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Anyone got an online game feed? Doesn't seem to be up on channelsurfing.net. |
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Final home game....I feel sad. |
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No Green? I thought I heard the team was wearing green. |
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hoping we get a GameDay photo........ |
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No green jerseys? could have sworn they were going to come out in them. |
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Len, Hopefully Charlie learned to use the green a bit more sparingly after last year! |
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Agreed, DenverIrish - Don't over use the green jersey's...could have come out in black...aka ND BB uniform |
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I'd agree sparingly. I think we have overall a losing record with them. As you recall, it all started when Dan Devine (some have said at the instigation of Digger Phelps, though he has denied it - kinda) wanted to shake up the team after 5 consecutive losses to USC - sadly, a record at the time but not now. The grrnies were a surprise - the team came out for warm-ups in blue and found the green jersies waiting in the locker room. We ended up winning 49-19 - the next couple of times, they also sued the green as a surprise - never annonced as they seem to now. I'd say once a decade or so is enough. |
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Go Irish! This should cheer us all on! |
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This season has flown by, wish it was August again... ahh such is youth |
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James, |
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Bad start. |
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Was he trying not to block that guy?? |
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I agree but I always like the optimism of summer |
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Anello is just plain awesome. |
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I wish we could put his heart in some of our other players' bodies! |
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We can't run for 2 yards? |
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woooooo! a field goal! |
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you would think JC is only 5'6" with all of the passes that get tipped |
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Wow, another kick off to the 10 yard line... |
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We need to recruit kickers |
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If this game is even close I'm gonna be furious |
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Is this Crum's 10th year playing for the Irish? |
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Do we have any players who have a shot of going pro this year? Bruton and Mr Mohawk? |
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cricket...cricket... |
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Thats what I was wondering. Maybe its too cold for football. |
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Thinking the same thing Nate. |
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Yea its Crum's 10th year, and he still isn't any good |
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nice escape |
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Its not that Crum is bad. He's just not very good. |
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Wake me when this game gets going. |
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Brutal. |
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flat |
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Well said DayBreak. We are a sad team. There's nothing else to say. |
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This is embarrassing. USC beats us by 40. |
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Horrible 4th down play calling |
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Going to start drinking. |
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I meant on the board...as there is no online feed (anyone??!?) I can't see the game. |
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Hey now, Walker has been kicking much better of late so let's narrow down our focus on the kicking game. |
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"We're going to pound it"....sure thing coach |
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duval is just jogging on his routes |
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WTF WAS THAT? No one within 20 yards! |
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NC State just woodshedding Carolina...pretty sad. |
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Not talking about field goals knoxville. How about every kickoff being caught at the ten yard line and returned to 30. We give away great field possession every time. |
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Hey our kicker still sucks and cannot be relied on a pressure situation. |
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Then again we may only kickoff one more time this game, the way this is going. |
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At least we have a kickers coming in the next class. |
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"softer than baked brie" - love that one Nate! |
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I think that's my favorite Schawb commercial. |
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Syracuse, First Time Out. Is somebody counting this time? |
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3-0 first quarter! Wow! If we can only keep it up, we'll beat one of the worst teams in the country 12-0! |
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Thanks for jinxing us Jimk |
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cancel that last post of mine. Looks like OT. |
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sorry vicP!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Jim K., I hope we get an overtime. |
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"Hey our kicker still sucks and cannot be relied on a pressure situation." |
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When Weis goes for it on 4th down, no one is ever surprised, and it is generally a run by Aldrich. Yuck!!! |
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107th ranked pass defense, and we refuse to pass the ball. If we have so little confidence in Jimmy and he's in such a funk, why don't we bench him? |
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I agree he's doing better now but do any of you honestly have any faith in him? From 40+? I know I don't |
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Well, so much for having at least one laugher this season. |
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maybe after 4-5 more years of improvements under Weis we'll be able to move the ball like Syracuse and other offensive juggernauts. |
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What is wrong with Clausen? Any thoughts?? |
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At least Alex Flannigan is hot. She makes me need to go to confession |
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obie! LOL!!!!!!!!!! |
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But Trevor FG's are part of the kicking game. I completely agree with the fustration concerning the KO's and the punting game. I just happen to think that Walker is on a hot streak after a sorry, sorry start to the season and I would not include him in the same category as Maust and Burkhart at this point. |
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Maybe we SHOULD have worn the green jerseys. |
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I cannot wait to see the spread for the USC game. |
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Thank God Charlie Weis is calling the plays!!! |
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THANKS PAT for the Gameday Photo! |
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Under the right set of circumstances, i.e., wind direction, temperatures (cold does have an effect on the kick)yes I would not hesitate to put Walker out there right now. |
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Great coverage on the punt...by one player #27. |
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4th and 2 6 men on the line of scrimmage--haven`t been able to run the whole quarter and Charley runs the ball.UNBELIEVABLE |
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good question tednict about JC...he seems to be regressing again. This Syracuse team is worse on D than even Purdue. Offensive line regressing, running game regressing....I'd start the "should we buy out now or later" discussion - except our kicker is getting better. |
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Wow. Our defense is terrible. |
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I can't wait for next year, when we improve to 7-5. Long live Charlie Weis! |
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What is that "ole" bullcrap I just saw by our defense?? |
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I'll give $50 to anyone who can tell me how this team is better than the one we saw at the end of 2007 ... |
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How many 23 yd. strikes has JC had this game...like the one Cuse just got. |
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that is a down where tenuta needs to get us a sack |
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I think Charlie ate the team's mojo. |
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Denverirish - as someone said last week here - our competition is weaker. Uh, does that make us better? let's see..... |
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John, we're certainly worse than we were earlier THIS year. What the heck happened between the UW game and now? |
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Nate - like I said, Charlie ate their mojo. |
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I'd say this was a boring game, but since we apparently have a real genuine chance of not winning...I will refrain. |
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^ We haven't played Willingham |
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what a dumbass joke about bailey |
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This is pathetic! WE ARE TERRIBLE |
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John, Intermittent suckiness always trumps constant suckiness. That, plus 6 wins against teams we SHOULD beat, instead of 3. I know it's lame, but you've gotta hold onto some aspect of hope! |
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3rd and sad |
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Are we the only team in D-I who can send 7 and not get any pressure? |
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Gimme a reason why I should watch this game and potentially get upset for the rest of the weekend. |
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Man, like where is this Syracuse team ranked? 8th or 10th? great passing game....they can run...what bowl are they going to? |
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If I was Swarbrick, I'd be setting up a meeting with Congress for next week to get some of that bailout money to buy out Weis's contract. |
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Why are we making Syracuse look like USC? Next week is going to be so much fun... |
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Sorry DenverIrish, but since midseason the suckiness has been at least as constant as it was last year ... |
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Obediah: AWESOME! |
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I plan to be blacked out WELL before the USC game. |
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We are being outgained 2 to 1 by SYRACUSE...and about to be outscored...is this real? am I awake? sane? sober? a drug-induced flashback perhaps? |
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Got to make that pic. |
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i'm not a betting man but i almost put some dollars on that 21-point line (Cuse dog). |
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How do you not get the pick there? |
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Carroll should be able to play his #3 and 4 teams next Sat. |
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Do we have to play USC this year...can't we just not show up? |
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is this considered progress? why is their walk on QB outplaying our limo riding NFL lock |
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What is with the NBC coverage? I switched from watching the skunkbears get skunked and it looks like 20 years ago. What terrible cameras, angles, etc. Matches our performance so far! |
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Other than Weis, are there other problems on the team? This is totally unreal. |
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uh,belocki - answer: Notre Dame bloodline, maybe? |
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Anyone find it interesting that a team that plays in a dome is outplaying us in the snow? |
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They are horrible! If you think they have improved from last year you need therapy! |
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Do the players think the game starts tomorrow? |
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Now we are behind. Wonderful. Is it time for Sharpley....or Montana? |
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this is going to get ugly when we have our mandatory second half collapse |
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Put in Montana. |
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I was on the 'not fire Weis' side of the fence, but I've jumped over. If losing to 'Cuse makes it happen, then let's lose to Cuse. |
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time to bring the magic back, tednict. bring in montana. |
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Michael, I was also aopposed to dumping Weis, but now I agree with you. |
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I came here for apoplectic comments and I leave satisfied. |
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Someone competent would, Michael. But no way in hades we get anyone competent if we fire Weis right now. |
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All I Know is Charlie's last three recruiting classes were in the top 11. There are no excuses for not having the talent. This is all coaching, and I'm really not surprised by any of this right now. |
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That's nitpicking, Nate. |
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Nate, does that extend to after the USC game? |
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If by some mischance we actually do lose to a team that was featured on ESPN as the most troubled program in the country, the once proud Orangemen etc....can Swarbrick or anyone else justify not doing something about Weis? |
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FIRE WEIS - HIRE GREG ROBINSON! (He's available) |
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May be nitpicking, but you're not going to get anyone much better than Weis. No one wants to come to ND anymore to coach, especially we've got the reputation for dumping a guy if he doesn't get us to the NC right away. |
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HIRE GREG ROBINSON! (He's available) |
