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Gawd I wish we had a coach |
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First Down! |
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Tate is muy great |
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Tate is the best player on the team. |
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like i said, double coverage: tate is muy great |
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Yikes -- the Red Zone! |
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Great play call with 20 to go |
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we don't belong in the red zone. we are so out of place there. |
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When Floyd went down and Tate stepped up, their relative values became apparent. Floyd runs great routes and is fast. Tate runs great routes, makes impossible catches, and picks up huge chunks after the catch. Both are great - but Tate is the key. |
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OK, if you can't get to the end zone, stop at the 21 and restart the offense at the 21, outside the red zone. |
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can we just go a yard? |
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Floyd looks like he hasnt missed a week |
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JimK, yes, Golden did step up while Floyd was gone, but there is NO comparison between receivers on pure ability! |
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HUUUUUGGGGHES!!! |
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HUUUUUUUUUUGHES!! |
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wow, 1st td with 4 min left in the 3rd |
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finally! Way to come alive in the second half of that drive |
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Pete and me -- clones? |
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Well, Indy, I just mean that we're better with both - but Floyd needs the Tate threat to shine. |
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NBC must hate this, its almost the 4th q and the game has only lasted 2 1/2 hrs!!!! |
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Tate4Tat - Yeah, they can't show me the idiotic UnderArmour commercial all 15 times they had slated for the broadcast... Damn. Nearly breaks my heart. |
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Glad we scored but still don't understand why Riddick is not in there - we'd be up 21-14 now. |
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We should be destroying these guys. Makes me NUTS! |
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Time for ND to be a 3rd and 4th qtr team! |
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JimK, agreed. As far as I'm concerned, both are EXCELLENT and should BOTH be in Heisman consideration next year! |
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If they're back Indy - with JC and a mature Tate and Floyd, we'd make some noise. If we get a D. |
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Iowa lost! Goody |
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Jesus fucking chjrist |
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Holy crap. These guys are running on us better than USC did. |
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its hard to know who has the ball on the triple option, but i just assume whoever is the furthest downfield has the ball. |
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In this game - yes! |
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me - hah! |
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Late hit...Sheesh, refs! |
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yes, there is our inept secondary! |
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you have to be fucking kidding me |
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Now we are in trouble. |
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And there's your ballgame. Don't let the door hit you in the ass, Charlie, and thanks for all the fish. |
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Man, didn't see that coming. |
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any coach that loses twice to navy must be fired, the good news is jimmy now cant go pro. |
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i knew it was going to happen at some point. i was at the navy-ohio state game. |
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They must go no huddle. |
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spiro agnew? great name LOL! |
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I cant believe how inept we look. Weis and Tenuta can get out of town |
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We win in OT. |
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WHne I said we should close the book on Weis I didn't mean slam it shut...with authority! |
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tenuta has to be the most overhyped coach with a bullshit record ever. this bum has not done crap at ND. blame charlie, instead of hiring the right guy, he just went and hired a name. |
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this is pathetic. |
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How many times as Hobbs been hit, Pat? Could you tell us again? What a tool. |
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They should fire that bastard |
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Oh but Charlie Weis is still a good coach guys! |
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belocki - I thought Tenuta woudl turn it around and I believed! |
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Yeah, he'll coach women's volleyball |
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Uh, I wonder how many starts all those Navy recruits have gotten from Rivals.com. |
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Day - And we should wait to talk until AFTER the game. |
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BCS anyone? |
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did he say "hand steak" in instead of "hand shake" |
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WeAreSC, |
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Navy never gets more than a 2 star athlete. Never. Ever. |
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Shush you Weis haters! It's not 2004 anymore, we can't hold our team to such unrealistic standards! |
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IMAC, |
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I'll say a miscommunication. |
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Right. What amazes me is that there still Weis apologists out there. |
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Day - My bad. I was being incredibly sarcastic. I want him to stay for his recruiting, but somebody else has got to start calling plays. |
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navy just kept running the ball until they realozed the irish had finally figured oit the ground game. then they launched the air attack |
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Ah. Got ya! thanks for clarifying. |
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Are we in an alternate universe today? |
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We need the following BD's back |
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about 15 minutes ago I asked if we had a tight end. |
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Glad we don't play Temple |
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just gotto the hotel in Juneau and turned on the the TV...Are you shitting me |
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"Miscommunication" my ass. You see that mudfoot white dude running down the middle of the field? Cover him! |
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Épée Fencer - it's telling that you didn't add the Navy-ND score to your bizarro world post. |
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Tacoma - Just be glad you didnt sit through the first 3 quarters. |
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ragone drops footballs. |
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Lucky. |
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oregon was going to let down against the cardinals. that was pretty predicable |
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we might lose this review |
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we do play stamford and they will probably kick our ass |
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Wow we are really good at playing at or below the level of our opponents |
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That's coaching |
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obediah, that's what got me to wondering |
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Pitt will kick our ass too |
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The crowd is really out of the game. |
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tacoma nd - I agree, yet people still think our problem is needing more talent to squander. |
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Crowd hasn't had much to cheer |
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Why is Charlie running out the clock? |
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match their effort hell! Match their damn coaching! |
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pete - ND has the most sheepish docile fans in FBS |
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...throw.... |
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Ditto dan. |
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this is so embarrassing |
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nice run by Hughes. 80% of the time I think he is completely worthless, but 10% of the time he surprises me. |
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Oh well, let's talk books. Anyone?? I just finished a very interesting WWII story, Every Man Dies Alone, by Hans Fallada. And on my flight from Singapore yesterday, I almost finished October Skies, about the discovery of a journal chronicling a lost wagon train in the Sierras in 1856 and some whacko Mormon breakaways. Good distracting read, but EMDA was one that really sticks with you. |
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great DB play |
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NOt so hard to play when you know what's coming Pat! |
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Did Clausen just run over a linebacker? |
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Say good night folks |
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oh shit |
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Why is hurt Clausen running the ball? |
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Not a fumble. |
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Wow. There goes the Game...and the season in ONE PLAY |
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Is a fumble. Is ballgame. |
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this is my nightmare. i hate being an nd fan. |
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Looks like a head/neck thing. |
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Glad Hughes was jonny on the spot! |
