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I think the football is scraping against a little grass there. |
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Check the SBT's gallery, their shot is a brief moment before this one, and it shows Grimes's hand is clearly underneath the ball. It wouldn't have changed positions in the split fraction of a second before this picture was shot. Touchdown. |
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Check out Grimes' face in the second shot of the Mercury News series of his catch. He has this great "Holy crap I caught it" look. |
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The announcer says that the Standford QB "really got leveled" on his throw. Was it Trevor Laws who got to him? Is his personal foul a result of a potential scuffle with an offensive lineman because of it, or did someone else hit the QB and maybe Trevor was held a lot or something on the play and took offense? |
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Laws wasn't the one who hit Pritchard. Laws and the lineman he was tied up with went down after the ball was gone, with Laws on top. As he was getting up, he pretty clearly leaned over and gave the guy an extra shot to the head with his right arm. Then he did it again. Who knows what the guy did that led up to it, but it was a personal foul. |
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Is it all over? Can I open my eyes now? |
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Could someone please let me know why Grimes's TD catch was nullified by the officials up in the booth? I'm still scratching my head on that call. |
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In response to a question on an earlier thread, here's what "going commando" refers to. |
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Really was a fun game to watch. We had 2nd row seats in the north end zone (just under the makeshift ND "band"), and yes, Grimes was robbed of an obvious touchdown. In fact, I don't remember a game with so many potentially game-changing reversals. It was almost comical by the end, though it would been anything but funny if we'd lost. |
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David won’t answer my text-messages, I sure would like to hear his take since he’s the ultimate source. |
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Here's to the horrible PA announcer at Stanford Stadium. If he wasn't the announcer, I would have enjoyed the game day experience about ten times more. Every time Stanford made a first down, it sounded like it was their first one ever. Ridiculous. |
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I don't think our band travels to Stanford as their band is currently forbidden on our campus. |
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creole is correct. |
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Just check their wiki page...the 1997 incident was during my freshman year and I remember a ton of outcry from other Catholic universities, including BC. |
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I also know our band does not travel to every away game, although they have traveled to quite a lot of games this year. There were a couple of years while I was there that they only went to two games, typically USC/Michigan, and MSU/Purdue. They had to cut way back on the number of games they went to due to financial reasons, but it's good to see them travelling more this year. |
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I was also surprised that the ND band didnt make the trip...is that the norm? I know usually visiting bands travel, howcome they werent there? |
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Anyone have a vid of the Grimes catch? |
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After watching the replay of the Trevor Laws personal foul, it seems the penalty occurred while the Hail Mary was in the air. Therefore, the correct call should have been Stanford's ball, 1st and 10 at the Notre Dame 26 with no time on the clock and one more play before halftime. Yet another blown call by the officiating crew... |
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Way off topic, but quite humorous, nonetheless. An entry posted at 9:29 a.m. EST today, Nov. 26, on the Rumor Mill at profootballtalk.com is titled: "Steve Beuerlein Decries 'USC Thugs'". It says this: |
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Sigmund, I haven't seen a really great replay, but my memory from the game was that the scuffle occured during the run back. If so, it would probably be treated the same as a block in the back or something like that. However, if it occurred during the throw, then you're right. |
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I believe it was Brian Smith that leveled Pritchard on the Hail Mary. |
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Erik, I believe that the half can't end on any penalty, it is just that usually on an offensive penalty, the defense would just decline it and the game would end. I am not sure though. |
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Thank you, Tom Zbikowski and the whole ND D. |
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Thanks for answering my question about the band. Although it was nice when I heard the fight song, to look up into the upper deck and see an alumni band. It felt to me like they gave both the crowd and the team an emotional boost when they played. |
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Eric, if the play occured after the interception then ND becomes the offense, if the penalty is declined touchdown. I hate that Laws was the culprit, I am surprised that was the one time they didnt call off setting penalties. It really was a thing of beauty though. |
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Walls has some wheels. Nice improvised blocking by everybody, too. No illegal ones. |
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Joe, |
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Replays continue to kill us this year. The BC game is another example of officials managing the outcome when they replayed the ball spot and took away a first down prior to the TD that was wiped out because of a questionable hold. |
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The ND band (I play trombone) went to three of the five away games this year, PSU, UM, and Purdue. We would have gone to a bowl game as well. |
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Matt - you're not the only one hoping for that to happen! |
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How does Laws get that PF called on him during a live play? He shoved someone in the back while they were on the ground? Didn't the guy just tackle him? If it was a dead ball I could see it maybe but not during a live play. |
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I see. |
