Meanwhile, Armando thinks this is all wonderful for happening on a Friday, since people won't talk about it all weekend.
And then it will be forgotten, much like other last-ditch holdouts
Let's see how that works out for her.
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"Armando thinks this is all wonderful for happening on a Friday, since people won't talk about it all weekend."
For a guy who spends most of his time in the blogosphere, it's strange (but not surprising) that Armando still thinks the MSM still sets the tone here.
The only reason we won't talk about it all weekend is because we'll be making an extra special effort to talk about Hillary's shitty statements about RFK next week: again, and again, and again. Right up until June 5th.
In that spirit, I'll save the rest of my comments on the matter (already written) for LM's promised barn-burner on the topic. Thanks for posting this up, HS.
Well, here it is Saturday morning and this is what's being talked about on C-Span this morning. And the volume of anti-Hillary calls weighs heavily against the pro-Hillary calls.
Under The LobsterScope
ceabird,
From what I've heard about Hillary's McCain-like private tantrums, that subtitle dialogue is probably very accurate. 
I think your reading comprehension has failed you here, Hubris. She didn't say "middle of June" re: Kennedy, but re: her husband's nomination. Regardless, why is it suddenly stupid now and not back in March when she first said the exact same thing?
"Regardless, why is it suddenly stupid now and not back in March when she first said the exact same thing?"
It was stupid then, but it's outrageous now. RFK's brother is in hospital, Huckabee just blew his own assassination dog-whistle to the pit bulls at the NRA, and now, with Obama having things all but locked up, it smacks of scorched earth desperation.
But you're right, it was stupid then, and it's stupid (and desperate and disgusting) now. And no reasonable liberal or progressive would vote for someone like this ... right?
It's problematic that she said it BOTH in March and now again in May. Well, my attitude is she should stay in the race until its abundantly clear to EVERYONE that she's not fit to be president, much less the "first female president." The longer she stays in, the worse she looks. And I'm very sorry that I voted for her.
Out of touch, too imperious, and dangerously inflexible (Mark Penn is STILL advising the campaign--a man who was too lazy to learn the primary rules).
My question: Will this failed presidential bid so damage Clinton that her Senate seat is at risk?
Brat, her Senate seat should be-and will be-at risk. Does anyone think that Black and Latino (remember Cesar Chavez's fight and how much Latinos revere RFK) voters in New York, the city and state, forget these remarks?
Not to mention the millions like me who remember the grief, horror, and fear of 1968, 1963, and 1969 (Manson, Altamont, and other stuff). Hillary's remarks, especially said very close to the dates of very ugly events, is like tearing off the scar tissue of an ugly wound.
Hillary should GET OUT NOW. She should not even get the usual kind words that dropped out candidates get. No speaking at the convention, she shouldn't even get a seat at it. She'd be booed to the rafters anyway, so why even go there.
This is the product of pure undiluted obsession, in its natural state.
This is why no security manager in his right mind will hire a kid who has been convicted of criminal computer trespass. Kevin Mitnick was the archetype: in trouble with the law more or less continuously for fifteen solid years before he finally pushed things to the point where he got busted good and proper.
It's the same with politicians. Those who cannot control their obsessions, who are ruled by them instead of ruling them, have no business within a hundred yards of as much power as the President has.
Hillary needs to go. Now.
we also have this lovely piece of material from the clinton.com
site... A memo called Mission Accomplished- !
invoking Bush's lies in declaring mission accomplished years ago--
after which thousands of soldiers died. as some kind of comparison to
the political experts that
are saying that the math indicates that Obama is the nominee. I am
exhausted by all of this. And I think many others are too. It needs to
stop.
***************
MEMO: Mission Accomplished? Not so fast.
To: Interested Parties
From: Howard Wolfson, Communications Director
Date: Monday, May 19, 2008
Re: Mission Accomplished? Not so fast.