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Game. |
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this will be reviewed. not so clear a fumble. very clear; jimmy almost got his neck broken :( |
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Great, now the apologists have their 1011th excuse in the season of no excuses. |
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We suck soooooooooo bad |
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concussion |
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imac - if I where them I'd bolt - today! |
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onehip -- you need to read Hell to Pay by DM Giangreco |
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we are the worst team ever. ever. ever. ever. |
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good book epee! |
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best WW II book out there now |
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ND hasnt just lost a game, and a season and a coach, but they have simply had their ASSES kicked, humiliated, beat to a pulp like a bunch of pussies. guys pointing at each other, tate throwing his hands up after fumble. this team is imploding |
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I am not nor have I ever been, a Weis apologist. I just wonder when the rest of the commuinity realizes that he is in over his head. |
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We aren't bad. Just horrendously coached. |
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Brian Kelly - is that the guy in Cincinati? |
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danirish -- you've read it? |
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onehipdad, i saw you are in incheon. i lived in seoul for 15 months a few years back. love that neck of the woods. |
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the game is not fucking over |
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retards |
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Whats with the lit talk while the game is going on? |
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Yeah. Brian Kelly. Or Mishawaka High School's coach. |
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no reason for clausen to try to be a hero. just get out or getdown |
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Sharpley will lead us to victory, right? Yeah, sure. |
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Still holding out hope for the OT win. |
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WD -- we are good multitaskers. |
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Un fucking real |
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Kudos to Navy, they're playing a great game. |
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No, we can win this, even with Sharpley. Just not with Weis. Can we execute a 4th quarter coaching trade? I'll take this Navy guy, who has completely outdone CW. |
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atta boy. Navy |
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ahahahahaha, i thought he would go 99 yards for a touch. |
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fuck |
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wow... we are terrible. |
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Boo. Boo. I cannot believe this. |
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john - you're right. They get 15 more minutes to beat up on us. |
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Looks like Jimmy really want that TD, hence the run. Not smart to do, but he clearly wanted the TD. |
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WTF? |
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ugh |
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I can't believe what I just saw - |
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Did the D just quit on Charlie? |
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we are in free fall |
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Guess we haven't figured out the fullback yet. |
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MOTHER FUCKING TEMPLE BEAT THEM |
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Good for Navy |
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John Tenuta should take his @$$ back home too. |
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bitched slapped. |
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Positively gleeful, DBB. |
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Sure glad I didn't pay to see this. |
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Who is the last ND coach to lose TWO games to Navy? |
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This is one of the first times I've truly been embarrassed to be a ND fan. |
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God, ND stinks |
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my god... we are terrible. 39 yards... |
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Can anyone remind me of the last time Notre Dame went out and "totally outplayed" a good ( top 15) opponent? |
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Remember when Toryan Smith led the team with 10 tackles in the middle last year in his only start. |
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21-7 into quarter 4. |
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You can't tell Clausen to go down that close to the goal line. Too competitive. You can't, you are too pumped up. I know, much to my regret. Instinct takes over. |
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i wonder if that ol player is taking off his gloves now. |
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Jimmy is going to prove to the NFL how tough he is |
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Navy has 100 rushing yards PER QUARTER |
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Good-bye Charlie.......good luck to your next stop. |
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gwzimm's here, now I know it's over. |
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top 15 opponent? how about top 30! |
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Why shouldn't the commentators be happy? |
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I guess i am the only one rooting for ND here. If i were not watching the game i would have thought it was over. its not. |
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i hope we are recruiting that under armor kid.. |
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jim masterson - I think the real plan will be to just schedule more patsies, continue to appease NBC anyway necessary to keep the TV contract and ride the money train until there are no longer 80,000 fans lacking the dignity to walk away. |
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what is the hell is that thug 8 year saying in the damn under armor commercial |
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this game is so over it aint funny |
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he doesn't have the grades |
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They're like this every weekend, Homey. Positively gleeful when ND is down. |
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john we are all rooting for ND - we just see the writing on the wall |
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Well, Jimmy, this is the stuff legends are made of. Let's go do it! |
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This is painful to watch. Not as painful as watching my other school lose to Navy when Navy didn't even attempt a pass. Here's hoping to a comeback. |
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Well, I was happy for Navy 2 years ago. But today - they ARE a good team in a good program that maximizes the talent that they get. I assume everyone saw the first half blurb about how successful they've been. In Johnson and Nuiamotolo (close?) they have real coaches. |
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Homey - me too really I love the armed forces (Marine - Desert Storm 4th LAAD - ooo-rah!) |
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John - I'm still hoping for a comeback, but nothing will undo the previous three quarters. |
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Let's GO!!!! |
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Ryan, |
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JC is the Real Deal. |
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this game is far from over.. if you haven't been paying attention this season, we have a very potent offense that can score points quickly. |
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Get the Navy coach, shoot ND is so diversified they may as well get a Hawiian, maybe he can keep Manti around. |
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We do have a potent Offense. |
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Navy, hahahaha, how many kids did ND recruit who are playing for the Naval Academy? |
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How the hell did Tate catch that?! |
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Tate's got the best hands in the business. |
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The list of visitors grows exponentially to the shittier ND plays. |
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fml |
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game over |
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GAME OVER |
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Damn!!! Pain. Pain. Pain. |
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Well I do have to give Weis credit for the two field goal attempts - I would be feeling a lo... |
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ha. Its almost comical |
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Not over, but it's miracle time. |
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Ram Vela? Again? |
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FU jimmy |
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nice block in the face by Clausen. |
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No. It's over. Completely over. Utter embarrassment. |
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Second guy always gets the penalty |
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The boys played with heart. |
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Nothing funny here. I'm done. |
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dammit dammit dammit |
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why wasnt floyd looking for the ball |
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the 15 yarder on Clausen is complete and utter bullshit |
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I give Navy credit, but with better athletes and a shitty coach, we gave them the equalizer |
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Holy shit... this is just... wow... glad I have lots of booze in the house. |
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I didn't think they called those on the QB. Oh well. |
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i guess jimmy is pretty accurate with hitting floyd right on the number |
