GO IRISH!!


defense on the field first; is that the first time this year?


So our defense finally gets a 3rd down stop and we HAVE A F*CKING PENALTY.

ARE YOU KIDDING


that's the risk we run having a true frosh in there.


Nice coverage Mo Crum!!!


Boy this defense-first idea solved all of our problems, didn't it?


nice coverage Mo Crum indeed. Hold 'em to a FG.


now lets go out there and take the lead.


Sweet play, Mo!!! Is it me or is the camera work better on ESPN better than NBC? I have a much better sense of the game.


yeah I want to watch the recievers this game and see how open they can get.


Excuse the typos, first time trying to post during a game...


nice catch george


CW starting out vertical!


damn, go down the field!


UGH! Whatever happened to "Tight End U"?


It became Tight Ends, FU.


We're consistent.


wtf kind of defense is this.


I'd be more nervous if it was 3rd and 15


wow, we need to get some pressure.


Looks like the 'douche came to play.


I'll be surprised if Zibby gets drafted before the 4th round.


Our defense can't blame this on the offense. Corwin Brown is making Joe Tiller look like a genius.


FIRE THE DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR!!!!


Get Zibby away from ND and he becomes John Lynch.


Tis gonna me another long day. Another loooong Motherf'ing day.


arrelious benn is fast


Nice to see Illinois showing how much PSU really sucks.


how inept are we?


Clausen actually has time to throw. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like very many receivers are getting open.


We're down to the leprechaun making intros???


and they said that Allen was fast!


It looked like Carlson fell down on the rollout.


Jimmy throws the first "look" pass of the year.

He friggin zipped it to Westy better than Quinn.

Footwork and ball mechanics.

This is the best Jimmy has looked.

Finally a JC pass.

Go for it!


might as well go for it.


dive?? dive???


PATHETIC.


God Almighty, do we suck.


And who saw that coming? Not the 11 guys in the box!


Need a turnover.

Brock's defense has played it's best, though. He's a fool. 2 series only down 10. Can't give a TD now! Huge loss!


unwatchable fucking garbage


can we clone Trevor Laws?


Trevor Laws!!! 3rd and a million! Screen and Draw!!!


Oh god, 3rd and 29.


all the money that Zibby is losing, Laws is earning. good for him. now follow up with a 3rd and 25 completion


Holy Shit! We're allowed to Sack too? I thought maybe it was some Catholic rule.


What the fuck ... 3-29 and Purdue got their first down


We just let them convert a 3rd and 29.


3rd and 1, 4th and 1 ... we get stuffed. 3rd and forever and they catch it a yard past the 1st down. Gonna be a looooooooong year!

Go Irish


see posts above


you just knew that was going to happen...3rd and 29...sheesh


Hahahahahahahaha
It's either laugh or cry.


so much for Walls getting his revenge from last year


What a joke.


meanwhile the zooker is doing just fine over at Illinois


Incredibly, our ineptitude has taken their crowd out of it!


It seems the entire team lacks any sense of what is happening and where they are on the field.


Shame about the flag. Odds of PU converting on 3rd down just increased.


Have we stopped anyone on 3rd and long this year? I remember it being a problem the last two years, but I thought we fired that guy.


Why did I wake up with any faith that we would look good this morning?


Were we man on 3rd and a million? That corner needs some help! Cover 2 or 4? I wish Tommy Z would give a better effort. Guess he's gonna keep his boxing gloves. His effort ever since his first year looks like he's just walkin onto the field as a favor. You know what Tommy, you have a gift. And if you don't want to show for the NFL and go box - then go box now. At least a younger guy who shows heart and doesn't go to his knees before making a tackle and doesn't put his hands on his hips as the tackle is being made, at least someone else younger could come in and give an effort like you. And then maybe by his fifth year we could break him down build him up again so that he would wanna play on Sundays. Get frickin motivated tough guy.


and we suck today, just like yesterday...and the day before....all the way back to November 1993


This looks like another "watch one half and then turn it off" game...


10 - 0 ---- and that's a moral victory for us!

But, there are more bright spots so far than at anytime this year (which is why I know I'm in a coma, in Moldava, paying for all those nights in Holy Cross hall!).

Go Irish


we stopped them! we really really stopped them!!


Well said T, Zibby has thrown in the towel for the season and is an incredible disappointment.


Did i just see a stop on 3rd and nine?


Do the Purdue frats still have slip-and-slides down the hill?


Boy, Purdue today looks like us circa 2005...


woohoo zibby


17-0, coming soon to a screen near you!
Good going, Zibby!

Go Irish


Zibby absolutely has not thrown in the towel. Don't type such stupid stuff.


Purdue's best effort was already given. Let's run the ball hard out of 22, four TE's

BTW, his feet are on the line. That's a touchback. The guy who's got the ball last from Purdue, his feet are on the damn line!!!!


ok, i know it's not much to watch, but can ESPN STOP MISSING PLAYS on the field when it shows the crowd or other games, or whatever???


Did anyone else see that effr? The kid's feet were in the endzone. That BS


Pat, did you see him walk off the field right there without even turning around to see what happened to the ball?


ESPN has gotten pretty bad at broadcasting football games this year...


In college, it's the ball not the player. If the ball crosses the goal line at all, it's still a touchback.


17 - 0, coming to a screen near you!

Go Irish


LA Times this morning: in the last 10 years, Notre Dame is 74-52. Could it possibly be worse?


so now the running backs and the dbs are letting us down. ND football, it is FANNNNTASTIC


Our line is doing a pretty good job pass blocking, but the run blocking is horrible.


Solid tackle by Jimmy!


didn't quite matter about the fumble


why do you throw that?


Clausen is gonna be rally good one day. Just not today. Or next week.


JimK - ask the 'LA Times' to show USC's record from 1982 - 2002.

Our record could get lots worse - for another half decade, and we'd still be well ahead of them.

Go Irish


oh, well, that's fine. LB on a back. Still Mo was way behind


1892-2006: The Fighting Irish
2007: The Lackadaisical Irish


Man - Jimmy, still learning...

He reminds me of Quinn in his first few games. Some big mistakes, but he learned and we saw what came of it later...


I am thinking about turning off my TV.


Our linebackers are so easy to block. They never shed anybody. Ever!


why not do the Ty and have Jimmy chuck the ball all over the field


Right you are, Bill H. Amazing how short the memory of USC is. No NC from 1978-2003. That gives us six more years to avoid that futility...


Even if by accident, could we not suck for one friggin game?


Way to go, D!


I know this is way premature...but even as bad as we are...we could beat this team...


0-5....heading towards 0-8.


Another moral victory!

Go Irish


Of course JimK. ND is only down by 2 TDs. This is the same Purdue offense that has given ND trouble the past few years. The difference is that the last few years ND could score at will too.


Boru, I was wondering the same thing. Even a stopped clock is right twice-a-day!


Keith Olbermann has an interview in the October playboy.


The good news is tickets for the USC game should be cheap and easy to acquire.


OK, going out on a limb, but we're getting at least one offensive TD before the half.


Alright, the officials got one right!!! Still only 2 scores. I'm still pissed about Purdue first touching the punt at the one. HPB, are you sure that the player can't be touching the Goalline?


Yes, Pat - our D hasn't totally crapped out (except for that g.d. third and 29...apologies, Lord...)...if we could only generate some offensive consistency


PK - you are right. With no line, JC is showing what he has. You obviously know the game, and can see it. With a run-of-the-mill OL, he'd have us 3-1 to date.

Go Irish


Therefore the October issue of Playboy showcases the biggest pussy in America.


Nice pass and catch.


Claussen on a rope!!


Clausen is being allowed to throw downfield! Take the training wheels off, CW.


The player can be touching the goal line, the ball must not cross the line.

In college, if the coverage leaps into the air to bat the ball out of the endzone, the ball still crossed the goalline and is a touchback.

If the player is on the line and stops the ball on the one, the ball hasn't crossed the line and is down on the one.


so this week we can't run...


Like they said, Purdue's defense is a siv. OL has progressed nicely. Everyone hold on. They sure are stackin up on the run game. I'd go empty a bit more often now and see how they're playin it if Jimmy knows it. We can throw it. David G already has two catches. Motion to empty with the H, more.


Clausen's having some nice moments out there, but our running game seems to have regressed since last week. If it's not one aspect of our offense, it's another.


Hate to say it .. I'll settle for one TD, one FG, and hold the Spoilers to less than whatever their average is (let's hope its 63 points!).

Go Irish


Only run Thomas on fake punts


Our running backs and receivers must have the fewest broken tackle in the nation.


An opponent starting behind their 20. Oh for the small victories.


The interesting thing is that the OL is doing a pretty good job in pass protection, but we're still not spreading out Purdue with multiple receivers. Having Schwapp release out 4 yards isn't going to help ND on 3rd and 10.


Good point Pat.

Go Irish


Duke beat Northwestern NW leads MI 10-7 MI beat ND 38-0


The scalpel's out now. 27 - 0 at the half is starting to look nice.

Go Irish


The transitive property doesn't work in college football.


Likes to draw sports pictures?


Again, they pick up a 3rd and long by a yard.

Go Irish


This is disappointing.


Our D makes Painter look like Joe Montana in his professional prime.


Benn made the right call. He'd be rotting with us.

BTW - who's this cowboy in the booth?

Go Irish


The ESPN cut-ins of Arrelious Benn tearing it up against PSU is like pouring salt in an open wound.


