Woohoo!

Go Irish!!


Paul Maguire reports that Demetrius Jones enrolled at Northern Illinois ... unfreaking real. I had such high hopes for DJ coming into this season, and that is just a classless way to leave, especially compared to Zach's transfer to UConn.


Let's go Irish!


And now I see this was covered in the comments yesterday - but still, that's just awful.


I have a hunch that both we and the Skunk Bear fans will be searching for silver linings on every play...


Are you kidding me?!?!?!

Wow.

Um - no silver lining on this play.


Oh, and go Irish!!!


UM defense looks fired up...wish we did


Oh boy. This is gonna be ugly as all get out.


well we opened it up but in the wrong direction


that's a better start than last year, right? :)


we need to stop run (Hart)


^ Obediah - fair point. I guess.


I'm glad we've stopped our habit of having our offensive drives fizzle early and giving our opponents great field position.

Oh wait. I guess we didn't.


Brian Griese needs to find another job


a start like this and i have no booze in the house. great...


love it: like a fire hydrant at a dog show


I have too much booze. This fact may also be bad.


I stocked up on alcohol - fool me two Saturdays in a row, shame on you. Fool me three, shame on me.


Wow. Mallet stared down his reciever each time he threw.


or honey farming in Grizzly country


no rush, but the deflection is nice to see


Nice job by the freshman neal there


Dang.

Let's see what Jimmy can do this time...


we need a second-coming jc


every time I see your name Eirewax I think Shrek lol (no offense, just around kids that remember that part of the movie)


The good thing about ABC---no "This is ouuuuur Country" commercials.


worst offense vs worst defense...this might be inteersting


Don't hold your breath DomerGuy - those infernal ads may be coming along later...


Shrek gave me the idea T2


ok, good ;-)


Best offensive play of the year right there on the kickoff.


Ha! No kidding, DomerGuy - best field position we've had in quite a while.


#%$^#&@*@(_(@@


Dammit.

God, this is ugly.


ok, that was worse than last year.


Wasn't JC sitting on his butt with the ball? We should still have possession.


cue up Yakety Sax.


same pattern...respectable defense... crappy offense


Charlie looked lost there... kinda like Davingham


That is one sloooooow QB.


makes me wish for a 3 and out.


Come on, Wooden. Sheesh. Everyone in the country knew that throw was coming.


Ambrose Wooden. Michigan's 12th Man.


wooden made NO effort to get his head around.


catch up offense in the 1q...great


I'm running out of epithets.


App State
App State
App State


ty's team is kicking ass.


We've got 'em right where we want 'em.


So...

8 minutes in.

Mental errors? Check.

Turnovers? Check.

Penalties? Check.

Opponent lead? Check.

Not looking good here.


right where we want em? within 10 points right


Oh...my...crap...


no more glass, i'm drinking straight from the bottle now


Fuck!


OK...everyone at 4 PM send out positive mental signals... I'll try anything right now


Go Golden! Nicely done.


Is Evan Sharpley warming up yet?


Game. Set. Match


So? When are these coaches going to take some sort of responsibility for the constant mistakes and constant turnovers. Heck, even when they were good the last two years, the penalties piled up

AGain, our offense has put the defense under the coash again and again and again

and now Michigan has the confidence going forward and our offense better do something. Anything


Griese.

Stating the obvious. Again.


OK, so Game. Set. Match might be overdoing it a bit. But I'm steamed by the execution right now


Bob Griese is a douchebag.


ok, we have hit rock botoom. let's crawl back...


We suck.

Keep Corwin, can ALL the rest.

FYI: an outstanding team, good coach, and rookie QB is playing Ohio State (on ESPN). Better option (if you can pick it up: America's Team versus the Boston Red Sox ..starting now!).

Go Irish


is that a migraine Charlie is trying to get rid of?


How do I feel about our offense's execution?

I'm all for it.


did we just gain 4 yards on the run?


Hey,at least with Clausen coughing up that fumble, we have a chance at positive rushing yards today. I'm not sure we could have come back from -20.


Carlson!

First down!

Two things we haven't seen in a while.


WOWWWWWW!!!

A first down!

Go Irish


Yeah.

First Down.

*waves flag half heartedly*


WTF?

How are failing at such basic football skills as THE SNAP?!?!


this is actually worse than a high school game.


and we give it all back on one snap

do we ever work on the shotgun?

WTF?

GOD @^#*&^@(*@&#@^(*#&^@#%^@*#@#@#@(#&@^#(@^#&@^#*& @#^@&*(#^&@^#*&@#(@*#&@^*&#@^(*&#^*@&#^*(@#@#(*#@

HOLD ON TO THE @#&^(*@#&@^#^&*@^#*&@^
BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wow!!

Only lost 13 yards on the bad snap ...and we recovereed!!

And...we recover our fumbles!!

GREAT OFFENSIVE COACHING!

Go Irish


jesus...stress levels are off the chart. Like watching someone walk throuhg a minefield


I just don't believe what I'm watching.


good to be there to boost michigan's morale


jeez, we are playing much worse than week 1 or week 2.

Duke must be getting so excited!


I do


I can't believe this.

I understand the difficulty of executing offensive plays, but snapping the ball and holding onto it are two basic skills that every football player (especially highly-recruited ones) should have down pat.

(No offense, BGS Pat.)


HORRIBLE attempt at a block by Carlson.


I'm not even watching anymore, I swear to GOD!


I really think we could be winless this year


We are at about -50 yards rushing so far. I have never seen anything as bad as this Notre Dame offense.


when our best plays are on our punts we are in serious trouble


i dont think i can watch this after the first quarter.


mark may must be loving this


Damn Ty Willingham...


im starting to hate clausen

damnit


DA, I'm with you - I'm THIS close to turning this turd sandwich off, if only because my fiancee is getting pissed at me yelling and cursing, and I'm afraid I might actually blow a gasket.


we need to stop here and turn this around...NOW!


It's not ALL Willingham


Can you imagine how badly we'd be losing if our defense were as inept as our offense?


Honestly, you cant blame willngham for bad snaps, fumbles, etc


this might be a 1963 year


our offense wants to play pattycake again.


*sheesh*

and Manningham was wide open too.


If the michigan wide receiver is wide open and out of bounds, has our secondary failed?


We are In-ept.
We are In-ept.


1963 was my sr. year. It was horrible


Auburn lost? Wow - lots of good teams losing early (and often) this year.


our defense is not doing THAT well...


i agree w/ gzwimm...cw is the one to turn around a line in 3 years (or not)


If I'm Michigan I run the football all game long.

edit : can we not block in the back please?


i hope its holding.


Go Tommy!

Nicely done.

Probably gonna be called back, though...


It's not a bit of Willingham .. he's been gone nearly a half decade. And his frosh/soph team is winning their games.

We really suck bad. We are a disgrace. This is not Notre Dame football.

Keep Corwin. Clean house, KW.

Go Irish


Oh captain my captain.


penalty.... of course.


oooh, travis... there's a surprise.


TT. Michigan's 12th Man.


anyone notice Travis didnt walk out for the coin toss?


Clausen's gonna be in the hospital; by week 6


another sack, another high snap. Jesus! WTF?


the #2 qb in the country is looking a lot better than the #1 qb right now


voice, i'm thinking our players are the 12th, 13th, and 14th players for michigan.


actually our running game looks a little better---------------------------------- (AGAINST THE WORST DEFENSE IN THE COUNTRY!)


#2 Frosh QB has a running game.


Um - Appa-LAY-CHEE-an State?

Come on Bonnie. Not helping your credibility there.


I agree, me.


turnover #2


Wow.

30-0 at half?


Wowza!


this lack of focus is all in cws lap


I give up.....see you guys later


Damnit, I was halfway through a nice post about Allen and he does that.

And to the announcer - this was adding injury to insult not vice-versa.


On a serious note : if JC decides to bail after this week (less than 3 full games) is he still a frosh?

To the game: UM, run it in .. put us out of our pathetic misery.

Go Irish


ok, i'm done. i'm finishing this bottle and leaving. otherwise, i'll be visiting the emergency room today.


Oh no. This can't possibly get worse, can it?


Gotta say, Weis has to take the heat for this. Maybe they'd be 0-3 due to Ty's lack of recruiting and upperclassmen, but looking *this* horrific is all on Weis.


This team is a fucking joke.


DJ has to sit both 2007 and 2008. He has two years eligibility left


Obediah - my wife said the same thing.

And I hate these commentators. Never liked 'em when they called NFL games, and still don't like 'em on college games, either.


I've seen this before. What a load of crap this is. Weis really has opened things up.

Disgusted!


walker, frazer,and dd look like geniuses.


Did someone take the University of Notre Dame football team and replace it my local high school team?


I'm surprised that Northern Illinois University would even accept a football player transferring from a program as weak as Notre Dame's.


