Looks like I'll be busy cruising the "Intertubes". A PDF of all his writings would be quite a project, anybody thought of that?


Gravatar We don't even know what or where all of his writings are yet.

Like I said, if you know of some somewhere I didn't point at, please put the links in here along with a brief description.


Gravatar Steve Gilliard - the Thomas Paine of the internet era.

Apropos - if he had the political fire in him at a young age, I would have loved to see his comments as a child in 1975 after Ford told NYC to drop dead .


Gravatar Thanks for bringing Steve's older writings to light. I had no idea they existed.


Gravatar You forgot to mention his netslaves 10q series...amazing stuff..hell he was the main reason I read netslaves...those where some weird days.


Gravatar i didn't discover Steve's awesome writing until a few months before his untimely death. Thank you for providing such a comprehensive list! As a light-weight amateur military history buff, i found Steve's take on military matters brilliant and insightful.

I have some connections to ultra small co-op publishing companies, if there is a way to compile some of his work, i'd be glad to donate book design part. Anyone else interested in such a project?


Gravatar NewDeal (and everyone else)

Jen here.

FWIW, the very last thing I discussed with Gilly before he was unable to speak, was getting a pitch letter together RE the Colonial series.

The basic idea was that he was going to flesh it out and keep writing about Iraq until we either got out or miraculously converted Iraq into modern day thriving secular democracy with a Disneyland and free beer for everyone *snark*.

That was going to be his publishing debut.

Hopefully his estate will pursue this eventually, even if it is as a posthumous "told ya so, MFs" thing.

No, no specific plans yet.

And thanks Moonglum for remembering his 10Q series--I actually helped out a lot behind the scenes with that, as due to a totally bizarre set of circumstances, I was able to get a bound copy of the as-yet-unpublished audit of the SEC that was done on a lot of dotcom stocks...long story....


Gravatar I fetl the 10q was better then the colonialism series..but that may be bacuse it was a more imieiate series...it hit a lot closer to home (workign for a dotbomb those days.)


Gravatar Do not forget this article
http://stevegilliard.blogspot.co...r- indicted.html
Where he praises Mike Nifong and Nancy Grace in the Duke Rape hoax and portrays the innocent accused players as guilty and trying to make the case disappear. I wonder what Steve would say of the current lawsuits against Duke and Durham by the Duke Lacrosse players
The following quote is priceless as Nancy Grace is now a laughing stock over her behavior to the accused in the Duke Rape Hoax.

Because everytime one of the defense lawyers or some junior assclown conservative from Duke goes on her show, they get eaten alive.


Gravatar Paul,

He would say what he said all along--that just because those 3 were found not guilty doesn't mean that a) she wasn't raped and that b) they were innocent choir boys.

He would say a lot of other stuff also but this is a family show here. *smiles sweetly*


Gravatar

He would say what he said all along--that just because those 3 were found not guilty doesn't mean that a) she wasn't raped and that b) they were innocent choir boys.


Jen, They were declared innocent by the North Carolina Attorney General.
And not being "innocent choir boys" does not mean they should be falsely accused of rape.
Does your side (The Something happened that night crowd) have any evidence that the rape occurred other then Crystal's testimony?
A.G.'s Statement Dropping Duke Rape Case
We approached this case with the understanding that rape and sexual assault victims often have some inconsistencies in their accounts of a traumatic event. However, in this case, the inconsistencies were so significant and so contrary to the evidence that we have no credible evidence that an attack occurred in that house that night.

The prosecuting witness in this case responded to questions and offered information. She did want to move forward with the prosecution.

However, the contradictions in her many versions of what occurred and the conflicts between what she said occurred and other evidence, like photographs and phone records, could not be rectified.

Our investigation shows that:

The eyewitness identification procedures were faulty and unreliable. No DNA confirms the accuser's story. No other witness confirms her story. Other evidence contradicts her story. She contradicts herself.


Gravatar newdealfarmgrrrlll -

Thank you, but no.