Penn State vs Illinois looks to be a repeat of Cincinnati vs Cleveland from a few weeks ago. 21-17 in the 2nd qtr...


Cowboy Curtis, Pee-Wee's Playhouse, 1986.


Does anyone notice that our DB's are consistently running behind the WR's looking at their back and never looking for the football? Every game I see it.


I kind of hope Purdue wins by 40+ so they can have something to inscribe on their Sun Bowl rings.


Have to disagree re Benn. This year, yes. Over the next 3-4 years, no.


Maybe tonight we can see Justin Trattou tearing up Auburn.


Voice, keep it up. You're the only thing making me laugh during this game.

Oh, wait. No, I found something else to laugh at -

http://www.spreadshirt.com/shop...._id=1951475& p=1


I blame the lack of a school voucher program and the dwindling number of nuns teaching secondary educaton.

We need to get better athletes in Catholic high schools and more nuns guilting them into going to Notre Dame.


20-0

Disgusting. Pathetic. Gutless

A complete and utter disgrace

they can't tackle, they can't runblock, they can't cover, they can't do a single thing right today.

0-12 folks

Worst. Season. Ever.


gets worse......


What's the over/under on how many of these 19 verbals we actually hang on to come signing day? I'll set it at 15 for now...


LL, the emu shirt is a riot!


Charlie is a genius...no doubt about it. Best coach in college football.


#2 son is at PSU-Ill filming for Sports Action Team.


try 10

The wheels are totally off the program. and every single member of the media is cackling with glee


Bill, your 27-0 call is looking good.


the ground caused the fumble.


Pat The transitive theory works in relation to ND this year. Until they can show they can score everyone will be favored. Duke no exception.


Tom, hold on!

Coming to a screen near you (in seconds)it'll be 27 - 0.

Go Irish


So Purdue is gonna drop 60.

The real question is, can USC drop 100?


Let's make something clear. The purpose of this thread is to talk about the game. It is not a place for you to whine and cry like a 10 year old who just skinned his knee.

If you want talk about the action on the field, fine. If you're just going to bitch and moan, find another outlet.


did anyone else think the ground caused the fumble?


how many fumbles is that for AA this year? Sheesh.


kudos to the cowboy - we keep hearing about the great recruits...but on the field in a real college game? 50% of these players are CW's


Like I'm watching the game now??

the whole @^&#(^*@&#^*@^#& season is just so @#^@*#&^@#*&^ horrific, I can't even think of new words for the new lows that will be set


27-0 at halftime(?). Another good game for ND.


Duke and Peter Vaas are going to be stoked to beat the Irish. Duke beat Notre Dame 37-13 in 1961, and I don't think they'll show as much restraint this time around.


Thanks Pat.


Sorry Pat, you're right. I'll go now.

Just frustrated, and we have taken a step back this week


whats your take on what the commentator just said re: Charlie having to weigh a dedication to his seniors to get them to a bcs bowl against getting the young players ready for this year ...


Hah! Obviously the announcer didn't watch many of our games last year. Granted, you would assume plenty of time for second stringers in a 10-3 season, but no...


23-0...


(honest question)- when the two o-linemen are that "slow" (per ESPN comment) getting outside to get ahead of Allen on that last offensive play, is that lack of speed, or fundamentals?


We need some type of spark in the worst way.


Except for Clausen who actually does look like a QB at times.

But seriously? How come we can't run the football?

They try the same stretch play, the RB hesitates and the weak side linebacker (generally it's been Heygood) gets the tackle one yard in. Are they just hesitating? Are they shocked they're not getting tackled five yards behind the line of scrimmage?

and for the love of all that is holy, can we finally get a first down 4th and 1?


well, we could have had players in during the Army, Airforce, Navy, NC games. Those were blowouts.


These blowouts are unacceptable. Wholesale changes from the top on down must be made....at the end of the season.

A week or so ago I suggested celebrity coaches. In addition I suggest interhall All Stars.

Disgraceful all around.


Lack of fundamentals...not speed on the AA screen. The blockers should be there by the time the ball gets there.


Kerry Neal and Brian Smith have been playing nearly every play on defense. They look pretty athletic out there.


10:21 a.m. -- a little too early to drink out here on the west coast. This is excruciating.


interesting...a few more individual elements look sound...D has shown some character, which it did not against Michigan; some of JCs passes look good; but no running, bad special teams. Lack of consistency, no real progress...even with mediocre players, that's on the coaching staff...


thanks, Big Mike. it seems like the 0-line guys are often confused as to what they're supposed to be doing.


If Tiller doesn't call of the "dogs", this game could get real ugly in the 2nd half.


wait, someone tell me why the commentators suck?


I agree tom, Clausen looks competent. He's a solid young quarterback.


"off"


is it too much to ask for these guys to put together a few (maybe 10 plays) together?


Speaking of running up the score, we have the perfect guy in Andre Ware to talk about that doing the game


Time for us to convert a 3rd and long.

Go Irish


spark = tate

maybe?


anon - I muted the game 20 mins ago. It's slightly more bearable not hearing the commentators searching for more synonyms for "awful."


Tate and Kamera both with big catches on this drive.... The future is promising fellas....


Hey someone made a play!!!!!!


Brian Smith, #58, is going to be a great one before he's done. Great, fluid pass rusher, keeps contain and has the discipline to "stay at home" when the ball goes away from him. And Kerry Neal is a real stud, too. Those two should rack up dozens of sacks over the next 3.5 seasons.


Thank Jesus for small favors. Flashes of brilliance, fellas. You have to give them time, guys; they're freshmen.


Nice move by JC to avoid the sack.


Whenever we motion a back out of the backfield, teams send a blitz.


LOL!

Go Irish


lets try some 3 step drops. Man on man on the outside WR's. Fade? Flag? Give the WR a chance to make the play similar to when Tate was man on man.


Snakebit. We are effing snakebit.


Text from a non-ND fan: "When Weis gets a mature team of his own guys, they're gonna be scary."


Scary-good or scary-bad?


the wheels are now officially off...it's hard to believe that things are and have gotten this bad


Mike, was an "LOL" attached to the end of the message?!?


Does anyone else see a silver lining in what's going on down the field?


intercept + good draw run = two in a row!


the silver lining is that many of the elements of a good team make an occasional appearance. The enveloping dark cloud is the utter lack of sustained growth or in-game consistency.


With 2:48 left in the half, Tulane trails LSU 7 - 2.
Tulane.

Go Irish


not unless that silver lining heralds the end of the world, in which case I won't have to suffer through the last seven games.


*sigh*



Some players look good, but still they are just getting totally depantsed out there.

By Brock Spack and Joe Tiller.


Silver Lining:
Less CO2 emissions due to fewer people driving to ND games.


Scary-good. And no, Voice, there was no LOL. The guys look good. They have moments where they look great. It'll happen.


The analyst doing the Purdue game doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. To make a statement that Weis did not play young players last year and that is a big reason why ND is having trouble this year smacks of idiocy.


Mike, I truly admire you're optimism. What I see is players who will in time be adequate...but no flashes of the greatness necessary to get back to the elite level.


Tulane now LEADS LSU, 9 - 7.
Could we even score?

Go Irish


Okay, men. We're gonna fight. We're gonna fight, and we're gonna get 'em on the run. And we're gonna run, run, run. Are you with me, men?!


I'll say it again...Aldridge and Hughes run/look like fullbacks...and I don't see Armando Allen's quickness or speed. Jeeze


Please ban Bill H. from commenting.


and much as I hate to say this...I see those flashes in the freshmen at USC, OL, RB, D


Lush -

elaborate on your last post for me, please.


Lush - it has been pointed out even here that Weis would have been better off rotating some younger guys last year to give them some experience. Especially at QB.

Whether it's a big reason or not, well, that's probably typical announcer hyperbole


Where's Rees Davis today?


not only should Weis have played younger players last year...but he should ONLY play sophomores and freshmen THIS year...


Rustydevil:
What are you having difficulty understanding?? Do you think ND's problem this year is because Weis did not intentionally play young players last year? The analyst specifically mentioned the failure to play Sharpley.


Lush you are wrong.
The amount of minutes our second teams have seen in the last few years have been extremely low. Credit charlies weis for this - he's terrible at putting games away.


oh, so you were only referring to sharpley in your post then. ok.


I was more pointing out the whole "smacks of idiocy" portion of that post. Agree or disagree, it's probably at the very least a point up for debate


Benn is having his coming out party today. He's probably almost as fast as AA. With us, Benn would be: "where's his speed? Benn's slow."

Special teams.

Go Irish


Did you ever think that you'd be jealous of the USF Bulls' program?
Another Sign of the Apocalypse.


Just what games did CW fail "to put away" the last two years? Please name the games where ND had a sizeable lead and let the opponent come back so the second team could not play. Also, name all the young players Weis had last year but intewntionally did not play.


LOL "I can whip Lee Corso." Nice job, Lou. I'll settle for you backhanding that pompous ass to your left.


okey dokey, should we divert Charlie's salary to hire some really good faculty (especially in the sciences), give them walnut paneled rooms, top notch facilities, outladish startups and move up the academic ranks instead. Really become Stanford with an (expiring) TV contract?


Rustydevil:
What do you not understand??? What players should Weis have played instead of those he did last year? Give me a half dozen or so.


It's the Powlus curse, coming back from grave.......


