Can somebody offer Hillary Clinton the Governor's job to entice her to drop out of the presidential race?
Is there ANY way in hell a Republican would resign over this? I think not- it's another IOKIYAR moment.
I also think criminalizing prostitution is foolish.
It will be slightly harder for Spitzer to find a nice cushy job as a rainmaker in a corporate law firm than it is for most disgraced pols.
Sorry to have to ask, but Spitzer IS a democrat, right?
(I have not found one link on Google that answers that question.)
Yes-he's a Democrat and a Clinton superdelegate. Whether resignation allows him to remain so is unknown to me.
1. Well, he hasn't resigned just yet.
2. Frantically, desperately waiting for LM's or any other NYC natives perspective on this one.
Why should he resign?
Can't he have the tearful apology, and then get on with his life, just like everyone else who's ever been caught with a hooker?
Hubris, what's your source on the resignation?
The only source saying that he will resign I've heard of is FOX news.
If Spitzer resigns, David Paterson, the Lieutenant Governor, becomes Governor, making him NY's 1st African American governor. How's that for a harbinger of things to come? Paterson is also a Clinton supporter, BTW.
Can't he have the tearful apology, and then get on with his life, just like everyone else who's ever been caught with a hooker?
My 2 cents. He has to resign because:
a) He positioned himself as a moral crusader who was going to reform government. He's mortally wounded by the hypocrisy of this. If there is to be reform in NY he has to go.
b) This guys is not some average joe john who gets caught. He's a governor caught in a federal prostitution case. There's no way the feds are going to ease up. How much can the man get done with that hanging over his head?
c) Everyday he stays in office is another day the GOP can hit the party over the head with some moral crap. Now you and I both know that's bullshit but why go through that when you don't have to.
Jude, because he himself has prosecuted and put people behind bars for doing the very same thing.
Caveat: Just so long as we don't find out Bush's DOJ was trolling for him, the way they did in Alabama with Gov Siegelman. Too many political appointees playing games in this administration.
Aviva032:
This whole thing was based on info gleaned from wiretaps...
he himself has prosecuted and put people behind bars for doing the very same thing.
He has? I thought he was involved with labor-racketeering cases as a DA, and with prosecuting Wall Street abuses as an AG.
can someone please explain to me the double standard of why we are getting posts like this,
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...6719/197/
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where people are calling for civility and that Obama supporters shouldn't start smearing Hillary for her connection to Spitzer?
Where the hell have these kinds of posts been while Hillary has been calling Obama every name in the god damn book?
He hasn't resigned.
I never understood why prostitution is illegal. All other forms of prostitution not involving sex are legal(see Chris Matthews, Tim Russert).
I like Spitzer, and this is frakin' ridiculous. He doesn't get to decide which laws he likes and which ones he don't however. I just don't see where politicians have the time to be having sex with all these women. C'mon go home and have sex with your wives for once.
I'm so disappointed. I was hoping for another Republican sex scandal. Ho hum. Everyone already knows Democrats have sex.
"This whole thing was based on info gleaned from wiretaps..."
Doubtless a result of the Bush Admin.'s warrantless, wiretap activities.......
Anyway, Spitzer has to go. Can't very well sit around with a federal indictment hanging over your head.......... especially if you're supposed to be a 'crime fighter'. With his apology to family and friends, he's pretty much admitted to it.
As a NYer - and someone who actually *voted* for Spitzer (sigh), and perhaps too-optimistically believed he'd "clean up" our one-horse capitol - and who looked forward to a new day dawning without a R gov, this is a HUGE shock and disappointment.
And yeah, agreeing with those upthread who said he's gotta go, PRECISELY b/c he ran on such a crusading platform.
And, jeez...can't ANY of these guys keep it in their pants and stop thinking with their flies for a change?? You'd think they'd have learned from the downfall of their fellows. SMH
PS This may make things a bit more comfy for Joe Bruno (state Sen. Maj. Leader, who may be the subject of an investigation or 2, himself).