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JimK - Based on this years performances, I wouldn't be happy with a 9-3 record next year. A loss to USC, and one of Pitt/BC/MSU would be a good year. Losing to two of those three wouldn't be much improvement in my book. |
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jimmy : you suck!!!! way too mechanical |
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On an unrelated subject, what's up with the helmet paint. Seems to be chipping much more easily this year than in years past... |
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WHO CARES about the friggin paint? |
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Nate, that was a joke. Lighten up. |
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need a big 3rd down play |
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Notre Dame, |
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Me. |
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Maybe this wouldn't be as depressing if it weren't for our "great" recruiting classes. |
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this is some serious decided schematic advantage |
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Turf, I think it's Weis' fault. |
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alright FINE. |
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Lighten up? I didn't see anything in my response that needed "lightening up", but okay. |
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Wow, I believe that was, um, past 40 yards, don't you think? I don't have my slide-rule, but I believe he just did what many of you said he couldn't. |
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Bravo VicPaul. |
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you see coaches all day long who can manage a game and players all day long that make plays. we cant do either. |
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11 out of 12 and this one from 45 yards....yes I have confidence in our FG kicker. Much more confidence than I have in our Head Coach and QB at this moment. |
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as colin cowherd says, "South Bend Indiana is the bermuda triangle of college football. it's where blue-chip recruits dissapear into oblivion" |
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Davie,TY, and Weiss are all in the same league as coaches |
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We are making the Orange look like SDSU. |
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Ya, cause Floyd is terrible. Give me a break. |
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This is the most predictable offense I've ever seen! I don't think the offense has passed the ball when Clausen has been under center, or ran the ball when in shotgun. Pathetic play calling by Weis. No wonder the Syracuse defense looks so good. |
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Nate, again, relax. The fact that you responded to it with something besides a joke in return is why I suggested lightening up. |
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Nice, Jacque |
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obediah - we've already lost 6 in a row to USC - the game is in South Bend next year. If Weis can't win once with the allegedly great recruits - dymp him. Nate - for any respectable experience CFB head coach. Weis will NEVER be better than adequate - or rather mediocre. If there were any genius there - any Tressel or Stoops or Carroll - it would have surfaced somehow by now, at least as a glimmer. It hasn't. |
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What's wrong with the fans at the game (besides they are cold)? Not a sound except when Syacuse does something. I want Boo's - its not like ND doesn't deserve it. |
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They booed on the last series |
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ColoradoIrish...Cowherd has also expressed doubt about the blue-chippiness of our guys, questioning the accuracy or Rivals.com et al. |
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People here listen to Cowherd? |
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Could 'Cuse do the same thing to Weis that they did to Willingham? If ND loses this game and he doesn't get canned after next week's blowout, I'll be shocked. |
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I agree with you JimK. I put no stock in the other recruiting websites. ESPN consistently has us ranked lower than the other websites, they know what they're talking about. |
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Michael, again, you're "lighten up" is having the opposite effect. I don't need to lighten up--we're talking about firing coaches, hiring coaches, and I'm commenting. I'm not directing anything personal at you, nor am I taking anything from you personally--so lighten up on the "lighten up", man. It's not making sense. |
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F&%K |
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The team ranked 117th in 3rd down conversions has converted 4 in a row. |
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Start the coach search now. It is painfully obvious that CW is not cut out for this. |
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We won't fire Weis. there are no coaches out there who would be willing to come here. |
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we're gonna ride Weis out until Urban Meyer is available again |
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Right now I'd take Mike Riley from oregon state over weis. The guy has beaten USC 2 out of the last 3 years, and done pretty well with absolutely nothing in terms of good players. |
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The Citadel can score 13 on Florida, but we can't against Cuse... |
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fulmer is available! ha! i had to say this being from TN |
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why on earth did i bet the irish to cover this game? |
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So we have a return set-up when the punter fumbles the snap and we don't get a shot at a block. Okay, but then we don't get a return and the ball rolls inside our 20? |
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Trevor: OSU has the two Rogers kids who are both more dynamic as playmakers than anyone we have save maybe Golden Tate. |
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9 seconds left...qb sneak!!!! |
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wow...what a play. looked like offensive pass interference by tate |
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about frigging time |
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that is more like it |
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I knew it was a good idea to bet the Irish to cover! |
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Looked like interference but not worth calling. |
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That kind of crap doesn't work against good teams. Which is why we always lose to them. |
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looked like a push off to me |
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Good enough for you all???? |
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good enough? F no! we should be up by 20 points. Not just barely hanging on. |
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nope, not nearly good enough. |
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Colorado, that was funny |
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I blame this season on RON POWLUS! THE CURSE OF NOTRE DAME! HE STARTED OUR SUCK AND IS ADDING TO IT AGAIN |
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VicPaul: |
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40 seconds, 70 yards TD. Not the best half but a damn good final drive. |
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I hadn't heard that Floyd is also out for USC. tate will be a great jr./sr. receiver...but Floyd is THE ONLY PLAYER on our whole team who canmatch up to USC's team speed on defense. he is also out only offensive player who could make their 2 deep on offense (maybe Tate on 2nd team)...and this is SC's weakest offense in several years. |
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I'm guessing VicPaul was being facetious... |
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keep it up ... I am here in germany and living vicariously through your eyes and reactions. Any java programmers out there who can help me with my homework? |
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After that drive, finally JC looked sharp...so did the Irish. No damn rushing. We have a passing attack. Does it take a genius to see that. |
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DayBreakBoys: You sir, are 100% correct. |
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tednict - maybe not terrible in the last 38 secs, but a ways from good, I'd say. That Orange DB made a really bad defensive play. Against a good team (like, uh, say USC) that TDP is an INT. |
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Who is Jimmy Roberts' fashion advisor? He looks like Bozo the clown, or something in a Norman Rockwell painting! |
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Powlus is a black cat walking under a ladder in front of a cracked mirror that is reflecting the number 13 on a tipped salt shaker. |
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Right Nate, but in accordance with the precedent you've set, it's totally okay to respond to sarcasm with a serious comment. |
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I don't believe it was pass interference on Tate - the 'Cuse DB didn't even react. |
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glad to see the students and players are meshing well together. |
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adrian peterson...there's an articulate fellow |
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Oh, we'll be in a bowl game, most likely the Gator, but possibly the Brut Sun. As much as I love ND, and as much as I hate seeing us lose another bowl-game, I have to admit that we are one of the biggest reasons to push for a playoff system. If we had a playoff, I (we) wouldn't have to hear my friends state the obvious...that we don't belong in a bowl yet. The fact that the Gator is seriously considering us just because we travel and watch well, and have a "strong relationship" with them, is not good enough, and makes us look weaker as a football program! |
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in more embarrassing news, did you see michigan players and coaches fighting on the sideline with each other during the game? plyers pushing each other and back at coaches |
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Well, to be fair, the fans were only trying to wake the guys the hell up. |
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Yes, Voice, but Powlus is OURS. He gets it. |
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Joe, what is an Alouette? |
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Coach Weis is sure out-scheming this about to be unemployed, 2-8, Syracuse Coach |
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Joe, love the Grey Cup talk. Got my ribs all ready for the game. Go Stamps! |
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Boy, nothing like The Undertones to boost ND football fans' moods on a day like today! |
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Can we get a pick at all? |
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I just got back from ND selling programs for a school group. Alright let's turn on the game...dum de dum... |
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He is the greatest. |
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Wow. |
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holy incompetence batman |
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2nd and 37 - manageable |
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Why the hell can't we pick up pass-rushers??! |
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correction, 2nd and 47 |
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are these BE refs |
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we should just punt now |
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Run a draw! |
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missed the damn horsecollar tackle |
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2nd and 47, HOT. |
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you should not be allowed to paint your face like grimes when you suck as a team |
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This isn't real, right? I have mistakenly tuned into the Toon channel and am watching a satire of a Notre Dame football game. |
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Turf - a direct snap draw! |
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bizarro ND game.... |
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ok, charlie has white stuff coming out of his mouth and yellow stuff coming out of his nose |
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At least we're winning the field position battle. |
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That's Jimmy's best pass! The throwaway! H seldom misses that one - only one PIC on that one all year, I think. |
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Syracuse's best defense is our offense. |
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We must be saving that for the next drive obediah. |
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"ice Weiss" as a new slogan anyone? |
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I never missed even a single game when I was a student at ND, but never heard the crowd booed their own team. It's pathetic and sickening. |
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Mike- |
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Do are DB's practise catching balls? |
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Has anyone on the broadcast addressed the question of why Adrian Dantley's son isn't at ND? |
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Mike, I heard it plenty during the Davie years. What made it worse is when some of my fellow students would boo the team at the end while coming to our corner raising their helmets high. Boo a coach who isn't performing well, fine, but NEVER boo your team who is living and breathing football for you! |
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I was in the stadium for the last 2 senior days. Luckily, we skipped this year because of a new baby. Sadly, I can't remember any games this year where I sat at the TV wishing I could be in the stadium. |
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Mike, maybe their saying HUGHES. |
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KICK THE FIELD GOAL, NOW!!!!! |
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Can we NOT lose 40 yards this series? |
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What, No holding call? |
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I know I've said it before, and I know he's not Hispanic, but, "Arrrrrrmondo!!" |
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Please forgive me, I had things to do this afternoon and felt that, if ever there was an ND game I could feel comfortable missing know that they would win, this was it. So could one of kind souls explain to me exactly how in the name of any deity you wish to name the Irish only have a three point lead at home against Syracuse? |
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that Vonage ad sucks...so does the Xerox ad |
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Burning an unnecessary TO early in the quarter - JC's other consistently good play after the throwaway pass... |