DJ has to sit for all this year and the first three games of next year. Isn't it one calender year from date of transfer?


hilarious, voice!


i'm so incredibly disappointed in travis thomas and john sullivan. They are playing like freshmen. we take one step forward and 18 steps back, I want to puke.


only took half a quarter for nd to lose big tv privleges. their about to lose sound now too.


our young kids are pissing their pants and our small band of veterans are piss poor. this is not a team. this is a bunch of guys trying to do things by themselves.


Voice is the only one keeping me chuckling today - keep it up!


No, NCAA said that if the school was more than 12 days old, he loses another year. According to today's Chicago Trib


Hey, another penalty!!!!!!!!!!!!


Matt, did your HS team look this shitty?

This is surreal. I dont think a team could be this ineffective if they even tried.


Geez - what a stupid comment about those cheerleaders. Make all the jokes you want in private, but he's gonna get in trouble for saying that on a national broadcast.


wow. don't even know what to say...this is so not good.


wowowowowowow...does this team have a coach?


Ty really left behind that "snap" curse of his. The bastard! And, his vaunted "block air" curse on the OL line.

Ty sucked at recruiting. Ty easily outcoaches whatever we have contracted since.

Go Irish


My high school team could have played better than this. Also, my high school didn't have a team.


Holy shit. What a stupid penalty.

Nice effort by Manningham to hang on to that.


This is beyond comprehension.

Our seniors fucking idiots. They are worthless.

Yes I said it, and I'll stand behind it. With 2 exceptions, Zibby and Laws. The rest shouldn't be on the field.


is this being done on purpose? this team is in a downward death spiral...


Lack of tackling? Check.


zibby sucks!!!


That's it. I have other things to do today.


Demetrius Jones is looking smarter every play. Why be associated with this?

I live in Jersey and this team is looking as bad as the Terry Shea led Rutgers teams...


We're not even going tot have 0 yards for the game

17-0 Michigan


and there goes the sound

worst team in D1 and i would bet some of 1A


Once this breaks 20-0, I'm turning this off and doing something else. I really have better things to do than have my entire day ruined by this.


ND is just the tonic Michigan needed to get over those two ugly losses to Appetizer State and the fuppin Ducks.


just did something I have not done in 20 plus years of following Notre Dame football. I turned the game off in the first half. Wow we are a joke.


i am very curious to see what happens when we play the "cupcakes." we've played three teams of different skill levels and haven't shown up yet.


weis should resign at the half. i'm leaving to go to a bar and drink my sorrows away. i can't believe i am spending so much money to fly to south bend next weekend to see the next game. i'm sorry for bailing... perhaps the team will play better without me watching. have fun, everybody.


omg, that stupid commercial!!!!!!


Okay everyone, this is officially the last game we can mention Willingham.

His recruiting did really hurt us this year. But after 3 weeks and seemingly no improvement it's time to focus on the team and staff now.


i hope we can hold onto the ball this next drive. 3 and out then punt would be a success at this point.


There is no way we don't loose at least 4 high profile recruits b/c of this pathetic excuse for football. Carrol and Meyer have got to be loving this.


worse than pathetic, if that's possible - and it surely looks like it is...


I think the last time I turned off my TV in the first half of an ND game was during Ty's last season. Didn't think it would happen this season, but I'm expecting it will.


Turn the game back on Andrew. We have to take this ass whippin' together.


Blaming willy is overdone. I now blame weis. I dont care if they lose but I cant stand them humiliating themselves


Gotta' give it to Hart,a man of his words. This is one of the rare times when everyone feels bad for a network .. imagine being in a booth, getting paid, and having to endure this, let alone grasp (lie) about something good to say about us.

Time for the "F" word: FIRE.

Go Irish


hear hear obediah


Weis has mastered the three dimentions of the game.

Penalties, Fumbles, and Sacks.


Go Cubs. Seriously, I'll take any ray of hope right now......if that's possible


FIRST DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW WWWWN


it's not a big house, it's a whore house


Sorry for the lapse, I had to eat. I came back and turned on the game and promptly threw up.


ooh heres a trivia question... what team does it f'ing suck to be a fan of right now?


alright, the TV is still on - because I apparently can't get enough of this crap. Ugh.


D-walk wouldn't have done shit with this line.


you sorry pieces of shit. do not give up on these kids. did you think they were going to come out and dominate?

Charlie can be blamed for trying to be too cute at the beginning of the game again. That is it.


LOL, Domer - I'm glad I haven't eaten yet.


5 fumbles, three sacks and I dont know how many penalties.....that's not willingham's fault


JC needs to fix the clock in his head. It's running slow


We cannot insist of splitting the TE wide on passing downs. The friggin DE has a free shot at Claussen.


why can we not get off a pass. is it coverage?


Back in the Davie era, I had a tshirt I wore tailgating that said "Drinking Because We Suck". I'm wearing it again.


and an interception for good measure


Agreed, JohnWA. And he doesn't need to do that either.


un.be.liev.able


Yup, I am done watching


Brian Q, I agree - that's why I kept the game on. I haven't been a fairweather fan of the Irish yet, and I don't want to....

Interception. [contains rage] Goody.


Brian, I'm not giving up on these kids- I think they'll improve and we'll be much better later this year. However, I don't want to watch them get killed this game - it just turns my stomach and ruins my day.

And I'm not angry at them - Charlie asks for total responsibility for their performance, and I'm throwing it all on him. He and his staff (with the exception of CB, I think) need to coach much, much better.


I think we need to face the fact that cw is great with talent and experience but maybe not so great with just talent (is that too obscure?)


i am so fucking embarrased


This is gonna be a long season boys.


well, at least we dont have to worry about losing another bowl game


Dominate? How about compete? FUCKING COMPETE? Can't expect that?


My wife asked me to tape the game for her. I'm trying to remember if I'm mad at her about anything enough to not delete it before she gets home.


It's the idiotic pass protection scheme. We got the 5 OL and one running back, everyone else is split wide. The DE just slides down a few yards, creating an angle the LT can't cover, and, bang, instant pressure.


Someday we'll all look back on this day and...be pissed off all over again.


Brian Q,

Not dominate - be competitive. I'm patient, I'll wait.

One thing is for sure: Mallet's feeling NO pressure anymore.


Thank God for yard work. Gas powered or electric weed eater? I like gas.


whole line substitutes; Sam Young was out that series. 70 was left tackle and wiffed on a cut on 2nd down; 3rd down #9? drove him back.

WHERE'S THE GUTS OFFENSIVE LINE?


gwzimm - good point. Glad it'll be a quiet offseason for ND.


charlie has not had this team ready for a game yet... what did he do all summer?


the o-line is not engaging the rush, just playing backwards pattycake


I'm still here. Can't crow when we win if I don't eat it when we, uh, whatever is we are right now


fucking defense looks like a bunch of traffic cones


inept and demoralized...this may get even uglier


Our defense is average to bad at getting off blocks and pursuing the ball carrier.


Pssst, Corwin and co.:

They're running to the left


This is the first game I have ever given up on after 3 minutes into the 2nd quarter.


Gas weedeaters are the best on a day like this because there is always the possibility of carbon monoxide poisoning.


can we officially give up on the season? Should I also officially give on ND? 15 years, and now I am ready to quit. The Daviengham years were painful but at least we executed. I can't imagine a 140-0 beating at the hands of USC. I want my Fall Saturdays back


I hate Kevin White...I really hate him


This is terrible. They couls score 100 points if they want to


these guys are laughing their asses off


Now Michigan's just fucking around.


Their players are laughing and enjoying ourselves. In the 2nd quarter. Just ... kill me now.


I wish I could just into hibernation until next year.


Are we going to lose to Navy?


McGuire, Nessler, and Greise loooove this.


On offense, just go deep. please.


We're letting a freshman have a practice session!


Shit Eirewax, do you have season tickets that, with annual giving included, run you roughly $200 per ticket???? You can't even imagine how I feel about Dr. White......


Domerla - yes.


domerla - a very distinct possibility


Sharpley...Sharpley...Sharpley


I have 2 tickets to ND/UCLA, I am most likely going to sell them. I may wait until tomorrow morning when I'm sober and calmed down to see if I change my mind. But at this point, why would I want to watch a team like this play?

Last week was the most disgusted I've ever been with an ND team until today.


Claussen might enroll at Northern Illinois if he get's near a phone during halftime.

I bet that would piss off Demetrius Jones.


very distinct possibility that we lose to EVERYONE if we can't score


Anyone see the Mr. Woodcock flick? Is it good?


HPB - ROFL


The first 0-fer season, boys and girls, presented to you by Dunkin' Donuts


Boru,

Normally, that would really be funny - except for right now.


I can see us losing to Navy, after all we are 119th out of 119 in rishing


Mike S...I feel your pain. I bought 2 home games from my brother-in-law (150% face value)


I would not scream for Sharpley. This game is over, might as well not tear down Clausen's confidence (what's left of it).


And we're still only 3 scores down. It's good that Charlie's shufflin the deck at Offensive Line. Who wants to play? Sam Young, and the other tackle, I forget your name, you gonna fight for your job. It's not yours til you earned it.