Senator Obama's plan to declare himself the Democratic nominee
tomorrow night in Iowa
(http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/
10184.html) is a slap in
the face to the millions of voters in the remaining primary states and
to Senator Clinton's 17 million supporters.
There is no scenario under the rules of the Democratic National
Committee by which Senator Obama will be able to claim the nomination
tomorrow night. He will not have 2210 delegates, the number needed
with Florida and Michigan included in the process, nor will he have
2025 delegates, the number needed to secure the nomination without
Florida and Michigan.
Premature victory laps and false declarations of victory are
unwarranted. Declaring mission accomplished does not make it so.
While Senator Obama inaccurately declares himself the nominee, Senator
Clinton will continue to work hard, campaigning for every vote in the
upcoming states and making the case that she will be the best nominee
to take on John McCain and be our next President.
Sorry Elayne, you and the rest of Hillaryland don't get to parse and spin this one.
She's finished.
I'm guessing she's on Prozac or some such--one of the side effects is that it tends to make your ear for appropriate speech and behavior go all tinny.
If she some way pulls out the nomination... it will be the end of the Democratic Party.
I don't think Prozac would explain this, Molly. This sort of thing is an extremely consistent behavior from Hillary.
This is her, not a chemical alteration.
It's same as with alcohol. As I have excellent cause to know. It doesn't create assholes or bullies or sadists. It just damps down their caution, that's all.
As I understand it, she was providing a rationale for staying in the race, and had already provided the example of her husband's experience in '92. So why refer to '68 (and the spectre of assassination) at all, if not for the obvious......'and you never know, something might happen and I'd be in a position to benefit'?
Sad.
I think her mental state is now a fair campaign issue. (Not for Barack; he still has to handle her with kid gloves, only now, the handling will have the tone of dealing with an invalid, but we can do it for him, and by God, we will!)
She's clearly unhinged at watching the nomination-entitlement disappear in front of her eyes.
I was in my own little state of shock last night, when I realized that when she drops out, I'm not at all sure i WANT her to endorse him.
Do I want the voters to see shots of them on the podium at Denver holding raised hands? My 2c, check with me later. Let's see if she thinks that OBAMA is due an apology. 
At this point ANY direct move on Obama's part toward conciliation with she and her supporters could be perceived as pandering to this candidate who thinks, and SAYS, that she needs to stay in, on the off chance that her opponent MIGHT be assassinated.
Hillary Clinton has already established herself as THE great American political whore; does Barack Obama need to join her on the street corner? And if he does, as one poster on Kos said:
"The republican commercials will write themselves."
What he needs to do is maintain a cool but-sadly-respectful distance, as if he were looking at a formerly loved family member who has acquired a penchant for squatting down; taking a shit; and then turning around and eating it.
The short of it: everytime she does something like this (and of course, this is the cake-taker) it means that he has that fewer fences to mend with her followers. Now, it is totally the reverse situation.
After yesterday's performance in Sioux Falls, her supporters should be day-glo red with shame, and they should be grovelling and genuflecting toward the Democratic National Committee.
Dean, Pelosi, Reid, Edwards, Gore, EVERY influential democrat, should be denouncing her statement essentially describing political assassination as the reason we need "to count every vote".
She might as well have said:
"I have to stay the course. After all, who am I to disenfranchise the NEXT american assassin? Let every bullet be counted."
Why should she stay in???
Qui bono?...BIG TIME???!!!
Clinton supporter Francine Torge, a retired educator from Durham, mentioned his assassination in her introduction of the senator on Monday.
"If you look back, some people have been comparing one of the other candidates to JFK, and he was a wonderful leader," she said. "He gave us a lot of hope. But he was assassinated, and Lyndon Baines Johnson actually did all of his work and got both the Republicans and Democrats to pass those measures." - from FirstRead 1/8/2008
Elayne - Because MOST people did not want to believe that this is part of her reasoning as to why she's more electable. MOST people did not want to recognize the fact of her behavior. Good people give MOST people the benefit of the doubt until that doubt is irrefutably, and most usually, shockingly smacking them in the face as sudden truth. Now here it is undeniably offered, not as an example of a long campaign, but as assassination itself as a reason to stay in the race. MOST good people choose to not see the ugly truth until they can no longer deny it.