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harris, if we told you, you would think we were making it up! |
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Harris: |
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Well, Harris, the short version is that we continue to regress and have made Syracuse look like world beaters. |
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OK Charlie. Time to bring the4 second team on. We have the lead. Come on Charlie. |
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@ motovatin: Humor me. |
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That was a catch for Navy last week. |
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I think that was a TD |
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It's a touchdown! They gave that one to Navy last week |
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if navy catch was a catch, this is a catch |
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Wouldn't that have been great instant-analysis by the clowns officiating the Navy game? Still would've been a win, but not quite as angina-inspiring! |
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it looks just like the navy one, you are right, mike |
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The big toe touched first and was in bounds, so following the precedent set last week, it doesn't matter that his little toe and then heel came down on the line. |
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or not. |
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toe-heel MF's! i just learned it last week! |
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2 drives in a row from inside 25 and cant score. pathetic |
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You have GOT to be freaking kidding. |
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Jesus, what the hell, Charlie? This is pathetic. |
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harris, that kind of sums up the game |
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start throwing snowballs again. this team is horrible |
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ugh |
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I'd say at this point "tragic" or even better "catastrophic" fits more than "pathetic." |
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2 blocked punts inside the 30 and no points. I hate everything right now. |
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I think "apathetic" is probably the best description. These guys are playing like they don't care. |
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How about cromulant? |
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Bad football team? Or Worst. Football Team. Ever? |
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his heel didnt come down |
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DagerOne, except for Anello and a few others, I believe you are correct. I know this will be laughed at, but is the problem Weis or is it deeper and perhaps uglier? |
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Uglier than Weis? realm of possibility? |
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alluding to CW's job performance, not his appearance. |
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Hopefully our defense can score, otherwise we are gonna lose. |
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what do you mean? uglier? explain |
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Swarbrick will have to really think about his evaluation of the football program. |
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9 minimum |
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I've noticed that Herring is on the field a lot, is Kyle McCarthy injured? |
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Remember when 9-3 wasn't good enough. |
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Belocki, I am not sure...just suggesting an idea without any basis. I know that is wrong, but I am really torn by what we are seeing today. |
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I mean that I have never seen two years of "uglier" less competent coaching, devoid completely of motivation, instruction, strategy, or any other positive quality. |
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7-5 was my lowball estimate for this year, though I didn't expect them to struggle with Syracuse to get seven wins. I'd say that won't get it done next year, but churning coaches is no way to build a program. |
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Anything under 9 wins next year is completely unacceptable. |
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tednict - |
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This is the most boring football game I have ever watched. |
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ok 10 |
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What's the over/under on number of plays until our next false start penalty? |
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JimK, Do you remember year after year of run down the middle on first for short, run down the middle on second for short, pass incomplete for long on third, punt?? That was most of what I saw under Davie and Willingham. The difference is that the special teams, and the defense, in those years caused a helluva lot of turnovers that we were able to take advantage of. |
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ok, why roll left and throw and out to right side of field? |
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Harris, I totally agree with you, and that is why I have supported Weis...until today. Now I am totally uncertain and disillusioned. This really hurts. |
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Why would the Gator or Cotton want us? |
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I'm not convinced they should pencil in wins for Nevada, Navy, Stanford or UConn. |
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arrrrrrghhhhh |
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3rd and 1 stuffed again, atta way boys! |
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Agree DenverIrish - saying that CW is worse than that is a mouthful. But consider - CW has had his share of predictable game plans, and Anello and some other ST stuff has indeed saved us somewhat at times this year. |
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Vic, Exactly the reasons I wrote before. All they care about is butts in the seats and people watching at home. They know that with even a poor-to-mediocre ND team (like we have now), they will get both. Thus, the reason I get crap from my non-ND friends, and the reason a playoff would be the best option for us! |
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The only reason Chuckie should get another year is if Swarbrick doesn't have an adequate replacement |
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Nice!!!!! |
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We should just do that every play... |
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What a pass by JC. Quit running the damn football Charlie...except when absolutely necessary. That was nice. |
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Harris - we're not making predictions, we're setting the cutoff of what Weiss needs to do to keep his job and keep/regain our support. |
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Nice indeed - we should have been able to do that all day today. |
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Note again on replay - really bad defense. Have we all seen, uh, USC's LB/DBs? |
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If Michigan fires DickRod after one season, they don't deserve to ever win another game. Besides, why would Meyer leave Florida? Recruiting is a breeze, the weather is great, there are half-naked Florida girls running around all year, the facilities are absolutely top-notch and they're willing to pay him whatever nonsensical number he can come up with. |
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Jim K., you are right on target. I get so tired of the running plays when we have a great passing game even without M. Floyd. |
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Can you believe what just happened. A great fumble recovery and a run to put it deep. |
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Hey, I'm with you. I'm just saying they could lose any of those games. The team that showed up today could lose all of them. |
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nice turn, let's score. |
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How do you miss that facemask? |
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That comment was to obediah, btw. |
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Throw the fade,,, |
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Just as I talk about defense and special teams turnovers........ |
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Harris - agreed 100% |
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What is the one change this team MUST make in the off-season? I'm thinking offensive line coach. Though Jimmy is sure making me wonder what Crist can do. |
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Terrible route by Grimes. |
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1st and goal from 6 yard line and we have to settle for field goal...........wow all I can say is wow. |
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IMHO - we'd have to be so desperate for a return to the elite to shake hands with the devil and go after Meyer under any circumstance. |
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Anyone else think Grimes was doing "the robot" in slow-mo? |
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decided schematic advantage! kiss my arse charlie |
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At least Clausen doesn't look happy... |
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Meyer's players have had 20+ arrests since he's been at UF. |
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Will we ever have a kicker that can put it in the endzone on kickoffs? |
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Bye Bye Lambert...Thank God. |
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Eternal - |
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lol.....I googled it they call it a touchback! |
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Touch - something obie? touch down? touch play? touch...what? |
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Remember that kick that went to the 8 yard line. Man that was cool. |
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@Eternal optimist turned Realis: Well, Hentrich graduated 15 years ago, so maybe in the next five years or so unless Reggie Ho has a little brother. |
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we're losing viewrship here down to 56 from a high of 61..wonder why.. |
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We do not need Urban the Liar. If he wants to be at Mich., it will be to have the opportunity to crap on ND once a year. There are other coaches of quality without dipping into the cesspool. |
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Michael, sorry no reply--was off the board for a while. Lighten up, man. |
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In the Wildcat, why do they even bother having the QB out there? |
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Touchback rings a bell. |
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Boy. Hope we don't need a timout later... |
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timeout...damnit |
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Who is better than UM that wants to come to ND? Name one. |
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How much does anyone think we could get Mike Leach for? Personally, I'd love to see some pirate flags in the student section. |
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What the hell are nugnuts? A chicken nugget nugget? When will McDonalds quit screwing with food? |
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+1 Obediah..."Holtz the 1st"....nice. |
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Vic, I suppose for the illusion of a reverse? I know the coaches have a lot on their plates planning for each game, but you would think it wouldn't be hard to find out whether a RB, FB, etc. has EVER thrown a pass in their careers. If not, then SEND EVERYONE at him!! I have no idea why the Wildcat ever works! |
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Nothing beats the Mc Rib |
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Good afternoon, all. An uninspiring effort so far. |
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Oh, God. Don't say Leach. I'll pleasure myself until I pass out. It'll never happen, but just the thought of Leach at ND makes me all tingly. |
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Yeah Vic,nothing like fake rib meat covered in bbq sauce! |
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Denver, I have always felt the same. It started out as a vehicle to just give Manchild (Darren McFadden) the ball and get out of his way. Now everyone does it. Unless you've got a McFadden, it SHOULD NOT WORK. But it does...unless we try it. |
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since Syracuse hasn't scored in the fourth all season, guess we have THAT to look forward to |
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Wow, where eas the defense on that one? |
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hey, that's the thing I was talking about! |
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Boo. |
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I don't want Leach any more, I want Muschamp. He'd terrorize them into tackling. |
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Tednacht...concerned about UM as the face of ND football... I would take his face over than CW's as the face of ND football - both figuratively and literally. There is a lot to be said for competence...BTW SU just scored its first fourth quarter TD in 7 games.... says it all.... |
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So we are one bad play from being down in the fourth to Syracuse. |
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Every game this year, when it looks like we're about to run away with the game, we let the other team back in. We're just not usually as prompt as this. |
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Up until last week I thought Charlie just needed some time. What I now realize is that he needed some seasoning...salt, pepper...a little tabasco... |
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Did Charlie put the subs in? |
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We should hire Greg Robinson, I hear he's available. |
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Anyone know where Tom Clements is these days? |
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What advantage does Clements bring that Weis didn't have? Alum? check. NFL Offensive Coord? Check. Been there... |
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we should pick up that guy from washington.. hes now available |
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Why isn't Robert Hughes playing today? |
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Syracuse is fire up ... Clausen better move the ball or this can get ugly |
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Anyone surprised at the sack? |
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amazing that Syracuse can win this game outright. a 20 point dog |
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Len, this just got ugly. |
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SPT - that was my comment about the face of ND fball - but I'd rather have neither CW or UM. |
