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I have a bad feeling about this one |
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Anyone know where to watch the game online. I'm stuck with Duke/Clemson (lucky me.) |
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Bill H. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. |
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Thanks for the thread boyz. Let's go Irish, play with some passion for 6o minutes. |
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That was a terrible speech by Navy's coach. |
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was at the game there a couple years ago...thats a great place to watch a game. Not a bad seat in the house. |
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ok. drive down and score. |
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Hey, nice to see alum Condi there. She looks like she's star-struck. |
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CBS is carrying the game in NYC & the metro area. |
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Same in DC |
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ND 5-4, Nay 6-3--how many times (other than last year) has Navy come n with a better record?!? |
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I have nothing but a blank screen on the CBS channel! |
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damn. that could have gone for 6 if not for an arm tackle. |
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Wow! Can we run it like that all day please? |
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Go Aldridge |
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this announcer is a joke. just referred to Michael Tate |
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I remeber a few years back at the game in Baltimore, that a reporter asked Ty about 'Condi Rice.' |
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Micheal Tate??? Is he new? |
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Navy's pass D is 106 in the country. SET UP THE PLAY ACTIOn!!! |
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I don't want to hear Ram Vela's name all day - except in the inevitable replay from last year. |
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Oh, OK Coach Rockne, I mean Coach Nate. |
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I wish I was that romantic. |
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"that announcer" is Steve Beuerlein. |
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Wow, starting to be a dick early today, aren't we Jim? What the hell was that for? |
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Was Ram one of the Vanilla Ice Bro's? |
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The announcer who referred to Michael Tate is Steve Buerlein. An ND Alum and QB. WTF? |
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Can't we all just get along? |
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wow. I thought steve would at least be familiar with who the players are |
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Come on Nate! |
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hard to sustain drive just running up the middle |
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ah. and...here...we...go |
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f}}}}}}}}}}} |
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Game plan - NO INTERCEPTIONS TODAY |
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That was thrown to whom? |
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Yeah Steve, how dare you make a mis-take!!!!! |
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At 2 in the morning, I've got little sense of humor, Jim. Stop being a tool and watch the game. |
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does Jimmy read coverages? Can he? |
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Poor throw by Clausen |
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Where's VOICE!!!!!! |
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clausen absolutely stinks. can crist play next year |
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Navy players look great in their dress blues. |
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did cw guarantee no pics?... |
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Nice D |
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Nate wher you at? |
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Good Job defense |
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Here I is. |
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What's displayed in the photo? |
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Game ON!! |
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really i am over clausen. his dad and brothers turned on the hype machine and charlie bought it hook line and sinker. there are 50 better QBs out there this weekend. it inability to run makes him useless |
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Hiya, Voice. |
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If we own them by 50 pounds on the line I say we don't throw another pass all day. |
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Notre Dame wins today 20-17. |
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OC joining us from Cali. |
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Hey OC! We ARE both masochists! |
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Yes, Jim, Japan. Same place I've been all season, all last year, and the last 5 years. |
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No more passes. |
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Allen looks like he's lining up in another county. |
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Can someone give details on the pick? Hard to follow on gamecast on slow-ass Australian internet... |
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Unless they're from Sharpley. |
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lol Nate, I was thinking the same thing. |
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There's no good reason ND doesnt rush for 250+ in this game. |
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run the ball all day. dont let clausen throw is again |
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Michael-- |
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we can't run ALL the time...odds are we get stopped once during the drive |
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No, just better throws, and throws that aren't forced into coverage. Eventually, Navy will completely sell out to stop the run. Then you throw. |
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Ok Nate; You tell me how great your memory is when you're 67. |
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his arm was cocked and throwing! |
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wow. |
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Clausen is not looking good. |
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Blind side protection, as always, sux. |
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as i said , dont let him throw the ball. he cannot complete a pass with out screwing us up |
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Clausen hit and fumbles. Never saw it coming. |
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Turkovich, you ass-clown! |
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that was a fumble |
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thats half on the line and half on jimmy. he has to feel that pressure. |
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Who was Ty's walk-on QB? I say we check to see if he has any eligibility left. |
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Here's the Question? |
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I think the difference is drinkability. |
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'D' is going to have to win this game for us. |
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It's only 9:30 out west here, I can I start drinking? |
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Well, so much for this game settling the natives. Even if we win, there's going to be a lot of grumbling. |
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No, it's mostly on the line. Our line should handle Navy. |
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Well, this could get ugly real fast |
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Jim, blah blah 67, agent orange, whatever. I don't care about your memory, just the fact that you choose to be an ass. I'm in Kyushu, not that I expect you to know where that is, And yes, I'm in the service--US Army, work as a liaison to the JGSDF. But more importantly, our QB is sucking and I'm pissed. |
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VP; Somewhere it's noon-time in Amerika, drink up lad! |
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It's like Claussen 08' has been taken over by the Claussen 07' |
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ND has to stop Navy on this drive. |
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At least Meat-chicken is losing |
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VicPaul, |
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Interesting question from jimmasterson. |
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my god, what has happened to my ND? this navy team should ger pounded by 30 |
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Well, D looks good so far. |
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celebration flag |
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nice play. but stupid freaking penalty |
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Right, Jim, |
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TD!! |
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Blocked kick, TD Irish. Toryan Smith. |
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blocked punt that is what im talking about |
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TD!!!! 15 yd penalty |
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we should win by 50, fire CW if he cant do that |
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No class on Smith's part. |
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Can we make Tenuta the HC and Charlie the OC? |
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I love it - Anello made the block. |
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like the emotion, but he has to know better than to make that dive into the endzone |
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Toryan Smith turns a touchdown into a penalty with showboating. That peeves me. Stay classy smith. |
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Is Anello the messiah? |
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Nate; Last Five Years? |
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These celebration penalties are silly. Was what he did so offensive? Jesus, zebras, swallow the whistle! |
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I don't care about the celebration penalty - these guys (D) brought their game today - BFD. GO IRISH! |
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ok. will you two take a time out so the rest of us can talk about the game? |
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True that! That called that penalty way too fast. |
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It's the Vodka's fault. |
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okay, question: in the washington-byu game this year, when the QB was penalized for excessive celebration, the penalty was marked off on the extra point. This time, the penalty was marked off on the kickoff. Why the difference? |
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didn't say that gwzimm - or mean it...:)...just meant to point out that, uh, Charlie the savior and Offensive Guru hasn't been doing too well against truly, outstandingly mediocre competition - like today and the last two weeks before... |
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Lame dive into the endzone, son. |
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other team can choose to take it on the EP or the kickoff |
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Never understood why you can't celebrate in college but in the Pros you can get away with basically anything. |
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Point taken, Jim |
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Jim-- |
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Lets talk about the present today, not CW's past or future. |
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It's Navy. You don't do dumbshit like that against anyone, much less Navy. |
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Thatwas so crazy!! I was just about to send a comment when BLOCK!! The D is Nasty!!! At what point next year do u make the switch To the new #10 |
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ok, so in two games, clausen has had 0 touchdowns, 5 interceptions, and 1 fumble. while i do think he is the best qb on the team, what coach in his right mind would not pull him for at least a series? |
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Sorry Voice, I'm tired of zombies. |
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Lets go D |
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Let Montana's kid play a series! |
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Okay. Point taken. |
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Butterfingers |
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2nd dropped pass |
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Damn Bruton you had that. good coverage |
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Bruton's gotta catch that. |
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What would you achieve by pulling him for a series? If the backup sucks, you're worse off. If the backup does well, you've got a new starter who hasn't proved himself yet. Regardless, I think that messes with Clausen's mind too much. Besides, if we had a greater player available, I think we'd be using him. There's probably a reason the backup hasn't been played. |
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I know, but maybe before the half, I'd just like to see him get into a game |
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How did Bruton not pick that? |
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wow. thats just lack of discipline. |
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dumb dumb dumb |
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Darn! 4-1 and we blew it |
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cw stuck with the kicker...maybe he has a hard time making difficult player decisions...something he never had to do with Pats |
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"Messing with Clausen's head?" the guy should think he has competition. |
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Nate, how is Japan treating you? I remember living in South Korea back in 2005 and enjoying the great season with you on the BGS blog. |
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Charlie guaranteed this week they would not jump offside |
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Good read, Rashon |
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Too much speculation about CW! Focus on the game. Penalty Navy, yea baby. |
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I thought we were going to get another celebration call |
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the svc. academiues with their chop blocks. Should be punishable by water boarding. |
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Can't complain, me. Not about Japan, anyways. I can complain about the Irish, though... |
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OK, if Charlie wants that promise to mean anything, he HAS to yank that player for a series - he's still in there. |
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I really beleive our D is making nice strides. The offense? Not so much. |
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If the O dont score a TD this drive !!! Then Clausen SUCKS!!! |
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Well if he is a bust atleast we have Crist for next year. |
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I like our defense |
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Our D rocks. |
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problem is team takes 2 steps forward and 2 steps back...d has played well before (Purdue) and poorly (NC) |
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Nobody cares what happens in the Pig 10 |
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navy is a great gig for a guy who most likely is not goin pro if you can survive your first year. good place to go to school, chick dig it, get service experience but not gonna get your ass shot at in iraq, and you get a guaranted job out of school, which most D1 athletes dot have when the school is done with them. |
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Now the O needs to give the D a breather. And maybe score! |
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Can we please relax about Clausen for the time being? Alright, let's let last week just die and never be mentioned again. The interception was stupid, but the fumble was Turko's fault for getting his cup juked off him by the defender! Be patient! |
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our D looks good against a respectable,mid-level program that honorably over-achieves year in and year out. USC, on the other hand, with a mediocre offense for them this year....could put up 50....and uh, isn't field position part of the game? and where are we again? |
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yup |
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Aldridge musta had a good week in practice. I say, Ride that mule! |