The same is true of people who are calling what she said afterwards an "apology". It wasn't. It was a cya move with no admission or acknowledgement of real damage done to this country. To offer possible assassination as a reason to continue a campaign? Please.
She did not misspeak, missatate, fumble because of tiredness, or anything. She sees this as totally ligitimate reason to stay in the race and has said or implied so times over.
This sorta ends her graceful exit and anyone proposing to accord her anymore chances to do so can go shit in their hats.
:-| :-|
Her comment ought to be investigated as a death threat by the Secret Service. Because that's clearly her intent in saying it.
One simple fact illustrates how frazzled and just plain, nuts, are Hillary's thought processes:
If, God forbid, something should happen to Obama, does anyone here think that, after her statements yesterday, watching her seize the democratic nomination as a result, would do ANYTHING but tear the democratic party to shreds?
At rare moments of doubt as to whether or not democrats and americans could see through Hillary's republican tactics, I have asked myself if I could vote for her. I honestly did not know the answer...but by god, I do now.
And I suspect, so do a lot of other good democrats.
I don't see how she could get, be given or live with the nomination, should 'something' happen, having made yesterday's comment. The whole thing would reek. There would have to be a compromise candidate of some sort.
Bollox; I agree. She has closed the door on her chance to hold higher office.
And, it's not a lick amiss to talk about the level of personal courage and committment of Barack and Michelle Obama. :o)
Stormcrow, everyone has asshole-esque thoughts now and then, and --less commonly--expresses or acts on them. Prozac tends to dumb down that editor in your head that tells you to keep it to yourself.
If you assume she's taking it (or something similar), it would explain a lot.
Just saying.
I call bullshit on her non-apology apology. The "I'm sorry if you were offended" apology means "I'm not sorry that I said it. I'm just sorry that some hypersensitive touchy people heard it and got their shorts in a bunch."
May they be safe, for their family and for America.
Hillary's statement is stupid for two fundamental reasons:
1) We never make analogies to recent tragic historical events. 9/11, Hitler & the Nazis, RFK's assassination, all are OUT as potential analogies.
2) The reason RFK was in California in June of 1968 was that in 1968 the California primary was in June.
In this election cycle, the California primary was in February, and all the significant primaries are long over.
As is Hillary's campaign. She should get out now.
Molly; cool.
If she could have won the nomination, she could have asked Laura Bush to leave her walk-in drug closet in the white house, intact.
What he needs to do is maintain a cool but-sadly-respectful distance, as if he were looking at a formerly loved family member who has acquired a penchant for squatting down; taking a shit; and then turning around and eating it.
Now that is imagery I did not need on a sunny Saturday morn!
But yeah...I don't see how the Clintons can unshit the bed on this one.
I think she wants out.
I think a bunch of someones have pushed her to continue, past her own comfort zone and how she might want to handle it, for reasons of their own.
Perhaps she is in a bubble of her own, as well. She doesn't act like she doesn't have control over her message or her tactics or what she says. Yet more and more in her voice I hear the loss of enthusiasm.
If I were to try and characterize it, I think it means that her priorities have been made clear. She does good things, after she does whatever she needs to get elected. Now that her perception of what she needs to do once she is elected is so mis-aligned from what the people want, it is best for her to make her own decisions, speak out about it, if that is indeed what is going on.
If she were capable of speaking about the campaign at this point, honestly, I think she could retain some cred at some level.
At any point I don't think she's not wanted to hear she has a shot.
But extraordinary statements like this is a clear indication something is amiss in this proto-administration. That alone is reason enough to see her failure to gain the nomination as a ringing vindication of the Democratic process.
She stayed in long enough to answer our big questions.