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I swear, between the Irish and the Phiadelphia Eagles I am coming to hate this game. |
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Let's go Defense...make a stand, then try to run the ball.. |
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3-13 on 3rd down. That's disgusting. |
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I'd say our O was flaccid rather than orange defense stout. |
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Navy all over again. |
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Now THAT's some good defense, gentlemen! |
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Good defensive series there. Now, the offense really needs a few first downs to reverse field position. |
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I hear they're being hired as a group to coach Washington. |
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Our best D is the opp dropsy. Sigh. |
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Aaaaaand it's coming back. |
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JimK.. IMO ND needs a proven product at the highest levels as it no longer has the luxury of whiffing as it has done the last 3 times.... |
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damn..holding |
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let me guess...hold or illegal block? |
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Must we screen on almost every offensive play? |
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Solich would seem an obvious choice, but he hasn't done anything at Ohio. |
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back to back screens to the same side of the field. robot genius or robot predictability? |
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Holy Wide Open Batman |
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Makes up for that hold and a good downfield block by Tate. |
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STP - I'd agree but will echo other comments - who'd do it? Let's say we could get pete carroll. Would he ever be the "face of ND football"? Take Saban. Will his sojourn at LSU simply be a footnote to a HOF career at Alabama (if he were successful)? I think we need a proven HC not of that stripe - that we'd make a legend, not buy one. Like Ara. or lou. |
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Arrrrrrrrmondo!! |
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Maybe there is something positive we can take from this. |
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the answer is UM. The argument is here: |
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Hell, if it was that easy, every team would hire a legendary coach. Legends are in short supply. |
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good D by Tate. |
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Any thoughts on how bad the USC game will be? I am thinking along the lines of Miami embarrassing us in Faust's last game... |
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Yeah, the USC game is just going to be ugly. Impossible to predict, though. |
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I'd go for it before attempting a 49 yarder. |
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First of all, why would UM even think of changing now, with the situation he has? He has a real QB. Second, he wants to mess with the grade situation, an absolute NO no matter who wants to be the coach. |
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USC will be favored by 30+ and they will cover |
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$emi-pro$ by 35+ |
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Reminder. We're out of time outs |
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And they give up seven yards of field position attempting that crap. Gah. |
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or is it times out? |
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aquajock...read this |
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After today's performance running the ball...any doubts at all that Latina and Mendoza need to go? |
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Unbelieveable that I'm nervous in the last few minutes of the Syracuse game. |
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Latina has needed to go for 3 years. |
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Not just this game. This year in general. I don't think I have ever seen a ND team in back to back years looks so utterly inept in running the ball. |
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Great article and find, Coloirish. That explains why he would want to come here. My own objections remain, though. Fool me once... |
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We haven't had good o-line play since Davie fired Joe Moore. |
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I am absolutely dumbfounded that Latina survived last season! I thought the O-line made some early season improvements, but they are showing signs on numerous occasions of horrible coaching!! |
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This is trouble |
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We are one score from losing to Syracuse. Would have been non-tragic in 1961. |
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It's horrible, but I just realized I don't care if we win or not. It's already a loss by any reasonable standard for ND football. |
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Big third down coming |
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Can the staff be charged for stealing salaries? This is worse than Wall St. robbers. |
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Come on, defense! Reach back and find something! |
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I can understand struggling to stop the run against a team that passes well, but Syracuse can't pass for shit. Why can't ND put nine men in the box and dare them to put the ball in the air? |
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BS!!!!!!!!! |
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If we lose this - and the idea that we might lose to Syracuse makes me sick to my stomach, but if we do - does Charlie step down? We can't fire him, the contract sees to that, but maybe he'd be embarrassed enough to do it himself and save the school he loves more pain. |
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We're gonna need more scotch |
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Just read that urban article. If I had the money, I would buy Charlie out yesterday and Urban would be there tomorrow. I've had it. |
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Charlie has too much of an ego to step down. If he loses...he should. |
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Charlie will never step down...ND will just have to eat the salary... |
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this could be ugly |
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This team sucks from top to bottom. There has been no improvement since last year. |
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could be? it IS...even if we win... |
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Never thought the no TO 's thing would come back to bite us. |
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uglier |
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I have a really bad feeling about this... |
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Not enough beer for this one...holy cow! They are driving! |
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whew... |
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bogus call |
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saved for the moment by an opponent's penalty...sheesh...no TOs...I was going to mention that earlier... |
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Doing double shots of Grand Marnier to cope with this one...I remember when being a Notre Dame fan used to be fun. My liver was much healthier as well. |
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Charlie - quit listening to Charlie jr and coach! |
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What's embarrassing is hearing Haden trying to make excuses for us... |
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I predict ND wins and cw hangs on long enough to be blown out in the Gator Bowl. |
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It's like a trainwreck, I want to look away.. |
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Any other team and any other day, I'd say 'Cuse has to run on 3rd-and-8. Today? Hell no |
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anyone else notice Raeshon McNeill has an upside down US flag on his helmet? Think that's an accident or a statement? |
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Please fire everybody but Tenuta, please fire everybody but Tenuta . . . . . |
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! |
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FUGG |
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there it is. I'm done. I can't take this crap anymore. |
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wow i have no words |
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And nothing less than they fucking deserve. Goddamn. |
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man |
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Hey so what do you guys think about the basketball team this year? Elite 8, final four? |
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Dantley looked the D off well...JC never does. |
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There are players on that team that don't deserve that humiliation. |
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embarrassing doesn't even begin to cover it |
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planeteire - |
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Gody! Gody! Gody! |
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we should just become Georgetown and ditch football |
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Good thing we didn't fire Polian OR give more FG kicker schollys!!! |
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Charlie Ball |
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wow.... |
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Nothing wrong with Syracuse that Vitamin ND couldn't cure. |
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f$CK YOU CHARLIE WEIS! F#UCK YOU! YOU ARE DONE! |
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this is a joke, right? |
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Charlie Weis supporters...please show yourself and bring excuses. Thanks. |
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This has nothing to do with missed FGs. ND started three drives inside the Syracuse 30 and got nothing. |
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I am stunned...I have to call out on Monday. The abuse I stand to take will be unbearable. |
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Unthinkable. |
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CW to doubters: WE ARE A NASTY FOOTBALL TEAM!!! |
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so the irish play basketball on monday right |
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Well, Charlie's here through next year, so get used to it. |
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Cuse DC will double Tate. |
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do we not know a hot read?!?! |
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why do their blitzes work? |
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cuck farlie |
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I say we start Harangody at QB next saturday |
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Thank God I took all of next week off... |
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Why did we go to an inexperienced slob like him to begin with... |
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Hardly unthinkable. More like predictable. |
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tick tock |
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Is there anyone left who can justify retaining Weis as coach? |
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Ok. Go Colts. |
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wonder how far jimmie can throw it |
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Fuck you Charlie. Fuck you. |
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Sun bowl, here we come. Look at it this way. We may get a beatable opponent. |
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This game is sort of a blessing |
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And Walker will get a second chance to miss the longest kick of his career. |
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lucky |
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can walker hit a 50 yarder? |
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oh please God.... |
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There are no beatable teams. |
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except Notre Dame |
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Fuck me running. I wish I had a helmet to throw. |
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did he just say Syracuse won? |
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Barf! |
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Roll Call: Fire CW? |
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We make so many other people's dreams come true. I'm so sick of this shit. |
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i need an ambulance |
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I just threw up in my mouth a little |
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This is the way the world ends...not with a bang, but with a whimper. |
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let USC put up 70 next week before we let CW go |
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I'll be straight up, here. I am a Charlie Weis fan. I just don't know how to defend this. |
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Fire charlie. |
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FIRE WEIS AFTER THE SLAUGHTER AT USC. |
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yep all of the charlie fans really have no answer for this one |
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Start packing, Charlie |
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Weis is a fraud who has deceived Notre Dame for long enough. If he has any honor, he will resign tonight. |
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JimK - well put. |
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Fire him now....then we'll beat SC, 'cuse just did it to us.. |
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Fire him? No. Murder him? Ask me again tomorrow. |
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Fire CW + staff. Keep Tenuta. |
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So can we pile on Weis yet? Or are we still just too impatient ( as I was admonished for being multiple times after the BC game)? |
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FIRE HIM |
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Un-be-fing-lievable. |
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At least Gerry Faust had the dignity to offer his resignation on numerous occassion. On second thought, 'dignity' may be too strong a word considering Gerry was blubbering like a baby each time he tried to quit. |
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HORRIBLE WORDS OF DISGUST DIRECTED AT ONE PERSON AT THE HEAD OF A TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD A YEAR AFTER A 3-9 SEASON. |
