Gravatar Amen.


Gravatar Each man kills the thing he loves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0...h? v=0TBuCNvVPI4


Gravatar circular firing squad writ small?

at least they only brought knives to a fistfight


Gravatar Great piece LM, right on point.


Gravatar dude. you rock. out. loud.


Gravatar I hope both Clinton and Obama supporters that reside in the OH-10 tomorrow go out and cast their vote for Dennis Kucinich.

Kucinich led the Democratic opposition to the 2002 Iraq AUMF and garnered a majority of Democrats to vote against that awful unConstitutional bill. He also recently introduced a highly privileged resolution in Congress that caused the entire body to actually debate the impeachment of Dick Cheney. The Republicans in their infinite wisdom actually thought that the threat of impeaching Dick Cheney WOULD HURT Democratic chances at re-election. With political calculus like this, a courageous stand like Rep. Kucinich's changes close victories into landslides.

I know there is a lot of hate against Kucinich fuelled by Kos and others, but there really are very few actual progressive voices at the federal level and Kucinich is one of the leading ones.

Sorry if this is OT, but there are a lot more races going on than Obama v. Clinton.


Gravatar Well, it may look bad now, but compared to prior internecine battles 2008 has been a walk in the park. Read up on how the Al Smith wing reacted to FDR in '32, or (God forbid) what happened to the Republicans when Taft shafted Teddy Roosevelt in 1912. That was some serious bad blood.

LM has good advice, of course, but this year the energy is high enough that it'll swamp whatever bad blood remains once the nominee is clear. Of that I'm sure.


Gravatar “Read up on how the Al Smith wing reacted to FDR in '32...”

Oh, hell yes! Yet another reason why I REPEATEDLY urge folks to read Robert Caro's seminal tome on politics and governmental power, The Power Broker, where the “shooting star/crash and burn” Smith run is painstakingly, and painfully in many ways laid out.

That...was a devastating and venom-filled run.

Religion-baiting, dirty tricks, and arm-twisting that makes Krav Maga look like fucking pitty-pat.


Gravatar LM:

The greatest game Earl Campbell may have ever played came for John Tyler High School in the Texas playoffs against unbeaten Conroe. In the fourth quarter, he carried the ball 9 times and threw a completed pass in an 80-yard drive. After the game, his #20 jersey was hanging in shreds from his body.

Here's what the opposing coach said:

"I thought Superman was white and wore a cape and a red and blue suit. I was wrong. He's black, wears number 20 and plays football for John Tyler High School." -- W.T. Stapler, Conroe football coach after Campbell led John Tyler to a 10-7 regional playoff against the Tigers in 1973.


Gravatar LM:

Precisely. Watching online Hillary-bots and Obamaniacs tear into each other isn't pretty -- and I understand if many of them are shocked, since they might be new to this.

But so far it hasn't been anything like as bad as it could have been, and it's good for the eventual nominee, no matter who he or she is.

Because no matter what the Dems throw at each other, it'll pale by comparison to what the GOP slime machine will dredge up/manufacture, come September.


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I'm not talkin' 'bout everybody standing around "Kum-ba-ya/We Are The World" style and singing the same pithy lyrics that in the end don't mean shit. Disagreement is some bomb-ass shit. If disagreement wasn't allowed, 99% of all blogs would shut down, leaving only those devoted to cat fanciers—and then they'd go to war over the merits of the tabby versus the calico and chew each other's heads off accordingly. Disagreement is part of the process—we write, we agree or disagree, you comment, and you agree or disagree. It's the "Wild West" Everybody's got a gun


LM, tell me hand on heart that you thing the actual election won't make this look like We Are The Worldť, there is a lot of truth to the argument that our candidate needs to be bloodied and not in a tussle with your brother on the couch bloodied, but a full on bar fight, when going to war against the Roves of the world who won't be content to distort, but will unleash the flames of racial hatred, or misogyny the Democratic party need PEOPLE who will if I may borrow the lyrics "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee" and brother it's not just the candidates who need this ability,

me thinks that this primary will end like the brothers on the couch, big brother gets small brother a cold compress, then the next day they beat the shit out of the school bully.

IMO people are coming to see where "bush" has led America and see that it's a dark place, they want out, even Republicans can see that, and the people who were in the bandwagon, the ones who "if there is justice on this earth" should spend the rest of their days in prison, you think they are going to go quietly into the dusk, no sir, in the words of Senator Clay Davis "Hell No............ "


Gravatar To add to LM's advice re. The Power Broker-you would also do well to read Caro's three volume (so far) biography of LBJ. THAT was when politics were naaaasty, and LBJ was nastier than all the rest combined.


Gravatar Got-DAMN, thanks for that video clip. That is the most bad-ass stiff-arm I've ever seen! Jesus Christ Almighty!


Gravatar LM, thanks for the reminder about the book. Was told that when the freeways in Long Island were being constructed, Caro got the engineers to build the overpasses low so that buses could not go through. He and his friends did not want the poor to even be able to visit the mansions and beaches unless they went by car which would be more expensive. Is this true ?