The band, QB-ed by the Leprechaun, would gain more yards than our team.


Here comes the blitz! He's gone!@


Time for the SI cover:

"You Gotta Have... Hart"
His words and legs vaporize Notre Dame

or

"Tough Position to Be In"

Jimmy Clausen is left over center as Notre Dame fades from the sportslandscape


FUCK!!


How many recruits will bail?


4 scores


If I were a 2008 commit, I'd tell Weis to stick it


I wouldn't bail as a recruit - crap, your odds of starting next year are tremendous.


Aaaaaaand.... Time to turn off this game and do something else.

I'll check out these comments later - maybe join in the fray then.

Until then, keep your heads up kids - and here's to Charlie and the rest coaching better.


Rome,

Take a lap


... And then the depression set in.


What the hell kind of D is that!!!


everyone's laughing...this is Irish hel. I've died and my sins were just too great


24-0.

What a pathetic disgusting joke.

Someone needs to protest this atrocity of an atheltic endeavor.

Hey Irish, that's how you beat a blitz.

Take note.


on the bright side, this comments page is much funnier when we really really suck.


I've had enough. I'm going out


I am betting this season is going to set back ND football a few decades. Can we all just go back to being the #20 school in USA today rankings and wrap up the football team?

I am just waiting for Tate to fumble and put the nail in the coffin


On the bright side, we'll have a lot of return yards!


Why isnt AA returning?


Everyone take a lap

Mr. Woodcock

Or go to the fridge; your choice


HORRIBLE CALL


not that it matters


Yeah. I wonder how many recruits bolt after watching this team get drilled week in and week out

and they are going 4-8 at best.

May is going to be right.

That man needs killin just so I can watch him die.


mo crum baby!!!!!! talk about overrated. all lower caps cuz i refuse to put my beer down.


This is the worst offense I have ever seen. PATHETIC.


AA got hurt on the fumble.

With our O-Line, why make it worse


THE WHEELS HAVE FALLEN OFF THE TRUCK?

Hey asshole, we bought the truck without the wheels and with no engine.


I'm turning Protestant after this game


days like this are difficult since i quit drinking. maybe i'll get some heroin.


McGuire hit that one on the head: "The offensive line is doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING."

aaaand the swing pass


Students are still standing. Good for them. I'd be so drunk if I were there I wouldn't be able to.


I've decided to just listen to the game on the radio. In my car. In my garage. With the engine running. And the windows down. It's better like this.


3rd and 25...let's run TT up the middle


puke


For every lap I run, the coaching staff needs to run 10.


go for it


0-12 is not a fantasy... we're well on our way, y'all. DJ got out of Dodge at just the right time. It's too bad he didn't take the rest of the offense with him.


Voice in the Wilderness...say hello to Knute an Leahey for me


Why not?

better than going backwards after every single attempted pass.

I really want the entire coaching staff to commit seppuku at halftime.

Disgraceful


why did we sign weis to a 10 year extension?
i have had it with weis.


first down!!!

Let's go Fuckers!!!!


Kjdfodajfosdajfvosdjfosdaijfopadsijfoi


yea!!!!


why not!


Hell YEAH! Let's run the fake punt offense.


Nice. They got that right. Why not?


Wow, TT got positive yards. I think i pissed my pants


Okay, my new theories:

1) Weis is letting Michigan go up 60 in the first half, so maybe we'll be playing the D&D club in 4th quarter and score that first offensive touchdown.

2) All games so far have been robot genius subterfuge. USC won't even bother to practice before coming to South Bend. The Weis trap will snap shut and we will demolish them. Everyone will have to stop complaining about Weis not winning the big game!

nice couple of plays ND!


First good thing I've seen TT do in a long time!


lets do something now boys


I've got Sherlock, we need to keep running our offense out of the punt formation!!!!


is there anything we can do?


Kumara on the fade. Do it. Now.


jc telegraphs like a high schooler...cw you have no clothes


GET THE BALL OFF!!!!


What's the record for sacks allowed in a game? Seriously.


another fake punt..come on


throw the damn ball.


EireWax, Knute's here and he says Leahy didn't make it. Who'd a thunk it?


fake punt every play


K Jackson...the worst thing for college fball ever!!


If we get it down to 17 points at halftime, then I'll continue to watch.


wow!!! at this point I don't even want to schedule Middle Tenn, Wofford, William and Mary, The Citadel....


Someone needs to be fired for this


Out of a cannon


into Du Lac


with lead weights attatched to his ankles


on the other hand, that was a funny allstate commercial. if you think of the car as ND right now...


I give Jimmy credit for trying to pass it to the ND band director.


I thought our defense would at least do something against them.


Our biggest worry is bone spurs on the punter's leg...or maybe his kicking leg growing to twice the size of his non-kicking leg...


it's hard to do anything when Michigan starts with the ball in ND territory every single time.

The only thing I'm really ticked is blowing that blitz and giving up a TD.


Can you hear those recruits scrambling for the door?


say what you want about charlie, but our defense looks like shit today


Charlie looks hungry.


wow...cant stop the run...last year we couldnt stop the pass, this year its the run...sweet


I haven't read the comments yet, but can someone PLEASE tell me where to find a radio broadcast of the game online. These are by far the worst announcers I've ever heard.


Hey, they extended Charlie's contract when he JUUUUST lost to USC. Now after 5 consecutive blowouts, should he give money back?

Me thinks the defense just resigned...


Knute but not Leahey Voice in Wilderness? maybe purgatory for Leahey (or for you?)


tom, that was a funny one! Fired. Out of a cannon. How about into a brick wall? Drowning just seems so inhumane and barbaric.


I was thinking 45-13 before kick off.

Now thinking 52-6


CSTV, sign up. Be glad you even get a tv signal...


where would the 6 come from?


Most sacks in a game (player): 6.0
Most sacks in a game (team): 15.0


http://www.ncaa.org/library/ reco...ecords_book.pdf


I;m going to listen to the game on the radio too (did I mention I'm deaf?)


i heard charlie eats a box of tasty cakes between every quarter..

maybe he should hunger strike until we win a game


fantaaaaaaaaaaaastic tackling


Worse.

This team is about two seconds away from quitting

Yep. The D IS quitting

77-0 final


Not that it matters at this point, but did you see that ref tack on an additional yard onto that spot?


The players have given up and that is sad.

Put scout teams out there. At least they'll show some effort that we can be proud of.


And over on ESPN, the Moulder of Men is giving OSU all that it can handle


The one bright spot here is that Charlie might be savings Lloyd Carr's job.


Our D doesn't even want to hit the guy that guaranteed victory. I think that's a bad sign.


The D does look like they are starting to quit. Can' completely blame them. With absolutely no offense, it doesn't matter what they do.


Bench the ENTIRE OFEENSIVE LINE! THE BACK UPS CANNOT POSSIBLY BE WORSE.


Hey, don't despair yet, we can make halftime adjustments!!! Not


I've switched from beer to hard liquor to the realy hard stuff/..\\


Ty's boys hanging tough with OSU; amazing, since Ty still is responsible for our O's execution, no?

I just realized : big weather change in NE - I'm gonna wake up from this dream that none of you would believe!

Go Irish


Let's not give Ty too much credit. Ohio St.'s offense is almost as inept as ours


If they lose to OSU, Carr's gone anyway. People have wanted him gone for a while


I can has punt?


Yeah - caturday is now the lead story over ND football on a fall Saturday.


Hey forget the hard liquor, break out the sura (methanol, for all you not from the indian subcont.) It will make you go blind, just what I need watching this debacle.


I'd take Carr here right now


Michigan won't be so proud of their victory over Notre Dame after both Duke and Navy whip our butts too.


I really wonder when an offensive touchdown will take place. I sure as hell don't see it today.


Dejavu. After I had lunch today I made a deposit in the toilet that looked just like the ND offense.


He said that after the first game morons.


here, a link this time to CSTV's radio, Westwood1: http://all-access.cstv.com/cstv/...r.html?code=nd&

This is utterly... heartwrenching. reminds me of the 2003 Florida State game. I need a drink.


I don't think that's a play sheet Weis is holding, because it looks like sheet that came with the new Windows operating system...and that has a lot of holes too.


I want Paul MaGwire as our next OLine coach. Now!!!

simple game even Paul can figure it out.


say what you want about the announcers, but they are really giving it to our O Line. I'm enjoying it.


Well at least MacGuire is entertaining


and he's right. Might as well beat that dead horse.


I just got a frontal lobotomy...who's winning?


Mike Hart is gonna get 250 yards today


it's 11 (ND) on 1 (Hart) and Hart is winning


Nice tackling Wooden


Hey, just watching these guys play is enough to give anyone a frontal lobotomy


Why do I keep watching this? Why am I torturing myself.

I feel for these players, they have to feel like shit


did you see that tackle attempt in the backfield?


Isn't Lou available to coach?