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Nice play Floyd..turn your ass around |
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Another Hawaii Bowl anyone? |
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lol, john. |
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Was Floyd tangled up or held? |
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Only Jimmy's 3rd int. One was a last second fling into the endzone at end of half, the other through Allen's hands now one off Floyd's back. He hasn't thrown a "real" pic yet |
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Glad I didn't waste the day posting. Just wouldve made my blood pressure even higher. |
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I was wondering the same epe |
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OK - our turn. Where tf are all the "Keep Charlie, he's a good coach" crowd now? He's had his ass handed to him by a 34 year old journeyman disciple of - Paul Johnson. |
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I don't believe our own commercial...are we really fighting |
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domer03inflorence - and that's why I'd take Willingham or Davies over Weis at this point. Plenty of "coping with the big loss" drunks, but also a few "celebrating the big win" drunks. Still no big wins under Weis. |
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brian kelly |
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that was a busted play or miscommunication |
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i am getting roaring drunk tonight |
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I've been on the Brian kelly train all year. |
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JimK - they usually show up about 4 hours after the game over. |
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Call in the dogs and piss on the fire, this one is over! |
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324 yards rushing. Jesus |
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Who's done less with more? Faust or Weis? |
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looked like Floyd was blocking? |
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our guys dont play hard, they dont finish every play. its so evident in this game |
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Dont pick on Charlie |
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I hope they bury Weis. Run up the score. |
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I;m getting on the Brian Kelley train - does it have a bar car? |
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Who coaches Temple? |
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weis is to blame, he prepares these punks |
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The DC at Florida deserves a shot. He's a bit below what ND people will accept unfortunately since he's "just" a DC. |
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fuck yes |
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I don't get it anymore. This is beyond bad but it is characteristic of CFB today. Only three programs can be called dominant and neither the PAC-!0 nor midwest schools will ever be considered as such, ever again. Sorry guys but you're seeing the end of ND ever being a dominant program. With all this talent and ability to get the coaching we need, we end up with this. |
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tick tock. |
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Right LOLO |
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charlie strong is not getting agig at ND, white wife. that wont work at ND |
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Agree LOLO. End of an era. |
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belocki that is bullshit |
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Somehow we still have an outside shot at this. If we hadn't had so many mistakes within scoring range, we'd be right there to take it. Come on comeback. |
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Charlie has no fucking answers. None. He sucks. Five fucking years. Gone. |
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that was a good punt |
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Weis has never distinguished himself. He is embarrassing |
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Why would any up-and-coming coach want the ND job? It's a career killer. |
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agreed. belocki, gtfo. |
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Charlie will now engineer two TD drives and then the stadium will go bonkers |
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I'm serious. I hope the administration is developing a short list. Let's don't have to "settle" like we did with this tub of goo. |
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He has the schematic advantage |
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ND is the best job in Amerika. Get a friggen coach, no more apprenticehsips. |
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quick poll? jager or whiskey or Mickeys tonight? |
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this season will fall below even the minimum we thought the irish could possibly be. an unmitigated disaster |
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LOLO - dominant? What are you smoking? We're pissed because this isn't a competitive program. Weis has had the talent and schedule to be a solid top 25 team the past two years. |
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I think Charlie Strong would make a great coach. If ND gets him, we're essentially guaranteed that the recruiting won't drop off. |
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Weis just needs to get the magic snot flowing. |
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Right, I dont give a shit what color his wife is |
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115 visitors, welcome to the funeral, Voice will play the dirge. |
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Even a victory here shouldn't save Weis. I've said - Navy is a goo fb program - but they don't belong 2 TD over us in our house. Weis has been humiliatingly outcoached by a youngster. Apologists, wake tf up! |
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Speaking of smoking. I need some, my wife can't understand why i get on here with all of you pathetic losers (mind you i include myself in the group). |
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jager |
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when Charlie dies I'm gonna go piss on his grave |
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jager it is and lets go colts |
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i dont care what color she is or who he marries, but he is not getting this job. he does not deserve it anyway. many better candidates |
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Flying Hail Marys is the schematic advantage. |
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everyone needs to calm the fuck down. the game, much less the season, is not over |
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cant blame Charlie for the players not making plays |
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Courtesy call for Mr. Brian Kelly. |
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JimK -- OK, I'll bite. |
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you should have said that the first time |
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We wouodl have a team if we had Navy's defense. NAVY'S DEFENSE! |
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Yeah, then Temple will be joining the NFL soon |
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Brian. The Game is OVER. |
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I'm saying we'll never be dominant because CW is about what we'll get. Great coaches demand the latitude to get the teams they want and run em the way they want to. The ND admins will NEVER let that happen. Forget it the CFB center of gravity has shifted down south to the warm weather states, with much less oversight and where populations are growing. The midwest is losing money and population, and we can get a few guys from the south whereas the bama's and floridas can fill their rosters with that talent pool.... |
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Doesn't deserve it? He's just as good as Texas' Muschamp, yet Muschamp is in line to succeed Brown. Strong deserves a HC shot. ND won't let it happen since theyre only going to look at proven HCs. I'm not sure who they could get though. |
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Cinncinati is in the fucking top 10. ND can't be dominant? WE NEED A REAL HEAD COACH!!!! |
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SEC baby. Down my way. Al up by 3 |
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At least this nightmare is over. |
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Good -- stopped at the 21, not in the red zone, so here comes an ND TD. |
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Sam Young is a Larry Bird clone. |
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5 minutes |
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Give me a break on these Academy teams, will ya. They the only football players in the country that give 100%? ND blows, the coaches coach, the players play according to the coaches instructions. Reallya simple fact. |
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Fencer, I've been saying that about Navy all day. It's that CW did not have the team ready to play, esp. on defense. I agree that the players come first. But there is a five year consistent pattern of failure here to get the athletes ready to do their best. That is not acceptable. The Nav coach has his guys ready to do what they need to do to win. |
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wow... I find it funny that in the first half there were about 4 of us here on the board... now every time I update the comments there are 50+ comments. |
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Can they fire Charlie now and let an assistant finish the season. I hate his face. |
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Yea, John, with the injuries piling up for the Colts......hopefully they won't let me down....one crappy loss is a enough in a weekend |
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hey, i was typing fast. i have no concern with his color, immaterial to me. |
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Epee - I hear you. We played Navy every year in rugby and they were relentless. Great guys. Always had a fantastic party with them after the game. |
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Domer, |
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You know Epee I think you hit it on the head. Navy is very well conditioned and it shows. they never stop coming at you. They remind me of the Oregon Ducks, who put a premium on conditioning. Neither team recruits well but you don't need to be a five star to work your ass off and get into the best condition of your life. |
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No one on board because it was assumed to me a W. I raked the yard, came in after the 1st q and was like, WTF. |
