I just snuck over to the GNB for a quick look while at work and am WOWED at the mental imagery you let loose here, LM.
Muchissimas gracias.
Mr. Obama is on a roll the likes of which I've not seen before either.
Spot on LM! To use an older term, Obama is in THE ZONE. He's got the message, the "Elvis," the campaign team, the DISCIPLINE (this is where Clinton's campaign has crashed--Mark Penn likes the limelight too much), and the energy, and he's rolling across the US in a wave we've not seen in generations (maybe in 1932).
And I think the MSM is missing a key issue: People are bone deep ANGRY about the war and the economy. My mom lives in rural PA and is about 3 democrats in a town of 500. Like you, I was raised at my mother's knee to LOATHE Nixon (she hung out the flag, full-staff when he died). All of her old buds, who adored Nixon & Reagan, have had it with the GOP. They've either become Democrats or Independents--they've HAD it with the GOP. Mom is leaning hard towards Obama (the Kennedy endorsement counts a lot in her book).
So, if the DNC is SMART, they need to get folks campaigning for November. Obama's going to the White House, he's going to need lots of friends in Congress.
I appreciate what you are saying, but I can't be the only one sick to death of sports metaphors applied to politics, though I do have an affection to, "sitting in the catbird seat", though that has less to do with Red Barber and the his sportscasting, and more with the wonderful James Thurbur story.
Not a prob, with the "misses", LM. :o)
I don't recall too many predictions that Obama would be able to go into conservative states and beat Hillary AND the repubs (something appropriate in that pairing...) like they were a brace of rented mules. :o)
Likewise, I didn't hear anyone sayin':
"This dude is going to singlehandedly WRECK the GOP's "safe south" shtick like he was the fucking "Predator" on that LA Subway train in the first sequel." :o)
And, my 2c, I've got $80 out, in $20 bets, to the effect that Bush and Cheyney will be forced from office before the election. BY the repubs. :o)
Been posting that, along with my belief that the day we nominate Obama, Condi's days as sec-state are numbered. When Obama starts doing to McCain what he's doing to Clinton, the entire bushCo house of bullshit will start collapsing, and Rice will hear the siren call of some corporate boardroom sinecure. :o)
If I'm wrong, I'll gladly eat that, but just now, I'm thinkin' I'm shittin' in pretty high cotton. :o)
I find myself hoping the Hypnobama will pull out such a lead on McCain that I can risk a protest vote.
Ironically, one of the things that bugs me about the Hypnobama is that he reminds me so much of Clinton--BILL Clinton. He's a glib, effective shill for the less-crazy wing of Korporate Amerika, just like Bill. [HRC is also a shill for the less-crazy wing of Korporate Amerika, just not so glib or effective as her hubby or the Hypnobama.]
The other thing that really bugs me is the dog-whistle sexism [see Shakesville for details].
Also, I simply loathe the idea of climbing aboard a bandwagon. I'm not a small-d democrat because I actually trust the alleged wisdom of the ovine masses; I simply support democracy because I agree with Churchill that "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others". Hence, the Hypnobama's popularity actually sounds a red alert in my mind, or at least a yellow alert, simply because it IS popularity.
tanbark...i do recall watching him debate keys a few years back...my republican friend (my groups tolken republian) turniogn to us, and with full honesty stateing "we are watching the next president".
Watched MJ hit the zone once...it was an amaing site, and he could seemingly do it on demand.
I hit it exactly once. I was a decient fencer, c ranked (A B C D E and U where the rankings) in my weapon..top 100 in the nation for a year. One match, taht was it...faced an olympian..the guy was damm good...watched him dessimate my team captin..got up their and just hit the zone..its hard to explain if you have nver expereinced it...tunle vision, tunlel hearing...every thign I did worked and it was like he was moving through molassess...bullet tiem comes very close to what its like.
spent years tryign to get back there..never did fidn the grove again 
man IWB i think you may need to get back on the meds...jsut a thaught.... 
yeah, i remember the zone. reggie against the knicks. i remember being there myself in combat. i would get the taste of copper in my mouth, i would hear the blood singing in my veins. sometimes it was like the world was a slow motion movie and i was at regular speed. it was an amazing space to inhabit. hard to stay there.
if obama's in the zone we can't fault hillary clinton for losing. nothing she does or doesn't do will make any difference. the last time i saw it was at a phoenix sun's game. they were playing minnesota last season and as we watched the wolves coming out of the tunnel to take the court for the third period i saw the look in KG's eyes. that look dude. it said that KG had decided all by himself that he was not losing again that night. and that there was jack shit anybody in the world could do about it. i turned to the person i was at the game with and said "we are fucking doomed tonight."
