Gravatar Corporate Blawg currently has an "enlightened employer". However, at a different firm the miserable mantra had been: "I live for my weekends".

Below Corporate Blawg recalls his most profound thoughts during the lost years when he put in stupid hours on a daily basis:

8pm - conversations in the office irritate as need to get work done. Irritation probably due to hunger and nappy rash from sitting on the same chair for 11 hours.

9pm - had takeaway, got curry juice on tie. Job security makes me jolly, but turns stomach with caffeine overdose. Head starting to feel in a different timezone.

11pm - just one more page, one more page...

12pm - time to go home, but with the knowledge of a sleepless night since the last 3 hours have been riddled with mistakes. Feel like the lowest of the low, but at least I buy my clothes at Hugo Boss.

You can have all the money in the world but how rich you are depends on how many things you have that money can't buy.


Gravatar If only I had the time to keep a blog as constantly updated and well-researched as yours, Corporate Blawg.


Gravatar There's a lot to be said for taking home a somewhat more modest amount of money at the end of the month, but being able to walk out of the door at 5pm and not having to think about work again until 9am the next morning.


Gravatar I'll confess to being a workaholic at times. A few years ago I was holding down three jobs (9-5 office, evenings and weekend days in a shop and a pub job) and I loved it, but mainly as they all involved dealing with different people. Huge variety and as such, I didn't realise I was working half the time.

Still, I was raking in maybe 1/3 the amount that the lowest-paid solicitor is on the original post. But, as stated above, what was important was that I was happy.

I'm now delightfully unemployed, having sold my house for a nice profit that I bought with the help of working my socks off for 12 years or so. I'm blowing that money on a trip round the world, staying with friends and in cheap hostels. All I have fits in 2 rucksacks (one large, one laptop!) and it's the best thing I ever did.

Income means *nothing* if you can't enjoy what you're getting from it. I reckon I'm going to have been out of work for 18-24 months by the time I settle down and get another job.

You can always earn more money. You can't earn more time on this earth. And trust me - there's a lot of it to see!


Gravatar Who was saying that public defence briefs are overpayed? Can you point them out?


Gravatar Mosh

I couldn't agree with you more. I gave up my well-paid job some years ago to work less hours for myself. (It actually backfired - I now work more hours than ever before, but at least the lovely proceeds are all mine!)

However - we can't *all* drop out. Someone needs to go to work to keep the wheels moving.

I am aware of large solicitor practices that maintain sleeping accommodation with en suites within their offices - so that their staff can grab a couple of hours & not have to worry about going home. They're welcome to it.


Gravatar "The newly qualified lawyer in a police station at 2 a.m. is probably earning a lot less than the Custody Sergeant."

The point being what exactly? Most custody Sergeants have been in ten or more years and have a great deal of experience and a number of qualifications.

Being a custody skipper is a hard job when you have to monitor large numbers of people, many with mental health, illness or drunkeness with the threat of losing your job should one of them die in custody.


Gravatar Mosh has it right, though what you do after you've done a Jacob and got your reward may be a matter of debate.

The trick is to land a job as cannon fodder for one of these firms, where the spondulix lie [lies?] thick upon the ground. Most of us start at the bottom, like that 2 a.m. LAS, and never catch up.

I have a nice big vat of Kool-Aid laced with strychnine, if anyone cares to join me.


Gravatar Rogerborg - "Who was saying that public defence briefs are overpayed? Can you point them out?"

This recent comment from Silvafox (who I think has also posted here) on PC Copperfield's blog doesn't quite answer your question but seems apposite:

"We represent defendants, the less bright officers sometimes take the view that that means we sympathise with them"

Judging by the tone of comments I've read online and heard in person over the years from the 'string 'em up' brigade, there are a lot of people who seem to regard defence solicitors as almost as bad as the criminals they represent, therefore any payment they receive - especially from state funds - is begrudged.


Gravatar "there are a lot of people who seem to regard defence solicitors as almost as bad as the criminals they represent, therefore any payment they receive - especially from state funds - is begrudged."

Agree!


Gravatar In fact, the firms will be billing much more for their solicitors' time than they pay them in salary. Still, not too much to complain about, as it's more than a man running a corner shop takes home, on average.


Gravatar This from the Independent of 28th October:

"The Office of National Statistics says pay for men in the Square Mile has soared by 21 per cent in a year, pushing the annual salary past £100,000. Female City workers take home £51,000 a year, compared with the national male average wage of £31,000."

So, yes, a good salary relative to national averages, but still below City rates with 3 years experience.


Gravatar I am a solicitor who earns £26,000 p.a. Yes, I do earn more than some people and far less than others. I have no idea how much a man running a corner shop earns, but I am fairly confident that he will not have spent 3-years at university studying a degree (costing me personally £3K), 1-year completing the Post Grad Diploma in Law (£7K), and a year studying to qualify as a barrister (£10K)

Total cost to me, £20,000. All most criminal defence solicitors and barristers want is to be paid a wage that reflects the time and effort spent qualifying and the skills arising from the same.

By the way, Anonymous, who said he degrudges solicitors being paid from the public purse and feels they are as bad as the people they represent, I have two questions:
1. Who would you want to represent you if you were ever falsly accused of a crime?
2. Some medical doctors provide evidence for the defence (and charge at least double what the solicitor's firm earns). Do you view them with the same disgust? Afterall, if they weren't producing the evidence then all these wicked people would be convicted.


Gravatar "lie", npetrikov, "lie". "Spondulicks" is a plural noun, even when you spell it funny.


Gravatar " All most criminal defence solicitors and barristers want is to be paid a wage that reflects the time and effort spent qualifying and the skills arising from the same"

I suspect that most students would say the same.

Unfortunately, the real world says that your job will be paid according to demand in your skills, not necessarily what you want (unless you're good at it) or think is fair.

I trust that you invested in your training with a view that it will pay off in the future. If it doesn't, that is the risk you took.


Gravatar Apropos of nothing, I left exactly that profession and exactly that kind of firm because of the stupid hours I had to work. Oh, and also it was boring.

Just a point - those figures aren't innaccurate exactly, but they don't fully reflect reality. Once you get to about 3 years PQE there are bands of pay that get wider the more qualified you get. So not all 3 years PQE will be pulling in those figures. From memory, the rollonfriday.com figures tend to be the top of the relevant band, rather than the bottom or the average.


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