The Gilliard family is working on publication eventually. GNB doesn't have copyright to the materials.

moonglum -

I didn't forget. I don't think the 10q series survived the hard drive crash. At least, I wasn't able to find them in the archives.

Perhaps they are in the Wayback Machine?

Maybe one of y'all OCD types can go hunting for them, and track them down. If you do, PLEASE let me know (send me an email in addition to posting the link in this thread) once you find them. It would be an enormous gift to the entire online community if someone finds a copy.

I'm not saying the current NetSlaves archives (not the Internet Archives) doesn't have a copy. I'm saying I don't know where it is, and it isn't prominently listed under Steve's name there.


Gravatar Paul,

I'm just paraphrasing what Gilly would have said. I'm not making any arguments for him or on his behalf. However, if you want to continue an argument with a dead guy, go right ahead.


Gravatar After Steve died last year, I went into a frenzy trying to restore as many of his past articles as possible. I suppose burying myself in this project was my own way of dealing with my grief.

I dug a lot of old stuff from old CD-ROMs and put it on ghostsites.com, but there's more work to do. I know that Steve's classic "How to Read a 10Q" series is intact (I actually have this on a drive), and one of my New Year's resolutions is to get back to the task of getting more of his Netslaves articles back online.

Unfortunately, some of Steve's legacy at Netslaves.com is permanently lost. In mid 2001 we migrated Netslaves.com to a site that didn't allow spidering, and according to Bill Lessard (who I ran Netslaves.com with), the developer who might still have this content on his hard drive refuses to cooperate.

No copies exist in the Internet Archive of Steve's very important post 9/11 writings. This is a tragedy but I suppose we all have to live with it.

But there's still a lot of Steve's work that I still have access to, and I'd like to share as much of it as I can with you this year.

Best,
Steve Baldwin
Former Editor, Netslaves.com
Keeper of the Netslaves Archive
http://www.ghostsites.com/netslaves/


Gravatar I loved The News Blog, and when I got my new computer this past October, Steve's sites were put right back into the favorites folder. I sometimes find myself browsing the archives, and remembering the first time I read his words.

He died too soon.


Gravatar Steve -

Thank you so much. We appreciate your dropping by. You're welcome anytime.

*smiles*


Gravatar Thanks, Jesse!

It's a privilege to be among folks who are carrying on Steve's fine work.

You might know that Steve and I didn't always agree back in the Netslaves.com days. In all honesty we were trying to build a site that someday might make money, and every time that Steve would "go for the jugular" I'd have a moment when I'd say, "Christ - if we keep pissing people off at this rate, we'll have more lawsuits than readers."

There was also the spellcheck issue, which I don't really blame on Steve but on our ridiculously unforgiving CMS, which inserted line-breaks where they didn't belong, and crushed words together where there should have been spaces. I'm still finding some errors in his copy that need to be cleaned up more than seven years after they were written. (Who said that technology ever made writing/editing easier?)

As you might also know, Netslaves.com imploded when I went away for a much-needed vacation, leaving Steve in control of the bulletin board. Without going into all the gory details, this was like leaving Iggy Pop in charge of a Harlen County PTA meeting.

In retrospect, all I can do is laugh about the whole Netslaves thing, but while it was happening it was a bit like being caught in a flash forest fire without an asbestos hoody.

FWIW Netslaves.com's destruction meant that Steve could free himself of having to write about crooked dotcom idiots, and tackle the real criminals that were (and are) ruining the planet. Steve's flight wasn't a long one, but it was true, and in a direction we can all follow.

I will always treasure Steve's words, and will do my part to preserve them.
But his real legacy is right here, in the people he inspired (myself included). He lives on in a very real way - in all of our words that we have not yet written.


Gravatar Hell of a thread Doc, hell of a way to end the year and start a new one, too.

Great surprise guests, good info, outstanding catalog details of Gilley's writings and musings.

A treat I'll thank GNB for. Thanks, folks.

Keep fighting on. It sure as shit ain't over yet.