It's also called "flow."
http://www.amazon.com/Flow-Psych...03544413&sr=1-
1
Jimmy Johnson swears by this book.
Last night McCain went full-bore campaigning against Obama. Smart move. Obama's going to be the nominee, so start campaigning against him now.
And then ... then ... the pucker-faced loser adopted Hillary Clinton's strategy. "I'm more experienced than Obama." "All this 'hope' talk is bullshit." Why is he using Clinton's failed strategy? Is he that stupid, or is Obama basically untouchable?
This is 1996 all over again. A sour, bitter old Republican, crippled by war, will have his ass utterly placed into his hands as he looks on in astonishment. "Be scared. Continue the killing," he will say, and the electorate will reply, "Fuck off, you lemon-sucking fearmonger!"
If Obama wins a southern state or two -- and he probably will -- the Republican Party is going to be in deep, deep long-term peril. Can they survive without a Southern Strategy?
Poetry of the Real, LM.
Bravo.
Queequeg some of the best dirt diggers in the industry have been searching...all they got was "he bought a house for fair market value"...its rather pathetic....
The Clinton campaign has set up a website to, well, see for yourself... I am too disgusted
http://www.delegatehub.com/
Oh, and if that wasn't bad enough there is now a 527 set up to go after Obama in the upcoming primary states.
http://
marcambinder.theatlantic....ares_for_oh.php
Here is their filing: http://forms.irs.gov/politicalOr...05&
formType=E71
The guy filing it is Roger Salazar of http://www.acostasalazar.com/
Maybe somebody wants to send him an email or a 1000 and tell him what a they think of this tactic...I already sent my email from the "contact us" page.
If Obama wins a southern state or two -- and he probably will -- the Republican Party is going to be in deep, deep long-term peril. Can they survive without a Southern Strategy?
-Queequeg
I would say yes, in theory, only because they could have expanded their base beyond the right wing nuts but they along with McCain are so beholden to them and their party's political intellect is so atrophied that they can't move in the direction that would save them.
McCain could have been the right's Obama but he and they aren't smart or honest enough to admit their failures and arrest the hubristic tendencies that have made them so hated.
Some people think that Obama is weak. Given the stark contrasts between Obama and McCain I'm expecting Obama to gut McCain like a fucking fish.
The anticipation of seeing Obama take McCain apart on the issue of torture alone is almost too much.
There is a tide in the affairs of men. Which taken at the flood, leads on to fortune; Omitted, all the voyage of their life Is bound in shallows and in miseries
-Shakespeare (who else?) in Julius Caesar
Great post LM. I'm still mourning Edwards, but I think you're right on. This is a moment when the future floods in and overwhelms the present.
Let us pray that Obama recognizes the unique and ephemeral nature of this opportunity and uses it to enact major changes a la FDR as soon as he takes office. These open windows of opportunity don't come often, don't last long, and no one gets more than one.
The difference between great leaders and also-rans is not only whether or not they seize their time, but whether or not they realize that during their window none of the old rules apply.
One legendary sports figure who would get in the zone and will his team to a victory was Mark Messier. When he got that glint in his eye like the reflection of fire on a skate blade...look out!
LM, I think this unconscious post dovetails nicely with the "The Real Deal 2.0—Doin' It!" post.
“It's bigger than you.”
That's what Barack Obama's doing here.
And that's the danger in it. 'cause for every player, the winning streak will end somewhere. It sure is going to end as soon as he starts worrying. And what job comes with more reason to worry than the effing President of the United States?