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Épée Fencer - I agree with your thoughts on blaming the players in general, but we've had a lot of the same complaints against players, and assistant coaches for 5 years. |
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Just checking in here - I see that Blue-Grey Sky's favorite weekly parlor game of Fire CW is in full effect. |
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No way. TD |
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@ jerry. your right. clearly the game is over |
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Don't be calling Alex a ho now. |
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Oregon is getting their dicks knocked in the dirt by the Tree. Hahahaha, a friggen tree. |
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She's my ho |
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The tree is going to run the hell all over us. |
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IF... big if... we pull this out, is it more of an indictment on CW, or is it good? |
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Lot of time in the Oregon game. |
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why want that floyd catch a td? |
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Navy's DBs are 10x better than ours. |
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Blown call there. |
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I know we've struggled, but we're getting warmed up. We will destroy Navy in the 5th quarter! |
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Indictment all the way. We're not ready. |
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Pitt will definitely win, bank on it |
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A friend of mine took his 5 year old son to the game. I'm calling child welfare in South Bend and reporting his sorry @$$ for child abuse. |
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That's a TD. Elbow on grd in end zone. |
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now how can you blame charlie for these two penalties |
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They just need more room to run the offense. |
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Here's to hoping we don't get killed in teh Gator bowl. |
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5th quarter, that's awesome. |
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She's no ho.....I get it for free....damn is this an old boys club or what.... |
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Alum Son, |
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We will win in OT. |
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YES!!!!! |
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too little too late? |
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Goooo!!!!! Bout time. Let's play some DEFENSE now. A little defense, please. |
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The games over, frig the review it takes an hour. |
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Great move and catch. |
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...I'm going to have to walk to the liquor store for the second time today. |
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Navy will run the ball down our throats. Game over. |
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Wish I had some weed. |
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so only Navy can stop Floyd, Tate & Clausen? |
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Confirmed? No Way! |
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This was a bad week to stop heroin.... |
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Daybreak, if yo ucan get to florence I've got a bottle of talisker with your name on it. |
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Onside kick - we can't stop their clock-burning runs. |
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False starts, personal fouls last couple of weeks. Poor tackling. |
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navy coach will throw the ball on this drive andcatch all napping |
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Where's Mike Ragone? Put in the kids who will rip your lungs out. |
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if charlie is so good, why cant he score inside the 10 |
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I have to drive around Annapolis all next week with an ND sticker on my car. |
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According to the admins, Ragone is at the grotto praying a novena, and then going to the malt shop while doing his calculus home work... |
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Onside kick or no? |
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And what is also tough to understand and quantify -- is that this is a bowl game for so many of the teams we play. They play all out, we have to play that way to -- every week. It is draining, after a week of classes and practice -- but that's the way it is. |
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CW is a nice Jersey guy, but, he can't coach worth a shit. |
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Missed field goals coming back to bite ND |
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charlie has the team down by one score |
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Epee while I completely agree with you, you'd think after the last 13 years our players would feel they had something to prove as well. |
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Soooo, Epee, when do all the Scholar/athletes finally get it? 5 years, 10 years, 15 years, if they're so friggen smart, what you state is obvious. |
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Navy is ready for the onside. Good kick. |
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Looks like our D is up to the task. |
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Weis Dad, yeah only down 1 td to Navy, great feat to hang your hat on. |
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REALLY need the 3 and out. |
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"haters" do you wear a reversed baseball cap - or are you really just 11 years old? |
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here's the ballgame |
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Thanks for that insight Hoya. |
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That hurt. Needed that 3rd down stop! |
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over |
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You're welcome, Jim. |
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hahaha. JimK, keep those whipper snappers off your lawn |
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what's up boyz don't keep me in the dark. No offense to Charlie Strong. My Man. |
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This is the last chance. Stop them on this set of downs or it's game. |
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Stanford just scored again, up 17 on Oregon |
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Jim, I don't think most "get it" until 2nd or 3rd year, and unfortunately, the guys are gone after 4. |
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Score another td or we lose. |
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One more stop. |
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OK GET this one or its done. |
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Epee, I understand, but, once you get hit in the nutz, ya better tighten your game up. |
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did he or did he not go out of bounds on the 1st down run? why did the clock continue? we lost 30 seconds! |
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PA pass here... |
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Right, PT Indy |
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Good job D. Let's get it Jimmy! |
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2 minutes to force OT. |
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2 minute offense |
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Bust the return right here. |
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Can't wai for the post game show on NBC ND Central. |
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Gold paint doesn't stick so well on the new safer helmets |
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Theres going to be a lot of ND fans who go grey in their 20s |
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I'd watch the fake - it'd be a gamble, but if they get 4 yds they win. |
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agree Jimk |
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I had to shave my head! |
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Navy's punter is amazing |
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I love the off-season, great time to dream. |
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Y'know, I agree we're still the Super Bowl for all these teams we play - but why do we never get punts like that? |
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if golden is such a stud, as he as told us, why did he not catch that punt? |
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How come other teams have good punters |
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Épée Fencer - "I don't think most "get it" until 2nd or 3rd year, and unfortunately, the guys are gone after 4." |
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What the hell was THAT?! |
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Shouldn't we be used to this by now? Last week was an anomaly. |
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It was charlies fault floyd dropped pass |
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Time boyz. Ball. location. |
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he lost track of the ground |
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Floyd |
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FUCK!!! |
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Four down territory. |
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That hurt. |
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Game. |
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how the HELL DID THAT HAPPEN! THEY ONLY RUSHED 4!! |
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obediah -- This may sound contradictory, but I agree with you that they shouldn't be doing such. |
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wow.... |
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Un....fucking...believeable |
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are you fucking kidding me!!!!!!!!! |
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Did the NBC announcers honestly say that Jimmy bringing the team down the field would be the stuff of legends? |
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keep the faith boys |
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the countdown to the end of the weis era begins today. Wow. |
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i just threw up on my self |
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Glad the offense matched the offense in focus down the end of the game |