Gravatar Good stuff Jesse. Thanks for the links.

Happy New Year to Group News Blog and Jen. We're having a big ham on New Year's Day and I can't help but recall Jen putting up beefcake pictures with a big ham covering the penis whenever Steve would get too fond of posting cheesecake on TNB. Good times.


Gravatar Actually, Steve, technology *can* make writing and editing a lot easier.

I don't use such software myself (I am a walking dictionary, thesaurus, and editor), but I have recommended WhiteSmoke's writing software to a lot of people, and so far they have all been pretty wowed by it:
http://www.whitesmoke.com/landin...?d=4&a=0& r=1587

A friend of mine just bought one of their programs, and he told me that they are on sale right now. Since at full price they tend to run about $110 to $250 per program (depending on whether you choose one that is specific to legal, medical, creative, general, or business writing or one that covers all those bases), the fact that they are on sale for 40-50% off right now is a pretty good deal. (I teach college English and I am hoping some of my students will get copies while they are on sale.)


Gravatar Oh, and I forgot to thank you, Jesse, for linking to Steve's earlier work. I had not been aware of it. I found Steve when I was still a regular visitor to smirkingchimp.com. His articles were often posted on the front page and I always enjoyed them.

When I followed an article to its source one day, I learned that he was in the hospital in serious condition--this was the earlier hospital stay, when he recovered. Once I found his News Blog, I never left. It was one of my first online stops every day, and except for DU, the only one where I ever posted comments once I left smirkingchimp.com. I was hooked not only by Steve's writing, but also by the quality of the comments posted by you, Lower Manhattanite, Hubris Sonic, Sarah, and many, many others.

I can't tell you how glad I am that you four are carrying on Steve's legacy like this.


Gravatar Talking about Steve's work, reminds me of quite a series about retreat. Retreat from Iraq and what a mess it would be.

I've tried to find it, to no avail.

He's the guy who excoriated anyone who hadn't bothered to look at a god damned map. Honey, I look at maps still.


Gravatar Paul,
I'm just paraphrasing what Gilly would have said. I'm not making any arguments for him or on his behalf. However, if you want to continue an argument with a dead guy, go right ahead. -Jen



*P-O-O-F* - Begone!!! Back to your aptly named home page Malkinite.


Gravatar Thank you for this; I found The News Blog a few years ago and always enjoyed it.

A Happy New year to all!


Gravatar tblue wrote:

>Actually, Steve, technology *can* make writing and editing a lot easier.

Actually, I agree. The problem we had back in 1998-2000 was that the "blogging"-style software that we take for granted today hadn't been widely deployed. If you wanted to run a site that was updated daily, you had to make due with what was out there, which in Netslaves.com's case was the CMS that our Webmaster hand-coded with PERL. (We didn't have $50K to spare for anything like Vignette that would let you preview/spellcheck/edit).

To address our critics, who called us "barbarians" for publishing sometimes out-of-spec articles, our viewpoint became defensive. Our response was that if you wanted erudite perfection, you were looking in the wrong place, and should bury yourself in the New Yorker. But if you wanted immediacy and passion, you got it in all its divine messiness.

It's sometimes hard to remember how hard it was to publish material back in the "bad old Web 1.0 era" and to keep it on point. Ir really sucked, actually.

Steve obliquely addressed this issue in an article entitled: "On Interactivity." See: http://www.disobey.com/ ghostsite...56,28318,.shtml

The money quote from Steve: "Netslaves is not a print magazine. We don't have the same rules for content. If you dislike a comment or a column, you are free to write your own.... What many readers still have not figured out is that the web is a substantially different medium than print, even though they look the same."

In other words, check your content assumptions at the door folks, because we're taking you on a different ride this time.

What's not obvious from the text is how much we were getting beaten on because we refused to "stick to the issues" of dotcom work. Steve refused to be bound by these restrictions, and consistently broadened the frame of the site.

FWIW, I'm amazed at how far publishing /composition tools have progressed in the past 10 years. Thank God that the pre-Blog publishing era is over!