Gravatar Some blogs are giving the pubs all of the oppo research they need. for free. It's pissing me off.
I laughed too when I read that story.
Also, never bring a choke hold to a knife fight. hahaha


Gravatar *sigh* I hope the Greens nominate McKinney. Otherwise, I suppose I'll vote for the Democratic nominee--or more precisely, vote against the Elephascist nominee--because I can't stand Ego The Living Nader. :P


Gravatar "Tan" jersey, LM? Any UT fan will tell you it's burnt orange.

Best Earl Campbell story I ever heard was the one where he scored a touchdown in the end zone where the UT mascot, Bevo, was lying down. Bevo is a full-grown longhorn. For safety's sake, he is tranquiized during games.

Campbell scored his touchdown, but his momentum caused him to crash into Bevo, who was lying down beyond the end zone. Campbell got up immediately. Bevo was not upset in the least. The encounter was declared a tie.


Gravatar Darn it, should have read "tranquilized."


Gravatar I think thigns are magnified this year in the primary for two distinct and seprate erasons. you have for the first tiem a viable canadate that people actualy like that alone would brign out a lot of emotion to the primary. for the firstime in a primary you have a viable canadate that a lot of thier own party activly despises..that will bring otu a lot of venom. you combine those thigns and you have a very charged election.

mix that with an old grad eleiteist vs filthy masses clash and you can see where the fight is coemign from.


Gravatar Uh, both of them represent the DLC elite, folks. The DLC Establishment and the Corporate Holodeck Media have once again managed to keep any genuine progressives from having a chance of winning the nomination.

BTW, there's no Easter Bunny, either.


Gravatar Actually, it would help if Hillary Clinton would stop using campaign ads that are straight out of the repubs video cabinet, a la:

"Vote for me or the terrrists will eat your children."

Oh. And if Obama can, metaphorically speaking, give her a good stiff-arm in Texas today, it would go a good ways towards solving some of the "dis-unity" that is bothering her people so much. As they slur and innuendo their way to trying to plug the holes in their ship.


Gravatar Truthfully, from reading the article, both guys sounded like idiots. If it hadn't been Clinton vs Obama, it would have been ketchup vs. mustard on their hamburgers.


Gravatar umm tanbark the maks has fulyl coem off hillary...she not jsut running wit hteh republican paly book...she running the republican paly book. in texas today she has started to activly campaing for McCain. http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/ 200...ry3896372.shtml

Do i get to call her a DINO now jesse. can I fanly point out why no progressive should ever vote for her...that sittign on your hands would be better then voteign for hillary or McCain...hell at least McCain ahs the balls to put the R after his name, at least he isn't pretendign to be a democrat.


SHE IS ACTIVLY CAMPAINING FOR McCain, i think attackign her is officaly attackign the other side.


hey on the positive side, once again i am proven right...just have to wait and the scorpion will sting.


Gravatar tai lof two quotes

here is romny steping down.
"I want you to know, I've given this a lot of thought -- I'd forestall the launch of a national campaign and, frankly, I'd make it easier for Senator Clinton or Obama to win.

Frankly, in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign be a part of aiding a surrender to terror.
"

here is hillary near the end
"I think that I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002"

WOW ther eis a rather stark difference. on abandones their personal ambition for the greater good (well the greater good of thier party) the other, well ther other tares every thign down in one last fit of rage....if i can't win no democrat can type of attack....there is no greater good to clinton only personal ambition.


I am willing to admit when I am wrong, and I was wrong big tiem here, I have allways felt that the clintons where no better then the republicans. I was dead wrong, the republicnas are better then the clintons.


Gravatar "There is no Easter Bunny..."

Oh, I dunno, IvoryBill, I think that tonight, if Obama takes Texas and runs well in Ohio, he'll be in a good position to put the eggs in the basket, at Denver. If not before. :o)


Gravatar Moon, that's an excelling point!

Clinton, sucking up to McCain, while she disses Obama. :o) :o) :o)


Do democrats need anything else, to tell us how hard she'd go after her the republican warpimps?


Gravatar An interesting post about Obama from Marc Andreesen (inventor of the Netscape browser). He met with Obama about a year ago, before the PR blitz began. The takeaway:

"Smart, normal, curious, not radical, and post-Boomer."

Three points:

1) if a demonstrably smart guy like Marc Andreesen says you're smart, and defines why ("crisp, lucid, analytical, and clearly assimilates and synthesizes a very large amount of information"), buddy you're smart. That would be a nice change.

2) The post-Boomer thing: wouldn't it be great for liberals to finally get over the '60s and move on to a new political model for change? Especially as aging Boomers become more conservative and selfish.

3) From the blog:

"We asked him directly, how concerned should we be that you haven't had meaningful experience as an executive -- as a manager and leader of people?

He said, watch how I run my campaign -- you'll see my leadership skills in action."

We certainly have. And we've seen how the other candidate has managed her campaign and chosen her advisors.

Since it's down to Obama and Hillary on the Dem side, and both are "not radical" (and "smart"), the choice is clear. And after this evening, Hillary will have a choice of her own to make...