During today's Gameday broadcast from Oregon, some kid was waving a "Lou Holtz for Prethident" sign. Pretty funny.


I saw that Voice - cracked me up


Mark May was 100% right, you know.


time for the paper bags...


Don't want to be a Negative Nellie, but I, too, put some credence in the Powlus Curse. And I am friggin serious.


The Past is a Ghost.


Lush -

I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm only asking because I'd like to know the truth of the matter. If there weren't any young players CW had then he couldn't have played them. It seems that (as other people have noted, supra) that he did have players he could have integrated into the system.


Listening to the online broadcast here, and maybe it's the early start, but Criqui and Allen have been awful describing the action. Or maybe it's that it's 2:54 AM here. Anyways, why is AA playing and Hughes and Aldridge not? Maybe they have been, and Criqui just isn't telling us who's in, but if that's not the case, why is it that once we seem to find something that works, we run away from it as fast as we can?


Let's get a nice drive and generate some momentum...


Hey everyone! Just think about next year, when we win about 600% more games than this year!


HEY LOOK ANOTHER FAILED SCREEN PASS


You play the game to win.
You play the game to win.
You play the game to win.


A slant route!! Why haven't we seen more of that?


A four yard run, why haven't we seen more of that?


600% of 0 is still 0.


OK, now anything but a dive.


3rd and 1...3/4 of a chance we don't convert..being generous


I was counting on one this year, JimK.


Teams should be blitzin us whenever we're in one back. It's just can we hit some boots and picks. Like 44 just did. Nice lil flare n slant previous play. We're movin it.

More play action. Purdues stackin the box.


oremus, as we used to say at mass, domer guy!


A holding penalty, why haven't we seen more of . . . oh, wait.


Hey guys, I just woke up from this terrible dream that we were 0 and 4 and we were getting it handed to us again in week 5. oh, wait a second........shit.


Robbie Paris is standing out of bounds 5 yards downfield on 3rd and ten....great job getting open IDIOT.

what happened to kamara/tate?


Clausen is a silky smoothe QB. Just can't do it all on his own.


Analyists are saying WR's are standin around. Could they show the big screen replay?

If they are, do you know what to do?

Comeback to the ball and find a window to the QB?


Who would have thought Geoff Price would be the backup punter in week 5? Did he get hurt or did Maust look that much better in practice this week?


Rustydevil:

As I asked, name a half dozen or so.


Price was just that awful against Mich State.

I guess Maust is going to make sure he doesn't get his job back


I would love seeing this game from an endzone view. As it is, this is like a radio broadcast.


C'mon, time for a 3 and out by the D.


It'd be nice to not give up 5+ on first down. Least we're playin field position. Holding on Walls?


Lush - I think the point that RD is trying to make is that we grinded through too many games last year that were supposed to be 'gimmes.' Coming off of '05, it seemed as though we'd have a good 6 or 7 games to get reserves in. BQ took every snap at QB, save a couple.

The cancer of the OL was becoming apparent last September. We all knew that too many starters were playing too many minutes.

HC is a tough position. CW is a proven pro-QB coach. He was a very successful high school football coach. We had another one, a while back, who also was so-so in South Bend. That guy recruited better than CW, but most of his players rotted.

Taking it to this level, Benn planted some future Heisman seeds today. AA is at the same level, but seems "slow" with us. We've lost the 'system' of football.

Go Irish

Go Irish


nope, pass interference


what did he say? there are SOFT SPOTS in our D?


Nope 3rd and a million.

OK 2nd and a million.


one man's view:
I know the personnel limits options, but Charlie seems conservative in the red zone....on those rare occasions when ND goes there.

Also, bad analysis by the announcers (Ware is brutal); there are in fact big holes for the running game, just no RBs to make things happen.


Lush - I think you're getting confused between "playing guys in big spots where the game is on the line" and "Giving some back-ups some real time when the Irish are up say 17 or so in the third quarter" instead of bringing in Sharpley for handoff duty with two minutes to go in the game


sdjfaslodfjldsajflaksdjfkldsa


They got the spot.


tackle....forget it


This team rushes the QB, pursues the ball, gets off blocks, and tackles like my friggin grandmother.


It's a rebuilding year. It's natural.


SO I can guess that the poor tackling continues?


Hey, we may not make good tackles, but we make good jockeys. McCarthy rode that hoss like he was Secretariat.


I'll bet iour grandma could do it better...


They are so soft there should be a Charmin sponsorship in place.


Bingo bingo bingo!


YES!!!


And the slant again!


Okay, I love Zibby, but he hasn't been "a great football player" for two years. Somebody please prove me wrong.


Alright, I'm calling it. If we score a TD here, we're gonna win this. Stone.


START KAMARA


kamara in...JC looking like a qb


Did I say switch routes? flat post/slant?


who's after Sharpley?


Domer Guy: Zbikowski was an All-American in 2006.


DON'T HURT YOURSELF, EVAN.


OKAY, NEVER MIND.


time for the first JC TDP


Tom:
Cite examples please.


Well then TZ shouldn't be standin around the pile or shuffling to the other side of the ball in pursuit.

Last year's done.

He needs to step up.


Zibby was a THIRD TEAM all-american in 2006, and I think that was based on (1) his 2005 season; and (2) the success of the team. Like I said, I love the guy, but just don't think he's been "a great football player" since then.


Today's color analyst, Andre Ware, started the Curse of the Heisman W's. When he won the award in '89, only Doak Walker, Charles White, and Herschel Walker were previous winners whose last names begin with a W.
After Ware won it, a whole bunch of W's won it and they were all busts on the next level. Charlie Ward, Danny Wuerffel, Charles Woodson, Ricky Williams, Chris Weinke, and Jason White. Interesting?


Zibby looks disinterested...Lambert and Wooden, just bad.


LOL, Charlie Jr. even looks sickened.


bootleg

TE underneath


What a catch by Carlson! And first passing TD. Nice play.


John Carlson? He didn't transfer?


TOUCHDOWN BABY


Hail Mary!!!

John Carlson way to step up!

The time is now!!!


gotta love Ware: "turns out it was a great call"


helluva catch....the kick, eh, not so much


Domer Guy -

Kinda wondering at this point -- does your grandma have eligibility left?


(Watching Yale crushing the Zips now)

Go Irish


Fitting. Very fitting.


Throw the team on your shoulders, John, and win this game!


Perhaps Andre Ware realizes now why the FG is not an option from any distance.


JC to JC!!!


If it wasn't so confusing...all ND players should wear # 666


LOL @ Alum Son.


john ryan smash...


This is looking good. A drop, tackle for a loss -- now stop them on 3rd down.


3 and out! woo hoo!


who was covering that guy who droped the flare pass


a stop? holy hell, we're getting field position!


And Purdue starting to look like Sparty!


Nice...


Wow, a short route on 3rd and 11. Don't they owe us royalties for that?


wait...did he just sat COVERAGE by Wooden?


Urgh, come on rook, we don't need that BS. (although I like the nastiness)


Answer: Nobody


what's with the crappy emo fadeouts?


More shots of Ware pumping iron? What a douche!


Ambrose...Wooden..."on the coverage"? What? This is a series of words I usually associate with "Touchdown, __________ (fill in ND opponent)"


Damn! Watching the Elis for no more than 10 minutes, and .. I miss our '07 offense!

Voice - the guy who really ended the Heisman was Gino Torretta. The guy was a true "Weekend at Bewrnie's" at QB. And, our Rocket not winning it pretty much ended the legitimacy of the award.

Go Irish


If we were to actually come back and win this game, wouldn't Joe Tiller's reaction be funny?


Voice - I'm pretty sure no one would notice Tiller, because Ware's stroke followed by head implosion would take center stage


Did anyone else just see the Arelio's pizza commercial? "Quality, quantity, annnnnd value."


Slant to Kumara.
Slant to Kumara.
Slant to Kumara.
Slant to Kumara.
Slant to Kumara.
Slant to Kumara.
Slant to Kumara.
Slant to Kumara.


Embarassing and stupid play by Brian Smith. Lucky not to get a 15 yard personal foul and automatic first down for Purdue. Too many silly personal fouls by this team this year...


It's kind of obvious, but this is the best quarter of ND football this year. Turnaround, or anomaly?


ouch!

Go Irish


HOW THE HELL DOES SHARPLEY NTO SEE THAT BLITZER. IT WAS REALLY LATE TOO.

jesus christ


What's wrong with Clausen? I think I missed something.


Because Sharpley can only see within the "QB Vision Cone" from Madden.


We'll get this.


4th and 1..can we?


The offensive line looks better...


GET THIS.


LOL Andre WAre still loving that ND kicking game. "decision time" . good grief


JC is just adding drama to the comeback when he leads the Irish to their first victory of the year and first under his direction......4th and 1.......flksadjflkadsjfoadsjfladskjfdsaljfl; kdsajfads;lfkads;lfjafsdlkjfl;aksdjfals;djfalkdfj; adslkj


No run play!

Go Irish


Claussen is a warrior - could see it inthe PSU game


we

cant

get

one

yard


Pathetic.

Go Irish


Sooper-Genius play calling strikes again!


Hey, line, fellas, one of you might want to block that Heygood dude. Just sayin'.


zibby - whiff!


Zibby...disinterested...he looks like he wishes he were back in Buffalo Grove


Zbikowski -- a "pretty good safety" -- or something.