That's the point, isn't it?
the claim that she and some of her defenders are making, that she was thinking of herself as RFK who was in second place in the 1968 democratic primary, is specious.
clinton's defense of her statement (which apparently she has made more than once) is that (a) rfk was in second place, (b) she's in second place, (d) rfk was assassinated, therefore, she should stay in the race because she, not obama, might be assassinated? really?
how stupid i must look to "politically-savvy" hillary clinton.
given any contextual twisting, there is simply no defense of such a horrific statement, and it shows an incredible lack of judgment that one has come to expect from the worst kind of politician
the only conclusion i can come to is that, ipso facto, clinton herself is the worst kind of politician and i wouldn't want to see her as dog catcher, let alone president.
that being said, i would vote for her over mccain because, where the idea of her prevailing brings vomit up into the back of my throat, the idea of a mccain presidency forces the vomit right up against the back of my front teeth.
it is more than disappointing that it is a woman, and a democrat no less, who is making like a crackpot. i have many policy disagreements with clinton but i still had respect for her. she has managed over the course of the last month or so to completely destroy that respect.
Hey tankbark and everybody else.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...9379/946/
521786
Read that, it's a diary by BooMan. He hits the nail right on the head.
They're saying what you're saying and I've been saying for a while. If Clinton's goal is to be #2. in case something happens, politically or otherwise to Obama, she's doing it wrong.
ALL wrong.
What she should have been doing is moved her campaign into a more low-key mode, maybe leak out any oppo research into the media, but at ALL costs, keep clean herself. Why? Because if it's seen like she's greasing the skids..at ALL.., she'll be pulled down with him.
She's ensured this at this point.
The biggest problem of all. This is Bush levels of fail. Where even things that we oppose, he couldn't do right in the first place. As the campaign goes, so does the administration.
I think that's the most important answer of all.
Pierce Nichols - Yes. I agree. Who knows what kind of insanity her continued insistance "he CANNOT win" and her other reference to "something might happen" are connected to. There have been many things she's inferred that made the needle go skittering across the record for me. Should check her phone records for calls from tanya harding at least. :-|
She had better hope nothing does happen now.
And this idea that she's on something. Could be. It makes sense. Her overly extra biiiig smile overly friendly show at the stou with Ted Kennedy made me go ewwww. This practically manic state of her and mcauliff just is off the wall.
Still, it doesn't negate the results of what she's done here. Not an excuse. Something is not right with this person though. Just not right. This enabling that's been going on has got to stop.
:-|
"Does anyone think that Black and Latino (remember Cesar Chavez's fight and how much Latinos revere RFK) voters in New York, the city and state, forget these remarks?"
Absolutely not. Even Gov. Patterson, cut from old school Black politician cloth and Hillary supporter said her remarks were desperate.
I commented before that after Bill in SC, and the MLK remarks, and the selective choice of states that counted, and and and... it was the "hard working Americans, white Americans" remarks, that guaranteed I would not vote for her. This time, I'm completely done.
There's no amount of party loyalty that would ever trump my own conscience. She has demonstrated on multiple occasion to be unworthy of my trust, my confidence in her judgement, and my vote.
Well put by Olbermann
Karma, thanks for the link. I got as far as "if something happens to Barack Obama she has a far better claim to the nomination than John Edwards..." or BooMan's words that were very close to that, and there I stopped.
After yesterday, if anything should happen to Obama, I believe she would have the right to a ball of shit, if she's a tumblebug.
She would have the right to grovel like a puppy who just took a big, runny, dump on the high-dollar persian rug in the middle of the democratic house. And then she would have the right to try to salvage something from her vicious stupidity, and immediately exit the race.
After her Sioux Falls statements, nominating her; Wait! TRYING to nominate her, would simply ruin the democratic party. I don't even like talking about it, but if she, or Booman, or anyone else, thinks that Obama's supporters would tolerate her capitalizing on some horrible act against Obama, after what she said, then they have badly misjudged the mind-set of the good democrats who have helped bring Obama to the verge of making history.