I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

Cheers.


I'd laugh if I weren't so angry right now


Good coverage that time.


i love the arm tackle.... a classic, i dont give a shit effort


I'm numb.


Those players are getting a free education. Feel for those kids in the stands that are watching this abomination, and worse, had to pay for it.


We had them in the backfield and can't stop them anyway


I am not sure how we went from well coached to this so quickly.

Mike Hart is really giving it his all today.


wash leading at half


Great tackle by Joe.


A new catch phrase: A Charlie horse of a different color ...(kinda long though)


Any chance we can just call it 60-0 at the half so we can watch FL/Tenn or tOSU/UW?


These players SHOULD feel like shit. I don't even feel bad for them. Especially the offense. Bench the entire Offensive line in the second half. you cannot win. And the O line deserves to be laughed at. bench them


late hit hart. . . hard.


That ball needs to be picked.


and more missed tackles


our defense is one yard off the line of scrimmage. we are letting them run down hill.


Note to BGS: It's time to start serious crticism of this coaching staff.


Anyone else think we'll win a game this year?
Navy's starting to worry me...


just frustrated. i don't advocate the cheap shot.


Play like shit. Feel like shit.


yes it did. But it doesn't matter. Our offense can't go forward


UW pounding OSU .. they can SCORE with a rook at QB ... super drive; score with :03 left in the half. ( 9 plays: 80 yards)

Meanwhile, in Ann Arbor: good O series for the Irish - they hung onto the ball and only lose 4 yards on the series. Progress!

GoIrish


I want to knock myself out with whatever I have at hand. Let's see, stapler or keyboard?


Hey Charlie do you wanna coach these guys or due blame Willingham just like everybody else.


Klug, if you smash your face into the monitor you might dislodge a few shards of glass.


Correction : Every single ESPN talking head and every single newspaper columnist is going to cream themselves if ND loses 77-0 and Washington beats Ohio State


stapler


FUCK THIS FUCKING FUCK.

THE DEFENSE NEEDS TO GET THE FUCK OFF OF A BLOCK ONCE IN A WHILE. I'm so fucking sick of seeing our DBs and LBs on fucking rollerskates 10-20 yards down the field.


Is this the worst ND team of all-time?

I would have to think it's up there.


Klug
Do you happen to have a gas oven?


Nice Tackle by Zibby.


I honestly hope we lose to Navy this year.


I think it very well might be the worst ND team of all time.

Definitely the worst O-Line


This is so frustrating. It's like watching a bottom feeder in IAA trying to play USC. No...its worse.


Boy, something is not right... Ever since I watched that damn kick sail through the uprights waaaay back on a November evening, it has been down


We're going to make Duke look like a powerhouse.


and yeah, might as well lose the Navy streak this year rather than lose it when you really need it

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's 31


a Division III school would beat them right now.


wait, even 1-AA guys win sometime....


Where's the fucking coverage?


this would be a good tear to end that freakish win streak we have over navy, just so it doesn't happen in a season where it might matter...


The Yankee/Sox game is going to take 6 hours. That should be an adequate substitution for a gas oven.


I say this is the worst college football team. EVER. ANYWHERE.


Okay, we've now lost to three top-25 teams. Oh, wait....


let loose the resident evil.....


Even if these frosh and soph kids are talented, what the hell is their psyche going to be like after this year?
Can they ever recover?


Nobody can EVER call Weis a liar. He has developed one hell of a nasty football team.


I have two tickets to Navy for sale.


There is no "little bit" about the regrouping that is needed, you horse's-ass!


Sale?

Hell, I'll give mine away


BREAKING NEWS:

Clay High School will replace Notre Dame for the second half of the game against Michigan.


Duke's Coach Vaas has a little something up his sleeve. Appetizer State Univ. could beat Duke and I can't say the same thing about ND.


isnt' it great that even on a prevent defense, our QB gets sacked?


Surely there is some blind alumni that might want to buy my Navy tickets.....


Jimmy, you can throw the ball away when you get ouside the pocket.

Swing pass for 3!


Holy sweet lord I've never seen anything like this.

Ever.


UCF is keeping with Texas its a pretty good game on ESPN 2


I wish I had a cave I could crawl into and stay there for a few years.


why not just take a knee for the whole 2nd half, the quicker it's over the quicker we can start talking about our return to glory


I really hate Lloyd Carr.


He'd have to be more than blind Jerry....


remember when oleary was going to come coach ND?


From the apparent preparation one may deduce that Allen Iverson has been ND's practice coordinator.


I hate Carr as well. However, I would have loved him if he had said what he was thinking.

reporter: "Why is your defense playing so aggressively"

Carr: "Because ND couldn't move the ball on a pile of 11 dead infants."


Saunders, James, and Flutie are downright giddy. Pricks one and all.


Hell only five dead infants could stop this offense


Total Fucking Yards!

UM - 218
ND - 11


progress


how can one div i team be so bad???


Quit typing the words "dead" and "infants". Thank you.


The sad thing is .. ABC is acting like our PR department, and ESPN is just showing statistics, With that in mind, CW is setting all-time football "worsts" everywhere you look.


Ugh .. Mark May being objective about our ineptitude: Lou agreeing.

When's fencing start?

Go Irish


Maybe NY times had it right after all. I guess ND has become Stanford with a TV contract. Although they have a ways to go to catch up to Stanford in academics, they seem to have caught up in football. Time to bury the ghosts, stop paying obscene amounts of money to the coaches and do something else.

Hey, but look at the bright side. I don't have to feel guilty about missing games on TV anymore!


well hopefully transfer applications will be down this year so i can get in as a sophomore next year haha why not put me in?


It's so bad, I am actually preferring to listen to John Sterling and Suzyn Waldman on the radio.

It's just that bad

11 yards is progress.

and this is going to be a looooooooooooong and painful year.

a) We suck

b) Ty is going to bring Washington from putrescence up to mediocrity with the ocassional nice win. (Grante this will be about his high water mark, but whatever)

c) O'Leary has quietly been doing a great job over at UCF

d) The talking heads are going to rub this in to ND nation all. year. long.

I would at this point suggest dropping your sport package on cable/satellite.


Serious question.

Anyone think Nebraska can pull it off tonight?


this is my senior year?


Why couldn't we get Urban Meyer?


Their frickin' freshman QB is laughing at us. And our guys have packed it in.


FUCK THIS


Rome. No. I think SoCal blows up the Cornholes tonight.


You can't judge Jimmy, Armando, Grimes, anyone until this FUCKING OFFENSIVE LINE MOVES MICHIGAN BACK ONE PLAY. ONE PLAY, LATINA, THAT'S ALL I ASK FOR.

Mmmm, Stoli on the rocks........


i think gruden will be available shortly. should we try again with him? rememember the www.irishgruden.com days?


Sadly, I moved passed anger to laughing about how bad we are. Any further mistakes are just comical.


I don't think anyone is beating USC

Nebraska isn't that good. We will lose by 100, and UCLA beat them last year


I am not watching again until we score an offensive touchdown


I cannot believe that this team ranked in the top 5 of recruiting. This is so disgusting I can't watch anymore. I mean honestly, their is not a single bright spot on the team. Seriously, I thought Brady had it rough running for his life, this line is sooooo bad. I would go into more aspects of how pathetic we look, but my fingers are already tired from typing.

I am switching to OSU/WA, Go Huskies!!


I guess your not watching until week 7


Don Shula was supposedly interested in ND's job in '82.


See you next year, ND'90


I wonder what Coach Weis is saying right now to the team.


ND'90, What are you going to do with your Saturdays for the next six weeks?


Coach Weiss "Hail Mary, full of grace...."


Clearly ND needs a Capital One card - because our offensive points and team rewards apparently don't kick in yet


Probably trying to lift their confidence some.

I can't imagine him screaming or breaking things. He's probably already done that.

He just needs to lift them up and get them to believe in themselves. Because quite honestly nobody in their right mind does right now.


Well, at least we know Weis isn't videotaping our opponents' sideline signals.


Capital 1 card, that shit is FUNNY!


Let's play Auburn


charlie just looks as befuddled as anyone else..... can I go up to the president and demand a change?


Who would of thunk that the basketball team would be a welcome diversion this year?


Auburn would kill us. Anybody would kill us.


Heard the rumors that Weis will replace Bill 'write-a-chek' as coach of the Pats next season?


This is enough to drive a man to pornography, drinking, and cursing.

2 of 3 down...


Jones didnt really transfer. Its all part of Charlies plan...hes going to bring Jones out after halftime and run the spead offense...He was trying to lull Michigan for the first half...its all part of his great plan


In a weird way, I find this team-wide ineptitude to be thrilling, in a rubber-necking sort of way. I really don't think we'll come close to breaking .500. For the first time since 04, my yard will get raked, the gutters will be cleaned, the garage will get reorganized, and my wife will have my undivided attention on saturdays.


bring on the green jerseys too?


yeah and doesnt The Bus still have a season left?