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charlie will get another year...fuck me running we have to go through this again next year... |
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I'm with you fellers |
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Goodbye Charlie, don't let the door hit you on the way out. |
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I HATE the slow swayin' alma mater after we effing piss up a rope. |
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Give me more names and I'll direct disgusting words at them too. |
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All I can say guys, is that I hope this doesn't chase off the top-flight recruits committed for next year. |
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How much is the effing buyout? |
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i think charlie deserves one more year. but damn, this is hard to defend. |
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Hearing that beautiful song after a disgrace like this sounds like a hollow mockery. |
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No, Charlie stays for one more year to torture those of you who have drunk the Kool Aid for the past 4 years. There are the few and the proud who have never been happy the way the last five years have played out. |
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3 mil x 10 |
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ok. Charlie has to be fired now. |
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I would love to hear someone defend charlie now. I could use a good laugh. |
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What's worse? Losing to Syracuse at home? Or knowing next year will be no different. |
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Yes. |
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Aquajock, if you are proud to be negative for all of four years, I feel sorry for you. |
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30 mil? Was White really that stupid? |
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Dead heat, kmf. |
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You know, Syracuse hadn't scored in the 4th quarter for a hell of a long time. Today, they come back from 13 points down. |
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holy shit seriously? |
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Never dis the alma mater. Even the Syracude coach gets that that is important. What class! I wish he was ours! |
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If he was a horse he would be put out of his misery. The guy is falling apart right before our eyes. The humane thing would be to relieve him of this burden that he is so ill equipped for. |
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PONY UP, ALUMS! |
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It's times like these that make me yearn for a Jesuit president of ND. |
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The Big Question: |
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yeah, charlie has earned these rebukes but not the kids on the field and certainly not the alma mater! |
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This one hurts....adios Charles |
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A Jesuit president??? Prefer we keep the school Roman Catholic, not Jesuit. |
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The Big Answer: |
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I wonder what Lou Holtz would ask for. Not for next year, I mean against USC. |
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after 50+ years of Irish Football ----I'm about to give up .... No coach - no coaches + no team |
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Hahahaha, fuck ND!!! |
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Feel free to bitch all night long. All I ask is that people respect every one's opinion and not turn this into a back and forth flame war. |
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Ok, Jacky boy, time to pass the alum hat and fire CW! |
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We need to setup a "drawing back the curtains" support group for fans as they deal with the shock of just how bad ND is. Things started to clear up for me at NC and Pitt - but during BC, I went back and took a critical look at the last 4 years, compared to Davies and Willingham. It was like being hit by a runaway truck. |
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Three possession starting inside Syracuse's 40 yard line, and all they managed was 6 points - that is an embarrassment. |
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Charlie won't quit. He's all about the money. He sues people all the time. |
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A Jesuit president would ask Weis for his resignation. Weis' refusal would result in... let's say, an unfortunate termination of more than the contract. |
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Tom, you can laugh, as long as you come back when we kick the shit out of whatever low class school you graduated from. But I doubt you'll be back. |
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Almost 50 yrs for me...we are a good coach away from returning to mid-level mediocrity. |
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Tom -- such class -- your parents know you are on their computer? |
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I've tried for so long to give charlie a shot... I've waited to see what he can do with his recruits, but at this point you can't lose to Syracuse. This was an easy, must win game and we blew it. I'm not sure what should be done with Charlie but we need to move forward and not stay stagnant. The only way I can see Charlie coming back next year is winning the bowl game, even if he somehow beats USC next week. Lets just hope it gets better from here. |
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Is it too late to give Urban Meyer his JUCO transfers and a boatload of money? |
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I sense the verbals of the most recent recruiting class slipping away... |
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>>>>i think charlie deserves one more year. but damn, this is hard to defend. |
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I've never been negative; I have always rooted for the team and hoped beyond hope that CW was more than the hype. But I have still to see one thing, besides the supposed recruiting genius, which is now suspect, which caused me to think he was any better that TW and I think the record proves it. Look at our "good" loss to NC, who just got walloped 41-10 at home by NC State. |
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Yes, the Fighting Amish are back! |
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I said earlier that you can't build a program by replacing coaches every few years and I still think that's true. That said, what saves Charlie is the bad economy. Even super-rich die-hard ND fans don't want to cough up $30 million while every industry in the country goes in the toilet. |
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Go Irish, buyout CW! |
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One more year. Anything short of a National Championship and you are GONE!!! |
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the consolation prize is we get to watch one hell of a football game this evening between two coaches who know what they're doing. |
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haha. nice take harris. |
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seems as if disaster has many siblings...my HaloScan showed about 60 people online during the game and now over 200...let's see...$10 mil divided by 200... |
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At least Michigan is 3-9 |
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Wake Forest is beating Boston College. |
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Think this might be worse than the Navy loss last season. |
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"I guess the echoes just won't wake up." |
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Haha, nothing makes my day more enjoyable than watching ND fans whine and bitch. |
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This game is absolutely indefensible. |
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213 viewers/ pilers-on now .... ND hoops @ Maui comin' up... Gody! Gody! Gody! |
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BTW re Jesuits...could we also get a Guy Fawkes kinda thing going against Kevin White, wherever he may be? |
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Tom the Troll, there is a loser in every crowd, and Tom takes top billing. |
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the green jerseys would have made the difference in a tight game like this. charlie really screwed up |
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Tom |
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turn down any and all bowl invitations |
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Suck ass Tom. |
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It can only get better from here because we are closer to getting Weis out. |
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We should not accept a bowl invitation after this. |
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Random thoughts.... |
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Kids, DON'T FEED THE TROLL. |
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i'm here to fix the mute button. |
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I mentioned Tom Clements earlier. As I recall the decision came down to Weis or Clements and to me the difference was that Clements actually played at ND and led us to a national championship. I'm not sure Tom would have been any better but certainly he "gets it". |
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NC State crushed NC today, as you all know. |
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Agree with XavierO. |
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ABC made mention of this, but in the PSU v. MSU game they cut in to show the Cuse TD and the ND missed FG and when they cut back to the guys doing the PSU game they were just silent for about 10 seconds... They were just completely at a loss for words. |
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we won the yardage battle |
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Anyone here have the guts to finally admit that the problems with this team weren't Ty's fault? |
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This was the Stanford, Pitt, Navy game all over again. Get Weis out. |
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That sound you hear???? The thud of the ground after all of the Charlie Weis apologists finally fell off the band wagon. |
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HA! I fell off the bandwagon last week. |
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I for one am looking forward to basketball season. This is a group of guys that plays together, is well coached, and has a ton of heart. Our football team could learn something from them. I'll take that over 4 and 5 star recruits any day. |
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Of course Ty's problems were Ty's fault, just as Weis's problems are his fault. |
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The difference between Ty and Charlie is that Ty couldn't recruit for shit...he was always playing with inferior talent. |
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I agree Steve, remember when all of the NFL teams were showing interest in CW... crickets now |
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6 and 6. |
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All the signs were showing in this game to the end result. I didn't emotional care because Charlie's coaching did it. Finally, a reason to get him out for those in charge. I saw it from the SDSU game or the 2005 Stanford game. |
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So what was the #1 problem today? The actual play calls, or the lack of effort by the team? Leave out the emotion, what exactly is CW doing wrong, and in what order? |
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i still think swarbick is gonna give him 1 more year. we might as well get used to it. |
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our team was hoping this game could be played inside loftus |
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And where do the defensive coaches fit into the problems? |
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"Divine" intervention isn't limited by theological canons or Newtonian mechanics.... |
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I don't think Ty has anything to do with it. Ty's career just tooka turn for the worse. |
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can we ask USC if we can play them in shorts and shells |
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What is he doing wrong? What the fuck is he doing right on gamedays? |
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Our typical goats really can't be faulted here. Clausen didn't play poorly, Walker missed two kicks that were simply longer than his leg (the bad snap isn't on him). |
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What's wrong? Well I for one am beginning to believe that Charlie has lost this team and they simply don't respond to him anymore, anyway. |
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the offense has done absolutely nothing all year unless floyd or tate bail them out |
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Fencer: In no particular orrder... |
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The offensive line is TERRIBLE at run blocking and, instead of acknowledging that the one thing this team does consistently well is throwing deep, Weis insists on pounding the ball. This team simply cannot run. They need go to the spread and be done with it. The defense is weak against the run, has a mediocre pass rush and Harrison Smith is good for one backbreaking penalty every game. |
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Motivation, IMHO, appears to be the #1 problem, but if that were the case, I don't think we would have so many great recruits lined up. |
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Ok, Jack S has one year to: |
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no motorboat for charlie's fupa tonight |
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>>>my HaloScan showed about 60 people online during the game and now over 200... |
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canons were a joke...just basic Thomistic theology about the nature of things being fixed by their divinely ordained essence... |
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FIRE EVERYONE ON THE OFFENSIVE SIDE OF THE BALL. |
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what's so special about tenuta? Our blitzing is a weakness |
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Offensive line play is my #2 problem. |
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Can Jack get $30 in just one year? |
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someone turn this thing off |
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hey daybreak...now wait...we're not Packer fans here... |
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Dear God in Heaven a loss to SYRACUSE! We're stuck with fat man for another year minimum. Like I've said before, if he had any integrity he'd offer his resignation now. The SC game will be a bloodbath. This team shouldn't go anywhere near a bowl game unless they are watching it from the stands. I said it last year and I'll say it again - WEIS IS A FRAUD!!!! Kool-aid drinkers please tell me again how many NCs we are going to win under him. 6-6 in his fourth year. Yeah, he's right on track for a National Championship. |
