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Thanks for the analysis. Interesting reading.
I have no problem with a group such as GetMovingBC supporting the Gateway project. I also have no problems with their BC Liberal leanings. I just think that it is odd that they are so secretive about who is on the board and what they do. It certainly takes their credibility away.
Also, I wouldn't call their website slick. They probably paid a bit of money for the flash animation, but it seems like they ran out of money after that. For example, none of the buttons on the front page actually work. I'd certainly love to win a nano, though.
ED NOTE: FOR ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW GO TO LINK>
http://www.livableregion.ca/
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Bateman should be giving away Port Mann Toll booth passes instead of bus passes in keeping with his not so shrewd and subtle bias.
Adam says: I just think that it is odd that they are so secretive about who is on the board and what they do. It certainly takes their credibility away.
Keith responds: Yes, it is odd, isn't it, Adam? Kind of like using handles like "LFP Editor" or "anonymous" instead of ones real name. Interesting, isn't it, the "LFP editor" seems to expect others to be "open, honest, and transparent" while he/she hides under the shroud of a pseudonym.
Portland has twice the number of bridge lanes as we have in the Lower Mainland, and probably half the number opinionated objectors, with a shed full of pickets signs and always ready for a cause.
Your right Keith, LFP has Cllr. Kim Richter prominently displayed as the web/blog host and main contributor. Get Moving BC should do the same and have the Liberal Party of BC as the web/blog host and Premier Gordon Campbell as it's main contributor too!
Adam, you guys at the Livable Region web/blog site should be handing out the bus passes not Get Moving BC! Get with it guys! How about giving out green bikes instead of IPODS as well? But then you guys probably don't have to buy your support unlike other web/blog sites! Not mentioning any names!
These are some of the people that are giving advice to the "ill-informed, anti-progress, anti-transportation groups" according to Jordan Bateman's Get Moving BC
http://stephenrees.wordpress.com/
Silence from all the LFP critics and your so called Jordan Junkies and Old Boys Club (Langley Township Council Boy's Club) supporters on this issue. Their true colours are showing.
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Anon, did you really expect the venom to go in the other direction from the junkies? Get real 
Yes, true colours indeed.
I note that Get Moving BC's so-called report has no actual names of who researched or wrote the report. No credentials either. Why would media like News 1130 and others publish a questionably authored report?
Hi Ed,
' Just checking in to see if anyone's managed to talk some sense into you yet. Still angry as ever, eh? I'll give you credit, at least you are consistant: If you complain about everything, all of the time, someday you'll be able to say, "I told you so." Hopefully, that won't be for a while.
TO "OK",
If you can't contribute anything meaningful......yada yada yada yada, why don't you go back to your favorite posting place, they're probably missing you.
Why waste your time posting and our time on having to read this gibberish?
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LFP,
Shall we all assume then that you believe that B.C. does not have to get moving? Have you too not noticed that B.C.'s bridges are inadequate for traffic flow? Should a government press release point at the negative aspects of their proposals?
WHO IS GET MOVING B.C.?
A committee set with the influence of the government I hope, who will in turn influence the government.
WHO STARTED IT?
Those nasty folks in the government again I suppose, hoping to raise the awareness level about the fact that we are lagging behind to the point that our economic fluidity is starting to cave in.
WHO FINANCES IT?
I suppose we will eventually find that out, but whoever it is, it basically boils down to whether it's a good cause or not. Most people believe we should get on the stick and solve our dreadful transportation issues before traffic comes to a standstill.
Methinks, Sorry, perhaps your missing my point here. The issue in my postings is not the merits of Gateway, pro or con or in fact getting BC moving. We should all welcome both points of view and all in between from any individuals, politicians and organized SINCERE above board groups.
In fact this Editor is still in favour of the Bridge twinning unless of course we get LRT immediatelly in the Fraser Valley through to Abbotsford from Surrey! LOL, not in my lifetime I bet!
My posting's point is it's about posing questions about the process, perception and proper representation by any group(s) to make sure that they do not give the impression that they are something that they are not. If they don't is this ethical, proper and acceptable?
Should the ends justify the means if truth and honesty is compromised?
These then would lead to other obvious questions as another reader pointed out about character, especially of our elected officials.
That is and was the intent of my postings on these matters. What amazes me is that there has been no larger press coverage about these questions on this matter to date.