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I would like to see Crist for a series just to let clausen know he can be replaced....he seems like he has regressed back to last year...got those powlus happy feet |
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No, Tony--why burn a year of Crist's eligibility just for that? Sharpley or Montana, ok. |
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They wont screw up Crist's redshirt year |
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i can't drop the clausen issue. he has regressed. poor decisions for passes and serious accuracy issues when throwing further than 10 yards downfield. |
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Thats why Id like to see Montana |
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Denver- the fumble by Claussen is indicative of a lack of field vision...he did that all the time last year...great qbs sense their backside |
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Is it bad that I see 3rd and 1 and think "crap, they have us right where they want us?" |
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As usual, we have the physical advantage. Navy seems to be a bit mistake-prone, and isn't quite as precise at running the option as in the past. If we keep our mistakes to a minimum, we win. The more we screw up, the better chance Navy has. |
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Nothing wrong with Clausen that a running game and decent blocking won't cure. |
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you gotta a point about wasting a year, still put someone in or just keep it on the ground....wear those navy guys out like lou use to do |
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Do not even THINK about putting Crist in! Sheesh! |
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Nate Montana? Really?? Come on. |
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and just because a backup quarterback is not as talented, doesn't mean he will screw up. backups come in all the time and manage the game well. clausen needs a breather. he needs to sit back and get his blood pressure down for a little while. |
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I grade ND's offense a D+ vs. Navy for the first qtr. |
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Eire, Even great QB's shouldn't HAVE to sense their backside that quickly! Just chalk that one up to poor blocking. He's obviously not superman, I'm sure he couldn't hear the guy coming, and he came at him WAY too quickly! |
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Hey, why not? Hid old man was once 7th string. |
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but we have a running game today. it's every time the qb drops back to throw that i cringe. |
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also ND tradition demands a great QB not just a capable one...Claussen seems to lack whatever it takes to be great |
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Clausen has to make that step foward to becoming a Leader. Note the LEADER quinn became from 04-05. Jimmy must make that step . Note the LEADER quinn became fro 04-05. Jimmy must make that step then the team as a whole will step with him. |
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It seems like every 3rd down ND has it's critical, like for the season. |
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Ill bet charlie is really mad about clausens performance. Im sure he thought his qb would be up to it today after last week |
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just put sharpley in once. |
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are people actually calling for Jimmy to be benched? Meth is not a good habit to have if so. |
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Is it just me, or is the guy with the Navy hat and coat spying on CW calling in the play? Navygate?? |
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Is it just me, or are these commercial breaks longer than even NBC's? |
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that worked well |
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words fail me. thats just embarrassing. |
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Good play calling |
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ooops mistake on the chipster |
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What the hell was that? |
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Did anyone think that play was going anywhere but right where it went? Anyone? Wow. |
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Is Hayward calling plays from afar? |
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The Wildcat set didn't bother me. The poor line play did. |
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craig, i take offense to that. tell me what clausen has done in the past two games. |
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OK, how stupid was that direct snap? You can't "catch em off guard" when you take forever to run the play. |
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Wow! First punt since 2004! Jeez. |
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Now do we all remember why CW stopped calling plays in the first place? |
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10th game of year is no time to go wildcat. charlie is panicing |
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I've always wondered why that "wildcat" or whatever works for teams. Now I wonder why it works for teams other than US? |
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quinn didn't fumble the ball and I don't believe he ever threw 4 pics in a game...even in the lean years. |
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Please, gentlemen....the umbrella of Papal infallibility is supposed toextend to the ND offensive play caller...we all just fail to see the Xs and Os brilliance of that wildcat call...just because it didn't work. |
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The REF held the play up way too long for the play to work. |
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quinn did have 4 picks against purdue one year |
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I've been ok with our defense this year. The majority of their poor play has been in the second half after our offense shut down, which is what an ok defense does. The last few weeks they have even looked good ( admittedly against offenses that haven't looked good ) - well except for Lambert. It feels like I've been watching receivers blow by him for 10 years. |
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Here's a twist - DC stations calling a tornado watch for the DC - Maryland area. Not sure what's blowing this way (looks good so far) but this game could get interesting in the second half. |
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Meat Chicken sucks!! |
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Holy Crap we called the wildcat play and it didn't work. Cancel the football season forever. Jeez people get a grip |
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I cant believe charlie is in panic mode already....but then again look at the offense so far...its offensive alright |
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JimK, +1 |
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Jimmy has had ONE bad play today people...come talk to me in the 3rd qtr and you will see why it is way off to be calling for him to be benched |
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jimmy is not any good. his fathers money and brothers rep got him the ranking and CW, who really does not know football, got sucked in and bought it. kid flat out cant play |
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In the history of the Wildcat, has a team ever thrown the ball to the qb split out wide? |
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Swarbrick is smooth. |
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Charlie looks like he's in PAIN. |
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Our D is really playing great today. |
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Great tackle. |
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Alum son |
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craig, you are right. jimmy has had one bad play. he has also had no good plays today. |
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I hate Swarbrick's answer (CW's staying) but I love his firmness and demeanor...a real AD... |
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I echo the comment about our D, but our poor Tate, |
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The defense is really showing up today.. the defense is improving alot |
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Tate got creamed - don't we have someone else to field those? |
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Fair catch, Golden--look into it. |
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clausen is 2 for 3 for 10 yards and an int. we are clearly not leaning on a qb today, which is why i think a series with sharpley would hurt no one. |
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on the other hand...KW was behind Ty for graduation rate and so on...and McGovern supported Eagleton 1000% (for you mature folks out there)... |
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I fear an injury to GT if he doesn't start calling FC on those high hangers. |
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Charlie is in pain. When they finally do his knee surgery, they will call in a trauma specialist. |
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Let's put JC as the punt returner. |
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well of course he has no good plays today cause he has not been asked to do anything yet. |
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You have to give Navy credit they have great fundamentals. |
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Joe Theisman ran back punts when he was 2nd string QB |
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Golden's like Zibby - HATES to call fair catch. |
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There must be some mentality amongst the special teams coaches that if you fair-catch the ball, you're a woman! Zibby did it for years, luckily not many fumbles or other trouble, but this is very risky to continue on GT's part! |
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Long time since we've seen a screen |
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That should of been a 1st down |
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blocking was horrendous on that screen. Should have gotten a lot more. |
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JimK |
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What's the over/under on additional Vico's Charlie pops at halftime? I wonder if he keeps them in a Jimmy Clausen Pez dispenser... |
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craig, let's both agree that we both WANT jimmy clausen to throw for 450 yards and 6 touchdowns today. we agree on that. i just hope that he can be successful today. GO IRISH!! |
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HOOSIERS SCORE!!!! |
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Eire, I agree, but my main point is that everyone's been singing Clausen's praises all season long about how much he's improved, and now he has an aneurysm against BC, and a bad start against Navy, and all of a sudden he is the worst QB in the nation! Nothing against you, just the general mentality in the media! |
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Embarrassing |
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Hughes is slow, and should not ge getting pitches wide |
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Navy's just faster than we are. Send Hughes up the middle |
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ahhh... the ol ND is back |
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that's why we can't run all day...they eventually key on the runners |
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I'm tired of Hughes this year. |
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that should have been allen |
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amazing |
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not throwing on a 3rd and 15 is not showing much confidence in the passing game. |
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Bruton making an Aussie-rules move on that kick |
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Zero offense against a small under weight d...amazing |
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2 weeks in a row the D has shown up and the O is nowhere to be seen. |
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Does anyone else here think anyone on Navy can cover Mike Floyd? Is Clausen that down that he can't just throw it up for Floyd to get? |
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USC WILL KILL US IF WILL PLAY LIKE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Let's not talk about USC...we have to get past Navy first |
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Nate I have been sitting here wondering the same thing. When you have superior players/athletes on the outside, get them the ball. |
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swarbrick said we will review at the end of the tear...not he will absolutely be back. although he will, swarbrick left it open |
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"everyone's been singing Clausen's praises all season long about how much he's improved, and now he has an aneurysm against BC, and a bad start against Navy, and all of a sudden he is the worst QB in the nation!" |
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Chip, I love your optimism. USC will kill us if we play 100% better than this... |
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U$C is going to kill us no matter how well we play. |
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Denver--- |
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USC will kill us if we show up to LA. |
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Charlie seems determined to pound in one TD before we put it up. Nice plan - unless it takes five series to do it. |
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D is saving CW right now. |
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i don't hate jimmy. i want what is best for him and the team. and i think that a breather is what is best for him in this game. i still think he will be better than brady quinn, but he is seriously in a funk and playing it out doesn't seem to be working. |
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VicPaul - |
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I think they see Floyd as a dead-bang certain six. But, in theory, we should have other ways to score. We may have to go to Floyd very soon... |
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"Alumni are used to seeing wins." Would that it were so. |
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maybe i'm just cranky because i don't want to drink before noon. it's just past 11 am here in colorado. |
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BAd games at UNC 2nd half, PITT , BC for #7 |
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If we keep making them throw, I see a pick 6 coming our way. |
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[Elderly] alumni are used to seeing wins. |
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I'm trying to focus on how nice it is to see us stopping the run and ignoring the rest. |
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3 flags against ND |
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what a hilariously bad penalty, almost as laughable as Kuntz' off side |
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Voice is correct...73' seems like yeaterday |
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Me, Same time zone here, and I'm drinking. It's OK, I'll support you. Just think, if we were tailgating, we'd be buzzing by 9AM! |
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Dline playing great so far--fullback is Navy's bread and butter, and can't get anything. |
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We have 6:51 to play |
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What is the spread on this game? |
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Me, I got ya beat. First beer at 9:54. |
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I hear ya Hoya, I pledge to not go negative today....you may not be hearing much from me... |
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thanks for the support, denver. i'm cracking one open! i should be more agreeable from this point forward. |
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Concentrating on this game is a fine idea...but it raises the larger issues, illustrated by the recent graphic, of the utter mediocrity we've been stuck in for more than a decade now...rather more, I'd say.... |
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Sterling |
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Maker's and water with a twist. |
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I feel better about multiple block in the back penalties when they negate huge returns. When they negate a 4 yd return it feels like the penalties weren't worth it. |
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Vodka, just Vodka. |
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thanx. Well, we are ahead of the spread. |
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3 points ND favored |
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3? my guy was 4.5 |
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What the hell is Hughes doing on the field? |
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What happened to aldridge? |
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A shoestring tackle? Don't we always go down on a shoestring? |
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wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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OneHip, It's a challenge. I'm sitting in the lotus position and chanting, "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change" |