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mil |
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I have been a CW supporter but I agree with other posts -- this loss is hard, in fact, impossible to defend, regardless of any bad calls or whatever. There are NO excuses, PERIOD. CW was out-coached. As an example, The TD that made it 23-17 was via an unbalanced line that Stanford used so effectively. |
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Why the love for Tenuta? |
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Packer fan here! |
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Seriously, Tenuta is funny to listen to when he screams during practice, but has anything translated onto the field? |
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our 3 best freshmen from last year got worse--williams, kamara, hughes |
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Oh, and those of you still harboring delusions about a beatable opponent in a Bowl game please keep your comments to yourself. You're beyond parody at this point. |
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As soon as the line on the USC game gets posted, I'm betting the farm and laying the 60+ points. |
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We could no longer compete against USC, so our rivals became BC and MSU. |
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hey fencer - I like the Pack too (after my Bears)...but I wouldna killed devine's dog, and I don't think most of us here would. |
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"You are what you are folks, right now you're a 6-5 football team," Weis said. "And guess what - that's just not good enough. That's not good enough for you, and it's certainly not going to be good enough for me." |
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Bowl bid? Shouldn't those be earned? This team hasn't earned shit except for the anger of the fanbase |
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I'm guessing it is one more year for Weis, also. Maybe with a new line coach, and a new OC. |
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does last year's team that beat duke beat this week's team? |
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Clausen hasnt gotten any better either.....it may be time we look for a new solution under center |
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If the DL had ANY block-shedding skills (DL coach) or quickness (Str & Cond) coach, and the DB's (DB coach) didn't run right into the blocker, the blitzes would work. GT's defense almost every year should be enough evidence to keep JT. |
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I give Clausen the befit of the doubt. No OLine to rely on, and no run game to loosen things up, and no Floyd this week. |
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EPIC FAIL |
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Clausen stares down recievers, has absolutely no escapability whatsoever, and seems lost when the line breaks down |
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What is really sad is that today, ND did not seem to play with emotion and did another 4Q collapse. Why???? |
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without question the problem is the offensive line. when your best short yardage play is a qb sneak something is wrong. |
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Harris, |
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Get Charlie and Charlie Jr. off the sidelines. Don't sing the Alma Matter unless you win. |
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would it have been smarter to have maust drop kick the last field goal? |
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Cannot fault Clausen. The OL play was awful (again)!!!!!!!! |
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i feel like the song Adam Sandler wrote in "The Wedding Singer" after his breakup. |
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yep, get off the field if you don't win. unless you want to breed a culture of losing |
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Even if we won...if would have been pure talent that one--not any type of team effort or coaching to say the least. |
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Clausen is okay. He's only a soph. And I'm not convinced he's not 100% (since the second half of the NC game). |
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do you think manti was impressed |
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This team is dead, they play without passion, without spirit, without motivation...i almost saw it on the flicker on the fumble...but that is it...this team SHOULD be 9-2...they play like they've earned their stars, but that was in a HS all star game... |
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I only say keep Tenuta cause he hasn't had time to make the impact he can. |
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back to training camp? |
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Get Brian Kelly for 2009. |
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Okay. |
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we haven't earned a bowl game. |
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Th easy part is saying get rid of Charlie, but who cane ND lure to SB? Has to be someone that will keep all those 4 & 5 star recruits. |
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Aren't we contractually obligated to play in a bowl game if chosen? |
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2009 will be the same as 2008 with Weis just giving away games. History does not repeat, but echoes. |
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I am really upset with Weis for basically guaranting the starting job to Clausen because he had all the pub, but is no better than Sharpley, who did not arrive in stretch hummer. It just shows a lot about the program. |
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hopefully we'll get to see dayne christ next week. |
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maybe this week they'll go back to full pads all week in practice and switch up the play calling and try the spread and the wildcat and look down the field for rudolph more and try to give jimmy more time in the pocket and really work on our defensive pressure have Duval really step up this week and try to pound the ball and have kicking competitions at the end of every practice and keep working on that built in schematic advantage... hell who am I kidding... USC pulls its starters at the half... |
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I saw dayne crist this season. in fact he looked like he was going to cry behind charlie when cuse took the lead |
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Aquajock, I apologize for the personal accusation, and I totally believe that you are a frustrated life-long fan. I am, too... |
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Why would you want to see Crist next week? I realize he won't play, but if he were to play wouldn't he be unable to apply for a fifth year if/when that comes? |
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Wow... no suggestions? Okay, tossing out names: |
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I'd support Brian Kelly. |
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wasn't thinking about 5th year eligibility...just sick of watching this offense |
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Grobe?? Has he really done that well with Wake Forest? |
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Just throwing out names. |
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Charlie just said he he's not worried about his job....Really Charlie?, Really? |
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I GIVE UP. SC BY 60--FIRE CHARLIE RIGHT AFTER SC GAME------GET ANYBODY. |
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Fencer: He took Wake Freakin' Forest to a BCS game. |
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I asked for names. Brian Kelly has my backing so far |
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let's get mark may to coach |
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Jeff Fisher? |
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I'm in favor of a Tom O'Brien. We couldn't beat him when he was at BC, his teams were always ready to play and he was able to coach up his two and three star players, something that isn't getting done now at SB. Besides with his BC background maybe he would be the second coming of Frank Leahy |
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I agree no bowl unless ND somehow upsets USC. But can't fire Charlie without a realistic replacement in the wings. A shortage of good coaches means keeping CW as the worst situation is a firing and drifting. The recruits will bolt. Need a solid replacement ready to step in. |
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Fisher is an interesting name, but we need a college coach. Someone who can recruit, knows how to deal with the limitations on practice time, can gladhand alumni, etc. |
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Charlie should be more worried about his LIFE than his job right now. |
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Michael -- Grobe is 52-42, and 6-4 this year. 2006 was impressive for Grobe, but want more than 1 good season from a new coach. |
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I don't think you are contractually obligated to play in a bowl game if offered. There ought to be some law that protects the innocent from having to watch a team like our Irish in a Bowl game. |
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I'm not so sure it fait accompli that Weis' job is safe for another year, especially after today. If I'm the current AD I take one look at him and think, "This joker wasn't my hire, why should I keep him around?" |
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Fisher would be be nice but I don't see him leaving anytime soon. didn't O'Brien just get hired at NC state? |
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Hire Mike Singletary! |
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"I'm not so sure it fait accompli that Weis' job is safe for another year, especially after today. If I'm the current AD I take one look at him and think, "This joker wasn't my hire, why should I keep him around?" |
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Forget the pro coaches. Get a college coach with a proven record of winning some games and inspiring student athletes. |
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Recruits may be bolting anyway. The mistake with CW was the decade extension after 6 games, the best of which was a loss. |
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I guess I don't have to take New Years Day off. Double time and a half here I come. |
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i'm so impressed charlie was drinking his own snot in the cold today |
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BTW, didn't Grobe lose that bowl game, too? Louisville I think? |
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Fencer: Think I said multiple times that I was just throwing our names because nobody else was. |
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oops, i meant today he actually was NOT drinking his snot like in past seasons |
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Is reality that hard to grasp? Neither Gruden nor Fisher are coming here. They have better deals where they are and ND has little to offer for a good HD. We would be better served finding a good college assistant coach who is ready to make the leap and let him rebuild the program. No top tier coach would want to come here. Didn't we learn anything from what happened with Urban? |
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Stanford, NC, Pitt, Navy, Syracuse=same game every week...Weis' coaching is a broken record with possibly record breaking athletes. |
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Michael -- relax, I'm not attacking you. I'm just not sure that anyone can name an available coach who can, or will, coach ND. I know I can't. |
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Notre Dame it's been time for New Direction. Wake up. |
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Wow...how the mighty have fallen. Maybe next year we'll play our backup QB again and let you at least have a chance... |
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Fencer: Didn't think you were attacking, Just reiterating that I'm merely throwing out names for discussion. I don't want Grobe either. That said, if he had been on our sidelines today, we win easily. |
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Charlie: |
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Michael -- OK. |
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Not to take the bait, but I'd feel even worse about things if Wannstedt (sp?) were our coach. |
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Michael -- LOL |
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Here's what I'd do: Tell Mike Leach that ND is hosting a pirate film festival. Then, when he shows up on campus to catch "The Crimson Pirate," you hit him in the head, stuff in a bag and put him on a plane to the Vatican. When you get there tell him, "Take what you want." Roof of the Sistine Chapel in your office? Done. Sainthood? You can be the patron saint of pirates and football coaches. Pope? Hey, we never really liked Ratzenberger anyway. $20 million in gold coins and a saucy wench with flashing eyes and a sharp saber? You want a brunette or a redhead? |
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HAHAH YOU LOST TO WANNSTEDT...WAKE UP MORON....you're hit rock bottom and begun to dig... Your stupidity is almost unbelievable... |
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You cant rebuild with a revolving door at HC. CW has improved this team from last year and will get our first bowl win in over a decade. With top recruits coming in every year it will get better. Be patient if he doesn't get double digit wins next year then but him out. Weis is classy enough to ask for a reduced buyout if he doesn't get it done next year. |
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I think "The Crimson Pirate" is what my girlfriend calls her period. |
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What about Charlie strong ---- He may be a perfect fit especially since he's been a coach at ND . |
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How I and every other Packer fan miss Wannstedt! Always fun to play the Bears when he coached them! |
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Pittfan, Stay in your dirty, depressing city, cheer for your team 'stache, and get out of our site! You obviously are too intelligent to have anything worthwhile to say on this blog, so how about you stay silent, huh? I've been to Pitt for two games, and I've never seen a worse fan-base than I did there! You exemplify the sleaze that permeates the culture of Pitt! |
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Yeah. Cause Wannastache is so much better than Weis?! |
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No sweat Louie. My fan days go back to the mid 50's when the Army game was a big one and Dick Lynch scored the touchdown to break OK's streak. I was privileged to personally witness the first three years of Ara, and watch my many distinguished classmates: Jim Lynch, Alan Page, Nick Eddy, Larry Conjar, George Geoddeke (sp?), Alan Sack (who has written some excellent books about intercollegiate athletics), Tom Regner, etc. There was always pride and fight, something that's been missing for awhile. |