I guess the more difficult question is whether our ability to form cogent thoughts has matched the advancements in the conveyance mechanisms!


Gravatar Many thanks, Jesse and all, for placing Steve's (surviving) works where we can savor 'em again for the very first time.

And thanks to Steve B. for checking in - I was a *major* Netslaves junkie back in the day (largely as a recovering non-techie dotbomb slave), and I followed Gilly from there (via a circuitous Internet route) to TNB.

As an aside, perhaps if the owners of NS woulda just booted Nimmo & Cheopys - and that dang Uncle Meat - things wouldn't have blown up so. --Just sayin'. [ducking...]

Wishing all the GNB (IR)Regulars a happy, healthy and peaceful New Year - and may 2008 be the year of true peace, justice and compassion for all. (And may the *true* "evildoers" get what is so richly coming to them.)


Gravatar Hilarious! A Malkinite attacking Gilly for an alleged error is like Hitler accusing Churchill of war crimes. Shall we remind you of her war against Jamil Hussein?

Go pull the two-by-four out of your goddess' eye before contemplating the speck in a dead man's, dude.


Gravatar Thank you for putting this primer up. Netslaves pretty much encapsulated everything that went on in my life. And then Steve wrote Class Is More Important Than Race (And Almost Everything Else) --- and I thought my God someone IS putting it out there.

I hope the post 9/11 writings are somewhere out there. They were of both comfort and sadness, much like all of his writings now.

>>As an aside, perhaps if the owners of NS woulda just booted Nimmo & Cheopys - and that dang Uncle Meat - things wouldn't have blown up so. --Just sayin'. [ducking...]

Oh man, Uncle Meat --- talk about a name from the past...


Gravatar Seiten Worshipper wrote:

>As an aside, perhaps if the owners of NS woulda just booted Nimmo & Cheopys - and that dang Uncle Meat - things wouldn't have blown up so. --Just sayin'. [ducking...]

I fear that we're now delving into Steve Gilliard 201 studies, but I'll say what's on my mind (and there's no need to duck).

While I was on vacation (which I'll never do again), Steve Gilliard banned both "Cheopys" (who for you neophytes was this much-hated, left-leaning, much-reviled personage who had made his fame on the F*cked Company site) and "Uncle Meat" (who was an ultra-right wing hero on FC). Neither of these guys, BTW, had the cojones to let anyone know their real names, whereas Steve never played kabuki games on Netslaves.com or anywhere else.

Anyway, Steve banned them both (I don't remember what happened to Kurt Nimmo) and all hell broke loose: their sympathizers defected, the site lost all its revenue, and we were finished as a business. Frankly, I wanted both of these guys reinstated, (because I didn't really relish losing everything I had built in a four year period), but I was over-ruled by Bill Lessard, who sided with Steve.

This is all ancient history now. The important thing is that Steve was able to transcend Netslaves.com and discover his real voice, and we're all the richer for it.


Gravatar Jesse, i kinda thought Steve's family would own the rights, but if they read this site, or family is in contact with anyone, i'm glad to donate my services to whomever has the legal right to and wants to put his writing into hard copy. (Don't have much money to donate to good causes or battles, so feel i can at least help where i have time, energy, and skills that are useful.)


Gravatar wow great thread and interesting hearing more of the netslaves back story.


Gravatar Thanks for this Jesse. Crooks and Liars had Steve's Fighting Liberal post up today and I read it and had a little cry. I didn't often comment here but Steve was a must stop daily.

So many things I read I wonder what Gilly would have thought and I'm grateful you guys keep his memory rockin' with this site.


Gravatar Let's face it. Steve is dead and he's still "kicking the shit out of stupidity".
Quote borrowed from another commenter on another site paying homage to Steve.


Gravatar Hmm.

Steve, "Cheopys" published his meatspace name several times on the NS site. I was in a position to verify the accuracy of this myself, and I did so.