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?????????????????????????????? |
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WHAT THE FUCK??????? |
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What???? QB keeper???????? |
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Just awful |
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WHAT??? |
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QB keeper? WTF. Tim Tebow maybe. Not Jimmy. |
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We'll get the hold on 2nd place for all time wins as soon as we start winning 10 games a season for a decade like Texas has. |
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that was ridiculous |
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Huh? |
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i used to be so confident in our passing game. maybe it is the receivers, maybe it is the qb. jimmy has time, but is only dropping off to his rbs. |
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Do we really have that little faith in Jimmy, that 4 yards is out of reach? |
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D has to stop this drive |
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I guess cw saw jc running stats and said "They'll never expect it" |
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going for more Vodka. can feel the pain increasing. |
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Sorry for jinxing the run defense with my earlier post. |
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Time for a turnover |
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Here we go...if you haven't started drinking, you better start now if you want any chance of numbing the pain. |
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If you rush 4 people and have everyone else covering rec'vrs you'll beat ND |
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Consider the running game rolling. |
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Can't wait for the USC game! |
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Yikes. That drive came out of nowhere. |
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ouch |
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I feel my Thai food from last night coming back up. |
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Well our fucking awful offense sure isn't going to help our defense take any breaths. |
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That looked just like Sparty in OT in 2005. Same sick feeling in my stomach too. |
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Can't watch the game here in Raleigh, NC, since local coverage is focused on a tornado.......can't escape the irony of the Irish being pushed aside for a real natural disaster. |
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forget vodka...need mind-altering substance...need alternate reality |
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Nate - Ryan Grant was the ultimate shoestring tacklee. So many times he looked to be clean coming through the line only to have someone grab his trailing leg and bring him down for 2. |
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the good news is there's still plenty of time for a couple more Hughes runs and 3 and out... |
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remember at the beginning of the season, when all we were worried about was a bad kicker? those were the good old days. |
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Derek...you're right re: MSU |
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Hey Paul, I like Thai food a lot - but not that much.. |
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remember when everybody was begging charlie just to run hughes? huh |
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Will ND WHEN THIS GAME? anybody? |
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Terrible play by whoever had contain. Was it Bruton? He was a spectator. |
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WILL ND WIN THIS GAME. sorry I'm fuming. |
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i'm gonna say that if we have no passing game, we lose. |
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@ Sterling: eery resemblance huh - completely untouched. |
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Obediah, I remember all too well. |
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Swarbick can talk all he wants about progress, but if you can't beat UNC, Pitt, BC and outclass Navy, you will get murdered against USC, and that ain't progress. This team sucks. |
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obediah is 100% right about Ryan Grant. As good as he is now I completely attribute to strength training which is something ND is sorely lacking in over the past 7 years or so. |
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Even more painful in slo-mo! |
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I still think cw is good on x and o's...he just can't prepare the team...remember Georgia Tech last year...good game plan if the line could block |
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Friend at game sent me text that Floyd was taken off sideline on cart. Anyone know why? |
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No, it wasn't Bruton. He got levelled on the play. |
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slo-mo just prolongs the pain. |
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Yeah, great on X's and O's. Like on a QB sneak with 4 to go |
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The options still gives me goosebumps, even when we're on the wrong end of it. |
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How has CBS not noticed/said anything about that? |
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At least our special teams look great now that CW paid special attention to them this year. |
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That's the play we should be running all day. |
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2-minute O; must get a TD |
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charlie doesn't understand college kids. he shelters them and babies them much more than he inspires and motivates them. he is always worried about their fragile psyche. |
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OMG |
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Pick #2 |
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doesnt look like floyd is in there |
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I'm done with Jimmy. Fucking bench him. |
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seriously, people???? what have i been saying?? |
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yikes. |
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Now, about Nate Montana. . . . . |
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Crazy. |
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clausen is done! Put Sharpley in! |
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Not his fault my ass, that was a high fly ball to center |
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wow. we really are going to lose this game. |
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You happy that you're right, me? |
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"Listen all yall it's a sabotage" |
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He was hit when he threw it, not his fault. |
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wow the D is saving their asses. thank God. |
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Lord, thank you for inspiring me to buy a case of Lite last night! I will need the entirety of that blessed suitcase! |
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Fumblerooski! |
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did he get hit as or before he threw? Looked like the ball was out before he got hit. Bench him. |
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Hot dog, we're back on offense. |
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no, i am not happy, AS. i wanted this game to be settled in the first quarter. i wanted clausen to have a record day. i wanted to be up by 17 touchdowns after the bc game. i want to win. |
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That ball would have been picked off even if he wasn't hit as he threw it. Why do we continue to throw the ball to an area that has two receivers and three DB's? |
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Maybe we could secretly grab Joe Flacco and stick him in a #7... |
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stick with short passes...even though jc telegraphs, the defense has no time to key |
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Jimmy is so visibly gunshy it is comical, for good reason I guess... |
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whether we win this game or not, any one want to guess what the line on the USC game will be? |
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can Brandon Walker throw the ball? |
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I'd give my left nut for an offensive line |
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21 on USC easy |
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Petey Poodle will really try and embarrass CW |
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Derek your being to nice to ND. |
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I can already feel the Draw being called... |
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So our passing gameplan was obviously "Mike Floyd". Now that he's not in, all we can do is dump it to Allen? Why no Tate? Navy's defense is 106th in pass d. And we can't pass against them. |
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I say 31 on the USC game....and I'd still take Troy. |
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I think it will be 25 points, and I am leaning towards taking the poodle |
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Smart |
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If we can score here, I'll upgrade our offense from fucking awful to just awful. |
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I was going to type "From how far out will this fg be missed?" but I am trying to remain positive. |
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Why in the furthest reaches of Hell does CW's kid still have a headset on the sidelines? It's like they made a 4+ year Make-a-Wish promise to him, and there is absolutely NO reason for him to be there or have a headset. Aside from being CW's son, that is. |
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Nicely done by Allen. |
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oh shit. that is not good. |
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Awww shit. As bad as he sucks, that's the wrong way to prove you have balls. |
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Stupid, stupid, stupid moves... |
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Well I guess you all will get your wish. |
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If it's 25 points, bet the farm on USC. I'm thinking they'll win 63-3. |
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i don't want clausen to be injured. not that at all. |
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Nate Montana, you're up. |
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concussion for sure |
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I hate to see him leave for that reason |
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That was a frustration dive. |
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AS - I agree |
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vicpaul, nobody wanted him to leave that way. that is not good for our team. |
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We're going after Montana's son at Oaks Christian, right? |
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If you just joining us here in Baltimore, Notre Dame has done everything possible to keep Navy in the game and aside from a blocked punt seems to be completely incapable of scoring points. |
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NDdallas, God I hope so. |
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Tough kid. |
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FG or TD? What do you go for? |
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Having a position coach like Powlus, who has personal experience with injury, wouldn't you think the #1 thing he would tell JC is you DON'T DIVE HEAD FIRST!!!! As much as I'm sticking up for JC, that was ridiculously stupid! |
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nice d play on that throw |
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Not a good throw |
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Golden should have brought that down. |
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Tate should have had it. Floyd almost certainly would have hung on. |
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was that jc's longest run? |
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On replay, I agree. Tate let it slip through his hands |
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Question: why do teams throw the fade/lob/alley-oop in the end zone, yet you rarely/never see a team going for a first down do it? |
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but not a bad throw compared to what he had done in the last few games. there was single coverage, and it wasn't directly into the opposing team's hands. |
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Bulls&^t. |
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I'm almost glad I can't watch this....... |
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I don't know if Floyd would have caught it. It's on those plays that Floyd drops it or lets it slip out, and then we say Tate would have caught it. |
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can't believe no word on Floyd |
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Tate had a drop in the UW game, then muffed that punt catch last week, now this one. A new awareness of his limitations maybe.. |
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It's cool, Brandon. Just pretend you're in OT. |
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This is a bit petty... |
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Tate should of caught that and Brandon should make this and...he did. |
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at least Walker seems to be improving game-to-game, unlike 90% of the team. |
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golden tate on the navy loss: we had them on the ropes with a 3 point lead at the half, and we let up on the gas. |
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Schultz, that's progress. |
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d and special teams rule |
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Did I miss something? What happened to Floyd? |
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Mike81, don't give that advice to anyone on the offense. Tell them they're playing Purdue. |
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Brandon Walker--proof of great coaching.... |
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I still say ND will win this thing, 20-17. |
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Apparently Floyd is hurt. Twisted his knee on the first series. |
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Weis does not have this team ready (once again) this week, this year ( once again) against a horrible Navy. |
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charlie, it is ok to win by more than 2 touchdowns. that is not impolite. |
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Is anyone surprised about Floyd? If it wasn't a dramatic enough injury to be shown on TV, surely our medical and coaching staffs won't own up to any details about a potential injury to our best young receiver in school history! |
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crap...this is crap |
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I want to see results, not great recruiting classes, because as of now i don't think much of those rankings. |
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ok, i'm gonna take a breather. i think i saw some solace in the bottom of my beer bottle. |
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This is the most pathetic broadcast ever, they have not even mentioned Floyd being out. |
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we've gone from being a borderline top 25 team to what...top 50? top 75? |
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This ain't women's soccer. Good line |
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Me, Was it a quantum of solace? Brrummm...ching! |
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Halftime entertainment, courtesy of Wikipedia: |
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Shame on you, CBS, for channeling Chris Berman and his "WHOOP!"s. |
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Harvard was the premier team until the 1930s (I think--maybe 1920s)...I think we're witnessing a Harvardization |
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as I have observed here in recent weeks , Planet... |
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NDdallas, what he meant to say was "Boom goes the dynamine." Slip of the tongue, is all. |
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Title IX fans must swoon when they hear the ND A.D. speak of football and women's soccer as if they are of equal relevance. Wait. OMG. Are they now considered to be equally important? Somebody kill me. |
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Still before noon here, and I'm 4 drinks into my potential tirade! I know we're up, but I have a bad feeling about this! |