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"you're hit rock bottom." |
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I'm sure that there are coaches who would come to ND and achieve the success we all would like to see. I'm positive. However, I think that it would help the cause for fans to show a little patience with coach Weis for at least the rest of this season plus next year. At times, I have found the games to be unwatchable, and that has to impact the bottom line, but it is no less frustrating to me than it is to sit in a quiet stadium with fans sitting on their hands waiting for the team to do something worthy of their cheering. Anyway, I think the whole tone needs to change. Kudos to the BGS folks for running a classy site that stays positive (if objective). |
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Why would Tom O'Brien ever come to ND? I live in Raleigh and they worship the man down here. He also has a real stud freshman QB and some serious young talent. Why take that risk with this shipwreck in South Bend? |
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This team has not improved from last year. The only positives are jump balls to floyd and tate and Wooden not being in the secondary anymore. |
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What about Kiffin? He's not doing anything these days. At least you know we could continue the good recruiting. |
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Bill "The Jaw" Cowher would be awesome. |
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Just when I was feeling depressed along comes a Pitt fan and reminds me there are worse things in life -- like being a Pitt fan forever stuck in mediocrity. |
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Stephen that was hilariously accurate! |
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Clausen doesn't help his O-line at all either. If he ever ran a bootleg you'd never see it in highlights because he'd fake out evry camera angle. Why run reverses in the 1st qrtr and not the 4th when the 'D' is actually over pursuing. |
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Listen to you people... "mediocrity" "poor coaching"...and you're talking about OTHER teams.... WAKE UP. You make fun of a coach that beat you, AT HOME, with a PATHETIC BACKUP QB. You make fun of a coach who STARTED THE SAME YEAR AS YOURS, HAS SUPPOSEDLY BEEN OUTRECRUITED BY YOURS, AND BEAT YOUR TEAM THIS YEAR. What was your excuse that week? Heard too many since then, can't remember... |
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Well said, Epee, well said! |
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Maybe we can entice JoPa to come over. |
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Hey, Leach has built a solid, deep team that scores points in bunches, is nasty along both lines and he may turn what was an absolute football backwater into national champions. We'd be lucky if he even bothered to take ND's call at this point. |
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Pat, other BGS board members, I believe PittFan is a perfect example of the TRASH we need to kick out of this blog by requiring a registration before posting. Anyone object?? |
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re: Clausen and bootlegs |
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Oh, and "Bill Cowher..." Holy crap you people are delusional. Maybe you can get Greg Robinson....MAYBE. No one wants that job. You DEFINE mediocrity. Again, you've hit rock bottom and begun digging. |
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I don't think this team could run the spread. Team speed is way to slow for that. So any spread coaches would be a waste here for 2-3 years while they changed the players out. |
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Don't diss Pittsburgh the city ... Pittsburgh is a great town. Pitt FANS on the other hand ... the most classless bunch of people I have ever been around. And this coming from someone who grew up attending Pitt games in the late 80s (yeah, they were pretty sweet then - my favorite game of the year was when ND came to town) with two parents who are Pitt grads. Pitt fans have become classless though; even my family is embarassed by their conduct. I always think back to the '04 or '05 game when I was at the game in Pittsburgh and all of their fans were out of the stadium by the mid 3rd quarter at home. At least ND fans stand up for their team, win or lose ... even when we grouse get PO'ed. |
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Funny thing is losers like Pitt Fan don't realize there is also more to life than football. Like getting a great education. Suffering through 6-6 but getting a great education beats Wannie ball and a second-rate degree. |
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open forum blogs are the best format. |
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I hereby officially hand in my Weis Supporter's card. I still don't think it's a good idea to can him now, but only because I don't think we'd get much better at this point. Take the next year to get a good coach in line (Kelly, Leach, etc.) and work out a deal, then pull the trigger. Unless you can talk to a Leach or someone now and they're game, but I doubt it. |
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And? Do you think this team is likely to win anything in next 2-3 years? |
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Unreal: Just saw that. Ugh... |
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Yeah, cause you're all ND grads. And i'm an astronaut. |
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Wow. Anyone else watching Lou squirm and Mark May actually make some sense? Lou is getting pissed off ... I love it. I love that he still loves ND. And I can't stand Mark May, but he's finally right and making intelligent comments ... what is going on here? |
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ColoradoIrish, that's well said. I seriously doubt that the ND fans reading this site are the ones against whom the Pitt fan intends to retaliate. |
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Space cadet does NOT equal astronaut. |
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Pittfan - says a lot about the excitment and grandness of Pitt football when you are on - a ND blog. If PITT ball is so great - then head on over there and post away. I think it is funny you trolling around here. |
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Paraphrasing from ESPN... They haven't lowered the bar at ND, they're just not clearing it. |
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I'll say it again, DON'T FEED THE TROLL. |
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http://www.indystar.com/article/...003/1004/
SPORTS |
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What kind of miserable life does one lead when he spends a Saturday evening razzing opposing fans weeks after his team has played them? |
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Harris, you're right, but PittFan makes it so easy!!!! |
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Wow, I didn't mean to send the lonely Pitt guy into a frenzy. The Bill Cowher comment was a joke. |
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The snowball article ran in the SB Tribune during the first half of the game. People like to throw snowballs. It's immature, but probably not malicious. |
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watching May's comments again .. he actually admits that ND has high standards. I disagree that he thinks that the $20M buyout is what is keeping Weis there ... anyone else think that has nothing to do with Weis still being around? |
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I feel very badly for the players. They deserve much better than Weis. |
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Don't get ESPN, so good to hear what Lou said. Glad he is fired up! |
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As a Trojan fan, I just wanted to say that you guys shouldn't get too down. All programs go through bad coaches/bad years. USC had its Paul Hackett years. Things will definitely turn around. |
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The $20M buyout is exactly what is keeping the man behind the curtain at ND. |
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Thanks Jeff! |
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Question: Whats the better team - ND 07 or Michigan 08? |
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Thank you, Jeff! It's refreshing to hear from an opposing fan who obviously has his head on his shoulders and isn't trolling to incite violence on a blogsite. I wish you the best next week, Jeff! |
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Fencer - the best part was the passion with which he said it. And like I said ... my respect for Mark May somehow went up a notch .. he dropped his usual ND-hating attitude and made some good points. |
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Michigan '08 by a fumble. |
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I'll take Pittfan's incoherent hate over Jeff's pity any day of the week. |
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Tridentum - you think the university would blink at $20M? I can't see how that's more than a drop in the bucket with an endowment the size of ND's, merchandise sales, etc. etc. |
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Lou's words are the sun breaking through the clouds. |
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Epee - you're welcome. |
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I don't think it's legal to use the endowment money for a football buyout. Or, at least, I think it's a precedent that they don't want to set, using general funds for athletics. |
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Unreal - You may be correct but I'd like to think it's a question of economics at this point. I'd hate to think that they are still behind Weis. |
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Pittfan, |
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There's no way it is a money issue. I think that the biggest point of the extension was to (re-)establish continuity after the failed run at Urban Meyer. Firing Weis does nothing to help continuity. |
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Harris, I truly believe that it isn't pity...USC absolutely was horrible until the Poodle arrived...college football runs in cycles, much like our economy, or the average temperature of our planet! |
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Well, at what point does continuity take a back seat to productivity? |
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DayBreak -- well said! |
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Maybe PittFan is over in Michigan boards now. |
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Not the point. I want nothing from USC but their scorn. |
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Please knock off the comments about JoePa. From 2000-2004 his record was 26-31 with four losing seasons. His Big Ten road record since 2000 is 15-21. Many of his athletes could not cut the mustard academically at ND including Darryl Clark for starters. He has gone to the jucos to get talent. He has front end loaded his schedules with true patsies. Get real. |
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Tough question, tridentum. From what I have heard and read, I'm confident that Jack Swarbrick will make a measured decision based on due diligence. That includes both continuity and productivity. |
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I just hope Swabrick is a better AD than that shitbag Kevin White. |
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Anon - I know what you're saying about precedent. Still, doesn't seem like THAT much money in the business that is ND football, you know? |
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You guys realize that Kevin White was against the extension for Weis right? |
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Unreal: In terms of a business decision, if the school determined they would lose more in donations by NOT buying him out (possible), then precedent be damned they need to get it done. |
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urban, please come home... |
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Richard - good point. |
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Weis always said he would step down if he didn't do the job well....didnt he?? I swore he did. |
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Unreal -- they still talking about the game? |
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Greg Schiano from Rutgers perhaps? |
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This sucks. I'm gonna go kill everyone in Fall Out 3. |
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Yes Mike I believe Charlie did say he would step down if he didn't do the job. |
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Quick question? |
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I watched the Georgia Tech - Miami game Thursday night. Watching Georgia Tech run the ball kind of reminded me of Coach Holtz on the sideline and Tony Rice under center. It wouldn't be all bad to have Paul Johnson on the sideline in South Bend. |
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I watched the Georgia Tech - Miami game Thursday night. Watching Georgia Tech run the ball kind of reminded me of Coach Holtz on the sideline and Tony Rice under center. It wouldn't be all bad to have Paul Johnson on the sideline in South Bend. |
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No, it was in reference to something else. A one-handed catch by FL in the Citadel (yawn) game. |
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Why is Lisa Horne still posting on here under her screenname Straight Edge? Doesn't she have better things to do with her time? |
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QUESTIONS: |
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The plan: |
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Daybreak - history's a long time. Losing to Carneige Tech in '27 - with Rockne not showing up for the game he took it so much for granted - tops this one. It's out version of UM-Appalachian state. I'd say the '74 24-6 at half and lsoing 55-24 to USC was harder to take as well. I was there. That was probably our most famous loss and maybe our worst. |
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Brian Kelly, please. Weis is a fraud and an embarrassment to the program. And save me the sanctimonious crap how Weis "gets" ND, or how Brian Kelly is too slick for saintly Notre Dame. Lou Holtz was no angel either (despite the delusions of some ND fans), yet he was able to win and run an honorable program at ND. I bet Brian Kelly would be able to do the same. That is, assuming he wants to jump from a potential BCS program to a mid-major has been. |
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Agreed. Brian Kelly it is then. |
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I would be all for Urban Meyer. In fact, this Florida journalist agrees, and thinks it could happen. |
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Found the answer, the a-holes who decided, after 7 GAMES, that's right only 7 games (and only a 5-2 record) to give FrontButt a gigantic extension, are.... |
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From the ESPN game recap: |
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Sorry. Yahoo recap. |
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Stewart Mandel has already commented on Weis: |
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Don't worry ND fans, hopefully this will be the catalyst for getting rid of Weis. I'm still flabbergasted that you didn't fire him after last year. |