And, at this point, I just don't believe that Obama's friends and close staff would permit him to offer her the VP slot, if he WERE stupid enough to want to do it.
Their public reaction to her statments has been muted and low-key, along the lines of "inappropiate" and suchlike, but I guarantee you, that privately, they are seething with a level of anger at her that rivals Keith Olbermann's outrage.
Now, it will be an act of political courage (and one that I believe the voters will understand and appreciate) to NOT offer her a position, of ANY substance.
I bet Michelle would leave him, mid-campaign, if he took Hillary on as his veep candidate. And she damn-well should. :o)
One aspect of Hillary's campaign that has been front and center from before the primaries even started, has been the arrogance of she and her supporters. Reading the "off topic" posts at FDL (There is still no thread up there about this from any staff member) I'm astounded at the number of posters who are saying "no biggie", and, insanely, some of them are equating her statements yesterday with (why am I not surprised?) those of Jeremiah Wright's.
It'all very...bushian...there is simply no statement she can make; no line she can cross; no poverty of soul that she can exhibit; that will make HER 28 percenters say: "no mas!"
Their denial perfectly mirrors that of the diehard bush supporters, and there is a terrible, bloody-handed symmetry to that equivalence.
What's left to democrats now is to see just how fearful of her waning power and influence, are the party "leaders". How much longer will they, and the superdelegates, tolerate this kind of campaigning?
Now, she's a political abomination. She's become more of an embarrassment than a real leader, on the american political scene. She stands revealed as a desperate political chameleon; willing to do or say anything to avoid the fate the she has created for herself. I say flatly: Barack Obama did not do this to her; it has been self-inflicted, and for my 2c, the anger that her supporters feel and express toward Obama, disqualify them from any consideration of our "owing" them anything.
I say again; as of now, I don't WANT her to endorse Obama. Let that rest for a while, and we'll see how the ensuing month or so, after she leaves, shakes out.
But, she and her supporters should know, that by her statements and her tactics, she has not only squandered the democratic nomination; she's also thrown away a huge segment of her influence and power on the american political scene.
The political landscape is in flux, to the extent that this election is becoming unique.
We are very close to an equation in which, if Obama and the party that he is about to take over, utterly and unspinnably turn their backs on she and her..."traingulating", and the party hacks who STILL support her, that could bring him more support from independents and moderate republicans, than he would lose from her irrational and frustrated would-be coronators.
My 2c again; I'm about to the point that I'm willing to take that chance.
i for one have been literally wallowing around in the totally dellicious irony of it all.
here's senator clinton, explaining that she has to hang around in the race because, you know, shit happens, obama might fuck up monsterously, he might get shot (they shot bobby! it's a fact. they shot martin! it's a fact. american politicians have been getting their asses shot since hamilton. no brag, just fact.), and in so saying,
she. fucks. up.
it was a stupid, thoughtless thing to say. but, then, just like bush and the famous republican non-apologizers, she digs deeper while trying to wiggle and spin her way out of it.
she reminds me more of bush every day. the refusal to cop to the truth of a mistake or a failure of either judgement or morals. pure fucking bush.
At least Obama gets to pick his own VP without a lot of flack now. Everytime someone says "Unity ticket!", Clinton's vulture opportunism comment will come back up.
tanbark:Read the rest. It's actually agreeing with what you said. I guess it should be that she HAD the runner-up status locked up.
Now?
That's gone. And that's the point.
Karmakin, thanks, I will. That was no dig at you.
I'm just REAL pissed, right now.
Wengler; thassit...
"Unity ticket!"
Abe Lincoln and Jeff Davis.
The sad thing is that Hillary's got me so desensitized to the idiocy that she spews on a daily basis that I'm not even surprised anymore.
I just shrugged when I saw the video.
I thought she or someone with her campaign would have outright called Obama a nigger by now.
She's not on schedule.