My wife just asked me to take down the huge ND flag flying over our front yard...

I don't have the heart to do that, as I believe in Our Lady's University, win or lose.

May we all see another team take the field 2nd half.

In Notre Dame!


In a way Domer Guy, this is pornography - explicitly offensive. Or explicitly lacking offense.


"Voice in the Wilderness"

Sorry if I offended. I figured everyone with a weak stomach would be long gone by half.


the second half team will be worse than the first half team unless UM puts their third string in.


Wooden is a 5th year player and doesnt know to turn around when the ball is in the air. Our offensive line cant block anyone. I dont think we could score if the defense wasnt on the field. This is horrible. I cannot believe that Weis would try to even sell this product.


If I wasn't half drunk right now I'm be F$%*ing Pissed


wonder why weiss had the shit eating grin in the begining of the season. Is this his secret?


well, the only positive i can think of now is the relative lack of penalties from the O-line.


Larry Bird got fat!


Rumor has it that the ND Nation boards have been shut down.


i know you were probably kidding, jerry, but i think the green jerseys are an excellent idea.

really, the team needs a psychological jump-start. go with the green jerseys at home next week and stick with them..

the season is not lost if we can somehow get to a bowl game...


I went to Holy Cross in Worcester MA. (remember we beat you guys a few years ago in the NIT?) Our football team was and still is horrible, but I bet that an ND-HC football matchup right now would result in a great game..and perhaps clausen would move hte ball more than 11 yards..

we should send him some hair gel


I like the Green Jersey idea...esp. if we can put a yellow one on the QB to keep him from getting hurt


Latina has to go now, or CW's ass is out the door too. How is a team "all-time" pathetic when the world knew, since last season, that we'd have to be a power running team this year?

Look at the facts: our coaching sucks, big time. Only CB gets a pass, and I'm reviewing that one, too.

Go Irish


Obediah, you're cool, Brother! The comments today have been friggin hilarious. ND guys always have a warped sense of humor.
I am still watching because I've always been something of a masochist. In fact anyone still watching this debacle is truly a self loathing, miserable wretch.


Clausen hasn't moved the bowl at all. look at the stats. He has negative NEGATIVE 40 yards


im praying for a comeback...if i turn it off and they come back ill be kicking myself for not watching it


Domer Guy, I noticed that too. Nothing is working at NDnation.


hey Voice, I resemble that remark! ;-)


I like the call to challenge, even with no chance of turning it over. It's not like we would "need" it today, and ANYTHING to get our offense that close the the endzone.


i am watching for jimmy's sake, i don't think any of this is his fault. i like the what i see in the kid... seriously


Our jersey color doesn't matter except for the yellow stripe we should put on the back.


Any chance that Dillon can scrimmage the varsity?


Looks like Zibby's had enough of this bullshit. He may punch out Jake Long before this game is over....with Long's helmet still on.


Ryan,

Just hope for a touchdown for chrissakes.

Baby steps.


how about a first damn down in succession


over fifty yards in penalties


the worst michigan team in 40 years is destroying ND


Welcome back, offensive penalties!


I don't care how "young" the team is. Penalites equals bad coaching.


One of the main drawbacks to watching this shit is all of the good games we are missing on the other channels.


Fire John Latina!

Fire The Leprechaun!

Fire Richard McBrien!


http://f3.yahoofs.com/ymg/ thatsr...mSM2H.CgOgE_JKV


The new O-line


I just read where CW has brought in three top ten recruiting classes. Wouldn't that mean he has a bunch of good juniors on the team? where the hell is the talent?


I've got to go marinade some steaks. I'll be right back.


DJ has got to be rolling on the floor. Darius has made the best call, so far, in the Weis Rain ... er, reign.

Go Irish


I admit to taking a few shots at Walkers "patience" last year, but this year everyone seems to be running with their eyes closed. Pick a direction and run straight no matter what is there.


Jimmy looks like Paulus


speaking of shots............


To all you TY apologists, it looks like he's up to his old tricks again...


Jerry - the talent is everywhere. There's no caching.

Go Irish


ITS THE CURSE OF RON POWLUS! THERE IS NO OTHER REASON!

RON POWLUS HAS RETURNED TO CURSE US.


correx: actually, loads of 'caching' with all the talent .. just very little 'coaching.'

Go Irish


i dont want to see Schwapp play again... its pathetic.


Jake Long could take the place of our entire O-line.


I'm guessing the Weis-coaching-theory places priority on scheme over fundamentals.


can I pls get another preview of dirtysexymoney?


96alum, ever time they show a shot of Charlie you get a preview.


one t-down..that's all I ask...


*throws up*

still 31-0?


I'm back. Did we score?


funny bud lite commercial...hopefully the students snuck cans and not bottles into this game


Of course we now realize that instead of Jessica Alba we got Rosie O'Donnell.


obediah - DW had to protect BQ's tail last year WHILE running the ball. With a poor OL, he'd have been a wonder with 300 yards for the year. 1240? wow!

Go Irish


ESPN math is smrt:

NO YDS AVG LG TD
Golden Tate 4 106 26.5 18


its sad when I find myself asking that they please dont blitz just for once.


Rome,

guess I'll get my wish ten to twelve more times since it's "TV gold" to show the losing coach


Does ND still allow drinking in the dorms?

Will this season change that policy, one way or the other?


131 visitors online, down from 200 at the half


That's a lot of suicides.


can this team find it in their guts to defeat boston college on 10/13? interesting game tonight eagles - yellowjackets. let's game chat here during that one. c'mon guys.. it'll be fun!


three games without an offensive touchdown. Three friggin games. Three. Not three quarters. GAMES!!!!


GAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMES!!! Sorry. I'm losing it.


shit


oh fuck this...... I'm going to help my wife cook


I would like to see a throw - any throw - where our "d back" actually turns his head before the ball is caught in the end zone.


Do you remember when Charlie came to South Bend and guaranteed that his teams would be "all day tough"? Do you remember that? Isn't that funny!
All day gutless is what they are.


My girlfriend made me go to the bedroom to watch in the first quarter, and refuses to bring me a beer.


we should've went after Mallot last year. He can score touchdowns.


Call me a fairweather, but I am done with the 2007 Irish...I have better shit to do with my two days off then watch a team that isn't close to being competitive and plays like they don't give a shit.

I am going to put a hurting on some team in NCAA 08 tonight.


Rome--are you in Rome, Italy? Where do you watch the games?

Bcuster, you asked what CW did all summer. He was in Boston, in a courtroom, suing the surgeons who saved his fat fanny when he had the most common complications of any surgery.


I am SUFFERING like never before!


I just woke up from 2005...what happened??????


put the walk on qb in now...


Demetrius must be having 2nd thoughts


bcuster -

No chance versus BC. If they had no talent, their heart is much bigger than ours. They are going to physically and mentally beat us up. It'll be loads of fun for the Eagles.

GoIrish


I'm in San Antonio. To my pleasure, I still have the Spurs.


You guys are missing some great golf on NBC


It's like those old NFL films blooper reels without the Mel Blanc voiceovers...


put in the walk on OLs now. go around the student sections and ask for someone to block


golden tate is good...only positive so far


Paul, what's Tiger at?


wow john nice hands all state


Hopefully you will have an offensive line, RedMahoney


Carlson got gator arms on that one.


Tate will probably transfer tomorrow to No Illinois


UT Fl: There's a good game


"second down, blitz coming...."


Fuck you Bonnie.


Tigers at -19. He's pretty good at golf


Thats real classy what Jones did....


we might get past midfield...


Yeah, he sure was a spineless bastard


If that is true about DD, he can rot in hell.


If we can perfect that play....we could move the ball


thank God for ruffin th epasser


The guys at EA Sports fucked up on their ratings...I seem to be able to score with the Irish.


Jones gets the short-sighted moron of the year award. He might be starting again next week. Oops. I forgot. He's terrible.


HOLY SHIT, we could actually get a FG out of this.


what channel is the UF game on?


Red.....you must be playing in Dynasty mode in the year 2017


THROW THE BALLL!!!!


FUMBLE!!! What is that, 8 fumbles


another sack, number 8


JIMMY, THROW THE FUCKING BALL AWAY.


thankGod for falling on the ball


re : Jones.

Realize that he was probably #3 on the depth chart behing Sharpley. Then add that Crist is coming in next year, and Charlie clearly preferred Clausen and why should he have stuck around one more day.


I hope UF loses...I hate them almost as much as I hate UM..


charlie got no-caused in his med mal; that was bad...


shitfuck, fuckshit


Bonnie Bernstein goes down like an ice cold beer in August.


Good thing we have two weeks to prepare for Navy.


he is facking that injury. He just doesnt want to get manhandled anymore


we can't handle 8 more games of this...let alone 8 more years


Maybe DD got word he would play behind this line again and hightailed it out of town...can you blame him?


Voice -

Remember when CW used to talk of being a "Jersey Guy"? I'm from CT - grew up hearing loads and loads of talk from them.