Good point by the announcers about the reverse pivot hand-off not being a good choice for 4th-and-1. 4th-and-1 and we can't get 1 yard? So much for a power running game.


time....


Is Purdue a top 5 team? I've been asleep since immediately after the Ga Tech game.


They should paint the lockers of every offensive lineman pink this week. They stink. 1 yard is all about guts, and we got none.


Tom Pagna said this week that the deep one back set on short yardage takes too long to get to the LOS especially with our run blocking as inadequate as it has been - he recommended two back set just 3 yards behind LOS to get there quickly with two options. Weiss has been stopped two or three times on 4th and short with the same deep one back set. Makes you wonder


You guys are about a minute ahead of my yahoo feed. The comments are hilarious.

Junior Jabbie on 4th down?


3rd & 22.....no replay of the first half please.


Corwin's getting worked silly.


let me correct my spelling -Weis-


Ok - the game ended with that 4th and 1. With that, some pretty good things in the D holding this offense scoreless for 11 minutes in the 3rd qtr, and the beginnings of a passing game.

Improvement this week, but still an enormous need for these kids to work with college level coaches. If we can bring some in to work with CB, we can be a team.

Alabama at FSU tonight.

Go Irish


FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

BENCH BRIAN SMITH!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Another STUPID play by Brian Smith. Welcome to the bench, son. This is not a disciplined football team.


Brian Smith should never play again


Clausen needs to look the defenders away. He telegraphs every pass...that might have been OK at Oaks Christian...but...wee're playing mighty Purdue!!


Personal foul? Are you kidding?

Criqui said it just now "There's little more that can be said at times about the incompetence of this team..."

I think he's getting a bit upset and letting the alum come through...


Sorry. I don't agree. Painter was still in bounds when Smith took a shot. We need more guys who want to hit!!!!


That was complete bullshit!


Another personal foul, excellent!


criqui is telling it like it is


Smith jumps offsides AGAIN!


3 straight...


Ah, they're trying to resolve Zeno's paradox by penalties...


Criqui: "Brian Smith again...they *MIGHT* want to take him out..."


Way to follow the receiver, Wooden


this is friggin brilliant

good thing that personal foul isn't going to directly lead to a TD

eff, it's hard being a fan now


WTF?? That was 5 yards out of bounds.


not catchable?


Andre Ware doesn't care about physics.


Wow, the refs get one right.


i just hope USC beats the University of Willingham by 50 tonight...that might let me read the sports page tomorrow


Way to follow the receiver, again, Wooden


21 Irish points in the 4th makes it 27-26. Could it happen?


Why has this broadcast become the Andre Ware show?


Could've been a death blow, but the D didn't give up. Next possession is huge.


no


thats what I thought, Jim


way to show those moves/quickness/speed, Armando


How 'bout them Hoosiers?


Charming. The Purdouche students in blackface.


JC's arm still not 100%?


So tate is GONE...great WR...and we TAKE HIM OUT OF THE GAME

WHY


We won the 3rd quarter!!!


We won the 3rd quarter!!!


We won the 3rd quarter!!!


Go Irish


0-5...better than 0-8!


On the radio they're saying it's Clausen's side, not his arm--is the TV saying differently?


No, they're saying hips/legs.


Nate - it's not his arm, he has a left hip pointer


there's no hope, and yet somehow I keep hoping for a miracle


Did this injury happen within the last week?


Clausen doubled over in obvious pain...appears to be his ribs or abdomen.


Okay--Domer Guy's comment about the arm made me wonder.

Man, 3:40 Am is way too early for this. The wife is passed out on the couch, and I'm fighting hard to not join her...


LL - happened on the crunch he took when he completed a pass. Then he got crunched again. And again.


Why run anything besides that slant?


I could never root for USC against anyone, but esp. against the Huskies today - all the best Ty, go get 'em.

Good man, poor recruiter.


compared to Aldridge, Hughes and Allen...Jabbe almost looks fast


F --- Ty...his fingerprints are all over these losses...


JC played a gutsy game. Please God, do not let Weis feed him to the wolves in the 4th. And by wolves, I mean a mediocre Sun Bowl bound team that will probably give up 50 to OSU next week.


that "shout" thing was the lamest thing I've ever seen


Every UDUB loss reveals the TRUTH!


OMFG!!!


TATE SHOULD BE ON EVERY PLAY.


Tate ROCKS!


Who cares about 0 and forever. They're playin with heart. The smurfs have made an appearance. The offensive line is the story. They finally got all of the blitz pickups. Well done. We look competitive now. Great job defense! They forced field goals. I'm proud to be an Irish fan!

4th down and whata catch by Golden!!!!

The comeback!!!


Can we transport to two years from now when these guys are all juniors?


Golden Tate is a gamer!!


Smurf Alert!!!


OMIGOD, THE FUCKER CAUGHT IT!


Tate & Kamara to start next week, dangit!


We are the midget Patriots. Outs/Slants/comebacks


AWWWWWday


Right on, T! They're PLAYING.


carlson...standing around


Ummm, ND may not want Sharpley running like that.


Andre the (Mental) Midget


6 points!


"don't call it a comeback"

signed,

LL Cool J


YES!!!

(how about 2 pt try and an onside kick here??)


Dooooo-Val


Yes!!! Purdue's gonna regret that SHOUT routine.


Ho. Lee. Shit.

Let's do this.


Hahahaha...you can only laugh.


PAT??? omg


Kamara!!!

Duvall Kamara!!!

What the kids who catch eat their Flinstone vitamins this weekend?

Two score game; okay three score game. Cant get the free space!!!


I'm all for 2-pt conversions the rest of the way...


...and only 6 points


Wow, this kicking game is downright Daviean.


R U SRS?

WE CAN HAS XTR PT PLZ? PLZ????


We should have, at the very least, two more points than we currently do.


Tate and Kamara should play every offensive down.

And we should always go for 2-pt conversions.


Who says we don't have good receivers? Look out for the freshmen.


I'm sure that missed PAT was Willingham's fault too...at least I'm blaming him.


The Shout Tradition is almost as cool as pounding the "Play Like a Champion" board. Purdue is Pitiful!!


2-pt. conversions and we're 7 down.


Okay, there've been 3 comments, so I have to ask--what's this "shout" tradition?


Okay, D--let's keep it going, you've gotten rest. Let's GOOOO!!!


Nate - in another ESPN "lets not show the actual game but something else" move, they showed Drew Brees "firing up the crowd" to dance to the song "shout"


Nate, evidently we took the 1812 Overture, so they settled for the Isley Brothers.


pat/redondo -

I guess you're willingham stuff is so ridiculous its now humorous. well played.


Drew Brees led the Shout during a TV timeout.


Yeah Drew Brees looked like a damn fool during Shout. That's one goofy bastard.


T,
Don't get too excited about our O, Toledo scored 24 on this defense and Central Michigan 22.


Oops, missed that last PU FG there...


Okay, gotcha...almost glad AFN's not showing the game now...


"Shout" was released by the Isley Brothers in 1959. Purdue you are on the cutting edge of a very dull blade.


I'd like a dumb special teams penalty for ten yards, Alex.


Joe Tiller lost his virginity to "Shout."


Nate, where u be?


ST continue to kill us


Nate-
It's some horseshit thing where a Purdue celebrity (Oxymoron) hollers over the P.A. System something brilliant, like, "Hey Purdue. Are you ready to shout!?" And then the band plays the You Make Me Wanna Shout song from Animal House. Lame-o. Downright embarrassing.


Imagine if this team (other than the D) had coaching?

Go Irish


ST? more like ET.


thought it was 1969...the Isleys played in the ACC that season


Nah, they're just "special" with quotation marks.

YAAAAAAAAAAAAY!


Do you guys think that ND's QB will ever have as much time to throw as Painter has had? The TV folks keep going on about routes and QB/receiver communication, but it's getting tiresome watching the Irish QB have little time and the opposing QB have all day. It feels like it's been that way this entire millennium. Sorry, had to vent.

Nice stop by the defense. Let's go Sharpley!


Unrelated question...does anyone have any idea where I can find the Cal/Oregon game in Chicago (Lincoln Park area)? I know I'm in the middle of Big Televen country and all....


Shhhhh, DG, we're actually watching this game now.

HOLY SHIT, WE LEAD IN TOTAL YARDS.


DROPPPPPPPPPPP.


No!!!!!!!!!!


CLUTCH!!!


Here Come The Irish......


WOW. Charlie has ginormous balls!


Ah, there's that crazy robot genius I remember. :)


Wow. Did we have Wheaties for breakfast this morning or what??


Parris looked like Samardzija on that one!!


At least Charlie goes for it; pretty much all coaches would kick to protect the "respectable loss". I dont want Andre Ware on the short list for ND coach after the Weis era btw.


onehipdad--Japan.


No, I got it: we gave EVERYONE chicken soup at halftime.


Carlson...shades of Bavaro.


Nooo.... 4th and 1. Why couldn't it be 4th and 7?


A SNEAK! Wow!


Quarterback sneak every 4 & 1


Finally a QB sneak.


LOOKING SHARP!!


We'll always have Parris.


This morning could get a whole lot better if this keeps up...


A swing pass that worked! Wow!


Nice, Voice. :-)


post of the year, Voice.


I was just going to compliment our line too


We're setting 'em up for 4th down.


God dammit, block someone on that screen.


WOOWOWO!~@)#*!_@#


Holy TATE!