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Does anyone have a video clip of David Grimes catch? None of the espn video recaps showed it, and I'm having a hard time explaining how bad the call was to my friends who had the (mis?)fortune of not seeing the game. |
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LAWS WAS TAKEN TO THE GROUND WITH A FACEMASK! |
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Does anyone have a count of how many touchdowns Zibby has had called back? Ohio State fumble. Punt return MSU last year, Saturday's game against the refs. |
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Someone from ND Nation filmed their TV while showing Grimes' catch and the replays. Can be found here: |
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Oh man, I'd forgotten that the back judge was standing right there in perfect position to make that call. Pefect Position. He wasn't running to catch up with the play, he wasn't blocked by any players, he was right there leaning in to make the call. He didn't even hesitate, instant TD signal. What a jip. Great play. |
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Who IS that Irish fan wearing the Brady Quinn green jersey? |
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There is a picture in today's Observer showing a different angle of David Grimes' catch (best one) that clearly shows he had his hand underneath the tip of the ball. |
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nd17 - is that picture available on the website? i haven't been able to find any pictures accompanying articles. am i missing a link or something? |
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I just picked up the Observer on campus so I haven't seen it on the website. I will try to scan it sometime if I can't find it online. |
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Is there a normal "routine" for the offseason? Does Charlie do press conferences, etc? |
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And on a side note…someone just posted two pics of Mike Anello in the restroom where I work. How very odd… |
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Mike Anello had another great punt cover on Saturday, sticking the returner as soon as he caught the ball. Is he coming back next year? |
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Off subject, but are you guys doing a top 10 most painful plays of the season? I vote for Hazelton making Irish DBs look like Keystone Kops. History could dull some pain here and help with closure. |
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Just to let you all know, the picture is not on the Observer's website, so if I have time soon I will scan it and send it to BGS. |
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Is there a normal "routine" for the offseason? Does Charlie do press conferences, etc? |
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Joe Subway |
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We entered this year with many unknowns at most positions but going into next season we will know a little bit more about our team. Maybe a little early for next year's evaluation, but what else do we have to look forward to? These are my grades for each group as I see them at the start of next year along with comments. |
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^ |
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Erik, at least part of the band traveled to USC last year, although I think it was at the behest of Weis. |
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anybody else notice how fast walls is - he didn't even look like he was at full speed |
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Thanks for the info on the press conference, DJ. I appreciate it! |
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The video is no longer available. This calls for an emoticon :( |
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Any idea who will take over the punt returning duties next year? Walls could probably do it. West might be the guy, or Armando or Tate. Is punt returning that much different from Kickoff returning? Gotta call fair catches I suppose, and you don't have as much time to get a lane as you do on kickoffs. |
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Probably the aspect that makes returning punts and returning kicks so much different is the window that the returner has to catch the ball. Ball security is the most important part of a punt return so that's why it is favorable to have an experienced player catching punts. |
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"Ball security is the most important part of a punt return so that's why it is favorable to have an experienced player catching punts." |
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One guy I am dying to see get some action is Harrison Smith. Why was he redshirted anyway? |
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Anybody hear if Crum wants to return for a 5th year? I hope so. |
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I heard a few weeks ago that Mo Crum is indeed coming back for a 5th year. |
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The dude in the green BQ jersey showed "rightous indignation", but you should have heard the Italian guy two rows behind us; my Italian isn't great, but I understand enough unprintables to know that he spent a five full cathartic minutes exhausting his repertoire of insults against the officials, while the Palo Alto sheriffs and the stadium security guys could only muse that they "knew" what he was saying but couldn't toss him from the stadium. |
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article on concussions over on the NYtimes - it sounds like Standford's QB was in fact concussed. Harb doesn't come off well at all in the article. |
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I was pretty shocked when he came back in the game. The announcer seemed upset also. |
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so what do we do without college football now? |
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I think the worst part about putting the injured QB back into the game, is that Harbough was potentially risking the kid's life (at worst) just for the opportunity to win a pretty meaningless game. A win is a win, but it's not like it was the national championship game, and he had another QB (albeit 3rd string). It just seemed like an unnecessary risk to the young man without any reasonable reward. |
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Kyle, I don't know. I just don't know. I've tried following the Michigan coaching search over on mgoblog. That was fun for a while -- especially when they were certain they were hiring Ferentz and all the silly Wolverines stepped out onto the ledge. But, now there's a calm as they seem to be pretty certain they're getting Miles. If Miles pulls an Urban, it'll get fun over there again. |
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Or, you can get Rock Band on the Xbox 360. SWEEEEEEET!!!! |
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