Yeah, he wasn't wrapped too tight. But he certainly "had the cojones" to inform anyone and everyone who wanted to know, precisely who he was IRL.

BTW, THIS IS NOT A WISE IDEA. Anyone who thinks it is should read this piece: How to Lose Your Job on Your Own Time. And this one: US and UK have become "endemic" surveillance societies.

I use a pseudonym myself for some very damned good reasons.


Gravatar Dear Stormcrow,

In my view, whether you choose to use a pseudonym depends on whether you wish to be held accountable for the words that you write.

Steve Gilliard didn't need to use a pseudonym. This is one of the things that made him different.


Gravatar Steve didnt have a job. A lot of people have employers who dont want the attention. You should understand that Steve.


Gravatar Dear Mr. Sonic,

I do understand you, and am not making a global case against anonymity here. But to be frank with you, I am already slightly uncomfortable on this board having conversations with people who will not reveal who they are, even though the reasons for doing so may be highly legitimate.

Call it a case of PTBBS (Post-Traumatic Bulletin Board Syndrome), but I generally limit my online discussions to e-mail, wherein I have reasonable confidence that people have shown me their bona fides.

Put bluntly, going through the netslaves.com experience taught me that life is too short to spend with trolls, even interesting ones.

(And no, I am not even remotely suggesting that either you or or Mr. Strormcrow are trolls.)

Mama Mia - you can see why I don't like conversing in this way!

Steve Gilliard didn't mind it, however: in fact I think he enjoyed it, up to a point. Once that point was exceeded all you could do was stand back and try to hang onto something solid.

Best, steve b.


Gravatar newdealfarmgrrrlll -

It's a generous offer, and if Steve's family is interested, they're welcome to post here and say so.

By design, neither I, GNB Media (the holding company for Group News Blog), Jen (Steve's co-publisher, now retired from blogging, but who still comments on this site and in fact, has commented in the Gilly threads this weekend), or any of my colleagues here at GNB...

By design, none of us have any financial dealings or business relationships with the Gilliard family, or takes to them, forwards to them, or serves as intermediaries or communicators to them about business matters in any way.

The News Blog, and the rest of their business is their business, and while we love, honor and respect the Gilliard family, that's the way it needs to stay.

Cheers.

Seitan Worshiper, me & demkat620 (and anyone else I missed) -

You're so welcome.

It was a real treat putting it together. Took most of last night and much of the evening before, but oh, so worth it.

Wouldn't have taken so long, except for

a) the crying
b) the laughing
c) the nodding along
d) the reading, reading, and more reading
e) some of this shit was hard to find
f) did I mention all the reading?
g) but mostly, trying to do Gilly justice... how the hell do you do that in 10-12 hours?

I really appreciate y'all's approbation for this, my first hacking attempt at Gilly 101.

Happy New Year from Seattle, with 10 minutes to go (as I edit the post; one of the privileges of owning the site. *grins*)


Gravatar off topic

the last polling by the register is out in Iowa and has obama leading by a big ass margin.


Gravatar .. whether you choose to use a pseudonym depends on whether you wish to be held accountable for the words that you write ..

Accountable to whom??

Your boss, when you are writing on your own time and from your personal machine, completely off of the corporate network? The United States government? Somebody else's government? Do you think that any of these entities can be presumed to be trustworthy? Would you trust them?

That's what it boils down to these days. I handed you cautionary references on a plate. If you doubt the sources I cited, you can find confirmation from many others.

Read what's behind those links I cited or don't, that's your choice. But don't expect me to accept "accountability" as the bottom line, because I have read them. I have also digested the actual consequences which have befallen others who have exposed too much of their identities.

This isn't 1999.

For example, I don't know of ANY employers who do not prescreen job candidates by Google-searching their meatspace names these days. Anyone who still thinks Google-searching one's own name is vanity has not thought the consequences of this through. Hint: The same rationale is behind a business doing, or hiring done, penetration testing of their own infrastructure.

