Gravatar Fuck you Hubris! You piece of shit. These newsletters weren't written by Paul but instead by an independent author working with the Newsletter. And all of this is decades old and has been rehashed several times and debunked


Gravatar Hey!

Dont blame me. This post was written by Pubris Chronic, not me... He was just using my name at the bottom.


Gravatar OK, so if these diatribes weren't written by Ron Paul, why were they included in his newsletter?

He (Paul) has said that things were included that he didn't agree with, but if that's the case, why were so many of them there?


Gravatar Click through Hubris' link to TNR. The comment thread at The New Republic page is interesting. This is the sanest one:

Posted by Johnny Mo
62 of 121 | warn tnr | respond
The comments cited contain truths but also smack of intolerance and anger. It seems reasonable that Ron Paul would have endorsed them at the time given that his name titles the newletter; however, he refutes this. More information needed. An inconsistency exists between these writings and his written work of late. Perhaps he will help us, his supporters, to reconcile these differences.

"New to you" is still new, and if Ron Paul would like to put it all to bed for good, he's got the best platform and greatest need right now.

Wouldn't hurt to haul up on stage the guy who was producing the newsletters, either.


Gravatar You are going to get hammered by the blog trolls. BTW, xkcd has the ultimate take on him:
http://xkcd.com/367/


Gravatar Whoop! Ron Paul's campaign responds:

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press...ld-newsletters/

January 8, 2008 5:28 am EST

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – In response to an article published by The New Republic, Ron Paul issued the following statement:

“The quotations in The New Republic article are not mine and do not represent what I believe or have ever believed. I have never uttered such words and denounce such small-minded thoughts.

“In fact, I have always agreed with Martin Luther King, Jr. that we should only be concerned with the content of a person's character, not the color of their skin. As I stated on the floor of the U.S. House on April 20, 1999: ‘I rise in great respect for the courage and high ideals of Rosa Parks who stood steadfastly for the rights of individuals against unjust laws and oppressive governmental policies.’

“This story is old news and has been rehashed for over a decade. It's once again being resurrected for obvious political reasons on the day of the New Hampshire primary.

“When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name.”

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Gravatar Then good on Ron Paul for stepping up.


Gravatar Which Ron Paul wrote the campaign response? The racist one, or the other one?


Gravatar Ouch!!!


Gravatar Sling as you might, but we're not going ANYWHERE. So sorry.

Signed, a prick lover.


Gravatar Thank you, cherish. Everyone should get their chance to reply to an accusation however much you might dislike them or what they stand for.


Gravatar Its no accusation. The newsletters went out under his name for over a decade. Its ridiculous to think he didnt write them and approve them. If he didnt write them, who did? why doesnt he sue them for defamation... give me a break.

are you a sucker? are you a fool?

who the fuck do you think wrote those?


Gravatar Even Drudge pulled the TNR hit piece off his website as soon as he found out the truth, and Drudge will publish just about any piece of shit anyone comes up with. FOX won't even link to it. That's all it is, some crap someone else wrote 20 years ago that managed to get stuck in the newsletter. It's is not what Ron Paul himself ever wrote.


Gravatar not 20 years ago... FOR 20 YEARS....

Ron Paul wrote that material.


Gravatar It was the evil Ron Paul... from Mirror, Mirror.


Gravatar I think ceabaird is on to something! There must have been some sort of time slip when they inverted the phaser array


Gravatar To me, whether he did or didn't write the letters doesn't matter. If he didn't *notice* them for 10 years, yet allowed his name and signature to be used *as if* they were his own words, that kind of slipshod judgment means he is not Chief Executive material.

I wouldn't mind seeing the Federal Reserve dismantled, and the value of a dollar revert from speculation-du-jour back to the value of gold. I think that's all going to have to happen anyway to restabilize our economy and transform the international monetary system into something resembling sanity. I think it will happen, and it doesn't depend on Ron Paul.

But I also think Social Security, the Department of Education and Medicare are fine and necessary, that whole "provide for the general welfare" part of the Constitution's preamble, dontcha know. So far, the pleasure I get from Ron Paul's candidacy is how crappy he makes the other Rs look when he's allowed to open his mouth on the same stage. That pleasure does not translate to passion, for me.

He's the right man to be doing what he's doing, and apparently he (and all of his followers) are supposed to learn something from facing what this TNR piece has unearthed. I hope everyone DOES learn something positive about leadership and the consequences of complacency here.

But he's not here to be President.

The question we should ask Ron Paul's supporters has nothing to do with racism. Rather, it's the question I was asked repeatedly in 2000:

"Why should I vote for someone who can't win?"

I know what my answer was in 2000, I still hold it high, and I bet most of the Paulites, especially those like Jake in comment #1, will have the same response.

And that response *matters.*

And so I bow: Namaste.


Gravatar Looks a lot like something put out by the John Birch Society.

On balance he is still by far the best Republican candidate running.