Tell me - is this your idea of "tough"?

Go Irish


Yeah I understand that he wasnt high on the depth chart, but you dont just leave a program and dont tell anyone. There are ways to go about things that dont make you and your team look foolish. Furthermore, look at someone like Arnez Battle...hes making a living in the pros right now...


faking *shows how much i have drank for this game


terrible F...alomst completed to the Dbacks


Caulcrick is going to have a busy week calling all the Heisman voters to make sure they will be watching next weekend.


our star...the punter...just like back in the dayz of hunter smith


Apple cider taste good


Please, just one Touchdown...


OK, I missed the part where he didn't tell anyone (I stopped watching at halftime). You're right. Gutless and pathetic.


Ok - realistically, we can beat duke right?

I can't believe we didn't land Meyer


http://www.thebestpageintheunive...t/c.cgi? u=irule

you guys will get a kick out of this i think


its hard to develop a running game without a FB - especially because even when he is in the game he cannot pick up his blocking assignment - just leaves his feet and whiffs.


If the Irish score a touchdown today, I am running to the HS down the street and ripping down a goal post.

I truly believe Duke is the only possibility for a W on this schedule.

What the fuck do you think Carrol is going to do to the Irish? He hates Charlie as it is.


Why do they start selling Halloween candy so early?

My teeth are encrusted with an Orange Butterfinger buildup - mmm peanut buttery.


My high school basketball team might be able to beat the Irish.... and trust me, we sucked


I think it is time to petition for a mercy rule. Because we'll need one when USC comes to town.


sharpley


we cant even run a decent draw being down 38 points... that is how pathetic this O-Line is at getting off the ball and initiating contact.


I cant even imagine the shit I am going to take at work on Monday...every person walks in and comments about how bad the Irish looked.

I might hurt someone. If I get fired, I am going to sue Charlie.


how do you post links here? this haloscam thingie seems to block it...


Bill H., I have never seen a Notre Dame team roll over and play dead like this year's squad. Talent and toughness have nothing to do with each other, and we obviously, and sadly, have neither.
You can build on exhibitions of toughness. CW will be hardpressed to find any glimmer of light from this no-pride crew.


Seriously, are we at the point where Weis is on the hot set? How many more performances do we allow like this one before we say enough is enough?


That is one difference between Haloscam and the Irish line.


I'll only catch hell if they lose to Duke. Hey, it might happen at this rate.....


me too, i work with a bunch of OSU and Michigan fans. I still proudly display my ND helmet on my desk. It is going to be a loooong year.


let's start talking about desperate houserwives


Fuck yeah he is on the hot seat. This team is going to have 1 or 2 wins...is that ever acceptable?


I just hit control C on my mac to copy and then control v to paste it


If ND sends in a new quarterback, I might step away for the season. Our offense sucks - no one is good enough for fear of injury to override need for experience.


how about on a pc?


Jorge Posada just made an "all-time" play at the plate (NYY vs BRS) - for you folks into competitive sports. OSU now ahead of Ty's guys, 17-7.

Go Irish


Some things you can always depend on. Such as people hating ND, and band members being socially akward dorks. Ah, stability.


Atleast Washington's losing


I really don't want to see Evan come in. It's not Jimmy's fault that our Oline sucks.


What was that? Did I just see a block before the line of scrimmage? They're pulling out all the stops now!


luckily i have weddings to attend the next few weeks. I dont know how much more of this i can take.


i dunno, the band held the line better than the o-line is doing


bcuster-I have no idea...sorry man...


and to think i could have getting laid today instead of suffering through this BULLSHIT


To think, I could have been doing anything else besides suffering through this bullshit.


Evan is going in so Jimmy doesn't get hurt---not because he's playing badly.
Can some junior college guys transfer in like they do on the west coast?


terrible F.......


Well, I feel like I've been fucked pretty hard.


I let my fiancee go to alumni weekend without me because I wanted to see ND win...I could probably be drinking keg beer AND getting laid in some sktechy apartment...its a travesty


lol!


obediah,
w/ no lube


i already went through a 12 pack and cant drive to get another...and the women is gone..damn my luck


thank God I have a bottle of vodka and a bottle of Gin in my freezer!


Instead of the Irish next week, I plan to have a nice little Saturday, we're going to go to Home Depot. Yeah, buy some wallpaper, maybe get some flooring, stuff like that. Maybe Bed, Bath, & Beyond...


I dont have any food either...I wish the chinese people still delivered beer with their food


Do you think John Carlson is happy that he came back? Could be on an NFL roster, making some coin...


I have never seen any ND team roll over and play dead like this one.

As far as coaching changes go, my new chant is:
"Latina and Mendoza Have Got to Goza"


Bob Davie is a puke


oh wait...wine in the closet!!!!! sweet


I'm not sure if you guys have heard this but ND hasn't scored an offensive touchdown


i am using the excuse of getting a pizza to re-load on the brewskies... then its time to root for the huskers & watch with interest jackets - eagles..


I don't know if you guys have heard this but ND isn't very good this year.


They havent had many three and outs for the defense either


root for who beats the BC eagles!!!


"That is one difference between Haloscam and the Irish line." (on a reader being blocked by Haloscan)
--RedMahoney

Line of the day, Red!

Voice - I have to agree. It's one thing to get outplayed; another to not show up. This is not Notre Dame football. This is less than pathetic.

Go Irish


Im supposed to go to the BC game this year, I dont know if I want to spend the money on the ticket and waste a weekend..its sad because I havent been to ta game up there in 8 years and was excited about it...


anyone think there is a minimum of games that CW can win this year and still keep his job or is he safe regardless because of his costly extension?


Ryan there unless you have a winery in the closet you do not have enough wine to get over this loss.


RedMahoney - I think Carlson is going to have a terrible year. By keeping him in to block every play they are really highlighting his weakness.


they will give him one more year before the pressure starts

they made far too big a deal about him being the savior of the Irish to put him on the hot seat..plus any mention of him in trouble will hurt recruiting


First downs. Michigan 23. Notre Dame 6. Infriggincredible.

Latina and Mendoza Have Got to Goza


i can't bring myself to root against a catholic school in favor of a secular.. but i will not be heartbroken if the jackets win (big)


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Wow, he ran right over him


how can a 3rd string r-back get a 1st down against a 2nd string dfense


were getting taken by their backup offensive line, on their worst team in 40 years.....


i didn't enter the lottery this year; i had a feeling 2007 was going to be a bad one...


Thanks Bill.

You have to think Charlie is safe...the whole absence of upper classmen and all. Which I would buy into more if the team was competitive...worst offense in the Nation, 3 nauseating blow outs...anyone who says they aren't concerned about the coaches is crazy.


b/c they don't actually TACKLE anyone...they touch them and think that counts.


Ive got two bottles...If im standing after those, I may walk to the gas station...get a penthouse and some tallboys and pass out


Is the DL stuffed with straw?


Ryan...you got the idea!!preach on!!


ND was just what the doctor ordered for the ailing Michigan program.


Fire Me.


how can there still be 144 of us still watching this game.


Terrible "F"!!!!!!!!

Terrible "F"!!!!!!!!!!


FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FF


paul, i was thinking the same thing. what are we doing


I keep trying to turn it off but I can't.


Im not watching so much as playing on this and looking at youtube...


It's just too horrific.


Like I said before, I am a notorious masochist. I am watching because it hurts too damn good to stop.


I'm writing a letter to ComCast asking them to remove NBC from my cable package.


Ryan:

you seen this guy yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h? v=PvbL_5rH1QQ


It is like a train wreck. it is just terrible but you cant turn away.


I live up in Canada and my Winnipeg Blue Bombers are in first place in the East so atleast I have that going for me.


AWESOME...hahahahahaha


but you'll miss The Office. And Friday Night Lights (those actors can play better than the ND OL).


all across America, lesser teams are competing with the big boys. and winning sometimes, too.

and then there's us.


If Michigan has given up 6 first downs to us, they are in real trouble!

Go Irish


"Latina and Mendoza Have Got to Goza"

Racist!


there's a tremendous irony to getting screwed while not being able to score


Verne Lundquist gave EDSBS.com a shoutout during the FL/Tenn game. Rock on.


If we put this game on youtube it will prob get the most hits for a comedic performance within the week


As long as Charlie doesn't cry on the sidelines,
he won't be as bad as Gerry Faust.


hhahahahahahahhahahaha


sharpley intercepted...fittiing


Did you guys see that hilarious bit? That Evan.


sweet pass sharpley...or should we say fuzzley


It's time for Charlie to bring in some scary East European sadist to shape up the O-Line. Some one that will get our guys blocking no matter how many black eyes, cigarette burns, and severed hands of loved ones it takes.


at least we see why Clausen beat out Sharpley


Hey, as BIBLICALLY bad as we are at least we can say we lost to 3 really good teams.

GTech should win the ACC.