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thanks O line good job |
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Did we see ND give up that drive? |
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My fiance is going to rub this one in. Damn. |
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and thus ends the weis regime.... |
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SAM YOUNG IS THE MOST PATHETIC SACK OF SHIT EVER TO PLAY ON ND's LINE |
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Congratulations to the Naval Academy. They came ready to play, and they played a great game. They deserved the win. Annapolis will be a happy place tonight. |
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dump her Jeff! just kidding |
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clausen choked on that drive |
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weis will stay the coach retards. time to drink. |
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We still haven't beat Navy at home since '05. |
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Embarrassing! |
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Weis enjoying his last complementary bottled water? |
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choke on the water charlie |
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Hats off to Navy. Well played (at least by Navy). |
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Recruiting tips for ND: |
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No fluke here. They just beat the living daylights out of us. |
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Buh Bye CW |
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GOOOOO NAVYYYYY |
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Thanks for killing morale in Iraq guys. Fire him Monday morning. I did not see the game, but listened on wvfi, I don;t care if it was the players fault, he needs to go, too many late season embarrasments. Bring in anyone, I don't care who, just get him out of there. |
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alright - TD and 3 point conversion and we're going to OT! |
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Buh Bye Clauson |
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Congratulations Navy. |
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Buh Bye Tate |
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Grats to Navy - they are cool but ND should win. This is sour. No excuses period. Fire Charlie or risk making ND a bigger laughing stock. |
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To be fair, ND has horrific turnovers. |
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The upside to watching the middies kick our ass: seeing that the folks in our Navy have a huge amount of heart and determination. Congrats to a fine group of lads. |
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daybreak ,come drink with me. |
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Who is next? Like it matters. |
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Next week, just give it to Riddick. No more Hughes. Let's at least learn something form this week. |
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Was it a really smart play Pat, or a really obvious one? |
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I'm gonna get blackout drunk in Pittsburgh |
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tate not trying to field that punt in the air was a big deal for me. |
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ND is simply not good!!!!! |
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The Naval Academy, ya gotta be shittin me. The home of John McCain and Jimmy Carter. |
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Jimmy needs to step up into the pocket instead of dancing around... You can't expect the linemen to hold their blocks that long... |
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pointless |
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wouldn't mind those field goals. |
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well we beat everyone except our mainstays. navy, michigan, usc. |
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Tate. |
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How sweet that would have been one safety ago. |
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I can no longer stomache Notre Dame playing down to its competition. EVERY FREAKING WEEK! It makes me absolutely sick. This game has Syracuse written all over it. Whats the excuse going to be this time? |
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Nope. ND will not beat Pitt or Stanford. |
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Glimmer of hope? |
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Missed field goals....damnit |
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this game not only threatens Weis' job, it might threaten ND's status as a Division 1 school... |
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NOPE. Embarrassing! |
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Wazu is putting up a good fight again. Hahahaha, just shitting ya boyz. |
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Navy Wins! |
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Damn. At least we showed some fight at the end. |
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Can't believe it came down the FGs. |
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3 losses was my limit. i can and will no longer defend weis. |
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Jeff, that's what Adolph said, as the Russkies bled Red over Berlin. |
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Against Navy??? So embarrassing. |
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CW is requesting a Dasani water(Coca Cola product of course) and a PB&J. So long little tuna, you are gone!!! |
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let the excuses begin! |
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We lost to Navy...at home..again |
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hahaha.c4c |
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I've never said this before. Not once. I've never believed it once, not once. |
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Well, we have one more week to see Alex. |
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top 10 recruiting classes each year and now this..... |
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no offense, but why do we do the bullcrap with standing for hte navy fight song? |
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I really haven't felt the announcer-hate until today. Intentional or not, they are so condescending. |
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Geez Ryan, ya takin a logic course at ND? |
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lets show some respect to the victors |
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Losing to Pitt and Stanford would be forgivable. Not losing to Navy. |
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No coach can fix ND. |
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Ok, it's going to get ugly tonight. Just keep it civil. |
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Ask the Navy coach what he's doing next year.....opening at ND |
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BCS chances-- ND never had any!!!!!!! |
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weis needs to resign tomorrow. he knows that he lost his job. he has to. |
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A win over ND really is not very special anymore even if it is Rock's house |
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7-5 here we come |
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belocki -- we are brothers in blood with Navy dating from WW II. |
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Maybe ND can drop down a division. C'mon Navy who lost to TEMPLE? |
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how we could lose the team after a win against wsu is beyond me. |
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ND should join the MAC conference !!!!! |
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Rock has turned his back on the stadium ever since the reonstruct. Blocking ou the Baby J, how dare they, the noive of them!! |
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Just like in victory in loss let's show some class (that includes you too Mr. Masterson) |
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Pat we will keep it civil but tell me dont you think this was a real embarrassment to ND. |
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7-5 is wishful thinking. |
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2 losses to Navy in 5 years. He's got to go. |
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I hate losing, but there's just a bit less of a sting when it is to a Navy team that so clearly prepared, believed, and executed so well. As our favorite bad announcers point out - no star recruits, no agents, no coming out early. Navy is a stick in the eye of the elite programs and elite wannabes like us. They play for the game - and often win.Like we used to. |
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and, for better or for worse, the sun finally sets on the charlie weiss era at ND.... |
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two home losses to NAVY? |
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you are right jim |
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Time to fire charlie. We beat Navy every year since we hired Ara. Even TY beat them every year. Charlie lost in 5 years to Navy. Time to let go. I had supported Charlie even last year, but now its time to look at others. Start the discussion, and pass the alumni donations to buy out the contract! |
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Lost a double (winning team, Navy) Rasputin game. |
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no disrespect to Navy---they were clearly prepared and played a perfect game. HOWEVER it has a WHOLE LOT MORE sting because we lost to they were prepared and we were NOT! weis cannot survive. |
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obediah -- on the bowl game -- gotta be fair to the kids -- see how they play out the rest of the season, then decide. |
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Temple is 7-2. For whatever it's worth. |
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CW is gone and I think the team knows it. |
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Weis' Dad, lighten up, son. The Big Bell in the sky has tolled for CW. He'll be back in Spring Lake with Criqui this year. |
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It is funny to me that all the CW suck up fans love to talk smack when ND beats WS, Nevada, hangs with SC, and so on. |
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How does one man get paid so much to do so little? |
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Dear Charlie, |
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Urban Meyer couldn't win at ND unless he brought some criminals over from Florida. |
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I appreciate all Charlie Weis has done for Notre Dame, and I wish him nothing but the best |
