Read 'em both, loved 'em. Agreed with them.


And that comic is HILARIOUS, unfortunately it's true...



Marshall
Marshall Sherman | Homepage | 09.29.05 - 7:37 am | #

I've read both books. Actually, I've read IKDG 9 or 10 times.

My position: After I initially read IKDG when it first came out, I got the idea in my head that dating was something inherently bad, but I don't hold that position anymore. Dating ought to be intentional, and it ought to be centered on God's will and the other person's best interest, and it ought to be backed up with commitment--you shouldn't be shopping before you can buy. But dating in itself is not really the problem (which I think is what Josh said, but which I missed at the time).
J | Homepage | 09.29.05 - 9:20 am | #

Um, I think I wasn't very clear there. I totally agree with both Josh's books, but I think I misinterpreted him and took his ideas too far originally. So I have backed off from that. But I love the books and totally support the principles he lays out.
J | Homepage | 09.29.05 - 9:24 am | #

J: I completely understand what you mean. In the introduction to "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" and in Chapter 2 of "Boy Meets Girl," Josh explains that dating vs. courtship really isn't the point. The terms aren't important, it's about purposeful relationships, God-honoring standards, and appropriate timing.

I appreciate hearing that you've realized where you misread Josh's books, because way too many people misread them and then never figure it out.[NOTE: Rebelutionaries, always read the book's introduction. Always.]
Brett Harris | Homepage | 09.29.05 - 9:48 am | #

I read "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" and totally agreed with it. I have yet to read "Boy Meets Girl", though.

That comic is so sad because that is reality of many, many guy/girl relationships. Its tragic, because the repercussions of these sort of situations have shockwaved into the culture. Because guys have begun to value girls by what the girls can give them, girls now view themselves as valuable only if they are "attractive enough". They do anything to become that way (i.e. anorexia, plastic surgery, etc.), including dressing immodestly, which ends up encouraging the guys to continue looking at the girl on the outside...its a circle that never ends.
And I know, I just wrote a 100+ word post on a comic strip and am feeling rather ridiculous....time for me to get back to school.
Hannah | Homepage | 09.29.05 - 9:52 am | #

Don't worry, Hannah. The whole point of the Jiffy N' Lou comics, and the reason why we include them on The Rebelution, is because things can be funny and substantive, at the same time. Your comment was right on.

Oh, and if you hadn't noticed: The Rebelution now links to you.
Alex Jordan Harris | Homepage | 09.29.05 - 10:04 am | #

Thanks a lot!
Hannah | Homepage | 09.29.05 - 10:16 am | #

I have read "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" and parts of "Boy Meets Girl". They were both excellent. When it comes to relationships it really is what is in the heart that matters. When it comes down to the point of dating/courting, well, I am not sure yet...lol...my bro is doing half dating half courting and it is going very well. I deff. would tend to go with courting though.
abby berg | 09.29.05 - 12:00 pm | #

I have read both of your brother's books. My position when it comes to relationships is that dating is just a word. What is most important is your motive. Like the comic said, I don't want to date just as a casual thing. Dating is a serious minded, carefully entered relationship.
Sarah | Homepage | 09.29.05 - 1:11 pm | #

Abby: I can't help but ask, "What does it look like to half-date and half-court? What are the distinctions between dating and courting that you see, and which characteristics of each has your brother adopted?"

You've really piqued my curiosity. :)
Brett Harris | Homepage | 09.29.05 - 3:03 pm | #

I think this was my favorite of the three installments you've posted so far...

I've read the first book. It was very good.
Karen Kovaka | 09.29.05 - 3:47 pm | #

I haven't read either of them... I know my dad and youth leaders have though, and they agreed with them. Maybe when my school work load slows down a little (if that is possible lol) I will read them.
Ednella Sound-Out | Homepage | 09.29.05 - 5:01 pm | #

I havent read "I kissed dating goodbye" but I have heard so much about it and watched a video that your brother spoke about the book on. It was great, an excellent concept that I hope more teens think about and very seriously.
Carmel | Homepage | 09.29.05 - 7:14 pm | #

I have read both books...and agree with both of them whole heartedly. I guess I still have a lot of questions though about dating. Do you think you guys could ever do a post on relationships and dating or courting?
Lauren Hammerstrom | 09.29.05 - 7:58 pm | #

Don't worry, Lauren. The issue will undoubtedly be addressed. To help us help you, what sort of questions do you have?
Brett Harris | Homepage | 09.29.05 - 8:11 pm | #

Brett: It means that they aren’t as ‘strict’ so to say as most people in courting relationships are but then they are not for the whole dating relationship. They spend most of the time with my family or her family. But maybe every other week when my bro comes up from AL they will go out on dates by themselves (which is not exactly allowed in most of the courting scenarios that I have seen, maybe you have seen diff.). So yah, it is sort-of in-between. Does it make sense?lol
abby berg | 09.30.05 - 6:15 am | #

Abby: Yeah, I completely understand what you mean. I have seen quite a variety of courtship "methods," so that description was not new to me. Thanks for explaining!
Brett Harris | Homepage | 09.30.05 - 9:35 am | #

I haven't read either. :D But I can guarantee that I agree with him on everything - if not being more conservative! :D I think courtship is the best model,where you get together as families (besides, what can you talk about when on single dates? :D ).
SecDef | Homepage | 09.30.05 - 10:16 am | #

Hey Brett,
I will email you with the questions, they are somewhat personal and maybe a little long for a comment section...=)
Lauren
Lauren Hammerstrom | 09.30.05 - 3:16 pm | #

Whoa!!! *laugh* That's pretty funny!

But unfortunately, it's the truth. Though people to admit it, that's exactly what does. It's only to appease the "hormone rush", and it only get us in trouble.

Great comic! I'm going to read them all! Thanks for highlighting these treasures, guys!
Veronika W. | Homepage | 03.07.06 - 1:13 pm | #

I love this comic. I come back to it every time I forget what really goes on in secular relationships (they still seem to lack any kind of logical basis, but this helps.)

I have never IKDGB, but came to that conclusion independently. I do, however, really want to read Boy-Meets-Girl, and plan to buy it as soon as I have enough money.
Jonathan | 07.02.08 - 8:13 pm | #