Do you really want someone for CiC who just got into the position because of a lucky season of "unconciousness"? When the going gets tough, you'll need a reliable player, someone who maybe ain't got the magic, but who is hard working to bring the team ahead, no matter what.
Imho that person isn't Barak Obama.
the littlest gator, DelegateHub.com is a hoot! I would be more angry if it hadn't given me the best laugh of the day. They actually think this crap will work.
Not only that but if a delegate is "automatic" then why do they have to fight for them at all? Its automatic-ness implies that they are allocated through a process that wouldn't involve the campaigns no?
No wonder these geniuses are losing.
Gray "who just got into the position because of a lucky season of "unconciousness"?"
JUST nothing. I think LM's theory is a part of the story for sure, but you can't run a nationwide campaign on that alone. they have been smart, worked hard, they are well grounded and they have very good people working for them out there.
We are not just electing a candidate, we are electing a campaign to fight for us in the general. Which campaign do you honestly think is doing the best job? I think that is obvious at this point...
"Do you really want someone for CiC who just got into the position because of a lucky season of "unconciousness"? When the going gets tough, you'll need a reliable player, someone who maybe ain't got the magic, but who is hard working to bring the team ahead, no matter what."
"Imho that person isn't Barak Obama."
Gray
-Gray:
Iyho, who is that person?
"No wonder these geniuses are losing."
baltogeek
Baltogeek:
They are not geniuses!
They're SUPER GENIUSES!
(they've got their ACME playbooks and everything!)
"We are not just electing a candidate, we are electing a campaign to fight for us in the general."
Well, you know my opinion by now: It's just another bubble. Those hypes don't last. Look at Brittany.
:-/
Gray, for real dude seek help.
Admiral Komack, good old ACME. Must be on loan from Wile E. Coyote. That explains everything.
From the pitcher & the first sentance I knew this was another piece from the man from Lower Manhattan.
Poetry of the Real, LM.
Bravo.
cherish | 02.20.08 - 2:33 pm | #
word.
&
amen.
Queequeg some of the best dirt diggers in the industry have been searching...all they got was "he bought a house for fair market value"...its rather pathetic.
For sure, moonglum. I agree with you. What I was trying to say, and I probably used so many pronouns that it was unclear whom I was referring to is...
...to quote baltogeek, who said it best:
"I'm expecting Obama to gut McCain like a fucking fish."
Word. This is going to be so fun. I'm going to spend four years asking Republican relatives and colleagues how it feels to watch their candidate implode like McGovern in 1972 and Dukakis in 1988. I'll say: "C'mon, man ... let's talk about it at length. Let's dwell on how miserable you felt."
O the joy!
"Gray, for real dude seek help."
I did, but no other Clinton supporter wants to comment at this Obama infested blog!
:D
(hey, only joking, don't raise a ridiculous discussion about his)
FACT: Florida and Michigan should count, both in the interest of fundamental fairness and honoring the spirit of the Democrats' 50-state strategy.
LoL.
Politics is all about convenience and now the Clinton campaign has adopted a convenient line about a campaign strategy they never believed in.
I'm sorry Hillary supporters...after March 4th there is going to be a giant push for Hillary to concede. After that point there will be two big state prizes left in Pennsylvania and North Carolina, but for six weeks after March 11th there will be dead air. And the prospect for Obama to be dumping more money in time in a primary that will be throretically sewn up, will not wear well for the non-Clinton party establishment. Remember her hardcore supporters want jobs, they want power, they want influence, and the possibility becomes that they either tie themselves closer to Hillary than every before or just walk away and try to join HypnObama.
It's a gamble either way but enough will do it to make it definitive. It's over. Now is the time to defeat McSurge and no depend on him to defeat himself for us(though he will). He sounded like an old crotchety man speaking against change on the eve of revolution. "You young whippersnappers want change? Well you don't have the balls of my generation. We were real heroes while you just listen to iPods or whatever the hell those are."
Believe it or not but Hillary Clinton has used this same pander to degrade her daughter's generation and call them about of self-conceited losers that don't know what the word sacrifice means. These generational issues have really pushed Hillary down in the polls and will do the same things to John McCain in the general.