GT is unbelievable.


INSANE!!!


I LOVE YOU GOLDEN TATE.


GOLDEN TATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! (arelius benn who?)


HOLY SH*T!!!


LOOKING GOLDEN.


The dogs just jumped as I yelled "YES!!!"


Tate=HANDS...holy cow


Thanks Lou ntL and Nate. But really, I never could have done it without the horses up front. They did all the work, and I just punched it in.


Dammit, who ruined our good extra point?


"If you're trying to win games, you go to Evan Sharpley." Here's hoping Mr. Ware knows what he's talking about.


Did someone finally tell them we're playing football at halftime or something???

My Lord, I love Tate and Kamara...


ok, I just scared the hell out of the cat ;-) when I screamed. She was sound asleep at my side and flew away


This is ridiculous.


hold your breath.........


go for 2


Suddenly, our cynical laughter at the text message (the one from the ND-hater that ND will be "scary" when Weis has his "own guys") seems kind of stupid.


yes


why dont we go for 2???


WE DID IT!!!


I like our chances at making 1 of 2 2pt conversion than 2 of 2 extra point kicks.

Ok, now it's 1 of 1 extra points, but I'd still be tempted to go for 2. :)


That PAT made the officials want to shout! Put their hands up, and SHOUT!


GOLDEN TATE VS. A HURRICANE. WHO WINS?


Marchand - it was Sam Young


BUT WHAT IF THE HURRICANE IS NAMED "HURRICANE TATE?"


Lou ntL....LOL


Nice one, Lou ntL!


we can do this...Big Mo is wearing gold and navy blue at the moment.


t2: figures.


I hope CW plays Sharpley the rest of the season so we can win 3 games instead of 2...who cares about next season?


Evidently we're going for two if we score again.


Lou Holtz has Mark May in a headlock right now.


there was no need to go for 2, its now a seven point game, but next time they score theyre going for 2


I'm nervous.


Ooh. Did you see Clausen gimping through the TD celebration? I wonder how Bragg is feeling these days.


this game reminds me of the MSU game last year


Come on, D! TURNOVER!


that penalty didnt help


my god, walls


man, walls is not looking to good today.


I wish every receiver who bitched about a flag got 15 yards for unsportsmanlike conduct.


Come on D!


gibby...disinterested


Score at the time: 26-19. ESPN headline: Purdue crushing ND. Bastards.


actually, Pinkett and Criqui said the guy was wide open, and said it was a good job by Walls to get the penalty and only give up 15.


Our D is too spread out to stop their runs. LB's need to fill faster.


No argument there, marchand.


Would someone please tell me the score? I don't have cable TV in my igloo.


Nate, they were wrong. Walls never let Orton get open because he had a grip on his jersey.


Sharpley is playing well, but these announcers can stop jerking off to him anytime now.


Take it easy announcers. You can both fight over who gets to carry Evan Sharpley's books to class next week after the game.


how could he be "wide open"...Walls had him in a headlock..


amen


Bleh.


Jeeze, Crum


Okay, okay--I'm just saying what Criqui and Allen said on the radio, guys. Don't take MY head off!


A moral "V" nonetheless.

Go Irish


Let's score in the twenties, Irish!


Touchdown Purdue pretty much insures Oh-for-September.


that was not a touchdown...but saves some time


hey, its still only a 14 point game...


Those morons kicked it to Tate. He's lucky he didn't run it all the way to Logansport.


I really don't want Illinois to win, but it is fun to watch Morelli scramble for a 1st and goal, only to fumble it.


Short field, Sharpley to Tate a few times and retake the mo.


Step 1


Tate and Parris look really good...all season


Wow -- footwork by Sharpley!


my thoughts exactly lou


A personal foul? On them? Don't they owe us royalties or something?


(Yes, I used that joke already. I don't care.)


Step 1: Cut a hole in a box.


kinda weak call, but I'll take it


15 yard penalties help, for sure.


The O-line is owning Purdue right now.


VitW: winner. Fatality. Flawless victory.


Damn....


Rats.


Well, it was fun while it lasted.


Charlie is so fucking stupid. I hate him. Tate has been amazing and he's on the bench?

Fuck you, CW.


both clausen and sharpley have no 2nd or 3rd receivers. They pick one guy out before the snap and force it no matter how well covered


game over


All in all, the game where the mo, ever so slowly, started to turn.

Go Irish


Okay, D, hold 'em so we can beat the spread.


A little respect, and maybe crawling out of the 100+ ranks in the NCAA for offense? This game isn't a total loss.

Well it is a total loss, but you know...


That's a coaching problem


Seriously, why is Tate not playing every offensive snap?


Aw, nuts.


That does seem true, Jim / rb. Although they have used swing passes a few times.


Andre Ware school of color commentary:
1. Praise plays that work
2. Criticize plays that dont work
3. Wash Evan Sharpley's balls.


Sure hope you're right, Bill H.


walls looks like lambert


the spread was 22...22 against us...


Andre Ware makes Allen Pinkett sound listenable.


You can bring a highway barrel into the stadium?


Who was sent on the blitz on that long pass? Too slooowww.


wooden looks like wooden


Alum Son,

4. State the obvious.
5. Re-wash E.S.'s bag.


As long as ND's not playing Tennessee, Hoya.


Should we be getting worried about Walls?


Pete Carroll Vs. Ty W?

Who do you prefer to lose?


"Sharpley...trying to go back to the well. You squeezed that first TD into Carlson"

These guys really are idiots. My wife was shocked when they listed their top 5 quarterbacks and it wasnt:

Sharpley
Sharpley
Sharpley
Sharpley
Sharpley


I think Tim Tebow is waiting to read #6 on your list.


いったいなんで勝てないんだ?でも、一年生の選手はいいな。


jeeze, Walls


Looks like Walls just answered that question for me.


...and Illinois beats PSU. wow.


George, USC is on the schedule this season, so I have to cheer for them.


Nate, I'm not sure what you said, but I feel I think I saw a girl with that tattooed on the small of her back.


wtf is this douche painter doing?


Where did ESPN get these announcers? Did they ask to borrow a couple of clowns the last time the circus was in Bristol?


Criqui: "and no game, NOT ANY, means as much to Purdue as beating Notre Dame..."

So at least they'll have something to put on their bowl loss rings...


Painter is a LOSER!


no...Painter won


WTF is painter doing? classless...


Ware likes UCLA and USC over ND this year. You just cant get this stuff anywhere else but from the world wide leader.


Painter's kneel down was the absolute most douchiest in the history of football. What a tool.


Crum really showed some NASTY breaking through the D line on that last play that Painter knelt down.


Just venting, Obedaiah. Loosely, "Why the heck can't we win ONE game? But at least the freshman looked good..."


Bottom line: We're improving, getting better each week. Tipping point will be when we overcome the Big I.

I-N-E-P-T-I-T-U-D-E


what did painter do?


see ya'll


What is Painter doing? Criqui's saying he's just "collapsing"--they were wondering if he was okay.


Good point, Nate. The TV intro for the PU defense was by Coach Brock Spack, who said something about about ND/PU being one of the best rivalries in college football. Am I snooty for raising an eyebrow?


hes not just kneeling it... hes like waiting until someone is about to touch him, then collapses.


LOOOOUUUU


Painter was just fucking with us, it looked like he semi-taunted on the last play by not going down right away


instead of just taking a knee painter does a bunch of effeminate sidesteps for a few seconds and then instantaneously assumes the fetal position in mid-air and then falls to the ground.

He even did this on the last play of the game after the clock had run out he's still dosey-do-ing to the sidelines.


he's an artist... come on guys.


Lou liked ND's play on 4th down. 4th and longer than 1, he should say.


Upon getting the snap Painter, stepped back, and then fell on his side like someone shot him with a .45. I've never seen anything like it. And he did it three times. All the respect I begrudgingly had for him just went out the window. Dick.


I don't know -- he was probably trying to make sure the clock would run out. The "collapsing" probably stems from the diving that was evident from some of his teammates.


It's kind of hard to say something nasty when they just beat us by 2 TD's, but here goes: We're not rivals. Just because we are in the same state, does not make us rivals. Just because you've finally been good a bit in the last decade, coinciding with a time period of us not being good, does not make us rivals. Rivalry is more than a few years of competitiveness. Your rival is Indiana. It is not our fault the Big 10 has no natural rivals of quality for you. Do not blame us, and do not drag us into your quagmire with you.

/rant


PAINTER was taunting. On the second one that should have been flagged


He's the QB at Purdouche, what did you expect?


Sounds classy.


be good losers, boys


Well, ND plays Purdue next year, right? They'll get another shot at Painter in this "rivalry".


Curtis Painter just gave the Irish something to remember for next time.

When the lion's asleep, the mouse come to kick him, but watch out when the lion wakes up.

Also, it takes a village idiot to raise a Painter.


Sleep? Or Oregon/Cal? Tough decisions....


Jim redondo beach: show me a good loser and I will show you a loser, goes the cliche


I still don't think Sharpley is the answer. He's got a good arm, but makes lousy decisions (could have run for the 1st before the 4th and long to Tate), chose to chuck a high one to Kamara; missed the open receiver (west, I think) when he forced the ball into coverage to Carlson in the endzone....

still, can't complain


The real question, now, is whether there's hope for the next three games. I have to agree with Mark May as far as thinking MSU and PU were the best chances for victories. UCLA's a long road trip against a team that owes us one from last year, and bc and USC are just plain good teams.