This is just the logical progress of all the tone-deaf racialized bullshit she's been peddling for months now.
Bill and Hill still have their headquarters in Harlem. Maybe they should call up the Irsay family and ask for tips on how to sneak out of town in the middle of the night because it's not going to be a happy homecoming.
I'm glad Pierce Nichols saw this for exactly what it truly is.
Considering the crap Clintons have said about Obama and all the appeals to the worst racists in the US - basically "I am here to defend Whites from these uppity N..." -, what she just said can only be interpreted one way: she just begged every racist fucker in America to go out and get rid of Obama.
And she's totally batshit-crazy to say such a thing. She can possibly hope to survive - not politically, but physically - to Obama. If he ends up dead, she's clearly next, considering the big numbers of Obama supporters and all the bad feelings there's been between both campaigns.
This madness has to end now...
Ruining two political careers -- maybe. After all, Bill's is technically, formally over, and his worry is about Legacy. One day his administration will be judged (IMHO) as not too bad, really, and his work this year will be largely forgotten, not harming his standing as much as John Quincy Adams improved his own standings by his work in the House.
Mrs. Clinton's story is another thing entirely, and a sad one.
Me too. To be honest. I just wanted to make sure you read it, as it really confirms a lot of what we're saying.
To be honest, you just don't do this. On any scale. If you're competing against someone for a promotion or something, you don't even contemplate them getting into an accident. That shouldn't even cross your mind, it's disrespectful to them, and more importantly..and sadly, it's disrespectful to yourself.
This is off that scale, to be honest. It's past pathetic.
The rationale for her running was gone as long as she's gone almost entirely negative...back after SC maybe, after Super Thursday for sure. That's all that's left. Is maybe I can be President. To do what? Doesn't matter. I just want the title.
Even Sen. Clinton can have a good end to her story, if she returns to the Senate and becomes as effective as one of New York's previous senators, Robert Wagner. Heck, she can certainly look to Ted Kennedy as an example, as he is one of the greatest senators in recent history.
But no higher office for her. Her campaign was a miserably organized, financially mismanaged one. Her statements at this point suggest that the acquisition of office is something that she would do anything for. In the past, this country would not tolerate such people in the job. These days, not so much (two of the last three occupants of the Oval Office were of the "anything goes" school of campaigning; the third was a palate-cleanser).
At least now, we'll be spared the "Dream Ticket." That is now only a late-night comedian's dream ("The President and Vice President had lunch today, along with the President's Secret Service detail, a Delta Force squadron, and the President's food taster).
Pseudo-apologies are deadly effective way of making a bad situation worse. Every political organization needs to know the warning signs and cut out the fake apoligies mercilessly.
Namely, "I'm sorry if".
The Democrats are the one bunch of politicians who must might have the brains and conscience to do something about it. So, here's my proposal for Howard Dean and his successors. When people start announcing themselves as candidates, they must all gather and recite as a mantra the best thing any Republican ever said since Lincoln:
When I make a mistake, it's a beaut!
[Fiorello Laguardia, hardly a real Republican, being from New York]
Maybe then they'll know what to say when they've fucked up. The nation will be a better place.
I think that Hillary has even nuked her "Teddy Kennedy" option now. Unless I wasn't paying enough attention, I don't think the rivalry between Carter and Teddy ever became that personally nasty and unhinged. People were able to forgive him after the election, especially since he had, and was able to extend a record of doing good works for people. In addition, Teddy has had a reputation for being a kind, amiable sort even if a bit of a party boy in his younger days. Hillary is Nixon in a pantsuit, not very well liked by her peers.
And that's another thing I'm wondering this afternoon. Has Hillary gone insane? What sane person, let alone someone running for President, lets such vicious, heartless, and nasty words cross her lips. Those words bringing nothing but heartache to those who remember that killing. Especially since the 40th anniversary of his murder is less than 3 weeks away.
Time doesn't really matter all that much when it comes to this either. Even a century and a half later, when all of the people alive when he was assassinated have passed away, people do not talk about Lincoln's lightly or callously.