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this all kind of makes me wish I had enjoyed the Holtz years more. Because days like them are a long long way off. |
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and BTW, for once I appreciate the anti-ND comments from Brando and the CBS/network team "this isn't women's soccer" indeed...something...many things ...are seriously wrong with football under the Dome. |
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First, we fire the new A.D. |
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problems are systemic...college football is a big business now and nd priests (God bless them) don't have the instincts |
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That's it - we left all our Fight out there "fighting for justice." |
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Texas is leading Kansas 7-0 with 6:30 left in the first half. They're facing a 4th and 6, going for it (on FOX). They're 2 for 6 on 3rd down conversions. |
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Our only TD is a blocked punt???? I just don't get it. No wonder all my friends laugh at me. |
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also we need to hire a college coach with proven leadership skills at that level...no more Tys Bobs and Charlies |
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Voice, I hope you're joking (he said prefacing potential further comments)! Swarbrick, with his experience in both Olympics and the NCAA, is being very diplomatic and professional in these difficult times for us! |
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Who wears jeans playing football in the mud? |
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If we are indeed looking at a new coach realistically, we need to make sure they can recruit. This is still better than Ty's worst years, we at least have hope, regardless of how farfetched it may be. |
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Tony Spilotro - "At least our special teams look great now that CW paid special attention to them this year." |
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AS |
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Great sentiment, Planet, but who with proven experience would want to come to ND? It ain't the coveted job it used to be. |
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I mean seriously, I play football with the boys all the time. Not once has anyone shown up in jeans. |
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Is the game online somewhere? What site? |
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VicPaul, channelsufing.net has it. |
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Hello Ram. Now good bye Ram. |
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Nate we have to spend serious money (like with Charlie) and turn the program over to a new coach... |
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God, we suck. I think USC will duplicate the 38-0 drubbing they gave us before. ND football should drop to 1-AA as long as we don't have to play App. State. |
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obediah, I'm not completely sure, but I believe he was using sarcasm about our special teams! Sure, our coverage is usually great, but our punting sucks, our place-kicking is improving definitely, but our returns are abysmal! |
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Planet- |
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There are 113 visitors on line. It costs $20 million to buy CW out. That's about $176K apiece. Who's with me? |
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Hey, DI. yes I was joking. Swarbrick was a good hire and I have no doubt he's the right man for the job. I respect that he came on TV to quell rumors and give CW a vote of confidence. As angry as I am, I want Charlie to have a crack at '09, and one year from now we'll know what to do. But, I reserve the option to change my mind, particularly if we lose today, to the 'Cuse, and SoCal. |
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When Jack Swarbrick said he has been attending the football practices, did he expect us to think that we believe he knows how to evaluate our football team? |
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gwzimm- |
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114 on line, so the avg. cost went down by a little. |
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I'll give Charlie '09. |
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Thanks Nate. |
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I'm with VicPaul. He's definitely in the danger zone, but these failures are too late in the season to use the season to justify firing him. |
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Money alone isn't going to do it. Who wants to leave their Texas Tech, USF, UCONN, etc., where they are looked upon as great because they've taken bad to mediocre programs and made them good, and come to ND where if they don't win an NC in the first 3 years they're a failure? A guy like Mike Leach could post 9-3 seasons forever at TT, always be 2nd fiddle to UT (with the occaisional win), and go down as a legend there. |
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obediah- |
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Finally, official mention of Floyd. What an amateur broadcast. |
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So close. |
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Anello just got it taken away from him. |
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I thought the QB in the game WAS the backup. Is Kaipo Hamaadaea;lgduqa8e4uyrhgadguagh gone or something? |
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just took a long shower and switched from beer to soju... ready for the second half!!! |
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Vile stuff, Me. Vile stuff. |
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Well, that explains it. |
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Nate, that was hilarious! |
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me, you sound like my kindof guy. We should watch a game together one day. |
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i'm sure i deserve it, nate. |
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was i the only one screaming for tate to run a little faster? |
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I love Tate looking at the five Navy players laying on the ground at the end of that return |
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Way to go Golden. Let's get something going!! |
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It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas, in Ann Arbor... |
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Korean soju is like drinking formaldehyde. You should try Japanese shochu. Same stuff, but the difference is like drinking a nice Laphroag or something as opposed to Old Crow. |
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me, on an earlier play, I thought he looked a step slower as well. But that run should get the troops going...please? |
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Was there an update on Floyd or just a mention??? |
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Onehip, your either the king of channel surfing or you have 5 TV's set up. |
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I think Tate was looking for blocking. |
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nd looks fired up...caveat-I hope I'm proven wrong in everything |
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Forget it, just saw it |
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i relate soju to drinking rubbing alcohol, with a 30% less chance of going blind. |
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VicPaul, ndmom4ever is my spotter. |
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Who had a high hopes for Michigan? Everyone in AA knew they would be terrible. |
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My wife is calling the plays - I'll tell her to do better! |
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TOUCHDOWN!!! |
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Me, good analogy. Smells like it too. |
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Great Drive. |
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GREAT GREAT DRIVE |
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best drive of the season...best 2nd half opening in 3 years |
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Best 2nd half drive of season? |
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A mistake-free drive. That's all you need. |
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Sssswwwweeeeeeeet! |
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Nice run AA! Nice playcall Charlie Jr. |
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yes but against NAVY. |
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Alum, i think the best in that it relied so much on the run. |
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JimK...no dose of reality please |
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how low have we fallen that we exult about a good drive against a program we used to routinely dominate to the tune of 35-0 at half? |
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take that back, it was a good balance. |
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Man we really needed that drive. Clausen's final line could read 12/15 - 96 yrds - 0 TD - 2 INT if we can keep running the ball like that. |
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Yes, JimK, but it wasn't happening AGAINST NAVY in the 1st half. |
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jimk, you are depressing me. i need to enjoy the rest of my saturday. |
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I honestly could care less about "establishing the run", "pounding it down people's throats", etc. just for running's sake. If we passed for 500 yards a game and 6 td's with 20 yards rushing, I would be fine. But it's nice to see a running back find a hole and hit it for once. |
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Planet Eire, |
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Hope that inspires the defense - even more. |
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JimK-- |
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We need it to happen against Navy because that's who we are playing today. |
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That was more celebrating by Brown than after the blocked punt TD. Why no penalty, he asked sarcastically. |
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Very good coverage by Sergio Brown |
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Why does the channelsurfing.net feed only seem to hickup during a play? The commercials come through fine.. |
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excellent snuff. |
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3 & out |
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d owns Navy today (except that one drive) |
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indeed PlanetEire and company...I will officially resign from reality for the duration today... |
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You see me just crush that guy on Mondo's TD run?! |
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one day, tate is gonna run one back for a touchdown, and i'm going to be cheering. |
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ok---short passing and misdirection on the ground and we could pull this off |
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That's the spirit, Jim! |
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This bodes well for a dominating performance by us vs. Traditional Power Syracuse. |
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AH, Bemenderfer. He's the only O lineman who wants it... |
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The old playcalling CW would go up top on first down here. WE'll see..... |
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I hate CSI Miami (smug actor) |
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time for a qb sneak...or wildcat play |
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not old cw |
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The old CW playcaller had Smardj and MoSto. |
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Don't forget: When we go up against the 'cuse this year, we're going up against The Movie, too. |
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A screen that worked???? |
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I think we only trust jimmy to throw screens now |
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I think AA wants it today. |
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well, if you do a wildcat play, you should probably wait for 23 seconds for the snap before you run it. maybe even have a wr explain the play to the defense across the line. |
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Gollum went 6-5 as the coach of Navy in 1982... |
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That's what I'm talking about. HUGHES! |
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Nice run, Hughes - about time! |
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i can't stop laughing, nate. |
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It's 4:19 AM...I'm tired drunk. The only drunk I get anymore. |
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Nate was thinking the same thing but couldn't remember his name. |
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onehipdad - We have our own movie! |
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Need some new Berkwood commercials. |
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we should waste all our time outs and then run wildcat on 3 and inches...and then on 4th we should rope that tornado and then have a presser and say we have improved our tornado roping skills |
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OC mj, that's the last you'll see of Hughes today, and maybe in '08. Charlie forgets about him for weeks at a time immediately after he has a nice run. See ya Robert. |
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Wow. We spend millions of dollars in research and development of technology to make a phone that can tell us what that song stuck in are head is? Is that really worth dropping cash on? Wow. |
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Actually we have 3 - :"KR: All American" "Rudy" (who'd have thunk our whole PROGRAM would be Rudy-fied???) |
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NOW he'll take him out! |
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who's calling the plays? |
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Where's this been all year? |
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I think Maura Weis is calling the plays. |
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we weren't playing NAVY...50 lb per man advantage...think we should be able to run? |
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We couldn't run against SD State...what gives |
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If Hughes scores, he'll be an exchange student in Borneo by next week. |
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Somebody told the team we were playing a Brock Spack defense. |
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you can tell that we are playing a terrible pass defense. |
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Hughes, it's been nice knowin' ya. |
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Wow, two rushing TD's. I think we're wearing them down, now. |
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I have found the last two possessions to be quite enjoyable. More so even than the prospect of 0% APR from Toyota. Or hadnt you heard? |
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Man, if those kids could play like all you fans drink, ND would be A Force again. |
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I haven't seen two consecutive drives (on the ground) since pre-Ty...Is Navy trying to lull us into overconfidence? |
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i don't know alum, saved by zero? |
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Way to Robert!! |
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Dang, no John Goldfarb at NetFlix... |
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3 headed monster. |
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i'm switching to champagne. then back on the kool-aid. GO IRISH!!! |
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No politics or theology discussions during the game, Straight Edge |
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Amen DJ. |
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New concept: Halftime adjustments?? |
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+1, VicPaul |
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Hey, this is a damn good quarter of ND football. Suffocating defense, and a great smash-mouth run game. So far my favorite quarter of the year by far. |
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Our kickoffs have definitely improved. Oh, right - it's Navy. |
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Interesting, our typically-bad third quarter turns out to be extremely productive. Almost makes up for a half of blind H-O-R-S-E. |
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We would kill Temple. |
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The Audacity of Change in the Hope of Sustained Running Game by Charlie Weis (forward by his son) |
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Ricky Dobbs...didn't Will Ferrell play him in a movie? |
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lmao |
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we look like a top 40 team today |
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Ricki Bobby. |
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A well coached ND unit - imagine that! |
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Annapolis Nights right? |