Oh, OK...lets all call the winning QB a douche. Ready? 1, 2, 3...


Hate to lose, but how refreshing to get excited for a stretch in the 4th and scream about some great plays. Saw a lot more fight in the Irish today.

GO IRISH!


Next game, find eleven who want to play, and let them go both ways! Laws blocking on offense, Golden Tate at DB, Carlson rushing the passer. You get my drift. Rockne would approve.


Douche!


Jim, not trying to be a bad loser--but that move by Painter sure sounds like they were being bad winners.

More of promise, though I wish we'd built on last week a bit more. Sadly, I think that was our best chance for a win for a while.


That might be the best plan, Voice. Better than squirrels for sure.


The first half was awful. The whole season I've assumed we would be a nasty team in 2 years, but this week several freshman stepped up to give a preview.

I don't know about Sharpley/Clausen. Sharpley still looked mostly oblivious to anything not to directly in front of him. He had the vertical passing we haven't seen from Clausen - but even with HDTV networks refuse to show past the line of scrimmage, so I have no clue who has been open.

Sharpley made his point to start next week. But, unlike the announcers, I don't think that Clausen started next week would eclipse the Holocaust in travesties of mankind.


Lou ntL...I have no idea what you're talking about. ;>)


Voice, are you saying you're sober this week? Is that just because the game started earlier, or is it a sign of progress?

Obediah, I'd go a step further and say that Clausen should start if he's healthy. My impression of Weis is that he will handle it that way.


I can't afford another B.U.I. (Blogging under the influence).


Smart. I guess I'll sign off. For my part, I postponed mowing the lawn until AFTER the game this week. That's progress. Enjoy the rest of the games, all!


Peace, out.


If Clausen is healthy, he will clearly start. Come on. You guys are all drones if you buy into the "controversy" created by the ESPN announcer.

Yes, Sharpley cam in and did well, and I'm very happy to see that. But Clausen did nothing to lose the starting job. He went 18/26 (69%) and threw two picks trying to make something happen (which is actually nice to see...)

IF Clausen is healthy, there is NO QB controversy.


Don't humor him.

Anyways, I thought the play calling in the second half was very good. Thoughts?


I think these guys are turning the corner. They could have packed it in the second half but they didnt. We still have a lot of work to do, we need to do a better job getting off the ball offensively. Pass blocking was much improved today. Two turnovers and a 15 yard penalty that kept a drive alive was worth 9 points against us. the defense played much better in the second half when they got a little energy from the offense. I think that Charlie did a great job today. He totally shocked me coming out throwing. We can have a vertical passing game, we should have a better screen game than we do, the OLine needs to do a better job on screens. Sharpley played very well as did JC, I wish Sharpley wouldnt have made that bad decision, but we came right back down the field and that is a good sign. Go Irish


ESPN's poll question should be: Who will suffer the ignominy of losing to the Irish this year?


Doug-

I agree, and I think every else does too. Penalties and special teams. Ugh. It's frustrating because it was so close. We bailed them out so many times. We need to get special teams fixed ASAP. They should start recruiting the soccer team for kickers and hire an ACTUAL special teams coach. This "coach by committee" bs with special teams is killing us.


It seemed to me that the stupid squib kick on the kickoff after the Tate touchdown hurt us. Instead of a touchback, and Pdue starting on their 20, they got the ball at the 40 odd, penalty penalty, td momentum turns


ND football...more 100+ yard penalty games, more bad snaps, more poor execution. It is no longer Willyham's fault.


Wow, ND 0-5 and the Hoosiers at 4 wins with Minnesota, Ball State, and Northwestern still to play, have a good shot to go bowling. What a crazy year to be in Indiana.


^ Moron who can't spell.


Special teams again and again. With a young team, field position and those 5 points off of a missed FG and two PATs are very important.


Voice-

How has Charles Woodson been a "bust" in the NFL?


I think this game is important because Charlie can go to his team and say "Guys, we should have won this one" - and show them a few bad plays that ended ND drives or kept Purdue drives alive.

It's all hocus-pocus because without the big lead at half time Purdue likely wouldn't have gone to sleep. But psychologically, I think rather than being happy because we played better, we can take the step up to being pissed because we didn't win.


gwzimm...look for some positives. This team played well in the second half, they easily could have gotten blown completely out. This score was actually closer than the final score. Penalties, bad snaps are not the coaches fault. The only penalties that you can blame the coaches on are personal fouls and that comes from a freshman. We gave them 9 and could have had 5 more, but this team played with some heart the second half. We moved the ball right down the field after they made it 33-19. Did anyone catch what they said about Tiller, he said this team is tied for the most seniors that he has had. We played a much better game in the second half and despite the outcome, I am proud of the way these kids played.


Obediah, I agree at least this week. We could have won this game. We dont give them the 9 and we score the 5 now it is tied. That makes the play by Sharpley that much more important.We could have won this game, maybe the new practice mentality is starting to pay off.


i would like to see michigan and msu replaced on the schedule by the indiana hoosiers and the indiana state sycamores


As always... in Dylan's world ND goes 11-1.


Hoosiers beat the stout-D Iowa 38-28. Re-think.


Off topic, but a news report in Michigan today was that the Skunkbears are under investigation for using an ineligible player the first four games. They said that if that is found to be true, they will have to forfeit their first two wins.


Good job spreading false propaganda.. Michigan conformed to NCAA admission rules, but not Big-10's. So even if there is a forfeiture, it'd be the Penn State game. And since Michigan self-reported the mistake, the probability that it happens is extremely low. Not to mention, that player is a special team scrub.

So that elusive win.. is still elusive.


Just reporting what was on the news in Michigan, Johnny Ahole...are you from Michigan? It was reported that he played in all 4 games and it is hard to believe that the Big Ten would have stricter rules than the NCAA.


Not worried about the win, just another blackeye on the Skunkbears.


Crum finally looked NASTY...too bad it was on the last play of the game.


It was reported that he played in all 4 games and it is hard to believe that the Big Ten would have stricter rules than the NCAA.

In particular instances, they do. For example, if you leave a Big 10 school, and transfer to another Big 10 school, the new school cannot give you a scholarship (think of Jeff George when he went from Purdue to Illinois).


DJ, it was reported that he was a freshman. I only heard this from someone who listened to the radio news report. Im not spreading propaganda, just wondering if anyone heard about this and had any other news. Johnny seems to know a lot about the skunkbears, so he must know. I think it would be a shame if they had to forfeit their win to PSU, snickering, but the Big Ten will never penalize Michigan or Ohio St.


Against most teams, a 23-0 halftime lead should have rendered the game moot. That Notre Dame was able to get to within a touchdown with 7 to go...well, this is Purdue we're talking about. The game truly was out of reach when the defense was unable to hold Purdue, and they scored the final touchdown.

Very poor first half. Special teams remain a joke. Kamara and Tate were both excellent.

One other thing...if anyone of importance at ND is reading this, can you make sure that with the new radio contract, you absolutely make sure that Chet Coppock is NOT involved in any way with the broadcast? Post-game, I was so infuriated with his stupidity, I was tempted to drive right into the biggest tree I could find.


No, I hadn't heard the report, Doug. Thanks for the info. Perhaps we'll hear more later.


rockslide,
My bad. Woodson hasn't been a bust as a pro football player. As far as the Heisman W's go, his NFL career may be the best one of all.


Doug, Doug. Bitter old Doug. Just happy to see the Wolverines-err, I mean, skunkbears (I'm so clever!!)-make a mistake. After a month replete with mistakes on Notre Dame's (Notre LAME!!!!) end, does it brighten your day to see others make erros?


They've got "Shout", we've got "Call me Al." Neither is immune from lameness.


Someone who uses "Notre Lame" in a sentence has no right to call anyone else lame for using "Skunkbears."


Rockslide, Im not bitter at all. I just wanted to know if anyone knows of or heard anymore about this. I take my lumps like anyone else.


your smrt,


you cant spell


Blackeye for sure, just like your Linebacker who took a cheap shot at Curtis Painter, for which a flag wasn't thrown. But they threw for his late hit down the sideline, the very next play.

So why can't Painter repay that with a nifty little celebration?


your even smrter: doug.


Ok guys, time to get out of your parents basements and go have some fun. I log on to see two guys fighting like school girls. Grow up.


Off topic a little, but too humorous to pass up (besides the 1st half) -

Did anyone catch the post game last night of the USF-WV game? If so, did u notice the sign being held up behind the player being interviewed?
Priceless- it said "WV #1 (next line) In Incest"

Ok--admit it, u smiled!!


You are right Mike, I apologize to all ND fans for my childishness. This board should be an open discussion about the Irish. My apologies and I wont allow that to happen again


I would be satisfied to not see Grimes start ever again at ND. Kamara, West, and Tate all provide better options.


I also motion to remove John Ryan from starting on defense. He maintains no edge for the defense and continues to pussy foot his pursuit towards the QB when he rolls out to the flat.


brian, Grimes did well, but dont forget Robby Parris


Ryan played well, I think the freshmen LBs will be standouts in the future though.


Brian Q-

Motion dismissed. You may return to dungeons and dragons.


umm no thanks Judge.


Grimes is not a threat to any defense - his best plays are finding space when the QB is scrambling. He would not start on any team we have faced so far.