It's not just the super-old voting anymore.
Moonglum, I don't use meds. Those damned SSRIs will MAKE you homicidal and/or suicidal. [Phil Hartman's wife and Del Shannon and many others.] I think the SSRIs will prove to be psychiatry's equivalent of thalidomide.
The only danger I pose to people as I am is that I might bore them. I think it is best to keep it that way.
Queequeg asks:
If Obama wins a southern state or two -- and he probably will -- the Republican Party is going to be in deep, deep long-term peril. Can they survive without a Southern Strategy?
All the Republican Party has now is the tattered remnants of the Southern Strategy. And Huckabee is the logical outcome of that strategy. What the GOP faces now, even if the fall defeat is narrow, is the real danger that they're becoming a Southern-only regional party, much as the Democrats were reduced to being after 1896. The GOP has lost the Pacific Coast; the Northeast; most of the upper Midwest; and now they're hemhorraging in the Rockies (cf., Montana and Colorado).
Well, Goldwater warned them. Too bad they didn't listen.
Wow, anyone else watching MSNBC? Just came out that McCain has been sleeping with a female lobbyist. A bimbo eruption!
“Queequeg some of the best dirt diggers in the industry have been searching...all they got was "he bought a house for fair market value"...its rather pathetic....”
And having just gotten home, the breaking news is about a possible scandal between him and an leggy 40-year-old lobbyist?
Sweet shit! The knives are damn sure out. Ruh-roh!
Just saw it Kent as I arrived home five minutes ago.
W. T. F?????
Well put, LM.
As Thor Heyerdahl and minstrel said, in sports the zone can expand to cover a whole team. The same can be said for other collaborative, real-time activities. I've seen it happen first-hand in live performances, where one person somehow signals to the others "I've to decided to kick ass tonight; want to come along?" and suddenly everybody, on-stage and behind the scenes, cast and crew are fucking On. The. Ball. and in the zone.
It's amazing to be part of a team in that moment, operating at peak performance and competency. And the good news for liberals right now is that the same rule applies (stretched over time and more diffuse) to politics. It's about timing and inspirational leadership and honourable intentions:
"I know things look bad now, but I'm going to beat this Depression like a red-headed stepchild. Want to come along?"
"I know things look hopeless, but I'm going to stand tall against this monstrous dictatorship that's conquered a continent. Want to come along?"
"I know it seems impossible, but I'm going to start us rolling to get a man on the moon in a decade. Want to come along?"
That is the zone writ large. It doesn't last forever, and its gains are often rolled back. But when times are bad, it's exactly what's needed.
"Just came out that McCain has been sleeping with a female lobbyist."
Come now, that happened 8 years ago. In the great words of the late Henry Hyde (who was called out on his own middle-aged marital infidelities even as he was pushing for Bill Clinton's impeachment) I'm sure it was "a youthful indiscretion."
Besides, IOKIYAR.
The story is here.
Damn!
The NYT article talks about Senator McCain, the Keating Five scandal and the female lobbyist:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/2...anted=1&_r=2&
hp
I wonder who wanted this story put out there...and why.
I bet Mr. & Mrs. McCain are having a l-o-n-g talk...:-(
I also wonder if the media would want to give Senator Obama "equal time"
(translation: I wonder if the media are looking for dirt on Obama).
I sympathise with Ivory Bill. While I voted for Obama and think he's perhaps marginally better than Hillary/Billary.......... I'm really no part of this 'movement', which pretty much leaves me cold. Fun though it is to see the Clintons take a spectacular nosedive, I'm under no illusions that an Obama presidency is going to bring a lemon-fresh smell to that cesspit known as Washington D.C.
And, my 2c, I've got $80 out, in $20 bets, to the effect that Bush and Cheyney will be forced from office before the election. BY the repubs. :o) - tanbark
Giving up the crack pipe really is a difficult thing to do - isn't it???
W. T. F?????
Kumbaya motherfuckers. Bet that's the last time that use that hop-head to make a run at Michelle Obama.
What happens if McCain does feel compelled to withdraw because of this? I don't think that's likely, but what if? 