BTW, why are federal resources being wasted on prostitution rings when we got bigger fish to fry. Unless the women are being trafficked, this stinks of the Bush administration's anti-sex policies. And I wouldn't be surprised if some Republican bigwigs in the same prostitution ring weren't even revealed because the US attorney only wants to prosecute Democrats.
PPS What Watertiger said:
http://www.dependablerenegade.co...t-the-
fuck.html
Seitan Worshiper, just how freaking corrupt is the NY gov and legislature?
I mean most states houses are corrupt as hell but all I've heard of all day is a laundry list of high placed people involved in one investigation or another.
It sounds like the really big deal is not the prostitution, but the Mann Act violation.
nice to see how these "warratless wiretaps" are only being used to find Al Qaieda.
Jude, according to the NYT:
"As attorney general, he also had prosecuted at least two prostitution rings as head of the state’s organized crime task force."
............. plus his wife is quite the looker, so he must be off his rocker!
He will have to resign because he's built his career as a law enforcer. And as stupid as the laws against prostitution are, they are the law at the moment. I like Spitzer, but he isn't some random private citizen.
The good news is that, in the unlikely case Bush's creatures used domestic wiretaps improperly in this case, Spitzer is going to go after him tooth and nail, and won't rest until he's sitting in a cold cell. You don't fuck with Spitzer (hookers, on the other hand...) 
First Jimmy Wales (not prostitutes, just a Fatal Attraction type nutbar), now Spitzer. A lot of very smart high profile guys thinking with their dicks these days.
Jude, according to the NYT:
"As attorney general, he also had prosecuted at least two prostitution rings as head of the state’s organized crime task force."
Aviva032
-He was working undercover.
Bloomberg will run for this for sure in the next round...
"NBC's Tim Russert raised the Farrakhan issue at the debate last week, asking Obama: "Do you accept the support of Louis Farrakhan?"
"OBAMA: You know, I have been very clear in my denunciation of Minister Farrakhan's anti-Semitic comments. I think that they are unacceptable and reprehensible. I did not solicit this support. He expressed pride in an African-American who seems to be bringing the country together. I obviously can't censor him, but it is not support that I sought. And we're not doing anything, I assure you, formally or informally with Minister Farrakhan."
"RUSSERT: Do you reject his support?"
"OBAMA: Well, Tim, you know, I can't say to somebody that he can't say that he thinks I'm a good guy. (Laughter.) ... I have been very clear in my denunciations of him and his past statements, and I think that indicates to the American people what my stance is on those comments."
"Hillary Clinton tried to draw a distinction between how she and Obama handled reprehensible, unsolicited support."
"CLINTON: .. I'm just saying that you asked specifically if he would reject it. And there's a difference between denouncing and rejecting... I just think, we've got to be even stronger..."
"OBAMA: Tim, I have to say I don't see a difference between denouncing and rejecting. There's no formal offer of help from Minister Farrakhan that would involve me rejecting it. But if the word "reject" Senator Clinton feels is stronger than the word "denounce," then I'm happy to concede the point, and I would reject and denounce."
Obama-Farrakhan: Guilt by Disassociation
By George E Curry, NNPA Columnist
March 10, 2008
-I got this article from the Louisiana Weekly
Gee, I wonder if Hillary will "reject and denounce" Spitzer?
hWc is more tied to spitzer then obama was to farrakahn...so why hasn't she renunced and rejected him yet?
Great minds think alike, moonglum.
Seitan--tell me about it.
Apparently, he was IN some of the fleeping wiretaps.
Asshole. Horrible.
And apparently the girls got $5.5 K an HOUR.
FIVE GRAND AN HOUR.
I don't think the human body-or bodies--can EVER do enough to/for ANYONE to warrant that kind of money. There are not enough orifices/extrusions in the human body of any and all genders to warrant that.
