CNN Int'l ran the numbers half an hour ago and got them pretty much right, as you called them.
In the exit polling 20% of Clinton and 16% of Edwards voters put Barack as Most Qualified to be Commander-in-Chief. I think he's gonna roll on Feb 5.
The Hillary=Experience thing really cracks me up.
My wife is a doctor and mostly does OB/GYN work. She tells me stories about many of her more intense and complicated deliveries. But I promise you, no matter how much we sleep together, none of her experience ever rubs off on me. You would not want me going anywhere near a woman in labor with a scalpel in my hand.
I don't doubt Hillary is an extremely accomplished politician. But she hardly has overwhelming experience over the other candidates.
lol @ Kent
As an Okie, represented in the Senate by Tom Coburn and Jim Inhofe, I can sympathize with the 'why bother' contingent.
I'm heartened that people got off their duffs and cast a ballot. The numbers are a bigger story than who won.
I think the success of a democracy can best be measured by the percentage of participants.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w...h?
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Yippeeee!
It is a good day.
(i just heard a weird spin on the stats though... Obama won only 1/3 of the white vote, and the rest of white voters were split between Clinton and Edwards???? forgive me if I am being dense but doesn't that mean they split the white vote in 3rds?)
Al Gore has a chance to give the republicans a knee to the groin. If he comes out for Obama before Super Tuesday, it could yank the Hillary life preserver right out of their hands.
Without her to run against, every republican on team-troll instantly becomes a sacrificial goat.
I like Edwards, but if he can't make it, then I'll go with Obama whole-heartedly. We HAVE to win this election; one of the party's is going to come out of it mortally wounded, for a long time to come, and it had better not be the democrats.
Gore won't endorse. na ga happen....
Gore won't endorse. na ga happen....
I tend to agree. Someone has to be the elder statesman in the party and Bill has clearly given up that role.
If Tanbark thinks Obama can win in November, he has more faith in us palefaces than I do. I don't think enough of my people are evolved enough to choose an African-American for President. I fear the same would prove true for Hillary, for other reasons.
May Miss Haruhi, Ceiling Cat, J.R. "Bob" Dobbs and the Flying Spaghetti Monster grant that I will be mistaken.
My two cents:
Al Gore won't endorse anybody. Yet. It's still damned early, folks, despite the craziness that the 2008 cycle requires.
Obama can win, with the white vote (what with us being round about 70-80% of the electorate, depending on how "hispanic" is defined). Against McCain, it'll be closer than it should be. But same thing goes for Hillary.
Obama is playing very carefully, just carefully enough to win over just enough of the white yuppie wannabe demographic.
Obama has played this primary season far more closer to the vest than Hillary et al have. Hillary is working from the old play book while Obama is busy writing the new one. Hillary comes out with a sledgehammer and Obama parries it with skill and finesse while disabling his opponent.
Senator Clinton is a very skilled politician that has been campaigning since she was barely an adult. In most election cycles against most opponents that would be the decisive edge needed to beat out her opposition. But Obama has turned one of her biggest strengths into one of her biggest weaknesses. She went negative and unlike most elections, the numbers bear out that that negativity came back to blow up in her face.
Unless Hillary can get some media win out of the uncontested Florida primary on Tuesday, she will be facing a much more difficult road to the nomination starting right now.
UPDATE: We just cracked over half a million voters. The end of the southern strategy?
All those dead soldiers had to come from somewhere, and all the maimed and brain-damaged soldiers had to go back to somewhere.
I think that its too early to call yet. History might repeat itself same as it did in 1988. All this shows is that noone has a lock on the democratic nomination which is probably a good thing
How is it that they can call the thing before ANY precincts report?
I really wish they'd stop with the pre-calling the whole thing. Call me old fashioned,but I'd kinda like to wait til the actual votes are counted up before someone calls things. THEN you compare and contrast the exit polls(isn't that the purpose of the exit poll in the first place?)
And goddess please,why in the fresh hell does coverage of the State of the Union begin at SIX IN THE MORNING the day of the speech? Why?
@angryoldbroad - For the same reason the Christmas season starts somewhere in July and the Valentines day decorations at my local Rite-Aid have a nice layer of dust on them and February hasn't even started yet.