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I feel like I've been raped in the face. |
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DBD, he's only making 500k, no shit. ND is getting what they paid for. |
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anyone know what channel the LSU vs Alabama game is on for DirecTV? |
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As a college football fan who watches as much Big 10/Pac10 as i can - I'd have to say that were I not personally invested in this game - it would have been a great watch just to see how well navy ran on us and how hard JC and GT tried to get us back. Entertaining. But depressing. |
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Warm up the bus for Weis. I retract my statement from earlier in the season in support of CW. He cannot coach the Irish any longer. |
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How many 4 and 5 star recruits does Navy have? Why do we care if Charlie recruits well when our 5 star players can't beat 1 star players? |
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Good luck CW. He'll get picked up in the NFL as a OC or South Carolina. |
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Navy didn't seem too excited. I guess they realize a win over a Weis-coached ND team's no better than a win over a mid-level Big East team. Why make a big deal about it... |
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Charlie out recruits 90% of Div 1 coaches |
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Time to focus on Basketball now. |
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Smile. You didn't just lose to Purdue. Navy is a good team. |
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More than the 5 years he's had? |
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LSU vs ALA? DirecTV? Anyone know? |
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Michigan Dave, at least your coach is still building a program. |
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Our program is a complete embarrassment now. Bad luck, bad bounces, inheriting poor depth: none of these excuses matter anymore. We lost to a military academy two out of three years. Brian Kelly. On the phone. Now. |
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175 visitors. Bow your heads ya heathens as we pray for CW' future, and enlightenment to Big Jack S. and Father JJ Jenkins. |
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Who will coach ND now? |
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The job done by the defensive coaching staff in this game was atrocious and totally inexcusable. The linebackers and CBs were nowhere to be found most of the game. And when it counted the most, the OL did not deliver. |
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Those almost wins against now 5-5 Michigan and an obviously down USC don't look so good now.. |
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Michigan Dave - Purdue hammered your hated rivals - they're not bad. |
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Weis' dad. You been drinking some?? |
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Let's get Jim Zorn. |
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How about Ron Zook!? |
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Anyone who puts "fire Charlie" in their post has to put who we legitimely can hire. Remember charlie was not our first choice when we got him. If you think Kelly is coming w/o Clausen/Tate/Martin/Teo on mission you are outside your mind. |
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Pull your head out of Charlie's butt, pops. This team needs a new coach. The problems have been there all season and always will be there as long as your son is coach. |
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We just got manhandled by Navy. |
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How about ya stop busting our balls. |
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I think Bob Davie's house is to blame. |
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Ron zook? we have his twin brother. |
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I guess I am searching for upside in this situation: I trust Swarbick(sp?) more than I ever did White. Hopefully this hiring ordeal is not the CLUSTER FUCK that the last few were. |
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LOL stephen. |
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ah...a new beginning. hope springs eternal. |
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I agree with Pat's comments on Charlie, he is a ND man, I think we should be constructive on who is the next choice to lead us to the promised land. I suggest we take a list, and add to it from other ideas, and get some votes on who we should go after. The list in my mind is |
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The amount of visitors should show how upset everyone is. Charlie is a great recruiter, but he just doesnt know how to motivate his guys. We were beyond flat today. I kept wondering why we didnt get Golden into the game sooner. This is just unbelieveable. |
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and just as a follow up; we have the ultimate test case of a new coach not solving everything. remember when our defense was atrocious and we thought get tenuta would be the fix. yeah we're still bad. players have to make plays. and the d and oline flat didn't make enough of them today. we came out flat and just got beat. we had the ball 3 times on the goal line and got 0 points on messed up plays. |
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BGS authors. |
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JimK - "They play for the game - and often win.Like we used to." |
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I just wish it was still 1952. |
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204, ya late for the funeral. Sign the condolence book and get the fook out, ya Irish bums ya. Brhahahaha |
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We can solve this problem by giving Charlie a contract extension. |
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aaronb, did you bring your kneepads this week? |
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Can't wait for the weekly BGS excuse fest for Weis. It'll be a doozy |
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ConvertedIrish...how about a great junior college coach that can motivate his kids? Why do we need a household name? Can you pronounce Navy's HC names? Did you know who he was 3 years ago? Probably not. What he did just do motivate a group of hungry, undersized men to kick the teeth in of 3, 4, 5 star ND players. |
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brian kelly, urban meyer, does anyone believe we'll actually get these guys. peterson, no way. i wish the colts could make a trade for ray lewis, adrian peterson, larry fitzgerald and champ bailey but it's not going to happen. |
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ah, now i can finally get some rest... |
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Navy? A service academy. Losing to USC I can understand, but with our 5 star recruits, and great coaching how does ND lose to Navy? |
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HAHAHA YOU WERE RANKED. |
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Totally agree with those who say this team was not motivated-for most of the game it was not. Inexcusable. |
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Chef's, i'm conceding that charlie's gone. all i'm asking is to stop dwelling on proving that and start being realistic. |
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kelly will come here, he has no practive facility or weight facility. he is not supid |
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Time to get dinner. Keep it classy folks. Remember, this is still a game. One we all feel VERY intense about, BUT with family and friends in service, I know I have greater things to worry about. |
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Thats what I loved about Lou Holtz he would talk down his team every week and tell everyone that the opponent was really good. It called game planning and being humble.....charlie never has learned this. I hope he will learn it at his next OC job in the NFL |
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It has gotten this bad. |
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Bring on Kelly from Cincinnati. He's shown he can coach any level of player and win. |
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has chuck already had his post game |
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Belocki, thank you mullen is the first name that is reasonable. although kelly's facilities are rough he's got a nice road to the bcs every year with little to no pressure. not a bad gig. plus he just signed a long term deal. |
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aaronb - You continually push me into the boundaries of keeping this place civil. |
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Still waiting for Weis' excuses on ESPNews. |
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Thank you, obediah. |
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"Bring in Kelly or Patterson. Neither of them can be worse." |
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Even TD Jesus has thrown his arm up in disgust! |
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Epee Fencer, Are you saying we took a loss to help the service academies feel better? LOL |
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How ironic Iowa gets beat by Northwestern and we are the lead line on the ticker. People just love to see ND lose. That is what I hate the most....the medias pleasure with our losses. Oh yes and the rest of the country |
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Converted... |
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charlie might have been the 4th choice a they went about the search all wrong. you should never get the ND job without being a proven HC. |
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Toryan Smith led the team in tackles against Navy last year. |
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How is Petterson or Kelly any different than Urban was 5 years ago. At a non BCS big name school, not a huge pay day. And guess what he turned us down. And he had ND ties. |
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Charlie is not doing well in the presser. |
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I blame Kevin White for most of this. |
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if you get a Cincy to that level, you need to leave. he has no guarantee that he will continue to be that good. |
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No one is drilling Weis. Come on reporters. DO YOUR JOB |
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Butch Davis, anyone? |
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Ron Powlus seconded. |
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I have to admit I would love Jimmy to stay but why would you. We have seen what happens when you stick around for your senior year. |
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Steve Spurrier. |
