Gravatar Waterboarding.
It's Torquemada-approved!

Still remember when it was revealed that CIA "interrogation" manuals & training being used in the Contra camps - & elsewhere throughout Central & South America - were directly taken from the Gestapo. If there were no angry mobs in the streets for THAT ... sigh.


Gravatar Jim, they weren't interrogation manuals. thats what makes this current stuff asinine. They SF manuals from the 80's were about techniques you might have to experience as a POW, they were to for SERE training. To prepare you for life as a POW. We specifically taught that that torture didn't work.


Gravatar Thank you Nancy Pelosi for taking impeachment off the table. There will not be even the slightest check on our "elected" dictators of the future.

And thank you UC-Berkley for retaining a professor that provided the legal reasoning to torture people.

If I have learned anything about this society it is that having and/or paying for sex is worse than torturing and killing. You couldn't ask for more honor and integrity.


Gravatar TLG, every article I could find about the interrogation manuals used in Central and South America states quite clearly that they were created by the CIA.

The ones identified are the original KUBARK Counterintelligence Interrogation manual from 1963 -- for use by US agents fighting "Soviet subversion" -- and its updated 1983 version, with the chillingly bland title "Human Resources Exploitation Training Manual".

I've looked at both documents, and they don't read like any field manual I've ever seen. They're clearly "how to set up and conduct interrogations' manuals, not primers on how "to prepare you for life as a POW".


Gravatar Oh, yeah: American Torture has a good collection of documents relating to the subject, from the Cold War to Gitmo and Abu Ghraib.


Gravatar Since congress absolved these "people"
with the Military Commission Act (MCA) of 2006, maybe its time we organize a petition to the ICC in the Hague requesting that they start a war crimes investigation. If I recall correctly,
the ICC won't investigate unless they are convinced that the Nation involved won't start its own investigation. The
MCA arguably proves this point.

President Obama should say we either investigate, or he will take seriously
extradition requests from those who will.


Gravatar The US Army's Field Interrogation Manual (I forget the FM number offhand, but it's online) states categorically that torture is a violation of international law, and - drum roll - it doesn't fucking work.

A commenter on another blog earlier this week speculated that if a full-bore masochist ever ended up at Gitmo he'd freak out the interrogators.


Gravatar An observation from my elderly mother:

"These people are getting OFF on torture. Look at their eyes when they talk. They're really perverts...."

BINGO! Remember, in Bush's world facts are irrelevant. It's all about him and his desires....

Eeeeeeuuuuuu!


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