McKinley's killing has faded in popular memory (1901), but still does anyone bring that up lightly either without horror even when its covered in a history book?
Hillary needs a truckload of medication, a rubber room, and years of therapy. But her enablers say she's tired, not insane, or blame Obama people and everyone else for being outraged. That excuse doesn't convince me. I know about being tired. I worked 3rd shift for year Even on my worst day, coming home and trying to sleep while the sun rose, I would never have said anything so evil and callous to anyone.
And if she was so tired that stuff like this comes out of her mouth, she has an option: QUIT. Go home and back to the Senate.
My wish for Seantor Clinton is a long vacation at a remote monastic spa, with lots of warm mud baths, hot-rock massage, saunas, jacuzzis, sleep, no telephones or radios, and a Six. Month. Vow. Of. Silence.
Cherish, ditto. But lock her in it.
Cherish, Carol - Yes. I agree.
In the meantime, I'm done being sad... for now. I got all focused and followed TLG's lead. Time to act. arianna also has it right.
Its time for the supers to stand up. Its time for us to prod them with the white hot anger expressed so perfectly by keitho. I've written to three undeclared in my state. There's no reason NOT to act now. Here's the list:
http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/...t-
endorsed.html
I put the AZ contacts up so click me if you want them.
She's not going to end it, so its time to send her on her way in no uncertain terms. *waving smudge stick*
hillary, hillary, hillary...you couldve had the leaders seat in the senater...you couldve had the governor's seat in ny...you couldve run an above board campaign and if unable to win, held your head high...instead, you have taken up the mantle of the very people who have worked tirelessly to destroy you and your husband and besmirch the legacy of his presidency...and in doing so, you have destroyed your future political career...bitch aint the new black...its just the bitch
"I thought she or someone with her campaign would have outright called Obama a nigger by now."
I'm expecting McCain to cross that boundary any day now: "It was a perfectly acceptable word, an honorable word, before the liberal fascists of the Politically Correct Movement forced decent, hardworking people (as my collegue Senator Clinton so rightly calls them) to stop using it!!!"
"Hillary is Nixon in a pantsuit."
Probably the most accurately succinct description of the woman I've ever come across!
Ok, reading the speculation regarding Hillary's motives, I've seen people wondering if she's gone nuts, if she's just tired and sick of the whole campaign by this point, if it was the drugs talking, etc. etc. I think it's something a lot simpler than that:
One of the non-wingnut books about the Clintons back in the day (I forget which one) had a quote about them that I always liked. It went something along these lines: "In Arkansas, there are 2 types of people: The Money and the Dirt. As the Clintons saw it, they got their votes from the Dirt, but always considered themselves to be part of the Money."
What we're seeing here, in short, is a member in good standing of America's Ruling Class not getting something she considers to be nothing more than her just right and due...and she doesn't much like it, and is reacting accordingly. As Carol says just above, "Hillary is Nixon in a pantsuit". Doesn't that just say it all? The Clintons have always been rat-fuckers. Bill was able to hide it behind an affable personality. Hillary doesn't really have that option. This is pure, selfish personal ambition on display, as well as Entitlement Issues that could rival George W. Bush's. And a willingness to destroy if they don't get their way. It really is that simple.
I'm expecting McCain to cross that boundary any day now: "It was a perfectly acceptable word, an honorable word, before the liberal fascists of the Politically Correct Movement forced decent, hardworking people (as my collegue Senator Clinton so rightly calls them) to stop using it!!!"
Of course, he'll preface that with 'My friends'...............
And, LM; you were worth waiting for.
:o)
"Hillary is Nixon in a pantsuit."
Probably the most accurately succinct description of the woman I've ever come across!
Nah. More like Joe Lieberman in a pantsuit.
/snark.
Smartpatrol:
"Joe Lieberman in a pantsuit."
OWWWWW! That stings (*GRIN!*)
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