Ryan has only made plays when pressure is forced from other players like Laws etc.


Paris reminds me a bit of Matt Shelton. If our line play was more consistent in run- and pass-blocking, the offense would actually be good.


the offense is improving...run blocking needs to improve. I would say get Duncan off the field first. He is atrocious...


DJ- I don't really agree with that comparison. Shelton was more of speed/deep-threat type of receiver. Parris (not Paris) is much more of a possession guy, and has 4 inches on Shelton.


I think Parris could be another Shark, he goes after the ball...Grimes is a good possession receiver....makes catches in tight areas....we can have a very good receiving corps and if we end up getting Michael Floyd it could be outstanding next year.


I really do not see anything in Grimes as being the #1 starter for our current WR corps. Again, he would not be starting on any team we have faced so far. I like him as a third option matched up against a LB or SS or 2nd stron nickel back. He has not done anything spectacular to help this team against a starting CB.


We just found a passing game today, Brian and he got injured. Give the kid a little bit of a break.....


So, I didn't see the game today. Long story. Why don't I see any stats for Aldridge and Hughes. It looks like Armando Allen got the carries. Is that true? What happened to our ground game?


I don't like weis.
But what I dislike more.. is the complacency of doing better. While we should be more hopeful for the coming weeks - the way chuck is becoming complacent is scary.


yikes.

got called into work today and wasn't all that upset. that hasn't happened in decades. sad.

at some point the talking heads will start asking if this is one of the worst ncaa teams ever.


How did Weis become complacent. He was calling plays trying to win the game. Going for it on 4th down, calling plays to win, that isnt complacent to me. He showed more fire today than he has all season. This was a veteran Purdue team and we were there at the end. If CW was complacent then he would have packed it in at halftime.


Forget the talking heads, you don't need their oppinions to figure this out.

I beg of the fans to stop becoming complacent - you need to put this in perspective. We havn't had a scoring drive without a 40 yard play. Jump balls dont work against actual secondaries. (sharpley did have 2 nice throws)
We are really bad - mostly because the coaching staff isn't putting the players in a position to win.


Doug, his post game speaches have the tone of complacency - that's what I meant to say.


This year, much has been made of Mr. Weis' supposed "accomplishments." He won a few more games than last year, but this year's schedule was anomalously light. Let's not forget that Tyrone lead the squad to the exact same record his first year. As mentioned above, Weis faced only two teams that had anywhere near our raw talent level, but he managed to lose three games. Let's take a quick look at our opponents in the "glorious" victories this season.

Pittsburg - Dave Wandstadt ran that program into the ground in record time, finishing with a 5-6 overall record that includes losses to perennial powerhouses such as Ohio University and Rutgers.

Michigan - Just didn't have the talent to keep up, but Weis kept them in the game anyway. They finished with the best record of any team we beat this season (an awful 7-5), with losses to Minnesota, and Nebraska.

Michigan State - The Spartans once again finished bowl ineligible with a 4-7 record. Among their loses was a 40 point drubbing by a powerhouse Northwestern team. Should we be credited with our win when there was absolutely no way Charlie could have lost this game? Ohh, wait, nevermind.

Washington - Washington brought on embattled coach Ty Willingham, but the Huskies could not match the Irish in talent in any position. Try as he might to botch another "unloseable" game, Weis was able to pull out a close one. Washington also finished the year bowl ineligible with a stellar 2-9 record.

Purdue - Another Irish victory against another bowl ineligible team. Picking up the trend yet? Purdue finished the year 5-6.

BYU - Finally, we beat a .500 team! BYU closed the season at 6-6 with a very impressive loss to an always-competitive Texas Christian squad.

Tennessee - Like the Michigan team, this is another case of a traditional power having their worst season in two decades. Tennessee went 5-6 overall with an impressive loss to an unequivocally terrible Vanderbilt team.

Navy - We beat a service academy. Wow. Navy finished 7-4.

Syracuse - Quite possibly the worst team on the schedule (and that takes some effort). The Orange finished 1-10.

Stanford - Not much better than Syracuse. Despite going 5-6 (including a loss to division 1-AA Cal-Davis), Weis let the Irish be backed into a corner. We had more talent in every position. It really is a sad testament to Weis' coaching that this game came down to a heroic last second drive by Brady Quinn. Ask yourself, should it have been that close?


Hiloo...

You can can take your "complacency" argument and stick it. It's a nice straw man. I can only speak for myself for sure, but I hear/read A LOT of serious criticism about this team. Much of it is on this blog, if you actually read it. We're getting better, but we still suck. That's all there is to it.

And you might as well stop wasting your keystrokes on the '05 season. That horse is D-E-A-D.


Doug, his post game speaches have the tone of complacency - that's what I meant to say.
Hilookatthis


If you listened to the same post-game speech today that I did, then your analysis of post-game speeches is as poor as your analysis of "this season" (to those of us in the real world, the 2005 season).


I don't think anyone on this board is saying that Clausen has played great, "Evan." Unlike you, we are a bit more sophisticated and can ascribe the proper amount of blame to the offensive line, the running backs, and the receivers.


Not to interupt some heated debates...but has anyone noticed anything suspicious about the Washington throw back uniforms?


Wow we're playing a doubleheader.

At least, we're getting our USC wipeout out of the way...


I'd throw you the ball, but you can't even crack the WR rotation. Obviously, I'm sophisticated enough to count to 48.

Unassisted? I think not.

Not to interupt some heated debates...but has anyone noticed anything suspicious about the Washington throw back uniforms?

No, it's just a coincidence. The subject came up on Paul Lukas's Uni Watch blog this week. Back in 1960 (which the throwback honors) Washington did, in fact, wear navy blue jerseys. I think they wore navy blue until the mid-70s, when they finally wore their official school color, purple.


Washington looks just like us - no W's


I guess if you can't play the part you can at least look the part.


It's not an exact replica, of course. When I was very young, Sports Illustrated had UW QB Sonny Sixkiller on the cover (great name, no?). Metallic gold helmet, manila-colored canvas pants, a jersey so dark it looked like it was black, and yellow numbers kind of like the color of USC. Still remember it...


They're trying to lull USC into complacency by convincing them they're playing ND...

Either way, since UW had to punt that last good drive, USC is still on schedule to win by 31..


Regarding the QB discussion, CW said on his presser after the game that he would have to evaluate the film and see how Clausen feels. He expressed confidence in Sharpely but said the number one evaluation attribute he uses is passing accuracy, and Clausen has been more accurate than Sharpley. Nevertheless, it will be interesting to see what he thinks after reviewing the film and evaluating Clausen's injury.


And we are not the scapegoats everytime your goldenboy locks onto receivers and holds the ball too long. We know he's a freshman, he's poised and he's courageous but a once-in-10-years recruit, he's not.


Oh my God.Ty Willingham just said on ABC that Notre Dame is Charlie Weis' team; not HIS team. That lazy golfing MF'er!!!! I'm having a terrible time rooting for either USC or Washington right now!!!!!!


Ty...Ty ...Ty ...the reason this Notre Dame team doesn't look like anything you remember is because all your recruits from your last two years are tackling dummies on prep O and prep D.


Nothing like listening to Brent Cheeseburger. What an announcer.


Man, Musburger is making me puke the way he strokes Willingham. Chauncey must have really pulled the wool over his eyes in their little sitdown.


the arrogance here is pretty cool. washington 7. usc 0 in case you're watching. i realize you were the first team ever to wear gold helmets and blue jerseys but keep blaming the season on ty. it makes for better drama.


Anybody know why Derrell Hand apparently didn't play today? Also, Romine (injured arm) and Harrison Smith (no reason known) both didn't make the trip.


Wow Auburn has 3 freshman starting O-line and leading UF 14-0 at the swamp. Interesting.


There was a little fight in the Irish today. We just had to wait until halftime to adjust . . . . again. Better late than never . . . sigh.


Irish in the Ville -

I heard that too about the 3 freshment on Auburn's OL starting. Their offensive line started out slow this year but apparently are developing with each game. Another example to which compare ND's lack of OL development this year.


I've noticed a fair number of you seem to be Yankees fans...New York City is a fair distance away from South Bend/Chicago...please explain the attraction, as the Yankees are even more repulsive to a neutral observer than is ND...and that's not easy to do.


The Rock Report said o-lines generally gel at game 5. While performance was better than previous games, I was disappointed that we couldn't run the ball better, especially against a PU defense that hasn't been known for stopping the run.


Yes, PU was the least physical team we have played so far and the next three games will be with teams that have more physical defensive lines. it was disappointing.


I've noticed a fair number of you seem to be Yankees fans...New York City is a fair distance away from South Bend/Chicago...please explain the attraction

I happen to be from Chicago, and a White Sox fan.

Notre Dame is a national university, and has a lot of students and alumni from the New York/New Jersey area. A not insignificant portion are Yankee fans. Simple enough, even for Johnny Drama, and that's not easy to do.


we're overrun by trolls...


Smile and wave boyz. Smile and wave.


I'm from NJ & I live up the street form Jen Scicosia's home, a ND lax player.
A friend is a vascular surgeon & says the type of surgery that Jim Clausen had will take him 6 months to a year to regain FULL strength of his thowing power.
This will be, is, a long arduous season.
Probably 0-8 start & looking beatable to the other frour opponents.


Interesting JM. JC said in his presser this week that he felt fine. His injury today certainly had an impact on his ability to throw. He's a tough competitor though.