The earlier the better!
530,000 Democratic votes, in a state of 4.3 million, and a majority for Obama. A state where normally your candidates are either Republican Southern Baptist or Republican Southern Baptist.
If I'm the RNC I'd be worried right now.
The southern strategy (for the GOopers) will now turn from gettin' out the white vote to suppressing the black vote. Look for more rethug screeching about "voter fraud" in the south. Bank on it.
Dejah is probably correct. After all, the Chimperor and Darth Cheney would not be infesting our government if not for voter suppression and vote fraud.
I forgot something. If Ron Paul decided to run as an independent or third-party candidate, he'd split the racist vote with the official Elephascist candidate and Obama could win in that scenario. 
"If I were the RNC, I'd be worried right about now."
Redoubt, you aint seen nuthin' yet. If we nominate Obama, or if Edwards can pull off a near-miracle comeback on Super Tuesday and go on to take it, the repubs will be like that extra thousand poor souls on the titanic. All the Hillary lifeboats just won't be there for them.
This. Is. Not. Rocket. Science.
If we do NOT put up Hillary Clinton, the GOP is going to get HAMMERED!
:o)
Can you imagine Obama, 6 months from now, in one of the debates, if he still wants to stay in Iraq for a hundred years? And then, Obama can point out that at $3 billion a week, pretty soon we'll be talking about real money.
If Obama continues like this, the instant that Clinton bows out, EVERY member of the GOP's team-troll will instantly be on track to be a political footnote.
Let me ask you, everyone; do you think that Iraq is going to get better?
Mi amigo, Ivory Bill seriously overestimates the degree of racism that is still alive and well in america. Barak Obama got a quarter of the white votes cast, in SOUTH CACKALACK, for God's sake!
I live here. Grew up here. I can remember separate drinking fountains for whites and "kneegrows".
Three years ago, there was a sign on SR 905, going out of Conway, the county seat of Horry County, the largest in the state, advertising a Klan Rally in some cow pasture near Loris. (I didn't attend. :o) )
I'm telling you, guys, the times they are a changin'. I like John Edwards, and want him to stay in the race at least until Super Tuesday, but Obama can fire up the kids and a lot of the old people, too. He could be a gift to us. Not least if he takes care of the only pol in the country that can keep this close for the warpimps...and I'm talking about Hillary Clinton.
I was a supporter of hers. I was delighted when she won that N.Y. Senate seat. But I've watched, appalled, as she's planted one kiss after another on the ass of the right in america.
If she had stood up to bush and the petro-borgs (royalty to Drift. :o) ); if she had risked one micron of her political ass to get out in front of tough progressive issues when it counted most, I could possible forgive her, but when, about 6 weeks ago, she called Obama out for being "too far left" because he spoke out against the death penalty years ago, and because (she said) he was in favor of "socialized medicine", it was the end for her, as far as I'm concerned.
Those are two classic GOP talking points, and they have used them to hammer progressives and democrats for years. Are we supposed to be dumbshit enough to support a candidate who parrots those shopworn republican accusations?
Fuck no, we're not.
I'm delighted that she hauled ass out of S.C. for Arizona when she saw that she was in for an ass-kicking of historic proportions, leaving Bill here to get off his rants about Obama and the press. I think it kicked his win up by 10 points.
Olberman; who, like the rest of us, has had enough bullshit already, called it right:
"A thunderous rout..." and so it was. And it laid rest any claim that the Clinton's have to some inherent right to the nomination.
I'd like to add "RIP" to this, but it aint over yet...Hillary's gonna campaign in Florida, because, unlike the rest of the democratic field who promised to honor the DNC's request to stay out of the Florida primary because they moved it up, she's now breaking her word, and is scrambling for delegates down there.
Sucks to be you, Hil.
Woops, in that "can you imagine..." sentence, it should have read:
"Can you imagine Obama, 6 months from now, in one of the debates, ASKING JOHN McCAIN if he still wants to stay in Iraq for a hundred years?"
"If I were the RNC, I'd be so freaked out I have trouble passing water right about now."
Fixed!
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