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stopped them on 3rd and short....now END IT FOR GOOD Charlie |
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Message to CW: Please Let Them Play Today. |
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Planet- |
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Kamara doesn't fold after a hit? Is it coaching, steroids or alien influence |
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Ha. I'm just saying...It's only a game. And how can you remember it if you're blitzed? |
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Well, shit, I guess this message board doesn't allow text formatting. Now I just look like a dumbass. |
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It's Navy. |
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Voice: |
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OMG, our runners are hitting the defenders and pushing them back. Navy it may be, but we haven't seen that since Lou against anyone. |
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Voice-- |
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Enough already about CW jr wearing the damn head set. |
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Voice, make sure you Tivo that 60 Minutes segment... |
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Wow. Navy rallied from a 20-point fourth quarter deficit to TEMPLE? |
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Navy has fighter jets, and smart bombs, and battleships, and tomahawk missiles...AND WE ARE BEATING THEM!!! |
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Works fine AS, you just have to read it literally. Like someone already set the precedent with /sarcasm. |
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Point taken Vic--- |
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HOLY COW! We might have 200+ yards rushing this game! |
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California is burning again...I'm missing the game with Breaking News. What the heck is happening? |
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Voice- |
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Long TV timeout OC. |
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mj, about six minutes of commercials. |
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Man, running the ball is fun when it works. |
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Thanks guys. |
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Planeteire, Ten Four. |
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Love to see James do well - against ANYONE. |
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can we stop the "OMG Navy sucks so bad!" talk? |
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might be a draw with the Talis the way things are going...we outweigh them too with the Tomahawks and such...oh well...my money's on the USN, USA and USAF in that one...but we SHOULD win this one big... |
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Jimmy Clausen has settled down and been an awesome hander off of the ball. Agreed Craig Bolerjack. |
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3 headed monster...usually we're a3 headed puppy. |
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A llen |
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lmao, Voice! |
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Jimmy's under orders not to throw more than 5 yards downfield. |
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why dies the sight of our brain trust on the sideline not inspire confidence, I wonder? |
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i already miss floyd. |
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notice jc---telegraph-I'm getting ready to throw |
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Awesome!!!! |
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Nice, Walker - Oh yeah, forgot, it's NAVY. |
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They showed that brief ad for Two and a Half Men, and I heard the phrase "Charlie has a sleepover date." I wasn't watching the TV so I didn't know there was an ad. |
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OC-- |
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Floyd's loss might have been the best thing that happened to this team in awhile. |
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OC, They just don't get us. |
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even with the wind we can't get it in the endzone. |
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yeah, losing a no-brainer Freshman All-American WR is totally awesome! |
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I know, Voice, I know. :( |
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Poor Voice, so misunderstood.... |
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Wow, they must be hiding the score from the defense. Or they think we're behind. |
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In times like this, the gleam of blind optimism is far more attractive than painful realism. |
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It's always been that way, Nate. |
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4 weeks ago I would have said that if we could (as we should) improve at the same rate we seemed t be through the whole season, we might have a very outide chance (maybe 3 to 5%) against USC. |
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Navy - 34 carries only 135 yards rushing in the 4th! WOW! |
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Schultz and AS---Agreed! |
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Gentlemen, had old family friend come to town and visit us. So I missed the first half. Read everyone's comments to catch up on what happened. I like this group, but many of these comments should disappear. |
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This defence came to play. |
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THAT looked like one of our 4th down efforts... |
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Wow, that looked like one of our 4th down non-conversions! |
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JimK- so are you saying it's a 1-2 percent chance now...omg what a disaster |
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And I thank gwzimm, you sacrificed a body part to get ND an offensive line! ;-) |
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Ok, onehipdad gets me... |
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let's see...if Navy backs with size restrictions average 4+ ypc against us....those six deep guys at USC will average....hmmm..my calculator seems busted... |
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If this holds up, Corwin and Tenuta deserve bonuses. The D held up and gave Weis time to get things together. |
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Floyd is great. |
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Sharpley is coming in. Pop that cork and get that fat gal ready. |
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OC and OneHip---get a room |
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Ok, mj gets me...wait a minute |
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eerie, OC, eerie. |
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Jumping ahead, but... assuming 7-5, what bowl(s) are being talked about for this team? |
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Hey if our defence plays like this against U$C maybe we have a chance. Serious Kool aid talking. |
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I get you too Onehip |
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Once again, remember Stanford vs. USC last year! I'm not saying it's likely to happen, but it COULD happen, as nobody knows FOR SURE what will happen each week in this sport! |
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Cotton has sent reps to watch ND play. |
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"jump to 6 and 4"...did I hear correctly...this is NOTRE DAME? |
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vs FSU in the Gator Bowl. It's a lock. |
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I HATE when we quit! |
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i'm sorry jmk, but have you followed nd football in the past 10 years? |
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Gray got no help there. |
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Charlies playing all the subs. Brutal. |
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ahh...a great Gator Bowl...two once-great programs locking horns... |
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OK, now I am glad I didn't go to the game. |
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the rain is like MSU 2 years ago |
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What a downpour and a tornado warning. |
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I love wet cheerleaders. |
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JimK Rip van Winkle'd his way from 1973. We now have computers that sit on your lap! |
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Creepy comment of the day, VicPaul. |
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Roll it on. No respect for Navy. |
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VicPaul- |
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Sorry, had to be said. |
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agreed, vicpaul. we were all thinking it. |
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AS, are you female? |
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well, me....forgive moi...you know how us old alums are...I graduated in '71....we had a job at ND called "head football coach" back then...we had a team in which a season in which you had fewer than 80% victories was a total disaster...there was this thing we were in every year called "The Top Ten"...and something called a "W" occasionally when we went to bowls... |
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Fear the angry wet fat man |
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So this adds 20+ yards per game to our season stats. |
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ndmom liked that one, VP. |
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Wet cheerleaders--not creepy. |
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AS - ...like old Rip....I keep hoping it's a nightmare I'll wake up from!!! |
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Haha no, I do not disagree. But there's just something shady about using the words "love" and "wet" when referring to people. |
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i want gray to get a td |
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Nate---lol...there's probably a website where wet cw pics would get some hits |
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I am female and was a cheerleader - and yeah, I laughed. |
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What's the ruling on the field? |
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Okay, now THAT wins creepy comment of the day, PlanetEire. YECH. |
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it's a creepy world nate...just saying |
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Haha Nate, agreed. Previous comment redacted. |
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I know, Planet--not saying YOU are creepy, but the comment gives me the willies. |
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they are taking a long review to stay out of the rain. |
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Bet all the folks in Baltimore love this long review. |
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Hey Steve Beurlein...that running game confidence will last two plays against USC, which has what may be the best top-to-bottom D in their history... |
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Well, balls. |
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eww wet weis |
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Buerlein just said the USC game is at home this year. WOW WOW WOW |
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Charlie looks like a wet basset hound. |
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That's why you don't put in the subs yet. I'm not saying were going to lose this game but there'e something to be said for just finishing a game the right way. |
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well, SOMEONE's home..just not ours... |
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You can't win ballgames away when you turn the ball over... |
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Just looked at the stats -- Clausen completed 17 of 18 passes. Wish 2 of them had been incomplete instead. |
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(cue to OC MJ) |
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let the young kids play. |
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Did Buerlein ever graduate from ND? |
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Tough call on subs. Don't want an injury in the rain. |
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JimK-- |
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USC is a home game for Buerlein. Isn't he from Fullerton. |
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parenthesis - one would think that a Giant company like Coke could come up with a better ad campaign...and would cease and desist with this stupidity... |
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Did it only rain while we were on offense? What the? |
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Indeed, Planet! |
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I just want a win that doesn't even look close. |
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Coke is run by an ND grad -- hire some of the MBAs to make a legit advertising campaign! |
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Nate, we can't complain about the elements working against us. |
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Also: UM '08 |
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aha |
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AS,you're right. Was just observing. |
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Our friend that works for Coke says the attorneys are real Coke attorneys, not actors. |
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27-7 or 27-14 is a great win folks...I'm just worried bout 'cuse |
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Navy got jobbed on that replay. |
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Perfect campaign for Coke Zero would be to take a song like "Saved by Zero" and play off the zero. Cant believe no one has thought of that idea. |
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Planet, they gave Pitt a game. |
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Anyone see the ND-UM highlights on YouTube put to the Yackety Sax music -- great stuff! |
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Looks like Michigan is going to lose. |
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Voice, I know you're tempted by that "zero" suggestion... |
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Now this Miller campaign may not be stellar but it gets the product front and center and puts it in a context for their target consumers... |
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The Coke Zero campaign is done by Crispin, Porter & Bogusky. |
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Michigan loses, 21-14, to Northwestern. |
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Nate, that play was the same as that play against UNC that overturned a 1st-down completion that would have sealed the game. If a receiver (or DB), catches the ball in midair, and hits the ground after catching it, he can't drop the ball immediately after hitting the ground. That was the right call. |
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Let Sharpley throw. |
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Navy has no d right now. |
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StraightEdge - seems like there are some hits and misses there, age notwithstanding...the MS with Seinfeld laid an egg...current "I'm Windows" is better but not quite up to Mac's lampoon of Windows... |
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How does Florida play THE CITADEL this late in the season??!? |
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I liked the Coke Zero ad that featured the great Tito Puente's "Mambo Gallego". |
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Macs new ads have already killed the new Microsoft campagin. |
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How's it feel, Michigan? |
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I love UM being 3-8....soon to be 3-9 |
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"How's it feel, Michigan?" |
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Will there be hundreds of stories about the end of UM football?? |
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onside kick in the rain...watch out |
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Thanks for bothering to tell us what the penalty was...oh wait. |
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Épee, Michigan is, liek, sooooooo irrelevant. |
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Ever since Pitt 2005, Weis has shown he can't finish off games. |
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Way to put this away, guys...come on... |
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Well, Epee - UM is two seasons removed from grousing about not being in BCS championship game...we haven't seriously challenged since abour '93... |
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Lot of backups in for the Irish? Am I right? |
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JimK, |
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one difference...UM has won a bowl game or two in recent years |
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"Will there be hundreds of stories about the end of UM football??" |
