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According to recent practice reports, John Carlson can run all of those routes at the same time. |
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Has anyone ever called an "out" route a "sideline"? And whatever happened to a slant? And circle is usually called a "wheel" route. I wonder what decade this diagram is from. |
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According to the post, it's from the 60s. 1966, to be exact. |
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Well, Pat, Jamarcus Russell could simultaneously hit a receiver running each of those routs. |
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A football post. Oh yeah! |
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Gabe, you are WAY off. JaMarcus Russell could simulataneously throw the ball to HIMSELF running all of those routes, eat the defender on him, and take one step into the endzone from his own 20. Haven't you heard that he's the greatest football player ever? He single-handedly beat Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl for cryin' out loud. |
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technically, the wheel rout turns up and is thrown to the outside shoulder of (typically) the running back - you may recognize it as a 'swing' or 'flare' route also. The circle is comparable to today's comback route, which is typically run from teh hash ending upt on the sideline -- Rhema ran it a lot to the weak side in 06. The delay is the modern day slant - the quick slant is represented by the look in. |
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JohnWA, I think you forgot to mention that Russell could do that all while sitting or from his knees. |
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After having not thought of Yelberton Abraham Tittle in a long time, that's twice I've seen Y.A.'s name mentioned in a few days: David Halberstam was on his way to interview him when he was killed in the auto crash in San Mateo. |
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Well, Pat, Jamarcus Russell could simultaneously hit a receiver running each of those routs. |
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CMC66- is that true? YA still the most famous qb pic of all time. Halberstam the type of writer I don't get close to in my dreams. |
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cool post. Being transported back to 60's football is always pleasant, especially when it involves a tufte-esqe nod to spartan information design. Here's a great graphic involving the 'out' route that didn't work out so good. (Napoleon's invasion of Russia in 1812 - french army strength plotted as width of the line on a map of the route... check out the temperature graph on the bottom following the retreat reading right to left. Harsh.) |
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Bill H.: Yes, he was writing a book about the breakthrough '58 NFL Title game (the crash was actually in Menlo Park ... San Mateo County coroner) and Y.A. was waiting for him. Tittle didn't play in that game; he was with the Niners until after the 1960 season, then went to the Giants. |
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It's not really whining that is going on about JaMarcus, it's simply making fun of the hype surrounding him. NFL GM's can and will draft whoever they want. Just as we can make fun of them for falling for what we perceive as ridiculous hype. The fact is that Brady was a four year starter, a Heisman trophy candidate for two straight years, led some tremendous comebacks with less talent surrounding him than LSU, and, while not as big as JaMarcus, is at least considered prototypical size for a NFL QB. If I remember correctly, despite his huge "upside" and size, JaMarcus sat behind a guy who isn't in the NFL, barely kept his starting job at one point, didn't look any better than Quinn against defenses stacked with NFL talent, and his one big claim to fame is that he tore up ND's secondary in his last collegiate game (and his numbers weren't as good as any number of other QB's against ND's secondary that will be going lower in the draft). |
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I don't see any whining about Jamarcus. I just think the hype has turned him into Bill Brasky. |
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ok, maybe whining is a little strong but most of the guys pimping Russell and Smith, and saying Quinn is overrated, are uninformed weekly columnists or hacks with a chip about the blue and gold. The draft specialists I've heard give him proper respect, and play it up as a debate between polish and physical potential. I got no problem with that analysis, and I know who I'd draft. |
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Listening to Pro Football Weekly tonight on some Chicago AM station, and while it was breaking up due to distance from Chicago, I heard one of the guys say that Jamarcus Russell is probably the biggest bust potentially out of all the top picks, and that Brady Quinn might be the best lock (including Calvin Johnson). I almost pulled myself over for a sobriety test. |
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Always a great ND site. |
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