Good job, littlest gator; thanks for the links. On it. :o)
Brat: "he's going to need lots of friends in congress..."
He'll have 'em...his coattails are going to be MILES long. :o)
But we need to finish the job.
Send him $20. Every little bit helps. :o)
Oh, the sweet irony of it...Saint John the Course-Stayer, undone by the MSM poon posse!
Let it be so, Jaysus! :o)
"What happens if McCain does feel compelled to withdraw because of this? I don't think that's likely, but what if?"
Ivory Bill Woodpecker
-Say "HELLO" to the new Republican front-runner, Mike Huckabee (Do you believe in miracles?).
You want to see that famous McCain temper in public.. watch the next time a reporter asks about his being in bed with lobbyists. I mean really in bed... though you have to admit since he is a Republican shouldn't the lobbyist be a boy?
Gilly is laughing his ass off in heaven.
Komack, thanks for the link! I just posted it on a conservative site, with the "new thread" title:
"Woops! Bimbo eruption!"
Y'all think it'll get some hits?
:o)
"Do you believe in miracles?"
:o)
'Sooth! 'tis God's will! :o)
At the convention in Minneapolis, a rattlesnake in every briefcase...for quickie piety-attesting. :o)
"Shouldn't the lobbyist be a boy?"
Ahhh...it's good to be back. :o)
This might be long. But I think it fits.
19 fucking percent.
19 fucking percent.
That's Bush's new approval rating via ARG. 19 fucking percent. Statistical outlier? Outrageous? I thought so too. I'm not sure now. I really don't.
It's simple. People got a drink of leadership. The pure stuff. The GOOD stuff. The GREEN stuff. Obama brought it out of the bar in February, and poured a round for everybody. And by golly, I think people like it!
It's not a bubble, it's not a fad. Obama himself might be, but the movement, the moment is not a fad. It's nothing short of a generational shift, a turning of the corner. Such things never go quite as you plan, of course, but they never just go into the night either.
Reagan, of course in 80 was the last corner turned. And for 28 odd years, it's been a conservative world. Times are changing. It'll be a progressive world now.
19 fucking percent. The other side of the coin. 77 percent disapproval. Unbelievable. And all it took was someone to step up and grab the reins and ride for all they were worth. For someone to raise the bar. And quite frankly, Obama himself could be a disaster*. But the raising of the bar is worth it in and of itself.
*I highly suspect though, when push comes to shove that Obama would be a better president than Clinton, namely because Clinton's experience has made her cynical and myopic, and those are the traits that we're trying to get rid of. And that's why trying to fight Obama on experience isn't just a loser..it's a disaster. The experience IS the problem in the first place.
The final thing is. What's becoming more common, why more people are becoming involved, is that it's becoming ok to say..you know..things are just not the way they're supposed to be. They're just not. They're supposed to be better. Well, people are asking for better now.
her strength is the working class, well except for these folks now too I guess.
good post over on kos about the 527 crap
Michael had many of those moments, some of them lasted a whole game.
Kobe, too.
I SAW that game with Lebron, and his show. One of the best, evah. Grand!
Josh Beckett has pitched a few games like that in World Series and playoff spots. He's locked in, and buckles knees with a breaking ball after brushing back at 99mph. Knees, and hearts, all bucklin as the hitter sees it comin. Batter after batter. That's the zone, yep.
And Mr. Obama, he's in it, as you say.
Nice analogy. Spot on. LM you got it goin, too.
Damn, is it possible the revolutions already started? And we progressives can hope the center moves back LEFT of Attila The Hun and Hitler? In OUR lifetime?
I was there for JFK. I was 4th grade, but the adults were nuts. They would WEEP about his hope. And they wept for weeks, after that fateful November day, in Texas.
May Barack Obama, his visions, and his cabinit and VP choices be blessed, and we too.
I'm sick of Lucy pulllin the football away.
Here's to renewed hope. And yes, let's burn the mothuh down, and start new. Gonna need LAKES of brain bleach to rid us of our horrors we've dealt with.
But there's hope. *G*
Talk about great timing!