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I would hate to see those 2 wet. |
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rekick the onside kick? funny |
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That's a new one for me. |
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What's "illegal batting"? |
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great info, Straight! and some of their stuff IS blow-away creative, according to your previous list...and great comment about the South park SanFran episode... |
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WHAT? |
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I know where a pic of a wet female surfer that we all know and love can be found. |
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Oi. |
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OK...not happy if it's 27-21 |
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This is why subs dont play unless a game is un-loseable. |
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Charlie letting off the gas bites us in the ass again, what a dick. |
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see...like last year...I gotta love the Nav's effort - every year...they almost took us down like five times before last year....why don't we play like that? |
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Planet would 28-27 be better? |
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Onside kick return team ALWAYS go forward to get the ball. Our guys go backwards. Crappy. |
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God, we're bad. |
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I hate you, Planet. |
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28-27? only against USC |
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Difference between a college coach and a pro coach. |
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This might be Navy's version of our '79 Cotton Bowl. |
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This bodes very well for our officer corps for the next 30 years. Look on the bright side. |
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Areyoueffingkiddingmee??? |
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Crispin, Porter + Bogusky. |
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Christ almighty- could we FINISH A DAMNED GAME ONE FREAKING TIME THIS SEASON? It's not that I'm completely disappointed with their efforts (at least not today) but giving up and playing half-assed football is NEVER acceptable, even if you're up by two TDs. |
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God forbid we score to go up 34-7 and "embarrass" our good friends at the Naval Academy. Maybe Charlie will finally learn his lesson this time. |
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Catch. 1st and goal. |
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Like the Stanford game, we should never be at this point. This is why Weis needs to go. |
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How did anyone rule that a TD in the first place? |
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doesn't this make you wonder about putting in the 2nd string with 10 min left when only up by 20? |
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No Catch. |
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You have got to be kidding me. |
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AS? |
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i totally agree tony |
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charlie's more concerned with organizing the "jog over to Navy's student section and bow down to them while they sing their song after the game is over" than winning the effing game. |
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I don't know if ND has played a Complete Game all year. |
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Only in jest, Planet. I don't really hate you. |
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Charlie looks less than inspiring over there. |
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Was the kid's heal not on the line? |
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what a joke this team is. CW is bad enough but the players have no pride. none. lead by one of the all time wussies, clausen |
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charlie SHOULD be concerned about his job to light a fire under his rear...Swarbrick did us no favors at half.... |
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The genius is slow on the uptake -I'm sick of this shit. |
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The special teams coaches have to go. |
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Exactly if CW doesn't put in the second stringers in the fans gripe that the underclassmen don't get experience, and then when he does the team comes close to losing games. This is absolutely ridiculous. Don't put this on CW because I haven't seen him play one play in his career. This is on his players who quit on him. |
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No, we are Kaypro to USC's Apple. |
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put a jacket on you fat disgusting slob |
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This is a colossal collapse, and heads must roll if they lose this game. |
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roughing?? I dont f-ing BELIEVE this!! |
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Jerry - i totally disagree...you just dont put in 2nd stringers when only up 20 with 10 min left |
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A penalty on the PAT?!?!?! Why do I get up in the middle of the night for this. |
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Nice finish again, boys. |
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the problem is cw doesn't indicate extra point after tds...cmon guys you know it's true...bring back ty (or bob or my lawn service guy, or the shut-in down the street, or bin laden) |
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flag |
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we may all get what we want. if he loses this in this fashion, he is gone. |
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Please be offsides. Pleas. |
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unbelievable |
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The theory that a team takes on the personality of their head coach has never had a better example than this ND squad. Even with our top flight recruits, we are a pussified group with no killer instinct. I blame Weis more than the kids. Tomorrow people may read this and be pissed at me, but I don't give a fuck. |
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I want to vomit |
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'bye Charles |
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The officiating has also been TERRIBLE. |
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Can the announcer be any happier that Navy recovered?!? |
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Weis should do the right thing and quit right now, before the game ends. |
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are you kidding Tony...you are too generous to cw |
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wow |
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Win or lose, get Weis out. |
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Blubber butt |
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i've always defending Weis against those who said he was "arrogant". |
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This is why I don't like Charlie being a nice guy in college football. If he wants to be successful, he gotta have the guts to run up the score, just like Pete Carroll, Bob Stoops, Urban Meyer, Mack Brown, Mike Leech ... etc |
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Robby Parris got rolled on that play. Who is laughing now? |
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is this really happening? |
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4 Friggin Domers standing doing nothing, if that isn't a reflection of the coaching, nothing is. |
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Losing this game....would get ANY coach fired coming on the heels of the rest of this season... |
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Hughes dropped the onside the first time, and let it bounce perfectly in front of him the second. |
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a team full of quitting pussies |
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Wide friggin open!!!! |
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you're right Planet |
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how are receivers getting behind defenders? how? |
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Nice Guy? |
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Re: this Dobbs guy - do you think we would accept a transfer from the Naval Academy. |
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Navy, Pitt, BC, UNC |
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It's not Nice Guy. It's Inept Guy. |
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at least d has some pride here...good rush |
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weren't they out of timeouts? |
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What the f??? What time out? |
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um, why isn't the clock moving? |
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SNAFU |
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is cw crying... i feel bad for him but he is backroom xo nerd who has noi business on the sideline |
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"2+1+1+2" |
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either we lose or we barely escape...nuff said |
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hooray? |
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SOOO....no explanation of the time out?? |
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Maybe we should sign Weis to another 10 year extension? |
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they should be ashamed. don't celebrate after almost giving the game away. |
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My heart SHOULD NOT be in my throat. |
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How about another Navy timeout?? That wasn't really a 4th down play. |
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We dont deserve to win this thing. God help us against USC |
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cw---smiling? Have you no pride? |
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WE'RE GOING TO A BOWL GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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This is Comical. |
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That never happened. |
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They are paying Weis too much for this S.O.S. |
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get that fat little piece of shit charlie jr off the field. he gets the first hug. why should they be hugging anyone. get the pimple faced little prick off the field |
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i really just cant even be happy about this game... it feels like a loss |
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This has not been the finest hour for ND football or the CBS network. |
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For someone who has his head on the block, CW did NOT help his case one bit today. |
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Well this is our lot in life with Weis at the helm. Some years we lose to Navy and some years we hold on and win. |
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belocki, quit trying. |
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Hey, take it easy on the kid. |
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relax. we won. |
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epee-agreed |
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Disgusting. This feels like a loss. Actually, it really IS a loss. |
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cook - you call that a win? That was disgraceful. They should be ashamed of that effort. TWICE on onsides we watched the ball. Inexcusable effort. |
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Did cook really just say that? |
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I hope this a wake-up call for cw...but I know he doesn't get it |
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we won! yeah? and I agree lay off jr. |
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OK, think my breathing is returning to normal. |
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Anybody will be better than Weis at this point. |
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A bitter victory. How bizarre. |
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big props to Navy.... another awesome game and a good win for ND vs a team with a winning record. Not impressed by the turnovers one bit, but with a win vs Cuse next weekend, you can start booking your trips to Jacksonville!! |
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And they pay this fat tub of lard $3.5 mil a year? |
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we need to keep the foot on the throat when we have them beat. you let them up, they shoot you in the head. F$%K |
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I liked Ty football a lot more than this. |
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agree Kyle M...it's heresy, I know, but it almost would have felt better had Navy won because they deserved to...out season is mediocre toast at best anyway...USC will massacre us before our bowl loss against virtually any decent team. |
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6-4 > 3-9. |
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Jacques is right, there are Pop Warner coaches who would have managed that 4th quarter better. |
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This ND Team will not win the National Championship with Charlie's mindset... |
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This team hasn't improved over last year. They just had a weaker schedule. |
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Jaques, You obviously haven't been paying attention to Irish football for the past 10+ years. Get a grip. A win is a win. Sure it was ugly, but we are now bowl-eligible, and that is the end of that story. |
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It was CW fault that they didn't recover either kick. As the God Lou Holtz says the coach gets too much credit for wins and too much blame for the losses. How about we start throwing a few of these players under the bus. |
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and then we go to the UF carolina game. its like another game on another planet. |
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When is going to get that we don't have the backups to preserve a 20 point lead with 10 mins left. I'm shaking right now. |
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yea, that bowl thing has worked out pretty well for the last 15 years... |
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I predict cw presser: |
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Friggin A. I've been defending Weis up until this game. |
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right on gwzimm! (showing my age) |
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gwzimm- |
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it's not the end of the world. |
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I have been following since 1980 and that last 5 mintues made me as sick as Faust failing against Air Force. Weis is the Sunday version of Friday Faust. |
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I honestly felt torn over which team to root for at the end there. |
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I don't know of any reputable team that would have pulled starters as early as ND did. |
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And yet, we exercised a lot more ball control today so that Navy didn't have a lot of time left to work with for their comeback. Last year we would have lost this game at the end. |
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Wow, I can't believe there are actually people commenting with a "win is a win" attitude. I'm gonna log off before it gets ugly; can't wait to come back and survey the carnage tomorrow morning. Slainte men! |
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"I honestly felt torn over which team to root for at the end there." |
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Had Navy had a passing game...we WOULD have lost. |
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Charlie, |
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Don't think we will ever see Weis make the early sub mistake again. |
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Nate; doesn't your KP start in 22 minutes. |
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Last year we didn't even get to make the early sub mistake. |
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"I honestly felt torn over which team to root for at the end there." |
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Dont post much, but I gotta say something.... the late-game coaching decisions are unbelievable!! Why not punt on the 4th down up 20?? Why give them a chance and momentum when you are in control? Nice onsides - hands team. The same thing happened as I sat in the stands of the UNC game and Jimmy threw the pick 6, the late hit by Smith for the Pitt game, and then today...not saying a game is made up of 1 or 2 plays...but when you have a young team trying to win...you cant let up. Just sayin'...easily could be 7-3 or 8-2 right now...Okay that is it for now. At least UNC basketball is on shortly. |