Today's Public Eye Online shows more partisan shoring up of the province's Gateway by prominent Libs without revealing who they really are again.
http://www.publiceyeonline.com/a...ves/
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LFP,
Your thoughts about all those organised opinion groups would create a quagmire of delays and confusion. Let's just simplify things.
Yes we need a light rail system. Yes it will need a bridge to get it across the Fraser. Yes it will probably take more than ten years to get it started assuming we somehow get the finances. In the meantime the government has to promote what they can afford to do, until the rich uncle in Ottawa gets off its fat ass and does what they should have done many years and governments ago. Ergo a committee of friendlies maybe exactly what's needed to get going.
There's nothing wrong with a watchdog group, but the same questions could also be asked about the political connections of those who always want to intervene. Are their their motives are pure and without bias? Heck no. They're human too!
In my humble opinion, and I stand to be corrected, simply put, any organization giving the public the impression that they are a "community group" and/or a "broad based" and/or even a 'grass roots' group or similar, that then solicits funds and volunteers from the public at large to forward that organization's cause or lobby towards a cause whatever it may be, better make sure that the organization is above board, honest, open and transparent about all their ins, outs, biases, agenda, key players, etc., etc. Heck, even corporations and privately held companies generally do this and they don't have doners/volunteers generally. Let the donor/volunteer beware dosn't cut it with me.
This is especially so if their organization's senior members are holding any publicly elected office as well. In fact having any elected politician as one of the main players insinuates even more fiduciary integrity and trustworthiness theoritically about any senior organizational group and provides more credibility for any organization and is of great value, aka law firms, corporate board of directors, etc, etc.
Quite frankly any politician holding office would in my opinion be one of either calculated, foolhardy, reckless, slow or of questionable integrity to not have made sure of this assurance before they put their name to any organization that is used to solicit money and volunteers from the public.
Simply put any elected politician, in fact should always be seen to be above reproach when lending their name and especially their elected office title alongside or for the benefit of any organization as previously described. It always in the end good or bad, reflects on them, their office(s), supporters, their peers and their constituents.
This would simply be common sense, don't you think?
LFP,
A lot of what you say could be taken as good advise to politicians. It has a lot to do with good human behaviour as well. Your points are well taken, and well said. Thank you for them.
By the Way this Editor would like to thank Blair who first led this Editor to the issue of, in my opinion, the questionable motives and ethics of issues surrounding the GetMovingBC.com website.
If not for Blair I obviously would have missed this issue like most of the main stream media did as well. Thank you Blair very much for alerting and enlightening me and the community at large. Blair & I may not always see alike but generally I do appreciate his insights.
By the way Blair what is your opinion about non credential/author/professional supported studies that are pressed out to the media as a credible and reliable document?
http://valtac.org/ has a great flashing front page link called "Blog Alert Ahead" to your own Langley Free Press posting which goes right to your "Get Moving BC - A partisan Political Trojan Horse" article.
By the way I notice that the commenters who always argued with Langley Free Presss commentary about their favorite councillor XXXXXXX, then slam you or c ouncillor Richter are notably absent suddenly on this item. Why?
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While we value and welcome comments on LFP we realize that both here and on the other site(s) the regular commenters are at best a very small handfull or two of obviously very partisan, motivated and passionate people who regularily are repeat contributors, interspersed with the odd one time only occasional other new commenter every once in a while as well. Quite frankly I would love to hear from many more one time new contributors for a refreshing point of view!
This is not unusal because even newspapers like our local rags which have distribution of 20 - 30 - 40 or more thousands of newspapers two or three times a week also only get a very small handfull of letters to the editors and similarily they also come from regular writers as well who become quite well known.
This site is about getting the real unfiltered straight goods message out to Langley readers unlike the competion out there. We certainly appreciate links given us by any other sites like Valtac and and others especially if they have local Langley connections/contributions as well. Our focus is simply put, Langley.
Our singular ambition is to increase readership. So tell your Langley neighbours about us! However we still value and also encourage and thank all of our commenters for their thoughtfull and relevant insights. Whether they agree or disagree with this Editor and our columnists we hope that their comments enlighten, share knowledge and hopefully entertains as well.
With or without them our columns will continue as does our exponentially growing local Langley readership. Thank you all.
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