Right after the writer's strike:
TOP GUN II
John "Maverick" McCain and Vicki "Iceman" Iseman...together again!
This time they will thrill us with aerial acrobatics...inside a corporate jet!
"You can be my wingman!"
"You can be mine!"
RATED: WTF!
LoL at McCain's "youthful indiscretions".
If he actually did legislative favors for her *ahem* other favors, then he is toast.
McCain just became the candidate the conservatives not only just don't like...but HATE. They hate losers more than anything else.
What happens when the 'star' loses the zone. Really, this is what I find so utterly discouraging about the Obama hype. To me he's just another pol. Talented to be sure but....
His policies suck and he really has no use of the likes of the folks posting and commenting here.
Don't believe me?
We gonna find out.
And if he does fail to 'change' the D.C. world guess who will get the blame?
Nasty, tehhahist lovin' 'Progressives' that's who.
.
DocBop; aint got nuthin' to do with crack :o); just the fact that once the repubs start looking at the tsunami, and with their Hillary lifeboat sunk, they'll give fuck-all about bush's legacy, and he, and Darth, will become a lot more valuable to them as sacrificial pigs, than as statemen. :o)
BTW, I'll go you one better: the next preznint of these United States isn't going to be Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, or John McCain:
I think it's going to be Dick Lugar.
Rather temporarily. :o)
I am very very cynical, when a demagogue wins over a political apparatchik party insider.
Shiver me timbers not.
Get ready for the biggest disappointment of your lives with Obama, people.
(Crossing my fingers to hope against hope that I am wrong).
TOP GUN II
aka
"the Iseman Cometh"
We're all having fun here, and we SHOULD be; we've earned it, but Karmakin has put up the...core...post on here today, when he connects bush's drop to 19 FUCKING PERCENT (zzzzzzz! Praise Jaysus!) to the fact that people, just like me (who, prior to last night, had only seen snippets of Obama's speeches) are looking at him, and thinking:
"Goddammit, the man looks and sounds the way a president OUGHT to look and sound."
That's the mistake that so many of the people warning us about the "tough" campaign Obama will have, if he runs it out, or about how hard the GOP will hit him; don't consider: people are just plain fucking sick of bush and the GOP's bullshit and lies. And, of the beltway dems', too.
And Barack Obama is speaking eloquently and directly to them/us, and it's wonderful. I mean WONDERFUL!
I tells you, guys; if we can get Obama through March 4th with a majority of the delegates available, then, we are going to HAMMER the bastards this election. :o)
It's not rocket science. We may not all have "crap detectors" of the quality of Hemingway's, but we've all got one, and they're going off like fire-alarms for an ass of americans. :o)
We're gettin' back to tribal, some, and we're looking straight AT a good, young, chief, who is going to let us lead HIM some. I have NO fear about Barack's lapsing into bidness as usual if we clean house with him. He's going to be a great president. Take it to the bank. :o)
Karmakin: I need some "ammo" on a conservative blog; you got a link to the 19% stuff? :o)
here you go
http://americanresearchgroup.com...up.com/economy/
with pony... over on atrios too
http://atrios.blogspot.com/
"The mustard's off the hot dog now!" - Chick Hern
Here's some big wave zen...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s...h?
v=s0Pw7vKtqpo
Gray :-| Here's one for you from some "misogynist" I'm sure:
http://www.time.com/time/
politic...1714840,00.html
Wonderful post, LM. It IS a moment in time. A very welcome moment.
For anyone that still needs to ask what Obama has accomplished:
http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/
o...rack_obama.html
http://
tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo...ccomplished.php
Thanks, 'gator. :o)
I shouldn't be here, but posts like these are just to good not to weigh in on, thank you LM.
those who know me will be shocked, no doubt, but I have been in the zone when writing, sometimes, and I love it!
Okay, quick, note re: Sen. Obama: Grassroots Mom did a wonderful job of breaking down both candidates' bills last year: something I wanted to do, but got intimidated by the time...very, very good post: 'I Refuse to Buy into the Obama Hype':
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...2/807/36/
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tanbark - I didn't get to say thank you, and great to see you some posts back, so...pls consider it said!
tanbark:Thanks, but it's true really. What else has happened in the last few weeks or so that could possibly push Bush's approval so low and his disapproval so high?