And if you don't think that it gets much, much dirtier than that, you haven't been keeping up with the uses sociopaths have for the personal data they can harvest from the Internet. Completely below the radar. I have, because that's part of what I do for a living.

If you want references to this, I can hand you dozens. It's a field of study that people on both sides of the law specialize in. Ever heard of "Johnny Long"? Look him up sometime, on Amazon.com.


Gravatar wow. late to the party, but very appreciative of all of this. Thank you for getting the ball rolling, Jesse.

much love to all,
Terri


Gravatar Steve was a great guy, his blog was always interesting, and there were some wonderful arguments there.


Gravatar *hugs Terri*


Gravatar Gilly was the only blog I had bookmarked in my Safari bookmarks bar for rapid access. The most amazing was his military history background vis a vis US imperial/colonialist machinations. Now that's the info that all Americans need to know. Gilly's grasp on US military/intelligence history echoes Ward Churchill's steadfast insistence that US history is, well, a Big Lie. Gilly gave the historical documentation of Chomsky's repeated reminders that a) it's all there in the public domain, and, b)that every president, including Carter, back to Eisenhower would be hanged for war crimes according to the Geneva Conventions. That public domain history, ignored by almost all, was Gilly's greatest contribution to an understanding of the dark and bloody history of this nation. Who's going to pick up that torch? Losing him takes us back many paces. Most bloggers are editorialists. And blah blah good or blah blah bad doesn't matter. It's just opinion. Gilly's dedication to history made him one of the few to speak with authority. Gilly blasted huge holes in the triumphalist myth of GodBlessAmerica and elevated understanding in all who read his work. A national treasure lost. Thanks mucho for the links. I was just poking around recently trying to locate some of the military history posts. Couldn't agree more that Gilly's work needs to be consolidated and preserved.


Gravatar As someone who keeps a blog of my ongoing art projects, my usual method of creating each new entry is this: I compose a rough draft off-line using Adobe GoLive (which provides HTML code automatically). After re-writing and editing until I'm personally satisfied, I generally upload it online.

I was wondering if Steve did a similar method when composing his blog entries. If so, there might be some rough drafts still on his old computer hard drive that you can retrieve if you have access to it. (Or can convince someone in his family to let you access it.)


Gravatar I would pay a reasonable price (to his estate, to a charity, to the Mets' fan club or as otherwise applicable) for a compendium of Steve's writings on disk or on dead tree paper.


Gravatar I'm a nobody from nowhere. I've been a steady reader of Gilly's from 2003. It's odd, because although I didn't know him, there's not a day that goes by that I don't think about him. He was a prince.


Gravatar God Bless Steve Gilliard. Reading Steve I felt like he was in a den schooling me and friends on what is right and how not to fall for bullshit. Nobody kicked ass with words better than he.


Gravatar Big thanks for that compilation, Jesse. These remembrances are welcome, though bittersweet.

In going back through Steve’s writings I was reminded of his special concern for soldiers and veterans, and his contempt for ‘yellow elephants’:

‘A bunch of vermin, otherwise known as Republican staffers, feel not a pang of guilt over living it up, while others die to make their fantasies come true. I'm sure if you asked these moral cowards about the price of freedom, they would spout some nonsense about supporting the troops. Sure, as long as they didn't have join them. Instead, they play at being rich and connected and other people die, every day, in the sandbox.'
(snip)
‘There's a reason we give to veterans groups in my [Steve’s] family. We know they get treated like shit, and the people quickest to do it are these same people. The ones who cheered them on, but wonder why that guy walks with a limp or has a missing arm or in a wheelchair and then goes right back to their plasma TV and blonde future pundit. They see no connection between their indulgence and the sacrifice they demand of others. No sense of shame or need for sacrifice.’
http://stevegilliard.blogspot.co...ab-in- back.html

Happy New Year to all of you at GNB, and thanks for carrying on Steve’s legacy.