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they didn't have too many options the last few times around. at least the next guy is going to come to a program in better shape. big concerns if jc leaves, crist isn't ready, and recruiting goes down the crapper, though. they need to move forward as fast as possible. |
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butch davis sucks the bigone. NC is so underwhelming this year, horrible game day coach, we already have that |
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someone asked! |
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jimmy won't leave. None of them will. They have too much to prove. |
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Someone like Turner Gil or Mike Riley seem more realistic. |
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Oh, BTW - we are about one play last year from losing 3 in a row to Navy. |
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I just signed on to see if anyone had used the words "cupboard," "Heisman," "BCS-eligible," or the phrases "Floyd's injury" or "just X points away from being undefeated." So far, so good -- it looks like the denial phase is finally over. |
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"Let's not slight Navy" No kidding it would have been a lot worse if we had lost to a service academy. |
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Why can't it stay civil Obe? Is it Civil to lurk around hoping for a ND loss so we can delve back into this same crap? Bob Stoops has 3 losses this year. Jim Tressel has 2. The fact that we've not been good consistently since 1993 should give some people perspective. |
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Charlie's presser live over at nbcsports.com |
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at least Tressel beat Navy. |
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Any of probably 90% of football coaches in Div 1 would be a step up. I think our chances of landing one of them are realistically pretty good. |
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But Aaron - Stoops and Tressel have in their first five fears fielded NC teams and are always respectable. If I were you and looking for a model of "give him more time" - it would be Mack Brown. |
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belocki, |
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Stoops and Tressel sometimes have good years. Imagine that. |
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aaronb, |
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"Any of probably 90% of football coaches in Div 1 would be a step up. I think our chances of landing one of them are realistically pretty good." |
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jon gruden is available right now. |
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I dont see charlie stepping down, he will have to be forced out. Which is sad. I know we are all very hot about this loss, but lets be real Navy, no matter how good should never beat us twice in three years. We had to lose to Navy sometime, but not twice in 3 years. Who can possibly defend that. |
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Ty's track record wasn't very impressive at all. |
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If you're watching the presser, you can see it on Charlie's face that he knows he's done |
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The best and most likely to sign are: |
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Reporter: "Coach Weis have you ever had another game were you lost and never punted?" |
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Imagine this: Weis is gone, Clausen and Tate leave for the NFL, Teo takes his mission and then gets a fresh start somewhere else. |
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Thank you, Jeff |
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DayBreakBoys, We may not have a signature win but we do have more than a few signature losses. |
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Well at least Michigan lost their 300th game all time today. |
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Good point Tom. |
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Reality nut punch. Ouch! |
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the killer---this was not some surprise that came out of no where. Navy almost beat OSU. Weis knew his job was on the line for the last several months, but he choked it all down. |
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stephen, big deal, if chuck stays for his full contract he might have that many by himself. |
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Not just because of today, but if we are looking for someone who builds a team and motivates his players, what about Pat Fitzgerald? |
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I'm sure a coaching change would lead to some transfers of good players. But that's inevitable any time a coach is fired. Weis clearly is not going to succeed at ND, so dealing with the transfers has to be done sooner or later. |
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I'll be coach next year. I'll get 3 wins, take only $1,500,000 and I'll resign with dignity after losing to Navy! |
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Can someone tell me what reporters are allowed to ask questions at the presser? It seems to me that only chuck's family members can ask questions. |
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I blame all of this on Ty |
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http://espn.go.com/blog/NCFNatio...re-dames-
season |
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Lets really piss off Pittsburgh and hire Bill Cowher. |
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Sorry to see this collapse like this. This was nothing but heart on the part of Navy. Better conditioned, better prepared and better motivated. Navy has made itself competitive against midwest and east coast competition. We cant do it. CW must go because of all the money that is spent on the football team, and they can't beat Navy. I would have to look at the numbers but if Navy loses to Temple, then it means that Temple could compete against ND. Temple pays a fraction of what ND pays to get its players on the field. That is the reason that CW must go, because it makes no sense to spend this kind of money and get these results. It's a money thing and CW doesn't manage the money correctly. When that happens the boss has to go. |
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I blame everybody except Weis. |
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"How ironic Iowa gets beat by Northwestern and we are the lead line on the ticker. People just love to see ND lose. That is what I hate the most....the medias pleasure with our losses. Oh yes and the rest of the country" |
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FWIW, did ND really play THAT bad? The defense did it's typical not-so-good job, and the offense moved the ball all day long. The problem was mistakes within scoring range. Mistakes happen. Floyd made one and that's likely because he's been out for a while. Jimmy made a mental error for not getting down after the decent pickup. Our usually good kicker missed 2 FGs, which probably made Weis second guess him and go for it on the 4th and goal. All of those things culminated today. |
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wow... just had a break of half an hour to gather my thoughts.... |
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Jeff, what about adding Brent Venables to that list? |
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Jeff, It was NAVY, our second string should beat NAVY even if forced to play in street shoes. Yes I blame Chuck for another game were "the team didn't play that bad" |
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Sad thing is we cant even look forward to Basketball, Brey has got to be right on par with Weis. |
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If you took the names off Navy's jersies, would y'all be so upset? At this point the Michigan loss is more galling. Navy since Paul Johnson are a different team than you remember. They are not a patsy anyomore. |
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Hopefully Swarbrick has been doing his homework and has had an active and productive search going for some time... This loss has sealed Charlie's fate. If CW's loss would have been to Pitt JS and the school's administration could "justify" retaining him if they were not satisfied with who they had for his replacement. Now they have no choice. They are on a short clock to produce his sucessor if they want to stabilize recruiting and the overall program including those who might opt for the NFL draft. |
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domer03inflorence : "if we go 9-3".... |
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epe, missed you signing out. take care. go blue jays ;) |
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If the administration let Bob Davie (0 losses to Navy) and Ty Willingham (0 losses to Navy) go, they cannot justify keeping Charlie Weis (2 losses to Navy). Navy is a proud tough team with a coach who does not panic. Charlie Weis cannot be allowed to further retard the program by turning it into a AAA minor league club for NFL teams. Brian Kelly reportedly would crawl on his knees to ND. Time to turn the page on the Weis years. |
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Brian Kelly would go to ND in a heartbeat. However, he would not be able to get the type of student-athletes he gets into Cincinnati into ND. |
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all of you weis apologists, please save it for the cap and trade debate. he's a mediocre coach who happens to be able to recruit well (with the extreme assistance of brown and other assistants). |
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The best and most likely to sign are: |
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I know this is a family site but I have to get this off my chest: |
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Fairness is right, this loss is on Ty. I mean if Ty would have lost to Navy we wouldn't feel so bad about Chuck doing it twice. |
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"Brian Kelly would go to ND in a heartbeat. However, he would not be able to get the type of student-athletes he gets into Cincinnati into ND." |
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I want to make sure that I make it clear - I don't blame the players. They fight, they care, they give it their all. I love the players. I just want a capable field general. |
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We have to stop defending Charlie, he is a good coach he just doesnt have the IT factor. That thing that makes a good coach a great coach. I know we have high standards but why shouldnt we. Im not living in the 1940s, I would be happy to be in the 1980s again. Im torn on this fire Charlie thing. The point is real, any coach would have to think long and hard. ND does have some of the toughest fans to please. Charlie has brought back the recruits but not the confidence we need so badly. This will all have to be decided at the end of the year. But if they are thinking of even looking they better get the ducks in a row now. Dont just expect someone to take the job. It will cost up dearly Im sure for charlie to go and to hire a new coach. |