It's what the progressive blogosphere has been saying for the last 6 fucking years. Contrast, Contrast, Contrast. That's the key, and that's what we're seeing. The contrast is striking.
Obama's own skills matter less than the fact that he can create a movement and change the status quo. Because once the status quo of the deadlock is broken, anything is possible. Things that were once thought to be politically impossible become new imperatives, and then 3rd rails.
In short, the future doesn't scare me at all, 'cos nothing's like before.
BTW. I didn't even support Obama before it became clear that the guy really could pull it off with his performance in Iowa.
Agreed, Karmakin has nailed it. When people have the chance to see and hear the "real deal", the current imposter in chief looks pathetic. This has occurred even amongst the most brain dead, remember Bu$h in recent times has typically pulled 25 to 33 percent so perhaps maybe 30 percent of this group may not be so totally out of it.
Regarding the "southern strategy", one can argue that it is already dead since for the first time in decades, the party that controls the house, is not the one that has the most seats in the South.
Do you really want someone for CiC who just got into the position because of a lucky season of "unconciousness"? When the going gets tough, you'll need a reliable player, someone who maybe ain't got the magic, but who is hard working to bring the team ahead, no matter what.
Gray, A Citizen and all the other "I don't believe what I'm seeing before my very eyes"¯ haters out there, you ain't following the Basketball analogy properly,
look only the best players get into the Zone, you think you get to be in the zone because you are lucky, no brothers you get into the zone because you are F**king good in the first place, the Zone is just where all that hard work and natural skill comes together in one magical moment and BANG, maybe the American dream isn't over.
DocBop; aint got nuthin' to do with crack :o); just the fact that once the repubs start looking at the tsunami, and with their Hillary lifeboat sunk, they'll give fuck-all about bush's legacy, and he, and Darth, will become a lot more valuable to them as sacrificial pigs, than as statemen. :o)
BTW, I'll go you one better: the next preznint of these United States isn't going to be Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, or John McCain:
I think it's going to be Dick Lugar.
Rather temporarily. :o)
tanbark
Like I said - giving up the crack pipe is a very hard thing to do. The more you hit it, the loonier and further out of touch with reality you get, and the more you deny the pipe as the source of your insanity.
Oh oh oh, with St. John McCain with a "Rudy" problem, and Hiliary tanking, the Zone is now even more intense.
Again, the Dems have a chance to beat the GOP like its 1932. I hope the folks at the state and local level are working hard (actually they are in my district--got flagged last night to help).
Stay tuned kids. We're in for one HELL of a ride.
And yeah, Steve G. would have LOVED this.
Well big dog just stated that hillary is done...its goign to be over very soon. then St Mccain will fall fast.
oh and i think all the suprisieng big wins for obama happend because EVERYONE (well every one except me) misunderstood what hillarys consituancy was. she had two, people that hand't hread obama yet and post menaposal white libera lwomen...well she is loseing group one every where that leaves here with a VERY small nitch. the 60 + year old white women who also happen ot be liberal is not a large voteign block.
DocBop; don't go anwhere. In a few months, I'll offer you a hit.:o)
It's some really good "shit". :o)
'Murkans are gonna love it. :o)
"TOP GUN II"
"aka"
"the Iseman Cometh"
preznit giv me turkee
-That's cold.
Karmakin; no biggie. I was an Edwards man, but he couldn't sink Hillary and the goopers the way Obama's been doing it.
I like John; good man, and he kicked open some doors for all of the candidates, I think.
But I'll like him even more, if about 10 days from now, he comes out for Obama. :o)
If Obama can run the table, I just don't want him to have a major brainfart and put Clinton in the second spot. She'll be almost as much a detriment to us there, as she would if she were at the top of the ticket.
Which is why I hope she starts to burn THAT particular bridge in the debate tonight, by beginning to use repub talking points on him.
"You GO, Hil! Don't take no librul shit!" :o)
Terri, grazie. Don't be a stranger.