"WOW ther eis a rather stark difference. on abandones their personal ambition for the greater good (well the greater good of thier party) the other, well ther other tares every thign down in one last fit of rage....if i can't win no democrat can type of attack....there is no greater good to clinton only personal ambition."

This is one of the reasons I hope Obama rolls over her in Texas and Ohio today. After that, she'll have a public choice to make: do the right thing and put her campaign "on hold" so we can do some damage to the GOP; or stay in til August, play even dirtier and try to game the superdelegate system, meanwhile wasting resources that could be better put toward pummeling the real enemy. That's really what it comes down to today.

Based on her silly 3AM ad, her comments about McCain posted by moonglum, and her staff's furious backpedaling on Bill Clinton's earlier comments about today being make-or-break, it's clear to me that she's already made her decision privately. But by this time tomorrow, we'll know for sure whether vindictive and entitled Tracy Flick lives.


Gravatar the clinton game plane from here on out is rather clear, tank obama and beat mccain in 2012. much liek the last two game plans (don't lift a finger to help gore or kerry, tank hte dems and prep for a post bush run.)

the clintons only care about their own power, that should be very clear..hell it should have been very clear before today.


Gravatar Screw the politics - I just love me some Earl Campbell. Of course, he made it easy to read the offense when he was an Oiler - lessee, offense up, well, they're gonna hand it to Campbell. Of course, then they had to throw 4 or 5 guys at him to try to ride him down sometime before he crossed the endzone, which was always fun to watch - a mound of human flesh seeming to move on it's own...

Amazing that he suffered for so many years from panic disorder...


Gravatar Periwinkle,

The person is Robert Moses, not Robert Caro, who had the parkways in Long Island built with lower overpasses to prevent buses from carrying poor people to the beaches or suburbs. Caro is the author who wrote The Power Broker (which is a great book) describing Robert Moses' rise to power and his downfall.


Gravatar I just stumbled on this article in the UK Guardian. It's a paragraph from a piece by one of their reporters in Austin, Ewen MacAskill :o) :

"Despite the upbeat message from the Clinton team, the stresses inside her campaign were exposed yesterday. In an astonishing lapse of discipline, Penn (Mark Penn) sent an email to the Los Angeles Times at the weekend in response to a story being prepared about internal rows.
In it he claimed he "had no direct authority in the campaign" suggesting he is preparing the ground to avoid blame if she fails to secure the nomination. (:o)...my smileface...:o) )

Clinton's communications director, Howard Wolfson, sent another email to the paper saying Penn did have direct responsibility for strategy."

Here's the whole piece:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/ ...uselections2008

If Obama can win the nomination, there is going to be one HELL of a cover-your-own-ass situation going on with the Clintonistas. Talk about a day-glo neon turd on your resume'! :o)

But, nominating Obama just might trigger a bigger one, if, as I believe will happen, the GOP is looking at a 20-points-or-better-margin tsunami this November. :o)

Puhleeeeze, Jaysus! Let the sons and daughters of the Alamo (on BOTH sides!) make it happen. :o)


Gravatar This is without a doubt the LONGEST primary season in my memory—and I go back as far as 1968 with these....

Yep. FYI, I confirmed my recollection that LBJ made his famous speech pulling out of the race on March 31st, 1968. Of course, back then the California primary was still in June and RFK got killed after claiming his victory in it.


Gravatar Punkster, as a lifelong fan of the University of Oklahoma (back to the days of Steve Owens), I can tell you that I never feared a football opponent the way I did Campbell playing for the Texas Longhorns.

If you want to talk about a player who had the highest odds of scoring on the next snap, wherever the ball was on the field, my vote would be for Earl. Hate that damn burnt orange, but gotta give the man his props.

And I always felt sorry for him getting used up at Houston. If he'd played for a better team, he coulda scored a million points.


Gravatar Heh, looks like Tracy Flick, anticipating a less than stellar performance in Texas and Ohio, arrived early:

As voters in Ohio, Rhode Island, Vermont and Texas headed to the polls potentially to decide the Democratic nomination for the presidency, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Tuesday urged voters to settle in for a nomination fight that could roll on for months to come.

“You know this is a long process,” Mrs. Clinton told reporters Tuesday morning outside a polling place in Houston.


I'm sure the man Hillary said would be a better President than Obama will appreciate her draining yet more Democratic money and time while he spends the next 6 months sitting back and building his war chest.


Gravatar The stabbing story is a scam...Even if it was a small tipping point to a fratricidal feud,it is not the whole reason..just ask the Smothers Bros.


Gravatar So we'll get the smooth DLC shill who sings the praises of Ronald Antichrist Reagan, talks of making nice with the Elephascists, and mimics Elephascist talking points on Social Security instead of the clumsy, desperate DLC shill who mimics Elephascist talking points on "terrism".

I wish I had some realistic, practical way to move to a better country. Oh well, I turn 45 in May. It won't be THAT long before I go to a better plane of existence. Maybe this society will hold together long enough for me to die of old age before IT dies; at least I have no children to fear for.


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