Gravatar It would be quite worthwhile to rerun Steve's instructional posts on journalism. I remember one he did called How to Read a Newspaper where he pointed out that at least half the news stories are straight reproductions of press releases. Since then I have always read the news with an eye for what a story's source is and damned if he wasn't absolutlely right on this point.


Gravatar It would be quite worthwhile to rerun Steve's instructional posts on journalism.

rod -

The copyright on Gilly's material belongs to the Gilliard family.


Gravatar Steve Baldwin: I posted this on netslave back in the day, and I will restate it here again.


soemtimes handles are no anaonimity but identity. I have been psoting with the same name for over 20 years now. If you wnat my real name, you can fidn it but it is irrelivant. as THIS voice and THIS name go togetehr.


Odly my wife publishes useign her real name and every one she deals with (editors, other writers, ect) are convinced its a pen name...


As for teh netslaves days, i dorpe off teh face of the erath for a bit right when netslaves impolded (freelancer at teh tiem, wokring one week gigs, and things where damm busy).

It wasn't steves bannings (although chyperos and uncle meat whwere cancers that speed up the end). It was tme for it to end. the bubble was bursted, peopele woke up from teh new econamy BS. Netslaves ahd run its course...you had to either reinvent it (and rename it) which the community may not have survived, or let it die and move on. I loved netslaves, it was a daly reed for me, and i posted rather prolificly, but it was time, the site needed to evolve or die, and i don't think ther personalities involved in eitehr the managemnet or the commuinity would allwo it to evolve.


Gravatar I still miss him. He is a national treasure.
This post is a real public service. Thanks.


Gravatar Much respect to Steve and all his works.


Gravatar Thanks for the work putting together Steve's writings.

Fond memories...I feel old just thinking about how long ago stgill first posted on FCBoard.

Anonymously, MsThang & ZsaZsa


Gravatar The 10Q Series has been added to the above.


Gravatar The episode that I refer to most often is the uncovering of Michael Steele's adventures in Oreoland. I would love to see a step-by-step account of the episode.

Steele was not an implausible candidate, but if it went down the way I think it did, that Republican operatives planted a false-flag story in which Steele was the victim of Dems calling him an Uncle Tom, and the blogosphere forced disclosure of the truth, there was no way Steele was going to get any cross-over support.

That episode was a watershed in many ways.

The relationship of the modern Republicans and African Americans remains a potent subject. John McCain's recent poverty tour and shopping trip speaks to that; the pics of Grampers with the Gees Bend quilters and the photo of the check made me wonder if he seriously believes that rich people buying from the poor is a substitute for policies intended to put a floor under them and give them a hand up.


Gravatar Jesse, while the Movable Type archives for Daily Kos (5/26/2002-10/15/2003) are not searchable, there are new resources for finding Steve's writing there.

The dKosopedia now has three pages dedicated to Steve: the main Steve Gilliard page with an overview of his time on Daily Kos, which in turn has sub-pages on Steve's posts, with chronological links to every one of his 220 front-page posts, and Steve's comments, which has chronological links to the hundreds of comment threads Steve contributed to. At the present time, the comment links are only complete through April 18, 2003. It's going to take a while to find and add the remaining six months of comment thread links. There's also an automated search URL on the comments page that will find the 1200 comments Steve made on the current Daily Kos site between late 2003 and early 2007.

I'll let you decide how you want to modify your current Daily Kos paragraph to incorporate the above information; I expect it will make it much easier for people to find Steve's writing on Daily Kos.


Gravatar I forgot to mention: Anyone looking for posts about Steve on Daily Kos can start with the Steve Gilliard tag. Some of the posts will contain earlier iterations of the data now in the dKosopedia.


Gravatar sardonyx --

This is up. (I'm sorry it took me so long to get live.)

Thank you.

Thank you sardonyx SO much for the wonderful, amazing job you did. I an deeply appreciative.

The work you did in digging through archive after (dusty, er, electronic) archive... phenomenal freaking job.

You ROCK. You rock HARD.

If you're at Netroots ten days from now, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE come see me. I owe you a drink.

Best wishes,


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