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Fellas, take a breath. Miserable ending, sure. But how often does a team recover two onside kicks? Fluke, bad special teams, whatever. |
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This was a shit game. I challenge anyone to argue that. This was absolutely true. |
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I missed the first half, but Navy was outplayed in the third quarter, when it counted. |
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Two years ago some of you were bitching because CW did not put in subs. |
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Charlie can do NO right with you clowns. Leave the first team in and he's running up the score.....put in the subs and he's mis-managing the game. He was doing no different then he always does with a lead in the fourth....he puts in his subs. Sheesh, you guys need to get a fucking grip. |
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Like Faust, Weis is over-his-head in the Saturday game. Weis in an embarrassment to the school and team I love. That said, I would rather have Ty than having Weis at the controls. I thought the 2008 team was similar to 2004 one. They are leagues apart. Best thing about attending the UCLA game at the Rose Bowl is that I could just watch the team...not the head coach. |
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Schultz, |
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By the way, Anonymous, you're wrong. Navy was outplayed. They most certainly weren't outcoached and they no doubt showed more heart. But they were outplayed. |
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"Not me, I wanted NAVY. They deserved it, outmanned, outgunned, but certainly not outplayed." |
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Well, Scultz, I was conflicted too because Nav had heart and we didn't...PLUS... |
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ND offense fumbles on the five clearly CW fault. |
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Straight Edge, |
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Put some things in perspective. |
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Schultz -- I lost that logic, too. Fascist??? |
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"'me american, like good time, $5.00, beaucoup dollars." |
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Pangborn -- yep, time for a cool heads analysis. |
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LOL! |
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Jerry: |
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I will give Weis THIS though: |
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Justin trattou just made a tackle for Florida... that bitch. |
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I haven't seen a "run up the score" complaint in, well, forever. Way, way too soon for the subs - put the damn game away first! |
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161 visitors online...how much does that make the average share for the buyout now? |
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Navy - 1 of 13 on 3rd downs, 0 for 2 on 4th. |
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Pathetic coaching in the first half and the last 10 minutes of the game.. examples too many for me to list... |
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Call of the dogs people... we let up a little soon but this young team finally won a close one. Major growth game for these guys... |
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Everyone should go back and read Pangborn77 and Jerry's posts. Finally some logic to this discussion. |
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i apologize for calling you a jackass Straight Edge. |
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ND average rush 4.5 |
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Josh and Diesel - Yes, but I think you folks are looking micro and not macro. It's better to win than lose and if you can find some centimeters of improvement here, good. |
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I hope Floyd's knee is alright. |
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Just say no...to a bowl game! |
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Schultz, |
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JimK - Stop smoking hobo pole for candy. |
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Diesel - But it makes me feel so good and forget all this crap!!!!!!! |
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You can't blame Justin Tratteau. He went with a winner, did what was best for him. He's never get a ring at ND. |
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"our schedule this year is hugely weaker this year than last. Navy's record and rushing stats are against second and third tier Div 1 teams." |
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I really do get tired of hearing the strength of schedule. Yes it is weaker, but look at USC outside of two games they play in the PAC 10. Not that hard of a schedule. Michigan plays us and Ohio State. SEC teams play cupcakes all the time. The only conference that is completely stacked this year is the Big 12. You can only play the teams you are scheduled and you never know how hard that schedule will be until after the season is complete. Do we really want to play Texas Oklahoma USC Michigan Alabama Florida every single year and expect to win a NC. That just isn't possible anymore. |
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GWZIMM -- |
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its hard to control how the schedule is going to end up being, but considering how down the teams are that are being played, even cw predicted more wins |
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LOL Anon! Yes, we open with traditional powerhouse Nevada and play both Wash and Wash St, plus UCONN. Realy a fine way to get back to prominence. |
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While others are hung up on coaching, I'm hung up on the officiating. That's one of the worst 5 min. of officiating that I've ever seen. I still can't see how the play that put Navy inside the 1 yd line was a catch. For my whole life, a catch in college football has consisted of a reciever gaining possesion of the football with one foot in bounds. I watched the 20 replays and saw the same thing 20 times. The Navy reciever picked up his left foot, caught the pass mid-stride, then brought his right foot down, half in bounds/half out of bounds. Without this catch, I don't believe this game would have been so close. |
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IMVHO, it comes down to next year -- games like these will require CW to go. But if everyone gets their act together, who knows what ND could do? |
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Patriots owner Robert Kraft is on the Florida Gators sideline as a guest of the Chinless Bastard. That's funny to me. |
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A) Horrible coaching by Weis in the last 2-3 minutes. |
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If I were Syracuse, I would onside kick it every single time. We can't field it and they'd get the ball at the 50 yard line every time. |
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Jerry - we used to play 3-4 cupcakes, 2-3 top top teams, and 3-4 good ones. That's how you prove yourself, even today. |
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. . . add the timeout issue and the clock mis-management, and the officials completely lost it. |
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i agree, foot appeared half out. also, if navy challenged the TD and it was not a TD, they should of lost a TO. |
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JimK - Cheers buddy... see you guys next week. |
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warsaw28, |
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Michael, agree with all your points. I did not think Navy got that 1st down - horrible spot and no measuring. Pathetic officiating. |
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the board ops should divide the comments up into pages or sections |
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Yeah, thought my eyes had gone bad -- was 1-2 yards short of 1st down. |
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Hey, Michael-thanks for reminding me about the bad spot, and no measurement. |
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"Jerry - we used to play 3-4 cupcakes, 2-3 top top teams, and 3-4 good ones. That's how you prove yourself, even today." |
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Recruiting does not win games. It looks good and feels good, but actually coaching and playing win games. Weis can cling to recruiting but he can't on coaching. |
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brian custer is smoking hobo pole for candy, right now ... behind Toy's R Us |
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So starts the next 43 game winning streak! |
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Straight Edge, |
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are there any good games today? i'm hoping Maryland/UNC isn't the best that this weekend has to offer. |
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There once was a man named Weis |
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blaming officiating. yes that will solve all the problems |
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StraightEdge -- you are absolutely brutal to read. Go crawl back in your glass half empty hole. We get it. You hate Weis, you think ND sucks, and there's nothing but gloom and doom. |
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Voice, had the same reaction regarding the Chinless One's invite. WTF? Florida is taking it to the old bawl coach right now. Visors will be flying. |
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Regardless of whether people are overreacting to this close win the fact is that we are a long way from any kind of BCS relevancy. |
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"Regardless of whether people are overreacting to this close win the fact is that we are a long way from any kind of BCS relevancy." |
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Didn't think you were still logged on here, OC. Hubby's happy, eh? |
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Edge, Great job, really great job, with tying CW into a rhyming poem! I mean, seriously, who was your 8th-grade English teacher? I want to call her (or him) up and seriously congratulate them for the breadth of your knowledge and grasp of the English language. You go, Edge! You deserve it! |
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For those who expected BCS this year -- a big disappointment. |
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I'm recording it for him - wow, that was an AWFUL play there! |
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SC self-destruct! |
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The point spread was 3.5 and the ref/s were doing their part to make sure Navy covered. The officiating scandal (NBA) is more widespread than people think. Go back to the 1985 Royals win over St. Louis in game six. |
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Where do we go from here. I don't think Weis is that much better a coach than TW or Davie. In fact he should have a way better record because his recruiting classes have been far superior than the other two. And of course you can't fire a guy who is great at recruiting but can't coach a lick. |
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As you watch Florida, notice the emotion they play with. Zombies not. |
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poopface |
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Why not? Can't he be "reassigned"? |
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USC top top team, UNC, MSU, Pitt, Navy BC I would call decent teams, SDSU, Stanford, Syracuse, Purdue I would call cupcakes. Who would have ever thought that Michigan would have been as bad as they were this year. |
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zz -- yep, I remember that Royals-Cards game -- what an amazingly bad call! |
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the most important thing for this team to accomplish at this point is to get into a bowl game and win it |
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LOL. |
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Brian -- yes! |
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1985 World Series Game 6: 2nd worst call ever. |
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Schultz -- bravo! Very true! |
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What is the big deal about playing in a flea bag bowl against another crummy squad? That's a no-win situation. ND should decline any bowl unless they are a top 25 team. But, of course, the lure of an extra month of practices is just too great for a scheme genius to resist. |
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Jerry and Anon - true that we may not be ready for appropriate scheduling...but we never will be with CW. And if we do put 2 more cupcakes and get 9 wins + BCS - we get killed again. We have to be able to prove that we can play with really good teams and win more than half the time against the best. The jury is abso-freaking-lutely in on Weis. 3 1/2 years. He's not taing us there. |
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3rd worst call -- USC back jumps into end zone at ND to win the game, only Kevin Griffith was holding the ball back at the 3 yard line. The back had it stripped and dove in without the ball. And the refs never noticed it! |
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maybe I am confused, but any time someone "drags a toe" to get a foot in-bounds we call it a good catch, what is the difference with the catch inside the one? |
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Can't y'all see: Charlie is doing the rope-a-dope to USC......this is GENIUS! |
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"I tend to be Half Empty Kind of Guy a bit, but I really think pointing out the good now is like saying "Hey, those levees held pretty well for the first hour, huh?" |
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bad calls - no one else remembers the "score without the ball" in the Coliseum against SC in 1982? or Paul McDonald fumbling but called a pass in 78 after Montana brought the team back from 24-6 to lead 26-24 only to lose 27-26? |
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Epee is right. The USC running back was named Michael Harper. Irish lost to SC that day due to the non-call. It was 1982. Beginning in '83 ND beat SoCal 11 times in a row. |
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Setting pride aside, wouldn't it be folly not to take a bowl bid, simply on the extra month of practice for our very very young team?? |
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good point NavyJoe...I have never understood the "turn down a bowl" mindset |
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Jim K |
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rey: Every part of the foot that comes down, has to come down in bounds. Dragging the toe is fine because it's only the toes that touch. |
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on the brightside of going to a bowl game is that the other team will probably suck so the winless bowl streak will hopefully end |
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rey, there is no difference. It was a good call. |
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Bowl call is tough -- depends on the team's attitude. Are they tired or hungry for a win? All beat up or fired up? |
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The David Grimes TD catch reversal last year against Stanford should be ranked somewhere. It didn't determine the outcome of the game, but it still sucked. |
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Michael: Where can I look that up? |
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Also, it's not as if we were supposed to be aweesome this year. Finishing 7-5 is about what most people predicted, and is some form of an improvement over last year, so I have no problem taking it. I would have had an issue with a 9-3 ND team (not outside the realm of possibility at all) taking a BCS bid... |
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Right you are, Jerry, and I know that. I'd guess that if we were good enough to be say 9-1 right now with big score run-ups we might well by in the top 12. |
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OC -- yep, catch of the year taken away by clowns! |
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Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I believe when a receiver drags a toe, they usually drag it in bounds, or tap it, then bring it up, creating a "step" to = one foot in bounds. When a reciver steps down with half his foot out of bounds, it's not a catch. |
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rey: Efforting on that. |
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Weis is not on the chopping block, he is not in hot water he is not going anywhere. You heard that in the Swarbrick interview. ND learned their lesson with the handling of the Willingham situation. If they let Weis go after this year it will send a bad message out to other coaches. The only place his head is on the chopping block is here and he doesnt particularly give a damn about that. So there is no reason to get your shorts in a bunch about Weis being fired. Now, this bovine scatology that we witnessed today is enough to make anyone sick. I dont care how much respect you have for Navy, beat them 41-7 and then respect them. This crap about not being even competetive on onside kicks shows that there is no aggressiveness with the offensive players. I sometimes think if this team goes 7-5 they should not go to a bowl game, but then that penalizes the kids. Since the players get no blame and it is all coaching then we should go to the Swamp Bowl in Shreveport or whatever to reward them. Maybe a bowl trip would be great inspiration. Weis needs to tell the other team that he is taking his foot of the gas and that they should also coast. I remember reading a great story by Lou involving him and Bobby Bowden when Lou was at William and Mary and Bowden was at WVU. Bowden beat him 43-10 and Lou felt that he had run up the score. After the game he questioned him and Bowden said, "Lou, it isnt my job to keep the score down." Maybe Weis needs to learn that, this isnt the NFL. |