:o)
And, speaking of LM's good post about bein' in a zone, I remember a long time ago, when Rick Barry, the year that the Golden State Warriors won it all, put up 55 against the hated Lakers, I believe it was.
His quote after the game:
"My hands felt thin."
If they'd had the three-point shot back then, Rick Barry would have owned a franchise in the NBA. :o)
Here's a nice clip (6 min) of Earl Monroe highlights set to Curtis Mayfield, James Brown, and one I didn't recognize, but which the YouTube commenters say is Jamiroquai's Virtual Insanity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O...h?
v=OkQrtrlQYpI
It's funny watching people have allergic reactions to being on the bandwagon. I hope they're figuring out that one of the signs that you're running a successful campaign is that it attracts people who aren't like each other.
Queequeg: And then ... then ... the pucker-faced loser adopted Hillary Clinton's strategy. "I'm more experienced than Obama." "All this 'hope' talk is bullshit."
The American people love optimism and hope, and John "Bush's third term" McCain is short on both.
Queequeg: If Obama wins a southern state or two -- and he probably will -- the Republican Party is going to be in deep, deep long-term peril. Can they survive without a Southern Strategy?
former Democratic Gov. Mark Warner will beat the crap out of the ReThug nominee for U.S. Senator in Virginia. I can easily see Virginia going for Obama (northern Virginia is practically a northern state).
tanbark: And, my 2c, I've got $80 out, in $20 bets, to the effect that Bush and Cheyney will be forced from office before the election. BY the repubs. :o)
sorry tanbark, you're going to be $80 poorer, the only way Cheney will involuntarily leave office is in a hearse
Obama/Edwards?
I'm not a hater, Baba. I am a realist.
I will still hold my nose and vote for the Hypnobama in November [possible exception below], but I won't be expecting a flying unicorn pony for doing so.
If the man would just own up to the dog-whistle sexism [see several posts at Shakesville for details] and tell the overzealous minority of his supporters who have done rude and even bullying things to mind their manners, I might not need to hold my nose so tightly. Maybe he'll do those things once he has the nomination in hand. [Of course, he'll still be a DLC shill, but so is HRC, so no difference there, and DLC is a lesser evil than GOP.]
Possible exception: If Obama does start clobbering the Elephascist nominee the way the optimists on this blog think he will do, so that I know Obama will carry my state anyway, I might be able to indulge in the luxury of a protest vote; I'm thinking McKinney. I've done that before; in 1996, I knew Bill Clinton would carry the Arkanshire anyway, so I voted for Nader. [However, I voted for Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004, when I thought it mattered.]
Obama might indeed win it all, but the people who think it'll be easy do not understand the situation. I hope Obama doesn't fall into the error of thinking it'll be easy.
Optimism and enthusiasm do not go together with membership in the reality-based community, folks.
I just thought of something--at least some of the Red Guard-wannabe rowdy minority among the Obama supporters might not be genuine Obama supporters; they could be Elephascist plants. That's just the kind of dirty trick the Elephascists would pull.
DocBop; don't go anwhere. In a few months, I'll offer you a hit.:o)
It's some really good "shit". :o)
'Murkans are gonna love it. :o)
tanbark
Two things in response:
First - I agree with you completely on this one point, in reference to the smoke you're blowing. It is "shit" - the question of quality (good or bad) is one that will finally be resolved between now and the day GWB slides out of the Oval Office under his own steam.
Second - The only thing I'm hanging around for where you're concerned boyo, is to see/hear you fart "I told you so" in your sleep as you claimed you were capable of last July. Hope you've got good A/V recording equipment at home.
Until then continue apace with the Nostradumbass predictions - either way you'll only be making a lot of noise and leaving a foul stench behind you.
Thank you, Drbopper. I wonder how loudly and sweetly our local bluebirds of happiness will chirp once the Elephascists and their Corporate Holodeck Media allies release the hunting falcons.
Thank you, Drbopper. I wonder how loudly and sweetly our local bluebirds of happiness will chirp once the Elephascists and their Corporate Holodeck Media allies release the hunting falcons.
Ivory Bill Woodpecker
Not very, IBW - not very...
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