I am a Notre Dame fan and a Yankee fan because my father is a fan of both, my son is because I am, that is what was talked in our house and watched. In the day when I was young you had limited access to sports so family influence was great. I believe my father became a Yankee fan because of Joe DiMaggio and being Catholic he became an ND fan. Thanks, Dad, I wouldnt want it any other way.


Well stated Doug!


im from CT and also like the knicks and giants so i think i can get a break on the yankees front.

my parents were born and raised in south bend and my grandfather and two uncles are ND alumns.

there you go, ties to both teams. call me a frontrunner, and ill show you my gerald wilkins knicks jersey.


I'm a Notre Dame fan because those who aren't burn in hell fire for all eternity.


Auburn beat Florida with 3 freshmen OL starters. At least SOMEBODY can play freshmen and win.


Comments of variety:

1. You cannot be accused of firing a coach for racism unless you hire him in the first place.

2. Grear players make great coaches -- Bear Bryant

3. Can Charlie Weis recruit? Are players like Claussen, Aldrige, Kamira and Tate for real? No doubt.

5. Does anyone still think that ND would be 0-5 if it had a real junior and senior class of players?

4. Are the 2007 Irish quitters? LOL.

5. Here in PA, Penn State is taking heavy critcism. Why? It has an experienced QB, a team comprised mostly of juniors, seniors and 5th year players, a coach in his 42nd year as head coach and an 0-5 record if it played ND's schedule. Thank God for Fla. International and Buffalo.

6. Based on some of his analyses, is Andre Ware smoking dope?

7. If you were a Texas, Oklahoma, Florida, WVA, or Rutgers fan this morning, what would you be saying about your coach?

8. Does any real ND fan believe that Weis should be fired because 2008 and 2009 will be more of the same?

9. Anyone notice that Ty has a diffeerent offensive coordinator at UW? Gee, I wonder why? Yet he refused to fire Dietrich while at ND.


Hey Hilookathis:

Here is the bottom line. Two BSC bowls in two years, 6 losses in two years, 5 to top 5 teams the 6th in OT. Name the last ND coach to do this? Hint-it was not Davie or Ty. So Weis should get bashed for beating the same teams with the
same players that Ty was losing to. In 2003, Ty teams actually QUIT during the Syracuse game. Have you EVER seen a Weis team quit??


2. Grear players make great coaches -- Bear Bryant

Assuming that's true, that means that the "success" Charlie acheived in his first two years was due to the players he had on those teams (who were recruited by Willingham), as opposed to Weis' alleged "genius"?


Here in PA, Penn State is taking heavy critcism. Why? It has an experienced QB, a team comprised mostly of juniors, seniors and 5th year players, a coach in his 42nd year as head coach and an 0-5 record if it played ND's schedule. Thank God for Fla. International and Buffalo.

I assume Penn State is also thanking God for Notre Dame.


ND Hockey , a sense of perspective.

Notre Dame Ice Hockey... 3-20-5 [2004-05] pre Jeff Jackson

11-13-4 First year Jeff Jackson 2005-06

32-7-3 2006-07 CCHA champs 2-1 loss in NCAA quarter finals to eventual NC MSU 2-1

With less tradition and less material we have a turnaround program. No excuses about previous coaches.....or material, just results.

Comments?


ND obviously was lucky to get Jeff Jackson . ..big time.

The point is that being critical without being personal towards the efforts this fall are not out of line.

And yep given a 14 point loss not being considered a blowout gives you an idea how far we have fallen.


Hmmmmm...no it means that Weis is a great coach and Willingham isnt, despite what Brent Muckburger says. Did anyone notice that Washington has a senior OLine, Locker is a redshirt freshman not a true freshman and I want to see what he does in the next few years with Ty's penchant for recruiting great linemen. He was a gift to Ty, he didnt want to leave Washington and was a Huskie fan. The kid has talent, but I hope that Ty fans dont look at him as some kind of recruiting coup for Ty, he had to do very little work to get him. Of course Mussberger and Herbstreit made it sound like he was about to be coronated. I can't believe that Ty actually made me cheer for USC, who by the way played one of the worst games that I have seen USC play in years.


Preferred Wsahington if only because of the uniforms.

Short of throwbacks, Ty's activities are of no interest to me.


Or Washington...


Hey Hmmm:
Your post is laughable. Under Ty, Jeff S. had no TD receptions in his first two years. In his first year under CW, he led the nation. Under Ty, Quinn was average. Under CW, he became a first round draft pick. As Holtz once said, you cannot win without great players but you can lose with them. The difference is coaching.


RE: Lush - "Have you EVER seen a Weis team quit??"

Well, it's hard to tell. But I'd prefer to think they actually have quit, rather than think that their play is so terrible that they only *appear* to have quit.


To:

Conversation: University of Washington Football Recruiting
Subject: University of Washington Football Recruiting


Editor:

University of Washington administration, alumni and fans should be aware that Tyrone Willingham is up to his ‘ol Stanford and Notre Dame tricks again, now performing them at the University of Washington, e.g., his lack of effective recruiting...leaving the cupboard bare for his successors...and leaving once proud football programs in shambles.

Willingham, in his three year recruiting tenure at UW (class of 2006, 2007 and the class of 2008 now in progress), has had only one (1) “Top 100” (Rivals.com) high school athlete (Jake Locker) sign with the UW football program. At Notre Dame, in his three year recruiting tenure there, he only had three (3) “Top 100” athletes sign...none in the year that he was fired.

For comparison purposes only, Charley Weis, during his three year recruiting tenure at Notre Dame (class of 2006, 2007 and the class of 2008 now in progress), has signed eighteen (18) “Top 100” (Rivals.com) high school athletes...six in each year.

As Willingham received a $2,000,000 buyout from Notre Dame for his recruiting failures and, as I understand, has the same buyout clause in his UW/Todd Turner contract...is Willingham failing to effectively recruit on purpose? Kind of like the football equivalent of The Producers Max Bialystock? What other reason could there be for this notable lack of production?

It will be interesting to see how this lack of recruiting prowess affects the UW Won - Loss record in years to come...most likely after Mr. Willingham is long gone...like Sanford and Notre Dame.

P.S. I’m not sure how Willingham keeps scoring these impressive head coaching positions to begin with...his lifetime W-L percentage is .514 and he’ll need to go 5-9 this year to keep from dropping under .500 to .497.


Have to agree with old tOSU is righteous.
Coach Willingham has been gone for clost to three years. If he had been a successful recruiter, coach, et al, he would still be at 'du lac."
A poor workman will always blame his tools.
I have the utmost confidence in Coach Weis, but I also had the same in all of the ND coaches. It's the beauty of being a ND fan.
Also let us not forget the famous "Peter Principal*," that could be at work here.
*You will eventually be promoted to a level of incomptency.
Could that include Coach Weis? A genius OC, but something less as HC?


by the way...what's up with Walls and his Lambert/Wooden impression?


I'm sorry JM, but I can't take anyone seriously with the handle "tSOU is righteous."

Webster defines righteous as "1 : acting in accord with divine or moral law : free from guilt or sin; 2 a : morally right or justifiable --a righteous decision-- b : arising from an outraged sense of justice or morality ."

Maybe righteous is defined differently in the Big Ten.

Good post jim/redondo beach


I'm glad I don't read these threads on game day.


Jim/Redondo Beach and Doug:

Why do you guys feel compelled to spend so much time hating on Willingham? He was not the right fit for Notre Dame but he did a good job at Stanford and at Washington there is no doubt he has brought the program up since he has been there.

The way you go overboard in hating on him just makes Notre Dame look bad.


^ Not that I like anonymous posts, but this one is on the money. ND fans will never convince the world that Willingham deserved to be fired and/or caused the mess that is the 2007 season. I realize that there are arguments that can be made, but at this point they're either falling on deaf ears or preaching to the choir. Please, I beg you all, let's ignore the ABC interviews and all the negative comparisons, and just focus on the team and the coach that we have.


Willingham was not fired because of race, he was fired because of performance both on and off the field. Should he have been retained for the remaining two years even though the program was regressing under his leadership because guys like Terry Brennan and Gerry Faust were not fired after three years? If Ty had been retained, were would ND's program be today? Do any of you realize that Ty's biggest supporter, Monk Malloy, wanted to remain President but the Board of Trustees said "NO?


I don't hate Willingham...in fact I rather admire a .500 coach (or priest or businessman or husband) that has lost as many as he's won and still has ADs for some of the most storied football programs in the nation falling all over themselves trying to give him millions of dollars a year for mediocrity. Read my previous message regarding TW's career W-L and recruitment record. He left the Stanford and ND programs in shambles...he has a modicum of success at UW now because his 5th year seniors, seniors and juniors were recruited by the previous coach...just like Weis' situation...but because of Willingham's unseemly recruitment record...in reverse. The man is a coaching charlatan...but hey...all the more power to him. He's used his color and reputation as running "clean" programs into a net worth totaling millions of dollars. Go figure!


P.S. When I say TW has had a "modicum of success" at UW...please excuse my hyperbole. He's 9 and 18 during the last 2+ years...a .333 W-L percentage. Not even reaching mediocrity...


"Under CW, he (jeff spellcheck) became a first round draft pick."

except he did not.


What round did the Cubs take Samardzija in?


http://www.ndnation.com/geetar/2...k-to- miami.html

please read


now lets go out there and take the lead.


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