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Hmm.
I see these guys refer to "evildoers".
Does that, perchance, refer to countries whose governments use torture???
No?
Then what, pray tell, does the term "evildoer" actually mean?
Stormcrow |
05.29.08 - 4:34 am | #
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Here is a better League to join
ceabaird |
05.29.08 - 5:16 am | #
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Umm NATO?
and isn't russia a democracy now.
many some ideas are just flat out dumb
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05.29.08 - 5:31 am | #
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More like "NATO, but with the EU counter-balanced by countries we might be able to strongarm." This is a desperate scrabbling move to hold onto world leadership status in a time when there are other rising powers. It wouldn't even work the way he intends it.
A good rule of thumb is, when Robert Kagan advocates a foreign policy idea, it's a disaster waiting to happen.
"McCain says he'd establish the league in his first year in office: a close-knit grouping of like-minded nations that could respond to humanitarian crises and compensate for the UN security council's tendency to be hamstrung by the likes of Russia and China when it needs to take decisive action against the world's evil-doers"
Wait..."evil-doers"? Are we sure Grampa isn't talking about forming up the Justice League? What's McSame's superpower? The ability to fog the minds of the MSM to make inconvenient lobbyists invisible?
That's what 40 years of public education and the Boomer BS Machine gets you: Presidential candidates (and Presidents) who feel perfectly comfortable using Stan Lee dialog to discuss international affairs. Excelsior!
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05.29.08 - 5:33 am | #
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OTD austrial allready has very strong ties to NATO, a defense atache is stationed tehre, and there are a number of cross treaties and a information share (includeing calssified documents) they are all but in NATO. We could set up similar treaties with japan(oh wait that has been in the works as well, they already work with the humanitarian NATO stuff and are looking to join in in the security roles).
so this would be a pointless ercreation of the wheel that would needlessly antagonize russia and china.
more over russia is a democracy, adn is no more in bed with "evil dooers" then we are.
all creating this organization would do is create international tention while threatenign to restart teh cold war (hey russia we are starting up a league of democarcies...no you can't join).
then again creatign a new cold war very well may be the point.
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05.29.08 - 5:43 am | #
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Well, the War On Terror is running out of steam (for electoral purposes). Cold War Two might just be the ticket.
Name it in honor of the man who made all this possible and whose legacy McCain intends to carry into the second decade of the 21st century: The Bush League.
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05.29.08 - 5:57 am | #
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"then again creatign a new cold war very well may be the point."
That's exactly the point, since these guys are nothing without enemies. That and making sure that we're still "leader of the free world" (as opposed to the decadent surrender monkeys of the EU).
What he's proposing is inefficient, rushed, unnecessarily antagonistic to rivals and allies alike, with a not so artfully hidden power motive. In other words, a typical neoconservative foreign policy initiative.
More of the McSame.
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05.29.08 - 6:01 am | #
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Thing is, we haven't been a Democracy since 2000 (at the latest), so the USA can't even join McSame's club.
US Blues |
05.29.08 - 7:05 am | #
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The League might be aimed at China and a resurgent Russia (China is more likely, but softly softly because they hold so much of our IOUs and bar tabs). And it's necessary to have enemies, or what's left of our industrial base won't have anything to do. Who needs a fleet of MRAPs if we're not off somewhere killing people?
Yeah, this is The Empire, trying to remain relevant.
The Wanderer |
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05.29.08 - 7:08 am | #
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The rest of the world will move on...will the US even notice?
Thor Heyerdahl |
05.29.08 - 7:47 am | #
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I can't see Australia joining. Kevin Rudd is an ex-diplomat who speaks fluent Mandarin. Why would he go out of the way to antagonize China (one of out biggest trading partners) or quasi-democracies in the area like Singapore and Malaysia (whose eligibility is undetermined)?
Down and Out of Sài Gòn |
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05.29.08 - 5:34 pm | #
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I can't speak to McCains plan as I don't know the details, but I would think a more democratic UN would be a good thing. Clearly what we have now hasn't worked. And while I would argue that the United States still belongs despite a population with a bad voting record, it's important not to confuse the idea with current US policy.
As I see it, we should reinvent the UN to be more democratic, rather than make a separate organization. Here's my idea of how it would be done...
http://www.UnitedDemocraticNations.org
Feedback?
gary
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05.30.08 - 11:35 pm | #
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