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Isn't Whittingham Mormon? |
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Amen, DayBreak... |
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stuart... chill out... as Pat called for civility I'll leave out the curses. |
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Maybe Ty Willingham is available? At least he didn't lose to Navy...or Syracuse...right? |
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"IF means it is conditional. It is a possibility. We haven't lost to Pitt...this year." |
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fixed? pleased explain your use of logic stuart. |
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I'm sorry for not being clear. I wanted Willingham fired too (as well as Davie). My name is supposed to be sarcasm. I'm just trying to come up with reasons people can bring to Swarbrick & Fr. Jenkins to send Charlie out the door (because I fear that even after today, he will somehow be allowed to return). |
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I have been beaten into apathy by ND. I had 3 years under davie and one year under Ty. I can't get excited or upset about ND FB anymore. |
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Fairness, I got it, I was just glad that there is still a slight way that Chuck can still blame it on Ty. |
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Weis was done with me after the 17-0 BC game last year. He does not have his teams prepared week in and week out. He is the 21-century Gerry Faust. |
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I gave up on Weis after 'Cuse. |
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Not that Tom - understood |
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oh god.. and now I have to listen to Davie on the FLorida game? .... no |
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I am ill. I so wanted Weis to succeed because he's an ND guy - he gets it. None of that cheatypants mcsweatervest crap they consistently sweep under the rug around here. |
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Hey! i beat Navy every year...now that AF team was a little pesky. |
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i live in tampa and gruden scares the hell out of me at ND. he was not a good coach after the superbowl and the players hated him. hated him. many said he had a credibility and honesty issue. you can be a tough coach, real tough, but you cant look kids in the eye and lie. |
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That's my biggest fear. That we finish 9-3 and weis is able to stay. and next year's schedule is insanely easy. |
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I dont want Gruden at all |
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Nice win for Navy!! Navy Strong!! |
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I guess Oregon and Iowa know what we feel like today. Oregon was in the game but much like us cant close the deal after a blowout the week before. By the way has anyone noticed how quickly Jim Harbaugh has turned around stanford. If I remember right he beat SC the first time he played them. I wounder what that would be like. |
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this is really shaping up to be the worst possible combo. |
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harbaugh wants NFL like his brother. |
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Swarbrick will have to can Weis to keep his credibiliity, no matter what happens here on out. Weis already got a pass at the end of last season. |
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No former NFL coaches need apply... |
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wow... I can't stand Tebow. |
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Not Gruden he is in the Willingham mold. Mediocre coach who had one good year. As we know now, just loving ND is not enough to get you wins. |
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I'll be happy to take 2 of the next 3. |
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the problem is that we need someone who loves ND, otherwise they won't take the job. |
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ND wouldn't buy Harbaugh an $80k toliet, although that would be an appropriate place to flush Weis's contract. |
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Swarbrick canned Weis tonight. Doesnt matter if we win out the season. |
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day... your statistics made me laugh out loud. :-) |
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Im Just saying loving ND doesnt get you wins. I never have doubted that Charlie loves Notre Dame, He just cant get over the hump. He is a great guy Im sure I would love to see him stay as an OC for us but you cant do that after being the Head Coach. |
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I would like to add Mike Shanahan to the list of possible successors. Head coach, two super bowl wins, great running game year after year, looks like a leprechaun. Come on down. |
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It's not 100% Swarbrick's call. He is always careful to say that the decision will be made in consultation with Fr. Jenkins and the trustees -- i.e., the people who hired Weis and extended his contract. They are not men known for admitting to mistakes. |
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fitzgerald from NW'ern. if he is good, you have him for 20 yrs. |
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If ND was just some tiny school who was trying to build a football program where there was no history of success, I would keep Weis with a 9-3 finish. But there is too much money invested - Weis' contract; the NBC deal; the copious amounts of $$$$ we all shell out on tickets to games, clothing, other merchandise. Weis is an ND grad, he cares about the program, he can recruit - but he's not a college head coach. In the NFL, he might be great. Not at ND. Passion and proven college success is needed at the head coaching position. |
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Sheesh, it seems like whenever I root for a big upset early in the day, ND ends up losing later on... |
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if Swarbrick can't convince whomever he needs to fire Weis, then he ought to go find another job too. |
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Shanahananagins would be interesting. Not sure about the NFL coaching though |
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butch jones central michigan |
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I find the shanahan suggestion very interesting. Hadn't thought of it. |
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I'd take Boise, TCU, or Cinnci's coach. You could probably take them at a bargain. |
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no coaches that die their hair. that would eliminate shanahan |
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dye their hair |
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Lets not try and get a bargain for a head coach remember how that turned out with Meyer. Pay them what they are worth. |
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I say we give any good coach whatever they want and stop thinking all ND players are Christ's soldiers |
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Go, Irish! Hire a competent coaching staff! |
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3-2 vs Navy |
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this fighting irish has been brought to it's knees. when will the humiliation stop? we should join the mac |
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we would lose 2-3 games a year in the MAC in our current state |
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NO NFL coaches.... come on are you kidding me... time to get a real college football coach... |
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Charlie steps down in the weekly press conference due to some "health issues" after a backroom deal is brokered...then I woke up from my post game nap and reality sets in. |
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"I say we give any good coach whatever they want and stop thinking all ND players are Christ's soldiers." |
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^^ thank you! ^^ |
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Hilarious, DBB, but I'm afraid you and I are outnumbered on this subject. I sometimes wonder if the people getting misty-eyed over players getting 4.0's and abstaining from alcohol for 4 years are too holy for their own good. I am not advocating letting poor-character people into ND. That said, I think expecting young, testosterone-heavy men to act like choir boys while playing for a dominant football team is a little idealistic. |
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Jeff @ 11.07.09 - 7:13 pm: |
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Outplayed, outcoached, outhustled, outmotivated. Weis out the door? |
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How big are those missed field goals. Though I honestly can't bang on the guy who hadn't missed one since Michigan....but there goes the 10-2 season, and with it the BCS bowl game...and in my mind, it is doubtful that we beat Stanford and/or Pitt...which means that there probably goes Charlie as well....which could possibly mean there goes JC and Golden as well? I hope not. |
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are you kidding me.. we are not BCS bound because we are not in the big ten... |
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We need a real tried and true, experienced collegenfootball coach... who also has some integrity and class... |
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Beamer won't leave Va Tech until they carry him out feet first. |
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I say we keep CW, and accept the fact that ND will be at best on a great season 9-3. That's the high-water mark. I like Charlie, what the hell, let's keep him and just accept the inevitably of 7-5, 8-4, 9-3. |
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If you lame notre dame people want a coach - I'm a HUGE navy fan, so this is about the best day of the year. |
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In all honesty i hope Weis wins the last 3 games and is retained...forever. A lifetime of ND mediocrity is the gift that keeps on giving. |
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Stuart: |
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Navy played tough, didn't they. Triple option football. Middle linebacker hits the first option on EVERY play. Period. Do your job. Outside linebacker hits the second option on every play, safety or corner covers the third pitch option on every play. If these players do their job, stay at home so to speak, the option is stopped. The option lives on over aggressive people out of position. Years ago, when Darryl Royal at Texas was tearing up everyone with this O, Ara and John Ray came up with a "mirror" defense that actually stopped it. |
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