If I won the lottery tomorrow and it was legal, I would NOT spend $5K/hour for (let's say) wild hot sex with Dolph Lundgren and several of his twin bros, even if they were tireless, had tongues normally associated with certain Madagascar chameleons, and were endowed like draft ponies. And made a great Hot Toddy. And fed me sushi and wiped me down with nice, hot minty towels between escapades. And...and...hmmm...maybe if I talked em down to $4K an hour for three or four of em at ONCE...but I digress...
..no more chance of a President Spitzer...meh...
And Obama til Denver,
I sure HOPE that Spitzer grabs a few Rethugs by the nuts on his way down. It would make him a local anti-hero.
He will land on his feet doing crim defense work at some white shoe firm. Just watch.
Sorry for the triple post, but Hubris, you forgot to add "stupid motherfucker" to the tag list.
alright, go take a cold shower Jen... 
Dolph Lundgren, eh?
He's gotta be a little on the Schwarzeneggaresque, flappy man-boobs side by now, right?
Unless part of that $4K's gonna go for a ride in the time machine back to 1984 or so, you can do better.
Them was some high class hookers.
Jude, a few years back, he put 18 people in jail for being part of a...quel horreur!...prostitution ring.
:o)
I mean, as far we KNOW, for example, Jimmy Swaggart wasn't PAYING to pork his church organist. :o)
(If that makes any difference...:o) )
Not that I know of such things but sometimes the cost is a part of the umm high. And if you look at the pictures from the website, this was some mighty nice umm... what word am I thinking of... dime a dance romance?
"And Obama til Denver,"
"I sure HOPE that Spitzer grabs a few Rethugs by the nuts on his way down. It would make him a local anti-hero."
"He will land on his feet doing crim defense work at some white shoe firm. Just watch."
Jen
-Spitzer needs to resign and shut the hell up.
There's an old line about the money you pay a prostitute not being for the services, but for her to leave quietly at the close of said business and remain quiet about it after.
In which case, Spitzer's investment was not good.
5.5 grand/hr? Damn....
Now I'm curious what makes a girl worth that much.
Is it because they're flat out gorgeous?
Is it because they have mind-bending technical abilities?
Or is it both?
Spitzer is stupid and it's hard to defend stupid. If you read the criminal complaint (at TPM), he obviously used the call girl service before and was planning on using it in the future. It's his belief that he thought he could get away with it that bothers me along with his hypocrisy.
"5.5 grand/hr? Damn...."
"Now I'm curious what makes a girl worth that much."
"Is it because they're flat out gorgeous?
Is it because they have mind-bending technical abilities?
Or is it both?"
Kent
-She could be a cunning linguist.
Again not having ever played in that league... but having played with pros... it is a matter of fantasy and fulfillment. You definitely get what you pay for...
I have often said what someone above said, you pay for them to quietly and discretely leave not for the sex. Spitzer got caught from wiretaps and email surveillance not from the escort or service not upholding their side of the deal.
The FBI was the responsible party in this... I am so glad they are busy protecting us from rich guys and working girls instead of breaking up terrorist rings inside the United State. Sure must be easier working on a high level call girl ring than busting meth labs.
oi vey.
sigh.
just because the R'ugs are wet-suited hypocritics doesn't mean 'we' need to be, so resignation seems like the right thing to do...
now awaiting Hillary's denouncement..tick...tick...tick
HB,
Thanks for the tag fix.
:D
>...you pay for them to quietly and discretely leave not for the sex.<
What does that mean, exactly. That the more inexpensive the hooker, the more inclined she will be to holler good-byes to you as she's heading out the door?
kent it has too be a combination...go to any large city you will find thusands of girls that are drop dead gorgiuous (new yourk and LA espicaly, they are concentrated there)....gorgious girls are cheap....go to LA you can find thousands of girls woh are technicaly execlent...nope you gotta have both...and then something more...probably have to be smate, well educated, well spoken as well.
For $5.5K an hour I want the ENTIRE CAST of Cirque de Soleil's "Zoomanity." I can sort em out once they all show up.
Sheesh.
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