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Anon: I have seen "toe drags" that continue through until out of bounds, but there could be some difference between College and the NFL. I am just curious as to what the rule actually says. |
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Anon, it shouldn't have been a catch. The first foot that came down was half in/half out of bounds and that equals out of bounds. What's more galling is that the ref initially ruled it a TD and it was not even close to that. Watching that the game, it really felt like they were giving Navy chance after chance (the refs that is). |
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http://www.ncaapublications.com/
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Just a great quote; thanks DB12. Any bets on many points FL runs up on SC? |
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I hate the term running up the score. The job of the offense is to score points. The job of the defense is to stop the offense from scoring. It doesn't matter if you win 100-0 you did not run up the score, your offense did its job and the defense did it's job. Play the entire 60 minutes and as soon as the clock goes to all zeroes that is when you take your foot off the gas. |
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If any part of the foot or body is touching out of bounds at the moment of possession, it is ruled out of bounds, no matter how much of the foot is actually in bounds. If only a part of the foot touches down in bounds simultaneous to the catch, then it is a catch, provided no part of the foot is touching the boundary line. Been that way since 1875. |
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Now we need the review booth to review timeout calls. |
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Polian's Hands Team, |
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You don't disrespect a team by scoring on them. You disrespect a team when you did what the ND player did after the punt block. Run the ball into the end zone, flip it to the ref run back to the sidelines because you just did your job. Like Lou says "act like you've been there before." |
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Trying to remember the penalty for calling one timeout too many. Delay of game, 5 yards, and a runoff of time? Or is that in the pros? Or am I just wrong about the time runoff? |
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Jeez, this board sounds like a Stanford football fan site. Everyone is happy with 7-5, taking baby steps, and qualifying for no-name bowls. |
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amen DB12. The histrionics from the usual suspects around here is to be suspected (and ignored). |
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I don't have a problem with Weis not punting on 4th and 3 late in the game at approx 45 yd line but if you're going to go for it you should bring back your 1st team D if you don't make it. This team shuts down way too early. Parrish needs to be beaten not because he batted the ball out (he probably didn't know the rule) but because he was smiling and acting like a doofus after it happened. |
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The Navy catch was indeed in bounds because though his heel appeared to be out of bounds, unlike a touchdown where simply breaking the plane is enough to warrant being in the endzone, on sideline boundaries breaking the plane is not applicable. The kids' heel appeared to me to be over the line, elevated, but not touching any part of the line, while his toe was in bounds. |
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Pat, don't be dense. No one is happy with 7-5. We're simply being realistic based upon the shitshow that was last year's season. It's not like we lost five games last year on fluke playes- we were systematically obliterated in just about every game. Thus, since there isn't free agency in NCAA Football, to think that we would be BCS bound this year would be somewhat delusional. |
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rey: Rule 7. Section 3. Article 7a. But even the language there isn't clear. |
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CW have anything interesting to say at presser? |
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To call it a catch, you have to assume that he instantaneously gained possession upon catching the ball...unlikely |
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Pat H, we did go after Meyer. When he saw the mess left by [name redacted], he wisely turned us down. |
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The kids' heel appeared to me to be over the line, elevated, but not touching any part of the line, while his toe was in bounds. |
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So what are the thoughts for next year? I believe that we need to win at least 9 games for Charlie not to be wondering whether he's going to find a pink slip in his locker, and that number may go up to 10 depending on how we finish this year. |
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Michael: I am looking at the rule book, and it is at the very least unclear. This referee stuff must be tough huh? |
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Still looking for the penalty for calling an extra TO, just can't find it. |
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why is everyone pissed at CW?if Jonas Gray doesn't fumble we are up 34-7 possibly 30-7 game over.Any time we get big leads we just give up. |
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Delay of game and? |
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It was totally fitting that that game followed Saturday morning cartoons on CBS because it was a joke itself. |
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-----some interesting "picks" (gotta love it!)from early today--- |
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My gripe is the subs were sent in too soon. One more score, go for it. |
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rey: I am doing the same. The language is vague. Agreed. I am reading through the examples to see if one covers this type of question specifically. |
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and also....WTF is up with Jimmy Clausen?I would have benched him after the first pick. |
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It is not a penalty to call too many time outs. If the officiating crew realizes that too many time outs have been called they start the clock. Unlike basketball, where it is a technical foul to call a timeout if you dont have any. |
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thanks DB |
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The biggest problem with this team is that they are super talented athletes who have never had any (or little) adversity in high school. They had everyone in the country wanting them to go to their school and they think that their $%^& doesn't stink. They don't crush their opponents because they think that the opponent is just going to die after they get behind by 2 tds. Maturity is the problem. I'm not sure how much a coach can force the issue on that when he has no players in the upper classes to put in. Hell, maybe they're not mature either. |
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Time to go get Chinese -- be good! Go Irish! |
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JT, |
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I agree with OCmj that the subs were put in early, but who would have thought that the good hands team would have lost not one but two onside kicks. That is totally unacceptable. |
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'This bodes well for a dominating performance by us vs. Traditional Power Syracuse.' |
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You guys are all a bunch of fucking assholes. Get a life. |
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LOL! |
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I agree. Thanks for bringing me back to earth. |
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I want someone to go to the USC game an hold a huge ass sign saying:SOMEWHERE LOU HOLTZ IS CRYING. |
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"can we stop the "OMG Navy sucks so bad!" talk? |
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I know we all dislike the ESPN gameday crew, but Kirk Herbstreit said something today, that reflects the entire country. The last 14 years ND has averaged 7 wins a year why are they getting so much attention about their coach. We keep calling for Lou, it has become a shame that we have to live so long ago. |
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4 weeks ago I would have said that if we could (as we should) improve at the same rate we seemed t be through the whole season, we might have a very outide chance (maybe 3 to 5%) against USC. |
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"jump to 6 and 4"...did I hear correctly...this is NOTRE DAME? |
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What was Lou's record in his last three years at ND? |
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I think Charlie needs a new OC who a) has experience at the college level in that job, and b) can fire up the troops. I think Corwin and Tenuta can get the defense's juices flowing, but Charlie seems totally inept at getting his offense excited and proud. To wit, we blew those halftime leads against UNC and Pitt -- I think that MUST have to do with a lack of halftime-speech fire. Charlie's a great recruiter, but he can't get his team excited and that's a real problem. Apparently at the BC game, the Eagles fans were screaming at our players, taunting them about having no heart -- and our guys just sat there looking sad, like they knew the fans were right. We need an offensive motivator to help change that, and Charlie has never seemed like he can fill that role. |
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27-7 or 27-14 is a great win folks...I'm just worried bout 'cuse |
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Charlie letting off the gas bites us in the ass again, what a dick. |
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Weis is Norv Turner. He's a great coordinator who is not a particularly good head coach. No shame in that. He should be coordinating someplace in the NFL where his lack of people skills aren't a hindrance. |
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This bodes very well for our officer corps for the next 30 years. Look on the bright side. |
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Charlie lacks a killer instinct. He's soft like his belly. Pulling the starters was a bonehead move. It's ok if your second teamers are capable of closing the deal, but given this team's propensity to fold in the second half it's just plain dumb for Weis to take his foot off the pedal in any game. Congrats to the Irish. The jury is still out on Weis, although it is certain that he'll get another year at this point. |
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"The genius is slow on the uptake -I'm sick of this shit." |
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When have I ever been a Weis apologist, Bill? |
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We dont deserve to win this thing. God help us against USC |
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And with that, Bill H. officially leaves the reservation. |
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He'll be missed like a jack hammer. Over and out. |
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"Don't think we will ever see Weis make the early sub mistake again." |
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Bill H was never on the reservation. |
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"Charlie will learn...I think" |
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I can't wait to see what everyone says next year when the Irish are playing good winning football with experienced players. I'd like to see one of you freakin bozo's actually say |
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I agree with Domer97. I'd like to see the Irish win all of their games and I'm not sure if CW will ever get ND to that point but I'd be willing to be that Bill H is either Jason Whitlock or Mark May. Whoever he is he's not a fan. |
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1. Ara decided to quit after he barely beat Navy in 1974. |
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"The macro is that ND under Weis is utterly no better off than under Davie or Willingham, both of whom were let go. Deservedly." |
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"..I really think pointing out the good now is like saying "Hey, those levees held pretty well for the first hour, huh?" |
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"ND sucks. And a fish rots from the head down. |
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Anyone ever propose a get-together (In Real Time) somewhere for this crew? |
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We've been down this road for the last 12 years. We can't keep hiring and firing coaches every 4 years. Who are we going to get? The elite coaches don't want to come to ND. We have to stick with Charlie. He's smart, he's a great recruiter, and he's ND. If he gets good coordinators we'll be really good. The college football landscape has changed, and we have to accept that. The kids we recruit were 3 years old when ND was last in the hunt. ND doesn't have the aura it used to. For the first time in 15 years, we have a coach that can recruit top notch players. 8 years ago we looked at our teams and complained at how the players were slow and unathletic, now we've got athletes. If he can get the right team around him, we'll be good. If we fire him and hire some other unknown, we'll be back here in four years saying the same damn things, and we'll have crappy players. |
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1985 World Series Game 6: 2nd worst call ever. |
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Who made Bill H the moderator? Or is he on staff at BGS now? |
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Yogurt |
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Will someone please get Mike Anello a graduate school application? |
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OCmj - wasn't referring to YOU as a Weis apologist; sorry you thought so. |
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After next year ....how about Paul Johnson from Georgia Tech ? |
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Straight Edge, Schultzie, Bill H., Jim K, wow they were all on Fire today. |
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Fattie Arbuckle could learn a thing or two from Jim Harbaugh. 106 rushing yards in the 1st quarter against Poodle is pretty impressive, no? |
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Weis will not be fired this year, get that through you heads. Meyer and every other coach knew what he was facing in year three, that is why Meyer asked about certain situations and was rebuffed. ND doesnt sign JUCO players so everyone knew that 2007 was going to be horrible. Now Weis will have an experienced team with a very good recruiting class coming in next year. He has recruited depth at almost every position. If we dont see the type of production that we saw with the 2005 team then I believe he will be let go after next year. The buyout is huge, but the cupboard would be well stocked. If you are a coach would you want to take a job that they fired the coach in four years with so much youth and talent for going 7-5? Especially knowing what ND had last year? If you hire a new coach there is no guarantee that next year would be any better. New system, getting to know the players, different schedule. There are kids here because they believe in this staff, how many would leave? You dont want to use the experience excuse, but is it really an excuse. How many first time starters are there? Next year we will have experience.Weis still knows more about football than anyone on this board, not apologizing for him, just a fact. How many of us could stop his offense or move the ball against his defense, without saying I would do the same thing that so and so team did? Remember those schools have some good coaches too. Not making excuses, just saying it would be foolhardy to fire him after this year. As for our history, our recent history is not very good and if you want to be like Michigan and keep bringing up their won-lost record, well they are on the verge of being 3-9, so much for history. We have no mystic anymore, thank Fr. Malloy and Mike Wadsworth for that. |
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Many of the comments a week ago were about our abysmal OL play and CW's inability to make halftime adjustments. |
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Ok, Bill H I did misunderstand, my bad. |
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I meant mystique. |
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Weis can recruit. And he can keep recruiting studs until he's Blue in the Face. |
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I agree 100% with DB12. There is no coach in the NCAAF that is better suited than CW for ND. Look at what Stanford is doing to USC. Maybe we do have a chance. |
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BGS staff - w/ all due respect, have you guys ever considered requiring people to register prior to commenting here? This comments section is way out of hand. |
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Yep, larry. |
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