PSU Should win the Big 10

Michigan is still a high caliber team. Oregon was a hangover loss.

We suck at amazing levels. but at least we haven't had a historic loss.


Different QB same result


What would you trade/give up to get just one offensive linemen that blocks (our own Jake Long)?

I want to hear some responses.


I would give up me.


My left pinky, and my Wayne Gretzky rookie card


I would give up beer for the rest of the season.


I shouldnt have to sacrifice anything to get that...these players owe the University to do well...they are getting what...160,000 in education for free..each?


Don't do it, Domer Guy. You don't know what you're saying.


If Wayne Gretzky had heart, he would be Sidney Crosby.


Ryan:

I was just reading one of your posts, supra re: Demestrius's transfer and Arnez Battle.

...but if your Demetrius, aren't you pretty discouraged when you realize that CW promised Clausen the starting job to get him to commit?


I'm giggling at everything I see on NBC now.


Really tough to put any blame on qb's or rb's. This is the worst OL I've ever seen .. anywhere. Without an O- line, only Jim Brown could be great.

GoIrish


i'd give up televisiphonernetting


Patrick, please tell me your kidding


Isn't the news on NBC right now?


fire weis,
inject our players with HGH....
its been a long day.


you forgot Barry.


rusty..yeah that would suck, but you dont transfer two games into the season...I guess that I have the mentality that you either stick it out, or you get out, but you do it with some grace...If he wants to play, go elsewhere, but let people know what youre doing

Unless of course it says something about the coaching staff, that they dont care enough about the kids to try and keep them around...I dunno what I think


At least James is doing pretty good...


if only every team would play their third string defense.


Paul

I'm kidding because I'm just in a pissy mood.
I can't really say why...


Oh, yeah, now I remember.


That's it, I'm out of here.

Go Irish (please)


And Schmitt is blocking!! unlike our other FB


holy shmidt!! a FB blocked the right guy!!


I go to a wedding, I come home..all my stuff is put away..now I cant find anything...it would be nice if my girlfriend would leave notes about where my socks and bottle opener are...jesus


kick a field goal!


does anyone in here think this W for Michigan helps Carr's status at all?


Now I'm incoherent, let me try that again.

Paul

I'm kidding about Sid and Wayne.

I'm just in a pissy mood.
I can't really say why...


Oh, yeah, now I remember.


what the Hell? UM students go to class and they graduate? with a 38% Af-Am grad rate and 82% overall? sheesh


later guys...im hoping for a UCF win now


VICTORY! WE DIDNT LET THEM GET TO 60 POINTS!


see ya next week boys....maybe


terrible F


at least we didnt lose to App. State...


well... theres always next week.


If I had a son (I'm an alum) who verballed to us for '08, I'd take the high road .. and encourage him to "rethink." It appears that we may be lying to recruits.

Go Irish


2 years in a row we've done this too you. hopefully you can become as much our bitch as PSU had, I love 3 somes


i just threw up in my mouth watching that game


Only because we didn't play App. State...


thank god


dongshow: I gotta side with the ND fans on this one.

its probably better to lose with no talent than to lose with the talent UM has


Why is it so hard for analysts?

Craig James - "This is the most inept Notre Dame team on offense AND DEFENSE".

I'm not ready to shower our defense with praise, but it's clearly better than last year, and 2002 is the last great defense I remember having (my memory sucks).

Simply put, our defense is playing well enough to play games (at least before they get too tired from being on the field 59:30 a game.)


38-0. 0-3. YOU FUCKING SUCK.


So Michigan had one long drive for a score.

Everything else was inside 55 yards.

Carr at least was nice enough not to run it up on us.

You can bet poodle won't be so nice.


Just Another - you're correct, but Barry and Jim are a damn short list.

Go Irish


How many total yardage did we get in the offense?


it's now 147-59 over the last 5 years of this series


79 total yards

-6 rushing


Is Joe Moore dead?

Can we at least hire a medium to channel his spirit to someone?


BTW - Central Florida leads Texas in the 4th quarter. Central Florida has scored 24 points against the Longhorns. We won't reach that total until ....November.
Pathetic.

Time (past)to get the axes out.

Go Irish


now what? heads must roll!! I figured 1-7 was a real possibility, but 1-7 with a few TDs would still be acceptable. This is cover your eyes, Detroit Lions awful, Tampa Bay in the 70s awful, Should we demand a refund from Charlie?


Is it too early for analysis?

Has this offense always had the 2 inside guys cut block? It looks new to me, but maybe what's new is the DT's stepping over the prone linemen like they're dog piles.

That one play where the DE's beat the tackles, the DT's walked over the cuts, and all 4 met at JC's chin is the defining play for the OL this year.

Oh yeah... FUCK.


i hear jarious jackson is doing very well up in the cfl. he is the starting qb for the british coloumbia bengalcats...


i listened on the radio for a while... ara was really questioning what the f' charlie has done to this team...


FUCK THIS, FUCK ND, I FUCKING HATE THIS GOD AWFUL GODAMN TEAM


FUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKK


bcuster:

what in particular was he questioning?


maybe it is too early for analysis, but you can't pin our center trying to snap the ball to Tacopants on the youth of the team . . .


why did the Punter not get Player of the game? he's the only one who did his job


Yep

seems that O' Leary guy can coach.

*steam pours out of ears*


Bring back Ara!!!


Bring back holtz


It stuns, and hurts, to see the name Ara in the same sentence with Weis. When Ara lost (once) by a score as bad as today's he followed it up with a National Title.

We are in a very, very tentative position. I'd hate being our AD at this time, seeing how he's yet to hire a (football) HC capable of handling the job.

Change is in order, but this one will set us back years. If we only had good management (HC) and a decent OL coach, we'd be 2-1 now, if not better.

CW is failing. Kevin White, time to make some corrections. We have been sold a bill of goods, and I, for one, don't want the cost to escalate. Notre Dame is far too special.

Go Irish


he was questioning the "toughness" of the team charlie promised to deliver he sounded really sarcastic. he was down on charlie, believe me..


What are you advocating then Bill?


I don't know where to start on placing the responsibilities for the last 5 game debacle...but you could easily start with cornerback starters Wooden and Lambert. They should be playing Div. 2 ball.

I also can't see the advertised quickness/speed of Armando Allen...

In 50 years of listening/watching ND football...I have never seen a more comical display. Although Willingham's fingerprints are on 5th year seniors, seniors and juniors...Weis et al cannot duck their lack of coaching, motivation, etc. Jeeze...


I honestly think Kevin White is to blame. He should have been fired YEARS ago. I still think its FAR too early to blame Weis for any of this. Our plays might develop if the Oline could hold for 3 seconds.

Nothing can develop offensively without the O line first. Fix THAT first, then if failure continues, blame Weis.


the blame on Willingham has got to stop, regardless of the caliber of talent a particular player Weis was left with - he was dubbed as a coaching mastermind when he was brought in and he has not coached up to that tag.


Weis whipped up two 10-3 teams with Willingham's players. Why not now?


Weis has an excellent offensive playbook, but just can't execute it with how poor the O-Line plays.

On the other hand, he really has not proved adept at motivating his football team at all.

IOW, he's a really good O-Coordinator and a pretty fine recruiter but the jury is definitely out on his fitness to be head coach at the University of Notre Dame.


Shadow - for one, "business as usual" is obviously very, very bad business. We are clearly not performing at a minimal standard, that is, doing the basic fundamentals of playing football. That is due to indequate, or poor, coaching. we have a need to upgrade our coaching far moreso than our talent. The horrible performance of our offense indicates poor planning, strategizing, and too many other areas to list here.

Change. I am advocating change. Like I said in my previous post, this won't be easy.

But it is very necessary.

Go Irish


I think any talk criticizing Head Coaching abilities is crazy.

If anything there are no player LEADERS. Thomas is a pathetic team leader. No one can lead on the field


Why not now?

Because these are the dregs of the two worst back to back classes Notre Dame has ever produced. They are easily the worst two classes since '95 (I'll take arguments either way about that '95 class)

Ty's first two classes weren't that bad so Weis had something to work with

You can lay the fact that we are now 0-3 mostly at Ty's awful recruiting.

However, the tone and manner of the losses and how we are just getting completely and utterly embarrased week in and week out is all on Charlie and his offensive staff.


Fair enough Tom. I didn't consider the fact all Ty's talent left last year.


This is reminiscent of Faust, Davie, Ty, and I suspect those teams of the 50's. This too shall pass, but it'll pass a lot sooner if these players don't feel abandoned by ND fan nation, and if there is a continued infusion of talent to build the base, increase the depth, and improve the competition for playing time. That infusion would seem less likely if this type of on-line commentary becomes widely read by expected recruits. What would you think were you in their positions? Charlie's got a tough road ahead. Clearly the OL is the biggest problem, and there's no quick fix for that; and its poor performance reverberates throughout each game, worsening problems for the rest of the offense and then also the defense. Special tems today were actually fair good; punting, coverage and returns. With some success, when it comes, confidence will build, and then more success will become more likely. Would anyone really want Ty or Davie to be in the HC spot? This is Notre Dame, and we don't quit. Those players out there today did not quit. Yes, they were overwhelmed by their own mistakes, and greater experience and talent and a rabid home field crowd starving for good play from their own team, heightened by the fact it was ND they were beating. None of that equals our giving up on these kids. "Drinking kool-aid" is NOT what we need, but neither is denigrating ND football. By doing so, we lessen ourselves. Pull together, ND nation. Brighter days ARE coming.