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Hi, my name is Schultz and I'm a former Charlie Weis believer. |
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I pretty much handed in my Weis Supporter card after the Pitt game, but at this point it's been torn up and burned to ashes. Anyone else find it ironic that it was Syracuse that put the final nail in the Willingham coffin, too? |
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...those of you that have read my infrequent postings know that I have been highly critical of the running backs and cornerbacks, led by Terrell Lambert... |
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You guys just don't understand the decided schematic advantage Charlie is working with. The rage he feels when he looks down and can't see his penis? He channels that into the team. And the players, especially Jimmah, really respond. |
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To answer Louie's question from waaaay back, an Alouette is a French Canadian term for a skylark, made famous in a French children's folk song. |
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I'm not an apologist but have been trying to see the glass as half full, benefit-of-the-doubt style. Right now I'm having trouble seeing anything in the glass, except the drippy remnants of what used to be a football program I had faith in. To have a good team with these players is not a lot to ask for, let alone expect. Having a good team losing to other good teams, I can take that. That's at least competitive. Losing to the dregs of DI-A with prized recruits and bowl coalitions in the house? I cannot take that. |
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...how could it be that besides UW and WSU, ND may be the worst team in D-1 football...while Texas Tech is in the top 5?...I don't understand what has happened to a once proud program...full of 4 and 5-star players... |
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Still returning to glory then? |
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FIRE RON POWLUS |
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Looks like the signature win that Charlie was looking for has become a signature loss. Absolutely disgraceful. I have a pit in my stomach. |
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Just watching Stoops jump up and down slapping his players helmets and our fathead never EVER shows any emotion. College football is all about emotion and I just don't see CW ever being able to bring that to the table. He never even played the game. Why would players ever listen to him? |
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'notre dame will rise again' |
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The only thing more depressing than that loss are the reports that snowballs were being thrown at ND players from the student section. That is disgraceful. |
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I think people are blowing the snowbaLL thing out of proportion. I doubt any player was really offended by a damn snowball. Stop exxaaggeerraatting. |
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FWIW, Mike Leach didn't play football either. |
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Right now its obvious Mike Leach didn't play football. He's losing it on purpose! PUNT THE BALL! |
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I'd give my right testicle to have half the offense of Texas Tech/Oklahoma/Texas's offense. |
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I just called the University and was connected with the voice mail recording at the football office. The number is 574-631-5000. Maybe if people leave enough messages the obvious will get through. |
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P.S. You have to ask to be connected with the football office. |
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Daybreak, are you kidding me? Somebody throws a snowball at me and were not actually having a snowball fight, I'm fucking pissed. I think its pretty piss poor for the fans to be doing that. That being said if I was there I might have wanted to throw one at Charlie. |
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Charlie isn't going anywhere this year, even though he should. The issue with this team is its inability to run the ball, full stop. Latina is the one who will be packing his bags, if for no other reason than that Charlie will have to do something to appease the administration and to attempt to address our inability to run. |
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They're even beating us up in Philly: |
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Weis doesn't even understand the basics of field position. |
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Players wear freaking ARMOR. No one was pissed by a snowball. I'm sure any snowballs that were thrown were thrown in fun. Especially since it was the first quarter and we weren't getting our asses kicked at that point. The fans were still hopeful. |
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...Doug...read Kris at 9:46...you might learn something... |
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if we are invited to a bowl game, we should not turn it down. breaking the bowl game losing streak would be a worthwhile accomplishment. we may wind up facing the hurricanes |
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Come on. We know we SHOULD turn down the bowl game but we all know we won't. |
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I don't care if your sitting in a tank, someone throws something at me or my team mates, espeically my own fans, I think I might ask them to meet me in the parking lot after the game. |
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Then I guess if we go to sugar bowl we shouldn't throw marshmellows? |
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...thank goodness the fans didn't find hand grenades in the aisles... |
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Use the bowl money towards the buyout. |
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I'm sensing you were a little bit of a bully when you were a kid. Kicking someone when there down is such a classy move. |
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Floyd was mightily missed today. |
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Floyd will be more mightily missed next week as he is the only ND player with the speed to crack SC's offense two deep. Unless our receivers grow an extra leg each and someone figures out some new routes, JC could be hit for 5 PICs. SC's LBs/DBs are faster than anyone we have except Floyd. |
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5 PM PST, 11/29/08, the clock is ticking........ Start praying to Touchdown Jesus, because that CARDINAL & GOLD train coming around "The South Bend" is getting ready to put at least half 100 on your blue and gold boys..... |
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Throwing a snowball at a winning football team playing a REALLY bad football team in the first few mintues of the game isn;t "kicking when they are down." |
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John Saunders just announced that this is the first ever loss by ND to an 8 loss team. Volumes. Volumes, my friends. |
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Indy, |
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What ever you say tough guy. |
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I wish football was as good as our olympic sports--since it's the only thing that really matters. BC has taken our place on the national football scene and we have become the Stanford of the Midwest. |
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Bob Davie was 35-25 and CW is 28-20 virtually identical records. |
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When was the last time the students had snow in the stands? Penn State, 1992? I don't think enough fell that day to make snowballs. It was stupid to risk hurting someone and to harass the team, but clearly it was students having fun. Once the novelty wore off and the negatives became apparent, the snowballs stopped. The folks getting hit should indeed have been upset, but this story is not worthy of the AP wire. |
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By the way, I do like a team that can be referred to as "the Als". Perhaps the Raiders should change their name to the Alouettes. Thank you for the etymology, Joe! |
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Aw fuck it- I'm going back to sleep. |
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Louie don't lie to him. Nothing will be rewarded. The loss tonight set us back at least 5 years. I can't imagine ND winning a quality win in the next 2 years or so. |
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i'm done. hanging up my mouse as a die-hard notre dame football follower. i will still always cheer for the team, but i won't sit and watch every down of every game. love this website, but i just can't check it daily anymore. i'll read it a lot less frequently. |
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1982-85 Air Force |
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Seriously, DayBreak? You are right that it's hard to envision a quality win, but it's also pretty clear that college football allows for falling down, and rising up, in very short order. As much as I'm not sold on Clausen, he has made significantly better decisions and throws this season. I'm not optimistic for USC, but I might be for the Sun Bowl. |
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add Arizona and Oregon '82 to that list. |
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Indy, who plans to finish a 5th on a Tuesday? |
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So, it becomes clear to me that the extension the university gave Charlie was, in more ways than one, a Faustian bargain. |
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RichardDor: I'll both start AND finish one if Weis hasn't been fired by then. |
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Louie, |
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I would say college football is 80% about head coaching. This is why 2009 will not make a difference. It will be the S.O.S. |
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I don't care what he did in New England- he never had any head coaching experience on any level. The hire always baffled me. While I take a small amount of joy in watching it happen, as a Michigan fan, it's good for both of us if the rivalry stays intact and both teams are good. |
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what a f8cked up world we live in. pricks on wall street ruin the world economy and take 40% of my hard earned money, yet leave with million dollar payout. Weis gets a $20m contract for losing a game, and then pisses all over himself for 4 years and finally kevin white signs one of the worst contracts in the history of modern college sports, and then gets hired at Duke. |
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Guys, White was against the contract extension. He left ND because he had no power commensurate with his position. |
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the media is calling this a shocking loss. sadly, for those who have been following--it was a typical weis game. |
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DayBreakBoys, your point is well taken. I was thinking more about the big picture, that other programs have risen and fallen quickly. I wasn't trying to say that this has been a quick fall for ND. With that said, I still think 2005 was a great season. Even the bowl loss was competitive, in my opinion. |
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For the love of God, please do not subject us to another Bowl game defeat. Stay home Charlie! |
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This may have been a "typical weis game" for this season, but I disagree that it would have been typical of 2005 or 2006. In those seasons, I think ND beats this year's Pitt team and I know they beat 'Cuse. Probably by last-second heroics. The current team lacks confidence, and I don't know how to instill that. The success early in the season should have built confidence, but it didn't. |
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The Weis teams lack fire, inspiration, whatever you want to call it. Couple that with lousy fundamentals and you have 4 and 5 star recruits with a 6-6 season. Next year will be worse if Weis stays. I can't imagine the mindset that now plagues the players. It must be absolutely soul crushing. Weis has nearly killed ND football. |
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"5 PM PST, 11/29/08, the clock is ticking........ Start praying to Touchdown Jesus, because that CARDINAL & GOLD train coming around "The South Bend" is getting ready to put at least half 100 on your blue and gold boys....." |
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As you are talking about other programs, the No. 2 team has already given up 65 points tonight. |
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Oh, I feel much better knowing that Texas Tech gave up 65. Certainly takes the sting out of last year's 3-9 and this year's abysmal 6-6. |
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Nothing takes the sting away from 3-9 or the shit we had to watch today. |
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As for coaches, how about Brent Venables, the Oklahoma DC? I know he interviewed for the Clemson job. |
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Matt J, I like where your head's at. |
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I can't even believe we're going to be 6-6 after starting the year 4-1. We're the Buffalo Bills of the Div 1 football. |
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Except the Buffalo Bills lose to teams with .500 or better records... |
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Does anyone know how many of our OL and DL are four and five star recruits besides Sam Young? |
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According to Scout.com: |
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In other words: |
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Who is Lisa Horne? |
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Lisa Horne: |
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I just wanted to comment on how classy Greg Robinson is. In the post game interview, he cut off the reported to point out that the ND band was playing the alma mater, and stopped the interview. NBC cut to a shot of the players, then resumed the interview after the alma mater was over. Robinson may not have turned 'Cuse around fast enough, but I became a big fan of his yesterday. |
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Charlie Weis is a dead man walking in LA.... His tenure as coach is over... He is a good man and who has done great things for his daughter and the community but his ability to coach this team is evident.. ND has lost two games it should not have... including Pitt and Cuse and probably should have beat UNC too.. 8-4 or 9-3 turns into 6-6 probably.. what a joke.. this program sucks right now and i am getting pissed considering the guys we have on this team |
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it will get ugly getting him out of here. it will make the ty saga look like kids play. with charlie jr ready to eat his way across campus, and the hannah project, which is based on money from his long term contract, he wont resign and he will make it ugly i believe. this is going to be a train wreck like you have never seen. the one strage thing is no players seem to be going out of their way to come to his defense that i am aware of. that speaks volumes |
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Wow. |
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