Gravatar To me, whether he did or didn't write the letters doesn't matter. If he didn't *notice* them for 10 years, yet allowed his name and signature to be used *as if* they were his own words, that kind of slipshod judgment means he is not Chief Executive material.

Nope, he is not.


Gravatar Ron Paul... same racist shit, different suit. Go back to "Zooville" where you belong.


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I wouldn't mind seeing the Federal Reserve dismantled, and the value of a dollar revert from speculation-du-jour back to the value of gold. I think that's all going to have to happen anyway to restabilize our economy and transform the international monetary system into something resembling sanity. I think it will happen, and it doesn't depend on Ron Paul.


I don't know much about economics but I do know this:

Gold is traded as a commodity, in the same way that people trade oil, dollars, stocks, etc. Furthermore, if the US returned to the gold standard people would trade gold as a substitute for trading dollars. Gold prices would be affected by the state of the US economy, oil prices and everything else that affects the price of the US dollar on world currency markets. If the dollar is a "speculation-du-jour", gold would be one too.


Gravatar Even this horrible scan of an early newsletter shows the hand of an editor and several drafts... it was typeset on a typewriter and pasted together, badly I might add, before it went to a printing press. Even mimeographs had to be adjusted for line length and proofed.

Ron Paul was a racist, it is as simple as that. Of course as a Republican he is with his own.


Gravatar SO what we are saying here is that at BEST paul is guilty of gross negligance and incompitance. Amazingly the paulbots are ok with that. Why am i not surpised.

cherish: if we whent to the old standared peole would jsut specualte on gold...oh wait they allready do that . Face it value of any item, be it a dollar or a dimond is abetrary, we just preforme a rather fancy barter system.


Gravatar Ron Paul, the Texan rascist former Rethug running as a Libertarian who lies. And I should vote for him why?

PS- Ganja goes for about the same price per ounce as gold. Maybe we should put our economy on the Marijuana Standard, then everyone could just chill out. Chilling out might be the best help for our world right now.


Gravatar In fact, I have always agreed with Martin Luther King, Jr. that we should only be concerned with the content of a person's character, not the color of their skin.

so what he truly meant to say is that given the inefficiency of the police there, 95% of everybody in Washington DC is a criminal, which means he needs to start naming names.


Gravatar PS- Ganja goes for about the same price per ounce as gold. Maybe we should put our economy on the Marijuana Standard, then everyone could just chill out. Chilling out might be the best help for our world right now.

Yes, preach it!


Gravatar US Blues: not going to work as ganja has a inharent value (as opposed to gold) makes it harder to speculate on.


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US Blues: not going to work as ganja has a inharent value (as opposed to gold) makes it harder to speculate on.
moonglum | 01.09.08 - 8:07 am


forgive my ignorance, but don't we already speculate on corn and wheat futures?

and oh - as for this ron paul guy. isn't there something up at neiwert about him taking money from stormfront?


Gravatar moonglum:

Buzzkill!


Gravatar Seriously, though, the idea of a ganja-backed currency, while highly unlikely, is not terribly impractical. I recall having read somewhere that the Canadian dollar is a commodities-backed currency, and while the "loonie" is not as worth as much as the Euro or the UK pound, it's pretty stable, from what I understand.


Gravatar Thanks for not letting this fade away - something this ugly needs a good dose of sunlight or it'll get swept under the rug ... & the stench will get nastier & nastier.

The first version of this story I saw claimed it "only" took him SIX YEARS to disclaim the newsletter - i.e., until someone found it & called him on it. Having the wholehearted support of David Duke just confirms what the Pauloids are so desperate not to see.

He's on record as stating that people have the right to discriminate on their own private property, regardless of how "repugnant" he thinks it is ... & he voted against renewal of the 1965 Civil Rights Act.

Do you see a trend here?

But hey, he opposes the war in Iraq & supports the Constitution, so it's all okay! Just remember to bring your blindfold & noseplugs along in November when you vote for this git.


Gravatar Pat Buchanan is a fan of Mr. Paul's - that is all the evidence I need.


Gravatar Loveandlight: better idea, print the money on ganja...that will drive up the value of hte dollar due to scarcity and help out our local framers due to an increase of munchies.


Gravatar Ceabird,

You suck for beating me to a "Mirror Mirror" reference! :D


Gravatar Moonglum,

LOVE the idea. SMOKE YOUR MONEY.


Gravatar "US Blues: not going to work as ganja has a inharent value (as opposed to gold) makes it harder to speculate on."

You'd have a built in scarcity because people would constantly be smoking it up :^).


Gravatar Also, having a ganji-backed currency means you can always grow more if you need more currency. (What? Don't you want a larger GNP?)

Preservation of currency might be a problem, however, since bored bureaucrats will tend to smoke it.


Gravatar Yeah, but then some idiot will get the idea of hoarding ganga and then spraying around paraquat in order to drive up the value of his currency.

It takes just one jerk to ruin it for everybody.


Gravatar Grumpy,

At least then our elected officials will smoke the dollar instead of wiping their asses with it like they do now.


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