As Charlie told the team at their first meeting "You are what you are."

Well Charlie "What are we?" 0-3 with no touchdowns.

This is the most patheticly coached college football team I have ever seen.

Remember Charlie "You are what you are."

Also take you GD superbowl rings and shove them up your fat ass. Nobody with any class wears those gaudy ass things.


"Brighter days ARE coming."

Well Mike, thats for sure. Because honestly, they almost cannot POSSIBLY get worse.


A big positive is the talent we have been able to recruit. CW is outstanding in that area. Coaching it is another story. Bob Davie recruited something like 19 top-100 kids over two years, but couldn't coach them up. We are seeing too much of the same. If Ty left the cupboard bare, we had years to adjust our personnel. We obviously didn't. That problem was apparent with lasy year's team, a squad that regressed from the superb '05 team.

If I own the company, I'm not pleased with the planning/product utilization. Talk about toes to the fire.

Charlie has loads of connections. If he isn't on the phone to/answering calls from OL coaches, he deserves the problems he is, and will be, facing. Unfortunately, excepting Corwin Brown, he has shown that his coach selection abilities fall well short of his recruiting acumen.

Ask yourslef this .. why, in months time, does Nick Saban have a down and out team playing crisply, with swagger, and with meanness? Alabama "looks" like the team we are being told that we have.

I'm sick of the verbiage and monotone delivery. That's getting old. Stale.

Let's see something on the field. Now.

Go Irish


Geez, I can't believe how many of you turn out to be fair-weather fans. I can see if this was the last game of the year and we ended up 2-10. This is as much a test for true Irish fans. I for one will simply look at this as an off-season, but certainly don't think it's time to change the HC.


If anything (and I know I'm echoing some previous sentiments voiced here), some of these comments are hilarious - if you're looking for tip-top gallows humor, check out an ND board during the worst stretch of ND football in memory. I was reading aloud a good number of these to my wife after the game - just great stuff.

That being said (and the game having been played), I'm horrified by what I saw on the field but I think that Charlie should get one more year to prove himself. He's done well up to this season and I think he should get one more full season to show us what he can do with his recruits. If he can't turn it around next year, let's start looking for a replacement. (And I totally agree with earlier posters that Charlie has proven himself to be a top-notch recruiter and pretty good offensive coordinator, but his personnel selections and motivation skills are seriously lacking.)

Also, I doubt Charlie will fire anyone on his staff midyear. I think he's too loyal, proud, and optimistic to get rid of anyone until the offseason. That's not to say that he shouldn't - just that I'd be really surprised to see him get rid of someone during the season.


Well you know we're not doing well when fans of other teams stop posting on here and taunting us. No TDs aside, that's my barometer for ND football failure.


Good point, Shadow - when Michigan fans realize it's not even worth their time to post here, you know you're bad.


Bill H.

Dead on point!

Thought the same thing when I saw Alabama up against Arkansas. Why is Saban able to right the ship immediately and though he will have some loses their team looks better coached than it was in recent years.

The problem with CW is that he has done nothing to convey he knows how to right the ship or even get out of his own in putting ND in position of tactical disadvantages (i.e., stubborn refusal to kick on winning the toss, wasting fall camp on a bogus game plan for GT that diverted ND's focus on preparation for its core offense, failure to give second line players last year playing experience in anticipation of the turnover in 2007, notably QB and line).

The game is not as complicated as he sometimes makes it appear. Combined with a lack of overall toughness as a characteristic of the team it will be surprising if he can surmount the hole he has created.

Hope I am wrong but there has been no evidence this year to the contrary. These consecutive loses are comparably Willinghamesque - sad!


It's time to start sophomores and freshmen. What's the downside? One more loss...maybe?


Ummm, PZ and Bill, did not Charlie's 2005 team come out looking much, much better than the previous two years?

Rather, I think what makes Saban stand out is that he's had that kind of immediate, and sustained, success at every college where he's coached. The same is true of Spurrier and Meyer, and was true of Parseghian and Holtz.

Contrary to the anti-ND crowd, I think it is getting MORE clear that the administration was right to fire Willingham and go after Meyer. Weis has done as well as Willingham would have, and probably better, but he's still not a proven college head coach.

My question for Bill H. and others who say "go Irish" while pushing for coaching changes is: what makes you think an established college coach wants to come to ND? It's not like Petrino, Tedford, Ferentz, etc. were looking for interviews.

If Charlie was good enough to get us two 10-win seasons and two BCS bids, plus many blue-chip players, don't we owe it to him and the program to trust him? We knew there would be a down year due to the lack of talent and, simply, bodies. We ought to take our lumps and cheer loudly for the team and our coach as they learn.

Go Irish.


If you ignore the know-nothing Bill H., he'll fade away. He's 1/2 way there already.


Lou,

I think we agree on the same point that Weis, as you put it, : ...is still not a proven college coach" and there is major concern in the direction the program is taking this year. However, whether anyone chooses to "trust in him" is a personal perogative. My point is that because of the general regression in the overall team's performance there is a general concern that he and his current staff appear to be over their head (just as people had with Willingham early in year 2) this year.

Personally, I thought Willingham was a losing proposition when ND got emabarrassed by NC ST. in the Gator Bowl (year 1) which followed a USC blowout and a BC giveaway so I have no illusions of thinking ND would be better off or even the same with TW instead of CW.

Whether or not ND can line up a top line coach, if it gets to that point in the next several years, is not a reason not to hold the current coach accountable to the perpetual standard ND and its fans hold to.

Saban may be an exception but when I see teams with generally less talent like App. State that are more competitive I think coaching prowess is a natural focus for consideration.

Personally, I would love to see him succeed for the good of ND and himself but I can't ignore the problems that have befallen this program and whether they can be solved to the point where ND is legitimately competing for an NC under this regime.


The "debate" on Willingham vs. Weis is not even close...follow the recruiting...follow the recruiting. While Weis is playing Willingham's 5th year seniors, seniors and juniors...Willingham is playing (besides an excellent true freshman QB Locker) previous coach Gilbertson's 5th year seniors, seniors and juniors. In three years at ND Weis has recruited 18 Top 100 HS players (Rivals.com). In three years at UW Willingham has recruited 1 Top 100 HS player (Locker). And to add insult to injury...in three years at ND...Willingham recruited 3 Top 100 players... none in the year he was fired.


Jim,

who is making a debate for willingham vs CW? I am not. I believe I said that very clearly.

Right, recruiting is going great but if the coaching talent CW surrounds himself with isn't comparable (to develop it) then it won't make a major difference.

And are you going to really argue the point that the last 6 games haven't taken on that same taint of incompetence that TW had?

Speculation of CW's prowess does not translate into any regrets of TW being fired. Holding TW as the bar on CW's performance undermines the ND standard.


The standard of which you speak goes back to the early '90s under a vibrant Lou Holtz. Delayed gratification and patience, gentlemen. Your 5th grade nun taught you that much


I guess the questions are 1) what does the standard look like, 2) how long should it take to achieve it, and 3) how bad will it be until then?

Jim, the late 80s / early 90s is a good answer to #1. I think we all agree it cannot get much worse, in regards to #3.

What bothers me is the lack of patience. So maybe we need some nuns to start posting here, Jim.

PZ, I would actually argue that the games up until today did NOT seem like the Willingham-era losses in which the team seemed to give up. It seemed like Weis was tinkering and the team was always trying. Today, though, seemed like a total collapse. It will be interesting to see the energy level of the team versus MSU.


Lou -

Don't get caught up in that mindless aberration's (jim from cali) blabberings; If Ty did us wrong, we've had more than enough time to right them. When a SR center like Sullivan is making HS mistakes, I doubt that TW is responsible.

CW has got to look into the mirror of the state of this program. He can recruit well. Of course, while "jackass jim" from redondo beach tells you about Ty's shortcomings there, he fails to mention that Bob Davie's recruiting makes CW look like a second-rate hustler.

Jim of redolent beach - YOU deserve the output of this team. The rest of us know, want, and expect better. Much better.

Go Irish


\at least we didnt lose to App. State...//

That's true...you were BLOWN OUT by a team that lost to App State.

Whatever gets you through the night.


OK, OK. No more cheap shots. In all honesty, I actually sympathize with you guys. You guys have been dealing with this sh*t for a decade now....Us UM fans start crying after a few seasons of mediocrity. In truth, I hope ND turns it around. College football is better when ND doesnt completely suck.


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